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40K "what Price victory" anthology discussion thread

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Another anthology book yep. almost done with the singles then its Let the Galaxy Burn, then I take a break from Anthologies.

First up an Eisenhorn short story about a chaos cult they deal with in the Ravenor trilogy (sort of a prequel) and is featured in the second story. Then a random one about Tribal PDF vs Necrons, and a third called Elucidium, involving a 'hive' world, genestealersm lots of chaos, and Inquisitors. That one will be cut off in the middle of, continued in the second update.

Page 11-12
Kys was telekinetic She focused her trained mind and exerted a little pressure The quartz rocks scattered apart across the slime, revealing a rather surprised man holding an autorifle.
His surprise lasted about two seconds until a single shot from Nayl hit him in the brow and tumbled him leadenly onto his back.
With a spiteful grin, Kys reached out again and dragged another of the hostiles out into the open with her mind. The man yelled aloud, scared and uncomprehending. His heels churned in the ooze and he flailed his arms, fighting the invisible force that yanked him by the scruff of the neck.
Patience Kys telekinetic skills manage to clear away the cover a guy is using enabling Nayl to shoot him, whilst pulling another guy out with her mind. And she isn't, as far as I know, technically considered a psyker. Probably more of a Wyrd (too weak and/or specialised to have much risk of daemonic incursion.)

Then again we never really see much of her explained. She could be a highly specialized sanctioned psyker as well.

Page 12

There was a blurt of noise like an industrial hammer--drill, and the man ceased to be, shredded into pieces by heavy fire.
Mathuin had shot him. His left hand was a bumished-chrome augmetic, and he had locked it into the governing socket of the lethal rotator cannon that he was wearing strapped around his torso. The multi-barrels whirred and cycled, venting vapour.
Mathuin's rotator cannon. Smaller than the Terminator assault cannon (and less powerful, understandably.)

Page 13
The Divine Fratery practises a barbaric initiation process of voluntary blinding. Sight, as one might expect, is considered their fundamental skill, but not sight as we might understand it. Novices sacrifice one of their eyes as proof of their intent, and have that missing eye replaced by a simple augmetic to maintain everyday function. The one remaining organic eye is then trained and developed, using ritual, alchemic and sorcerous processes.
Chaos prophets/precognitives. It does show that foresight can be pretty prevalanet.

Page 15
"If you'd left him a little more intact we might have made a more decent examination," Thonius complained.
"This is a rotator cannon" Mathuin said bluntly. "It doesn't do intact."
Thonius prodded the grisly remains with a stick. "Well, I think we've got an augmetic eye here too. And what's either an eyepatch or a very unsatisfactory posing thong."
Gatling gun weapon is similar enough to the Assault cannon in that ti messily tears stuff apart.


Page 17
High in the ruined summit of the tower, something had screamed. Loud, hideous, inhuman, drawn out. More screams, from other non-human voices, answered it. Each resounded both acoustically and psychically. The air temperature dropped sharply. Sheens of ice crackled into view, caking the upper sweep of the walls.
Side effect of psyker activity.

Page 18
The Divine Fratery, may the ordos condemn their sick souls, seek to chart out the future. All possible futures, in fact. With their mirrors and their abominably practiced eyes, they iden­tify events to come, and take special interest in those events that are ill-favoured. Disasters, plagues, invasions, collapses of governments, heresies, famines, defeats in battle. Doom, in any guise.
The masters of the Fratery then disseminate the details of their oracles to the lower orders of their cult. By my estimation, the Fratery numbers several thousand, many of them appar­ently upstanding Imperial citizens, spread through hundreds of worlds in the subsectors Antimar, Helican, Angelus and Ophidian. Once a 'prospect' as they call them has been iden­tified, certain portions of the 'cult membership' are charged with doing everything they can to ensure that it comes to pass, preferably in the worst and most damaging way possible. If a plague is foreseen, then cult members will deliberately break quarantine orders to ensure that the outbreak spreads. If the prospect is a famine, they will plant incendiary bombs or bio-toxins in the Munitorum grain stores of the threatened world. A heretic emerges? They will protect him and publish his foul lies abroad. An invasion approaches? They are the fifth column who will destroy the defenders from within.
They seek doom. They seek to undermine the fabric of our Imperium, the culture of man, and cause it to founder and fall. They seek galactic apocalypse, an age of darkness and fire, wherein their unholy masters, the Ruinous Powers, can rise up and take governance of all.
- there are "hundreds" of worlds in the Antimar, Helican, angelus and Ophidian subsectors. This is about half to nearly 1/3 the Scarus Sector, I believe. Again, note the capabilities of some fo thse Chaos groups compared to your usual rabble of crazed psychotics.

Page 19
Mathuin's rotator can­non squealed and flames danced around the spinning barrels. Stone debris and shorn ivy fluttered off the wounded walls. Kys saw a man, almost severed at the waist drop from an archway into the lighdess gulf below the bridge.
Effect (once again) of the rotator cannon.

Page 19
Kys ran in beside him. She had a laspistol harnessed at her waist, but she hadn't drawn it yet. She extended the heels of her palms, and four kineblades slipped out of the sheaths built into the forearms of her shirt. Each was thin, razor-sharp, twelve centimetres long, and lacked handles. She controlled them with her mind, orbiting them about her body in wide, buzzing circuits, in a figure of eight, like some lethal human orrery.
A hostile opened fire directly at her with an autopistol, cracking off four shots. Without flinching, she faced them, circling a pair of blades so they intercepted and deflected the first two shots. The second two she bent wide with her mind, so that they sailed off harmlessly like swatted flies.
Kys (the telekine) is using her twelve centimetre blades, and using them and her basic psychic skills to intercept gunfire (which says something about her reaction time, the amount of force she can apply an the precision with which she can place that force in order to deflect gunfire, and the fact that the kineblades dont take damage from deflecting the hsots.

Page 20
With a jerk of her mind, she tugged the kineblade out of the pinned corpse and flew it back to join the others. They whistled as they spun, deflecting more gunfire away from her. Five more hostiles lay ahead, concealed behind mouldering pillars. With a nasal grunt, she sped the kineblades away from her. They shot like guided missiles down the terraceway, arcing around obstacles, whipping around the pillars. Four of the hostiles fell, slashed open by the hurtling blades.
The fifth she yanked out of cover with her telekinesis and shot. Now, at last the gun was in her hands.
Kys in combat. Note again using her TK (while using kineblades too) to yank a guy from cover. She's got quite a bit of multitasking skill.

Page 21
Kys had just retrieved her kineblades. She held out her arms to let them slide back into her cuff-sheaths. The concentrated activity had drained her telekinetic strength, and the terrible screamlight from above had sapped her badly.
Performance wise, it was extremely draining, so the above probably represents a fair approximation of the limits of her capabilities at this time (pre Ravenor series.)


Page 22
A las-shot had just scored across the flesh of his upper arm, but he didn't even wince.
No explosive damage, either highly thermal in nature or a sort of cutting/piercing attack.

Page 25
Nayl craned his neck to look. Something blocky and heavy was striding towards them over the bridge span. It was metal and solid, machined striding limbs hissing steam from piston bearings. Its arms were folded against the sides of its torso like the wings of a flightless bird. Those arms, each one a heavy lascannon, began to cough and spit. Massive hydraulic absorbers soaked up the recoil.
The archway collapsed in a shower of exploding masonry. Nayl, Thonius and Mathuin fled back into the cover of the gallery behind.
"Emperor save me" Nayl exclaimed. "They've got a bloody dreadnought!"
the cult own a dreadnought. Where did they get a dreadnought? Part of me thinks its just a Sentinel or something similar mocked up to be a Dreadnought.

