Kosh and Talia Winters

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-26 03:18pm

In that episode where Kosh hired that vicar, what did he record, do we ever find out what it was?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-26 03:22pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:In that episode where Kosh hired that vicar, what did he record, do we ever find out what it was?

No, we don't ever get a definete answer as far as I know.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-01-26 04:21pm

Short answer:

He recorded Talia

Plot reason for this: JMS originally intended for this recording of Talia to be used on Lyta in order to give Lyta her doomsday powers. However, he opted just to explain as Vorlon enhancement since that fit in with the whole "telepaths as weapons" plot.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-26 05:06pm

Though it could also be tied in some obscure way to her dormant personality....his looking into her.....what she really was doing with the Psi Core etc....

Though thats just speculation as to an answer.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-01-26 06:18pm

"Reflection, surprise, terror... For the future."

Coalition · Post by **Coalition** » 2003-01-27 03:08am

Possible option:

Kosh saw the hidden personality, and decided he didn't like it. So he recorded:

Reflection: A copy of her mind at that moment.

Surprise: A weapon to knock the other personality back for a moment

Terror: The killing blow against the alternate personality.

So after te alternate personality is destroyed, Kosh reloads the original Talia. Sort of restoring from backup. <G>

Rathark · Post by **Rathark** » 2003-01-27 07:32am

Which race created the Vikkers? They look humanoid, but they seem to be extremely advanced by EA standards.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-01-27 07:39am

His Divine Shadow wrote:In that episode where Kosh hired that vicar, what did he record, do we ever find out what it was?

It was one of her most unpleasant memories. She had once scanned the mind of a serial killer, and what she had found there terrified her. Kosh wanted to have that image to use against her if she became a problem. Alas, Andrea Thompson left the show, so that little incident proved pretty irrelevant in the long run.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-27 07:50am

Damn, too bad she left, cause now that I am seeing the show again on DVD, she's really hot

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-27 07:59am

Patrick Degan wrote:"Reflection, surprise, terror... For the future."

In typical Vorlon fashion ... that's not an answer.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-27 08:01am

Vympel wrote:In typical Vorlon fashion ... that's not an answer.

Would it have sounded better if he said "I got you by the proverbial balls bitch, you're mine now"

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-27 08:06am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Vympel wrote:In typical Vorlon fashion ... that's not an answer.
Would it have sounded better if he said "I got you by the proverbial balls bitch, you're mine now"

But why say something clear when you can speak in fortune cookie?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-27 08:07am

Stormbringer wrote:But why say something clear when you can speak in fortune cookie?

You will find happiness with a new love

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-27 11:36am

He recorded reflection, surprise, and terror so that they could use those during the Shadow War.

Viccers appear to be from any of several races. To me, they just seemed like cyborgs.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-01-27 03:14pm

Vympel wrote:
Patrick Degan wrote:"Reflection, surprise, terror... For the future."
In typical Vorlon fashion ... that's not an answer.

But it is. It is just that you do not understand the question.

Brian Young · Post by **Brian Young** » 2003-01-28 06:42pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:Damn, too bad she left, cause now that I am seeing the show again on DVD, she's really hot

You didn't notice that the first time around???
You can still see her on one of the news channels. She is a regular anchor.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-01-28 11:02pm

Brian Young wrote: You can still see her on one of the news channels. She is a regular anchor.

I thought she'd already quit CNN, too.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-01-28 11:34pm

Wasn't she on NYPD blue? Whaaaa...?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-28 11:37pm

I will never understand why people think she's so hot. She's got a hatchet face so she looks bitchy, and she was a bitch in B5. Moreover, she must have developed quite an ego in real life too, judging from her infamous "unless you've been living in a cave" debut on network news. None of this makes her more appealing IMHO.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-01-29 12:03am

Crown wrote:Wasn't she on NYPD blue? Whaaaa...?

Yes. Three years as Det. 2G Jill Kirkendall.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2003-01-29 12:08am

Darth Wong wrote:I will never understand why people think she's so hot. She's got a hatchet face so she looks bitchy, and she was a bitch in B5. Moreover, she must have developed quite an ego in real life too, judging from her infamous "unless you've been living in a cave" debut on network news. None of this makes her more appealing IMHO.

She's OK, but not much more than that. Andrea Thompson doesn't really hold a candle to Claudia Christian and isn't anywhere near as cute as Kim Delaney. The cigarette voice is a bit of a turnoff as well.

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2003-01-29 01:28am

i liked Lyta better myself. Maybe its because i like redheads.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-29 02:33am

Darth Wong wrote:I will never understand why people think she's so hot. She's got a hatchet face so she looks bitchy, and she was a bitch in B5

I have no idea what a hatchet face is, but I thought she looked hot nevertheless.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-01-29 09:49am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I will never understand why people think she's so hot. She's got a hatchet face so she looks bitchy, and she was a bitch in B5
I have no idea what a hatchet face is, but I thought she looked hot nevertheless.

I was never thrilled by her looks, and her acting was downright bad, at least in B5.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-29 10:32am

Darth Wong wrote:I will never understand why people think she's so hot. She's got a hatchet face so she looks bitchy, and she was a bitch in B5. Moreover, she must have developed quite an ego in real life too, judging from her infamous "unless you've been living in a cave" debut on network news. None of this makes her more appealing IMHO.

Even Garibaldi agreed with them. He wanted to show her his favorite thing in the universe, and followed her around for the heck of it. She even had to hit him in the solar plexus when they were on a lift together.

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