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It was either this or What Price victory. I decided to go with this. sounded less Grimdark. Anyhow, first story up is 'Liberation day' which is one of those funny yet grimdark stories with a 'twist' ending. See if you can guess what I mean.


Page 15
"Section commander, fourth Division, house Skadi Integrated Militia. They dropped onto the hive and broke int at the shoreline. When we started putting up a good fight at the breaches, they dropped a chunk of rock into the sea just outside and sent a wave in that flooded the lower levels. Then they came back in and scooped us up. That's when they got my team . I don't know what happened after that."
The guy in question is from the Hive world of Vanaheim.

Page 17
"The greenskins? It's how they get when there's a fight in the air. There hasn't been as much squabbling between them as usual, but they still seem to get wind of a fight or a hunt a lot faster when they're bored. I wish I knew how they know when things like this are happening."

"We think it might be mind-to-mind, sir."

...

"We think they can talk to each others' minds like astropaths can. Ideas, feelings, they can... sort of ripple through large groups of them It's how they can make armies so fast. And how they can get excited and wanting to hunt even before they actually hear the news that a group of slaves have escaped."

"An astra-what?" said Challis. "talk sense, boy."

"Sounds like witchcraft to me," Hyl said, and made an uneasy face. Challis shot her a look, equal parts annoyance and confusion, until she noticed it and explained. "My father's ship had its contingent of witch-workers - they let starships steer, see where they're going,talk to other ships and palnets. But I never knew greenskins had their own."
- here its noted that Orks may communicate in the way astropaths can "ideas, feelings" can be "rippled" through large groups and help assemble armies. It also seems to be able to communicate vague ideas, but not precise ones (IE the communcation can convey a desire to hunt before actual news of slaves escaped, but it cannot convey the information that slaves did escape.)

Amusingly, a hive militia officer and a girl whose dad used to own a starship don' t know about astropaths.

Page 18
"Korland, sir. I was apprenticed to the household of Magos Biologis Emmanael Kort on Othera. I was compiling my journeyman's thesis on orkoid behaviour, sir.."
Non-techpriest AdMech? One wonders perhaps if the Magos biologis has a more open ended approach to things.

Page 19
"That's why my master was trying ot capture specimens, sir! We thought we might be able to divine the target of the war from them! It fits, sir - the migrations of orks from all around, we've been able to track them, the lack of infighting, the capturing of slaves to build war engines. We just needed to discern the trigger..."

..

"The adpetus Astartes, sir. Master Cort knew something of the ork language, and he told us what he had been able to discern. This hulk, other greenskin ships, they're all being drawn to a system where the orks are at war with the Astartes."
Research into the Orks done so that their "migrations" can be predicted, sounds a bit like what was done in Xenology, but apparently less heretical. Good luck with that, given what we know about how they work. Note as well the mention of using slave labor for construction and the "tracking" of migrations.

Page 21
Hyl leand finto the shaft and peered down, leaving Luder to guard the corridor with a captured ork pistol that it took the other woman both hands to lift, hefting it by the crude shoulder-stock they had had to make for it before any of the slaves could use it.
Ork weapons are considerably heavier and harder for humans to use. The stock, I imagine, is to help keep the weapon braced and deal with the recoil, since as we know these things can buck even a little in an Ork's hands, so being heavier they must have correspondingly greater momentum. (For example, if the weapon recoiled in an Ork's hand as much as say, a .45 does in a normal man's, we might infer that the Ork pistol has 2-3x more mass and thus recoil/momentum than the human one. "effectiveness" might not scale quite as linearly, but it would be fairly close I think, even despite Ork preferences for a desirable weapon.)

Page 22
It had been Cantle who first recognised it for what it was when they had discovered this shaft: a boarding torpedo, remnant of a long-ago Imperial attack. The shaft - Hyl looked up at the odd, lumpy walls where layers of decking had been half-melted and smashed aside - had been the tunnel it had bored deep into the hulk before it ground to a halt in this wreck's guts.
Boarding torpedo. Apparently not a Space Marine type, since it carries weapons lockers and stuff onboard and it isn't obviously space Marine stuff. It may be the difference between a "torpedo" and "shuttle" is blurred somewhat outside of Space Marine organizatons (EG its actually a shuttle but closer to a boarding torpedo perhaps because of guidance and speed.)

Page 23
Challis was the suggestion of an outline around the little glow of his igniter and, peering about, she could start to make out the dim shapes of corpses, dried and shrivelled, still locked into their pews and sunken into heavy enviroment suits and carapace armour. Challis was braced against a column that ran down the middle of the torpedo, a column studded with what had to be weapon racks.

"I've got the lockers open, managed to get a look inside. Lasers and stubbers, a grenade launcher I think we can fix, hand weapons . enough for about half of us. Weapons made for humans, not salvaged ork guns we can barely use."
- Mention of boarding torpedoess equipped with "heavy enviroment suits" and "carapace armour" - the two seem combinable.

There are also lasers and stubbers and a grenade launcher. Other weapons include a shotgun and a flamer. "Enough for fifty" people implies a couple dozen weapons all told tops, as there were around 40-50 people that were captured, minus a few that died during escape.

Again, it's interesting that this implies its a human-scale, rather than Astartes scale, boarding torpedo. Astartes do not typically use lasweapons or stubbers or carapace. (unless this is for their Chapter serfs, perhaps.)

Page 23
"The ammo lockers on these things look like they're made to last, and I mean last. Lasgun cells will keep for just about ever, and I think there are even flamer tanks back there that survived the impact."
these lasgun cells seem to have done well in space (whether or not its open space or whether the enviromental conditions onboard the hulk applied somewhat, I dunno.) We also dont know how long they lasted. We do know that not all lasgun power packs would neccesarily be like this (Some don't do as well in the cold as others.)

It may just go to highlight the sheer variety and diversity associated with lasweapons - you literally can find any possible combination or modification you owuld want dependign on the desirable traits and/or circumstances you want (performance over durability and/or reliability, or performance over longveity, for example.)

Page 24
And when the scouts had reported a rush of agitated orks to the hangers and gun decks, and distant flares of light beyond the viewports, they knew a battle had begun.
Someone in the crew was either had navy experience, or had traveled onboard naval ships and beeen in a battle in some manner.

Also, implied that the fighting is occuring Beyond visual range, which could imply ranges of thousands to tens of thousands of kilometers.

Page 25
The great holograph globe hanging above the chamber was cracked and long broken, but occasionally when a sparking greenskin looked at it it would brighten with green mist and faint images, though the greenskins paid little attention to it. Pictures, outlines of giant craft against the stars or bellowing greenskins in what Challis realised with joy were other ships in the fleet.

Oh yes, this was the place alright. The place where the spark-spitting orks talked to others on other ships and helped the hulk's commanders see their enemies. The witch-powered aliens who, Korland had told them confidently, would die of their own excitement as soon as any fighting started, leaving the hulk blinded and the greenskins unable to communicate.
- its noted that killing theOrk weirdboyz would leave their starships "blinded" and the greenskins "unable to communicate", suggesting that the Ork's psykers have atropathic qualities as well as functioning as some sortt of sensor apparatus. (and of course, in extraordinary cases, they can be used as weapons.) We've seen human astropaths used both in a sensory and communications role as well (Eg battle for the abyss), and navigators have been noted to have sensory qualities as well (rogue Trader RPG) so this all fits.

This is also an interesting glimpse into what may pass for an Ork command and control center onboard ship. It seems alot more orderly and less violent than I expected.

Page 25
Hyl's shoulder jerked as her grenade launcher recoiled, and flechettes stippled the skins of a dozen howling orks.
Grenade launcher firing a flechette round. Of course it could be that it was a frag grenade too, but there tends to be a difference between the two kinds of weapons.

Page 26
He ran to stand in front of the biggest witch-ork, forced himself to look the creature in the eye. Slowly, so that its brain would blast the image out into the minds of every astropath in the system, he raised his shotgun and spoke.
..

And then, suddenly, the creature straightened from its orkish slouch and stood over him. It's expression changed, its eyes fixedo nhim. As it spoke in a deep, oddly accented human voice the green steam around it seemed to curl into the suggestion of a helmet and faceplate, curved shoulderg uards and a great cloak.

"Human Challis, I speak from the battle-barge Ragnarok. You will undermine the turrets and defeat the shields for the wing of the hulk from which you speak."
- Ork behaves as a astropath for short range communications (space combat ranges.) Also the shields, while they block teleporters, do not block the astropathic comms.

Page 26-27
"Pay heed! The place you speak from juts form the side of your misshapen craft like a wing. It is decked with cannon and turrets, guns the orks iwll use to fire at us as we close the distance to storm it, walls of energy that mean we cannot teleport in to find you."

..

"We shall watch you, Challis, and mount our sortie when your destruction of the defences is done. Even as I speak we are in battle, and the defences must be open in thirty days or our attack may fail."
- the battle lasts for thirty days, although may not continuously do so. They certainly can't be thirty days travel away and conducting battle (well they possibly could, but its not likely.) However, even if they fought just a few minutes per day, this could lead to a cumulative result of fighting for an hour or more (and manuvering and such could consume fuel/power enough to mean that value is conservative as well, depending on engine performance and the variables which we sadly do not know.)

Page 28
A whoosh of flame incinerated the rearmost orks, the humans ducking down to avoid the wash of heat.
CSM flamer. If incinerated means cremate it could mean multi GJ to turn multiple orks to ash in a presuambly short period of time. If it means to badly burn, it could mean double digit MJ or more (at least several MJ, since Orks are bulkier and more massive than humans.)
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Next update for Crucible of War. Dan Abnett short story and a super-hormagaunt.


Page 35
Seven years is a long time in any man's career, seven years living and working in grubby tenements, bakcwater hostels and fronteir habs all over the planet. Long enough to feel like a native, and certainly to look like one, although he had been born forty two years and many million AU distant.
tens of LY is what I work out from "multi mililon AU" - implied distance between the planets, although I don't know that it is adjacent or not.

Page 35
This insipid and forlorn figure stared at his own reflection from the smoked glass screen of the demograph booth.

"Present papers. State name and occupation," the indistinct form behind the screen said. as he spoke, the words appeared in glowing, block-capital holos on the glass.
Some sort of official behind some sort of screen or device used for the purpose of tracking travel or suchnot.

Page 36

- a "Magos Biologis" is travelling on what amuonts to the 40K version of a greyhound bus. He needs a stamped permit to move (later its mentioned its a war zone, so transport probably has been clamped down on ) but its "interesting" to note this is a Biologis who isnt a cyborg AdMech loon. He looks more like a businessman or a accountant by description.

Then again this is early Abnett, and sometimes Early Abnett is.. different.. from other 40K in alot of ways. Hell early Abnett is different from latter period Abnett.

Page 36
The vehicle, a converted military gref-carrier from the Penninsula, was all but empty.
military carrier, presumably for PDF forces.

Page 38-39
A black robed demograph servitor, its face a cluster of slack turbes beneath augmetic compound eyes.
...
"Leofrik! This is Leofrik!" the servitor called as he walked the cabin. "Present your papers!"

Each voyager offered up his or her documents for the servitor to scan. Gershom was very particular about its indigents, the side effect of being so close to a war zone. The Departmento demographicae maintained a vigilant watch on the planet's human traffic.
work servitor.

Page 39

- Our Magos Biologis was commissioned seven years ago to write up a "comprehensive taxonomy" of the planet's animal life,w hich took him seven years to do, including extended deadlines and reluctant project
funding.