Page 26
Its pitted steel hull glossy with rain, the dreadnought machine strode in through the shattered archway.
..

Its massive cannon pods pumped pneumatically as they retched out streams of las-bolts. The weapons made sharp, barking squeals as they discharged, a repeating note louder than the storm.

..

Stone split and fractured under the bombardment. Pillars that had stood for eons teetered and collapsed like felled trees, spraying stone shards out across the terrace flooring.
Nayl, Mathuin and Thonius retreated back into the empty inner chambers of the ruined tower. Even Mathuin's rotator couldn't so much as dent the dreadnought's armour casing.
The firepower of our "Dreadnought." and it is durable enough to resist the rotator cannon.

Page 27
Mathuin reached into his coat pocket and pulled out three close-focus frag grenades. He held them like a market-seller would hold apples or ploins. It was just like Mathuin to bring a pocket full of explosives. He never felt properly dressed unless he was armed to the back teeth.
"Don't suppose you've got a mini-nuke in the other pocket?" asked Thonius.
"My other suit's at the cleaners." Mathuin replied.
"They'll have to do" said Nayl. "We'll go with what we've got."
- "close focus" frag grenades. If Ravenor's group intend to use them on a Dreadnought, they must be considerably more powerful than mere antipersonnel weapons. Then again that assumes this is a genuine dreadnought and some cheap knock off.

One wonders what the difference between these and krak grenades are. MAybe the close focus frag grenades are a sort of directional frag weapon like a claymore mine.

Thonius' comment may either be literal or figurative, so we can't rely much on that, sadly (even if we did, how much yield could a pocket sized mini nuke have? Its highly variable as well. Of course melta and plasma weapons could be considered those too..)


Page 30 - the Frag grenades have a timer of at least 4 seconds.

Page 32
Thonius's pockets were not full of munitions and ord­nance like Mathuin's, but he reached into them anyway. In one, a mini-cogitator, in another, two data-slates. In a third, a clasped leather case in which he had wrapped his tools: files, data-pins, fine brushes, tubes of lubri­cant, a vial of adhesive, pliers and tweezers. All the bric-a-brac that aided him in conquering and tinkering with cogitators and codifiers.
Thonius is the group's hacker, and this is his gear.

Page 37 - Nomadic troopers who were conscripted into the local PDF for non-payment of tithes.

Page 38
Layer by layer, in the space of a single heartbeat, the trooper's face disappeared before Drel's horrified eyes, revealing first the wet red musculature beneath the skin, then the glistening white bone of the skull itself. For a moment the skull-face stared at him with empty sockets, an idiot smile seemingly still fixed upon its lipless mouth. The exposed spine rose from the undamaged flesh of the trooper's torso as though it were no more than some unwanted suit of clothing his skeleton was ready to discard. Then, abruptly, as though realising their mistake, flesh and bone alike collapsed into a steaming pile of offal.
Necron Gauss weapons.. Beam persists for at least a noticable fraction of a second. This particular model/mode/setting incompletely "gaussifies" the target though, which is curious. Perhaps the Necrons operate their weapons on lower, power conservting settings, or these are lower performance models, or they may just be running down.

Page 38
One of their weapons fired and a trooper died an ugly death, reduced to a flailing skeleton in the blink fo an eye.
My guess is reduced settings or a different model of gauss weapon, since this is more akin to what we associate with them.

PAge 39
the creature suddenly spat out a spray of broken metal as a fist-sized hole appeared in the front of its face. It stood frozen for a moment, arms still raised, the symmetry of its death mask features abruptly ruined, as eyes like burning coals became flickering embers.
Bolt pistol damage against Necron Warrior. Isnt even an Astartes model bolt weapon either.

Page 40

- fifteen PDF troopers to take down 6 Necrons. Original odds were 30 troopers to 12 Necrons. Even though they take massive casualties this is (In my mind) a bit of a bad kill ratio for your average 'Cron. Then again as I noted who can say at the state or condition of these things.

Page 40 - Necron corpses disappear, but can leave fragments behind.

Page 47 - Acquisition of the PDF platoon and a orbital shuttle from the military. REquisitioning from a local Planetary lord is common for PDF and Guard.

Page 52
And it occured to him. What if the machien-creatures were just automata? More complex and sophisticatd than the marching guardsmen perhaps, but still machines, with all a machine's limitations. What if they were only acting according to pre-defined instructions and incapable of responding to any situation unforseen by their makers? If that were the case, it might be just the edge he needed.
Speculation on the nature of these Necron warriors. Given the behaviour of some it does make sense (although the guard analogy was hilarious.)

Page 53
But then, he saw one of the gate-guards fire its weapon, a crackling beam of energy reducing the hoarding on top of the handcart to ash. Another of the cratures fired twice more, the first beam passing harmlessly over the heads of the handcart's crew. But with the second beam the crature found its range, flaying the flesh from a screaming crewman in an instant.
Gauss weapon reducing organic material to ash this time, and skeletonizes another trooper. Oddly they don't seem to concentrate fire on the wagon at all to oblieratee that.

Page 54
It had taken everry grenade and scrap of explosive the volgars had, but Drel oculd not elp but feel satisfied as the handcart's cargo detonated, enveloping the manchine-cratures and the gate in a blinding flash of fire. He found himself even more satisfied when the smoek cleared and revealed splintered gates yawning open on broken hinges and no sign of any surviving guards.
- half platoon of feral guardsmen (15 trooper sroughly) take out 4 necron warriors using a cart loaded up with every frag grenade and explosive the troops had. The cart was light enough ot be easily pushed by 3 guardsmen. Say maybe several tens of kg of TNT probably, maybe a couple hundred if they carried extra stuff or heavy gear like demo charges (unlikely as that may be.)

Again, however, I must note that as far as Necrons go, these seem to be fairly low-quality specimens.

Page 56
It was Jarl, now his only living companion, a glimpse of white bone peering out through the ruptured flesh of his forearm where the beam of one of the Machine-creature's weapons had caught him.
A grazing shot perhaps or a different mode. Whatever the reason the gauss beam fails to reduce him to a skeleton despite the beams tendency to "spread out" on impact.


Page 57
Turning towards the relentless phalanx of approaching metal-warriors, he fired his laspistol with a scream of defiance. The las-bolts found their mark: two machine-creatures fell, then abruptly vanished. But there were so many now, marching remorselessly towards them with steps as sure and certain and inevitable as death.

..

He heard Jarl's voice and, turning, saw the sergeant throw his now emtpy pistol at the enemy and start to run towards him.
- Sergeant's laspistol takes down two Necron Warrios with multiple shots. No idea precisely how many (or the setting) but the power pack we know is drained empty shortly afterwards. Previous comments about quality apply, but even then this just means its taken down. It may not be damaged enough to prevent its return.

Page 58-61: This is a bit of a lengthy bit to explain even in parts, so I'm just going to summarize. Basically, an unknown "star god" comes to this planet and, in return for demanding they remain "strong in all things", bestows the "gift" of high technology and sleeping necron warriors on them in this temple/city. Said god also promises to return sometime in the future to judge their efforts.

To make a long story short, its said that the "greatest gift" left was a beacon that, when used, would summon the guard's servants (the necrons) in "their darkest hour." The kicker being that when summoned they don't aid those that summon them - they obliterate them because they were weak. "Strength in all things" and such, so its a punishment. And its noted that inevitably, someone would use the beacon, making the "gift" something of a cruel and ironic joke.

