40k space marine VS Murbella

[khursed]

I am a big fan of both Dune universe, and 40k, I was wondering... Do you think that Murbella, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murbella for a quick refresh, could beat a space marine?

I've always wondered who would win also between Murbella and Miles Teg, and if they both could stand to any Astarte, or if you'd need someone like Lucius the eternal to defeat them?

There is also the question of weapons, since the Dune characters were describe as mostly fighting unarmed, I would imagine to make it fair, they would have to fight with just body parts.

Then in case you think Murbella or Miles Teg could kill an Astarte, what about a Primarch?

I'd put money on the wimpiest Primarch to defeat either.

But for a normal space marine, it would be an interesting fight for sure.

[Irbis]

Punch can't penetrate power armour, while all marine needs is one good hit to kill enemy. Given the fact virtually all marines also have ranged weaponry, Murbella needs to walk through shower of mini-grenades from automatic launcher. Oh, marines also have regular grenades, to which they are largely immune, something the other side can't even dodge. How is this supposed to be a contest, again?

If marine had no armour, closer contest, but good luck killing someone with armoured skeleton, ability to spit acid (again, ranged) and superhuman strength.

[Lord Revan]

correct me if I'm wrong that don't even the weakest primarch's have some kind passive psykic abilities booting their combat abilities.

[Cykeisme]

Yeah, some kind of warp fuckery gives the Primarchs supernatural durability. They are also demigods, able to cleave through armies of Astartes like a hot scythe through warm butter. Probably best to keep this to Astartes.

Also note that "Astartes" vary as much as "men", ranging from the equivalent of a new Battle Brother who's seen nary half a dozen wars (superhuman in terms of physical abilities but not really in terms of experience), to Chapter Champions three centuries in age that have dueled and bested scores of scary boss aliens, Chaos-empowered champions etc.

The Wikipedia article says she has superhuman reflexes, but so do the Astartes (alongside the survivability and strength enhancing genetic enhancement). Probably need some specific passages about Murbella kicking ass to figure this one out, though. If she's sufficiently awesome it may well go in her favor. 40k itself has plenty of crazy shit that give the Astartes the run for their money.

Also a part of her Honored Matre heritage is her ability to amplify sexual ecstasy to near unimaginable levels.

On the other hand, Space Marines have virtually zero ability to induce any sexual ecstasy whatsoever in other individuals (or indeed, anyone at all). Murbella's definitely got the contest licked here.

[Irbis]

The Wikipedia article says she has superhuman reflexes, but so do the Astartes (alongside the survivability and strength enhancing genetic enhancement). Probably need some specific passages about Murbella kicking ass to figure this one out, though. If she's sufficiently awesome it may well go in her favor. 40k itself has plenty of crazy shit that give the Astartes the run for their money.

The problem is difference in durability. One recent WH book has Captain Sicarius going against crazy warp-empowered woman with dagger capable of penetrating his armour. She proves too fast for him and manages to stab him through heart...

...and all it does is giving Sicarius opening to grab her hand and casually snap her neck. I am not even sure if he needed heart replacement, or if it regenerated on its own.

Also a part of her Honored Matre heritage is her ability to amplify sexual ecstasy to near unimaginable levels.

On the other hand, Space Marines have virtually zero ability to induce any sexual ecstasy whatsoever in other individuals (or indeed, anyone at all). Murbella's definitely got the contest licked here.

Space Wolves beg to differ, as would Emperor's Children, I guess

[The Yosemite Bear]

which reminds me what happens when She who thirsts gets out sexed by yet another clone of Duncan Idaho?

[Cykeisme]

Yes I stand corrected.
Many or all Slaaneshi traitor Astartes are probably highly proficient in that field.
Why Space Wolves, though? I'm not questioning the veracity of the statement, just wasn't aware of it.

[The Yosemite Bear]

because Space Wolves still party like their Vikings and it's 799

[Darksider]

because Space Wolves still party like their Vikings and it's 799

Not anymore they don't. Current fluff has them just sit around in halls and drink and generally be sullen, depressed motherfuckers.

I think you know who we can all thank for that..

[Irbis]

Not anymore they don't. Current fluff has them just sit around in halls and drink and generally be sullen, depressed motherfuckers.

Yesss, it's not like current Codex has them partying with women during their feasts (plus hints these were unclothed parties). Or like it includes Lucas with his ninja bedding skills. Nope, they're all Word Bearer like celibates now.

I think you know who we can all thank for that.

You mean worst current GW writer who is responsible for 3 worst Codices of 5th edition?

[Lord Relvenous]

Not anymore they don't. Current fluff has them just sit around in halls and drink and generally be sullen, depressed motherfuckers.

Yesss, it's not like current Codex has them partying with women during their feasts (plus hints these were unclothed parties). Or like it includes Lucas with his ninja bedding skills. Nope, they're all Word Bearer like celibates now.

I think you know who we can all thank for that.

You mean worst current GW writer who is responsible for 3 worst Codices of 5th edition?

Ward didn't write the SW codex, though. O.o

@OP: While the combat powers the Honored Matres show is impressive, nothing I ever read about them communicated to me that they could best a Space Marine in anyway besides maybe speed (and Space Marines are pretty f'ing fast if they want to be, so maybe not even that).

Now if by "unarmed" and "just body parts" you mean an unarmored Space Marine against an Honored Matre, well maybe then it could be a contest. At least in that situation the Honored Matre can at least target vulnerable areas.

[The Yosemite Bear]

yes, but it's pointed out that Duncan clones beat the honored matre....