It's also worth noting that the servitor asks the Magos his purpose in travelling, keeping track of people's travelling.

Page 42
"My hunters have been using sealed body sleeves. Not one sniff of pheremone escapes those suits. And it still finds them."
- hunters using "sealed body sleeves" to prevent scents from escaping or warning prey/predators. May have other properties (Thermally insulating..)

Page 45
It wasn't torn. It was cut, cleanly, the tough wire strands simply severed. What could do that. Certainly not teeth, not even teth that could take the front off a man's face and body. A power blade, perhaps, but that would leave signs of oxidation and heat-fatigue.

As far as he knew - and there was no man on Gershom better qualified - there wasn't any animal on the planet that could leap a three-metre secruity fence and slice open reinforced agricultural mesh.
- power blades leave behind signs of "oxiydation and heat-fatigue", at least if they cut through metal (like wire mesh fences.)

Page 47

- a "las-surveyor" - some sort of measuring tool that seems to use a laser beam to gauge distances like a rangefinder.

Page 47
He'd changed into a foul-weather suit, and was hefting what looked like an autolaser, though Drusher was no expet on weapons. It had a big, chrome drum-barrel, and was so heavy it was supported by a gyro harness strapped around his torso. An auspex target-lens covered his right eye like a patch.
Some sort of man portable machine gun laser analogue used for hunting purposes. Presumably the Guard would have some access.

Page 48
There was no foreign matter in the poor yeoman's wounds, but she'd made an estimation of the bite radius. Fifty-three centimetres. Fifty three!
Hormagaunt bite radius. Or at least one potential one. That's big enough to bite heads off. Hell the fucking thing has to be pretty big.

Page 51
Skoh, dressed in a leather body-glove reinforced with mail links and segments of plasteel armour plate, entered Drusher's quarters in the keep and looked around.
body armor, seems a bit customizable.

Also note the guy's name is Skoh. This is the same last name/profession as someone who shows up in the Ravenor novels.

Page 51

- The Magos uses data slates. But then again at this point everyone in the Imperium uses data slates for osmething.,

Page 52
"I was paid to travel the wilder worlds of the Imperium trapping and collecting animal specimens to fight in the arena. The odder, the more savage, the better. It brought in the crowds if we had something.. unusual."
..

"The arenas of the Imperial Pits are ungodly, according to his holiness. I was employed by a secular entertainment industry that revelled in the bloodletting and carnage."
'Imperial Arena"

Page 52

- its interesting to note that in all this uproar over a "new apex predator" and some rogue beast they never consider chaos warping influences, except by the priest, and he's considered a bit weird for suggesting it. Again we see that the presence and influence/pervasiveness of Chaos is kept under wraps.

Page 53
Drusher stoppped the group and handed out the cartridges he'd prepared he night before.

"Load them into your shotguns," he said. "They won't have much range, I'm afraid."

Macks and Lussin had arbites-issue riot guns. Skoh had made sure his men had brought short action pump-shots along with their heavy ordnance.
The cartridges carry homing devices that can be picked up by auspex. Basically they fire on the target and the devices get attached.

local enforcers (I think) using arbites equipment.

Page 54
Little chrome pellets were packed inside a sticky fluid suspension.

"Trackers." he saiod. "miniature tracker units. They have a two thousand kilometre range. I usually use them for ringing birds.
The trackers can be picked up on auspex.

Page 55
Skoh and his hired hands had auspex units taped to their forearms, scanning for movement.
Auspex units.

Page 55
One of Skoh's men had opened fire with his autolaser.
Again, carrying the "autolasers" mentioned before.

Page 56
More shooting now. A second weapon joining the first. Stacatto puff-zqip-puff-zwip.

Thne the plangent boom of a shotgun.
..

His heavy weapon and part of its gimbal-rig had been torn off and were lying on the other side of the clearing. Huge clouts of fused earth had been torn out of the ground and two small trees severed completely form the fury of his shooting.

..

He still had his pump-shot clamped in hs hand. The end of the barrel was missing.
autolasers are mounted on some sort of gimbal rig and are defined as a heavy weapon. Something akin to a man portable multilaser perhaps? Implied to fuse parts of the ground (but an unspeicfied area) and shattering trees with its shots.

Page 57
"Two of them, with turbo-lasers, and they didn't kill it."
auto lasers called "turbo-lasers"

Page 57
"Get an auspex!" Macks ordred.

..

Reluctantly, Drusher approached Skoh's body, trying not to look directly at it. He crouched down and started to peel away the tape that secured the compact scanner to Skoh's left gauntlet.
- again, gauntlet-mounted auspex scanner.

Page 58
He swept the auspex around and tried to adjust its depth of field. He was getting alot of nearby bounce from the trackers that had gone wide and pelted the ferns and tree boles.

Two contacts showed at a greater range. Two of the glue-dipped teleplugs anchored to the hide of something moving north-west, just a kilometre and a half away.
The auspex picking up the homing beacons, at a range of 1.5 km.

Page 60
The air-mill had been derelict for fifty years. Its weather boards had fallen away and the sails of its wind-rotor were flaking. The district had processed its flour here, befor the cheaper mass-production plant had opened in Udar town half a century ago.
A bit on the planet's industrial state.

Page 60
There was something up with the auspex. An interference pattern that was making the screen jump. As if na outside signal was chopping the scanner's returns.
Something is jamming the auspex. I think it was some 'Nid magic stuff.

Page 61-62
Drusher dropped the auspex and fired his pistol.

The recoil almost broke his wrist. He helped in pain and frustration, stung hard by the kick. Use both hands, she'd told him.
..

Drusher fired. The recoil slammed up his arms.
The recoil of the autopistol implies ho w powerful the weapon might be.

Page 61
The Beast opened its mouth. Fithy three cetnimetres of bite radius, teeth like thorns. The blade-limbs jerking back to kill him.

He fired again. And again. He saw at least one round flick away, deflected by the Beast's bio-armour.
Hormagaunt's natural armour deflects one of the auto-rounds (glancing hit) but others were resistant.

page 62
It was right on him. and then it wsa thrown sideways against the wall.

It dropped, writhed, and rse again.

Drusher shot it in the head.

It lunged at him. A riot-gun roared and blew it back. Bleeding from the forehead, Macks stepped up and fired blast after blast. She fired until the gun was empty, then took the pistol out of Drushder's hands and emptied that into it too.
Takes multiple Arbites shotgun rounds (at least 4) and the full clip of an auto pistol to down this 'gaunt.

Oh yeah, its a hormagaunt.



Page 62
The goad control was easy to find, implanted into the back of the eyeless head.
Someone had control over the 'gaunt.
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Next update in Crucible of War. This story is called "Payback" by Graham McNeil. It's largely about a bounty hunter/merc/outlaw type person fighting on the planet Karis Cephalon. Those of you who have read some Gav Thorpe short stories (esp in Let the GAlaxy Burn) or have played Inquisitor or read much of the background fluff for the Inquisiotr RPG (which Gav Thorpe played a huge role in) you know Karis Cephalon was one of the big game settings. It will show up in some of the other anthologies I cover (at least Let the Galaxy burn). Anyhow, enjoy.


Page 66
The first thug opened up with his shotgun, blasting a plate-sized chunk of brickwork from the wall.
Self explanatory. I'm not sure if real life shotguns could do this, and it isn't neccesarily a deep chunk, but its powerful. Presumably weapons of similar category (Eg possibly lasguns, depending on what one defined a "shell" as) could do this too if configured right.

Page 66
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Cornelius swung the unconscious girl around in fron tof him, using her body as a shield, and blew the back of the shooter's head clear with a single las-bolt.
Cornelius is using a laspistol. Presumably this indicates the bolt penetrated some distance before the "exploding", which is a trait more of particle beams than most kinds of photonic lasers. You'd need smoething penetrating like an X-ray laser or similar to get that kind of penetration (most "penetrating" lasers would have to dig via a series of rapidly-delivered pulses, akin to the method described on Atomic Rockets for laser sidearms.)

Alternately, it is possible that the gunman had his head turned briefly to present the back of his head to Cornelius, allowing him to blast it off WITHOUT penetration, but this is a little hard to believe in context of the situation.

Either way, its possible for no more than a couple kilojoules to blow the back of the head off, delivered properly (again akin to the way the Atomic Rockets site does it.) and composition (flesh can take a litlte energy, but bone can be hard to punch through... taking easily 10x the energy of flesh to penetrate in the same manner. On the other hand, much like with normal bullets, bone shards can also make VERY good shrapnel, which can contribute to shredding the head which could reduce the energy.) It also doesn't factor in possibility of secondary thermal effects (burning/charring, cauterization, and the like).

Page 66
Pain tore at him as the synth-flesh bandage Monque had applied ripped free and blood ran down his side.
"synth flesh bandage."

Page 68
Her black eyes glittered in the dim light cast by the hooded glowlamps as she knelt and lifted a blue-steel plasma gun from one of the packing crates sitting on the ground between them.

Cornelius could tell they were just itching for an excuse to use the battered rifles - antique PDF surplus - they carried.
- crates of plasma weapons given to rebel/revolutionary troops - they're described as "antique PDF surplus". They're only getting plasma guns too, rather than las-weapons. Rather odd, but this fact (alongside stuff like Necromunda) suggests that plasma weapons are not nearly as "ancient or rare or lost tech" as emphasized in some fluff. Or at least, not all plasma weapons are made equally (much like not all lasweapons are equal, not all bolters are equal, etc., which makes sense.)


Page 69
At a shade over two metres, Cornelius Barden was one of above average height, and his build was that of a pit-fighter. His shoulders were wide and powrful, his waist narrow and his chest slabbed with thick muscle. He wore a long greatcoat, hiked over the butt of his stubber and his silver hair and beard reflected the torchlight.

- being a shade over two metres is considered "above average" height, at least on Karis Cephalon. Again incidental proof that humans in 40K can be different, better/tougher than normal humans. This is especially interesting since a fair number of worlds tend to be slightly heavier than Earth normal gravity (like Cadia) but the individuals look to be rather normal human looking despite the strain such planets would put on the body.

Page 69
Cornelius kept his eyes on Lathesia as Trask lifted out bundles of tied bills and fed them into an auto-counter. The machine flickered quickly through the money, its tiny machine spirit checking denominations and for counterfeit bills.
The auto counter on the next page goes into the sack with the money, so its very portable.

Page 70
One of the mutants was down, his guts burned open by twin las-blasts.
Probably from a lasgun, the only las-weapon mentioned and judging from the extent of the wounds, but it could be a laspistol too. The target was described as a "heavily built" mutant, suggesting he was fairly bulky.

A sizable torso wound might suggest a couple fist-sized blasts, which again could suggest low kilojoule range output for explosive damage (say double digit kj, possibly single digit depending on size and placement and depth of the wounds, as well as the design of the weapon.) With the burns.. it could be much higher Assuming a pair of 10x10cm wound areas and third degree burns it could be around 5-10 kj per bolt at least. Assuming that the burns stretched over the entire torso (say 20-30 cm by 20-30cm) the total burns (50-100 j/cm for 3rd degree flash burns, at least - 45-100 kilojoules total.)
If we assume a 15 cm radius hemisphere (or a 30 cm diameter burn), 700 kg/m^3 density would be ~5 kg of flesh affected. Assuming something between 100-200 C temp for cauterization (between boiling and twice boiling) could be between 1.34 and 2.68 MJ for both shots. A probable safe bet is double/triple digit kilojoules, although with a decent enough laspisto or lasgun on a high enough setting (say max) you could argue a megajoule or so per shot (most of that burn damage and significant cauterization.) But single/double digit kilojoules would work too - again it depends on the variables.