The star god is probably the Deceiver. This sounds like his M.O. - and the description of his statue includes a "elongated head and heavy, downward arching horns, with an elliptical groove set into the long expanse of its forehead." sounds exactly like his picture in Codex: Necrons.

Page 67
In its wisdom the Plureaucracy of the Hive Primus (Shoehorned, no doubt, by the Imperial Governor) had comissioned from the ADeptus Mechanicus a geostationary orbit-platform, its battered solar cells drawing energy from the distant sun, feeding it by means of the guide-cables into the power-hungry hivedome below. In one fell swoop the tech-priests had provided Garial-Fall with energy, a strategic weapons platform and a stardock. Only the latchcraft, with their uncomfortable descents through the cloud layer, marred the smooth running of an otherwise efficient system.
no real way to indicate power generation from this, or the size of the 'hive', but the different approach to power generation is interesting Also multi-use.

Page 68
Garial-Fall, like so many Ultima Segmentum colony worlds, owed much of its existence to the forbidden enterprise of ancient technologies. Some forgotten society - in some forgotten millenium - had erected the heatdome to protect the city within, stretching its languid camber like some glutinous bubble, ossified and pitted by time. Beneath its intricate surface, striated by chattering logic engines and grinding gears, the city clustered in a haphazard confusion of tiers and stacks, substantially warmer (although still uncomfortably cold, by human standards) than the ice wastes beyond.
The viability of many worlds in the Ipmerium (at least colonies in the Ultima segmentum) are attributed to lost-tech. Presumably only on worlds that aren't normally human habitable and don't chooes to go belowground (like Krieg, Tallarn, or Valhalla) when disaster occurs.

Page 69
..stepping aboard steam-driven elevators and dodging rattling tramways.
...
G'hait's companions regarded their environs in silence - skirting the Heatsink with its decorative gang totems, bisecting the Foildom and its well guarded excavations, passing the foundations of the towering Apex Block where the Plureaucracy met each day.
The hive has a heatsink as well. The orbital facility may be a supplementary power source. Note the steam driven technology as well.

Page 71
The power maul flared phosphor-blue, stitching a lightning-strike glare across the aley and throwing its shambling architecture, its detirtus-strewn base and its pair of occupants into sharp relief. Shadows crawled across walls, flickering in time iwth the mace's irregular current.

It arced vertically, dragging the shadows with it, and when it connected with the crumpled figure's skull it sizzled sharply, spitting a bright fountain of sparks and detonating the shrieking head like a ripe fruit. Fragments of splintered bone and gobbets of brain matter sheared outwards, pooling and mixing with a thick soup of cranial fluids.
Effect of a power maul can fragment skulls (at least on a lethal setting.) Seems semi-explosive.

Page 71
The man glanced at an auspex display mounted on his wrist and swore.

..

"I'm running late. Got an appointment with the Plureaucracy."
"auspex" which seems to be able to function like a watch. I should note the guy mentioned is the local head of the Enforcers (PDF equivalent of Arbites.)

Page 77
"Oh, archmagus, I assure you.. had I the inclination I could eavesdrop on your conversation from orbit"
Psychic observation range of a magus/inquisitor, supposedly (Yes I'm spoiling the story, but he's a freaking inquisitor as we learn.)

Page 78
The air surged around her, a shivering blast of psionic disruption that lurched outwards from the guant woman's eyes, filling the chamber. G'hait staggered against the doorframe, momentarily stunned, blinking lights from his eyes. Even Kreista rocked in his spot, moaning quietly in his throat.

The Cardinal who had absorbed the brunt of the petulant assault without betraying so much as a flinch, chuckled lighlty.

"Good," he said in the mannre of a doting parent congratulating their child. G'hait expected him to pat the astonished archmagus on her head. "I'm gratified that the primaciis of this world still practice the Vocis Susurra... All too many of the Mother's magi allow the Arts to go unlearned."


Psychic battle of some kind. Apparently Genestealers have their own psychic training of some kind (or are implied to have it.) Also implied that they have some sort of culture that extends beyond individual worlds (then again the Inquisitor Angle also makes this.. debatable.)

Page 83

"When I was ordained as a magus, here in the Hive Primus, I was granted access to the library, the gathered knowledge of centuries. I sifted through records expecting to find no more than the writings of long-dead magi, the... nostalgic clutter of the years."

"Instead I found letters. Astropathic transcriptions, encoded and sealed, dispatched from other worlds. Hundreds of them, stacked one upon another, covered in dust. They went back a decade, by my estimate. Maybe more."

"Not one had been opened."


The genestealer cult has access to its own astropath, and manage to send signals via it undetected (supposedly.) This suggests that it is possible for Genestealer cults to coordinate on a larger scale even without the 'Nid hivemind in effect.

Page 88

Worse, the garish riot of blinking tones and oscillating spectrums that fronted the beatklubs contrived to add their tinted leoprosy to the night:


In the grim darkness of the future, there are only discos.

Page 101-102


"I'm Marshall Delacroix of the Vigilators, Commander of the Precinct."

..

"I was summoned to answer charges of brutality as it happens. Some of your 'fat men' aren't too keen on my methods, if you catch my drift. Not that they've got the authority to stop me."

..

"Tell me- how far does your jurisdiction extend?"

The Marshall cracked his knuckled pointedly, cruel mouth spreading into a sneer. "TEchnically? As far as you want it to. Local customs don't give me much say over the PDF, but in theory I could comandeer the lot."


Often stories seem to confuse the Arbites and Efnorcer types.. but whatever the out of universe reason in this case the Enforcer dude is beyond the control of his 'government'. Perhaps it is some unusual arrangement or delegation from the Arbites (a cost and manpower saving measure, perhaps. )

Alternately he IS arbites and the name "Vigilators" is just a local affectation (differences due to translations or custom or something.


Page 104

"Sit." ThE word resonated beyond the material plane, thick with psionic pussiance, rippling and alive in the air. On every side of the auditorium those plureaucrats who were half standing to discuss matters quietly with their neighbours, or who sprawled too far from the vertical, or who knelt in teh footwells of their benches in prayer, collapsed into their seats with a starteld yelp. Like an expanding ring of movement the gathered politicians found themselves compelled to sit bolt upright, unable to disobey the mental command that ripped at their very brains. Even the guards, standing upright at the periphery of the chamber, collapsed to the ground like boneless meat, sitting cross legged for a moment before clambering to their feet, confused.


Scores of individuals at least, possibly hundreds. A very Eisenhonr-like demonstration of psychic "voice" power.

Page 105

The ten strom troopers racked their hellguns with a succession of mechanical clatters, platnign themselves firmly in sturdy firing positions.


Projectile hellguns.

Page 106

Percussive and ugly, the rhythmic pounding of hellgun shells reverberated across the air, as tangible to the creature's hypersensitive skin as repeated blows of a hammer.


Again projectile hellguns.

Page 106-107

Like vultures lurking at the periphery of some exquisite execution, the storm troopers perched at the rim of the auditorium bowl gunned down any bustling plureaucrat that dared approach. Despite the roaring weapons the politicians fled ever upwards, porcine eyes wide and limbs scrabbling across the steep tiers of seating. Bright fabrics ripped and singed, fluids splatttered with explosive momentum, sheared and punctured bodies flopped and toppled backwards, crushing their neighbours, shards of bone and jewellry tumbling in their wake.


Effects of our projectile hellguns.

Page 108

The stink of blood and gunsmoke invaded G'hait's senses, firing instinctive reactions buried in his genes...


- mention of "gunsmoke". The only firing done had been by storm troopers wielding hellguns. YEt again a short story where a "hellgun" is described as a projectile weapon rather than a laser gun.

