Force Substitution: The NCR at AR-558

[Panzersharkcat]

I was originally going to make this with the Enclave but I already did an Enclave vs Trek thread. Plus, it seems horribly unfair for either Trek faction to go up against basically the Fallout equivalent of Imperial Stormtroopers, even if there are only a few hundred Enclave soldiers in the entire army, tops. Anyway, onto the topic.

By act of Q, some other sufficiently advanced alien, or jerkass god, NCR troops will replace one of the factions at AR-558. The leadership of both factions are told to suck it up and take it and the NCR troopers are told to go along if they want to return to California (or stay alive long enough to enjoy all the holodeck sex they want. I doubt they'd want to return to post-apocalyptic hellhole fighting crazies who think they're Roman soldiers and enjoy crucifying their prisoners). How much more successful would NCR soldiers, which will include limited numbers of Rangers and heavy troopers, have been against the Jem'Hadar? Could NCR soldiers have succeeded where the Jem'Hadar failed?

[Sea Skimmer]

Just about anyone with automatic weapons and barbed wire or heck, a chain link fence, would do twenty times better then the Federation troops did.

[HMS Sophia]

The same goes for the other side. NCR rangers have excellent snipers, heavy assault weapons and automatic weapons as standard issue, as well as plenty of explosives and relatively good infantry training. They would walk all over the feds if they took the place of the dominion as well.

[Ahriman238]

Well, just for starters the NCR have about three orders of magnitude more personel than the threadbare Starfleet garrison at AR-558. Most of them are pretty badass besides. And they have heavy weapons, and possibly vehicle support, and working brains...

Yeah, whichever side gets the NCR, wins.

[Panzersharkcat]

Well, I should have specified that whichever side the NCR ends up on will have the same numbers as the Federation or the Dominion did. There would only be about 150 NCR personnel if they end up on the Federation side with only two or three Rangers and two or three heavy troopers. Rangers tend to have only lever action firearms ranging from .357 to .45-70. A few have sniper rifles in .308 and basically a scoped M4. Veterans Rangers are the only ones with anti-materiel rifles. Heavy troopers are the only ones I remember having fully automatic weapons, and half of them end up wielding melee weapons. The rest of the soldiers would only have basically AR-15s. The only vehicles I remember the NCR having would be Bear Force One.

But yeah, whichever side the NCR ends up on, especially if they take the Dominion side with landmines that are marginally more effective, mop the floor with the other Trek faction. OK, I'm going to stop making new VS threads involving Fallout.

[Highlord Laan]

The Veteran Rangers alone would tear the Jem'hadar a new orifice. Add in the grunts and Heavy Troopers -the latter of which tend to carry LMG's, miniguns and rocket launchers- and the Dominion just lost the siege.

After smashing the attacking force, the NCR will probably launch a counterattack, and flat out take AR588. Then they can hopefully go on an extended vacation in the holosuites back on DS9 before getting tapped to reteach humanity how to fight a ground war.

[Rossum]

If the NCR are working with the federation and have access to replicators then their supply problems could be rendered a non-issue. I'm sure the NCR would have enough ammo and eplosives to win the battle, but having access to repilcators and federation medicine would just make them that much better. Plus, I think the NCR has made use of robots (although the only one I remember is a friendly Brainbot you can find around one of the Rnager outposts).

If the NCR can bring along some of theit robotics technology then all sorts of improvements can be made.

Though I'm sure the NCR would be better off just playing at Quarks bar then they would putting their lives on the line in those holodecks. The people in the Fallout universe have seen enough stupid pre-war stuff to realise that holodecks are a disaster waiting to happen.