Of course, depending on hwo big the mutant is assumed ("heavily built" could be a bulky human sized target or something closer to Astartes size for all we know, like Bragg.)

Page 70
Very dumb, thought Cornelius as a flurry of bullet impacts cratered his chest. A final shot took off the top of his head.
Effect of autopistol/stubber round on the head. Again, if a bullet strikes right way, it can do some pretty nasty damage from bone shrapnel and such, but such is unpredictable. (oddly, 40k projectiles seem to do that pretty often.) It also echoes the damage we saw from laspistols above.

PAge 71
The noise he'd been circling towards resolved itself as a man, crouched low with a long-barrelled lasrifle.
Cornelius drew a power knife and thumbed the activation rune, the blade glowing faintly with lethal energy.

Two steps and he closed the gap, wrapping his thick arms around the man's neck. His victim's arms came up, clawing. Cornelius hammered the full length of the power knife thorugh the man's armpit and into his heart. The man's struggles ceased instantly.
- the weapons smuggler Cornelius using a power knife. We aren't sure from the source which side (as far as I remember) he is stabbed from, but goign throught he armpit to reach the heart suggests a fairly long blade 8-10" or so at least I'd guess.

Page 73
A gurgling medicae transfusor pumped fresh blood into his body, and he experiecned a momet of panic as he suddenly wondered where it came from. Was it mutant blood? Might it be infected with the plague that had swept through the mutant population in the last few weeks? Would it make him like the twisted wretches he'd seen eking out a slave's existence in the mutant ghetto?

Monque saw his concern and chuckled.

"don't worry, its clean. And anyway, despite what the priests will tell you, mutant blood is just like yours and mine. Their corruption is in the soul, not the blood."
It may seem amusing at Cornelius' ignorance of biology, but its worth remembering that there are people in real life who will believe similar stupid things (vaccines causing autism for example?)

Mind you, this doesn't hold true for all sorts of mutation. Chaos taint could be transmitted by physical means as we have ample cases to know of - its perfectly capable of affecting or being carried in the inanimate as well as the animate.

Page 74
He extended his little finger and forced it into the bullet hole, twisting and prodding inside Cornelius' belly. He shook his head and pushed deeper, past the knuckle, rooting around for the hard touch of the bullet.

"Well at least it didnt strike any bone and fragment," murmured Monque to himself.
- stubber bullet wound that hits the weapons smuggler is big enough that a surgeon can stick his little finger into the wound and probe for the bullet. Depending on what one's lil finger could be.. it could be 10-15mm.

Page 74 -
The bullet was less than a centimetre long, a flattened oval of silver steel spattered red.
The extracted bullet. Must have been a hollow point of some kind. If we assume 1/3 to half the bullet flattened, it would be ~1.5-2 cm long... the bullet diameter would be between 8-10mm or so, which seems to roughly fit what I figured above.

I wonder about the "silver steel" bit - it may just refer to the color rather than the actual composition, although it might also be made of steel (rather curious for a hollow point, methinks.) unless its something like a "semi jacketed" bullet.

Page 79
The days blurred. Cornelius stripped his weapons, preparing special hand-loads for the stubber. Dumdums and man-stoppers. One-shot killers.
"special hand loads" for his stubber rifle. Not sure what "man-stoppers" are, its been awhile since I read Inquisitor or Necromunda.

Page 83
He dropped to the floor as bullets and las-bolts blasted through the window and popped chunks of brickwork from the wall.

Trask's torso disintegrated under the fusillade, his body torn to pieces. He flopped onto the bed, the mutant whore's screams reaching new heights.
We don't know how many men, but there were at least six (Cornelius kills four, and knocks out another two later) but for autogun/stubbers and las-weapons to do that (which are often equated to being roughly comparable, and for our purposes that works). Hundreds of kilojoules (Say half a megajoule to megajoule) could EASILY do that - problem is we don't know how many shots, or how many guns firing. Single to double digit KJ per shot (weighted more towards single) could cover this with sufficient numbers, so sadly it doesn't tell us much.

Page 85
Cornelious worked fast, pulling on the agent's grey trousers and jacket. Swiftly he buckled on the heavy breastplate and took the agent's helmet, slipping it on and lsiding down the visor. Grabbing the agent's shock maul, he rose to his feet and slammed it down hard on the dead barman, shouting "Filthy mutant scum!"
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SSA is "Speical security agents" - law enforcement/security forces on Karis Cephalon. Basically Enforcers/ARbites, meaning that the stuff probably qualifies as Carapace.
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Next update. Space Marine story. The Chapter Master is smart and badass than the "kill em all" psycho.

Page 89
A long line of ships stretched away into the dark reaches of the outer system. More than sixty vessels in all, among them survery ships and recovery vessels, giant transports and tiny scouts, as well as fearsome vessels of war. Their crusade had lasted fifteen years of their time, as they had entered and re-entered the warp. But on Taran III, the homeworld of their Chapter, their battle-brothers had aged nearly a hundred.
Sixty vessels (remaining) of a Space Marine Crusade fleet, not all of them warships but all evidently warp capable. Note the mention of time dilation between the crusade forces and the planetary forces (roughly a 1:6 or 1:7 ratio on average).

The space Marines in question are the Storm Warriors.

Page 89
Aboard the giant transports were the prizes they had sought for the Emperor who commanded them - ancient artefacts from lost civilisations, treasures form a dozen strange worlds, specimens and recordings and survery results to last a thousand scholars' lifetimes.

They carried people too - the Emperor's loyal subjects, representatives of the survivors from systems isolated in the great warp storms. Their peoples had long since given up hope that the Imperium would reach out to find its lost chidlren - until the day the great ships of the Storm Warriors fleet had appeared in the skies over their home-worlds.
Plunder from the crusade. Not all of it material. The interetsing bits (IMHO) are the rperesentatives (refugees?) - and it makes me wonder what they're meant to represent. Integration in to the local sector/subsector level bureacracy? complaince? Who knows.

The survery/scientific data is interesting too, as I wonder what use some of that might be put to.

Page 90
"By tonight the Valiant and her escorts will hav ejoined us. Tomorrow, battle-brothers from the Black Templars will be here, and I expect a mixed force of cruisers and destroyers to arrive from Elara Prime..."
Reinforcements to assist the Storm Warriors in a new mission. Implied to be reaching from an unknown (out system, therefore at least multi ly) within a day. IF we are talking about sector/subsector distances, the distance could be as little as a few ly (say 5-10 LY average) up to 200 or so LY (across the sector.) - a few thousands to a few tens of thousands of c at least. The usual "hundreds or thousands of light years between worlds) coming from other fluff (oftne with the sole "million world') figure would give higher velocities - tens to hundreds of thousands of c. Clearly its a pretty wide range of values, but nothing dramatically out of touch with what we know from elsewhere. I'm betting though its hedged towards the lower end of the scale (forces closer by, within the sector or subsector.) But on the other hand, preparations and other possible delays could likewise increase the speed.

Page 91-92
"We have five hundred Marines aboard the Sirius, a hundred more aboard Ilyan and Tigris, and enough firepower to tear a hole in their defences."

..

"We were nine hundred strong when we left Taran III. Three hundred of our battle-brothers will never see those silver skies again."
The battle barge Sirius carries 500 Marines and the two cruiser escorts carry a hundred together. Its noted that they started out 900 strong, which means that these particular ships could carry more.

Curiously it also means that 90% of the Chapter arugably went out on Crusade, leaving a bare company of MArines back on the home planet. That would have limited their ability to respond to other threats unless they were not Codex (and somewhat larger, EG like the Black Templars or Space Wolves) but it is probable that in the interium they raised/trained further recruits to fill out their ranks. It would illustrate how the "thousand man" restriction is more a guideline rather than a absolute limit, since there is no plausible way to enforce it literally (What, are they going to kill off any space marines that go over the limit? Not bloody likely.)

Page 92
The Valiant had been schedules to meet the returning Storm Warriors in the Magellan Sector, to take charge of the transports and other Imperial vessels and escrot them to the bases where they would be recieved and their cargoes and survery records examined.

- The aforementioned Valiant, a batltehsip and six escorts arrive at Tesra IV just before midnight. We don't know if the Magellan sector is this sector or an adjoining one, but part of my instinct says it was a nearby sector and isn't the sector they were in (They might give indication if that were the case.) This would suggest that the ships corssed tens or hundreds of lightyears within a day (or perhaps half a day). Tens of thousands of c.

Page 93
"They've fired something! The shuttle's fired something!"

..

"Sir, it's not a missile at all. It appears to be a drop pod. We detect one life form aboard. It's heading for the planet's surface, moving very fast."
This seems to suggest some missiles (torpedoes) and drop pods can fly at similar velocities.

Page 94
Hundreds of kilometres below the task force, swarms of fighters were emerging on the edge of the atmosphere, racing to intercept the drop pod. as they approached the tiny pod it seemed to accelerate and started to dodge and weave. The fighters closed in, mirroring its movements and firing lance-like bursts of laser cannon at it. The fate of the tiny craft looked inevitable, until suddenly an enormous laser bolt from the Ilyan ripped through the fighter formation, incinerating many of them, and the strike cruiser and her sister vessel surged forward into their midst.
Context wise, it implies guns on the Imperial escorts were firing on the fighters from some distance away (hundreds of kilometers), but that may not be so (relative velocities aren't really known, for one thing) and we dont know the exact nature of the armaments (it could be point defense guns or the big ones, although the nature of destruction suggests large ones, so targeting at that range probably isn't too surpsing, ocnsidering engagement ranges of tens or hundreds of thousands of kilometers especially for laser weapons.)

Regardless of the actual range, it also indicates a degree of accuracy in the specified weapon against a group of targets (but unsirprising, since we know from epic Armageddon that even some lance turrtes can knock out groups of Ork bommers.)

It at least sets a context-based upper limit on space ranges for fighters against a drop pod of unknown size and speed (and capable of manuvering) of "hundreds of kilometers"

Page 95
On the bridge of the Sirius, Calan shook his head in wonder as his cruiser captains threw their ships around space like fighter jets.

They watched in awe as the cruisers descended behind the tiny drop pod. Every weapon on the cruisers seemed to be firing, blasting at the rebel fighters like giants torubled by gnats. As they entered the atmosphere their hulsl glowed and seemed to be ablaze, and the fighters peeled off as their heat shields threatened to overload. The pod itself only accelerated further, glowing like a shooting star and then turning off rapidly otwards the frozen north and disappearing ot land somewhere in the arctic wastes. Ilyan and Tigris turned off in the opposite direaction, racing through the skies of the polluted planet, leaving multiple sonic booms and hurricane-like tail winds in their wake."
Astartes cruisers (Strike cruisers? Possibly since it was implied that between the two they carried 100 troops and this was after losses during the Crusade.) can enter the atmosphere, at least to a certain extent. Initial passage ought to be at least hyper-velocity (in the upper atosphere) but they'd have to rapidly slow to manuver like they did (especially to get down to something below some obvious hypersonic speeds)

Interestnig too, they seem to be doing this with shields down. Should say something about not just the agility of the "cruisers"

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The Fleet had been in orbit around Tesra IV for eleven days. A company of Black Templars arrived on the second day and further reinforcements continued to assemble.