Page 118-119

"The mother's seed, G'hait, is sown amongst every race."

..

"Eldar, ork, tau, hrud... the contagii are an adaptable breed, child.
..

"Sadly," he said, "Eldar biology is rather less... crusde.. than that of humanity. The taint requires many more gneerations to acheive the primacii mutation. By which time, typically, the hybrid community has been discovered and purged. The eldar are nothing if not vigilant."

"I found Trikara by chance in the coruse of my travels. She's of the fifteenth or sixteenth generation, as far as I can tell. Heh - utterly insane of course, but quite devastating, I think you'll agree. And she does what she's told. The Eldar mind is a strange thing, G'hait... Brilliant, sharp, multifaceted.. but easily broken. Like a fake diamond."


I believe Trikara, the Eldar Genestealer hybrid, is of second or third generation. An interesting bit of dialogue nonetheless.

Page 119


"they'll see find bodies with bullet-wounds and assume the troopers were panicking, firing wild. Trying to kill an enemy that - heh- dodged their bullets and cut them to shreds."


Again, this refers to the storm troopers, wh o cut down planetary officials earlier, and that their hellguns were firing projectile ammo.

It's worth noting at this poitn that while its not explicitly mentioned and not even calcable, these "hellguns" appeared to do massive internal trauma, something you might expect from a shotgun or bolter. It is worth noting that many of the official swere torn apart by a Eldar Genestealer variant, but the deaths were described as being equally.. messy. They didn't specify either, so we ma conclude the hellgun "bullets" blew people apart quite messily.

Page 120

Charged with preparing his city for a potential war he'd stoked the population's fears with an almost arrogant disdain: proclaiming his remit via media tubes and broadcast pavilions, booming from public announcement speakers, glaring down with grizzled menace from viewscreens and news-auspexes alike.


Communciations with the populace available to the head Vigilator (the dolt). Clearly the sort of man you want in charge.

Note again that auspex is treated less like a scanner and more like a monitor display thingy here.

Page 121

Even as sleek Arbites tanks clawed their way from underground depots, pintle turrets swivelling with slow malevolence, the first riots sparked in the HEatsink.


This would tend to suggest they ARE arbites.

Page 121

Faced with a mass of angry rioters, backed into a walled culvert by the press of shouting, terrified bodies,a vigilator enforcement squad surrendered their power mauls and instead brought their shotguns to bear. The first volley - aimed deliberately low at their conscientous sergeant's command - shredded the knees and shins of the foremost riolters, dropping them in a tnagle of broken bone


ARbites shotgun effects.

Page 123

Even as the unmistakable scent of ozone wrapped itself around G'hait's senses,tinged with the tang of blood, Jezahael was crumpling to the ground, face set in an astonished rictus of confusion, eyes crossed in a dying attempt to focus upon the neat hole at the centre of her forehead - where a solitary wisp of smoke preceded a thick spout of cranial gore. She collapsed in disarray, sludgelike fluids pattering heavily across flagstones. She jerked twice, grunting spastically, and was still.


Laspistol damage. Rather curious - the skull is intact, but there is sign of burning (smoke) and signs that the brain took some pulverizing damage (the gore). Some sort of special Inquistiroail weapon, maybe?

Page 127

Assembled commanders of no less than five PDF regiments jostled nervously with tacticians, savant servitors, all manner of support staff abd comms-operatives vigilator luminaries and his own grim-faced aides.


At least 5 pdf "regiments" on the planet. A rather small PDF all told.
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Re: 40K "what Price victory" anthology discussion thread

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Second part of What Price Victory. Includes another Cain short story (one of those covered in the Omnibus I think). Also "hunter, Prey" a Andy Hoare story that features Kasrkin, 13th Company, and a calcable hellgun incident.

Page 137
Solar cells plundered from ancient hulks glitteered with a broken incandescence, baroque viewing towers and stout lance arrays jibbed with mangled asymmetry from unexpected pits and tiers.
The aforementioned orbital platform and solar power collector array from earlier. Honestly I'm not sure having solar cells that hve to be plundered from hulks (lost tech) present on a combat platform you may need is a good idea.

Page 138-139
The logic-engine interface, squeezing raw data into his memory, spiked with a warning tone. He sat upright with asmall gasp, forwning behind cable-strewn brows.

"Commander?" He called, voice quavering. "Commander Larkan?"

A junior communications officer slouched over, picking his way between servitors and tech-priests, equally as engaged in their observations He sniffed. "What is it, acolyte?"

"I need to speak to the commander."

"he's not here. What have you got?"

"Sir- with respect... Tis is a command-level observation. The Anima machina has imposed a classification level."

The officer sighed. His eyes seemed glazed.

"Acolyte, the commander left to attend a meeting on the surface two hours ago. We haven't been able to raise him since. How urgent is this... "command level observation"?"

"utmost, sir."

"then you'll have to make do with me. I'm the highest ranking officer, for now."

Acolyte Teriqol twitched, weighing his options through mechanically enhanced thought paths. Eventually a decision arose and he nodded, copper wiring bouncing like hair around his temples.

"The long-range scanners have an inbound contact, sir. There are no arrivals scheduled."

The officer raised an eyebrow. "Can you get an ID?"

"No."

The man bit a nail, fidgeting. "Probably nothing. There was another one two days ago, wasn't there? An unannounced Ecclesiarchy shuttle, if memory serves."

"Yes sir. But this is.. This contact si different. LArger. Multiple objects."

The officer's eyes narrowed.

"A fleet?"

"Probably sir, yes. It seems... well it's bigger than anything I've ever seen.

Th eofficer nodded. "Wht's the ETA of the contacts, acolyte?"

"Sir... at present speed.. Early morning. Ten hours, maybe less."

- Orbital spacedock long range scanners detect a large number of ships ETA on their arrival is ten hours "maybe less" - we later learn its an Imperial invasion fleet, so we can safely conclude that they were detected upon emerging form the warp at the edge of the system. If so, then it would suggest that they can cover that distance (anywhere from a few AU to several tens of AU) in under a day

Page 143
slowly, like planets rolling out of their orbits, like icebergs overbalancing and tilting, base-over-tip, into an arctic sea, the inquisitor's eyes swivelled downards. Pinned t o his own lapel, a work of exquisite beauty, the brooch gifted to him by Arkannis shimmered in teh gloom.

..

Inquisitor ARiale fragmented like an overripe fruit.
\

Grenade/stick of dynamite level destruction (roughly) in a rather compact piece of jewelry that almost certainly has to weigh less than a grenade.

Page 144
Even as his shattered body, pulverised and violated by the force of the brooch-charge, slid tot he ground, G'hait's mind felt nothing but rage at his betrayal.
More of the grenade.

Page 148
The Cardinal's shuttle, the Mawgetair, was a small affair, along-tubed craft, dwarfed by its bulging generarium and warp engines, ribbed around its central position with a filigree of struts and pylons, minor ventricles comprising domestic chambers - austere cabins, perfunctory mess hall and sickbay - to either.
The shuttle can land on planets, so it seems pretty small if it classifies as a "shuttle" (smaller than a km or so) but its not so unusual that its presecne would makr someone out as unsuual or shocking. But is warp capable. Given that we have an Inquisitor trying to travel under the guise of someone NOt an inquisitor, it seems that such vessels (at least for civilian use or nonmilitary use) aren't unusual. Then again since some ships that can land can be up to 500-1000 meters long, there's a alot of wiggle room in that.

It doesnt need to be a very long range or fast drive though either, and it may have other limitations (internal volume, for one.) But it does at least show that such craft would be common enough that possessing one isnt' a tip off as to one's true identity.

