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Dark angels series analysis thread

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Had this one on a backburner for awhile, actually a long time, but since Gav Thorpe has decided to do that whole 'Legacy of Caliban' series I figure its a good time to start up a dedicated Dark Angels thread. Still working through all my stuff, I figure once I get Ultrasmurfs and Dark Angels done, I'll start Cain, the Ghosts, Ravenor, and/or the Imperial Guard series (at least once I get done with some of the other stuff.)

The Dark Angels series is one of those I find that is 'better' than average Space Marines becuase it seems to try to be more than a 'kill em up' story. Like the Ultramarines, or Rynn's World, or the Night Lord's trilogy, it tries to explore the nature of the Dark Angels and their obsession with secrecy, redemption, and their own pride/honor. Indeed, the first novel, Angels of Darkness, is something of a tragedy in that respect, as the almighty Dark Angels ultimately get tricked because of their arrogance and pride.

Angels of Darkness, the first novel and a sort of 'prequel' was written way back in the past and has onyl recently been 'picked up' both in terms of the aformentioend series as well as in the horus Heresy novels (some of the characters like Astelan make an appearance there, as do some of the underlying themes like 'The Lion is a paranoid asshole.') It deals with a Dark Angels Chaplain and member of the Deathwing, Boreas, who is basically a total asshole. The series comes in two parts - the present day, where Boreas and his squad are drawn into a pursuit of the Fallen (renegade Dark Angels) whilst in guardianship over a recruiting world. The second part is the past, where we witness Boreas conducting an interrogation with Astelan, a captured Fallen.

The interplay between the 'past' and the 'present' is what is the compelling part about the series. Over the course of the book we see Boreas progress from a sanctimonous, self-certain prick to being something more humble, more human, and generally more likable and respectable. The interactions with Astelan provide a contrast to the 'Present' Boreas, and we see through both that Boreas gradually comes to question the Essential Rightness of the Dark Angels cause. He's ultimately forced to a choice - the Chapter's Honor (or at least how its perceived honor) and its duty (rather the duty to those they protect.) It is, in its essence, a story about transition and revelation and choices, both for Astelan and Boreas. As one surrenders to the tortures of the Deathwing and 'repents', so does Boreas come to believe the Dark Angel way is wrong and seeks his own sort of atonement.

The Ravenwing novel, which I'll go into detail later, seems to continue that thread, although it treats Boreas' revelations as being less certain, as there is conflict between the prevailing Dark Angel attitudes and Boreas interpretation of matters. It will be interesting to see how that story progresses.


Like most of my stuff I'll be trying to chuck it out fairly fast, because I'm wanting to push thorugh a bunch of stuff and continue clearing out as much backlog as I can. wish I'd started this sooner, but we're making progress!


Page 11
Turning right at one particular junction, a peripheral movement caught Astelan's eye and he glanced to his left. In the shadows he saw a diminutive being, no higher than his waist, almost hidden in the darkness. It was little more than a small robe, but from the depths of the black hood two eyes glittered with a cold, blue light as the strange creature regarded Astelan. As suddenly as he had spotted it, the watcher in the dark faded back into the shadows and was gone.
Watcher in the Dark.


Page 13-14
"Arcanatum energis!" Samiel spat. Blue bolts of lightning leapt from the psyker's fingertips and struck Astelan full in the chest, hurling him across the room to slam into the wall. Ancient stone cracked and splintered under the impact and Astelan grimaced with pain from the blow.
...
"Sleep!" Samiel exerted his will again, and this time Astelan's resistance was stronger and he fought off the urge to close his eyes for several seconds. His gaze caught that of the Librarian, and in that moment, the full force of the psyker's mind was unleashed.
...
His attention was locked and he felt his will drain­ing away, leeching into the witchfires that burned in the psyker's eyes.

"Sleep..." Samiel repeated and Astelan fell into uncon­sciousness.
Psyker forces Astelan into unconsciousness. Also psyker force lightning trick.


Page 15
...the Chaplain, Boreas, had arrived, flanked by Space Marines in white heavy Terminator armour. The uncon­ventional form of their livery and the barbaric decorations of bones and feathers had only added to Astelan's confusion, as had the term Boreas had used to describe them - the Deathwing.
A reference I think, to Bill King's "Deathwing" short story, which is, I think, partly or mostly non canon, but is still homaged in various sources and in various ways.


Page 15
He had not resisted, in his ignorance, when they had manacled his hands with thick chains of titanium, so that even in his armour he could not break the links.
Power armored marine cannot breack "thick chains of titanium"


Page 15
Astelan was unsure how long the journey had taken, several weeks at least, before Boreas had returned with the gag and the hood, and the shuttle had brought him to the hidden landing pad.
If we assume around 1200 LY (a figure mentioned eariler, but not for that precise destination) speed would be somewhere i the vicinity of tens of thousands of c. The figure would fit in roughly with "hundreds or thousands of LY" between worlds, anyhow.



Page 19
"You forget that a million serfs toiled in the fields of our homeworld to keep us clothed and fed, and in the forges and machine shops to arm us, and on our ships and in the factories."
If we're talking about a legion,that's between 10-100 serfs per Astartes. I suspect its an approximation, since Caliban had a far greater population than that (of course not all of them may have been devoted to the AStartes in particular, but to the military effort in general.)


Page 20
"The Legions were broken up so that no single man could wield that kind of power again."
"An act done by weak-willed men who were jealous of us, and afraid of what we were," said Astelan, moving his head to keep Boreas in sight. "I commanded a thousand Space Marines, just one of many Dark Angels Chapter commanders, and whole worlds fell before our wrath. I would have taken Tharsis in a single day, but you waged war upon me for ten times as long."
- Astelan notes that Heresy-era Space Marine Chapters were still 1000 men (they just had higher organization into Legions. It's an interesting commentary on the conflicting viewpoints of Heresy Era Marines and Modern, which is one of the key and interesting points about the novel. It's especially interesting in context ot the HEresy series. You'd have to wonder how this novel would be if it was re-written to reflect current events like that (we know Astelan shows up quite a bit)


Page 21
"A world that laboured for your pride? Ten million souls in chains to fuel your ambition? Indentured workers, conscript sol­diers, all the fettered minions of your greed."

"I have learnt that the realm of the Emperor stretches over more than a million worlds," explained Astelan, as he pictured the vast factory-cities of Tharsis. "The num­bers of humanity are beyond counting, millions of billions of them teeming across star systems, in space ports and on ships. Crammed atop each other in the hive cities, scattered beneath the rocks of the mining worlds, imprisoned in floating reformatories. I say again that we are all slaves to the will of the Emperor."
- The Imperium stretches over "more than a million worlds" and "millions of billions" of people inside that Imperium.. eg Quadrillions.. and that's just an estimate. It does fit well with current edition fluff numbers, though.


Page 26
Alert to any possible danger, multi-barrelled weapons tracked back and forth beneath the gunship's wings as it pulled up from the screaming dive and levelled out barely ten metres above the tops of the trees.
Multi barreld-wing mounted gunship weapons.


Page 27
Clad in his black power armour, he was an imposing sight. Thick plates of dense alloys covered with ablative ceramite pro­tected his entire body. Beneath the crushing weight of the armour, bundles of muscle-like fibres expanded and con­tracted in response to his every moment, allowing him to move as swiftly as if unencumbered. His skull-helmeted head was flanked by two immense shoulder pads, mounted on actuators that constantly changed their position, allowing him free movement and all-round vis­ibility, but providing a near-impenetrable shield against attack from the flank. All of this was powered by the backpack plugged into the spine of his armour, linked directly into his own nervous system so that he could reg­ulate the power to his suit as effortlessly as he controlled the beating of his twin hearts or the combat stimulants his armour could pump into his bloodstream at a moment's notice.
- Power armour described: The large shoulder pads on Space Marine armor is meant to protect the head against attack from the flank. They're mounted on actuators that allow them to be moved to trade visibility for protection. His suit is also powered by a "backpack" power source plugged into the armor's spine and linked to his nervous system, allowing for instinctive/automatic regulation. There are also varied stimulants that can be injected into the bloodstream by the armor (such as pain-suppressing.)



Page 27
Even without the strength-boosting properties of his armour, Boreas's genetically enhanced physiology made him many times stronger and faster than a normal human. ARmoured for battle he could crush a man's skull in his fist and punch through the armour of a tank. Hundreds of relays within the armour bolstered his already acute senses, feeding him a constant stream of information from extra senses, his specially developed brain assessing them all subconsciously as a normal man might look with his eyes and hear with his ears.
Boreas is "many times stronger and faster" than normal humans, and can penetrate tank armour with a punch. Hundreds of relays for senses, and all that data is subconsciously processed (part of the astartes creation process seems to have been optimized specifically for interacting iwth power armor. not surprising, really.)



Page 27-28
"Terrorsight," Boreas muttered, his armour's audio pick-up detecting the sub-vocal command. His view blurred and changed. The people of the village now stood out as stark outlines, and he could see their organs and their veins pulsing with life beneath their skin. It took a moment for Boreas's straining eyes to discern the overlapping shapes and colours, until he could make sense of his surroundings again. To the villagers who stared open-mouthed at him, the eyes of his helmet turned from a dull red to a blaze of energy and an awed murmur rippled over the settlement.

Boreas calmly looked around the caldera, his enhanced vision passing through the rock to gaze at the people concealed within the caves, at their crude bedding and furniture all picked out as a maze of grey and green lines.
Terrorsight described.. sounds basically like radar or maybe a sophisitcated preysight.
I've heard it said Gav intended it to be like some sort of terahertz sensor or something.

Page 28
When he had first been gifted with his armour, more finely crafted and filled with auxiliary systems than even standard power armour, he had thought the terrorsight a miracle. However, he had soon learned that to use it for too long could lead to severe disorientation and nausea, despite the many months of training and his centuries of experience.
- Boreas' chaplain armour seems with more "auxiliariy" systems than standard armour, including the "terrorsight".


Page 29
"Twice now in my life the warriors of the stars have visited my peo­ple, and twice now they have taken the best of our sons to fight with them."
Would suggest the Dark Angles recruit from a given world once a generation or so.


Page 29
"External address," Boreas sub-vocalised, his helmet amplifying his voice so that it reached across the whole village. Reaching into his memory, Boreas recalled the name of the leader of this particular tribe.

..

"A generation of our strongest have passed while your eyes were elsewhere, but the next worthy ascendants are ready to prove themselves to you."
Vox amplification of voice (External address) and confirmation about the generation thing.


Page 30
The geothermal energy stations that had once leeched energy from the planet's core had fallen into disrepair and malfunctioned. The planet had been wracked by massive earthquakes that destroyed the mighty cities, killed the population by the million, plunging the world into a new age of barbarism.

Now Piscina V was dominated by immense volcanoes, the belching fumes from their fiery outbursts replacing the smog of a hundred thousand factories.
Like in the "Spear of Vengeance" campaign we learn that the planet has the magical geothermal power sources that can devastate the whole world in a nasty way.

Also the place has a hundred thousand factories, so this isnt exactly a super-primitive system the Dark Angels watch over.


Page 31
...was a shape that Boreas recognised, crafted from long-forgotten materials resistant to the planet's harsh environment - fan blades, gears and wheels, circuitry drawn with intricate crystal layers, ceramic bottles that glowed with their own light.
Imperial tech.


Page 39
Boreas reckoned him to be little more than twelve or thirteen Terran years of age - perfect for the Dark Angels purposes.
12-13 years old is ideal age for Astartes recruits.



Page 40
As Varsin writhed, Nestor stood there calmly while the narthecium took what it needed. Automatic probes scored samples from the boy's stomach lining, extracted blood, bile and other fluids, measured blood pressure and pulse rate, injected anti-toxicants and cauterised wounds. The glowing amber light on the back of the device turned red and Nestor withdrew his fist. With a quick movement, a web of needles extended and stitched the wound shut in a matter of seconds. Varsin lay there covered with sweat, tears running down his face, his chest heaving under Nestor's palm.
Narthecium bracer on Nestor's arm taking the samples and tests needed to evaluate the genetic compatibility of a potential recruit. Also deliberate brutality, i suspect, to weed out the weak willed (given what happens shortly after.


Page 40
"ninety-eight per cent tissue match for suitability," The apothecary told him, consulting the green display on his arm. "No endemic illnesses or inherited disorders. Acceptable tolerance levels of toxic influences, average life signals and pain response. The boy is perfect, physically speaking."
an ideal Astartes candidate.



Page 43
Sharp prowed and sleek, dominated by its massive engines, the Blade of Caliban looked like a space-borne predator. It was not so far from the truth; one of the fastest ships in the sector, the rapid strike vessel was built for extended patrols across dozens of explored and uncharted star systems, to respond with speed to any situation, and yet carried enough firepower to destroy anything of similar size.

Though considered small for a warp-capable vessel, it was nearly half a kilometre in length and could in theory carry half a company of Space Marines, although its primary function was to act as the Chapter's eyes and ears, the duty of transportation and war falling to the larger Strike cruisers and immense battle barges.

Fully a third of the starship's length was taken up by its powerful plasma engines and the reactors to drive them, almost the entirety of the rest of the structure was pin-pricked with gun emplacements, scanning areas, and launch bays. At the fore, the heavily armoured prow was pierced by the dark holes of its torpedo tubes.
the Blade of Caliban, a Dark Angels escort (rapid strike vessel). It presents us with an interesting quandry, as at half a km long, it is smaller than any Naval escort that has warp capability, yet it is fast (powerful engines), well armed (able to take on any other escort, including one larger like a destroyer or frigate I wager), and it can carry half a company of marines and still operate across a considerable distance. So apparently, no tradeoffs, despite the smallest warp capable ship in the navy being 1 km long.

And if that isn't enough, the ship is not particularily fast when considered against other novels (EG Sabbat Martyr) its travle speeds topping out at hundreds, perhaps thousands of km/s.

Several possibilities to explain this are: Its a high tech ship cuz its Astartes (which are usually able to pack in the durability and firepower of a larger shp into a smaller package), it's packing powerful engines with short legs (EG it can accelerate fast, but its top speed is limited) and it has a quick warp drive. It may also lack combat endurance (throw a heavy weight but not for very long.) I also suspect it has a smaller crew than normal, as most Astartes ships do, which can cut on its combat endurance. Limited facilities onboard (EG small hangar, etc.) probably would also save on space.


Page 44
It was not unusual for an aspirant from a feral world to suffer such catastrophic culture shock and Nestor had quietened him with a narcolepsia. If the boy did not recover his senses soon, he would be useless as a recruit and the techpriests would take him, scrub his mind of the traumas and turn him into a servitor so that he might still be of service to the Chapter.
Feral worlders can suffer adversely when exposed to higher tech Imperial society. This tends to undercut, IMHO their value as troopers as well. The insane get turned into servitors.


Page 44
The Space Marines had discarded their helmets, and their backpacks were locked into stowage positions to recharge from the gunship's engines while their armour functioned on its own internal power source.
- the space Marine backpack power sources can be disconnected and recharged from the powerplant of a Thunderhawk (and presumably other powerplants as well.) The armour still has an "internal power source" independent of this that allows the armour to function (but presumably at reduced capability.) This indicates a certain amount of redundancy. It also tends to suggest that, unlike other sources, these suits aren't running off reactors.


Page 45
"It is said that the Imperium of the Emperor holds more worlds than it does Space Marines. You have passed only the first tests, there are many more to come. Some do not survive, but those who fail and live to tell of it will serve the Chapter in other ways, as do these serfs."
Probably does. This can either be because a.) MArines take hefty attrition and cna often fall below chapter maximums even with frequent recruiting and b.) some sources indicate millions if not billions of worlds exist in the Imperium.


Page 45
"If, and it is only if, you become a Space Marine it takes years of training and surgery. I myself was twelve summers old when I was chosen, but I was eighteen before I received my black carapace."
"What is that? Your armour?" asked Varsin.
"Yes and no"
Black Carapace is armor as wellas an interface. Also it took 5-6 years to make an Astartes.


Page 46
"My brethren in the apothecarion will change your body, making it grow strong like ours. You will be given new lungs to breathe poison, and a second heart so that your blood might continue to flow in the heat of battle despite grievous wounds. We will give you the precious gene-seed of the Lion, and his greatness will flow through your veins and be bound into your bones.You will feel no pain, you shall have the strength of ten men, you will see in the dark as clearly as day and you will hear an assassin's breath over the thunder of a storm. Lastly, you shall have the black carapace that melds your body to your armour so that you can wear it as you might a second skin."
Space Marine enhancements.


Page 47
It took several days for the Blade of Caliban to return to Piscina IV. Unlike the feral fifth world, Piscina IV had maintained a veneer of civilisation through the Age of Strife, and when the Dark Angels had reclaimed the world during the Great Crusade, they had been welcomed with open arms by the humans living there. In many ways, Piscina was perfect for the Dark Angels' purposes. The barbaric warriors of the fifth planet provided excellent recruits - natural and hardy warriors that could only be found on such deathworlds, or in the savage depths of a hive-world. But the semi-cultured fourth world gave them a place for their outpost, a haven they could dwell in without interfering with the development of the tribesmen of Piscina V.
- it took the Rapid Strike vessel several days to travel from the fifth to the fourth planet of the Piscina system. We don't know the exact distances involved. If they are adjacent and passing near by each other (shortest-time route) they can't be more than an aU or so apart (habitable zone) 2 gees for 2 days of constant burn, and a 1700 kps max velocity. Were it half an AU, the velocity and acceleration will be halved. Neither of which is particularily fast, even by rogue trader RPG standards.

If the planets are on opposite ends of the system (multiple AU apart) the situation is different. For example at 2 AU acceleration would be 4 gees and 1.1% of the speed of light (3300 kps) at 3 AU 5000 kps and 6 gees. 5 au can nab us 10 gees and nealy 3% of c (8000-9000 kps). I doubt it would be much beyond that, 3-4 AU would be closer to the limit, even allowing for a curving course around the star. This is not neccesarily upper limit for the ship's performance, of course, but its still going to pale performance wise to a good many other starships in other novels. Gav Thorpe does this fairly often actually :)


Page 47
Long dormant, the same geo-thermal activity that had created such a world now provided the inhabitants with much of their power, and Boreas could see the thermal venting from the power stations hanging as a thick haze over the island, obscur­ing the ground below the tips of the volcanoes.
Geothermal power is common on the Piscina Planets, much as we saw in Spear of Vengeance.


Page 48
"Thunderhawk communication," Boreas commanded the comms pick-up in his armour, which was then boosted by the gunship's longer ranged array. "This is Interrogator-Chaplain Boreas, how may we be of assis­tance, colonel?"
Power armour comms boosted by the Thunderhawk's relays.


Page 48
" have three infantry platoons already at the battle zone, and three armoured fist platoons en route, but the greenskins will be well and truly dug in by the time they arrive. "

..

Brade's men were currently outnumbered, Boreas cal­culated quickly, and despite the armoured personnel carriers and light support tanks of the armoured fist pla­toon, they would find it hard to establish any foothold with which to launch a concerted effort on the mine head.
IG Garrison forces on the planet.. 3 infantry platoons and 3 armoured fist platoons who have APcs and "light tanks".


Page 49
"Engage machine-spirit to take us in. Open the armoury and dis­tribute jump packs.'"
Thunderhawks, or at least Boreas's thunderhawk, carries its own jump packs.


Page 49
His large hands danced quickly over the controls of the gun­ship before he stood up and made his way to the armoured section at the back of the Thunderhawk. Con­trolled by its own artificial mind, the gunship steered its way down through the clouds towards Vartoth.
The thunderhawk is AI controlled, basically.


Page 53
The orks mobbed him, battered at his armour with the butts of their stolen guns, but were thrown back as his rosarius burst into life, blinding them with its white glare.
- Boreas's rosarius shield seems to auto-activate in reaction to be swarmed by orks and repels them (throws them back.) This MAY imply the shield is sensor operated/activated (reactive to the presence of enemy or weapons fire it would seem) and that it cna repel significant mass/momentum as well as smaller ones (the mass of several orks.), but it's also possible they were simply dirven back by the blinding effect and shock (suggesting this Rosarius has an effect like a conversion field rather than a refractor field.)


Page 53
Boreas blew the head off another ork with a close range shot from his bolt pistol, while behind him Zaul and Nestor battered their way through the green-skinned aliens with their fists, smashing bones and tearing at flesh with their inhumanly strong hands. The orks were no weaklings, their slab-like muscles more than capable of viciously wounding a normal man, their tusks and claws capable of tearing flesh from the bone. But they were as children when matched against the armoured might of the Dark Angels.
- Boreas uses his bolt pistol to blow off an Ork's head in a single shot. Rather curious, as we see later in this and other examples, the bolt pistol doesn't always do explosive damage (or does less damage). This may be due to the kinetic/impact effects of the bolt (overpenetrating before detonating) in some cases. Alternately Boreas' pistol has a selector option or he just carries different kinds of ammo.

It is also indicated that while the Orks are strong, these ones aren't nearly as strong as Space MArines. They can, of course, grow much tougher. :D



Page 54
There were eight more orks in the room, but as they prepared to charge, Zaul appeared at Boreas's side and tossed a grenade forward. Two were shredded instantly in the blast, the others hurled to the ground
- Space marine grenade shreds two Orks. That's going to be more powreufl than a modern grenade based on the difference in Ork size/mass alone.


Page 55
Though always respectful and well meaning, Brade's frequent requests for more Dark Angels to be stationed on Piscina were beginning to wear Boreas's patience. He had explained numerous times that Space Marines were not intended to garrison worlds en masse, and were it not for the recruiting world of Piscina V, the Imperial Guard would have been left to defend the planet on their own without even the aid of Boreas and his squad.
Not quite true, although this sounds more like dark Angel arrogance than anything. some worlds have had Space Marine Garrisons, but it is uncommon. And usually only recruiting worlds have it. The vast majority are too busy out fighting in space.


Page 61
"My word is the word of the Emperor himself. My sword is his sword. Every battle I have fought has been in his name. He had a vision - to drive back the aliens and the mutants, to unite mankind under his rule and guidance. He strove for humanity, to take back the stars that had once been ours, a vision we had thrown away for petty-minded goals and the wor­ship of technology. From the ashes of the Age of Strife, the Emperor arose to lead us back into the galaxy, to conquer the stars and to safeguard our future. He alone saw this, and it was the Emperor who created us to ful­fil his vision. It was we, the Space Marines, who were to be the instrument of creation. It was our duty, our whole purpose, to forge the Emperor's dream into a reality"
Astelan talks about the Emperor's vision in the Heresy Era.


Page 61
"The Great Crusade was not intended to be an event; it is a state of mind. The crusade never finishes, it is never com­plete while there is an alien alive to threaten our worlds, and while discord lingers in the heart of the Imperium."
Astelan comments on the Great Crusade. This is pretty interesting, considering that at the start of Horus rising we were seeing the inevitable conflicts betwene the offensive minded Expeditionary fleets, the Astartes and Primarchs ruling them, and the bureacratic and adminsitrative elements of the Imperium that were slowly starting to infiltrate and gain control.


Page 62
"On my own I could not win the war purely by martial effort. But my skills, my knowl­edge, could still save Tharsis from the renegades. I handed my weapons over to the Imperial commander's tech­priests so that they might study them and turn the munitions factories over to production of superior arms. I had the hundred best soldiers sent to me at the capital. There I trained them in everything I knew. For half a year, I pushed and pushed them. Many did not survive, and at first there were doubts. The Imperial commander had full faith in me, but his aides expressed concerns over my methods. Their self-importance was galling - who were they, bureaucrats and priests, to argue with a Chapter com­mander of the Dark Angels on military matters? I ignored them, and the protests were silenced when I led my elite company into battle for the first time. They were not Space Marines - five of my battle-brothers could have achieved what those sixty men did - but they were better equipped and more deadly than anything the rebels had faced before."
Astelan uses his own equipment and knoweldge to forge useful military forces on this planet... five Space marines were still better than 60 of those (1 marine = 12 men)


Page 63
"As the num­ber of sacred bands grew, the demand for bolters, ammunition, carapace armour, grenades and other weapons stretched the factories beyond capacity. The Imperial commander implemented my recommendation that we build more, for what use is farmland when the foe's hand is at your throat?"

..

"When we liberated Tharsis from your tyranny, you had turned it into a wasteland. The sprawl­ing factory-cities you had built were rife with destitution and crime. Is that what you bring for humanity?"