It's mentioned on the next page that on the tenth day a group of his own officers and others from the Black Templars and naval crews had gathered to consult with Chapter Master Calan, so it was fewer than 10 days to assemble all these forces, from however far away it was. This is within the range of possibility projected in some sources (Eg the 2nd edition Guard codex.)

Page 95

His men were renowned for their close combat skills and their great physical strength, even by the standards of the Adeptus Astartes, and they wanted to fight.


- Black Templars Space MArines are considered exceptionally strong, even by Astartes standards.

Page 96

Lord Admiral Dacius, commanding the Valiant, was technically in command of the fleet in space, but was required to defer to Calan in respect to the planetary assault. His own officers had even suggested that the Valiant launch its own assault, bombarding the planet and then landing invasion parties selected from their own highly-trained boarding crews.


An Admiral outranks a Space Marine Chapter Master in space, but not on the ground. Something tells me this might be more of a "case by case" basis sort of thing, however (not all Chapter Masters are equal, to put it nicely.)


Page 97

The Winter Palace was Ignatius's favourite retreat, a haven of tranquility on an over-developed industrial planet, much of which had slowly turned into a single giant city. He had once heard it called a hive-world, and that was increasingly what it was, with its forty billion inhabitants, its vast underground factories and dormitories, and the mining operations that penetrated almost to the planet's core.


This place seems to be one of those "intermediate" sorts of hive worlds.. its still partly habitable (although leaning twoards the scale of uninhabitable) but has not yet accumulated the truly absurd population estimates places like Necromunda or Armageddon have.

The bit about mining to the planet's core is interesting, although I'm not entirely sure they're being figurative (since you'd break into the mantle and that would be.. hard to mine methinks. )


bPage 97

It was a world of enormous wealth, yet it was also a desolate place whose atmosphere had been poisoned by industrial pollution. Only in the arctic north could a man walk freely on the planet's surface and breathe the air without the help of apparatus.


Only small places on the planet in the Arctic North are still habitable. The rest is largely inhospitable due to pollution. One wonders how this was achieved - either the atmosphere is shielded (artificially or naturally somehow) from the pollution and it cannot reach into this area, or the area somehow extends above it are all I can think of.

Page 97

He enjoyed the sense of privacy and seclusion in them and liked to look up at the mighty Mount Okram, the tallest mountain on the planet, in whose shadow the Winter Palace had been built a thousand years before.

..
In more recent times attempts had been made to land on the summit from the air, but even large craft could not manoeuvre safely in the storms that constantly swept the summit. Teleport tests had been tried with volunteers, but the metallic ores at the heart of the mountain upset the delicate positioning apparatus with catastrophic - and fatal - consequences.


The planet apparnetly has its own teleport technology, and of a kind that can be interefered with in some manner (sensors or targeting maybe) by the metal in said mountain.

Page 98

Then they would have discovered - to their cost - that the armouries of Tesra IV that had equipped the Imperial Navy so magnificently over the centuries could also produce land-based weapons. Ignatius had perosnally overseen the secret installation of concealed batteries of nova cannons, missile silos and other defences.


- mentioned of concealed "nova cannon batteries" on the surface of the planet. As wellas missile silos. Part of me suspects this is yet another example in a long line of "different ideas of what a nova cannon is."

Page 98

With the Emperor's forces destroyed, he, Ignatius the Third, would control not just TEsra IV, but the entire sector. It was risky, of course, but he had friends that even his closest accomplices knew nothing about. His periods of unexplained absence over the past three years had in fact been well spent securing new allies, allies who understood and appreciated him, who would support him and his rule, poweful ruthless allies who would make the Imperium think twice before attempting to re-take this sector.


Allies with Chaos, but its interesting to consider that the Governor of this planet had acess to warp-travel presumably independent of the Navy. Not neccesarily FAST travel, though, if it took him years to travel all around the sector. One possibility (utilized in other similar cases) is that he allied himself with freebooters or pirates or othres of a renegade nature.

Page 99

He had been tempted to fire the nova cannons almost two weeks ago when a bizarre incident had occured. A drop pod was launched from the Ipmerial fleet, his fighteres moved to intercept it, and two strike cruisers, intervened, chasing away his fighters and risking their own destruction by entering the planet's atmosphere.


mention of the nova cannons again.

Page 99

But the waiting figure was capable of great patience and had endurance beyond the capacity of normal men.


Vindicaire assasin.

Page 102-103

He [Chapter Master] turned and stared towards the summit of Mount Okram, looking for something that could not be seen with the naked eye.

Many thousands of metres above the men in the ice garden, the assaassin crouched unmoving, oblivious to the cold, staring through the sniper-scope at the scene below,. awaiting the signal from the chapter master.

...

When he squeezed the trigger there was an almost inaudible phuuut and then he relaxed, no longer conscious of the scene below him...

..

Ignatius felt something sting his neck, and touched it gingerly as if expecting an insect bite - except that there were no insects at the winter palace. His hand came away with a smear of blood on it. He looked up at the mountainside, visibly shocked. His hands and knees starting to tremble.


Asssassin sniper firing a needle weapon of some kind - and manages to hit the target accurately in the neck from thousands of metres away. Given the lack of "blowing the skull apart" and low mass, the thing must have somehow removed the intervening air and fired the round at an extremely high velocity. Possibly some sort of self-guided needle round since I dont think the thing could safely be hypervelocity.

Page 105


"Sir - planetary defence forces are airborne. I'm detecting nearly a thousand short-range orbital launches. Probably fighters but could include some bombers and assault craft. It looks like they're launching everything they've got, and they're heading this way."


Scale of ground based space forces. This seems to be "typical" responses. Of course the kind of fighter matters, since we could be talking about the far smaller IA bombers or the multi hundred ton BFG/Gav Thorpe types.
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To hell with it. Bonus story due to the delay. Cain story. Seen in the first omnibus I believe, this is the anthology it came from.


Page 109
Ciaphas Cain - "To Serve the Emperor: A Commissar's Life," 104.M42
Cain lives at least 104 years into the 42nd Millenium.

Page 109
When I look back over the past hundred years of cowardice, truth-bending, bowel-loosening terror, and sheer dumb luck that somehow propelled me to the dizzy heights of Hero of the Imperium, I can truthfully point to that bruy little skrimish on a forgotten mining world as the incident which made me what I am.
This implies Cain's activities spanned a century or more meaning he was close to the end of the 41st Millenium. Probably needs to be retconned now given the novels (he was retired by the time of the 13th Black Crusade.) Fortunately, we have enough reason to sometimes take Cain at less than his totla word if we need to, and Age/centuries is one of those things.


Page 110
He glanced up from his slate of 'artistic engravings' as I appeared, and shabmled in my general direciton, his boots kicking up little puffs of the baking yellow dust.
Even back then, Jurgen had his porn.

Page 110
The ground crew were starting to unload the cargo, anonymous crates and pieces of mining machinery larger than I was floated past on lift pallets. The mines were the reason we were here; to ensure the un-interrupted supply of something or other to the forge worlds of the Imperium despite the presence of an ork raiding party, which had been unpleasantly suprised to find an Imperial Guard troopship in orbit waiting for a minor warpstorm to subside when they arrived.
Antigrav lift pallets. Also this implies the Orks may have emerged a bit closer to the planet than ships noramlly do, as they were "surprised" by a troopship. Perhaps its a case like in Rynn's world where they come out about a light second or so from the planet. We know Orks and Chaos will do crazy stuff like that.

Page 111
The total population of the colony was just a few hundred thousand, including elders and kids; just a village really by Imperial standards.
Indication of population size relative to the Imperium as a whole. This suggests it is a rather small, unimportant world.

Page 112
The first thing I made out with any clarity were the Earthshakers, even at this distance they were impressive, dwarfing the inflatable habdomes that clustered around the compound like camouflaged mushrooms. As we got closer I made out battereis of Hydras too, carefully emplaced along the perimeter to maximise cover againts air attack.
Inflatable habdomes, and the Valhallan Artillery and air defence stuff.

Page 112
The air in the habdome was freezing, despite the furnace heat outside, and I found myself unexpectedly grateful for the greatcoat that went with my uniform. I should have anticipated Valhallan tastes would run to air conditioning which left your breath vapourising when you spoke. Mostrue was still in his shirtsleeves while I was trying my best not to shiver.
The Valhallans inflatable habdomes are air conditioned.

Page 113
"We've never had a commissar assigned to us before."
..

"Probably becuase you don't seem to need one. Your unit records are exemplary."
- Mostrue's regiment never had a commissar attached to it before. It seems that you only see Commissars in regiments that it is felt "need" them, by and large. Not unusual - the Cadians from Cadian Blood got away without having a Commissar, and mayn Armageddon Ork Hunter regiments don't seem to have them either (OR Catachans.. but thats a different reason.)

Page 114
The truth was, of course, that despite what you've seen in the holos, charismatic commissars loved and respected by the men they lead are about as common as ork ballerinas;
Sort of true and sort of not. "loved" commissars are probably rare to unheard of, but "respected" is certainly not unusual. We've seen it in lots of the Guard novels time and again, for example. A Commissar does not have to be "loved" to be effective, nor does he have to be feared. He just has to be admired/respected mainly, and there are lots of those. in various Guard-oriented novels.

Page 115
The orks had fallen back further and faster than I'd expected, and I began to realise just how merited the Valhallans' reputation as elite shock troopers were. Even fighting in conditions about as hostile to them as they were ever likely to encounter, they had ground a stubborn and viscious enemy to paste in a matter of weeks.
The Valhallans (according to Cain) have some reputation as Shock troops the way the Cadians do, even in hostile conditions. This would confirm that, like the Cadians, cAtachans and other "high profile" regiments they're considered something of elites.

Page 116
A fleet of starships, over a thousnad strong, was curving in towards the Desolatia system. I was impressed. News of the uprising on the remote agriworld was only just beginning to filter back to the Commissariat when I'd been dispatched here; the Navy had evidently been busy in the last three months.
- a task force of a thousand starships is mentioned as being dispatched to a war-zone the Valhallans are involved in (fighting on an agri-world.). It apparently took several months to assemble, but of course this is on a minor backwater. (Of course as we learn the reasons fo rthis might be more than the orks or not even related ot the Orks. But still..)

Page 117
A long bloody campaign to cleanse the world metre by metre. Virus bombing from orbit was the option of last resort on an agriworld, which would cease to be of any value to the Imperium if its ecosystem was destroyed.
Genestealer infestation, and the means of dealing with it.

Page 117\
"A day, maybe two" The colonel shrugged. "The astropaths at regimental HQ lost contact with them last night."
..

There's very little which can cast a shadow in the warp so powerful that it can cut off communication with an entire battle fleet..
Apparently they lost contact with the aforementioned battlefleet. This implies that communication occured while the fleet was en route, and thus in the Warp. However, astropathy whilst in the Warp is.. dangerous to say the least. It means breaching the wards meant ot hide the crew from the daemons and other warp denizens, and it basically acts as a beacon to draw them. Which is, as I said.. madness. Either the fleet was really in realspace at the time, or the astropath (or whoever) doing it was so skilled they managed to remain undetected doing so.

It is also implied that nothing other than a Tyranid force can ever jam astropathic communicatons like that so abruptly and across such a scale.

Page 117
"Put the whole battery on full alert. Especially the Hydras. Call regimental headquarters and tell them to do the same. Don't take no for an answer. And get every air defence auspex you can on line."
- mention of the Valhallan artillery regiment having "air defence auspexes"


Page 118
I was in the command post, talking to the captain of an ore barge which had made orbit that morning, when my worst fears were realised.
Establishes time and chronology. This occured very shortly after Cain realizes the 'Nids are on their way.