Page 151
"A simple little illusion. I poke around in her skull and reclothe myself in her eyes. To her, I'm a magus-farseer, a primacii of her long dead brood."
Jedi err psyker mind tricks.

Page 154 - 155
"Agmar," Arkannis said, cradling his fingers like the psars of a ribcage "was renowned for his pragmatsim. He bleieved in knowledge. He believed in revealing the enemy. He believed in strength through conflict."

..

"Agmar's philosohpies were passed, through the years, to his novices. Most notable amongst them was a man named Istvaar. He took Agmar's aideas, his theories, his disparate records of muse and whismy, and structured around them a modus. A way of working."

..

"Today the Istvaanian inquisitors are a secret society, G'hait. Their ways are considered extrmee - and they would be the first to agree. Extremeism is sanctioned, they woudl say. Extremism is required. Are the enemies of the Imperium concerned with moderation? With liberalism? Of course not!"

...

"The Istvaanians gave a name to their secret society, so that they could organise their movements away from the spying eye sof other, less enlightened members of the Emperor's faith..."

...

"We called ourselves the Elucidium."
- an Istvaanian inquisitor is revealed as our offworld magus and described here. They describe themselves as a secret society, one of extremists (to themselves and others) because they consider extreme actions neccessary (Extremism is sanctioned because the Imperium's fose aren't concerned with "moderation" or "liberalism.") But for the most part they're disruptive assholes.

Page 156-157
And then, something moved. Impossibly, something shifted, and had form. As it clarified agianst the blackness something beside it arose from the murk, and another. And another. The void blossomed with faint ghostlight, reflected from the planet surface now lost grom G'hait's view, playing across uneven surfaces of a dozen, a score, a hundred vast shapes...

..

The fronded gill, at this distance, seemed less fluted, less organic in its sweeping rills. One might be forgiven for instead imagining the chromic spars of sensor array, or the brandished muzzles of atmospheric cannons. The tentacle, uneravelling across the vaccuum, a million tiny calvicules dotting its surface, now seemed more regular, segmented slabs of connected metal. A fuel umbilicus.

Great leathern wings became lance arrays and bridgeheads, gaping spoor mouths at this distance were rendered as flight hangars and torpedo tubes. Scales became buttresses, spines were the steeples and turrets of human construction, guady skin-colourations became the blocky designs of heraldry and symbol.

"Battlefleet Ultima Secundus," Arkannis intoned over G'hait's shoulder. "Incorporating the fifteenth, seventieht, and ninety-third regiments of the Karadmium Guard, plus the principle attack vessels of the Tarantulas Chapter of the Adeptus AStartes. I requested their presence in this system one week ago."

At least a hundred ships of a "battlefleet" (either sector or segmentum level, "Utlima" can lean either way) mobilized from whereever the fuck they came from a week ago. If we knew where we could make estimates.


Page 170

- Admech enhanced Calculus Logi dude can run at 25 km/hr from a very short running start. Other humans can generally keep up with him fairly well (difference of less than a minute over a 7 1/2 minute time period for him.)

Page 174 - 20 km/hr for the Admech Logi is not considered "pushing" himself. Again from a very short running start and again other humans do not have (much) trouble keeping up, if they lack his actual endurance.

Page 180-181
"Merron is a way-station garrison, somehwere to re-arm and lick our wounds while we watch the Emperor's mines for him."

"But if that were so, why not ue the Imperial Guard to protect it? Are we not more valuable elsewhere?" There was a hint of wounded pride in the youth's voice.
"Mere men? Ha! Iridium attracts the greed of weaker souls like a candle does moths. We could not expect mere men to stand sentinel over it, nor expect them to repel any of the warp-cursed traitors who prey on the Imperium's riches."

..

"No, only the Adeptus Astartes can truly place duty before base desire."

..

"Fear not lad. If the Corrupted return to this world as they have in the past, we'll be in the fray soon enough."

- A company of Doom Eagles Spacec Marines take over guard duty from a smaller group of Flesh Tearer Space Marines. Basically, it looks like they're purpose is to garrison the planet and protect it. The reason they seem to be used over the Guard is that their loyalty and discipline/honour is unquestioned (whereas Guard cannot be guaranteed to not be greedy.) Logically though you couldn't do this EVERYWHERE. There's bound to be thousands of mines and you'd need at LEAST two companies for every mine (one holding it and one en route). That's a rather hefty chunk of Space Marine manpower.

Its woth noting that the planet in question is a mining planet, "rich in iridium"

Page 182
BEfore him, the full might of the entire third company was spread, a glittering steel parad of tactical, assault and terminator squads - a suitable first impression for the Doom Eagles to make on their inaugural posting to Merron.
confirmation we're dealign with a company.

Page 182
The ships belonged to the Flehs Tearers, one of the smallest but most savage Chapters in the Adeptus Astartes.

Tarikus let his helmet optics bring them closer.
- the Flesh Tearers are described as one of the "smallest" Chapters of the Astartes, but that doesn't stop them from being as assholish as a much bigger chapter.

Page 183 - Tales of the unsavory practices of the Blood Angles and their successor chapters aren't considered "appropriate" topics for discussion and are suppressed by Tarikus.

Page 188 - Sergeant Noxx, from the Blood Angels duology, makes an appearance here. He's still a dick.

Page 190 - the planet being Garrisoned is described as a medeviel backwater.

Page 191

- Mention of the "Black Rage" from the Blood Angels and their descendent Chapters, even the Flesh Teares is "heresy", accoridng to the comments of the SM Captain of third Company.

PAge 197
They had weathered more than their share of misfortune and hardship; from the jungle hell of their homewrold, they numbered merely four full companies, and their only starship was an ancient hulk crowded with ill cared-for equipment, like the patchwork Razorback he'd seen earlier.

- the Flesh Tearers apparnelty comprise only four companies and a single spacecraft.

Page 200
Tarikus grabbed at Petius's weapon - a narrow-bore hand flamer - where it had fallen and trained it on his brother Marine; the rat-beast's eyes had glowed iwth the same infenral hate that the sergeant had seen in the Triators at Kript, and suddenly he had no doubt as to what quarry they were tracking.

..

Tarikus whispered a litany under his breath and pressed down on the trigger stud, engulfing Korica and his myriad attackers in wreaths of glowing orange flame. The verminous creatures hissed and spat, catching ablaze and falling away from the Marine's armour. Korica shrugged off the licking fires, beating them out with his gloves, his breath coming in harsh wheezes. The marine's skin was bloodied, burnt and cracked, but he lived.
"narrow bore" flamer used to burn away some mutant rat creatures. The flamer does fuck all to the armoured marine, of course.

Page 208
Neme sat cross-legged and still before the censer, her shaven head lowered as she breathed the ritual incantations that would allow her ot enter a state of meditation in which she could send her consciousness beyond the confines of her physical body.
..

Reaching byond the boundaries of her chamber, the psyker allowed her spirit-self to drift on the zephyrs oc consciousness gusting around the station.
Sanctioned Pskyer doing some sort of out of body experience for scouting purposes.

Page 208
On instinct, she allowed her spirit-self to coast on the emotional slipstream of a trooper as he marched purposefully towards the control centre of the Ormantep Listening station.

..

The trooper, a member of the elite Kasrkin comapny that had been dispatched from CAdia to garrison the post...

..


Tech Priests and acolytes crowded around cogitators and pict slate,s some issuing orders, otehrs hurrying to carry them out.
Location given, the forces defending it, and other forces around. Also, we again see the Cadian psyker acting as a scout/sensor system.

