Who would win? 40k versus obscure anime

[khursed]

Ok so imagine 12 space marines, versus the knight saber team from the anime Bubble Gum crisis.

They use pretty advance suits of armor that are semi-militarized that can kick anything their society has in term of armor and combat robot.

So, who do you think would win?

The setting Mega Tokyo 2040, 12 space marine, with an array of diverse weapons, whichever you prefer, as long as it's standard issue. So bolt gun, melta gun, power weapons etc.. Krak and frak grenades.

The Knight Sabers have 5 female team mates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bu ... characters

If you don't know them.

[Simon_Jester]

Is this... Zen parody?

If so, I like it. If not, I don't.

[Stark]

It's just a squad vs squad thing, and the Bubblegum Crisis guys are pretty foolishly powerful. I don't watch it, but they sure use rail guns and nano blades to chop up tanks and killer robots.

It's not real fair that the 40k guys out number them, but without jump packs it seems reasonable.

[Vendetta]

I've only seen the '80s version of BGC (and by '80s I mean really '80s, like some intersection of Blade Runner and Robocop type '80s), but I don't remember it being that high power a 'verse. I mean there's one episode where they have to deal with a car and it's something of a problem. (It's an evil robit car)

To be honest, if they're supposed to be fluff accurate Marines one of them on his own would probably be a serious problem for the Knight Sabres (there are plenty of in-universe threats that they have to gang up on, and in fact teaming up on more powerful opponents is somewhat their thing). Nene isn't a fighter, she's ECM/ECCsupport, and the only one with a serious ranged weapon built into her hardsuit is Pris, and that usually doesn't work (in fact, that's how you can tell that this shit is serious, because Pris' spikes get caught and spat back out again). So if they can pin down a marine so that Linna can hit him with her ersatz powerfist then they might be able to do something.

[Ford Prefect]

In 2040 it's precisely zero effort for Priss to flip an APC on its roof and vehicle mounted autocannon rounds ping off the hardsuits like rain. They're also faster on foot than an AD Police cruiser speeding down a highway, and their primary means of getting around the city is jumping hundreds of metres at a stretch. Given the mention of the date I thought it was that version.

[Sea Skimmer]

Well in the 2040 version they had fairly high physical powers, but seemed to if anything have weaker ranged weapons then the orginal, and used them even less, almost always defeating enemies my punching them in weak spots, very occasionally shooting them in weak spots. I'd say 40K dies badly since the 2040 suits can jump in thousand plus yard arcs and outright fly short distances, while we don't have much reason to think 40K bolters would pierce the armor on the suits. Also the 'final' version suits pretty much were pretty close to magic, and able to shapeshift just to be put on, transform into tiny space planes that allowed the users to survive deorbiting.

The running speed thing was extra retarded I must say though, in a series full of some really retarded stuff like the base that has a twenty story deep swimming pool as its one weakness, as runs into that little problem of how fast can you even think to move your legs. But they did it enough that its not a fluke. I dunno if maybe some of the more advanced stuff in 40K might be a better match then just grunt space Marines.

[Connor MacLeod]

How about Devastator marines packing heavy weapons like lascannon or something? Disregarding specifica lascannon calcs, is it possible for them to tank (or dodge) taht kind of fire? Assuming that a.) heavy weapons are considered part of the 'standard issue' and b.) they are at a range or in a position to be able to take advantage of that (1000+ yard jumps is going to be a large chunk of potential lascannon range)

Also what if we're talking Assault marines with jump packs? If they can cover 1000 yards and can fly, they're bound to be more agile. I can't remember exact upper limits from assault marines, but I know they can cover a few hundred metres per leap - although this doesn't factor in speed - how fast they cna cover those respective distances matter too.

[Sea Skimmer]

I don't recall much in terms of superhuman reflexes in either animie, even though the running speed would imply they should be superhuman, but they were very agile in general, like doing cartwheels and back flips for fun in the suits. On other hand they pretty much just let themselves just be shot at by guys with rifles and grenade launchers a bunch of times, but this was also plainly no real threat. If someone had them dead on with a high velocity weapon they'd probably get hit. Late in the series the get way more powerful but I don't recall if any super reflexes came into play with that, I don't think it was really relevant but all powers should have increase.d

The jumping from building to building was at high speed, 1000 yards is a real rough estimate and some jumps might have been more like a mile, either way it get all over greater Tokyo in an implied time of low minutes. As for taking lasgun fire, well the issue is in the show I don't think they ever faced much between a 35mm class of cannon on an APC, and only I think once and firing some kind of high explosive/HEAT style of ammo, and giant, large house or small apartment building sized monsters trying to smash them. Assault rifle and grenade launcher fire was useless, and bear sized quasi cyborg living metal robots were totally useless against them. Most fighting was hand to hand to hand. Generally I wouldn't watch something like that but, since I sort of liked the first one for all its problems, and since it was free online I half watched it, literally, let it have half the screen, the semi squeal/complete change of plot 2040 series, which turned out to have been more then a little Evangelion influenced.