Page 118
"you weren't due for another week" I said. The captain shrugged. "We were lucky. Th warp currents were stronger than usual."

"Or something very big is disturbing them.," I suggested.
An indication that warp currents can be helpful as well as harmful. In this case cutting a week off warp travel. It's a pity we dont know how long the original trip took or the distance ocvered. We can tell, however, that the remaining warp travel and inter-system travel was far less than a week though for an ore barge no less.

Page 118
He was about to say something else, when his navigator interrupted.
"We're detecting warp portals. Dozens of them!"

"The fleet?" Divas asked hopefully at my elbow. Mostrue shook his head doubtfully.

"The auspex signatures are all wrong. Not like ships at all..."

"Bioships." I said. "No metal in the hulls."
- mention of "dozens" of warp portals appearing. Very shortly after (minutes at besT) the Tyranids launch an invasion on the planet. Apparently (at least in this case) the Tyranids emerged from the warp very close to the planet, like Orks and sometimes Chaos does. It's risky, but doable. The Imperium doesn't do so because of the risk, apparently.

Auspexes also detected the portals. They have some warp detection ability, at least passive in nature.

Page 118
Like I said, there wasn't much that could cast a shadow in the warp that big, and with genestealers running rampant a couple of systems away it didn't need Inquistor Kryptman to join the dots.
Indication that (at least according to Cain) Genestealers can operate across multi-system scales. Whether this is shheer coincidence, some proto hivemind effect, or something like the Elucidium, is up for debate (another short story. Supposedly a inter-galactic Genestealer cell network.)

Page 119
I turned my attnetion back to the freighter captain before he could cut the link.

..

Outside, the staccato drumbeats of the Hydras opened up, seeking the first mycetic spores to breach the atmosphere. Red dots began to blossom on the hololith, marking the first beachheads.
This occurs over the course of an entire conversation taken between the detection of the portals and realization that Tyranids are attacking, and Cain ordering the captain of the ore barge to remain in orbit. Minutes at best, meaning the 'Nids materialized from the warp VERY close to the planet, certainly less than an AU away, perhaps no more than light seconds, given the relatively rapid auspex returns (they could tell there wasn't
any metal in them)

Also note that the Hydras are opening up as the mycetic spores breach the atmosphere. What actual boundary this means is up for debate, but it could mean many kilometers at least, if not tens of km. It would also imply some fairly high velocities (hypersonic/hyper velocity?) to reach up that far, even with their proximity/airburst properties. And such weapons are meant to be less ranged and powerful than battle cannon, but there is enough overlap between the two (and different kinds of such cannon) that its not neccesiarly a vast improvement - there could even be equality since some autocannon are baiscally tank guns too.) Impressive nonetheless. Orks have shown similar ability in Fifteen Hours and gunheads.

Page 119
"One of the splinter fleets from Ichar IV." The segmentum was full of them, fallout from the Ultramarines' heroic victory over Hive Fleet Kraken almost a decade before.
this sets a timeline (roughly) for the events of this story, someitme within the time fo the events of Hive fleet Kraken. May be a possible contradiction given that this incident predates Cain's retirement and work with the Valhallan mechanized he is most famous for. Again, We can allow some latitude in Cain's recollections, as Amberely often does.

Page 119
I slapped him encouragingly on the back, radiating an easy confidence I didn't feel, and indicated the data coming in from the ore barge's navigational auspex. "Less than a hundred ships." Each one of which probably held enough bioconstructs to devour everyone on the planet, but I couldn't afford to think about that just now.
The splinter fleet has a hundred ships. IIRC there were hundreds, pehaps thousands of hive fleet splinters.

Page 119 - 120
"That's why you wanted the barge. To see what's going on up there." Most of the regimental sensor net had been directed downwards, towards the planet's surface.
: mention of a "regimental sensor network" apparently in orbit - for the war it had been "directed downwards" towards the planet's surface, though its implied it could also be used to detect anything in space were it configured that way.

Page 120
Red contact icons on the surface were beginning to make the hemipshere look like a case of Ulhren's pox.
Scale of the nid threat and apparently how fast they landed.

Page 120
"Evacuate who?" The suspicious look was back on Mostrue's face again. I pointed to the mining colony.

"I'm sure you haven't forgotten we have a quarter of a million civilians sitting right next to the landing field." I pointed out mildly "The 'nids haven't noticed them yet; thank the Emepror for underground hab zones."

..

"will one barge be enough?" Divas asked.

"Have to be," I said. "It'll be cramped and uncomfortable for sure, but it beats ending up as Hormagaunt munchies."


..

"Even with evey shuttle they can lay their hands on, it's going to take at lest a day to get everyone aboard."
- an old ore barge is large enough to carry roughly a quarter million people or so, if a bit crowded. Its noted that even with all the shuttles on the Agri world, it would take roughly at least a day to evacuate everyone.

Page 122
I wandered from group to group, cracking a few jokes, easing tension, instilling them with a confidence I was far from feeling myself. Despite my personal shortcomings, and I'd be the first to admit that they're many, I'm very good at that side of things. Which is why I was selected for the commissariat in the first place.
Cain was made a commissar for his people skills. Which suggests they do have at least as much vlaue for that as shooting people in the head.

Page 122
"Gargoyles" I shouted, although the warning could barely be heard above the unearthly shrieking which presaged a bioplasma attack. I leapt aside just quickly enough to avoid a seething bolt of primal matter vomited up by a winged horror swooping in my direciton. I felt the heat on my face as it went past, detonating a few yards away and setting fire to a tent.
Tyranid bioplasma attack. Cain seems to think its literally plasma, and this depiction hints at it being explosive/reactive (chemical?)

Page 122
Erhlsen was kneeling, tracking it with the barrel of his lasgun, leisurely, as if he was at a recreational target shoot. I threw myself flat, just as he squeezed the trigger and the thing's head exploded.
IG with lasgun takes down Tyranid gargoyle with headshot. The man is almost as skilled as Jurgen. Also note taking down the Gargoyle with a headshot. Interesting note is that as per IA4, Gargoyles average some 200 kilos, making them much heavire (and likely tougher) than normal humans, even 40K humans. Which makes the headshot more impressive. Using the Peak Damage calculator from Luke Campbells' laser death ray page, and assuming 'Nid flesh (including carapace) was somewhere between bone and gristle for toughness - say a 2 cm of bone and 20-25 cm of gristle - you could expect 100-200 kj required in a single pulse for gristle. A few tens of kj would handle the bone. Were it wholly bone, and a 25 cm depth you might need upwards of 500-600 kilojoules. If it was all just meat? mere 10 kj could handle it easily.

Pulsing the laser of course can of course result in far lower yield (single or double digit KJ depending on how you fudge things like number of pulses or energy per pulse.). 50 50 joule pulses for example could conceivably do it in flesh. 50 2 kj pulses in gristle..

Page 123
The Hydras were firing continuously now, stitching the air over the compound with tracer fire which looked desne enough to walk on, but the gargoyles were small and fast-moving, evading most of it with ease.
Hydras hav etoruble tracking the Gargoyles ta close range, it seems.

Page 124
Within moments we were beyond the camp perimeter, and Jurgen began to slow.
Beyond the perimeter in a salamander in "moments" Assuming top off road speed (15 m/s) and around 5-10 seconds.. we're tlaking around 75-150 meters outside the perimeter at least. Mind you again, we're faced with the fact Cain's "moments" may not be able to be taken literally given what happens on the next page.

PAge 125[/b

The Salamander shook again, and the engine howled, as Jurgen pushed it up past speeds it had enver been designed to cope with.

..

Merciful Emperor, we were opening the distance! The incoming fire was becoming less accurate as the scuttling swarm receded slowly behind us. Emboldened, I swung the pintle-mounted bolter around and fired into the densely packed mass of seething obscenity; there was no need to aim, as I could hardly miss hitting something, but I pointed it in the genreal direciton of the largest creature I saw.

- Salamanders can be pushed to greater speeds than they are "Designed to cope with." - this is a scout variant I believe, but it might be the command one.

Page 126

The compound was in sight now, ant-like troopers lining the fortifications, and, Emperor be praised, the Hydras rumbling into position to defend them, their quad-barreled autocannon turrets depressing to face the oncoming tide of death.


The Valhallans are far enough away to look like ants.

Page 126

When, with a loud crack and a shriek of tortured metal, our howling engine fell silent. Jurgen had pushed it too far and we were about to pay for that with our lives.


One reason perhaps pushing the stuff is not good.

Page 126

The HYdras opened up, shooting past us, gouging holes in the onrushing wall of chittering death, but barely slowing it. Lasgun bolts began following suit; although the small arms fire would only be marginally effective at this range, every little helped. Return fire from the warriors was sporadic, and directed at the defenders behind the barricade rathe rthan us, the hive mind apparently deciding we weren't worth the bother of singling out.


Effective range against hte 'Nids is "marginally effective" range for a lasgun. We don't know the exact range, but less than hundreds of meters seems likely.

Page 127

Ahead of me, angling in to cut us off, wa the huge, unmistakeable bulk of the hive tyrant, accompanied by its attendant bodyguards. It hissed, opening its jaws, and I dived to one side expecting the familiar blast of bioplasma, but instead a ravening blast of pure energy detonated where I'd stood seconds before, throwing me to the ground.


Hive Tyrant attacks Cain.

Page 127

He rolled to his feet, snapping off a shot from his lasgun that exploded the thorax of another,


hormagaunt fired on by Jurgen. Hundreds of kj to shatter the torso, possibly a few MJ If we assume particulra durability (EG carapace, gristle, etc.) but we also dont know how many shots it took. IF it was a single, almost certainly a high powered one, but I'm betting on a burst of fire (but not much more than a second or two either.)


Page 127

Then suddenly the tyrant wasn't there, replaced by shreds of steaming flesh which fell almost leisurely to the sand, its attendant warriors exploding around it. One of the Hydras had rolled around the edge of its emplacement to get a clear shot, the hail of autocannon rounds taking the entire group apart at almost point blank range.

..

"Fire! Keep firing!" Mostrue's voice rang out, clear and confident from the barricades. The gunners complied enthusiastically. I swung the chainsword again, fear and desperation lending me superhuman dstrength, carving my way through the 'gaunts like so many sides of grox.


Hydra battery vs Hive Tyrant. IA4 lists the Tyrant as some 6 tons. Nid warrior is maybe a ton or so. We dont know how many shots it took, but it was delivered in seconds. Given a grenade or dynamite sized explosive can blow apart a human (roughly), and this thing is equal to many scores of such, this implies the explosive hydra shells carry quite a punch.
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The last of Crucible of War. four short stories. One Nathan Creed IIRc, one Uriel Ventris in a Space hulk, and one involving a freighter dealing with cultists. Oh yeah and a Doom Eagle sGrimdark Space Marine training short story.

Page 134
"Every male of age thirteen to be present at Table City upon the thirteenth day of the thirteenth lunar month of every year. By Imperial command."

Every year the same: the gliders would come to Kultoom and collect the youths. And sometimes, once in every decade, not all of them would return.

Inducted into the Imperial Navy, the rumour went.
Or sent as cannon fodder to fight the orks.
Or offered as a sacrifice to the Emperor's glory.
Or any one of a thousand different possibilities, all of them rich with uncertainty and legend.
As it turns out, they're inducted into the Space MArines. When it comes to tithing, I'm pretty sure they tend to look for alot older than 13. THe Astartes are a different story of course.