Page 209
He lifted the slate, speed-reading the information displayed on its glowing pict-screen. He turned, issuing an order to an acolyte, though Neme's spirit self could make out no more than a ghostly echo as he spoke.
She can watch, but not hear in this state.

Page 209
She concentrated, allowing her spirit to lift. Up thorugh the vaulted ceiling of the control chamber, thorugh dark access ways and service ducts, through plates of armaplas sheathing and out into the night.

..

She drifted higher, imagining herself buffeted by high altitude winds that her spirit-self had no way of perceiving. Turning her sight on the distant horizon, she sped in the direction she had been shown by the pict.
More scouting.

Page 210
Guido Sol hefted the power pack of his drill rig as he exited the mine shaft. His bulky pressure suit was encrusted with the dust and grime of another fruitless, ten-hour shift at the face.
Miners on the same planet as the scouting outpost. 10 hour shift.

Page 211
Sol and his crew were indentured workers, miners shipped in from off-world to work the mines of Ormantep for what had seemed, at the time they had signed up, a tidy profit. But on their arrival they had found themselves indebted to their Adeptus Mechanicus employers for the cost of their interstellar journey, and that cost had amounted to the equivalent of a lifetime in service to the Adpetus overseers.
- the AdMech practices indentured sevitude (much with the same level of dishonesty) - they'll pay for the transport of (skilled) labor to a place of their choice, under the belief of acquiring riches, and then drown them in debt until they are virtually owned by the AdMech. Not unlike certain US analogues.

Page 212
Grenski did not acknowledge the younger adept, as he was deep within the trance that would allow him to transmit his thoughts light years across the gulf of interstellar space, to commune with his peers on a thousand other worlds.

..

"My master has been within the auto-seance for three hours now, captain. He should have established contact with another terminus long ago. His life signs indicate he has not, and that he is locked within his trance.

..

"He means," interrupted Neme, as the acolyte stumbled over an explanation. "that something out there is blocking him, stopping him from getting the message out that the intruders are here."

..

Neme scanned the chamber, wrapping her arms around herself against the cold. Another seven niches were arrayed around the room,a n astropath reclining within each one. Her breath fogged as she spoke.
- Astropath choir (noted for casting is thoughts "light years" across space.) is stated to require less than three hours to make contact with another astropath. This is of the "make contact with another mind" directional sort of communication, arguably shorter ranged but more secure (than sending out a random unfocused directional or omnidirectional signal) If we assume a 10 ly distance between planets comms speed would be a mere tens of thousands of c, but it is implied that it took far far less time.

eight astropaths total in this choir.

PAge 214
The other miner was spread-eagled, the back of his hood a ragged mess and a fan of blood and bone spattered across the boulder.
Bolter round, as I recall.

Page 215
EAch viewer relayed the scene from a surveyor; some set atop the armoured towers of the listening station, others mounted on remote pylons several kilometres out into the wastes.
The listening post's detection setup.

Page 215
Picking out surveryor Epsilon Seven from the bank of screens, Vrorst could make out the men of squad three as they prepared to depart.
Multiple surveyors and at least three Kasrkin squadrons.

Page 216
"Put me through to Sergeant Heska, right now."

The ensign's hands moved over a series of dials and switches, and he spoke quietly into his vox set. "On the vox, sir." he eventually replied.
Implied that they don't have micro beads, which is a bit curious, since all Cadians (usually) do.

Page 217
Sergeant Heska tumbled forward against Klorin as his chest exploded.
Again, bolter fire. Karskin Carapace is not doing much good against it, though.

Page 217
"Adept, I need that surveroy set to read the body heat of whoever's asaulting my men."

..

The scene on the main screen switched to a kaleidoscopic riot of colour as the tech priest petitioned the machine spirit to relay an image based on thermographic readings. The colours reseolved into solid masses, the cold air of the dust storm visible as swirling, deep blue vortices and the forms of the Kasrkin as distinct, red shapes. The surveyor altered its focus, seeking to penetrate the veil of howling dust that obscured the attackers.

A score of orange forms emerged from the blue, the heat issued from them so intense the surveyor could not resolve their exact shapes beyond this formelss mass. Twin stars of bright white sat at the shoulder of each figure, and further strobes of glaring light indicated muzzle flashes as bolters spat high velocity explosive rounds inot the Kasrkin position.
- Surveyors of the station manned by the Kasrkin can be modified to read body heat.



Page 217
"Ensign, I want a Valkyrie out there right now. Those men must be evacuated immeditely."
- Kasrkin have access to Valkyries. Since Kasrkin are an integral part of most Cadian regiments it could be safely concluded that any force with Grenadiers nad/or Storm Troopers in it will have access to Valkyries and vultures (air support).

Page 218
"Klorin, I have a Valkyrie closing on your position, ETA..." he glanced at the tactical reader, "ETA three minutes thirty. Intil them you have some soldiering to do."
A Valk has something like 1100 kph max speed, so this would suggest they are ~60 km or so away, giving us a broad idea on the range of the surveyors AND the vox.

Page 218
[quyote]
Captain Vrorst relayed a series of instructions to the squad leader, specifying targets that the Kasrkin coulc not acquire through the dust, but that he could read clearly on the thermographic surveyor.[/quote]

These Kasrkin don't seem to have any NVG either. They seem rather under-equipped compared to other elite forces. Then again this is an Andy Hoare short story. Did I mention Andy Hoare had written this? He did.


Page 218
Thirty eight seconds later one of the attackers fell to the disciplined fire of the remaining defender,s and a brief cheer filled the control chamber before a stern look from Vrosrst silenced the staff.

..

Vrorst redirected Klorin's squad to fire on the new threat, and another attacker fell.
- Approximately half a squad (4-6 troopers) with hellguns can down a Space Marine within 38 seconds.

Page 219 - they decribe the base as "well defended", but one wonders why the damn thing doesnt have automated defense guns, or servitor controlled heavy weapons, or even some bloody powerfields/force field defenses or laser fences or any of the other many and varied defence features many similar facilities have shown.

Page 221
Vrorst knew form experience that he would be tactically blind until his command centre was fully operational again, but that was one of the reasons the Cadians, along with other Imperial Guard regiments, employed sanctioned psykers.

..

"Lieutenant, yuo may have noticed that we've just lost all command and control capability short of the squad-level vox. "
Loss of surveyor and vox aiblities. According to this, Sanctioned PSykers can duplicate the effects of both. Also note again we apparently have on interpersonal micro-bead type vox.

Page 221
Though he was her commanding officer by dint of rank, she answered to the Officio Psykana back on Cadia, and would no longer be cowed by his bearing.
Politics.


Page 222
Neme closed her eyes and, taking a deep breath, allowed her extrasensory powers to absorb the emotions of those around her. She filtered out the tension in the comamnd chamber, and cast her psychic net further afield. One sector at a time she scanned the perimeter of the complex, seeking out thoughts that did not belong to the defenders. At the edge of her inner-hearing, she caught an echoing whisper, like the sound of malcicous plotting in the nave of an empty cathedral. Bracing herself, she homed in, a feeling of utter menace welling up inside her. Suddenly she realised the nature of the threat and severed the psychic link.

She broke contact a moment to late. An explosion of pain erupted behind her eyes, the psychic backlash throwing her several metres across the chamber.

..

With a tremendous effort of will, she forced the probing claws of agony from her mind, exorcising the other's intrusion with a primal scream of denial.
Once again the scanner/detection functions of the psyker.

Page 223 - armoured Space Marines described as being 2.5 metres tall.