..

"Do not judge me on this, I have seen the Imperium you protect. Hive-worlds covered in desolate ash wastes, the populace crammed into kilometre-high spires like insects, labouring every hour, leeching every last handful of resource from their dead worlds to supply other planets with metal ore, machine parts, chemicals. And, of course, weapons and warriors for the armies of the Emperor."
Astelan and Boreas argue.. Again its hard to argue against Astelan's point about hive worlds. Interesting that he notes that hives commonly strip their worlds of every usable resource (which as I've noted in other novels, can mean trillions or quadrillions of tons of material mined/consumed from a world annually. This is probably not an average or a standar,d but it shows how - if they're not caring about conservation or only care about the tithes, they can strip a world bare in a matter of cneturies or millenia, which they have done before.)

Also Astelan equipped his "sacred bands" with carapace, bolters and other equipment based off his own gear, suggesting a similarity.


Page 63
"It is through mutual need that the Imperium is held together," said Boreas. "Each planet dependent upon another for food, or machines, or protection."

"And that is its weakness, for it is a fragile structure," declared Astelan, sitting up again as far as he could, filled with a resurgence of energy. "Self-serving Imperial com­manders compete with each other, risking the defence of the Emperor's domains to further their own ends. The most heavily guarded system can fall if its neighbours are overrun, its food or water supplies taken away. It is a tee­tering labyrinth supported by self-interest and mutual fear, no longer driven by the great ideal that drove us to create it."
Astelan does have a point, but so does Boreas. And at the same time both are wrong too. The Imperium DOES have a fair degree of inter-dependence and mutual need, and it is a fragile structure, because of specialization (EG forge and hive worlds need food and resources from mining and agri worlds to sustain themselves, which means that the former cna be taken out if denied the latter.) And at the same time, that "mutual need" creates the sorts of bonds and unity that hold the Imperium together, particularily at the sector/subsector level (economic and political bonds, especially.) At the same time, though, not all worlds like hive or forge worlds.. many are quite self sufficient in most respects, some may be totally self sufficient (even some hive and industrial worlds) They may still need or desire certain products, resources, etc from offworld, and this can still create inter-dependence.

And Astelan is right about the corruption - it's gotten relatively worse now than it was, when Primarchs and Space Marines had authority and there was still an Emperor. But tahts what happens when you have no single, unifying authority, and you created a culture that is both reactive, defensively minded, and is designed to resist change (sort of like America)






Page 68
"There was an Administratum census-taker on Tharsis less than a decade before you arrived, before there was any war, before your bloodthirsty regime. The records we examined listed the population of Tharsis at just less than eight hundred mil­lion people. When you took power, you kept very good records. You listed your soldiers, the workers, the supervi­sors and their families. Your sacred bands controlled everything, and it was all noted down. I saw those records before I left. You were right to say a generation gave its life for you. Your own scribes estimated the population to be between two hundred and two hundred and fifty million, a quarter of the people you proclaim to have saved!"
And this.. is where we see the drawbacks of the Crusade era Astartes. There is very much an "ends justify the means" attitude to Astelan, and he is definitely a reflection of the Astartes at that time - witness how they reacted to contemplating an ending to the Great Crusade. They are warriors bred for fighting wars.. but they will no longer have those sorts of wars very soon. Astelan drives to meet his goals, and succeeds.. but he devastates the planet to do so (something that happens often and is commented on in the HH series in fact.) and considers this an acceptable cost - something that is quite obviously abhorrent to Boreas' mindset. We get "old" vs "new" Astartes types, the offensively minded vs the defensively minded, and both make good arguments. Who is right?

I have to admit I like Boreas. While he is pompous and the Dakr Angels are pretty big asses in general, Gav did a good job of making him a sympathetic character even when being annoying - the fact he can care about human life (or seem to) even while pursuing his pet vendetta is rather credible.


Page 69
" There was no shared vision of the great Imperium, no collective effort to serve the Emperor. There were two million hired killers and two hundred million terrified slaves! How could a Chapter commander have fallen so low? Or per­haps you have always been like this. Perhaps blood-hungry maniacs were needed during the Great Crusade."
1 trooper per 200 civilians. Oh and Boreas hit the mark pretty close, although he's being a bit cruel since Astelan is and never was a maniac, or bloodthirsty. Hell that's even a sort of irony here - Astelan is standing in for the Crusade era Astartes who were pretty much as Boreas described, but Astelan himself (in the Crusade era) wasn't quite like that (cf Tales of Heresy short story.)


Page 72
"Even now, your power leeched away, the Legions divided, how many of the people within the Tower of Angels are not Space Marines. Tens, hundreds, thousands?"
"'The Chapter is maintained by roughly five hundred serfs, servitors and tech-priests," Boreas answered cau­tiously.
"Five hundred people for a thousand Space Marines, that does not sound too much," Astelan said with a wry look. "But what about beyond the walls of this fortress, on ships and in distant garrisons? The same number again? Probably many more. And the food you eat, the ammunition in your weapons, even the paint for your armour, where does this come from? Thousands, tens of thousands, labour every day so that you stand ready to fight, to guard them from the perils of the galaxy."
Astelan comments on the very accurate fact that Space Marines demand quite a hefty logistical tail to be able to do what they do. Some of which is organic to them and their planet, but in war they may have to rely on the Imperial allies to support them. Which is a subtle and interesting way of controlling the astartes (if they don't have the resources they can't conquer.)


Page 72
"The weak men in power feared the Legions, broke them apart so that now they are thrown to the corners of the galaxy, strewn across the stars and rendered impo­tent. The regiments of the Imperial Guard are clumsy, unwieldy weapons. I learnt much about them during my time on Tharsis, and I came to despise what they repre­sent. They rely on the ships of the Navy, which are controlled by a different organisation. A whole branch of the Administratum, the Departmento Munitorium, is dedicated to the sole matter of shipping regiments to war zones, and providing them with supplies. This you know, but you don't really understand what it means. Scribes and bookkeepers wage the wars of the Emperor now, not military officers. It is a shameful pile of politics and hier­archy, bogged down by its own complexity. Where has the vision gone? It was like my army on Tharsis had been, growing more unwieldy every passing day in an attempt to deal with its own unwieldiness. Who is there to carry on the Emperor's quest for a human galaxy free from danger? Clerks? Farmers? Miners?"
Here we get to the "warriors vs bureacrats" subplot in many a Heresy novel, and one can see the derision that Astelan has for the modern Imperium (influenced by his own early experiences with the bureacrats.) In the Imperium's defense Astelan is wrong in blaming it all on humans, since it was Guilliman who was instrumental in making many of thse changes (particulariyl when it comes to the military and marines) - and much of it was pushed precisely because of the Heresy he was caught up in - those divisions were meant to keep the Imperium from falling apart again in civil war like it did. And, without a single cohesive leader like the Emperor, I'm not sure it could have survived maintaining the Great Crusade. Not with the sort of weak, petty men he despises in charge.

Besides, the Imperium learned to adapt. It may not use Expeditionary fleets of the Astartes anymore, but it still has ways it carries out conquest and colonisation. Crusades, Rogue Trader armadas, even the Astartes Chapters have their own option to do these sorts of things. Much of what Astelan says has merit, because many of the flaws in the Imperium can be traced to "weak, petty men" and the politics and conflicts between the different organs of the Imperium. But Astelan is seeing this all through the eyes of someone nostalgic for and predisposed to favor the Great Crusade era, and he isn't seeing or acknowledging the inherent flaws in that.

It's interesting that Astelan considers the Guard to be vastly different from the Army, too.


Page 73-74
"Driven by meaningless dogma, they refused to endorse my claim as Imperial commander because I would not agree with them that the Emperor is a god," argued Astelan, struggling against the tightening of the chains. "Hah! I have walked alongside the Emperor, I have listened to Him speak, I have seen Him angry and sad. What do they know, with their carvings and paint­ings, their idolatry and superstitions? The Emperor is certainly more than a normal man, but a god? That was not his intent, and the fools who founded this Ecclesiarchy committed a grave error. The Emperor is not some distant figure to be worshipped, He is the will behind us all, the power that drives man to surmount the trials that face us. It was He who said that mankind must furnish itself with a destiny, and now that message has been thrown aside, so that the weak-willed can blame a god for their own shortcomings."
Again Astelan is right here.. the HH series shows the Emperor didnt think himself ag od or wnat to be. That said, while Space Marines can fill a role as Planetary governmor (on their homeworlds), such a practice can have drawbacks (EG Badab War comes to mind.)


Page 74
Astelan shook his head. "I was one of several thousand Chapter Masters, proud of my achieve­ments, but no more worthy of His attention then any other. I met the Emperor just once, on Sheridan's World, and then only briefly. Whenever I have doubts, I recall that meeting and the memory gives me purpose again. He spoke only a few words to me, praising the campaign, complimenting the fervour of my Chapter. It is the one true regret I have that I was not with him when they rediscovered Caliban. Perhaps if I had been there, things might have been different. But with the return of the primarchs everything changed, it was never the same as it had been when we followed the Emperor alone."
There were at least several thousand Chapters even prior to finding the Primarchs (when the Leginos expanded, at least doubling if not tripling in size.) that means millions of Marines pre-Primarch. Again (and this is another subplot) we see Astelan has a nostalgic view of things - he was a "terran-born" Marine, so he's obviously got different perspectives than a Marine who may originate from somewhere else (like Caliban.) This is something else that gets mentioned frequently in the HH series.


Page 82-83
"These days, having worked with your armour so much, I have learnt much of Mandeus's techniques, and now I will only be content if I make a suit as good as this one!"

"Would you not prefer to better Mandeus's work?" Boreas asked, walking to the bench and looking at the scattered pieces of servos and artificial muscle-fibres that Hephaestus had removed from the breastplate.
"If I can emulate his skill with the tools I have here and the time I have, then I will judge myself the better arti­san," Hephaestus said quietly. Boreas gave him a questioning look and the Techmarine continued. "The great artificers Mandeus, Geneon, Aster and their like all worked in the Tower of Angels, amongst the brethren, with acolytes to perform many of the duties that fill my days. You have seen the great armorium of our Chapter. It dwarfs the entirety of this keep!"
A bit of discussion about the Dark Angels manufacturing capability.


Page 84
Seeing the determined looked in the Techmarine's eye, Boreas gave a resigned nod and sat on the bench. Hep­haestus bent over him, his fingers working deftly at the mechanism of the bionic organ, and with an audible click, the main part of its workings came free. Simultane­ously, Boreas lost the sight in his right eye. It was not worrying for him - once a year Hephaestus would remove the eye to ensure it still worked smoothly. It was odd, however, that the Techmarine had asked to do so now, though, barely two months from his last check.

Taking a complex tool from his bench, Hephaestus unlocked the casing of the eye and slid the interior free. He delicately pulled free the lenses, polishing them on his cloth and setting them to one side, before delving inside the eye's innards with fine tweezers. Boreas studied Hephaestus with his good eye as the Techmarine continued his work, watching the inten­sity on the artisan's face as he examined his own construction. If Hephaestus was becoming overly con­cerned about Boreas's well-being, then perhaps the others had noticed his change of mood as well. The Interrogator-Chaplain resolved to speak to them when he was done here, to gauge their mood and ask them some pertinent questions. The inactivity and routine, though they had trained for it, had become monoto­nous. It had been two years since the Tower of Angels had last visited and the isolation from the rest of the Chapter might well have started taking its toll on them as it had done on Boreas.
Augmetic maintenance on Boreas' eye, as well as the roving nature of the dark Angels and the rarity of visits.


Page 86
New gene-seed was all but impossible to create - cer­tainly no Chapter Boreas knew of had ever achieved such a feat - and so future generations of Space Marines relied solely on the vital gene-seed storage organs that every Space Marine was implanted with. Every Marine had two progenoids, and in theory his death could help create two replacements. But despite the daring and brave efforts of the Apothecaries, too many progenoids were lost on the field of battle before they could be harvested to ever ensure the continued existence of a Chapter. It was the task of the Chaplains to teach every Space Marine of the legacy he held within himself, to educate them in their duty to the continued glory of the Chapter. A Space Marine was taught that although he may be asked to sac­rifice his life at any moment, he should never sell his life in vain, for by doing so he betrayed those who would come after him.
....
In death they lived on in newly created Space Marines. Some, those whose physical bodies could not be saved, might be interred in the mighty walking tanks called dread­noughts, to live on for a thousand years as gigantic warriors encased in an unliving body of plasteel, adamandum and ceramite. In such a way, over ten thou­sand years of the Imperium, there was a bond of brotherhood from the very first Space Marines to those who had only just been ordained as Scouts of the Tenth Company. It was this very physical relationship that bound together every warrior of the Chapter. Not merely for tradition's sake were they called battle-brothers.
- mention of the gene-seed and "progenoid glands". According to Boreas, new gene-seed was "all but impossible to create." and that he had never heard of any Chapter managing to do so, so new Space Marines were invariably created from the recovered progenoid glands. Each Marine has two glands, and could in theory create two new marines. Despite this, however, Boreas notes that "all too many progenoids were lost on the battlefield" before they could be recovered.

Superhuman as they are, in many of the novels Space Marines tend to take substnatial losses (less than some Guard regiments, but still) Given their fewer numbers, ,and the ffact they are constantly running around, its kind of surprising that Space marines aren't wiped out by attirtion, given the decades it takes to grow new organs (55 years IIRC Index Astartes.)

Those interred in Dreadnoughts can live on for "a thousand years", but probably longer in many cases.


Page 87
Boreas had served as one of the Dark Angels for nearly three hundred years, but at over six hundred years old Nestor was one of the oldest members of the Chap­ter. Boreas did not know why the veteran had not risen higher, why he had never been admitted to the Death­wing. Nestor was one of the finest Apothecaries on the field of battle, and Boreas owed his life to him when he had been wounded in the battle for the basilica. Nestor had also been honoured for his heroic fighting during the first ork assault on Koth Ridge.

In looks, the Apothecary was even more grizzled than Boreas. His thick, waxy skin was pitted and scarred across his face, and six service studs were hammered into his forehead, one for every century of service. His eyes were dark and his head shaved bald, giving the medic a men­acing appearance that was entirely at odds with the conscientious, caring man Boreas knew him to be.
- Nestor is noted here as one of the oldest members of the Chapter at over six hundred. This puts the dark Angels closely on par with the Space wolves for age. Not as old as the Blood Angels or White consuls perhaps, but close.


Page 88
Nestor disappeared for a moment before returning with one of his instruments, with which he gently probed at the cauterised flesh on the right side of Boreas's face. Most of it was in fact artifi­cial flesh grafted on the metal plate that replaced much of Boreas's temple, cheek and brow. He could feel the point dully prodding at his face as the Apothe­cary examined the old wound.
...
"There seems to be some tearing on the graft, nothing serious,"
....
"Do you think it could worsen?"
"Over time, yes it will. Some of the capillaries have retracted, others have collapsed, and the flesh is dying off slowly. It would require a new graft to heal completely" Nestor glanced around the apothecarion for a moment before continuing. "I do not have the facilities here to perform such a procedure, I am afraid. I will provide you with a solution to bathe your face in each morning, which should hopefully slow the necrofication. There is no need to worry about infection, your body is already more than capable of cleansing itself of any kind of dis­ease you might pick up on Piscina."
Boreas augmetic has a graft of (cauterised) artificial flesh. Oddly the flesh seems to behave alot like real flesh.. it can get infections, it can necrotise, and it can die off (having capillariies and presumably lacking blood flow due to tearing.) It might be vat grown flesh, or it might be artifiical skin (synth skin).


Page 90
"I have served the Emperor and the Lion for six centuries, and perhaps if I am fortunate I may serve him yet for two more."
Nestor seems to think he might live to be 800.. whether that is the limit of aging and he dies (suggesting Astartes really aren't immortal - or they aren't anymore) or he considers that the limit of his lifespan in battle (He wont be combat effective and will likely die out)


Page 91
He, along with his Scout squad and the now legendary Sergeant Naaman, had infiltrated the ork lines and, after gathering vital intelligence on the enemy, destroyed one of the relays the aliens had been using to power their massive orbital teleporter.
I beileve this is the Spar of Vengeance campaign... using remotely transmitted power relays to work the teleporter.


Page 92
Damas was amongst the fourteen youths under his tute­lage. Nearly half as tall again as his charges, even without his armour, he was a giant even by the standards of the Space Marines.

..

"Even before you are given bones and muscles like mine, I can teach you how to break a man's neck with a single blow. I can show you how to crush his internal organs with your fists, disable him with your fin­gers and cripple him with your elbows and knees."

He bent down and placed his plate-sized hand on the head of one of the youths.

"With the strength given to me by the Apothecaries and my faith, I can pulp your brain in a second," he told the boy, who laughed nervously, eliciting more laughter from the others. "More than that, I can withstand any attack you might make on me."
Damas "half again" as tall as a child. Also AStartes fighting abilities.


Page 92
Chastened, the boy charged with a shrill yell and flung his fist at Damas's abdomen. The blow would have merely winded an ordinary man, by Boreas's reckoning, and it failed to even rock Damas on his heels. The boy gave a squeal and clutched his bruised knuckles. Boreas chuckled, along with the aspirants. The only vital part of a Space Marine not protected by his black carapace was his head. Hearts, lungs, stomach, chest, all were impervi­ous to any unarmed blow from even the strongest assailant.
Black carapace provides significant protection against unarmed blows.


Page 93
"But only fourteen this sea­son? The Tower of Angels will be here in less than half a year, and they will be expecting thirty recruits for second-stage testing."
"Would you rather we fell short of our quota, than passed on boys who will fail within minutes?" asked Boreas. "If the quality is not there, it is not there."
The Sergeant notes that if they'd widened their recruiting pool they might gain more recruits, but Boreas refuses to let "savages" in. They have quotas too, which makes sense.


Page 93
"I have told you before that they are too bloodthirsty, even for our pur­poses. If we still had a whole company stationed here I would exterminate them. Some of their practices are, well, bordering on the intolerable. They have stopped worshipping the Emperor, and have reverted to a bar­barism I fear even we cannot strip them of with a decade of training."
DArk angels have limits to what they would endure from humans.


Page 95-96
Here was the industrial heart of Kadillus Harbour. Here were the massive docks where the enormous ocean-going harvesters came and went, and the high cranes and gantries that criss-crossed the bay to unload their cargoes of gas and minerals dredged from the sea floor. Factories spilt around the harbour like a stain, gouting smoke as they processed ore and smelted metals for transportation off-planet. Here were the hab-blocks, vast rockcrete struc­tures crammed with the million-strong workforce of Kadillus Harbour. Night was closing in and soon the loud klaxons and sirens would signal the end of the day shift and the start of the night watch. When dark descended, the thousands of furnaces and smelting works would light the sky with red.
Industrial facilities on planet. Million stron gworkforsce.


Page 96
Once, an entire company had been stationed here under the command of Master Belial. Now, only he and a handful of the campaign's veterans were left to defend the future of the Chapter. The Tower of Angels returned less and less frequently, and Boreas wondered how quickly those great deeds might be for­gotten.
Was once temporary facility for a full company, now less than a squad.


Page 96
The first thing he saw was the massive open apron of North-port, where starships landed and took off every week, bringing vital supplies and in return taking the mineral wealth of the planet away to distant systems.
Weekly trips to distant systems.. we odnt know how far away.. if within a sector subsecotr we could be talking tens or hundreds of Ly. and hundreds or thousands of C. Maybe tens of thousands depending on distance (esp if thousands of LY)


Page 98
It was to the bikes that he went. With huge reinforced tyres, armour plating and built-in bolters, each was closer in size to a small roadcar than a motorcycle, designed for Space Marines to make rapid hit-and-run strikes inside enemy-held terri­tory.
Space marine cycles.


Page 98
"I have your tracker on the oracle-screen," confirmed the battle-brother. The transponder built into the bike's chassis would transmit its position every few seconds, allowing the other Space Marines to home in on its location rapidly should the rider encounter danger or fail to report on schedule.
The bikes have built in viewscreens/sensors and transponders.


Page 99
He spotted the dark red uniform of a Kadillus security enforcer, and swung the bike over next to her. The woman, her head and eyes con­cealed behind a reflective glass visor, gaped openly as he came to a stop just ahead of her. In her hands she held a lasgun, which began to tremble in her nervous grasp.
Enforcer. Whether this is arbites or PDF I dont know.
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Part 2

Page 100
"If it gets any worse, we'll have to give the order to open fire."
"No!" snapped Boreas with a glance at the security offi­cers. "There will be no unnecessary deaths. Allow me to assess the situation. I will inform you of further action to take."
Boreas not being an asshole.


Page 101-102
Boreas began to walk towards the rioting mob, as bricks and chunks of masonry splintered on the road around him. Within a few seconds, as the rioters caught sight of him, the rain of missiles faltered and then stopped; the shouting quietened and silenced. In a mat­ter of moments, the Chaplain's sheer presence had quelled the violence, his appearance alone enough to drive thoughts of disobedience from the rioters' minds. Now it was replaced with fear and awe.
...
He gazed at those around him, their expressions of anger and hate now replaced by barely-contained terror. Many started crying, some fell to their knees and vomited from the shock. Others started gibbering prayers to the Emperor, bricks and clubs dropping from their grasp and clattering onto the rockcrete. Eventually silence fell, and all Boreas could hear was panicked panting and the ham­mering of hearts. None met the angered stare of the Interrogator-Chaplain as his eyes passed over the sub­dued crowd.

Boreas's own anger subsided as he looked at the peo­ple. These were not heretics to be killed; these were not malcontents intent on rebellion. They were citizens whose fear had turned to anger, who were crying out for guidance and help.

"Forgive us, my lord, forgive us!" begged one of the riot­ers, a scrawny man in the uniform of a Northport cargo loader, throwing himself at Boreas's feet. "We did not seek to incur your wrath!"

"Be at peace!" Boreas declared, looming over the hud­dle of scared people. He reached down and pulled the prostrate man to his feet. "Lay down your weapons, put aside your anger and fears. Look upon me and remember that the servants of the Emperor watch over you. Do not be afraid, for I am here as your guardian, not as your exe­cutioner."

The crowd stood silently watching the Space Marine, casting glances at each other.

"But we are afraid, my lord," the port worker told Boreas. "A time of darkness is coming, we have seen the omens, we have heard the portents."

"And I am here to protect you," Boreas assured them. "My brethren and I are here to watch over you, to guard you from danger. I stand here as a representative of the Dark Angels, a warrior of the Emperor, and I am here to remind you of the sacred oaths that bind our fate to yours. I renew that pledge here and now! I swear by the honour of my Chapter and my own life that I and my battle-brothers will lay down our lives in the defence of your world, whatever may beset us."

"What is to become of us?" someone called out, a tall woman with blood in her blonde hair and a gash down the side of her face.

"I cannot blame you for your fears," Boreas said. "But I cannot pardon your actions. You cannot rise up against the servants of the Emperor and go unpunished. I shall request that the Imperial commander be lenient, but I ask you now to give yourselves to the mercy of your ruler, and subject yourself to the judgment of her judiciary."
Of course I shoudl note that when Boreas discoveres the possible trace of a Fallen, he turns into the sort of typical "redemption seeking" dick we've known the Dark Angels to be. But still, I like him here, because he's actually acting like you think a Space Marine should be. Also his words are pretty prophetic, considering the decisions he is faced with by the end of the book in his crusade to hunt the Fallen.


Page 106
Along with the alien, the psychic mutant was the greatest threat to mankind. The Emperor had known that, he had told them of the dangers of possession and corruption. Had he not censured the Thousand Sons for their dabbling in magic? And now, ten thousand years of misrule had left the Imperium rife with witches. Entire organisations dedicated to their recruitment and train­ing. They were an affront to everything the Emperor had wanted to achieve. The Adeptus Astra Telepathica with their soul-binding ritual to leech away the Emperor's magnificence for themselves; the Scholastika Psykana for inducting psykers into the military. It pained Astelan to think of it, the sheer negligence of allowing humanity's inner enemy to thrive, to be nurtured at mankind's expense. Had they forgotten the perils, or did they choose simply to ignore them, risking the future of the Imperium and humanity as a whole?