Page 134
The murmuring of thousands of youths arose throughout the chambers, a choir of fear and uncertainty.
A tithe of "thousands". Remember this for it becomes important later.


Page 135
They knelt in a line of some thirty youths - those dragged form the building in the skyport, Ica supposed on a rocky plateau.

..

Somewhere down there, Ica thought, is Table City, where thousands of bewildered youths are climbing back aboard gliders for the journey home..
Again "thousands", and groups of thirty.

Page 138
..and the ghostly vessel swept past in a multicoloured broadside, unleshing colossal energies in an actinic torpedo volley that punched gaping mouths into the blast shields, and a hundred thousand human ants wordlessly shrieked the last of their oxygen into the void....

..

...and on a million worlds a trillion humans sank to their knees and nothing would ever be the same again.
Some sort of psychic grimdarkery by the Doom Eagles Librarians as part of the training process. You know, DOOM. Implied 100,000 passenger (or crew) ship and the 'million/trillion' imperium bit.

Page 144
In one cavern a firestorm of shrapnel and smoke burst from some hidden aclove among the stalactites, reacting to the unblinking red eye of a motion sensor embedded in one wall. Some of the adolesecents lurked at the room's entrance, dividing their terrified glances between the rising water behind and that glarying ruby light, choosing who would live and who would die. Others rushed by, ducking and dodging. Their flesh and bone was dissolved in the resulting whirlwind of metal, screams ripped away in a rush of smoke and dust. A few - those who neither hesitated nor rushed - made it through.
Motion sensor triggered flechette/frag traps. I actually posted it for this bit, but the passage probably deserves some more elaboration for the Grimdark. See, these thousands of youths got recruited to be tested by the Doom Eagles to find potential Space Marine recruits. What they do is run these kids through what amounts to the Obstacle Course of Death - boiling steam, raging lava, exploding traps, etc. And end up slaughtering most of them in the process to find recruits. That pretty much is the whole story. GRimdark DOOM. At the end, only one recruit is chosen as well, so even more grimdark. So for the Doom Eagles you get one recruit or so for every thousands.

Page 182
Antrobus Vetch wasn't an imposing man physically. He was tiny, well under two metres tall, with spindly limbs and a head that seemed slightly overlarge in proportion to the rest of his body.
"Well under two metres" is not considered "imposing" and "tiny" on this planet at least. Of course, there's a pretty wide range of possibilities there, but it makes a diff (well under 1.8 meters for example) The choice of 2 metres as a benchmark seems interesting from some angle, since by real life standards a 2 meter tall guy would be well.. INSANELY tall.

Page 184
In a series of small explosions the photon flash flare grenades detonated. The effect was that of three small suns going supernova in the centre of the compound, bathing the treatment plant and the Delaques in blinding white light.

Photo-visor in place, Nathan Creed - downhive desperado, hired gun and sharp-shooting bounty hunter - grabbed the chain links of the fence in front of him and started to climb.
Necromunda, since we've got Delqaues. Note the bounty hunter using a photo visor, since Necromunda despite being a raving hell hole is a high tech raving hellhole, even in the underhive.

Page 184
A third shot shattered the padlock holding the gates shut.
Creed's stub gun. Whether this is impressive or not.. *shrug*

Page 185

- an underhive surgeon and "scientist". As noted in Fleshworks the underhive tends not to be a place where AdMech dogma takes root, save in very exceptional places. (Then again its not considered an especially high technology place either.)

Were such folk swept up in tithing for the Guard or Navy, I imagine these skills would find some use. Such organizations are filled with unoffficial "technical" types.

Page 187
The procedure had a near legendary status among the medical practitioners of the Underhive. The process was complicated but basically involved extracting, and then purifying, fluid form the brain of a subject. The resulting extract, once mixed with a cocktail of stimms, could then be injected into the brain of another, giving the receiver the original subject's memories. It was rumoured that some uphive nobles utilised the process to relive the thrill of exciting, dangeorus, or even life-threatening experiences without ever leaving the safety of the spire. Assuming the operation was successful, the only side-effect of a brain drain for the subject whas that it left them with large gaps in their memory. Those who injected the cerebral fluid of others into their own brains faced the prospect of a crippling addiction, culminating in a total loss of their own identity as the memories of others fractured their minds into a myraid of split personalities.
- Mention of a procedure that allows one human to extract certain brain fluids (god that sounds cheesy) and inject them into another. This process is supposed to transfer and implant memories from one person to another (Necromundan nobles are mentioned to use it to acquire experiences without risk, especially dangerous/exciting ones.)

Sounds goofy as well as cheesy, and I am betting you could probably do it better with a mind-impulse link. or via a psyker.

A mentioned side effect of the process is that the donor (or victim) is left with large gaps in their memory (if successful, so it seems there is an element of danger to the whole
process.)

Page 189
It was they who had sold him the information about Antrobus Vetch's operation to bring an ork into Hive Primus for Lord Helmwar's private zoo.

And it had been Haze who had leaked the same information to the authorities, forcing VEtch to dump the illegal alien in the Underhive.
Haze had planned to study the ork's regenerative abilities so that he might apply them to his own surgical skills, making his services invaluable to any Underhive gang.
the bit about studying Ork physiology to benefit human medicine aside, I do wonder how an(other) ork dumped into Necromunda, especially the underhive, survives. Hell by this point I'm sure Orks make up a substantial part of the unique Ecosystem that is the Underhive anyhow.

Page 192
The explosive bark of Creed's point-six-six calibre stub guns and the wild rattling chatter of the scummers, autopistols was joined by a chugging roar as the servitor, it smteal feet planted squarely on the ground, opened fire with its autocannon attachment mounted on the grotesuqely overlarge robotic right arm.
- mention here of "point six-six calibre" stub guns, revolvers - works out to around 16-17mm diameter bullets I think. Almost as big as bolter rounds. Recoil must be insane.

Page 193
The taller of the two scum had stupidly stuck his head around the side of a pillar to assess the situation only to have it blown off by a bolter shell.
Predictable effect of a bolt shell.

Page 197
Creed increased the pressure on his trigger fingers. Siuddenly he gave a yelp of pain and let go of both guns. Creed looked down at the palms of his hands. Both were covered in large red weals and blistering skin, which stung like a milliasaur bite. Inexplicably in a matter of seconds the metal of the stubbers had become white-hot, as if they had been heated in a furnace.
Effect of a psykokinetic attack. disregarding artwork exaggerations for weapon size and assume the guns weigh several kilos together (2-3 kg seems right for large bore revolvers) and around 1400K (per here) and made of iron and a starting temp of 300K - it would require 1-2 MJ (roughly) being dumped into the guns within those "seconds". This is not a particularily STRONG psyker by 40K standards mind (unsanctioned).

Page 199
"You know what some tech-biologis believe about that part of the brain?"

..

Its popularly held in scientific circles that the cerebellum is the source of psychic powers"


"Wyrds." The bounty hunter said with a scowl.

"Exactly", Haze confirmed. "Only in some people these powers lie dormant in their subconscious. In most cases these powers never reveal thmselves, but then in others some catalyst awakens those latent powers - the onset of adolescence, a sharp blow to the head - "

"Having a bullet pushed into your brain by some lunatic surgeon?"

..

"And how do these powers manifest themselves?" Creed pressed

Some psykers can control others by willpower alone, others can move objects physically with their minds and some can manipulate the molecules in objects or even the air around them to heat them to boiling or melting point."
Confirmation about the level of power of the psyker (Wyrds are rather low level unsanctioned psykers.) Plus a bit of exposition that may provide hints as to the nature and origin of psychic behaviour and how it works with the link to the warp. Note no mention of the warp per se, but other abilities re mentioned.

Page 200-201
Mander immediately turned his piercing gaze on the running bounty hunter. Creed was sure he could see distant fires, burning like cold stars within the pyros' unblinking eyes. Creed faltered, feeling his whole body flush with heat, as if he had run five kilometres rather than five metres. He blinked as sweat ran into his eyes.

Putting a hand to the slick-wet skin of his forehead, he wiped the sweat from above his eyes. His brow felt like it was burning up as his body temperature soared. It was as if he was suffering from the worst case of sewer-swamp fever ever recorded. He could feel his soaking undershirt clinging to his back. Then he realised that even his bandages were becoming damp as sweat ran down his arms. He began to feel dizzy as the unbearable heat threatened to overcome him.

..

Turning, through sweat-blurred eyes Creed saw Doc Haze's horrified face mere metres away. Forcing his legs to move, overheating muscles protesting bitterly, the bounty hunter staggered foward, bundling the panicking scientiest in front of him. His head spinning, Creed saw the black ellipse of an open shaft ahead of them. As they closed the distance between themselves and the hole, Creed heard the sound of running water growing ever louder over the pounding of his own heart. At the same moment the smell of scorched leather assaulted his nostrils.

Looking down at his coat as he ran, Creed could see smoke rising from the battered material. With a whoomph the flapping coat tails burst into flame. Without a moment's hesitation the bounty hunter pulled the coat off and lfung it aside, losing his hat at the same time. Then the black gulf was before them and, shoving the doc ahead of him, Creed halfp jumped and half fell in the cold, enveloping darkness.

He hit the fast-flowing stream next to the dazed doc and a cloud of steam rose from the water around him. AT once Creed could feel his body temperature dropping to a more healthy level.

- the Necromundan pyro-psyker is able to (in a matter of seconds) raise the internal body temp of a person to fever point, but seems to have mcuh trouble beyond there (this may suggest that the body won't "combust" until its evenly heated, or a limitation of the psyker.) It actually does not take much of a temperature change in the body to do this by the Celsisu scale - 36-37C is normal, and anything over 40C is fatal, so we're talking less than a 5-10degree change. Even for a burly human (70-80 kg) and given a specific heat of the human body of around 3-3.5 KJ per kg*C we aren't talking a huge amount of energy - a few MJ over a matter of seconds again (if even that) could achieve it. It does set some nice lower limits on Psyker abilities.


Page 204
He could try and take Mander now: he was sure he could beat him in a fistfight, despite the pyro's obvious upper body strength. But would he be able to reach Mander before he cooked form the inside out?"
Earlier its mentioned the pyro is 10 metres away. I doubt his body had wholly recovered yet but even if literal "cooking" does not require a huge increase in temp, we'd still be talking single digit MJ over a short period of time in all probability.


Page 213
A few small spacecraft, mostly private merchant clippers, sat squat and silent, their hulls softly lit up orange by the sodium lamps that battled valiantly against the deepening dark. These ships, although large, were dwarfed by the vessel Drant looked out from. Guild freighter Sable Bess, nearly a kilometre from stubby snout to square cut fins, loomed up massively. Her holds were laden with military supplies destined for the Imperial Guard, and she patiently waited for departure at dawn.
- a "Guild freighter" of some kind is described as being nearly a kilometre long. "Private merchant clippers" mentioned are stated as being large, but smaller than the Guild freighter.

The freighter is also warp-capable, it shoudl be noted, and yet it can land on a planet. Its a bit crazy to have ships that big able to land on planets though (It was in the Star Wars prequels) - a good guess they use some sort of anti-gravity or reactionless "support" to support the ship when "landed"

Were I to guess he'd be some inter-sector Free Trader type.