Page 223
The attackers advanced, thirty hellguns opened fire as one. Though not individually as powerful as a bolter, massed hellgun fire is capable of overwhelming most foes, no matter how well armoured they may be. The nearest attacker faltered, great chunks of his breast plate disintegrating as the volley hammered home. The armour fused and bubbled, a single bright las-round exploited the weakness opened up, and speared through the figure's torso to erupt from its back in a shower of sparks. The giant fell. It did not bleed, for its wounds were instantly cauterised.

Vrorst ordered a second volley, and this time three more of the armoured behemoths fell.
As noted in the 2nd edition codex, the "plates" of armor are an inch thick or so for the ceramnite (nevermind any other sandwich elements) but not neccesarily solid plate (honeycomb design as described in Angels of Darkness) so it must be accounted for. That said, many books describe space marines in armor as around half a ton or so (while in 2nd edition its a mere 250 lbs) so some armors may actually be heavier. Deathwatch RPG gave power armour a weight of around 180 kg, but also mentioned Space MArines in armour can vary from 500 to 1000 kg in weight. Flesh and Iron also mentions Astartes helmets massing 20 kg.

In any case, call it maybe 3 cm thick, 50x50 cm dimensions with the properties of silicon. The breastplate would weigh some 17 kg, which doesn't seem unreasonable. If its 17 kg for front and back plates, say 50 kg for arms and legs, and 10 for helmet you'd get close to the 250 lb limit. Scale by 1.5 or so for the Deathwatch stats, and maybe double to fit other cases (half a ton armor, 20 kg helmets, etc.) In any case should be reasonable within a factor of 2 or 3 for mass.

Hellgun effects seem to be partly explosive, but also significantly thermal, as theyseem to melt/boil the chestplate as well at least partly. If we assume 30% molten, it takes about ~2.55 MJ per kg to melt. It would take at least 13 MJ to melt through. If all hellgun bolts hit, then its ~430 kilojoules per bolt minimum.

Note that if we take "bubbling" as meaning close to the boiling point, the calc could increase by at least another ~1.1 MJ per kg (about 1.5 MJ per bolt). Overall we can figure about half a megajoule to several MJ per bolt as a reasonable "order of magnitude" result, not including any mechanical/explosive effects and possible damage to flesh beneath, the variables with mass and percentage melted, and the inefficiencies involved.

One bolt over penetrates the flesh, but without knowing effects or size of wound we can't really calc it. We also dont know if the "instantly cauterized" bit is from teh lasers or the larramans orga. Also, second volley downs 3 Marines instead.


Page 225 - Kasrkin armour is of no use against Astartes bolters, once again. I'm not even going to bother addresisng more than that

Page 231
Night and the rain had both been falling for some time and I'd been getting steadily colder, wetter and more hacked off since the middle of the afternoon before we saw the light, glimmering faintly through the trees which bordered the road. The two gunners in the back of the Sala­mander with me hadn't helped my darkening mood either; they were fresh out from Valhalla, had never seen rain before, and found the 'liq­uid snow' a fascinating novelty which they discussed at inordinate length and with increasingly inanity.
This is a Cain short story, featured in his first omnibus. Sets the rough timeframe they've been travelling on the Salamander.


Page 232
True to form we spent the spring, and the sort of balmy summer that vacation worlds build their entire economies on, flinging shells into the distance, secure in the knowledge that we were doing the Emperor's work without any of the unpleasantness you get when the enemy can shoot back at you.

Vacation worlds mentioned. A vacation economy exists in the Imperium.

Page 235
As usual he had the air conditioning in his office turned up high enough to preserve grox.
Guard offices (somewhere) have AC. I vauguely recall these being modular domes.

Page 237
What the Emperor willed on this particular morning was a steady increase in the cloud, which gradually began to attenuate the sunshine, and a slowly freshening breeze which stole the remaining warmth from it. The sky darkened by almost imperceptable degrees as we rattled along, making good time towards the nearest town, and I wasn't too surprised to feel the first drops of moisture on my skin while we were still some way short of our destination.
"How much further?" I asked Jurgen, wishing I'd comandeered a Chimera instead. The noise in the enclosed crew bay would have been deafening, but at least it would have kept the rain off.
"Ten or twelve leagues," he said, apparently unperturbed by the change in the weather, "fifteen to the OR"
I had no intention of accompanying Grear and Mulenz all the way to the forward observation post, but we were close enough to civilisation to make the quarter hour or so of mild discomfort I still had to look forward to seem bearable. "Good," I said, then turned to the gunners with an encouraging smile. "You'll be there in no time."
"What about you, sir?" Mulenz asked, looking up from his ranging scope. It was the first time I'd let them know I wasn't planning on checking in on the observation post; every artillery battery needs its for­ward observers, but it's a hard, thankless job, and a fire magnet for every enemy trooper in the area once they realise you're there.
Quarter hour or so (call it quarter to half an hour) to cover 10-12 leagues. A "league" can very from 2.2 km up to 5.6+ km so we could be talking as little as 22 km up to 67 km. 67 km in a quarter hour seems a bit off (268 kph? the thing isnt a fucking rocket car) so something closer to the lower end of the scale (100 km/hr or so) seems more plausible, especially given what we know of the scout variant.)

Given traveling at least a few hours, they've covered a few hundred km possibly, suggesting a (lower limit) operational range of the Salamander.

Also, one of the Valhallans has a ranging scope of some sort..



Page 237-238
"Roadblock," he said. The palms of my hands began to tingle, as they often do when something I can't quite put my finger on doesn't seem right. "Catachans, by the look of it."
"They can't be," I said. I glanced ahead of us: a squad of troopers was fanning out across the road, lasguns at the ready. Jurgen was right, from this distance they did seem to have the heavily-muscled build which distinguishes the inhabitants of that greenhouse hell.
Catachans, but they turn out to be zombies. So these are rather big, burly zombies, important for calc purposes later.

Page 239
"Confirming that, commissar." Mostrue's voice, calm and collected as usual. "Targeting now. firing in two."
"What?" But the link had gone dead. We only had one chance. "Jurgen! Get us off the road!"
"Yes, sir." The Salamander swung violently again, lasbolts spanging from the armour on all sides now, throwing us around like peas in a bucket. The ride became a succession of sickening lurches, as the smooth rockcrete of the highway gave way to a rutted forest track. The flurry of bolts began to dwindle as we opened the distance from our pursuers. All except a few, which continued to pepper the front armour to little effect.
I risked another peek over the armour to see a small knot of men scattering in front of us: a couple of them weren't quite fast enough, and the Salamander lurched again with a sickening crack and a smell of putrescence which made Jurgen's odour seem like a flower garden.
- the Valhallan Artillery platforms fire off two rounds onto Cain's position, (10-15 leagues from the OP") The range would be at least 20-30 km, probabl yquite a bit further (up to 100 km or so) for Earthshakers against targets beyond the observation post, but notneccesarily an upper limit.

We also know that Cain had been travelling for at least a few hours, probably at some 80-100 kph, so that tends to suggest a fairly long range for the Earthshakers as well.

Page 239
Despite everything I'd seen in my career up to that point, it was still a shock. The face was dis­tended with infection, pus seeping from open sores, and his limbs were swollen and arthritic. But inhumanly strong, for all that. Even an ork would probably have thought twice about trying to board a vehicle moving at our pace...
Plague Zombie of Nurgle, basically. Possbily as strong or stronger than an Ork, and as tough if not tougher.