And the pinnacle of folly, they had allowed psykers to become Space Marines! Librarians they called them, a comforting euphemism so that they did not have to think too deeply of the consequences. It was a mask, a smokescreen, so that those in power could pretend that there was purpose in allowing these abominations to exist. Astelan feared for the Imperium that had grown from the calamity of the Horus Heresy, and he feared for mankind's chances of survival in a galaxy determined to extinguish it.
Astelan contemplating psykers.


Page 109
"There were scattered copses of spindly trees and thorny bushes. Here, I discovered, if you dug deep enough you could find trickling streams passing through the rock, small pools under the surface. There were rodents, serpents and insects all feeding upon each other, and they were not difficult to catch. In this manner I sustained myself. I fear that if it had not been for this wondrous body the Emperor has given me, I would have perished. Had not my stomach, my muscles and my bones been so efficient, I would have starved or been cursed with disease from infected water. But we were created to survive, were we not? The Emperor moulded us so that we could eke life out of death and continue the fight."
Survival capabilities of the Space Marine body.



Page 110
"Like everything else on that forsaken world, humanity had chosen to live under the surface, to dig down into the rock for sanctuary," explained Astelan. "I saw armoured portals delved into the side of a great hill, atop which sat a great expanse lit with hundreds of lights to guide ships in."
Yet another world where humanity lives undeground.



Page 111-112
"I started with the obvious and explored this new place where I found myself. It was a mining colony, on a world called Scappe Delve. They had few accurate star charts, but I was able to estimate to my consternation that I was some twelve hundred light years from Caliban. Again, the isolation and fear struck me, so far from the world I had adopted as my home, but so strange had been the other revelations, it was easier to accept this horrifying fact."
Location of the mining colony.



Page 112
It was a wonder to Astelan how much the Imperium had changed since the passing of the Emperor - a man dedicated to knowledge and understanding, of overcoming the superstition and ignorance of the Age of Strife. "The Emperor embraced knowledge. It was this that allowed Him to create us, to know of the dire perils that awaited humanity and foresee the solution. You who have been born and raised in these unenlightened times, who became Space Marines and have fought wholly within the Imperium you know, cannot understand the way it looks to me. Your perspective is warped because you gaze at it from the outside. Even your histories have evolved over the millennia, reinterpreted, censored, rewritten so that they are worth little more than bedtime stories for children."
Astelan comments on the Emperor then and the views now. Again he kinda has a point.


Page 113
"Though no longer spearheaded by the Great Crusade of the Legions, mankind's expansion and reconquest had continued, and the Imperium now stretched beyond a million worlds."
- Astelan again here notes that the Imperium stretches "beyond" a million worlds. And at least he admits that conquest has continued.


Page 113
" I saw the great crumbling edifice that the Imperium had become, collapsing under its own size, lost amidst its own complexity. I saw the factions, the internecine conflicts, the ebb and flow of power from individuals to faceless, unaccountable organisations. After the passing of the Emperor, even the primarchs had failed to continue the very thing they had been originally created for. And when they died or disappeared, even less remained of that core ideal of the Emperor."
sort of true. but on the other hand it has weathered a great many catastrophes that have nearly broken it or even divided it apart, and yet it endures. It is a great, sluggish thing, but in that it is quite durable against the wounds inflicted upon it.


Page 114
"Oh, there have been a few enlightened individuals like Macharius, who have relit the torch and sought to push back the darkness, but the galaxy they lived in no longer tolerates heroes. It supports mediocrity, facelessness, suppression of man's right to endeavour to achieve glory."
Again Astelan has something of a point, but he is also biased by the age he came to being in.


Page 115
"You are right, Scappe Delve became like a prison to me, confined to a narrow world of tunnels and artificial light. But the world was on the fringes of wilderness space, completely self-sufficient with its underground fungus cultivators and water recyclers, it had little contact with the rest of the Imperium. Even the ore they mined went nowhere, and they dug more and more halls and chambers just to store it. How ridiculous is that! It was a forgotten world, too unimpor­tant, too small to warrant the attention of the wise and mighty of the Imperium."
...
"But you had seen a ship before, so you knew that even­tually another would come,"

..

"For two and a half years, no ship even visited the star system. But then a vessel came. I learned that, by chance, it was the same one that had guided me to the mine all that time ago. It was called the Saint Carthen, captained by a mer­chant named Rosan Trialartes. A rogue trader, they called him, and I asked what it meant. You can imagine how I felt when they explained."
Scappe Delve is a minor or unimportant world in the Imperium, suggesting it is not part of the "million" or more" mentioned. Also ironic that it is self sufficient despite Astelan complaining about the inter-dependency earlier.

Also, Rogue Trader.


Page 115
"You saw the rogue traders as just another indication of the decline of the Space Marines," Boreas stated flatly. "Civilian explorers given charter to trade without restric­tion, to travel beyond the known borders of the Imperium to discover new worlds. I expect it vexed you greatly to know that when once it had been the Space Marine Chapters that had forged into the darkness of space, it was now the right of merchant families and dis­possessed nobles."
Astelan's Marine-oriented bias is showing here. Rogue Traders are not a new phenomenon, and the Emperor (and Primarchs) created many of them back when. And so what if normal humans are allowed to do this? This does not mean the Astartes are prevented from doing so - the Chapters are all independent and free to act as they wish, which can include doing things Rogue Traders do. Again this is more a reflection of his hatred of what he saw the Imperium becoming and passing him by compared to what he was used to and wanted to persist - EG it being all about Marines.

Had Astelan interacted with the Black Templars or Imperial Fists, I imagine he would not be so ready to criticize.


Page 118
"Port Imperial was once an orbital dock and shipyard. The wondrous scribes of the Administratum had forgotten its existence over the centuries, after it had been abandoned after some ancient war. Once used as a staging post for Imperial fleets, it had been deserted for several centuries until the raiders moved in. On one of those ships, over one hundred years before my coming, had been Brothers Methelas and Anovel."
Void born fleet base, abandoned and recpatured.



Page 122
" The star maps of Trialartes were woefully inadequate, and with no Navigator to pilot the ship any distance through the warp, we edged our way back into more populated star systems."
...

"They fled or attacked. Some we had to destroy to protect ourselves, salvaging what we could from the wreckage. "
Travelling through the warp without navigator (short distances) and also scavenging and plundering to survive. Funny the last bit is, as the Night Lords use similar justifications to defend their actions (and Astelan even admits to stealing the crews and armaments of other ships ot out fit his own.)


Page 123
"A poor comparison, for we are supplied by ancient treaties," Boreas replied with a derisive shake of his head. "As we fulfil our duty to protect mankind, so mankind has a duty to feed and arm us. There is no threat involved, no violence."

..

"What about the threat of angering the Dark Angels? What about the fear of retribution should your suppliers break their treaties? It is only different because you claim it is justifi­able. What was I to do? My needs were no less legitimate, my goals no less worthy. But the impenetrable mass that the Imperium has become had no place for me. We did not fit into the warped scheme and so we were forced to take other measures."
Ah, tricky subject. Both kind of have a point, so its hard to say here who is the better judge.


Page 127
Before they had left he had sent a coded astropathic message to the Tower of Angels telling of the presence of the Fallen at Piscina. It would be at least a dozen days before they received the message, and the same time again for a reply to return, and he hoped to be back on Piscina IV to receive it. But rather than wait idly for instructions, Boreas had decided to set off after the Saint Carthen in case the opportunity faded and the Fallen slipped away from his grasp.
A dozen days for the astropathic message to arrive, and the Tower was 6 months away. Assuming a rather slow warp speed (200-2000c, or 2-20 Light years in 3.5 days) we could be 100-1000 LY away. Warp signal of thousands to tens of thousands of c, which is rather slow, but eh.


Page 128
"Intrasystem craft have already patrolled the designated exit passage, with no sign of the Saint Carthen, Lord Boreas," replied Commodore Kayle, head of the Piscina system defence ships. He had already pledged to assist Boreas in his pursuit of the suspicious ship, and was now directing the operation from the orbital docking station. "I have four vessels quartering the outer reaches, two more in the biosphere and another headed to the inner system."

"We shall also direct our ship to the core planets," Boreas told him. "It is possible they are aware they are being looked for. If they try to reach safe distance to jump into the warp, they know they will be detected."

..

"The inbound vessel is called the Thor Fifteen, under Captain Stehr. I shall inform him that you will be close to his position within a few days."
- the Piscinis system has at least seven system defense ships, possibly as many as fifteen or more. It will also take the Blade of Caliban a few days to reach the inner habitable systems from piscina IV (to Piscina 3) Again similar parameters from before (multiple AU vs single AU, positions of planets, and a few days, etc.)


Page 129
Like the keep on the planet below, the ship was staffed mainly with non-Space Marine serfs, mechanical servi­tors and a few tech-priests. He turned to Sen Neziel, the most senior of the ship's officers who served as captain when there were no Dark Angels aboard. He wore a sim­ple robe of deep green over a black bodysuit, his thin face crossed with childhood scars suffered during his exami­nation by the Apothecaries.

"Plot a course for the inner system, passing Piscina III inbound," he told the man. "I want the augurs to be fully manned at every minute. We must find the Saint Carthen before anyone else encounters it."

"Very well, Interrogator-Chaplain, we shall proceed at full speed to Piscina III," Neziel confirmed. "I estimate our time to orbit at three and a half solar days."
- the Space Marine Rapid Strike vessel will sometimes carry Space marines, but it does nto seem to be normally crewed by such (simply serfs.) The Captain notes it will take about 3.5 days to reach Piscina 3. This is actually quite a bit longer than I previously assumed, so we're talking hundreds fo thousands of km/s top speeds, and constant acceleration could be a single gee or even fractions of a gee to pull it off.


Page 132
He had no other choice, he resolved. It would take weeks for a message to be sent to the Tower of Angels and a reply to return, by which time whatever trail the Saint Carthen had left could have disappeared altogether.
"weeks" to get a reply from the Tower. I wonder how freaking far away the thing is??


Page 138
For the next few days, as the Blade of Caliban prowled into the inner Piscina system, the Dark Angels prepared themselves.
FEw days of hunting about. We dont know the exact duration, but the damn ship has spent a good few weeks traveling about without apparnet refeulling.


Page 138
All the while, the Blade of Caliban cut through the ether searching for the Saint Carthen. Sen Neziel was in regular contact with the Thor Fifteen, and after eight days had passed, they had proceeded beyond Piscina III and were heading further into the inner reaches of the system. There had been a few false alarms, when one or other of the ships had detected an anomalous reading. Most turned out to be system malfunctions, radioactive asteroids, and once they came across a merchant trader that had suffered damage dropping out of the warp and had drifted in system, their long range communications array out of operation. The Blade of Caliban had nearly passed them by when they encountered the distress call. Boreas had a short and explosive exchange with the trader's master, refusing to abandon his search to guide the stray vessel back to the trade routes. A message of concern from the cap­tain of the Thor Fifteen and Commander Kayle followed, but Boreas ignored them. He was focussed on the crusade, and would countenance no distraction or deviation from the goal of their search.
Boreas as we see is becoming an obsessive dick, which is affecting his relations on other people. EG he's holding up the best traditions of the Dark Angels as pompous self-absorbed assholes.


Page 140
Piscina IV was still garrisoned by fifteen thousand Impe­rial Guard and the Imperial commander's own troops; even the Fallen would not be able to face such numbers if they attacked.
Rather interesting that a Space Marine recruiting world has a Garrison from the Imperium. But not unheard of, I suppose. The Fists recruit from Necromunda, after all. 15000 troops is a rather small garrison too.. maybe 3-5 regiments?


Page 140
After nine days of searching, contact was made. The Thor Fifteen had detected a ship just outside the stellar orbit of Piscina II and was moving to investigate. Boreas ordered the Blade of Caliban to power with all speed to the area. Outwardly, there was nothing more significant about this contact than any of the others, but he felt inside that this time they were on to the foe, that the ulti­mate moment of confrontation was fast approaching. It was still two days' journey to intercept the rogue vessel...
2 days to reach the inner system.. my original assertions about speed and accel don't change a bit. Accel is tiny no matter what, and the velocities are likely low compared to many other novel examples.


PAge 142
Physically ready, and spiritually pure, the Dark Angels waited impatiently as the Blade of Caliban neared the interception point. The Thor Fifteen was approaching from the inner planets, having made the detection on a return pass. It was partway through the middle watch of the day when the attendants at the rapid strike vessel's own augurs reported an energy source close at hand.

The Thor Fifteen had encountered the Saint Carthen first and was engagedin a long range duel.

The Thor Fif­teen's captain, Jahel Stehr, was calling for aid when Boreas strode onto the bridge. He glanced at the main display screen and watched the battle for a moment. Flickering lasers rippled out from the gun decks of the renegade ship, strobing across the system ship's void shields in explosions of undulating blue waves. Missiles fired in return streaked across the starry backdrop but passed harmlessly beneath the Saint Carthen.The Pirate vessel was closing on the imperial ship, and within a few minutes would be able to pass her stern and fire into her engines.

On all fronts, the Thor Fifteen looked outclassed.

"She's heavily armed for a merchantman," Stehr's crack­ling voice reported. Boreas knew only too well what the enemy ship was capable of, having heard from Astelan how he had her fitted out as a pirate vessel that had laid waste to many convoys under his command.
Saint Carthen vs System defense ship. Missiles vs lasers.


Page 142
The Thor Fifteen was ill-prepared and poorly com­manded, Boreas assessed, and ordered maximum power from the plasma reactors in an attempt to close the dis­tance as quickly as possible. He commanded the others to stand ready in the loading bays. His plan was to crip­ple the Saint Carthen's engines and then make a small strike at her command deck. Once
-Boreas orders "maximum power" from the ship's plasma reactors, indicating that Imperium ships do not seem to always operate at full output


Page 143
Readings from the Blade of Caliban's sensor arrays, combined with a steady stream of technical reports from the Thor Fifteen indi­cated that the Saint Carthen's weapons systems were broadside only. She had yet to fire to the fore during the engagement. It was perfect for Boreas's purposes - they could attack from the front, launch an assault boat and fly in without facing a hail of fire. Of course, it was an assumption, and would be very dangerous if it proved wrong, but Boreas could see no other course of action if he wanted to take the enemy vessel without a protracted fight.
The Saint Carthen is only broadside mount weapons.


Page 143
The weapons officer reported that they were nearly within firing range.

"Sound full battle alert!" shouted Boreas and the klax­ons began to beat the crew to quarters as they prepared to open fire. The bridge buzzed into frantic activity as the orders were relayed to the stations across the ship.

"Drop to combat speed, divert power to void shields," Neziel ordered after a nod from Boreas.
"Load torpedo tubes two and four, plot firing solution to target."

"Torpedoes targeted."

"Shields at ninety per cent power."

"Engines at fifty per cent thrust, manoeuvring transferred from navigational to helm position."

"Gun batteries powered, crews mustering."

....

"Switch display to enhanced visual," Neziel concluded and the tactical display blinked out and reappeared on a sub screen, replaced by a view of the Saint Carthen. She was an elegant ship, with a raked cross-section and two clusters of plasma engines flanking her hull. Her metallic skin glinted with hundreds of yellow flashes as pulses of laser fire erupted from the cannons concealed within her belly. A flicker of blue and violet shimmered around her aft section as her shields absorbed a blast from the Thor Fifteen.
- the weapons officer indicates that the Blade of Caliban is nearly within firing range of the Saint Carthen. They slow to "attack speed" which suggests combat occurs at velocities far slower than travel speed (less than half, maybe?)

the Caliban has at least 4 torpedo tubes (about what a Cobra-class destroyer mounts.)

the Caliban enters battle with its engines at "fifty percent", with some power transferred to shields (althugh they only draw power when doing work) meaning about half the vessel's power is diverted to the weapons arguably. Although its possible the engines are simply operating at halt their maximum capacity and the shields are operating at 90%, so either interpretation works. Hell an even more interesting interpretation is that they reduced engine power, diverted enough of that to power shields (90% maybe) and 10% of that power is in weapons. Meaning weapons power is 5% of engine power.

The Carthen is also well beyond visual range, because Boreas orders "enhanced visual." If we're talking a cruiser scale vessel it must be many tens of thousands of km distant, at least, but being "nearly within firing range" should suggest hundreds of thousands of km.

The Carthen also has "hundreds" of lasers in its broadside, it would seem.


Page 144
"Lord Boreas, the Thor Fifteen is closing fast with the tar­get, it looks as if she's going to board,"
...
Boreas strode to the comms console and jabbed at the transmit rune.
"Thor Fifteen,"' he demanded. "Abort your attempt to board or I will be forced to fire upon you."

It took a few seconds for the reply to come through.

"Emperor's teeth, man!" Stehr cursed over the speakers. "We're on the same side! You can't be serious."

"Torpedo controls, retarget trajectory on vector one-five-six," Boreas called to the weapons officer.

"Confirm, new trajectory one-five-six," The officer replied after a moment at his panel.

"Launch torpedoes," Boreas ordered, glancing at Neziel.

"Are you sure, my lord?" Neziel asked, checking his own tactical display. "At that course, we would be firing on the Thor Fifteen."

"Launch torpedoes!" roared Boreas, causing Neziel and the other officers to flinch. "Question my orders again and I'll have the tech-priests render you into servitors!"

"Aye, my lord," Neziel said uncertainly. "Launch torpe­does, target vector one-five-six."

"Torpedoes away!" the weapons officer called out.

Boreas activated the comms rune once more.

"Thor Fifteen, cut speed by thirty per cent and alter course forty degrees to port," he said, darting an angry look at Neziel. "Failure to do so will result in impact with our torpedoes."
- it takes "a few seconds" for the Thor Fifteen to respond to Boreas' demand to hold off boarding (under threat of firing.) The implication may be that it takes about a second or so (maybe two) for the signal to cross that distance, implying an effective range of at least 1-2 Light seconds for torpedoes.


Page 146
With a roar and a judder, the assault boat launched explosively from the Blade of Caliban's hull. A modified drop pod, the assault boat was much like an armoured teardrop, with daw-like grappling damps at its base and a ring of melta-burners set into the hull to cut through even the thickest armour of an enemy ship. Small manoeuvring thrusters burned sporadically along its length as Hephaestus steered the craft on an intercept course with the Saint Carthen. Satisfied that their trajec­tory was correct, he unlatched his harness and stood, his magnetic boots clamping him to the hull in the zero gravity. As he thudded down the hull towards Boreas, the Chaplain signalled for the others to rise.

"Time to impact?" The Interrogator-Chaplain asked, checking the chronometer display in his auto-senses.

"Approximately twenty-seven Terran minutes, Brother Boreas," Hephaestus told him.

"Display chronometer countdown, twenty-seven minutes," Boreas told his suit, and a readout flickered into life in the lower left of his field of vision, reeling down through the minutes and seconds. Though much could happen in half an hour in a space battle, Boreas trusted to the speed and small size of the assault boat to see them through to their objective. The augurs and scanners of a large vessel were immensely powerful, built to peer into the vast depths of space.

However, an object as small as the assault boat was unlikely to reg­ister at all until within close range of the enemy's low level scanners, and even if they were picked up, they would most likely appear as an errant asteroid or piece of debris.
- it will take the drop pod launched from the Caliban approximately twenty seven minutes to reach the Saint Carthen. they are in zero-gee (no inertial damperS) so their acceleration is limited by tolerances. Also the battle appears to be going on for half an hour or more.

Assuming velocity of 20-200 kps torpedo velocities we get effective ranges between ships involved of 36,000 to 360,000 at least.


Page 147
He made a count of the equipment on his belt, though they had all done so three times already in their pre-combat checks. Along with the powerfield-enclosed crozius and his bolt pistol, Boreas had five spare magazines, each carrying fifteen rounds; four fragmentation grenades; two blind grenades; two melta-bombs; five proximity-triggered anti-personnel mines; an auspex scanning array; a monomolecular-edged combat knife; a spare power cell for his crozius, and another for his rosarius conversion field generator.
Battle-brothers Zaul and Thumiel had their standard-issue boltguns and combat knives, as well as the same quantity of grenades and mines. Damas wore a massive powerfist on his right hand to complement his bolt pistol, and a chainsword hung at his belt next to his knife. Hephaestus carried a hefty power axe and a plasma pistol, both of them crafted by his own hand. Nestor also had a bolt pistol and chainsword, and the cabin filled with the throaty whirring of the spinning blades as he tested the motor. Satisfied that the weapons check was complete, Boreas bowed his head and the others fol­lowed suit.
Loadouts of his troops. Probably reprensts a fairly standard astartes loadout. note the power cell for the crozius, and rosarius, and the mono knife. Oh yeah and lots of explosives, and 90 rounds of pistol ammo.


PAge 149
Boreas led them down the craft to stand at the exit port. Glancing at the countdown display, he saw that they were a little under ten minutes from impact.

Looking through the viewing plate, he could clearly see the Saint Carthen. The ship had haunted his nightmares for years, and now he looked upon it for real for the first dme. Barrages of high-powered laser blasts from the Blade of Caliban lanced overhead into the enemy ship. An explosion of purple and green waves of energy signalled a void shield being overloaded, and the next salvo crashed into the hull of the ship itself, spewing gouts of igniting air and tangles of wreckage.

"Lord Boreas!" suddenly the comm crackled into life with the urgent voice of Sen Neziel. "We have detected power build-ups in the lower prow of the Saint Carthen. I believe she possesses forward batteries and is about to open fire."

"Close in, brace for impact and draw her fire!" Boreas spat back. "Launch torpedoes to mask our signal!" Despite the perilous situation of the assault boat, Boreas couldn't help but admire the cunning of the Saint Carthen's captain. During the fight with the Thor Fifteen he had been presented with plenty of opportunities to conclude the fight if he had launched an attack with his prow batteries, but instead he had prolonged the duel to tempt the Blade of Caliban into a vulnerable position. His assumption might yet prove dangerous, but he was still confident that they would reach their target. The chances of a main gun being able to lock on to something as small and fast as the assault boat were slim, but there was also a chance that the Dark Angels would unintention­ally get caught in the fire from the enemy.
- the Caliban has laser cannons as well as torpedoes, and may have been firing on the Carthen for at least seventeen minutes or so and probably in excess of half an hour. (they mention this when the drop pod is ten minutes from impact). A void shield overloads from this bombardment. It probably doesn't factor in earlier fights betwene the system ship and the Saint Carthen either.

- the firing of weapons batteries is preceded by a detectable emissions signature from "power build ups" - despite this Boreas notes that a "main weapon" is unlikely to be able to hit a target as
small and fast as an assault boat.

Weapons range probably is between 10 and 100 thousand km, assuming the aforementioned 20-200 kps velocity estimate.


Page 149
"Hephaestus, get back to the piloting chair and steer us upwards, I want to get above the battery's elevation of fire,"' he ordered, staring intently through the armoured port. His augmented eyes picked out the flaring trails of a missile salvo, disappearing below the assault boat as the Techmarine clambered back to the controls and set the boosters to push the craft out of the Saint Carthen's line of fire.

It was then that the pirate vessel's anti-boarding turrets opened fire. A lattice of laser beams erupted from six point-defence emplacements scattered across her prow. Far too small to worry a starship, they were still more than powerful enough to blast the assault boat into shrapnel with a direct hit. Flickering beams of blue energy enclosed the assault boat, and Boreas's helmet automatically dropped a filter over his eye-lenses to stop him being blinded by the glare.
He checked the countdown again. Two minutes until impact.
- The SAint Carthen has six point defense laser turrets mounted forward. They are too small to harm a starship, but sufficient to pulverize the drop ship with a single hit.

- two minutes til Impact. The Carthen and Caliban have been exchanging fire for at least eight minutes more, so 25 minutes. At boarding torpeod velocities point defense lasers have a range of several thousand or several tens of thousands of km.


Page 150
The hull shook as a las-beam scored along the outside, melting partway through the armoured shielding of the assault boat. An instant later, they took another hit, which caused the lights to short out and explode.

"Terrorsight". Boreas barked to his armour and his vision instantly cleared as the sophisticated lense array created an artificial view from powerful emitted radiation waves rather than ordinary light.
- a glancing hit from a laser melts the armor on the drop pod/assault boat.

Terrorsight described.. using differnet kind of radiation than visible light (UV, IR, microwave, who knows)


Page 151
Retro-jets fired at the last moment, slowing their pace slightly.