Page 216-217
After a successful launch, with the planet Vrantis III receding into nothing more than a bright light behind her, the Sable Bess began preparations for the warp jump. Her decks were alive with activity as the crew busied themselves with maintenance and routine duties. Captain Matteus found Drant outside the infirmary.

"All well?" he asked.

Drant eyed him darkly. "Well enough. They're in hold one-forty."

..


"One minute," Eusoph sapped over the bridge-vox. "Be Ready."
The ship reaches its warp jump point (an unknown distance, but far enough away for the planet to be no longer visible) in a presumably short period of time (long enough for the refugees to be placed in a hold, and for the captain to check in with this and get to the bridge.) Less than a day, possibly less than 8-12 hours, given the lack of sleep and meals.

Page 218
A mass of cables and wires extruded from the mummified creature's face, linking him to the ship's navigation equipment and the engine servitors below decks..
Our Navigator. Note the apparent mind impulse links connecting him throughout the ship. Seen in a number of sources (FArseer, etc.)

Page 218
A deep booming throb began to seep up from the decks below, as the power unleashed from the wap core in the bowels of the ship was distributed to the engines themselves: the Machine God was awake.
Self explanatory. those silly AdMechs! But then again its often hinted a STarship has some level of sentience like a Titan does or a Land raider can, so maybe its not so surprising. I think i twould mean machine spirit though.

Page 219
The reserve navigator, curled up in his cot in a recess in the bulkhead and lost in a deep slumber, trwitched and whimpered.
they have a reserve navigator. Despite how beat up they look they must be pretty successful or important.

Page 219
For centuries the Sable Bess had been a tanker until she was downgraded to a dry freight vessel. She was now consigned to an easy routine, supplying non-essentials manufactured on Vrantis III to the Imperial Guard garrison on Jared's World, deep inside Imperium controlled space.
Guess I spoke too soon.

Page 224
..I want all tech-priests testing warding beacons and protective veins. Get them praying to their blasted Machine God...
"warding beacons" and "protective veins" - force field and physical defences against the warp apparently.

Page 228

- The ship's navigator had been sealed in his chamber for decades.

Page 229
For a moment the navigator was silent, probing the ship and the space around it with his sensitive psychic sense.
Navigator can use his psychic senses as a sensor, at least in local terms. This is seen in the Rogue Trader RPG as well.

Page 233
She spat an ugly command and the giant was lifted clean off his feet and hurled bodily out of the door as if he were rag doll tossed aside by a bored child. He smashed into the corridor wall, rupturing pipes.
a particularily large and burly (Bragg like perhaps) naval crewer, knocked about by warp TK.

Page 234
She uttered something and they were catapulted into the ceiling, skulls impacting with wet thuds. She held them there, then let them drop to the deck like unstrung puppets.
Two security ratings this time.

Page 238
The stacatto rattle of an autogun broke his reverie.

..

He emptied the magazine then wielded the gun like a club..
..

It fell over, crashing into a gantry rail, blood oozing from a dozen wounds.

- use of an autogun onboard a starship. Probably firing low velocity/high-mass bullets. Has a capacit yo fat least 12 rounds possibly (20-30 rounds possibly?) Also built like an OGryn ripper gun, it would seem.

Page 239
The shuttle was built to take the full crew complement of one hundred and forty five men. A tally revealed twleve left, including him.
Escape shuttle. Mentioned as being capable of carrying away the ship's entire crew complement of 145 crew for a 1 km long ship. Must be highly automated, or just that not being a warship its crew demands aren't that high.

Page 242
He had not slept in six days, his time on Macragge as full as he could ever remember it being. The majority of this time had been spent reorganizing the Fourth Company after the Pavonis expedition and inducting its newest members from the reserve companies, but he had made sure to set aside time for this work in the Artificers' forge chambers.
Ventris can go without sleep for six days, at least not when involved in strenuous activity (Then again he's also outside his armour.) The events of this story also take place (Chronologically) after Nightbringer, I believe.

Page 242
Upon his return from Pavonis he had immediately cast the metal icon taken from the Nightbringer's tomb into the deepest vault below the Fortress of Hera. Once removed from the Ctan's tomb, the metal had become utterly inert, dead to every form of auspex. Techmanne Harkus had at his disposal. It was resistant to every weapon, furnace heat or any other form of attack and resembled nothing so much as a simple piece of carved silver. With the disappearance of its diabolical master, it had become just a simple trophy of war. But such an artefact was too dangerous to be allowed to remain unguarded and sealed away forever in the depths of the Fortress of Hera, it was as secure as anything could be.
Confirmation of my earlier assessment of timeframe. We learn of the fate of the Nightbringer device (future plot point.) and a comment on just how indestructable it is.

Page 244
The Artificers had metriculators for measuring the exact line of a blade, but Uriel preferred the honest feel of a blade worked by hand and eye.
metriculators used as rulers or levels in fabircation. Uriel is much better than that of course. :P

Page 245d
The blade glowed a fierce red-orange and Uriel knew it was ready. He plunged it into a trough of water and oil, steam hissing angrily from the cooling metal.
He pulled the sword from the water and smiled as he turned his gaze to a velvet wrapped object on his workbench. As the sword blade cooled, he unwrapped the bundle, revealing the golden sword hilt that had once held the blade of Captain Idaeus's power sword. As he began the tempering process, he nodded to himself as he felt his former captain's silent approval. The hilt had remained in the Chapter's reliquary until Marneus Calgar, lord of the Ultramarines, had presented it to him as a mark of respect for his success on Pavonis. Uriel no longer needed the sword of his former captain to symbolize his authority over the Fourth Company, but Calgar had understood that Uriel well deserved to carry such a precious relic of the Ultramarines.
By morning he would have the weapon finished, its blade polished and sharp. Then he would take it to the chapel of the venerable Chaplain Cassius and have it anointed with clear water he had collected from the pool at the base of Hera's Falls, at the end of the Valley of Laponis. The Chaplain would sanctify the blade and entreat the spirits of war and battle to impart a measure of their wrath within the weapon.
Uriel forging the blade for his power weapon. Its unlikely to be "mono molecualr" or as nasty as the blade on your typical Marine combat knife, but since it sa power weapon that probably doesn't matter as much unless the powerfield (or Uriel's character shield) fails.

Page 246
Rusted iron girders formed a tangled lattice across the ice and steel, crude, airtight iron boxes bolted to the ice and rock in a jumble of metal. The hulk was perhaps seven kilometres in length, spinning pieces of debris rippling from the ungainly structures like entrails from a torn belly. In a way, the orkish engineering was a marvel of unwitting skill, luck and blind lunacy, though no member of the Adeptus Mechanicus would ever admit to such a thing.
Space Hulk described as being "seven kilometers" long.

Page 246
Its age was impossible to divinate with any degree of certainty. Perhaps it had plied the depths of space for tens of thousands of years before the orks had discovered it - or it had discovered them. Quite how such barbaric and warlike savages had the wherewithal to even get into space, let alone commandeer something so inherently dangerous, was a mystery that continued to baffle the priests of the Machine God. That the orks had ever managed to get their monstrously deformed contraptions space-worthy defied their every theorem.
Regardless of such apparent impossibility, once the orks deemed the hulk ready, it would be crammed full of warriors, with a vast power field bubble trapping the necessary oxygen and then hurled through space on a random course through the stars.
The hulk would ply the depths of space for an indeterminate time, sometimes dropping into the fluid medium of warp space as the ebb and flow of long-forgotten power sources surged and hurled the craft through the galaxy. Where and when such ships would emerge back into real-space - if they ever did - was a mystery to which no one could predict the answer.
If the orks were fortunate, the hulk would emerge in an inhabited system and if they were even luckier, crash on an inhabited planet. The strongest warlord who survived the crash landing would emerge to lead the others in an ork crusade known as a Waaagh!
To say it was a haphazard form of travel was an understatement of colossal proportions.
More general space hulk fluff. Not much to point out really.

Page 247
As it crossed the orbital path of Barbarus Prime, the ninth planet of the Tarsis Ultra system, a ship with crenellated weapon turrets and a cathedral-like command section emerged from the corona of the system's star and moved gracefully into a shadowing position. Beside her, the three smaller vessels of Arx Praetora squadron gathered in her shadow, ready to defend her against any attack.
The Ultramarines task force was hiding in the corona of a tar waiting for the space hulk. Note that we're in Tarsis Ultra. This would seem to be a transition story between Nightbringer and Warriors of Ultramar.

Page 247
"Philotas, do you have a firing solution locked in on the close-in surveyors yet?"
"Yes, sir," answered Philotas. "Shall I order battle stations?"
Astartes strike cruiser (and presumably escorts) use sensor assited targeting. Since Astartes ships run heavily on servitors.. probably no shock.

Page 247
"It's not travelling under its own power and it's a big one, that's for sure. It's no wonder the Tarsis Ultra system defence ships couldn't handle it. As to its course, it appears to be heading roughly towards the planet Chordelis. On its present heading it should pass out of the system without incident."
The Tarsis ultra system defence ships cannot demolish (easily) a 7 km long Space Hulk before it reaches the planet.

Page 248
"How did it arrive in system? A jump, or did it just drift in?"
"It just drifted in," said Philotas. "It appeared on the outer rim surveyors about five months ago, coming from below the galactic plane, but they are unmanned and the hulk did not pass close enough for a pict-capture. However, it passed dose enough to listening post Trajen for the adepts there to get a more precise fix on its position."
Outer rim surveyors. . part of the security setup of Tarsis Ultra. (listening posts, beacons, satellites and probes, etc.)

Page 248
"Can they estimate where it came from?"
"The senior magos believes it came from the regions of space we know to be controlled by an ork warlord known as the Arch Fiend of Octarius," replied Philotas
They manage to predict the possible origins of the Space Hulk. How they did (aside from technical means) we aren't specifically told.

Page 248
"Segmentum command at Bakka has issued several warnings of increased incidences of ork migrations from the realm of the Arch Fiend, but the strategos feel they are too fragmentary and disparate to be an invasion, and I agree."
Segmentum-scale command keeps track of large scale ork activity. Makes sense. The main purpose of "higher command" in 40K is for long term and strategic goals, while the tactical stuff is handled at the smaller level.

Page 248
"Aye," said Tiberus pointing at a fluctuating set of numerals at the side of the display, "but I do not think they will be alive. The mass readings look about right, but the mean internal temperature is probably too low and there does not appear to be enough interior oxygen voids for anything to survive - even orks. I think we are just looking at something that has split from an even larger ship, but we need to know for sure"
The Strike cruiser manages to scan the inside of the hulk.

Page 249
"Range to target?"
"Nine thousand kilometres, lord admiral."
- Space Marine Strike cruiser Vae Victus is 9,000 km from the Space Hulk at this point (and within weapons range.) Considering the ranges demonstrated in Nightbringer by Vae Victus, this isn't a great shock. It also hints that (with some time or effort) they could destroy the Space Hulk before it reaches the planet.

Page 250
Even now, almost a year after the Pavonis expedition, Uriel found it hard to adjust to the idea of Pasanius having a bionic replacement for the limb he had lost fighting the Nightbringer thousands of metres below the planet's surface. The arm shone like silver, its surface smooth and brilliantly reflective. Truly the artificers of Pavonis had excelled themselves.
- mentioned here that the battle between the Nightbringe rand Ultramarines as described in the Nightbringer novel took place "thousands of metreS" below the surface of the planet and being a year ago.

Note the Necrodermis covered augmetic.

