Protoss Zealot vs Jedi

[Shrykull]

I'd go with the Zealot on this one, since he has a "protoss plasma shield" (Um, wouldn't having plasma that close to your body burn you?) Unless the Jedi's telekinesis works through the shield, and I don't think it can otherwise Obi Wan and Qui-gon would have used it to disable the destroyer droids in Ep 1) the Zealot can take like 2 tank bombardments before the next one will kill him. Also, what about dark templar vs Jedi, they have weaker shields and are cloaked, do Jedi have any way of detecting cloaked things via the force?

[ArmorPierce]

Has been done repeatedly. I won't make my opinion known cause if I do it in the first page people will always see it and remember it is I said something stupid.

[Keevan_Colton]

This seems more like "Other Sci-fi" material....

[IRG CommandoJoe]

I'd go with the Zealot on this one, since he has a "protoss plasma shield" (Um, wouldn't having plasma that close to your body burn you?) Unless the Jedi's telekinesis works through the shield, and I don't think it can otherwise Obi Wan and Qui-gon would have used it to disable the destroyer droids in Ep 1) the Zealot can take like 2 tank bombardments before the next one will kill him. Also, what about dark templar vs Jedi, they have weaker shields and are cloaked, do Jedi have any way of detecting cloaked things via the force?

First off, this should be moved to Other Sci-Fi.
Secondly, if the Jedi kept his lightsaber on the shield long enough, the shield should fail and then the Jedi would destroy the Zealot. A Jedi shouldn't have too much trouble keeping the lightsaber on the shield while dodging attacks from the blades. I think they couldn't try this method of attack on the Droidekas because their lightsaber wouldn't be able to block the blasters. But a Zealot only has those blades, so it shouldn't be too hard for a Jedi to dodge them.
Third, if the cloaked unit is living, the Jedi can sense it.

EDIT: The last point is partially true. The Jedi could sense it if the life form is felt in the Force. And we can't tell if Protoss is a species like the Vong (immune to the Force) or a "regular" species (not immune to the Force).

[Sea Skimmer]

[1]Wrong forum
[2] We've done this five or six times before
[3] The Jedi would most likely win due to longer weapons reach, and having the force. Zealots don't have much of anything in the way of psi to counter with.

[Shrykull]

[1]Wrong forum
[2] We've done this five or six times before
[3] The Jedi would most likely win due to longer weapons reach, and having the force. Zealots don't have much of anything in the way of psi to counter with.

Yes, but the shield is very strong if it can withstand a few artillery bombardments from tanks, and if they could use telekinesis through an energy shield (the jedi) they why didn't OW and QGJ use it against the destroyer droids in TPM and continue cutting through the door?

[Mr Bean]

why didn't OW and QGJ use it against the destroyer droids in TPM and continue cutting through the door?

Because shoving them over won't work, they need a few good seconds of light-sabering and one other thing is the fact the Destroyers have fast firing blasters which are on bendable mounts so even if shoved over they can still shoot at you and you can't saber BOTH Drodikas AND deflect their shots

6 Targets, 2 Lightsabers

[Ghost Rider]

1. Done before.
2. No game mechanics in a debate...or we'll go on about how Jedis can withstand Turbolaser shots.(using Starcraft game mechanics is not really a good thing)

[SAMAS]

[1]Wrong forum
[[3] The Jedi would most likely win due to longer weapons reach...

Actually, A Lightsaber isn't that much longer than a Zealot's Psi Blades, if at all. You have to take into consideration the size difference between a Zealot and a human.

[Specialist]

Has already been done but would have been more interesting if you include Archons.
How a Jedi will be able to keep his lightsabre on a Zealot shield. Just from the Zealot's raw strength any Jedi would be dead if they made one wrong move.

I've already proven from the 5 movies so far ligthsabres can't penerate shields and it's possible the force won't able to either.

[Sea Skimmer]

[1]Wrong forum
[[3] The Jedi would most likely win due to longer weapons reach...

Actually, A Lightsaber isn't that much longer than a Zealot's Psi Blades, if at all. You have to take into consideration the size difference between a Zealot and a human.

Even if overall reach was equal, a Jedi could be hitting the Zealot's arms when all the Zealot could do was hit the saber blade.

[SAMAS]

[1]Wrong forum
[[3] The Jedi would most likely win due to longer weapons reach...

Actually, A Lightsaber isn't that much longer than a Zealot's Psi Blades, if at all. You have to take into consideration the size difference between a Zealot and a human.

Even if overall reach was equal, a Jedi could be hitting the Zealot's arms when all the Zealot could do was hit the saber blade.

And the other Psi-blade goes to hit the Jedi. Remember, Zealots have two of them.

[Sea Skimmer]

Actually, A Lightsaber isn't that much longer than a Zealot's Psi Blades, if at all. You have to take into consideration the size difference between a Zealot and a human.

Even if overall reach was equal, a Jedi could be hitting the Zealot's arms when all the Zealot could do was hit the saber blade.

And the other Psi-blade goes to hit the Jedi. Remember, Zealots have two of them.

We've seen Jedi and Sith fight two on one saber wise on screen. They shouldn't have a problume with a pair of less capabul weapons being used by someone who doesnt anticipate there attacks.

[Singular Quartet]

Even if overall reach was equal, a Jedi could be hitting the Zealot's arms when all the Zealot could do was hit the saber blade.

And the other Psi-blade goes to hit the Jedi. Remember, Zealots have two of them.

We've seen Jedi and Sith fight two on one saber wise on screen. They shouldn't have a problume with a pair of less capabul weapons being used by someone who doesnt anticipate there attacks.

Its very hard to bock two attacks at the same time. That's the point your msissing.

[SAMAS]

So in short, the advantages come to:

Jedi
Possibly longer(but only slightly), definitely more agile blade.
Precognition
Agility
Probable base Skill

Zealot
Two Blades
Size and Strength
Cybernetic Enhancements
Shield.

[Singular Quartet]

So in short, the advantages come to:

Jedi
Possibly longer(but only slightly), definitely more agile blade.
Precognition
Agility
Probable base Skill

Zealot
Two Blades
Size and Strength
Cybernetic Enhancements
Shield.

If given suit enhancements, I thinkt he Protoss might be able to close the agility gap a little, but that might just be me.

I've been trying to dig up a debate about this fight from SB.com, because it showed some debating skills on the part of both sides, but I'm havig trouble digging it up...

[Sea Skimmer]

And the other Psi-blade goes to hit the Jedi. Remember, Zealots have two of them.

We've seen Jedi and Sith fight two on one saber wise on screen. They shouldn't have a problume with a pair of less capabul weapons being used by someone who doesnt anticipate there attacks.

Its very hard to bock two attacks at the same time. That's the point your msissing.

Yes it is. But we've seen them do it in filmed canon, and that was against an opponent with Precognition, something a Zealot has never been said to have. Indeed there suppose to have minimal psi power, possibly nothing beyond their natural telepathy