It was still a tremendous impact when the assault boat hit home. The servos and muscle bundles in Boreas's armour whined and creaked to keep him upright as the ablative nosecone of the craft was crushed and the docking clamps lashed out, tearing into metal and pulling the assault boat tight against the enemy ship. With a white-hot flare, the melta-cutters burst into life, searing through ceramite and metal in a few seconds, before pneumatic rams punched out, hurling the severed section into the enemy vessel and leaving a serrated circular opening into the metres-thick armour plates. Boreas hit the button for the assault ramp and it swung down with a clang.
- the Carthen has "meters thick" armored plate, despite being a converted merchantman. They're targeting communications array, so its possible they're breaching at a thinner section.




Page 151
Zaul and Hephaestus flanked Boreas as he levelled his bolt pistol at the nearest target, a man with a visored hel­met who had paused to change the energy cell on his lasgun. An aiming reticule sprang up in Boreas's sight as the bolt pistol's targeter linked into his helmet. He squeezed the trigger softly as it changed to red, and a moment later a flickering trail of fire marked the bolt's passage. It tore through the man's padded vest without slowing before its mass-reactive warhead detonated, rip­ping his chest open from the inside. .
Lasguns being used onboard a ship. Boreas has a targeter on his bolt pistol which is linked to his suit, putting a targeting reticule on the intended victim.


Page 151
Las-shots also struck Boreas repeatedly, searing the paint from his left shoulder pad, scorching a mark across his left gauntlet, glancing harmlessly from the shaped armour plates protecting his thighs and groin.A ball of flickering blue plasma erupted from Hephaestus's pistol to ihs left, punching through a stanchion and incinerating the man cowering behind it, his steaming arm and head flung messily to the deck.
Lasfire does very little to marines. Plasma pistol penetrates stanchion and "incinerates" man.. leaving him steaming. ASsume several MJ for severe third or fourth degree burns.


Page 152
"We need to orientate with the bridge," said Boreas, bol­stering his pistol and passing his auspex to Hephaestus. The Techmarine activated the scanner and swung it in a slow arc to the left and right and then up and down. Swirling static on its screen coalesced into an image of their surroundings, extending out some fifty metres.
"I have numerous life-signs ahead and to the right," Hephaestus reported, holding out the auspex. "I'm detecting the power grid, there seems to be a terminal thirty metres ahead, in a chamber to the right. Detecting communications nexus as well, same position."

...

There were between thirty and forty crewman nearby, waiting around a corner ahead, and within side rooms to the left.
- the Marines use an auspex to detect life signs around them. This seems to be passive mainly, although it can provide an image of their surroundings and might have an active capability as well. (although it seems more sophisitcated/different than the "terrorsight' Boreas uses.) It could also detect power grids and terminals and distinguish communications areas.


Page 153
Bullets clattered off the bulkheads and lasfire flashed brightly down the corridor. Thumiel returned fire immediately, his bolter firing on semi-automatic, carving a path of bloody craters across the chests of the first line of attackers, hurling them from their feet into those that followed behind. By the time they had clambered over the dead, Boreas had his bolt pistol in his left hand and was firing, the bolts punching fist-sized holes into the poorly protected men. The last few realised their mistake too late and were cut down as they tried to turn and run, their lifeless bodies falling upon the heap of those already dead.
- here bolter fire punches "fist sized holes" in men and "bloody craters."


PAge 153
Boreas agreed with a nod, turning his attention back to the auspex. There were no life signs within fifty metres.
auspex range of 50 metres.


Page 153
Boreas checked his chronometer. Just short of two min­utes had passed since they had initiated the boarding action. Another fifteen seconds went by before Hephaes­tus declared that he had the information he needed.
..
"Lord Boreas," he heard Sen Neziel say. "Saint Carthen has reduced her fire considerably. I believe she is muster­ing her crew to repel boarders."
- approximately two and a half minutes have passed since the boarding occured. The Saint Carthen, as the following page indicates, is still exchanging fire with the Rapid Strike vessel. We're close to half an hour or more now, not including any time to fight with the Defense ship.




Page 155
He signalled for them to stop climbing and pulled a fragmentation grenade from his belt. With his free hand, he primed the timer for a one-second delay then flipped the firing pin and lobbed the grenade up. It arced slighdy towards the open door and exploded in mid-flight, shrapnel clattering noisily off his armour and shredding anything stood in the open portal.

...

Hauling himself up, he pulled out his crozius and looked around. Four dismembered bodies littered the hallway he found himself in.
Effect of a frag grenade.. blasting apart 4 human bodies again several times more powerful than RL grenade at least (if the grenade is scaled up to astartes size, this is easily possible.)


Page 156
They broke and fled, but couldn't outrun the Space Marines as they bounded forward with long, powered strides, hacking them down from behind, their power weapons leaving a trail of steaming blood and cau­terised flesh.
- normal humans cannot outrun armoured space marines, and power weapons cauterise flesh.



Page 157
He checked the auspex again; it still read over­whelming life signals. He thumped it with the butt of his pistol and it gave a plaintive electronic whine and the display faded.
"Brother-chaplain, I am detecting an interference signal emanating from the bridge," Hephaestus announced. "They are jamming our scanners.
Auspex is being jammed by the ship itself.


Page 157
"Augment terrorsight"' Boreas muttered and his con­structed vision faded to a wireframe schematic. He could see the wall, the banks of machinery and consoles beyond, the enemy crew standing out as red blobs amongst the overlapping lines. There were at least three dozen waiting inside, probably more, many of them clus­tered around the doorway. He saw the outline of Hephaestus moving forward as he indicated a section of the bulkhead that was thinner than the rest. "Cease aug­mentation"' Boreas told his armour and a hazy approximation of normal sight returned.
- Terrorsight is capable of seeing through the bulkhead walls of the merchantmen, and make out the crew positions. I'm not sure how "augment" is idffernet from normla terrorsight, but eh.


Page 158
The first bolt tore into the face of a man with a red bandanna, a moment before his head was vapourised.
A round from Boreas' bolt pistol. May mean vaporize (multiple MJ) or it may mean explode (several grams or more of TNT)


Page 158
Boreas launched himself across the gap, still firing, his crozius held above his head. Flares of light reflected off the gleaming surfaces of control panels and displays as his con­version field burst into life as shotgun rounds, las-bolts and bullets pelted into him. He took a heavy hit to his right knee and stumbled. A lucky shot had pierced the bendium seal between the armour plates on his leg but the pain passed in an instant as his armour stimulated his pain-suppressing glands to kick into action.
Again barring that lucky shot Boreas power armour is impervious to human small arms here, although the conversion field has much to do with that.


Page 158
With a grunt, Boreas pushed himself upright, dropping his pistol and gripping his crozius in two hands. The first swing threw a man five metres across the bridge to land heavily in a crash of splintering dials and exploding wires.
- a two-handed swing form Boreas' crozius throws a man five metres backwards across the bridge.


Page 159
The Interrogator-Chaplain let go of his crozius with his right hand and as the next attack swung in, he warded it away with his arm, his gauntleted fist closing around the blade. Exerting his strength, the blade buckled and twisted between Boreas's fingers until it snapped.
Boreas can bend a sword blade in his hand.


Page 159
Zaul fired into the chest of the first, ripping apart his spine and internal organs.
Bolter tears apart spine and internal organs of the victim.
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Part 3, and really the best part.


Page 168
"I was of the old Legion, of the Dark Angels before the coming of Lion El'Jonson. I was born on Terra, from a family whose forefathers had freed the ancient birthplace of humanity from the evil grip of the Age of Strife. Since the Emperor revealed him­self and his purpose, my people have fought alongside him. When first he began to breed a new type of super­human warrior, it was from my people that he took his first test subjects. With their aid, the Emperor recon­quered Terra and humanity was on the brink of launching into a golden age, the Age of the Imperium. So it is not strange that when he perfected his techniques for the creation of the Space Marines, many of my people were chosen to lead the Great Crusade, myself amongst them. That is why you speak in lies, because Terra was the world of my birth."
Astelan comments on TErran vs Caliban marines.

Page 171
[quiote]
"That is why the Emperor sent his best chirurgeons and apothetechs, so that those who were too old for the primarch's gene-seed might still be given many of the benefits of our altered bodies, living long past their natural deaths and capable of great feats fo arms."[/quote]

Luther was too old to be a Space Marine, was never and could never be one, according to AStelan.


Page 173 - Battle barges and strike cruisers hearken back to the Heresy era.


Page 174 - Astelan had his own Battle Barge. With thousands of chapters pre-Primarcsh that means thousands of battle barges at least (battleships) That number probably doubled if not tripled after the Primarchs were found.


Page 174
They piloted the Wrath of Terra into Caliban's atmosphere, where she burned up and exploded into fiery fragments that rained down onto the surface. Plasma reactors trailing infernos exploded in the forests leaving craters kilometres across and sending dust and rock into the sky to obscure the sun. Fragments crashed into the cities and castles, destroying them, and the largest portion of the ship plunged into the ocean, creating a tidal wave that wiped out everything within twenty kilometres of the southern coast. Not only had they marooned us on Caliban, ,they had wrought untold destruction upon the planet that had now become our prison."

...

"Caliban was then a ravaged, desolate place," Astelan continued, his voice dropping to a barely audible murmur "The forests died, the life-giving energies of the sun blotted out by the clouds of dirt and ash that hung in the air. The world was slowly destroying itself, because we had failed to protect it from our own battle-brothers.
Effects of a starship crash on Caliban.


Page 176 - AStelan notes here that the Primarchs had "thousands" of Space Marines under their command.


Page 177
"When the missiles and plasma came screaming down from orbit, it was all too plain to see the Primarch's intent," Astelan argued. "The seas boiled, the land cracked and the fortresses tumbled into ruins. I remember the ground lurching beneath my feet, and then tumbling into what seemed like a bottomless pit, before I lost consciousness."
..

"At the end, as tortured Caliban tore itself apart, your dark masters reached out to snatch you from death. As the world shattered, a great warpstorm erupted over Cal­iban and spirited you away, along with all those who had turned on the Lion. That is why you are guilty, that is why no amount of justification and argument can convince me of another intent behind your actions. The Ruinous Powers saved you and your kind, and scattered you across time and space so that we might not have our vengeance against you. Luther was as corrupt as Horus, as you all were! Admit this and repent!"
Effects of the Dark Angels bombardment on Caliban. Seas boiling implies energy output in excess of e26 joules (if seas means oceans) giving a rough idea of the bombardment magnitude, although we dont know the duration or number of ships involved (yet)


Page 179
"There is a very simple reason why Lion El'Jonson did not take part in the final battles of the Horus Heresy." Astelan let himself drop to the floor, his back against the stone table, his eyes closed. "It is beautifully simple, when you consider it. He was waiting."

"Waiting? For what?" Boreas asked quietly.

Astelan looked into Boreas's eyes, seeing the curiosity that was now there.

"He was waiting to see which side won, of course."
Astelan thinks the Lion is an ass. I'm inclined to agree.


Page 183
"Aside from the fact that nearly all of the ship's power requirements are provided for by its plasma reactor, the pattern of energy cell they brought on board is the same as that used in our own backpacks,"
All a starship's power requirements are provided by plasma reactor. This means shields, engines.. and weapons. Which is pretty much how Titans work too.


Page 185
Boreas stood on the bridge of the Blade of Caliban and watched the slowly expanding cloud of gas, plasma and debris that used to be the Saint Carthen. He felt relief as he watched the glittering mass dissipating across the backdrop of stars. The feeling went deeper than the elim­ination of a possible threat did, right to the core of his soul.
- a full spread of torpedoes reducees the Saint Carthen to an expanding cloud of "gas, plasma and debris."


Page 186
"Your threats mean nothing to me, Captain Stehr,' Boreas replied. 'We are not of the Imperial Navy, neither Commodore Kayle, nor your admirals or even the Lord Admiral of the segmentum has any authority over us. Even Imperial Commander Sousan does not have authority over us, we answer only to the Supreme Grand Master of the Dark Angels and the Emperor himself. We fight alongside you because we share a common foe, but it is wholly at our discretion how we choose to fight the enemies of the Emperor. And now you are here only at my sufferance, and your continuing prattling threats begin to wear my patience. Your presence here also pre­sents a threat to the security of my vessel and my battle-brothers, and if I do not see you leaving within the next fifteen minutes I shall take action myself."
Boreas asserts Astartes independence, and pisses off yet antoher local.


Page 187
It would take the Blade of Caliban six days to achieve orbit over Piscina II.
I give up. This is almost certainly "hundreds of km/s" velocity tops. And possibly even less than that.

The display screen of the briefing room flickered and shimmered with an image of the moon's surface. At the centre of a superimposed white grid sprawled the Fallen's base of operations in grainy red monochrome. Unsure what defences protected the renegades' station, Boreas had ordered the Blade of Caliban to approach cautiously, edging into orbit a few kilometres at a time, ready to pull back from any fire from the surface. No strike came, and now the rapid strike vessel hung just two kilometres above the moon's thin atmosphere, its augurs and sur­veyors directed towards the cratered surface.
Self explanatory.


Page 189
At the heart of the base, Boreas could make out the blocky, square-nosed shape of a landing craft, some three hundred metres in length and fifty metres wide. The rest of the buildings expanded outwards from the landing craft like a ferrocrete spider web of enclosed walkways and bunkers half buried in flows of dust and grit. Thin shafts of light spilled from windows and ports.

- a "blocky" landing craft 300 meters long and 50 wide. Yet another landing craft/ship that is almost a small starship/warship in its own right.


Page 189
"They have no weaponry capable of orbital attack"
Meaning something as big as a defence laser. They do have some turrets though.


Page 190
"These look like weapons turrets," Damas said, pointing at three separate emplacements, one on the ship itself and two others in towers a few hundred metres away to form a triangular defence. He traced his finger across the large screen to indicate their converging fields of fire. "They're positioned well, no easy attack route. Wherever we strike from, they will have us targeted by at least two turrets."

"They look like energy weapons, am I right?" said Boreas, glancing at Hephaestus. The Techmarine nodded.

"Yes, you can see the armoured power conduits running from relays built into the lander's central engines," he said. "Lascannons, I would say, by their appearance. Given their elevation and the low defraction of the atmosphere they would have an effective range of four or five kilometres, able to hit us as soon as we enter the upper atmosphere."
Range of lascannons 4-5 km, at least in this low atmosphere and elevation (Height) Earlier they say they don't have any orbital weaponry, which is pretty extensive since ship "orbits" can be a few km above planet. Given the concern they have about being targeted by the lasers, they're probably ground warfare lascannon rather than anti-starship/starfighter weapons.

The atmosphere si "barely breathable" by humans, so the lascannon should be applicable in an earthlike atmosphere too.

I should note that in discussing tactics they first suggest orbital bombardment, and then blasting the base to let the hostile enviroment kill the enemies. Lets not say they don't think efficiently.


Page 191
"If only this ship were equipped with drop pod bays, we might have been able to launch a shock assault, drop­ping empty pods as decoys for the turrets. As it is, we will have to go in with a Thunderhawk assault, and we can­not even risk orbital fire support to cover our approach."
They worry about being targeted by the lasers in drop pods, but Thunderhawks seem okay as mentioned below.


Page 191
"The enviromental reports indicated about two-thirds Terran gravity. We could cover five kilometres in under ten minutes."
2/3 terran gravity.. they move at 30 kph.


Page 191
"It will take several hits to disable a Thunderhawk, giving us some measure of additional protection against those batteries. If we had known we were going to be involved in more than a boarding action, we could have brought a Rhino with us. An armoured assault would have allowed us access to the base in relative safety."
- it would take the lascannons "several hits" to disable a Thunderhawk.


Page 194
Lost in his musings, the time passed quickly and it was a slight surprise when Boreas heard Damas declare they were only a minute from firing range.

"We are detecting some form of scanning field," Hep­haestus announced as the Thunderhawk's instruments scrolled data across half a dozen different screens.

A few seconds passed and then three blinding flashes of white shot out of the darkness ahead, passing below the gunship. Another volley of high-energy lasfire zipped past from a slightly different angle, crossing the path of the Thunderhawk over a hundred metres ahead.

"Let us hope their aim does not improve dramatically," laughed Damas as he took up the weapons controls. "Our missiles" machine spirits are becoming aware of the tar­gets,' he added, his voice solemn again.

Another salvo of fire flashed towards them, only a little closer than the first shots had been. Hephaestus steered the gunship even lower until it was barely thirty metres above ground level. The approach was fairly smooth, a slight incline up towards the wide brow of the hill on which the base was built

"Firing missiles," Damas announced as he pressed the launch stud. Twin streaks of fire soared away either side of the Thunderhawk, splitting apart as the tiny metriculator in each warhead guided itself to the designated target. A few seconds later, explosions blossomed to the left and right.
- two missiles streak away from the thunderhawk and take "A few seconds" to hit. Pity we dont know the ranges involved.


Page 195
The aft of the Thunderhawk was several metres above the ground, and Boreas had to jump down, his boots throwing up plumes of dust as he landed. He reckoned that they had crashed about a kilometre short of the base's outskirts, but pulled his bolt pistol free all the same and conducted a sweep of the crater's perimeter while the others clambered free of the wreckage. They took up defensive positions around the shattered gun­ship as Boreas considered what to do next.
"Can you confirm our position?" he asked, looking back at Hephaestus.
"Just under a kilometre in that direction," the Techma­rine answered, pointing towards a part of the crater's rim that was shallower than the rest. "I have notified the Blade of Caliban of the situation and they stand ready for your orders, Brother-Chaplain."
- by several mentions, the Space Marines and the thunderhawk crash about a "kilometre" away from the base. That may imply a range ofr the bolter, but its not definite.


Page 196
Muzzle flashes sparkled in the darkness as the traitors opened fire, but half a kilometre away their opening shots went wide of the mark. Boreas threw himself forward, covering the ground in five metre strides, preferring to close the range rather than fire. To his left, Thumiel paused and fired several rounds from his bolter, and Damas added his covering fire as well. Fifty metres on, Boreas skidded to a halt and leveled his bolt pistol as Zaul and Nestor advanced to his right. Thumbing the fire selector to semi-automatic, he [Boreas] emptied the magazine in five short bursts, the explosive bolts tearing through a knot of enemy three hundred meters in front of him.
Autogun rounds not very accurate against Astartes half a km away. Implied that bolt pistol and boltgun could have targeted at that range as well - its acutally implied the other marines did fire on them from roughly that distance. Boreas waits to 300 metres then fires, making accurate shots. 3 round burst capacity (5 shots empties the round).

Boreas also makes 5 metre strides.



Page 196
The Interrogator-Chaplain could see the foe much more clearly now. They wore an assortment of heavy enclosing suits, visors and breather masks, their bulky protective clothing slowing their movements, making them clumsy. They carried a mix of autoguns and light machine guns, spewing tracer bullets out of the night. Having reached their next position to Boreas's right, Zaul and Nestor halted and opened fire, the flickering trails of their rocket-propelled bolts bright in the darkness. Boreas pulled the empty clip from his bolt pistol and tossed it aside, grabbing another from his belt and slam­ming it home. Glancing to his left he saw Hephaestus on one knee taking aim with his plasma pistol. A searing ball of blue energy erupted from the muzzle, casting flickering shadows as it sped into the chest of a traitor, ripping through his suit and punching out of his back before its energy dissipated.
Renegades using autogun sand LMGs.


PAge 197
The display imposed over his vision swam with targets, some of them running in his direction, others hunkering down behind boulders and in shallow hollows. Every time the crosshairs glowed red, Boreas squeezed the trigger and another enemy was toppled to the ground a second or two later.

For six hundred metres they advanced in formation, four providing covering fire as the other pair ran forward. Slowly the traitors were driven back before their relent­less onslaught. Boreas's audio sensors relayed the crackle of enemy gunfire, and as the range closed, the shots began to strike home, chipping off slivers of ablative ceramite, burying into the plasteel shell beneath. Dis­carding his fourth empty magazine, Boreas spared himself a second to assess the battle
Implies Boreas was targeting from over 600 metrs from target with his pistol (and other troops weapons were engaging at similar ranges), that the bolts took 1-2 seconds to hit target (300-600 m/s) Autoguns were again not very accurate out to that range, nor were the LMGs it eems, but ast hey go tlcoser it did.


Page 197
"Press on to the buildings," Boreas ordered, setting off once more, his targeter tracking a traitor as he ran awk­wardly around a corner. He snapped off a shot that shattered the man's thigh and spun him to the ground, his gun spilling slowly from his grasp.
Targeter again.. bolt shatters thigh.


Page 197
Damas headed forward, and the enemy concentrated their fire on him, bullets screaming past the sergeant and ricocheting off his armour
LMg/autogun bullets immune to armor.


Page 198
A bullet struck his helmet, crack­ing through the lens of his helmet's right eye and driving into the bionics behind. A sudden surge of pain flooded Boreas's face and he stumbled backwards and lost his footing.
Bullet penetrates eyepiece, but does not have enough velocity to do serious harm.


Page 199
Pulling the auspex from his belt, he set the scan to maximum range. At full power, it would not provide detailed information but it would confirm or deny his growing suspicions. It took several seconds for the power pack to warm up, and the screen hazed into life. There were a few vague patches of brightness to indicate life forms, but it was a very low signal. The silence from outside attracted his attention and he looked back through the door. Looking left and right, he could see nothing except rapidly cooling bodies. The twenty or so rebels who they had pushed through were nowhere to be seen.
Full power auspex.


Page 200
Sporadic bolter fire from ahead occasionally broke the quiet, and as he continued, Boreas passed the odd vac­uum-suited body missing a limb, head or chest.
- Bolts from their bolters removed limbs, heads, ,or chests.


Page 201
Damas's bolt pistol roared once and the flaming man's head exploded, hurling his carcass back into the room.
- bolt pistol round explodes a man's head.


PAge 202
A few had survived and opened fire, shotgun shells and bullets smashing into Thumiel, the first who had entered.
Small arms still useless.


Page 204
"We followed Lord Cypher, but we met others who came with the Saint Carthen. Sometimes they argued with each other, I think they had different plans. We didn't see them very often, they never spoke much when we were around. I don't think Lord Cypher knows about the failsafe plan, I think he is after something else in your keep. That's all I know, that's everything!"
I should note Boreas, in his dickishness, had promised a quick death to the prisoner and broke his vow, on the basis "promises with traitors held no merit" or something to that effect. Coupled with his general behaviour up to this point, he's in full on Dakr Angel mode now.


PAge 205
"It's called the annihilus. After the fighting over the basilica with the orks, it was decided when the new keep was constructed that it should never be allowed to fall into enemy hands. Since the only way the keep would fall were if the rest of the Piscina IV was also subjugated, it was also intended to deny the planet to any invader."

"What do you mean?" Boreas asked, full of foreboding. "How does this failsafe device deny a whole planet to the enemy?"

"It's a virus weapon," Hephaestus answered flatly, star­ing directly at Boreas. His expressionless helmet told Boreas nothing, but the tone of the Techmarine's voice spoke volumes of the fear he was feeling now.

Boreas was stunned. He was about to say something and then stopped, the words meaningless. He tried to encapsulate his feelings, communicate the dread and the anger that was welling up inside him, but there was no way to express them.

"The keep under my command, our outpost on that world, contains a device designed to wipe out every liv­ing thing on the planet," Boreas said flatly. He felt fatigued and numb. "And I was not told of this?"
Boreas wasn't told because the higher echelons of the Dakr Angels love their secrets and only let infomration be known if it is absolutely necssary. Typical for them to decide to rig a doomsday weapon into a planet and not tell anyone. Given how poorly the High Lords and Inquisition react to rampant use of Exterminatus (CG Kryptmann) I can't see them condoning this sort of action as a rule. And I can't blame Boreas being shocked or offended. Despite his zealous dickery, he is still an essentially good person and he couldn't condone this stupid shit. Nor do his squade mates aside from Nestor.


Page 208
For ten thousand years, the Dark Angels have sought to atone for what happened on Caliban. This I learned from Methelas and Anovel, and you have confirmed it through your own actions and words. You have shrouded yourselves in secrecy, suppressed all knowledge of those events, and eliminated all evidence that the Fallen exist. Even within your own ranks, you have created tiers of secrecy so that even the battle-brothers of the Chapter are unaware of their true origins. Like a coven of malcon­tents, you whisper to each other in the shadows. You conspire to carry out your quest away from the eyes of others. A veil of shadow covers everything you do. It is not because of the Horus Heresy, it is not because Luther and I, and others like us, fought with our own brethren. It is not because the shame of our sins must never been known to others. All of these are excuses, fab­rications, justifications to hide the truth. And the truth is so simple, it is shocking. There was a darkness within Lion El'Jonson. A darkness you all carry within you. It surrounds you, yet you are blind to its presence. Intrigue, secrets, lies and mystery: this is the legacy of your pri­march."
All pretty much true, at least as far as I see it.