Page 254
Uriel disconnected his backpack from the gunship's own air tanks and sealed the valve, whispering the prayer of thanks to his armour's spirit as an icon flashed up on his visor, indicating that its integrity was intact. He checked that the air level in his armour's tanks was full and watched as his warriors followed suit.
Armor visor, and internal air tanks that connect to the gunship's own air supply.

Page 257
The walls were scorched black, pocked with fist-sized craters and Uriel knew immediately that they were weapon impacts; too large for most small arms fire and too shallow for heavy weapons.

Human ones at least.

He'd fought orks often enought o know that their weapons were easily capable of these kinds of impacts and opened a channel on the vox.
Damage Ork weapons can cause - they're also recognizable. Ork weapons implied to be more destructive than (normal) human weapons.

Page 257
"How far to the first waypoint?" asked Uriel.
Flavian consulted the auspex, scrolling through the display and said, "Two hundred metres, brother-captain. Along this corridor and right."
- Space MArine auspex onboard the hulk has a range of at least 200 metres. at least to waypoints. This may be a mapping function however, as its known that they can do that.

Page 258
Ahead, the corridor widened into a high ceilinged chamber of blue ice and swirling mist. Glittering shards of ice tumbled lazily through the air, catching the light from his armour's illuminator. Sparkling like miniature suns, Uriel realised that the crystals were floating in a zero-gravity environment. Whatever arcane devices or alien archaeotech had kept gravity functioning in other portions of the hulk was plainly not at work here.
"There is an area of weightlessness ahead," he voxed to the rest of his squad. "Engage boot magnets and switch to auto-senses; there is a great deal of airborne debris."
He stepped onwards, feeling the powerful grip his boots now had on the mesh of the deck beneath him. As he entered the chamber, he felt a lurch in his stomach as he suddenly became weightless. There had been no gradual change in environment, simply a switching from one state to another. Ice brushed against him and a spinning bar of metal rang against his thigh armour. His grip on the deck did not feel as secure as he would have liked, the thick ice on the floor preventing the magnetized soles of his boots from gaining a better purchase.
"Be on your guard, the ice is distorting my auto-senses. Pasanius, clear us a path through this mist."
- Ultramarines boots have magnets on them for adhering to surfaces in zero gee.

Page 258
"Aye, captain," said Pasanius, hefting his bulky flamer unit as easily as another Space Marine might carry a boltgun. The veteran sergeant unleashed a whooshing tongue of flame into the mist, a hiss of ice flashing to steam and liquid droplets exploded away from the fires.
But rather than simply dissipating, the liquid promethium rolled in the air, miniature infernos spinning through the chamber as the fire revelled in the sensation of weightlessness. Removed from the tyranny of gravity, the flames slid like liquid through the air, rippling in strangely lifelike ways. Adhering to icy pieces of tumbling refuse, the splintered fire lit the chamber with the glow of a million dancing fireflies.
Space Marine flamer. Not really calable.

Page 259
The huge body before him was frozen utterly solid, its wide fanged mouth twisted in a last roar of aggression. Its torso was ripped open in a dozen places and glistening entrails, frozen as they spilled from its belly, coiled around its meaty fists.
"It froze to death while trying to push its guts back inside," said Pasanius.
Uriel nodded. "And I just bet it would have survived had the cold not killed it. Obviously the chamber froze before the gravity failed"
- mention of an Ork probably surviving having its torso eviscerated and entrails pulled out.

Page 260
URIEL PANNED HIS shoulder-mounted illuminator around the columned chamber, noting the reading of his heartbeat in the lower left corner of his visor display. Higher than normal, he saw, though he wasn't surprised. This place was damned, cursed, and reeked of death"
- Ultramarine visor displays have a heartbeat monitor. Presumably they monitor other life signs and functions as well.

Page 263
Uriel slung his bolter and drew his power sword as a massive, iron-jawed ork charged him, swinging a gigantic cleaver with a howling chainsaw blade. Thick sheets of metal were strapped over its shoulders and chest and Uriel leapt to meet the ork, lunging for its unprotected midriff. His sword plunged effortlessly through its flesh, sliding dear with a burning hiss.
The beast roared and bellowed something incomprehensible before swinging its cleaver at his head. Uriel almost failed to dodge, such was his surprise at the beast still being alive. He knew orks could withstand terrible damage, but he had practically cut this one in two!
- Uriel is astonished that an Ork could survive a sword cut from his power sword that "nearly cut it in two."

Page 264
In the midst of the furious combat, Uriel saw a hulking ork with a massive, piston-driven claw powering his way through the Ultramarines. Blue-armoured bodies were hurled through the air by the ork, black smoke belching from its rusted weapon and a bellowing roar of fury echoing from the walls.
Armoured in rusted plates of metal that would have taken four strong men to lift, the ork was a powerhouse of primal brutality. Thick, corded muscles bulged on its upper limbs and great slabs of meat layered its chest. A black, horned helm crowned a monstrous, scarred face and burning red eyes. Viscous spittle sprayed from between yellowed tusks, each the length of Uriel's forearm. Bigger than all the others, Uriel knew it must be the war-leader of this particular band of orks and pushed his way through the melee towards it.
Described as the "war leader" of this particular band. Naturally Uriel takes it on personally.

Page 265
He lunged and thrust his sword into the ork's chest. The blade hissed as it penetrated the sheets of iron and the stench of charred alien flesh assailed him.
Power sword with field on penetrates iron plate armor around Orks body and burns the flesh.

Page 266
Uriel did not give the wounded beast time to recover, stepping close and hacking at its flesh like a butcher. Each blow sheared slabs of alien flesh from his foe and even after the brutish monster fell dead at his feet, he chopped in a killing frenzy until the ork was little more than sizzling chunks of scorched meat.
Again, Uriel's power sword has little trouble cutting through the Ork armor and burning its flesh.

Page 267
"Brother-Captain, this is where your power blade cut the xenos. As you can see, the edges of the wound are smooth and cauterised from the heat of your weapon."
The Apothecary then rolled the ork onto its side and pointed to a wound running from its left shoulder to the base of its ribs on the right hand side of its torso.
"So what are we looking at here, Selenus?" asked Pasanius.
"The blow that caused this wound cut through the creature's armour plating on its shoulders and sheared through the thickly ossified bone of its ribs with something incredibly sharp."
"Another power weapon?" suggested PAsanius.
Selenus shook his head. "No, the edges of this wound have not sealed or been seareed as the wounds on its front have been. This was done by something so sharp it was able to cut through iron and ork flesh with almost no effort at all."
Power weapons cauterize and emit heat.

They later note it was a genestealer blade, and that it is sharper than a power weapon (or Uriel's at least) without using heat.

Ork warleader is described as having "thickly ossified bones" in its ribs.

Page 272
A crackling voice that Uriel recognized as belonging to Learchus said, "Brother-Captain, our auspex reads that we are less than three kilometres from your current position. We can come to your assistance."
"No," ordered Uriel, "continue on towards your evacuation point."
Range of auspex readers. Presumably the other Marines have beacons to help, but they'd be obscured by the hulk's mass as well.

Page 277
Each boxy device was fitted with six kilos of a high explosive compound developed specifically for the destruction of space huulks.

The demolition charges had a wide blast area, and the destructive power unleashed within that area an order of magnitude greater than almost any other explosive of similar size
The timer mechanisms had all been calibrated from a single master unit aboard the Vae Victus and thus every single bomb detonated within a nanosecond of each other.
Coordinated detonation. note that this is a "high explosive compound" designed specificialyl for destroying space hulks and that the destructive power unleashed was "an order of magnitude greater" than any explosive of similar size. Six kilos is not alot of explosive, but note this for comment later.

Page 278
As each bomb exploded it instantly vaporised an area one hundred metres in diameter with a huge, reverberating thunderclap.
The sounds of the massive explosions spread throughout the hulk, and positioned throughout the ship at key structural points, the effects were devastating.
Agglomerated structures tore free from the hulk's side as their supports were blasted clear, ripping gantries and beams with them. All across the Death of Virtue, the structural integrity of the hulk collapsed at an exponential rate as the explosive echoes died.
The explosion from each demolition charge roared into a seething ball of plasma energy, burning with the heat of a star. Those charges closer to the centre of the hulk, where the internal gravity field was strongest, dropped through the deck, turning the core of the hulk molten as they fell.
I think its pretty safe to say that "high explosive" in this case means "weird plasma ball thingy" - some sort of "plasma explosive" of the Ben Counter persuasion. I dont think we can treat it as a conventional nuclear explosion, since it seems to be a self sustaining event and dense enough gravity can acutally pull it down.

It's hard to pin down precise calcs for this one, simply because theres alot of assumption involved in any way it could possibly be done. One could assume a 100 meter diameter sphere of the hulk was vaporized but we dont know the internals and (as someone will object) vaporize may not be taken literally (though in this case I'm inclined to do so, since in context it sounds like the creation of a plasma/fireball sphere.) If we assumed a 100 m diameter sphere 99% empty space and 1% iron it would be around ~300 TJ. That places it around the yield of "nuclear" explosives per kg I think, within an OoM (with some allowance for better if we assumed the best 40k Had was just nukes. Which isn't the case.) If it were a 100 m diameter nuclear fireball (which it isn't) it would be just a few kilotons, but that has the aformentioned (gravity affected glob of plasma) problems. If we assumed it was a sphere of high temperature gas (and ignored how it was contained) we might get into double or triple digit TJ (assuming around 1-10 thousand K temp, though getting to millions would be higher) again, but it's again not a normal plasma.

"heat of a star" does not help in this case since "heat" while technically a kind of energy can vary according to context (and could refer to temp, total energy, or any number of possibilities.) Nevermind that it would also imply gigatons or teratons or petatons of energy out of 6 kg of explosive. Possibly works on the low end (gigatons only) but that's even a bit outlandish for my calcs if we go with anything on the TT/PT end, and its still hinging on a nebulous interpretation on this case, so w ecan't rely on that.

If we based it on the Sin of Damnation bit from Space hulk first edition (300 560 GT torpedoes) it might take 168 TT to destroy the hulk. we know its a 7 km diameter hulk and each explosion was 100 m diameter.. upwards of 2,000 tons of explosive would be needed to match that, and it would work out to 84 MT per kg. I'll leave that up to personal interpretation as to how plausible/insane that is, given I've outlined my mindset on 40K energy generation (and will be elaborating on it in the future) - basically its a possibility, but it involves magictch to make work. The problem with tihs calc in any case is that we dont know if the SoD is anywhere near like this hulk in size or composition, hulks can be too variable for this to work, and aren't inert sturctures as a rule in any case (they've been blown up deliberately in the past by internal detonations) and ther eis the whole "inertnal vs external desturction" bit too.

So we're left with alot of possibilities and hints, but nothing really definite other than "its some weird 40K plasma like stuff explosion 10x better than anything the Imperium has elsewise which may or may not include nuclear explosives like was mentioned in space fleet.") and nothign else.

Page 280
The Thunderhawk's landing gear was up, but Uriel saw the forward ramp was still lowered. The heavy bolters mounted on either side of the gunship's frontal section roared, the noise deafening as heavy calibre shells ripped up the chamber. Genestealers, ice and steel disintegrated under the devastating fusillade as the pilot swung the nose of the gunship left and right.
Heavy bolters vs various materials.

Page 281
But then the genestealer's head exploded as bolter shells ripped it from its body. Blood and brains spilled over Uriel's armour and he threw the creature's corpse aside in disgust.
Multiple bolter rounds blow apart a genestealer head. We dont know how many though.
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