Terminator vs Predator

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Which do you think would win this 1-on-1

T-800
32
55%
Draw by predator bomb
8
14%
Legitimate draw
4
7%
Predator
14
24%
 
Total votes: 58

Crazedwraith
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Re: Terminator vs Predator

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Swindle, Just nitpick to the max would you? Yes its .50BMg. But its not a bog standard .50BMG. It's a special souped much more hard hitting anti-material version of the round. As to the 20mm cannon thing, beats me but its a claim made both in the show and on wiki. I should have said 'is said to have the same stopping power as a 20mm canon' to be totally accurate.

Wiki sources this article for the claim
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Presumably, a 20mm Cannon using similar ammunition would hit a shit-tonne harder than this would.
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Well yes. Its in comparison to 'Standard 20mm' rounds.
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Crazedwraith wrote:Well yes. Its in comparison to 'Standard 20mm' rounds.
Which do not really exist. For one thing we should know what 20 mm cartridge they are talking about. There's a pretty big difference between a 20x82 mm (dating back to WW2 MG151/20 and the only 20 mm cartridge actually used in anti-matériel rifles) and something like a 20x139 mm used in European AA guns and AFV autocannons. Then of course there are plethora of different rounds for those.

The talk about 20 mm rounds is classic marketing speak, so vague that they can always point out some 20 mm round that isn't more powerful. It should not be even difficult, concerning that many of the older rounds still in use were actually designed in the 1950s. If we assume that they mean the 20x102 mm cartridge used in the M61 Vulcan, it's even more likely, since it's a fairly weak cartridge and the "standard" ammo for it (the M50 Family) dates back to the 1950s. Nowadays the M50 family is no longer used by the USAF or USN (it was replaced by the PGU-28B SAPHEI and associated practice rounds), but it's still widely stockpiled and used in other countries.
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