Page 208
"A visionary sees the way to lead humanity out of the darkness, devises a way to guide man back to the stars. We know him only as the Emperor, and He is far from an ordinary man. Cre­ating an army of superior warriors He subjugates the barbarian tribes that dominate Ancient Earth and creates a new society, that of Terra, the foundation of the Imperium He plans to build. Though His warriors are strong, fast, intelligent and loyal, He strives even further to perfect His vision, and creates the beings known as the primarchs. This I learned as a Chapter commander of the Dark Angels."
- prior to creating the Primarchs and Space Marines, the GEoM had created an "army of Superior warriors" to subjugate everyone on Earth. His warriors are "strong, ,fast intelligent and loyal", but not up to the level of Space Marines. Also known as the thunder warriors, of course. :)


Page 209
The primarchs could not be recreated, or the Emperor was unwilling to try, and He founded the Space Marine Legions instead. Using what gene-seed He had remaining of the primarchs, He created us, the Dark Angels, and the other Legions, and so the First Founding was complete.
- the Gene seed of the Primarchs was used to raise "new Chapters."


Page 209-210
"Much of this is known to you, I am sure. However, there amongst the legends, you can still see the evidence of what I am about to tell you. Some of the primarchs were flawed. It might have been that their gene-seed was not as perfect as the Emperor thought, or perhaps the dark powers had gained influence over them while they were separated from the Emperor. But there is another, much simpler explanation.

The primarchs and their Legions became as one. Their gene-seed was used directly to raise new Chapters for the Legions, and they became the commanders. Their per­sonality and that of their homeworld was indelibly etched on to the Legions, so that their battle-brothers became but lesser reflections of their primarchs. They, of course, shared a common homeworld, their people had raised the primarchs as their own. Still, this does not explain fully the effect the primarchs would have on the Legions they commanded.

The reason, I believe, that the primarchs and their Legions became as one with each other is because the pri­marchs learned how to be human from their homeworlds. When Leman Russ awoke on Fenris, he found himself on a savage ice world ruled by barbarian warriors. He grew up to be fiercely loyal, impetuous and unorthodox, just like those who had raised him. When Roboute Guilliman became an adult on Macragge, he had been tutored in life by statesmen, strategists and leaders of society, and was famed for his organization, from the greatest sweeping plan to the smallest detail. Think about it. The primarchs had to learn how to be human."

"Perhaps it was unavoidable, or perhaps it had always been the Emperor's intent to raise and educate them as his own sons. Whatever the cause, the primarchs, for all their skill, strength, speed and intelligence, were a blank slate. They learned well and they learned quickly, but at the heart of the matter is the fact that they had to learn how to be humans."

"You and I are Space Marines, and we are something far above and beyond a normal human. Our bodies bear only a physical resemblance to those of normal humans, for inside us the gene-seed and implanted organs have turned us into something far from normal men. We were not chosen on our physical suitability alone. We, like the primarchs, are intelligent, dextrous and quick of mind, and a decade of training and a lifetime of battle have honed those skills. It is said that we know no fear, and it is true, for the kind of fear a man suffers from is alien to us. We are incapable of the passion that humans speak so highly of in poems and sagas. We are no longer humans, the way we are created ensures that. It is a sacrifice, for mankind's own humanity makes it vulnerable, makes it susceptible to betrayal, to doubt, to despair and destruc­tive ambition. We are beyond such weaknesses, and yet we will never again truly be part of humanity, we will never again be one of the creatures we have been created to protect."

"But even with that great catalogue of changes that marks us as far superior, and sometimes far weaker, than normal humans, we are still closer to mankind than the primarchs ever were. They were wholly artificial, never having had a true mother and father. We Space Marines, you and I, were once human. No matter what the train­ing, no matter what they do to our bodies, no matter how much a lifetime of battle hardens us to it, at the core of us lies that humanity. It will never surface wholly - it is suppressed, buried far beneath our conscious recogni­tion of it - but in our hearts and in our souls we were once and still are human, something the primarchs never had."
Astelan offers some interesting theories into the primarchs and why they differ from Astartes. Considering this again is one of the underlying themes of the Horus Heresy (consider the various primarchs struggling with varous aspects - Horus being abandoned by the Emperor, as well as coming to terms with Chaos.. Fulgrim and his pursuit for perfection, Lorgar and his struggle with religion, etc.)


Page 211-212
"The very aptitude the primarchs had for learning, for adapting to those around them and their environment was their downfall. Lacking basic, unalterable humanity, they were just replicas. Physically perfect, intellectually without peer, but spiritually vacant. From the moment they awoke, they started learning, started shaping them­selves into what they would become. Those around them helped this process, taught them the values they would hold dear to them for their rest of their lives. The pri­marchs learned their moral values from the cultures they were raised in; they learnt how to fight, how to lead and how to feel from others."

..

"In some, that learning was perhaps a semblance of what the Emperor intended. Roboute Guilliman was the greatest of the primarchs, and never once wavered in his dedication and service. But he was inferior to Horus in every way. He was not as able-minded, nor as charis­matic, and not as physically adept. Why was it that Horus turned to the powers of Chaos, perfect as he supposedly was, when Guilliman, his inferior, is still renowned ten thousand years later as the shining example of a pri­march?

It is because Guilliman had learned incorruptibility. For whatever reason, from whatever source, Guilliman had shaped his mind to make it impregnable to the lure of power and personal ambition. He said Space Marines were unsullied by self-aggrandisement, and he spoke truly for he took all Space Marines to be as worthy as himself. Horus, somewhere in his upbringing, had learned a fatal weakness, a chink in the armour of his soul that allowed him to consider himself greater than the Emperor. He turned against his master, as did those who also had such flaws, and eventually Horus was killed and the others driven into the Eye of Terror where they stay to this day, nursing their flaws, reinforcing their prej­udices."

..

"Our primarch, the great Lion, commander of the Dark Angels, was imperfect when Luther saved him from the guns of the Caliban hunting party. He had awoken in the deeps of the Caliban forests. They were wild, danger­ous places, swathed in near-darkness, where the sun penetrated the canopy only rarely. In the shadows lurked terrifying, mutated creatures that could kill a man with a single bite of their monstrous jaws or a swipe of their lethal claws. There they stalked and hunted each other, a vicious play of predator and prey."

"This is the world that Lion El'Jonson grew up in and learned from. He learned that the dark shadows could hold hidden dangers, but also that they gave sanctuary. He became a creature of darkness, a thing that avoided the light, for it made him vulnerable and exposed him to danger. When Luther found him, El'Jonson was com­pletely feral, incapable of speech, little more than an animal. He found a hunter, and also the hunted.

It mattered not what Luther taught him, how well he raised him, what values he passed on to his adopted son. Although on the outside the Lion became a cultured, elo­quent, intellectual man, on the inside he was still that hunted, fearful creature. The flaw was already there, it simply became covered with layers of civilization and learning."

"And so there was conflict in the heart of the great pri­march. Though I once cursed his name and wished him dead, I have grown beyond such feelings now. One can­not hate the primarchs for what they are, any more than one can truly hate the orks for being alien warmongers, or a gun for shooting you. They are simply what they have been created to be. We come to loathe their actions, to abhor what they represent, as I have come to loathe and abhor the primarchs for what they became and what they did. But it is the symptom we hate, not the disease; it is the effect we despise, not the cause."
More on Astelans lil theory.


PAge 215
"Where once the Emperor had sent us forth in the knowledge that his will was our will, now our primarch introduced greater controls. At first it seemed eminently appropriate, after all he was indeed a strategic genius and with him to co-ordinate our efforts surely there was nothing that could stop us. But slowly, year after year, more power was taken from the Chapter commanders to act independently, to devise their own course of action. More and more, the Lion held the reins of the Legion tight.

It was then that an incident occurred which began to sdr my suspicions. It was nothing much, on the face of it. My Chapter had dropped from the warp into a particular star system and we were making our way towards its core to see if there were any inhabitable worlds. As we approached the inner planets our scouts sent back word of another fleet on a closing course. We moved to battle stations to prepare for immediate attack, and we began to manoeuvre to gain the best advantage. When I was happy that our fleet held the upper hand, I gave the order to attack. Very dearly that order could have cost us, if it had not been for the alertness of the captain of one of our ships in the vanguard. He refused the order to open fire and urgently reported back. The enemy fleet was no enemy at all! We were about to engage the ships of the Twenty-third Chapter, under Commander Mentheus"
- at least twenty three Chapters of Dark Angels pre-Heresy, Probably more. Also commentary on the Lion's descent into paranoid madness.. possibly.


Page 216
"The near-catastrophic attack was aborted, and no more was said about it, but I began to think. Why had Mentheus been there? Why would El'Jonson have sent two fleets to the same system? I thought perhaps that at first our primarch had made a mistake. But that was impossible, the exactitude of his planning and co­ordination was one of the Lion's greatest strengths. He never made mistakes of that nature. That left the possibility that Mentheus or myself were in error, but after conferring with each other, we were both in agreement that we were following our specific orders."

"That left only the possibility that Lion El'Jonson had intended for us both to be there. I could think of no rea­son why two Chapters had been required, the system was uninhabitable. There had been nothing to indicate a threat worthy of two Chapters, both recently refreshed and at full strength."
"There was no reason I could think of, and for a while I ignored the thoughts that had begun to nag at my subcon­scious, undl they took me onto a new track. The fact that we were both heading to the same system had not been com­municated to me. What was more worrying, perhaps, was that our primarch had not seen fit to even tell me that we were fighting in the same sector, though Mentheus had been well-informed. This made me realise that, with the pri­march's greater control over every Chapter, the communication between Chapter commanders was virtu­ally non-existent. At the dawn of the crusade, we would regularly confer to devise strategy, to co-ordinate our efforts for the maximum chance of victory and success. Now, we received our orders and simply followed them."

"It was as if El'Jonson was attempting to isolate us. The fear and distrust that had been ingrained into his soul during his infancy was turning to paranoia, perhaps. The instinct for survival on the most basic level was now twisted with the teachings of Luther and the upbringing Lion El'Jonson had received. Where once he saw enemies and prey in the shadows, now he saw them again but in the galaxy around him. I think that our primarch began to fear us, and that through no fault of his own he began to see everything around him as a threat."

"I resolved to counter some of this growing isolation and made more vigorous inquiries. My suspicions were still not aroused at this point, I merely saw a problem developing and sought to avoid it. As I gathered more information, the picture became more clear. Each of the old Chapters, those founded before the rediscovery of Caliban, had a shadow, a new Chapter, founded on Cal­iban with Lion El'Jonson's own gene-seed, within five sectors or less of it. You could argue that this was coinci­dence, or more likely for mutual support, and I would agree were it not for the fact that many of the new Chap­ter commanders seemed to be aware of the presence of the old Legion, but the commanders who had served alongside me throughout the Great Crusade rarely knew of the proximity of their companions. We were being watched."

- Astelan notes here that Lion El'jonson deployed a full Chapter of Caliban-raised Space Marines (using his own gene-seed) to watch over those Dark Angels Chapters raised prior to the discovery of Caliban. This means that the Dark Angels chapter at least doubled in number post Caliban. Astelan offers his own commentary on the Lion's nature and reasons - given what we learn from Descent of Angels and Fallen angels both, this has a great deal of merit.


Page 217
"Rather than an understand­able, though still worrying, favouritism for the Chapters who shared the world of his birth, the Lion actually spent more time leading the old Legion Chapters. Though two-thirds of the Dark Angels were now from Caliban, our primarch accompanied those Chapters less than a quar­ter of the time."
- Here Astelan notes that post Caliban 2/3 of the Dark Angels in the Legion were from Caliban, leaving 1/3 being the "Pre-Caliban" Chapters. That would suggest the "Legions" sizes tripled after the Primarchs entered the scene (at least 6000?)


Page 217-218
"We were the Dark Angels! We were the first, the best of the Emperor's Legions! The Emperor himself oversaw our founding, our training and our wars. We were the finest war­riors in the Imperium, none had conquered more, and none had showed more zeal in battle and more dedication to their dudes. And now our primarch did not trust us!"
More Astelan ranting.


Page 219
"'The faint signals and their origin proved to be true. There were indeed humans living in Altyes. They had retained much of their civilisation, and would be a great addition to the growing Imperium but for one obstacle. Altyes was over­run with orks. The greenskins had come a century earlier, and overwhelmed the Altyans and now the whole planet was enslaved. The human population had been put to work in great factories to build ships and weapons for the orks, who covered the world in a teeming mass."
Orks enslaving humans for industrial puproses.


Page 220
"How often have the Dark Angels gone to war as a whole Chapter in your lifetime, Chaplain Boreas?"

"Never in my memory, the largest engagement I have been involved in had five companies involved."
Scope of engagements.


Page 220
"It is a truly inspiring sight, a whole Chapter at war! Over one thousand Space Marines embodying the Emperor's wrath. The skies fill with the shrieking of jets and blacken with drop pods and gunships. The ground itself explodes with laser blasts, missiles and plasma, tearing at the heart of the enemy, ripping their will to fight from their chests with a single stroke. Even then, with a whole Chapter to command, a thousand Space Marines is few warriors to subjugate a world, but they are enough to destroy any enemy.

With decisive strikes, we destroyed and captured the largest factories and laid waste to them. Using speed and precision, we struck at the roads and bridges, the fortifi­cations and landing pads. In orbit, our fleet engaged the ork ships and drove them into the atmosphere or reduced them to blazing hulks. Within two days we had forged ourselves a foothold on Altyes.
From that breaching point we expanded outwards, driving the orks back, catching them in ambushes, pushing them into ravines and to the coasts. Slowly, surely, their resistance wavered, and we continued to push them hard. We had them surrounded though they outnumbered us by hundreds-to-one, through mobility and co-ordination we divided them and sub­divided them and continued to break them up and exterminate them one part at a time."
- The largest battle Boreas has been involved in involved 5 Dark Angels companiess, but never (in his memory) the full Chapter


Page 222
"The plan had so far been a complete success, but to my eyes the sacrifice of Keltis was unnecessary. Now that the orks were on the plains, we could attack in force before they even reached the city. I requested that the Second and Fourth Companies be moved to block the ork advance."

"Our primarch refused. He told me to allow the orks to sack Keltis and we would then converge on them in force and destroy them utterly. He was worried that if we attacked on the plains the enemy would have a chance to scatter or even retreat, costing us many more months of fighting, as well as many more Space Marine lives. I asked him how he could justify half a million deaths to save us a few battles and he said that these half a million deaths would save the lives of a hundred Space Marines."

"I was shocked. It is not for us to reckon our worth against the lives of those we protect. Our duty was to defend mankind from aliens, not use them to save ourselves. While death in the populace of a contested world is undesirable, it is often unavoidable. Keltis however, could easily be saved, and thus I argued with El'Jonson, but he would listen to no counsel of mine. So it was with a heavy heart that I ordered the Second and Fourth Companies to intercept the orks and make a stand before they reached Keltis."
Lion has been taking lessons from the Ben Counter "Howling Griffons" school of military tactics. I'm tempted to make Guilliman jokes about this, but I'm going to refrain.


Page 226
"Luther, Luther is here?" Astelan said, his thoughts whirling. "How? Why? Did he not die at the hands of the Lion on Caliban?"

"He did not," Sapphon told him. "He is ours, held in the deepest cell of this rock. As his cries for forgiveness echo in your ears, you will learn to beg for mercy as well."
- Luther is still alive. Amazing they would admit to that.


Page 227
With the Blade of Caliban's reactor at dangerously high levels, it was still a twelve-day journey back to Piscina IV. As soon as the Space Marines were back on board, the ship got under way. Boreas headed directly for the chapel and sealed the door behind him. For ten days he remained there.
- with its reactors runningat "dangerously high levels" it takes twelve days for the Caliban to return to Piscina IV from Piscina 2. Maybe they're running low on fuel, or something, but even if the ditance was a good 5-6 AU we're talking no more than 500-1000 km/s velocity, if that.


Page 229
On the tenth day, half-delirious, derided by daemons of his own creation, Boreas drew his pistol and held the muzzle against the weaker joint of his neck armour. The bolt would tear into his throat and blow out his spine, ending the pain forever
Boreas contemplates suicide. Rather an interesting moment considering him being a space marine and all. Of course it also shows a weak point in the armor as well as the effect of the bolt pistol round on him.



Page 234
The Thunderhawk descended on pillars of blue fire. The crowds tried to scatter, but the press of bodies meant that many were caught in the downwash of the jets, reduced to ashes instantly. The gunship settled heavily into the soft earth, crushing the charred corpses of those caught below.
landing thrusters of the thunderhawk cremate large groups of people,a nd probably badly burn othres.. we're probably talking eaisly double digit GJs. We're probably talking about hyper-velocity thrust streams (tens or hundreds of km/s) but it gives a good indicator of the power generation lvels of a thunderhawk.


PAge 234
A woman with a tangled mass of hair, her red woollen dress stained with soot, sprinted up the ramp, a carving knife in her hands. She threw herself at Boreas, the blade buckling on the armour of his breastplate.
Carving knife does fuck all to power armor.


Page 236
He fired ahead as he advanced, shooting low, the bolts fracturing thighbones, ripping through hips and shatter­ing kneecaps, until a corridor had opened up in front of him leading towards Brade.
Remember when I said bolt rounds dont always seem to be explosive? This is one of those cases I meant.


Page 238
"He wore long robes like a coat over his armour, and carried two bolt pistols in low slung holsters."
"A sword in a scabbard. Did he carry a long sword in an ornate scabbard?" demanded Boreas, feeling an unfamil­iar chill of foreboding.
Yes, that's Cypher. also knonw as the Voice of the Emperor. The interesting thing in this book is is that Thorpe portrays Cypher as being a rather nice guy, sympathatic character and gneerally not a Chaos bastard.


Page 241
"The gene-seed, they have taken the sacred gene-seed," Nestor replied, his voice a hoarse whisper.
"Gene-seed?" Boreas was confused. Then the realisation struck him and his anger welled up. "More secrets! More lies and half-truths!"
"It was for the security of the Chapter, Boreas," Nestor said, hanging his head. "It would be folly for all of our gene-seed to be carried in the Tower of Angels. What if the unthinkable happened? What if the Rock were lost? Destroyed in the warp, perhaps? After we survived the loss of Caliban the Lion wanted to ensure the Chapter would always endure. It was decided that some of the gene-seed would be sent to distant outposts, hidden away, its location known to only a select few."
I have to say, the Imperium and the Astartes do a really shitty job of guarding the gene-seed. first Hydra cordatus and now this. And of course the Marines Errant losing theirs to Huron... Although this is entirely a Dark Angels fuckup, due to their obsession with information control and secrecy. You can't guard what you don't fucking know about.

And Boreas learns a lesson about secrecy lies and fanatacism.


PAge 241
"I am six hundred and seventeen years old, did you really think that after all this time I would not be a member of the Inner Circle? That's why a veteran like myself is here, on this forsaken outpost. To protect the future, to guard the gene-seed."
- Nestor is 617 years old.


Page 243
"What type of virus is it?"

"Omniphagic," replied Hephaestus heavily. "It will devour all living matter. It can be airborne or waterborne, and will pass by contact. Kadillus Harbour will be infected within two hours of release, the island within half a day. After that it depends on wind strength and the currents, but the virus will wipe out every living creature, destrroy every organic cell on the planet, within five days. As it spreads it grows more virulent, in the cyclical effect that will strip the planet bare Even bones will be destroyed. Were it not for our armour and helemts, we would already be dead."
Omniphagic virus weapon. Not quite full life eater, since it seems to lack the firestorms. Also it takes longer than life eater: Days rather than hours, and power armor provides some protection.


PAge 244-245
"The first aim of the virus is to cleanse the keep of intruders, correct?" Boreas continued his chain of thought.

"Yes, the virus is released internally first, before spread­ing to the rest of the city," Hephaestus confirmed.
"And how does it spread?" Boreas asked.
"Simple, if the keep has been breached or has been taken, there will be any number of ways for it to pass into the..." Hephaestus's voice trailed off as he followed Boreas's gaze towards the armoured entry portal. "There has been no attack, no breach..."
"The tower is completely sealed," Boreas said, looking at each of the others. "As protection from gas or viral attack from outside, the keep is airtight. Until we break that seal, the virus is confined to the interior."
Self explanatory, as well as ominous.


PAge 245
"Although the circumstances of its activation may have been unortho­dox, the virus bomb's purpose remains the same. Kadillus is in the grip of revolt, and the orks are attacking in overwhelming numbers. The planet is already lost. We shall simply be hastening its demise. The virus will cleanse the world as it was supposed to, denying it to the enemies of the Emperor."
- the Virus bomb will deny the planet to the enemies of the Imperium. Yes, the Inner Circle are aoll collosal dicks, and Boreas realises it.


Page 246
Boreas pulled the trigger and a ball of superheated plasma smashed into the Apothecary, exploding on impact. His headless torso, the stump of his neck cauterised and smoking, pitched forward and slumped against the gate.
Boreas using a plasma pistol against Nestor.. blowing apart or burning up the head. This scene is basically Boreas preventing Nestor from opening up the citadel and releasing the virus, destroying the populace. Nestor wants to pursue the fallen and retrieve the Geneseed, because he views the Dark Angels legacy and honour as mattering more than the lives of those they are sworn to protect. Once agian the Dark angel obsession with secrets and controlling information has lead to a tragedy - this shit wouldn't have happened had Boreas and the others known about the geneseed (or the virus bomb.) But that's not the Dark Angel way and you can't trust people with information... that sort of paranoia is destructive to camaraderie and unity (Whcih is why Nestor gets shot, really.)


Page 246
"You do realise that if we do not leave, we will die here," the Techmarine told them. "The virus can stay active for up to seventy days once released. That is over twenty days longer than the environmental systems in our armour can sustain us."
- The omniphagic virus can stay active for up to seventy days, whereas Space Marine enviromental systems last for only fifty days before failing. Boreas has to decide between his honor as a defender of the Imperium, or his honor as a Dark Angel and protector of its secrets, despite what all the secrecy has brought them to.

This is the culmination of the series, the 'atonement' as I see it. Rathr than selfishly choose to obliterate the planetary population on the off chance they can recover the almighty Geneseed, they sacrifice their lives (And indeed their immortality through that geneseed, as with them destroyed noone else can possibly be remade with it.) to preserve the lives of those they have sworn to defend. By that choice they choose to put others, the humanity of Piscinia, above the Dark Angel's obsession with their honour.


PAge 247
"We must act as a shining brand in the night, to lead the way for others to follow. We are the warriors of the Emperor, guardians of mankind. Roboute Guilliman called us bright stars in the firmament of battle, untouched by self-aggrandisement. Yet we, the Dark Angels, commit the supreme sin. We put ourselves before our duty. We have buried our traditions, masked our real history in legend and mysticism to confound others. We are not bright stars, we are an empty blackness, a passing shadow that serves nothing but its own purpose."
I quote this simply to show an idea of what Boreas's choice is, and why he is such a sympathetic, likeable, and downright decent Space Marein . Thorpe writes some of the best Dark Angels this side of Bill King, and its one of the reasons I so much like this novel. The ending is much more detailed as I recall, but so as not to spoil it I post only the most relevant bit, as it shows that Boreas has come a long way since the start of the novel - no longer is he the self-assured, sanctimonoious bastard who basicaly tortured someone into fitting his preconceptions, he is now a person awakened to the tragedy of the Dark Angels as they are today, and seeks amends by not perpetuating further atrocity.
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Re: Dark angels series analysis thread

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Throwing out Ravenwing. Its technically the 'sequel' to Angels of Darkness, whereas the SMB novel Gav did was actuall y a prequel, but I see AoD as having more in common with the Legacy of Caliban trilogy than having anything to do with SMB (Except having similar characters and locales.) Thematically, they're similar.

Legacy of Caliban is two things. One its a showcase for all the shit we got in the 6th edition Dark Angels codex (so basically a novellized toy catalog), but Gav actually managed to cram a story of sorts into here. IT follows the Ravenwing and Sammael on their efforts to track down the fallen, following the end of Angels of Darkness. Whilst doing so, we get the same discussion about the nature of the Angels and their pursuit of the Fallen.. and we also get the question of whether Sammael is making the same mistakes Boreas did.

