I just finished watching Caprica, and while I was never a real hater of BSG's ending, I did feel that the arena and epilogue was an absolute tour de force compared to the slow and confused wind-down on Earth.
One thing stuck in my head, though - how the frack did Sister Clarice escape justice? As she said herself, law enforcement knew where she lived. Most of her immediate allies were killed in the arena, and around that time the off-world the power base on Gemenon would have been going though Cylon-aided "restructuring", putting them in a poor place to help.
So how did she manage to escape unscathed? All Battlestar Wiki has to say is "In subsequent years, Clarice Willow appeared to avoid any serious legal consequences for her crimes and remained free" - which is obvious, but explains exactly nothing of how.
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but I didn't find anything in a quick search.
[Caprica] The fate of Clarice Willow? (Spoilers)
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Re: [Caprica] The fate of Clarice Willow? (Spoilers)
Trying to remember. Wasn't the head of that police force (can't remember the initials) still around after the dust settled?
In which case, she would be pretty safe. Also, it's likely there were other high ranking monothiests so unless she was seen shooting someone in cold blood on national TV she might be ok.
In which case, she would be pretty safe. Also, it's likely there were other high ranking monothiests so unless she was seen shooting someone in cold blood on national TV she might be ok.
Re: [Caprica] The fate of Clarice Willow? (Spoilers)
Hadn't thought of the chief. Last we see him, Daniel's right-hand man has him at gunpoint in the Graystone house. Regardless how that encounter ended, given that the Graystones were clearly redeemed and back on top of things in the epilogue, the police chief must have been taken down.
Re: [Caprica] The fate of Clarice Willow? (Spoilers)
Well, it could be something like "The Greystones were an honest mistake." He gets his wrist slapped, vows to be more careful in the future. The guy who was holding the gun on him had an obvious axe to grind since he'd been dismissed. The bad guy keeps his head down for awhile, keeps his position with the aid of other conspirators in the government, and it's business as usual.
Was there any hard evidence against Clarice after it was all done that couldn't be explained away?
Or it could be that Clarice was in hiding somewhere. Remember that that church where we see her preaching to the Cylons is in V World so she could be anywhere.
Or she could have even finally had an avatar made of herself just before going to prison and what we see is her avatar.
I dunno. I guess I don't have any obvious flashes of insight. I'll have to watch the last couple episodes again to say more.
Or it could be a plot hole. Not like it would be the first in the Battlestar universe. Hopefully not though.
Was there any hard evidence against Clarice after it was all done that couldn't be explained away?
Or it could be that Clarice was in hiding somewhere. Remember that that church where we see her preaching to the Cylons is in V World so she could be anywhere.
Or she could have even finally had an avatar made of herself just before going to prison and what we see is her avatar.
I dunno. I guess I don't have any obvious flashes of insight. I'll have to watch the last couple episodes again to say more.
Or it could be a plot hole. Not like it would be the first in the Battlestar universe. Hopefully not though.
Re: [Caprica] The fate of Clarice Willow? (Spoilers)
That's possible, though there is a fair amount of circumstantial evidence (ignoring the bomb threat, the fake informant getting killed, possibly something on Clarice's holoband) that could lead to other things if they dug. Of course, the GDD could just be so corrupt that he would manage to sweep all that under the rug.Tethis wrote:Well, it could be something like "The Greystones were an honest mistake." He gets his wrist slapped, vows to be more careful in the future. The guy who was holding the gun on him had an obvious axe to grind since he'd been dismissed. The bad guy keeps his head down for awhile, keeps his position with the aid of other conspirators in the government, and it's business as usual.
Well, she lived in the same house as most of the bombers, the Graystones had her holoband with the bombing simulation and heaven programs on it, and her fingerprints would probably be all over the scenes of the STO members she killed/had killed. Plus circumstantial evidence like her being on Gemenon at suspicious times, and the testimony of Zoe 2.0 (if that counted).Was there any hard evidence against Clarice after it was all done that couldn't be explained away?
That's probably most likely. She probably had a fall-back location or resources if she was blown, now you mention it. The only trouble would be getting to Gemenon and back, but there's got to be black market and smuggler flights (the STO recruits used that one shuttle).Or it could be that Clarice was in hiding somewhere. Remember that that church where we see her preaching to the Cylons is in V World so she could be anywhere.
Hadn't thought of that. Not sure if she had the expertise to do it, even Daniel Graystone couldn't pull it off - considering how the dead bombers just stood around until Zoe obliterated heaven, I was never sure if they had cracked true-to-life avatar creation or just fudged it.Or she could have even finally had an avatar made of herself just before going to prison and what we see is her avatar.
Re: [Caprica] The fate of Clarice Willow? (Spoilers)
Keep in mind that if the GDD (and possibly other government agencies) are compromised, they'll be LOOKING for a way to explain it away. The only way she'd be in trouble is if there were absolutely no way to sweep it under the rug.
About the avatars. Remember that they weren't doing it from scratch like Daniel Graystone was. They had Zoe's program.
About the avatars. Remember that they weren't doing it from scratch like Daniel Graystone was. They had Zoe's program.