Page 240
By the time I was able to blink my eyes clear I could hear the first shrieks of the incoming shells.
The roar of the barrage detonating behind us was almost deafening, splinters of wood from shattered trees spattering the armour plate, and stinging my cheek as I ducked for cover, Jurgen kept us moving at a brisk pace, deeper into the cover of the woods, and the noise gradually receded. Grear and Mulenz were looking back at the flashes and smoke like juvies at a firework display, but I guess being forward observers they were used to being at the sharp end of one of our barrages.
Artillery barrage. They can't have been travelling for more than a few minutes, meaning they couldn't be more than a few hours away.

Page 241
Four hours later, cold, tired, hungry, and seriously hacked off, I was beginning to think fighting our way out through a bunch of walking pusbags wouldn't have been so bad after all. We'd probably have linked up with the first of our recon patrols by now, and be on our way back to the battery in a nice cosy Chimera...
- Four hours later, they're lost. This becomes relevant later on, because they spent about 4 hours in or near the salamander and proceeding on foot.


Page 243
Shaking her off like an overeager puppy I raised my arm and fired.

The crack of the lasbolt broke the spell; Grear and Mulenz raised their lasguns and followed suit. Jurgen took slower, deliberate aim.

Something shrieked in the darkness, and burst through the surrounding undegrowth. A smoking crater had been gouged out of the left side of its body, a mortal wound to any normal man, but it just kept coming. Jurgen fired once, exploding its head, and it fell in a shower of putresence.
Jurgen's lasgun (single shot) exploded the head of a plague zombie, cain's laspistol gouges a crater in the side of the body (10-15 cm in diameter perhaps, given potential thickness of human trunk?) Easily single or double digit kj at least, possibly many times that given the aforementioned plague zombies are significantly tougher than normal.

PAge 243
In the sudden flare of light the enemy trooper stood out clearly, running towards us, a filthy combat blade in its hand. Jurgen and I fired simultaneously, blowing it to pieces before it could close.
Burst of lasgun fire from Cain and Jurgen blasts apart a single Plague Zombie. Probably no more than a couple of shots apiece, and odds are faovring the lasgun doing the bulk of the damage.

But going on Luke's trusty Death ray peak intensity calculator, it could be nearly 10 kj per shot average (6 shots total), upwards of 50 kj per shot for 2 shots assuming just meat. If its something omre complicated or we're a bit less idealistic, the yields go up of course (Bone and/or Gristle, either of which may reflect "Nurgle tough" nature, could easily put it into 100-200 kj per shot even with more than 2 shots, possibly even more.) Generally, double to triple digit kj seems a likely estimate given what is generally needed to blast apart bodies (stick of dynamite/grenade level damage, roughly.)

Page 246
Even Jurgen was being flirted with outrageously, which struck me as truly bizarre. The only female I'd ever known to take a romantic interest in him before was an ogryn on R&R, and she'd been drunk at the time. He picked at his food nervously, responding as best he could, but it was clear he was out of his depth.
I thought this was funny.

Page 249
"Give in, Ciaphas. Slaanesh has surely touched your soul before now. You live only for yourself. You're his, whether you know it or not."
Holy Emperor! That was the first time I'd heard the names of any of the Chaos powers, long before my subsequent activities as the Inquisi­tion's occasional and extremely reluctant errand boy made them all too familar, but even then I could tell that what I faced was monstrous beyond measure. Selfish and self-indulgent I may well have been, and still am if I'm honest about it, but if I have any qualities that outmatch that one it's my will to survive. The realisation of what I faced, and the consequences if I failed, doused me like a shock of cold water. I snapped back to myself like a drowning man gasping for air, to find Emeli staring at me in consternation.
"You broke free!" she said, like a petulant child denied a sweet. Now I knew she was a psyker I could feel the tendrils starting to wrap them­selves around my mind again. I scrabbled for the laspistol at my belt, desperation making my fingers shake.
"Sorry," I said. "I prefer blondes." Then I shot her. She glared at me for a moment in outraged astonishment, before the light faded from her eyes and she went to join whatever she worshipped in hell.
Possibly one of Cain's best moments and lines ever, and that's really saying something.

PAge 250
Every girl in the school was there, along with what was left of Grear and Mulenz. They were still alive, for whatever that was worth, rictus grins of insane ecstacy on their faces, as the priestesses of depravity con­ducted their obscene rituals. As I watched, Grear expired, and an ululating howl of joy rose from the assembled cultist's throats.

..

Then Krystabel stepped forward, her voice raised, chanting some­thing new in counterpoint to the other acolytes. A faint wind blew through the room, thick with that damnable perfume, and the hairs on the back of my neck rose. Mulenz began to levitate, his body shifting and distorting in strange inhuman ways. Power began to crackle through the air.
Slaaneshi Schoolgirls creating a Daemonhost and playing succubi.

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The Slaaneshi cult was rallying by now, howling forward to meet their disease-ridden rivals in what looked like a suicidal charge; but it was only to buy Krystabel enough time to complete her ritual. The daemonhost which had formerly been Mulenz levitated forwards, spitting bolts of energy from its hands, and laughing insanely as it blasted pusbags and schoolgirls alike. I fled, ignored by the Nurglites, who grouped together to concentrate their lasgun fire on the hovering abomination. Much good it seemed to be doing them. I could hear screams and explosions behind me as I sprinted across the lawn, shoulderblades itching in expectation of feeling a lasbolt or something worse at any moment.
Daemonhost blasting schoolgoilrs and zombies, and pretty immune to lasguns. Also this makes me think "Buffy the Vampire Slayer in 40K."

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"Cain to command. Full barrage, danger close, immediate effect. Don't argue, just do it!" I hung up before Mostrue could start pestering me with questions, and waited for the first shells to arrive.
If being close to the first strike had been worrying, getting caught in a full barrage was serious change of undergarments time. For what seemed like eternity the world disappeared in fire and smoke, but I guess the Emperor was looking out for us after all or we'd never have made it to the road in one piece.
When we went back at first light the entire building had been oblit­erated, along with several hectares of woodland.

- Cain orders a bombardment of a school (which turns out to be a den of Chaos) - a 'full barrage' to wipe it out. Earlier we established that the Valhallans had traveled on Salmander for 4 hours before going on foot. The Acamdey was within walking distance (matter of hours tops, as they spent the night there and it was night when they ran across the girls.) Without a doubt we can further indicate an Earthshaker range of 100+ km (which meshes with whta they are capable of in Tactica Imperialis)

Also took out the daemonhost, and several "hectares' of land Say maybe 150-200 m per side area. Assuming around 20-100 guns or so to level 20,000 square meters - or 200-1000 square meters per shot, which would probably match up with what modern 6 inch howitzers could do I bet (or not dramatically different.) Then again considering a Earthshakre is something like 5 inch artillery, that whould bea bit impressive.

There's also the issue of targeting. Cain ordered a bombardment without giving coordinates, so the Earthshakers had to home in on him somehow, indicating they have some means of locating and transmitting that data other than verbally (GPS or some equivalent, homing beacon, whatever.)
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Re: 40K "what Price victory" anthology discussion thread

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Connor MacLeod wrote:Page 218
Captain Vrorst relayed a series of instructions to the squad leader, specifying targets that the Kasrkin coulc not acquire through the dust, but that he could read clearly on the thermographic surveyor.
These Kasrkin don't seem to have any NVG either. They seem rather under-equipped compared to other elite forces. Then again this is an Andy Hoare short story. Did I mention Andy Hoare had written this? He did.
Not that I want it to sound like I'm defending Hoare or anything ( :P ), but that quote doesn't prove that the Kasrkin lack night vision gear (e.g. light amplifiers), it just means they don't have thermal imaging; AFAIK conventional NVGs can't see through dust clouds, whereas thermal imaging kit can.
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