By itself the book isn't as good as AoD I don't think, but I'm reserving judgement until the series is complete. This will be done in two parts.


Page 9
Brother Annael had wondered why, in over four hundred years of service to the Dark Angels Chapter
Dark Angel 400 years old. Considered old by his comrades, but he's ont exactly on death's door by any indication either. Given Nestor in Angels of Darkness was much older, this is hardly surprising.


Page 13
"You have yet to calibrate your sighting arrays, brother."
..
The screen flickered into life with a green light, showing a selection of scanning options. With a sub-vocal command Annael brought up the sighting display inside the lens of his right eye and activated the link between his armour and the machine. After a brief burst of static, the data from the bike’s array transferred into his autosenses, half of Annael’s view becoming a schematic of the mustering bay, the other members of the squad and their bikes highlighted by glowing red runes.
Space Marine doomcycle has sensors and autosense-links to the guns and other fun stuff, as well as data for the rest of the squad.


Page 17
...the Dark Angels’ strike cruiser Implacable Justice. All across the two and a half kilometres-long ship motors were growling into life and anti-grav engines whined
2.5 km long strike cruiser.. definitely not adhering to the FFG standard.


Page 17
Exhaust smoke billowed along wide corridors and across the metal aprons of the mustering halls; the clouds sucked away through atmosphere processors that would reclaim trace elements of minerals before the raw gases were shunted back into the air refinery plant and moisture extracted to keep alive those aboard the spaceship. Built to patrol for decades at a time, the Implacable Justice wasted nothing.
Recycling and conservation measures aboard the strike cruiser. Its acutally kinda neat that they'll 'recycle' exhaust smoke, presumably to make it into usable fuel again (or use it some other way.)


Page 18
In the launch bays, Land Speeders glided into position to be locked into their drop-shields, the crews and machines encased in slabs of reinforced ceramite and plasteel.
Drop shields for making orbital/high altitude drops, as we learn. Yes, even their speeders are drop capable now.


Page 19
A relic of the ancient past, Corvex was a larger, more heavily armed and armoured cousin to the bikes ridden by the rest of the company, suspended a few feet from the ground by powerful anti-grav engines, the workings of which had defied replication by the Chapter’s Techmarines.
The Dark Angels prestige jetbike. Its often assumed that antigrav tech (or jetbikes) are lost tech in general, whereas we know from any number of other sources (like Eisenhorn) that aircars, jetbikes, and the like still exist in some form. What actually seems to be lost tech is this particular brand of military jetcycle - the sort that can carry heavy weapons as well as powered armoured marines.
Or maybe the Dark Angel Techmarines are just stupid. LOL.

Page 30
Missile and battle cannon fire raked the entrenchments as the aircraft of the Ravenwing strafed through the boiling cloud engulfing the compounds. Shells and las-fire flickered into the heart of the nearest fort as gunners picked out their targets on thermal scanners and high-acuity sensor arrays.
Thunderhawk gunnery systems. We get lots of infrared/thermal scanner use in this novel.


Page 30
In the skies above the devastation, the remains of ablative drop-shields peeled away from plunging Land Speeders
Like I said, the land speeders are now drop capable. I wonder how they slow them down from terminal velocity/reentry-speed?


Page 30
Darkshrouds followed the descent. Modified from the standard Land Speeder chassis, each anti-grav vehicle carried a pitted, ancient statue from the Chapter’s fortress-monastery. The solemn hooded figures glowed with power, coils of cable sending nascent warp energy through arcane generators that threw out an all-concealing blanket of darkness. As they joined the attack, the shadow of the Darkshrouds enveloped the dropsite..
One thing that quickly becomes evident in this novel is that its showcasing literally a shit-ton of new stuff for 6th edition, and this is one of them. I doubt I'll cover it all in the book unless it has something worthwhile to say, but sufficed to say its all in there. Basically its a 'EW/claoking' system not unlike some of the Dark Eldar tech or some of the older shit . Basically 'big obscuring shroud of dark shit that makes it hard to find them.'
Whats interesting is that its apparently warp tech of some kind. Makes me wonder if its related to void and reflex shields.


Page 29-30
dark blurs streaked past them, slamming into the curtain walls of the compounds: high-velocity munitions from the strike cruisers’ bombardment cannons. The impact of the shells hurled rock and ferrocrete into the air and sent a cloud of pulverised masonry blooming over the citadels.
Bombardment cannons striking some sort of fort. Becomes important shortly.


Page 32
The dust and smoke obscured normal sight, as did the cloaking field of the Darkshrouds, but those were no barrier to the surveyor array built into Black Shadow.
Apparently the Dark Angels can see through the cloaking fields mentioend before. Either its meant to block normal sight but not sensors, or the Dark Angels have a means of circumventing this.

Page 32
A second later Annael hit the rim of a crater and for a moment he felt weightless as Black Shadow became airborne, plunging down into the smoking dip.
..
The explosion had torn a hole almost two hundred metres wide, most of that inside the compound. As soon as the squadron were through the breach ..
The bombardment cannons put a 200 m diameter crater in the ground. Either with multiple rounds or a single one, we don't quite know, but it probably hints at tens/hundreds of tons at least, possibly several kilotons if a single shell.


Page 34
...Annael opened fire, unleashing a short salvo of six bolts. The sparks of their propellant charge shrieked along the trench, ripping holes into the wood-reinforced wall and tearing three fist-sized chunks from the man’s back.
..
The man fired as Annael activated the bolters, the missile from his launcher screaming down the trench towards the squadron even as Annael’s fusillade turned him into scattered body parts.
Bolt rounds making 'fist sized' holes in their target one case, blowing bodies apart in another.


Page 34-35
...the wash of their jets momentarily flaring across Black Shadow’s sensors. They recovered in time to show a blur of orange fifty metres ahead; a rebel soldier pulling up some kind of heavy weapon.
...
Annael eased down on the throttle and glanced at the surveyor sweep on the display. There was a mass of enemy contact returns several hundred metres ahead, flooding towards the bridge leading to the next compound; left intact to allow such a retreat.
Thermal sensors again, this time from the bike (and apparently part of the surveyors) range of several hundred km, they can identify individuals (and potential heavy weapons, but not the type.)


Page 36-37
Several seconds later Annael caught a glimpse of a multi-barrelled weapon beneath a camouflaged canopy...
...
"The net must be woven of some kind of scrambling material."
...
The cannon opened fire before the squadrons’ weapons could be brought to bear, unleashing a stream of las-fire at one of the Land Speeder squadrons ...
..
.. the snaking power cables of the multi-laser.
Man portable multi lazor. CS Goto would *never* get away with this, but I actually think its a useful and good idea. Sort of a lazer machine gun support weapon, which has definite advantages given you don't have to worry about ammo as much. In fact one wonders why the IG doesn't make use of more LAZORS in its weaponry simply for the logistics benefits.


Page 37
Annael looked directly at one of the gunners, his left thumb pressing a targeting rune. The guns on his bike elevated and swivelled to follow his gaze. A red lock-on gleamed in his view and a chime sounded in his ears. Muzzle flash lit up the front of his bike as he opened fire, the machine-spirit of Black Shadow keeping the bolters on their target even as the motorbike bounced across the ground and Annael strafed left and right.
Again there is a link between the Space marine autosenses and the targeting system of the bike's bolters, to the point where they will adjust aim to where the eyes point them. Pretty neat really.


Page 39-41
The bridge was wide enough for three dozen men to walk abreast..
..
..those wise enough to commandeer half-tracks and ground cars were racing across the half-kilometre span.
..
Alerted by a warning signal in his ear, Sammael swerved Corvex to the right, moments before a rocket sent up a shower of ferrocrete shards from the road ahead. It had come from a small half-tracked wagon halfway along the bridge...
..
More rockets screamed from the launcher atop its rear compartment...
..
Sighting on the half-track as two crewmen appeared on its roof, hurriedly trying to reload the rocket launcher..
The PDF of this world have half tracks for carrying troops, and they can be armed with weapons. This one seems to have some sort of multi-rack rocket launcher system, with a range of at least 250 m. rockets may be guided.
Presumably one could do that with Chimeras too, since we know one Chimera variant gave them hunter killer missile laodouts.


Page 44
The crisp chill of autumn created vapour from the heat exchanges in the Space Marines’ backpacks..
Powah Armor has heat exchangers (also a good point to aim at for heat seekers, and a good thing to keep away from thermal sensors.)


Page 44
Apollon held the auspex, gently swinging the scanning device left and right seeking a return.
..
"Contact, four hundred and fifty metres."
..
"Definitely enemy, moving at an angle to our advance. Large mass, I would say twenty or more. On foot."
Auspex range and what it detects.


Page 45
A two-rotored gyrocopter sitting on the landing apron made its purpose obvious.
Helicopter sort of.


Page 46-48
He strode to the lip of the ridge and examined the drop. ‘Too deep to jump."
..
"We must trust to our aim from here."
..
"One hundred metres behind us, seventy metres below"
..
In his right eye the aiming reticule of his targeter sprang into life as his finger settled on the trigger.
..
He fired another single round, aimed at the bald head of one of the leaders. Even as the bolt sped from his gun a minder stepped unknowingly into its path. A second later the rebel’s skull exploded, spattering the demagogue with blood and brains.
70 m is too much for a Space Marine to jump, evidently. Also bolter targeter which seems to be linked to the autosenses as well. bolter seemingly takes a second to cross a mere 100 metres.


Page 49
With a flick of his thumb, Telemenus switched his bolter to burst fire and unleashed a salvo of three rounds into its hull..
3 round burst on the bolter.

Page 49-50
Slowly the cockpit was swinging into view as the gyrocopter lifted higher and higher, bringing the pilot towards Telemenus.
...
"Assault cannon!"
..
Angled as far as its mount allowed, the multi-barrelled gun slung beneath the gyrocopter’s nose came to bear before Telemenus’s target came into view. A storm of shells scythed along the clifftop and engulfed him, slamming into his armour. The outer layer of his suit shattered, sending shards of ceramite spinning in all directions. The impact of the heavy shells on his left side turned him slightly as he fired, sending his salvo of bolts flaring past the canopy without effect. His autosenses picked up the rip of the cannon’s fire a split-second later.
...
He looked down at his left arm. His shoulder guard was nothing more than a few scraps of ceramite attached to the actuators. Blood poured from the cracks in the armour around his upper arm. He became aware of four neat holes punched into the left side of his breastplate, the shells from the assault cannon buried within, deep, but not enough to penetrate to flesh.
Helicopter assault cannon, does some damage on Space Marines, blasting away the pauldron and penetrating the armor (but not enough to do damage.) How many shots we dont know, however.


Page 50-51
"Paladin Four tasked for intercept."
..
He looked up as he heard the scream of plasma jets above. His hands moved on instinct, ejecting the spent magazine and inserting another as he followed the dark blur of a fighter soaring overhead, the dull ache in his arm ignored. With a flare of light, the aircraft fired a missile, which left a curving trail of vapour as its internal cogitator steered it after the departing gyrocraft. A few seconds later a distant but distinct crack was picked up by Telemenus’s autosenses.
...
"Target has ditched in the foothills," announced the pilot of Paladin Four. "Crash-landed."
..
"Sergeant Seraphiel, Squad Amanael preparing to investigate crash. "
..
" Squad Amanael is less than five kilometres from the crash site."
The copter goes down 5 km away, and the fighter (still in view and shortly after the intercept is tasked) launches a missile that shooots it down in a few seconds. given Space Marine vision is something like 1-2 km typically, we can figure the missiles have at least a 3-5 km range, and a airspeed of 1-2.5 km/s or so, with accel implied at many tens if not hundreds of gees.


Page 56
A warning chime attracted Annael’s attention to his scanner. They were within two kilometres of the crash site, which showed up on the display as a reading of dense artificial materials and heat..
range of sensors again, at least against the crashed copter.


Page 57
Annael narrowed his scanner array to detect the slightest variation from the ambient temperature and his vision lit up with signals of birds and small mammals fleeing from the oncoming bikes, and a ghostly trail that meandered between the trees ahead.
A Space Marine on nearly a tonne of motorbike was not built for a stealthy approach..
Weight of a Space Marine bike, as well as more on the sensors and its sensitivity.


Page 61
"Raedal is only three hundred light years away"
'only' 300 LY implies that they consider such a transit a fairly short jump. Unfortunately they never go there, so we dont know how long it would take to get there.


Page 64
The astropaths murmured a mantra to dislocate their conscious state, moving their minds from the bonds of corporeal form. Harahel needed no such ritual, but simply freed his thoughts from the tether of his synapses, his soul enmeshing with the spirits of the two astropaths.
Astorpathic trances. Librarians obviously do not need them to use their powers.


Page 73
A rangy man, Pichon was almost as tall as Sammael, whom he addressed in the middle of the strike cruiser’s bridge. An unaugmented human in his middle ages..
Which could mean he's either nearly 7 feet tall, or nearly 8 feet, depending on where you believe Space Marine heights are :P


Page 86
...Telemenus nodded acquiescence and raised his bolter, his view telescoping through its targeter to magnify a stand of stunted trees half a kilometre away. He scanned left and right and saw only his battle-brothers continuing their patrol...
Implied range of a bolter, at least through the telescopic targeter.


Page 94
Daedis and Athelman had disappeared from view, the return of their ident-markers on the scan display showing their progress around the far side of the citadel.
Sensors on the bike can also keep track of ident markers in the squad (other bikes)


Page 95
"More than fifty days since the armoury was last accessed. Last entry is an ammunition and weapons withdrawal. To be expected if the orks presented a threat again."
Suggestive of the approximate lenght of time that has passed since the end of Angels of Darkness.


Page 96
" Also their ship, the Blade of Caliban, is not in the system," added Sammael. "I assume that the strike cruiser returned to the Rock with some news of what happened here, prompting the message we received. "
Given they just recently received the message (and we dont know quite how far away they were) we could figure they traveled more than 300 LY in 50 days which is at least 2000c. We dont knwo where the Tower of Angels is exactly, but 'Angels of Darkness' implied it might be hundreds or thousands of LY away after Piscina IV. According to 5th edition core rules Piscina system (which may be the one we're talking about) is somewhere close to the border between Segmentum OBscurus and Ultima, and Storm of Vengeance places it approximately 6000 LY from the Eye of Terror, which I'd take with a grain of salt but its not that far out. The Map in 5th places the Rock (presumably circa 3rd Armageddon, which the Piscina battles were part of as per storm of Vengeance) close to the edge of Obscurus, suggesting perhaps at least 5-6 thousand LY and possibly more than 10-15 thousand LY away. If we figure the blade of Caliban made it to the Rock within that 50 day timeframe we get a speed of at least 36,000-100,000c depending on exact distance and time spent.


Page 98
Harahel drew their attention to a hole in the wall, the size of a Space Marine’s fist. Magnifying his autosenses, Sammael could see pieces of shrapnel embedded in the plaster within the gash.
"Bolt detonation," he said grimly. "It seems that it was one of our own that perpetrated the killings."
"Or one of their weapons was taken."
Bolter puts a 'space marine' sized fist in a wall of unknown composition (but its inside the Chapter Keep, so its probably pretty durable, like stone) and leaves shrapnel.


Page 102-103
Each Space Marine had a ragged hole through his body, armour melted, innards charred.
..
The fingertips of the dead Space Marine’s gauntlets were missing, each sliced cleanly through and cauterised. Turning over the Techmarine’s hand he saw molten swirls on the palm. The Grand Master looked at the other corpses and found the same injuries. There were tiny globules of molten metal and ceramite coating the insides of the wounds in their chests.
..
"Melta bomb held against the breastplate."
Melta bombs vs Power armour. Mostly thermal in effects (or at least partly so) may suggesting perhaps a shaped-charge like effect for meltas. The effect is not 100% directed at the target either, since the hands have some charring (and lost fingertips, probably from gripping the charge)

Page 103-104
.. the shroud of the Space Marine body to reveal the white armour of an Apothecary. There was no head on the body, only the blackened stump of a neck.
...
Aside from the absence of the Apothecary’s head there were no other visible injuries. There was significant charring of the armour around the cauterised wound, the paint obliterated and the ceramite melted down through several layers.
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"A single plasma shot to the head."
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"The Techmarine has a plasma pistol."
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The Chaplain inspected it for a moment, an orange icon springing into life with the whine of power cells charging. "The only shot fired, it would seem. Stacked cells contain ninety per cent reserve."
Which recalls the plasma headsplosion of Nestro by Boreas in Angels of Darkness, as well as the effects. Probably at least MJ range. It also used no more than 10% of the energy, suggesting the pistol has at least 10 shots.


Page 106-107
"‘We have pursued that which shamed our brethren when our time of triumph was at hand. It was a grave, unforgivable sin, which must be atoned for. That is beyond doubt. But these last days, an even greater sin has come to light. It is the sin of ignorance. It is the sin of past errors repeated"
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To hear Boreas speak from beyond the grave, to listen to a testimony that threatened to cast doubt on the teachings of the Chapter shook Sammael in a way that no physical foe could.
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Sammael wondered even if it was wise for him to hear them. Words carried ideas, and ideas could sow doubt; doubt that had evidently caused the garrison of Piscina to turn upon each other.
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"I ask myself what it means to be one of the Dark Angels. Is it to hunt the Fallen, chasing shadows through the dark places of the galaxy? Is it to pursue our quest at any expense, forgoing all other oaths and duties? Is it to lie, to hide and to plot so that others will never know of our shame? Is it to keep our own brethren unacquainted with the truth of our past, the legacy we all share in? Or is it to be a Space Marine? Is it to follow the path laid down by the Emperor and Lion El’Jonson at the founding of this great Imperium of man? To protect mankind, to purge the alien, cleanse the unclean?"
Sammael’s misgivings gave way to a simmering resentment, to hear his calling disparaged by one who had been a brother. That Boreas had not considered the Fallen a blight upon the galaxy was fast becoming clear. Somehow their corruption had passed to the Chaplain, twisting his view of the Dark Angels.
We get a bit more of Boreal's last message from Angels of Darkness, as well as Sammael and the Other Dark Angel's response to it. Unsurprisingly, they do not like it, do not like the idea of Boreas criticizing (or abandoning) the search for the Fallen.. all in all they're thinking he's a failure at this point. Which is kind of funny, since I viewed him that way from the start of Angels of Darkness and thought he got better as time went on (being truly noble by the end.) Its perhaps a reflection of the truth of his earlier statemetns that the Dark Angels, Sammael in particular, are reacting so violently against Boreas' words. Indeed Sammael even contemplates the fact he's listening to them may be contaminating. It literally never enters into their head that what they're after may actually be counter productive, or less useful than what they should be doing. And indeed there is a great deal of arrogance about the hunt for the Fallen, because its more about their honour than it is about the Good of the Imperium.
This reaction, and Sammael and the others resistance to it, is especially telling in light of the fact that by this point they're virtually ignoring not just one planet in need of help from Space Marines, but two (Piscina IV where they are at, and the one they left before to chekc on Piscina) all because of their little Fallen obsession. Heck, those who don't know about the Fallen (like the members of fifth Company) are irritated at this as well, although for some the reasons aren't all noble and pure. But what we have here is Sammael trodding the exact same path Boreas did in AoD, and we know where that lead.



Page 113
The tenement walls absorbed the fire of the bolters..
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His bike’s gun unleashed a blast into the lower floor of one of the buildings, the thumb-sized bolts leaving brief streaks of yellow in Annael’s thermal display, punching a hole through the ferrocrete to tear into a knot of attackers hiding within. ‘
Walls block bolter fire, but we dont know how thick they are. Also the bolts are 'thumb sized', wahtever that means (perhaps implying .50 calibre rather than .75?)


Page 125
The clatter of machinery and autoloaders rang around the muster hall. Servitors, legs reinforced with heavy gauge callipers, arms replaced with hoists and crane arms, lifted the bikes of Squadron Cassiel onto the service ramps. Unaugmented serfs in the livery of the armourium swarmed over the machines with ratchets, bolt drivers, parts and replacement armoured plates, while others connected up diagnostic terminals and recharger cables. This activity was overseen by two Techmarines, their armour black like the rest of the Ravenwing except for their dark red shoulder pads.
Inside a techmarines' armoury/repair center. Note the autoloaders and other stuff.


Page 125
The Space Marines were also surrounded by menials, offering protein-replenishing synth-loaves and ewers of thick, nutrient-enriched fluid. Hanging his helmet on his belt, Annael took the proffered drink and downed the contents of a jug in four long gulps, the sweetness of the liquid a salve to the acrid taste that always built up in his mouth during combat; a side effect of the Betcher’s gland that modified his saliva, he had once been told by an Apothecary.
...
Zarall stood impassively munching on a synth-slab...
Dark Angel cuisine. Beats some of the other stuff we've seen them eat.


Page 134
The hololith gleamed into life, displaying a network of Imperial star systems ranging out a thousand light years from Piscina. A red dot appeared in wilderness space roughly halfway between the Adeptus Mechanicus forge world at Casiorix, and the sparsely populated Orlean system, almost nine hundred light years from the Ravenwing’s current position.
Port Imperial's location. We learned about this place form Astelan in Angels of Darkness, but we also learn it wasn't destroyed (as the people in the book note, he lied. Big shock, right?) Halfway seems to imply perhaps at least 450, or perhaps 900 LY from their current position, however one chooses to define it.


Page 137
Telemenus watched the flickering trail of its propellant for seventy metres until the round struck the target, dead centre. The ferro-resinous alloy of the target sphere shattered as the bolt detonated, spraying silvery-red shards to the floor. In his mind’s eye, Telemenus saw an ork’s head ripped apart.
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He closed his eyes for the next shot, using his boosted musculomemetic sense and armour systems to target the next globe on the rack. His shot was rewarded by the telltale smash of a direct hit.
Astartes firing range. We dont know how big the metal spheres or exactly what they're made of, but its interesting. Especially when he's shooting blindfolded.


PAge 139-140
"Does it not give you concern, brother? First Hadria Praetoris and now Kadillus. Two cities where forces move against the rule of the Emperor, abandoned to the uncertain attention of others when the Dark Angels were present to sway the balance. Is this our duty, brother?"
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"Grand Master Sammael must attend to a higher duty."
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"He would weigh decisions on a scale that we cannot see. It is in his judgement that the Supreme Grand Master places trust.."
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"We leave Piscina, a world that lies under the aegis of the Chapter, to fight pirates?"
We again see an echo of the previous events of Angels of Darkness... the Dark Angels are caught up in a paradox.. they are supposed to be defenders of humanity and destroy the enemies of Mankind, yet tehy're preoccupied with their own personal crusade for atonement and revenge, no matter what the cost. The Deathwing/Ravenwing's obsession with the Fallen is pretty stupid, and yet.. I'm reminded of the 'Let the Galaxy Burn' short story where a company captain did something unpopular with his troops so as to achieve greater victory. There is a certain amount of truth to the 'Leaders must weigh matters beyond soldiers understandings.' but its a double edged sword. If the leaders motives aren't pure, then it can lead the rest of the Chapter astray.


Page 140
"You will pass ten days in the penitentium to transcribe the Angelis Hierarchia. "
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"Ten days contemplation, brother, and you shall be forgiven."
Ten days in contemplation means at least ten days in the warp perhaps.


Page 150-151
That it was sometimes necessary to lie to those that trusted him was another duty of the Chaplaincy that Malcifer was willing to bear. The Space Marines who had just departed had been manipulated to believe what the Chapter required them to believe..
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..not knowing fully the treachery that had brought the Dark Angels to the brink of destruction. It was a blessing for them to be ignorant, and a mercy for their souls that Malcifer did not encumber them with the unabashed truth.
Again as we saw with Angels of Darkness, it can be said that the Dark Angels have a strong fear of the truth of the times of the Heresy, and they make excuses for why they hide it from their brethren and from the Imperium at large. There may be some truth to them being destroyed if it was found out, but it doesn't really excuse the deception, nor the arrogance and selfishness behind it. Even if they atone for all the Fallen, what will matter then? They'll still have over ten millenia (or more) of deceit and falsehoods behind them, and its unlikely they will come out and admit everything to the Imperium at large or their other brethren.

Page 151
Some had silver and gold service studs in their brows, marking half-centuries and centuries of war.
The meaning of service stud coloration

Page 157
The Implacable Justice had been waiting on the edge of the system for the other ship for six days, the vessels having been separated by the tides of the warp during transit to the Polgoth system. For those six days, passive sensor readings had detected the mass of Port Imperial and three small vessels.
10-16 days of warp travel to reach the system, at least. We dont know if this is the exact figure, but it can't be any less than that. As we noted before the distance is between 450-900 LY depending on itnerpretation, which means that warp speed is between 16-32 thousand c tops.


PAge 157
..the two strike cruisers had translated in close proximity to each other and the star fort was only four days away at cruising speed.
4 days away, 96 hours of cruising speed. I've heard from here that WW2 ships have a cruise speed generally of 15-20 knots as opposed to 30-40 knots top speed, so we might figure between 1/2 and 2/3 (I've heard both roughly.) And for airplanes here you get a claimed 85% of top speed.

PAge 157
Lacking any powerful scanning equipment or psykers to detect the arrival of the Dark Angels’ ships, the pirates were wholly unaware of the two strike cruisers that prowled in-system.
Psykers can double as scanning equipment.


Page 158
Forty-two standard hours after the Penitent Warrior had arrived both ships were in position to scan for the enemy.
We don't know how far away they were, but we can make guesses depending on acceleration. Strike cruisers are at least 4.5 gees (as per Rogue Trader RPG, being similar to light cruisers) If we assume 10-85% of max sustained accel (see 'cruising speed' entry before) we can go between 4.5 m/s^2 and 38 m/s^2 roughly. 42 hours translates to 1.75 days, or little over half of the 4 day timeframe from before.
If we figure the full 96 hours to reach the system at the aforementioned accel velocity is betwee1,556 km/s and 13,132 km/s assuming no slowdown. Half that speed if they have to slow down.
If we go by 42 hours we get 'only' 680 to 5,746 km/s roughly. as current speed.


Page 158
"No void shields detected, which is good news. "
Void shields produce an emitting signautre. considering they're miniature warp rifts in this novel, no surprise.


Page 158-159
" I am surprised they can even find this place after their raids, lacking navigators."
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"There is a warp-beacon within the lair," said Harahel. "I could feel its signal before we translated. The navigators reported detecting several more surrounding the system out to fifty light years. The pirates’ hunting ground is small."
"Yet those same beacons are the bait that draws in the unwary. A lone ship, perhaps needing to re-establish its bearings, would make transition at one of the beacon sites, only to be ambushed by these pillagers."
The pirates can make short range (tens of light years) warp jumps without navigators in a fairly brief period of time, and they have some means of creating warp 'beacons' which are obviously psychic and draw in prey.. as the Librarian can pick them up. The nature and means of creating the beacons are unknown, but presumably the Imperium does so as well, else the pirates would not use them as bait.
Also a 50 LY radius 'hunting ground' is considered small for pirates, suggesting they can be much larger. Considering we're talking fair chunk of a Sector in size, that says alot about non-navigator warp jumps.


Page 159
"Two smaller ships, equivalent to a destroyer or rapid strike vessel in size, and what appears to be a rebel Imperial Navy frigate."
Important to note, as we get clarification of the ship sizes later on.


Page 160
"Assign primary target to enemy frigate. Designation Mongrel. Report range, repeat on standard intervals."
"Four hours until optimum range, Grand Master"
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"Designate smaller vessels as Rat One and Rat Two."
..
Just after the two hour mark. a serf appeared with a tray of food and drink for the Grand Master and his companion.
4 hours.. assuming they accelerated for two hours now to reach optimum range at the aformentioend accel rates its 32-274 km/s. with the previous 680-5746 km/s we get 712-6,020 km/s total speed, potentially.



Page 160
..Sammael as he broke off a chunk of heavy, blackened soyslab.
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..the dark loaf of synthetic food almost tasteless.
More space marine cuisine and we also get an idea of what 'synthetic' foods may be (soy in this caes.)


Page 161-162
With still an hour left until the attack began...
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"Have all torpedoes readied, full spread,"
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"Increase thrust to full battle speed. Signal the alert."
This passage suggests acceleration may be the context they mean by 'speed' since thrust would play mor to acceleration, although it may mean 'increase accel to we reach battle speed' 2 hours left to close and we can at least infer they're accelerating by this point, even if they haven't accelerated before.


Page 162
..the buzz and grind of metriculators and babble of servitors intensified as scanner readings were correlated and firing solutions calculated.
Probably for torps, but it sounds sophsiticated for space battles.


Page 162
"Active scan detected from the enemy base, Grand Master,"
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"The scum are preparing to bolt. Launch torpedoes, four salvos, arc four-sixteen, declination thirty. If they try to power directly out-system they will run into the torpedo spread."
They're within range of an active scan, and they decide to launch torpedoes (we're about an hour out from effective gunnery range at this point.
An hour to accelerate before launching torpedoes, and they're two hours out. an hour at 4.5-38 m/s^2 is 'only' 16-137 km/s. Assuming another hour you get... 57,600-493,200 km.
If we include the previous 2 hours at 32-274 km/s you get betwen 115,200-986,400 km additional, for roughly 173,000 and nearly 1,480,000 km. Add on the 42 hours of accel (680-5746 km/s) prior to that is another 2,448,000-20,685,600 km... which leads to upwards of 22 million km potential range. Its not necesarily 'effective' torpedo range, but its potential to hit if the target isn't careful. And it is possible, as it woudl be consistent with the implied torpedo ranges in 'Sons of Fenris' (25 million km there.) torpedo velocity alone would be tens if not hundreds of km/s at least, and probably more like thousands for absolute velocity.
Given what we know of various sources, hundreds of thousands of km is quite possible, which leans more towars the higher end than the lower end of things. Bear in mind though these are approximations, because we dont have definite figures on the ship's velocity or thrust.


Page 163
The Dark Angels strike cruisers could easily outpace the smaller vessels in a straight pursuit, given that the enemy would take some time for their plasma reactors to come to full power while the Space Marine ships were already at combat velocity. Sammael had aimed successive torpedo spreads not at the enemy star fort, but on a trajectory that cut off an avenue of escape for the docked ships. They would have to dare the torpedoes to take the most direct route away from their berths, and more likely would come about, heading to port across the bows of the approaching attackers.
This actually suggests the strike cruisers accelerate faster than a light cruiser - hell faster than most frigates (which in FFG terms can make a good 5-6 gees at the minimum)
Also both strike cruisers moving at 'combat velocity', and plasma reactors (logically) do not ramp up to full power immediately, and take time to achieve maximum accleration from a stnadby/stop.


page 164
A space battle was not the sudden cut and thrust of a Ravenwing assault, but a more measured, almost balletic process. The distances were vast and the time required to correct a mistake could well leave a gap for his enemies to escape their punishment. It would be at least another hour until the Implacable Justice was in effective range with its gun batteries..
Comments on the nature of space batlte (seeming to favor that 'slow, long range, gradual' style and an hour to close on the target.

Page 166
..Rat Two powered ahead, veering to starboard to avoid the onrushing wave of torpedoes launched by the Implacable Justice.
Suggesting the torpedoes were close on target, so they have a range equal to their velocity plus 4 hours or so of travel, implying millions of km range (or more)

Page 166
[qote]Sammael briefly considered another torpedo salvo, but decided against such a course of action. Rat Two was only a few hundred metres long, less than a quarter of the size of the Implacable Justice. Each torpedo from the strike cruiser contained several dozen warheads of which only three or four would need to hit to utterly obliterate the fleeing pirate craft. [/quote]
Less than a quarter the size may mean length or volume, but if its length it menas its 600 m long which is quite a bit more than 'few hundred metres.' indeed given the clarification later its quite conservative.
Also we see Gav Thorpe's love of MIRV'ed torpedoes instead of the 'penetrate and detonate' variety, several dozen warheads this time. If we assume megaton range like he seemed to favor in his Horus Heresy novels, we migth figure hundreds, perhaps even thousands, of megatons total torpedo payload.
Less than an hour away and they consider another torpedo volley, it also implies the torpedo volley crossed whatever distance it has crossed that distance considerably faster than the torepdoes.. at least 45 minutes to the implied hour (see below for 15 minutes remaining) and torpedoes are at least 1/3 again the speed of the ship.

Page 166
Under Sammael’s command the Implacable Justice moved to full-speed, describing a long arc until it was directly behind Rat Two.
If we needed further confirmation, the Imperial ships are moving flat out now. Max accel, max velocity.


Page 168
Sammael checked the chronometer and range readings. Rat Two was still accelerating hard and Implacable Justice would not be within weapons range for fifteen minutes.
Fifteen minutes from getting in weapons range. That means the Strike cruiser was more than 15 minutes away (or less) before suggesting another torpedo volley.


Page 168
For the next few minutes the two ships ahead of the Penitent Warrior engaged in several drastic changes of heading, perhaps fearing another torpedo attack.
few minutes of evasive beliefed to help avoid torpedo attacks at 15 minutes away from close range. That oculd imply a belief torpedoes would strike within a few minutes. Perhaps not. It does, I suppose, depend on what a person thinks 'a few' minutes means :P

Page 169
"If they had fought a light cruiser before, they would know that they are outgunned and certainly in a position of weakness to attempt a head-on attack."
Strike cruisers and light cruisers are comparable, at least in firepower.

Page 169-170
A range scale counted down between the reticules on the screen and then flashed red to confirm the enemy had come into firing range of the Dark Angels ship. From a dorsal turret atop the spine of Mongrel a lance battery opened fire, sending the beam of a laser towards the Penitent Warrior. The blue streak slashed across the heavens for several seconds, missing the strike cruiser by a wide margin. Its capacitors drained, the lance beam disappeared. The Penitent Warrior was not yet in range with its weapons and was forced to endure another lance beam before it could bring its guns to bear. This time the pirates’ fire was more accurate, the beam of high energy causing the strike cruiser’s void shields to activate. Warp energy flared in a purple and green corona around the Penitent Warrior as the enemy’s lance ran from the starboard bow to the port stern. As the searing energy of the beam dissipated, the strike cruiser was left undamaged, the energy of the attack absorbed by the void shield.
Thirty seconds later, the Dark Angels were in range to respond.
This is an interesting and useful passage. Frigate has a lance battery.. and its on a dorsal turret. That means its a damn big frigate.. heavy frigate close to light cruiser size, given that in BFG and Rogue Trader RPG lances on escorts were prow weapons (too big for turrets) unless its a much smaller/lighter lance and turret (or lance analogue.) Either way its purportedly a laser, meaning light speed. And it takes several seconds to hit, meaning a range of several light seconds, implying a frigate range for lances of 600,000-900,000 km.
It also takes less than a minute for the strike cruiser to cross into effective ewapons range of its batteires. Assuming between 32 and 6000 km/s roughly this translates to a range of between 240,000-540,000 km to just under 600,000-900,000 km. Which has implications shortly.
But before we get to that, this gives us a useful way to play with torpedo ranges. We know it took between 15 minutes and an hour (at least) for torpedoes to strike across a range greater than 2-3 light seconds. Or a 'few minutes' depending on how you look at things If we go with an hour torpedo velocities are between 167-250 km/s. If its only fifteen minutes, we get 667-1000 km/s. If we play this backwards to teh hour from 15 minutes, we get an effective torpedo range of 2.4 to 3.6 million km. If we try playing other ranges (from The Primarchs, Iron Hands, etc) we can go between 200 and 800 km/s we get between 720,000 km to 2.88 million km for an hour, and 'only' 180,000-720,000 km. And these values don't include the range added by the ship's velocity (or the closing velocity of the other ships which we don't know) which could add hundreds of thousands to millions of km more.
Either way it seems safe to say that torpedoes can definitely reach the high hundreds of thousands to low millions of kilometres, if not more.
Of additional interest is the void shields absorbing the lance attack. As we know from Imperial armour and Gav's other sources (Deliverance Lost, the Path of the Eldar novels, etc.) void shields are warp portals, and the energy gets absorbed into the warp.


Page 170
Tracking Mongrel as the strike cruiser closed on the pirates, the turret housing Penitent Warrior’s bombardment cannon turned, sophisticated sensor arrays locking on to the frigate’s position and course while inorganic cogitators calculated the firing trajectory required. The bombardment cannon was mostly used in orbital support – bringing devastation from afar as they had at Hadria Praetoris – but it was no less effective against enemy ships. Additional stabiliser engines flared into life to keep the strike cruiser on course as the bombardment cannon opened fire, a plume of igniting gas ejecting from the barrel of the immense gun. For several minutes the cannon unleashed shells the size of gunships, filling the vacuum around Mongrel with hurtling ordnance.
Three of the shots struck the incoming frigate, two amidships and one to the stern. The void shield generators flared into life for the first, shunting the energy of the shell’s impact into the warp, but the second and third hits scored directly against the ship’s hull. Velocity alone was enough for the shells to punch through metres-thick armour, and time-delayed fuses ignited inside the frigate, activating the plasma cores of the bombardment shells to rip out building-sized chunks of superstructure. Hundreds of crew were incinerated in a moment; dozens more pulped by the blast wave and shredded by explosive decompression. Plasma and debris blossomed from the wounds, heeling the ship over to port, the expulsion of energy forcing Mongrel from its original heading.
Ahh, now we get to the fun bit. Bombardment cannon blasting the fuck out of the frigate. We dont know how many shots were fired, but it took several minuts so we can figure it took no longer for the shells ot hit, roughly speaking. It may be less, as the lance didnt fire before the shells seemed to hit (afte they hit they go off target) which may suggest 30-60 seconds or less to hit. Which means the issue only comes down to distance.
Earlier I assessed the range potential as anywhere from 240,000 km to 540,000 km at the highest estimated closing speed, to 600-900 thousand km at the other end. For 2-3 minute travel speed at those ranges you get betwen 1300 and 2000 km/s. Which seems low for a bombardment cannon but.. remmeber that the closing velocity itself was over 6000 km/s as estimated, which means the combined KE on impact is some 7-8 thousand km/s. If it was at 2-3 light seconds you get between 3.3 thousand and 7,500 km/s at least. Actually, several times that, given that multiple shells hit in that timeframe, which could suggest upwards of 9-22,500 km/s for the latter case, and 9300-15,000 km/s in the former. And if it took 'only' 30-60 seconds for the first shell to hit we're looking at upwards of 30,000 km/s.
for simplicity's sake, I'll assume the velocity falls between 3 and 30 thousand km/s per shell. Which were described as 'big as thunderhawks'. we know of shells implied to be bigger (hundreds or thousands of tons) but we'll go with 120 tons here (size of a thunderhawk) At 3000 km/s you get a KE of 5.4e17 J per shell, and 3.6e11 kg*m/s. At the opposite end you get 5.4e19 J and 3.62e12 kg*m/s. Which suggests from KE alone the frigate tanked high megatons to low gigatons without being totally obliterated. More, actually, since the warheads go off *inside* and they are arguably much more powerful than the KE, and yet even with those added in the frigate is not destroyed, only 'crippled'.
Of course if for some reason we infer my previous estimations on the velocity are off, we can infer that the bombardment cannon are considerably faster than torpedoes... call it 150-1000 km/s (per this novels torpedo estimates and prior like 'the Primarchs') That yields a KE 'only of 1.3e15 J per hit, which is still a good couple hundred kilotons at the bare minimum., and at the higher end we're talking 6e16 J, which is definteily double digit MJ per hit.
On the other hand if we take the 'Execution Hour' velocity for bombardment cannon... nearly a quarter the speed of light each shell hits at 3.5e20 J and 9.3e12 kg*m/s momentum.. which is definitely closer to what I estimated and much more 'ouch'.
Also again the KE of the first impact gets shunted into the warp, but the second and third hit before shields can come back online. This tends to suggest again endurance (or mass/energy volume) are the factors that affect overcoming shields, rather than raw power.
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Part 2

Page 170
Armoured shields slid back from the gun decks of the Dark Angels vessel, revealing battery after battery of missile launchers, plasma drivers and macro-cannons.
Rat One’s own meagre batteries started firing early, sending a barrage of laser and shell fire towards the strike cruiser.
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Fire and laser beams erupted along the hull of the Penitent Warrior, moving from bow to stern on both the port and starboard sides as the strike cruiser passed between the two approaching ships. For several minutes the weight of fire fell upon the Dark Angels’ foes, by which time the strike cruiser was already turning sharply to starboard to come around behind Mongrel.
The missiles and shells hit the two vessels with dozens of direct impacts.
Broadside weapons of the strike cruisers - missiles, projectiles, energy weapons (laser and plasma.) Enemy ships sustain several minutes of fire without being destroyed.


PAge 172
The gunnery crews were ordered to fire as they each came to bear, a half-volley of laser and plasma that slammed into the unshielded engines of the frigate.
More of the strike cruisers armament. Its rather well armed for a Space marine vessel.


Page 172
..Sammael ordered the main display to focus on Rat Two. The ship looked to be some kind of heavily modified short-range cargo hauler. She was wide in the beam, at least four hundred metres from port to starboard, and perhaps only two hundred metres high. Three-quarters of a kilometre long, most of the ship was taken up with cargo holds and engines, with just a small crew space and bridge along the dorsal decks. Two freight bays had been converted into gun mountings, an array of asymmetric laser batteries and energy relays clumsily protruding from poorly armoured turrets and gantries.
Recall that the ship in question was described as being the size of a destroyer or rapid strike vessle, meaning at least some destroyer/raider/Strike vessels are under a kilometre, and more than likely warp capable (like the Blade of Caliban from Angels of Darkness.) How they achieve this (when FFG says that ships smaller thana km are rare) I dont know, probably some tradeoffs in design.
Also its 3/4 of a km long now, rather than being 'less than one fourth' the length of a strike cruiser Call it 600-800 metres or thereabouts.


Page 173
"Rat Two accelerating"
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"Velocity increasing by five per cent."
"They are overcharging their reactors."
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"Acceleration reaching ten per cent additional,"
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"Velocity still increasing."
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"‘Report our reactor status," snapped Sammael. In half a minute the target ship would be beyond effective range again.
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"Optimal and eighty-five per cent."
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"Increase to one hundred per cent, all speed ahead.."
Priate ship over-runs its reactor, and the Strike cruiser was running at 85% max power, meaning its been at close to max accel for most of the battle.


Page 174
"Full power to navigational and void shields. Brace for debris."
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Despite breaking thrusters and a sharp turn to port, the momentum of the Implacable Justice took the strike cruiser into the expanding cloud of gas and debris.
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Sammael could feel the ship shuddering as it continued to turn through the dense zone of collapsing plasma, the low-frequency navigational fields pushing aside what remained of Rat Two while the void shields absorbed the energy of the artificial star.
Strike cruiser has nav shields for deflecting debris, and however fast the ship is still moving (hundreds or thousands of km/s maybe) it passes through with unknown quantity of debris. Also 'energy of artificial star' - make of that whatever you will *snicker*


Page177-178
Port Imperial looked like a city floating in the void. From a square foundation of plasteel-reinforced ferrocrete and tapering spires nearly ten kilometres across, four docking arms jutted out a kilometre from each corner of the station.
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In armoured bastions built around the docking spars where they met the main hub, missile batteries and macro-las cannons turned towards the approaching ships
Imperial star fort, armaments and such.


Page 178
The torpedoes and attack craft were too small to be targeted by these main weapon systems..
Fighters and torpedoes too small for capital weapons to intercept.


Page 181
The pirate craft were a mix of single and two-man fighters, armed for the most part with missiles and autocannons. While the strike cruisers and star base duelled over thousands of kilometres, between these behemoths the small craft of both sides engaged over hundreds of metres.
Range of ship to ship combat vs fighter combat.


Page 181-182
Stabs of blue light spat out from the four lascannon-armed Nephilim forming the tip of the Dark Angels attack, causing the motes of plasma trails to scatter. Flurries of Blacksword missiles followed swiftly after, swerving and jinking as their artificial brains guided them towards the energy signatures of the enemy craft. The pirate craft were built only for void battle, stubby boxes of bare metal illuminated by the glare of attitude jets and main thrusters, whirling away from the Ravenwing onslaught with plumes of red and orange. Rockets rippled from side-mounted pods, spraying out towards the Ravenwing..
Dark Angel fighters with quad lascannon and anti-fighter missiles (The same ones used on the ground) and they're guided.
Also comments on pirate space fighters.


Page 182
.. the second wave of Nephilim, six craft, opened fire with their megabolters. ..
One craft turned into a ball of plasma as it crossed the path of hundreds of rounds, its engines punctured by the fusillade. Behind it another fighter split apart, shredded from cockpit to thrusters by a lascannon beam.
more Dark Angel toys, a fighter with megabolters (presumably like the titan/superheavy weapons) Whether its hundreds of rounds from one fighter or multiple, however, we don't know.


Page 182
Telemenus felt the Thunderhawk tremble as its battle cannon opened fire. The large-calibre ordnance was more suited to blowing apart ground targets, but the fusillade of shells erupting from the onrushing gunships parted the enemy fighters..
Battle cannon can be used in air/space combat, but they're not optimized for it.


Page 183-184
... the attack fleet was coming within range of the star base’s defence grid. Much of the close-range weapons systems had been targeted by the strike cruisers, but as the gunships passed enemy range mark, ripples of cannon fire and rockets hurtled from the station’s remaining defence turrets.
..
Lacking the more sophisticated targeting matrices of the Ravenwing craft, the pirate fighters and the base gunners opted for weight of fire over accuracy. Their spewing salvoes created a blanket of missiles and shells through which the gunships were forced to pass. The impacts against the hull grew in intensity and frequency and every few seconds the Thunderhawk would rattle from a close detonation...
..
By the time Telemenus’s autosenses detected zero pressure they had passed the five thousand metres mark.
...
A slit of light appeared as the vista passed underneath a docking spar and a red sigil appeared in Telemenus’s view, the range to target counting down beside it: one hundred kilometres.
Implies that the point defenses of the station have a range of at least 5 km, or 100 km, depending on which context you go by. Shots seem to hit within a few seconds or less, suggesting single/double digit km/s velocities for rockets and shells.


Page 184-185
..Dark Talons swept past, opening fire with their rift-cannons. Warp generators unleashed coruscating beams that rippled with power from the immaterium, tearing through the fabric of reality. The streaming warp particles struck the plating and buttresses surrounding the fighter bay entrance, creating ravening warp holes that collapsed the armoured bulkheads in upon themselves.
Yeah.. the Dark Angels showcase even more fancy technology. remember when only hte Eldar had D-cannon? well not any longer, the Imperium (or rather the SPACE MARINES or the Dark angels) have fighter mounted D-cannon. Warp particle beams :D


Page 187
...The flare of the bolt-round highlighting the shocked expression on a thin face a split second before the man’s head was blown apart.
Headsplosion.


Page 189
...he and the rest of the squadron were in a boarding torpedo hurtling towards the armoured skin of Port Imperial at several thousand miles per hour.
Probably one of the slowest moving torpedoes in 40K fiction, ever. :D


Page 190
Whether speeding across the void in an armoured missile or falling through the sky towards an uncaring planet’s surface, his fate was beyond his control.
..
.. the torpedo’s plasma propellant could misfire and incinerate them all; a shot from Port Imperial’s defence batteries could turn their carriage into slag in an instant...
..
.. the melta-jets could fail to penetrate the metres-thick hide of the space station so that they crashed against the surface rather than punched through.
Boarding torpedo could be 'slagged' by defense battery fire, whether single or multiple shots we dont know. Assuming a 10-100 ton torpedo and iron composition figure between 10-100 GJ - double to triple digit GJ over however many shots.
Also the torpedo needs the melta charges to breach the hull - it cannot do so on impact alone.


Page 192
Seconds before impact fusion-flares ignited, turning the nose cone of the manned missile into a white-hot spearhead. Proximity-triggered melta-charges detonated milli-seconds before impact, vaporising the first two metres of armour-plate. The fusion flares and diamond-tipped drill-shards churned through the remaining two metres while shockplates splinted and crumbled, disintegrating to dust as they absorbed the energy of impact. The metre-thick outer casing of the torpedo crumpled like foil and slewed away, secondary boosters thrusting the inner missile through the molten ruin of the star fort’s outer skin.
Boarding torpedo penetrates station hull, which is ~4 metres thick. Millisceond-duration melta charges vaporizing armor plate of unknown type. Assuming a 5 m diameter torpedo, and 2 m thick and iron composition figure close to 3 TJ.


Page 198
Annael’s next bolt ripped apart her chest, spraying blood and bone down into the carriage.
...
He coolly returned fire with his pistol, the headless body of a renegade falling onto the cage roof..
More bolt carnage.


Page 201
...fired at the plasma gunner. A round hit the combustion chamber of the weapon and it detonated, enveloping the pirate in superheated gas. Skin blistering, flesh slewing away from the bone, the man toppled over the walkway rail and span crazily to the floor, his impact punctuated by another small plasma detonation.
Plasma gun gets hit, immolates gunner. Probably at least double digit MJ, although whether that sper shot or for the entire magazine we can't say. Odd that the plasma gun has a 'combustion chamber' though.


Page 205
Telemetric feedback from the advanced squadrons was being transmitted to the Implacable Justice and the digital chart was being regularly updated.
Strike cruiser receiving telemetry from Space Marines on the staiton.


Page 211
ith a slow whine, the magnetic accelerators of Corvex’s plasma cannon charged, funnelling energy from the machine’s miniature reactor. With a high-pitched shriek and a crack of super-expanding air the plasma bolt sped from the ejector muzzle beneath the front fairing, filling the chamber with flickering blue and purple light for a moment. Hitting the stairwell, its containment field disintegrating, the plasma charge exploded, engulfing everybody on the first flight of steps in a ravening corona of heat and electrical discharge. Those whose bodies were not vaporised immediately fell screaming down the steps, flesh burned to the bone, nerves and blood vessels shredded by the energy unleashed.
Plasma cannon in action. Assuming it vaporizes multiple bodies literally, we're talking hundreds of MJ apiece at least. If we just figure 'explode' we could infer fourth degree flaying burns (400 j per sq cm) exploding the bodies (which will be 4-8 MJ at least per body) as well as a further several MJ at least for those caught by the secondary effects.. figure double digit MJ
Also intresting is that the plasma weapon has a shell-like nature with a 'containment field' - whatever the field is its not an EM field or mag bottle or anything like that. What the field is and how they create the containment is a complete mystery.


Page 224-226
"The motivations of the enemy are always worthy of consideration"
...
"It speaks to their mindset and allows us to understand their tactics and capabilities. If we cannot comprehend why it is that our foes fight, what chance have we of knowing the means they will employ? Does their self-perceived unworthiness make them better or worse fighters? Do they hope to attain worthiness in battle?"
...
"Is that not our goal?"
...
"Glory and honour are the means by which we judge ourselves, brother. Without them, do we not consider ourselves also unworthy of our place amongst the Chapter?"
...
"You cannot compare the two," Sabrael answered quickly, offended by the question. "We have already been deemed worthy by those who brought us into the Chapter. Each of us is an anointed warrior of the Emperor, and that brings with it a certain amount of honour that cannot be removed. Our foes, scabrous and vile as they are, cannot measure themselves by the same standard. If they judge themselves against us, they will always be the Unworthy no matter their courage or efforts."
..
"If we are paragons of worth, as you say, then might our foes see worth in defeating us? We take no glory in killing lesser foes, so it must be the case that there is glory in killing a greater foe for our enemies. Our very presence gives purpose and meaning to our enemies. To kill a Space Marine, for those who have turned from the guidance of the Emperor, must be a goal in itself and one that brings worth."
..
"We do not seek out the toughest enemies for the simple sake of proving our worth, nor do we shirk from slaying those who cannot match us simply because we can. We kill our enemies as part of a higher purpose, whether individually they are lesser or greater than ourselves. The Chapter and the Emperor are the higher purpose that drives us. Which brings more glory to the Chapter, to slay one greater foe or a hundred lesser foes?"
A bit of Space Marine psychologic and ethics. It's always kind of interesting to me to see these things, as they're always interesting in how the Space Marines justify their own actions - and how those justifications not only differe between Chapters, but are an attempt to differentiate themseles from their enemies. There is some truth to what is being said, of course, but the kneejerk way in which Astartes always try to differentiate themselves from things they detest or don't like, as well as the inconsistency with which they try to 'understand' things (we'll see this more later on, with the unquestioning adherence to what Sammael does.) is hilarious for the doublethink involved.


Page 226
..Annael monitored the sensor readings on Black Shadow’s display. They showed a strengthening return several hundred metres down the tunnel to Annael’s left, towards the hub of the star fort
bike sensor ranges again.


Page 231
Acting out of instinct, he turned his left shoulder towards the projectile, to take the blast on his pauldron. The missile did not hit directly, but glanced from the curved plate and slammed into the wall behind Annael. Ferrocrete fragments and dust engulfed him as the missile exploded.
Pauldrons prove useful for once.


Page 234
Opening a panel in the left vambrace of his armour, Annael pulled free a cable and jack, plugging his vox-system into Black Shadow’s. The bike had a stronger transmitter and receiver..
Power armor comms can plug into the bike's comms for boosted range.


Page 239
..just in time to see an ork’s head exploding from a bolt impact.
..
..Telemenus’s next shot cracking open the top of its head as it fell, dead before it hit the ground.
..
..Telemenus continued to fire at the orks pressing in from the corridor, blowing off arms and legs..
Bolter fire massacring orks. Orks being more massive and tougher than humans, this is correspondingly more impressive


Page 242
Inspecting the pierced ribbing, he saw the polymer expanding to close the breach, just as his blood cells were clotting to seal the wound in his flesh. Although it was not perfect, the joint would hold well enough for the moment, as would his leg.
The flexible bits under the power armor plating has self-sealing properties, complementing the Larraman cells.


Page 245-246
Telemenus replied, pointing with his bolter towards a group of small huts about seventy metres away.
The other members of the squad had taken up a position near two shacks butting up against the wall of the chamber.
..
Telemenus spied a group of orks, fifteen or more, slinking through the gap between two workshops. Moving from one pile of debris to another, keeping to the cover of mangled engine parts and scrap, they were out of sight of the Dark Angels.
..
Daellon’s flamer was of no use at this range..
Implied range of flamer less than 70 metres.


Page 246
He switched his bolter to burst fire and stopped, locking his armour into a stable firing position.
Power armor locks the armor against the recoil of bolters.

PAge 254
..he engaged Black Shadow’s secondary engine. Running off a stacked crystal cell similar to the one in his armour’s backpack the bike’s growl quietened to a soft purr as the secondary core took over from the main motor. It was not quite silence but it would afford him the element of surprise should he need it, though at a cost of lower performance from his steed.
SM Bikes are battery powered as a secondary/backup function, trading performance for versatility (probably works as a good backup power source, as well as the 'quieter' function mentioned above.)


Page 254
Annael risked a wide-spectrum scan pulse, judging that the Unworthy would not have the means to detect the millisecond burst of energy. His telemetric display updated a few seconds later as the readings were processed by Black Shadow’s cogitator, showing a maze of rooms ahead, each only a few metres square. They looked like pre-formed habitations that had been fitted at some later time onto the base of the superstructure, stacked three deep and five across on two levels. A labourer slum, he decided as he reviewed the schematic.
The scan also confirmed his suspicion of life signals, more than fifty crowded into the enclosed spaces.
Gav seems to have a real thing for giving Space Marines detailed sensors like that. Information displayed after millisecond active sensor pulse off the Marine bike.


Page 256
He had little experience dealing with non-combatants, and had never encountered any as wretched as this group. There was little in his training to prepare him for such an event and he dredged through his memory trying to remember the Chapter doctrine on the subject.
Establishing control, he recalled, was the first priority.
...
Establishing rapport was the next stage in dealing with the situation.
Its frankly amazing that Space Marines have ANY protocols for dealing with non combatants other than 'get the fuck out of my way or I'll shoot you'


Page 258
In his experience there had been three categories of interaction. There were enemies, allies and civilians. Enemies were to be slain, allies aided and civilians protected, where possible. By their own testimony, these people were the Unworthy, part of the renegade group. As such they were enemies of the Emperor and it was his duty to eliminate them. The fact that they were of no threat whatsoever weighed against this course of action. Regardless of their loyalties, it seemed dishonourable to slay them in cold blood, especially the infants who, given a proper upbringing by loyal servants of the Emperor could become useful members of the Imperium.
Again the fact that a Space Marine - any space marine - displays this kind of restraint in front of an enemy or even considers there might be some use other than as targets is remarkable. Of course maybe I'm just too cynical bout Space Marines nowadays. I mean if this were an Ultramarines novel I wouldn't be surprised by this, so maybe I'm just inclined to think less charitably when its the Dark Angels.


Page 260-262
Ignoring this hint at heretical resurrectionist belief...
...
There were hooks hanging from the ceiling and on the hooks were carcasses, some intact, others dismembered.
Headless human corpses.
...
"The Unworthy are reborn through us, master..."
...
..every instinct in him was urging him to lash out, to destroy this coven of vile cannibals.
Ahh irony and hypocrisy. Where to begin? There's the corpse starch that so many Hive worlds and such rely on (a form of cannibalism) - there are the more extreme versions of the Imperial Cult (and some Space Marine Chapters, for that matter) which practice a form of cannibalism and/or blood worship. Or there's the human sacrifices (like is done for Grey Knight ammo..) I'm pretty sure they have their own 'resurrectionist' beliefs somewhere as well..


PAge 265-266
...that the device was of normal Imperial build, thankful for the gift of Standard Template Construct that meant the unit would work with the systems of his steed.
...
..Annael placed the comm unit on the saddle of the bike, punched in the disarm code for the self-protection mechanism and opened up a protective plate beneath the display of his mount. Pulling free a cable, he plugged the set into the cogitator of the bike. The comm unit crackled into life.
The wonders of STC :D

Page 270
"One hundred thousand bolter kills is a remarkable achievement, brother"
..
When he had gained the marksman’s award at fifty thousand he had thought nothing of it...
...
"Each fallen foe moves me towards the golden skull for a quarter of a million kills"
Gun kill total achievements... lol. Its mentioned he has been a Marine 223 years. Oh and in contrast he's made 'only' 400 or so kills with his knife.


Page 271-273
. Cadael left his bolter where it was and drew his knife, the monomolecular-edged blade shining in the light of the flames.
..
A beam from a lascannon sliced through an ork as it turned towards this new threat, cutting it in half,...
..
...many were the times that a point-blank shot had served him better than fifty centimetres of razor-sharp plasteel.
Half a metre of mono steel for the knife, lascannon slices an ork in half

Page 274
His armour locked at the first moment of impact and the charging alien slammed into him with the same effect as running into a solid wall, its head bouncing from the Space Marine’s midriff.
Power armor locking place to resist collisions as well as wrecoil

PAge 282
...maybe the Overlord had taught them techniques for shielding themselves from psychic attack; one of the Fallen could well know such tricks. Certainly the enemy were masked in some part by their false faith in the Overlord, shielding them from the warp as the pure faith of the Space Marines guarded their minds.
tricks exist to block against psychic attack that do not require innate psychic abilities.. also basic faith (in anything it seems) can provide some measure of protection as long as the faith is genuine.

Page 283
..there had been twenty-eight psykers on Caliban when the Lion had returned from fighting Horus, and of those three were accounted for in the fighting, which left twenty-five psykers of varying skill, power and discipline. The Chapter had found seventeen in the last ten thousand years..
28 old Legion Librarians, eight or so of which are still floating around currently. Interesting thing they point to later, is that all of them became devotees of Chaos.


Page 285
"It is a powerful psyker that can suppress his abilities nearly half a kilometre distant. The tower itself would take immense reserves of psychic energy to shield."
implied limits on Psyker powers defensively


Page 285-286
"Yes, there should be several banks of void shields protecting a star fort such as this. None were activated in defence of the station."
...
"Often when a star fort such as this is moved from system to system, it must be evacuated – it has no Geller fields to protect the populace while in the warp. Specialist teams from the Navigator houses and the scholastica psykana must be brought in to guide the fort through the warp whilst protected by battle psykers. Void shields utilise warp energy to create a defensive barrier, in effect an omni-directional warp portal that displaces incoming matter and energy."
...
"The sensation I felt was not dissimilar to the warp-suppression effect of a Geller field. The Overlord could possibly have used the warp cores of the void shields to create a Geller-type effect."
..
"The Overlord could be preparing to move Port Imperial through the warp."
The nature of void shields described again as miniature warp portals except 'omni-direcitonal' that displace matter and energy into space. This is interesting sa it says a great deal about how defenses work. In that sense the actual mass or energy 'absorbed' may not matter much - or if it does matter it may not matter as much as duration, depending on how mass/energy play with the opening of warp rifts (do bigger attacks draw more energy from creating larger portals, or do they create a portal of arbitrary size that sucks up all mass/energy up to a certain threshold?) Or does the portal only stay open as long as there is power to maintain it independent of the mass/energy of the attack(s) it absorbs? It may even be both - the shields can absorb large volumes of mass/energy over a brief period of time, or small/steady amounts over a longer period of time. It may not even scale linearly, but its interesting to consider given the implications it has for many purproted 'inconsistencies' with 40K capabilities such as 'solar flares' and shit from Battlefleet gothic.
The other interesting point of relevance is that void shields hav eminiature warp cores. This makes you wonder if planetary surfaces use these kinds of voids or not (implied so by Imperial armor as context means titan voids.) but its equally true many sources describe voids which may not subscribe to this interpretation, so we shouldn't assume ALL voids work this way (or it may be that voids vary in how they function or what they may encompass. For all we know some voids use multiple defensive measures to block attacks, including warp portals, absorption/deflection forcefield mechanisms, etc.)
We also learn that these particular class of voids can also double as gellar fields, suggesting gellar fields are a warp phenomena of a sort as well. Or at leats void shields use the same type of warp cores that can be sued to make gellar fields, which is interesting from a 'redundancy' standpiont. We also learn that psykers can be used as shielding in place of gellar fields.



Page 290-291
"Why would the warrior elite live in the same squalor as the Unworthy?"
..
"Are the trappings of status your goal when you strive for the Chapter?"
"Of course not, brother-sergeant."
...
"We are different. We are bonded together by brotherhood and service to the Emperor. Honour is the reward of dutiful service. You cannot compare this rabble with the Chapter, surely?"
“Many different people fight for many different reasons.”
...
“ Although our foes exhibit barbaric practices and have become piratical parasites it is an error to assume that they desire only physical reward. The names themselves, the Unworthy and the Divine, indicate that this particular nest of pirates has a spiritual core, however flawed it may be.’”
...
“The corrupt nature of our foes is evident, why do you seek to understand their motives further?”
“Idle curiosity, brother-sergeant.”
“No curiosity is idle,” Amanael said..
...
“One needs to know only enough about the foe to defeat them. Excessive interest in external cultures breeds doubt, and doubt brings dereliction of duty.”
Another example of that peculiar ‘be philosohpical, but only in particular ways and up to a point where you don’t think about things you’re not supposed to” doublethink mentality of the Dark Angels. Its really a great example how they’re caught up and between questioning and understanding and secrecy and how it creates this conflict of things. There’s even the differences between fifth company and the Ravenwing that leads to tension and conflict shortly.


Page 298-300
He realised that the harnesses were modified cargo-haulage suits, used by labourers for loading and unloading stores. The helms were also from the station’s original personnel, intended for use outside the star fort to prevent blindness from star glare.
..
The enemy fighter wore a padded jerkin beneath his armoured exoskeleton, revealing heavily muscled arms...
...
Arms powered by the exoskeleton wrapped around the Space Marine in a crushing bear hug, lighting up Telemenus’s visual display with a flurry of pressure warning icons.
Pirates using modified cargo exoskeletons as impromptu (And crude) powered armor, with space helmets. Seems effective as a strength enhancer but that’s about it.


Page 300
Boosting as much power as possible to the muscle bundles of his armour, Telemenus seized hold of the Divine and lifted. His vision faded as energy was shunted from his autosenses, giving him just enough strength to rip the man’s left arm away, flesh and exoskeleton together.
Again power armor strength is variable, depending on power feed.


Page 306
The bolt sped along the corridor as the power axe crackled, flares of light erupting from the blade as it carved into the skull of Nemeon.
Nemeon and the Divine went down at the same time; the former with half his head missing and the latter with heart and lungs blown out through splayed ribcage.
Bolt round blowing out a chest.

PAge 319
”The stench of the Infernal Powers fills this place. The cannibalism, the unnatural hardiness and malady of the Divine, the fanaticism and craving for oblivion point to the basest of corruption.”
Common qualities of Chaos cultists, it seems. Which makes them more dangerous than normal humans both for the toughnessa nd the suicidal fanaticism/madness.

Page 322-323
..the blade sliding into the metal of the decking as its powerfield disrupted the molecules of plasteel.
...
.. he drew the Raven Sword across the throat of the Divine, blood hissing and boiling as it spat along the powered blade.
Powerfield ‘disrupts’ molecules, although whether it does so by the applicaiton of thermal energy directly, ro if thats just a side effect/secondary damage mechanism of the disruption, we aren’t sure.


Page 326-327
On the screen, the three blots of blue became brighter sparks for a moment, becoming dozens of tiny red stars as the torpedoes broke into their final approach warheads.
..
All eyes returned to the screen as the cyclotronic warheads hit their target. Blossoms of bright light grew across the towers and superstructure of Port Imperial, becoming raging spheres of energy. Lightning flashed from the expanding clouds of plasma and radiation, particles spewing in long streams like rivulets of burning ice as the ravening energies chewed through adamantium and ferrocrete, plasteel and armourglas. Like all-devouring whirlwinds, the cyclotronic tempests burrowed into the station’s interior, the mass of the star fort fuelling the reaction, its own size speeding its demise.
..
Supports melted and walkways buckled, foundations cracked and linking bridges collapsed. Its heart melted through by the warheads, Port Imperial fell in upon itself.
A second star shone at its heart as the plasma reactor overloaded, releasing the energy of a sun. The white heat devoured all that remained, turning everything into a slowly expanding cloud of gas and dust, the debris swallowed up by the detonation.
Cyclonic torpedoes destroy a base. A second case (the first being Bleeding chalice) of cyclonics used in a space based context. Thesea re of the nucleonic/matter to energy conversion types, which purportedly are amongst the rarest as per Tactica Imperialis (which makes it.. interesting the Dark Angels use them so readily here.) Especially given these torps are also submunitions (dozens of cyclonic warheads being used.) Effects are also quite obviously thermal, so while its 'feeding' the reaction on the stations own mass (rathr than its own mass doing the damage) its still producing energy (and thus after a fashion brute force effects.
Oh and the station's reactor releases 'the energy of a sun' and 'creates a second star'. Yet another big of interpretation hinting at the magnitude of energy produced which is bound to antagonize certain people who hate the notion of taking such things literally MUAHAHAHAHA :p


Page 328
”A light cruiser of some kind, or possibly a heavy frigate depending upon how you wish to make the distinction,” said Malcifer. “Torpedoes and lance batteries.”
Light cruisers and heavy frigates seem to be of similar tonnage/size and armament, or at least close enough to overlap with some variation.


Page 329
“The system is on our star charts, about fifty light years from our current position. Not so far to move Port Imperial without Navigators. One inhabited world, Thyestes Five. Last Administratum census was a little more than seven hundred years ago. Population between three and three-and-a-half billion. Self-sustaining agriculture and industry, widespread settlement across two main landmasses. Normal tithes rate, met more or less on target for previous seventeen hundred years. Imperium-standard technology level, Planetary defence force called the Thyestes Provosts. Three Imperial Guard regiments raised there about fifteen hundred years ago, no longer active. Last threat, ork attacks nearly two thousand years ago.”
..
“No priority supplies to strategic worlds?” asked Seraphiel.
“None. Utterly unremarkable, as I said.”
“Almost a backwater, one might say,”
This is interesting for the fact they consider the world of that population and self sufficiency to be.. unremarkable. A backwater even. This tends to tell us that a world’s importance is not dictated by population size or technology/industiral level per se, or even its tithe contributions. Importance, we might infer, is dictated by its importance/contributions to worlds that ARE considered vital, or whose roles/positions contribute materially to the larger imperium in some way - major mining or agri nodes for important hive and forge worlds, or major trading hubs, or sector/subsector capitals, or major military (Guard or NavY) installations or the like.
Also note the sheer length of time between attacks, a distinct reply to the whole GALAXY AT WAR thing. :P
Also it is 50 LY away. This is interesting for the fact they don’t consider it too far for a non-navigator vessel to pilot its way through the warp, but it doesn’t play much role in the novel, period (which is interestng for the implied range of non-Navigator ‘chartist’ vessels of course.) They do make mention that such a backwater makes an ideal target because it could be years (or centuries) before anyone notices something amiss, and a century or two more before a response is mounted.


Page 330
”Tharsis is only twenty-three light years from Thyestes”
Tharsis and Tyestes are close. If we knew how long to travel from there to Port Imperial (or one of those two) we might derive some warp numbers. :P

PAge 331
”We thought him heretic, but perhaps he spoke a truth we did not see at the time. He said that the Fallen had been able to mislead him because the hunt consumed his thoughts, making him predictable. That is a warning we must heed now.”
Again I note this passage because it echoes what I said before. The events of Angels of Darkness seem to be in danger of being repeated here, and it remains true that the Dark Angels obsession with the Fallen can blind them and make them predictable, if they are not careful, much as it blinded Boreas. It remains to be seen if they will learn a lesson from it, or fall prey to their own obesssion and secretiveness and make the mistakes he did.


PAge 353
"The Imperial Commander has access to sophisticated orbital stations, which have not furnished any usable information regarding the rebels’ lines of supply, strategy or disposition."
Use of orbital surveillance to collect info on enemies. Or at least it would if they could find them.

Page 356-359
Using the Imperial Commander felt dishonourable. Whatever plan he concocted to deliver Drazinoff to the rebels, he could not do so with the compliance of the Imperial Commander. That would mean lying, and quite possibly collaborating with the rebels in some fashion.
..
...Sammael was beholden to his oaths as Master of the Ravenwing to use any and all means to bring his prey to account. His predecessors had sacrificed worlds to that cause, was he any less of a Dark Angel?
...
Yet Sammael was able to justify his decision all too easily when he considered the honour of the Chapter was at stake. Compared to the loss of a world, the loss of the Dark Angels’ reputation was a tragedy that would endanger many more billions of lives in the longer term.
Are you following this chain of logic? Sound at all like Boreas in Angels of Darkness again? I mean its good Sammael feels guilty about using his purported allies, or about throwing the planet into chaos, but ultimately he's putting His chapter's 'honour' on a higher pedastal than the lives and value of the humanity of one of the Emperor's planets in order to satisfy his personal agenda. Its not EASY to do it, and he's not doing it willingly, and there is the fact he's putting duty before personal honour and yet... its still that 'Chapter more important than humans' shit that I so detest of Space Marine fiction, because its the other way around. And justifying it by saying 'well thats whate veryone else before me has done, so I have to do it too' when it means destroying whole planets just to salvage your own reputation is pretty fucking stupid. I will grant that there is a risk that if the truth got out the Dark Angels would be condemned, especially for keeping the secret for Millenia, but its not guaranteed, and they would hardly be the first chapter who has come into conflict with the Adeptus Terra in one way or another - hell the Space wolves do it all the time.


Page 362
...Imperial Commander Drazinoff’s personal carrier. Its basic chassis was the same as the Chimera transports used by the Imperial Guard and many planetary defence forces across the Imperium. This particular variant of the ubiquitous design boasted thicker armour plates fixed atop the roof where normally a firing hatch was located. A remote-operated missile launcher dominated the front of the vehicle, next to the rotating dish of an enhanced communications array.
A rather interesting chimera variant, both for its command role, enhanced armor, and the missile launcher up front (remote operated no less.) Whats more this is a PDF vehicle not a guard one. Its even more hilarious for the implication that Chimeras are pretty commonly used in the PDF (although perhaps not numerous enough for widespread use.)


PAge 363
..autosenses on thermal with full magnification.
Thermal viewing mode AND magnification for Astartes autosenses!


PAge 364-365
Telemenus heard the crack of a large gun firing a moment before Squad Atleus’s Rhino was hit by a shell. The front of the transport erupted outwards, flinging the driver and armoured plates across the highway.
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He saw something bulky and dark about two hundred metres ahead. There was a flash, just as he opened his mouth to give warning.
"Enemy veh–"
The shell hit the right flank of the Rhino, smashing into the tracks. The force of the blast lifted up the vehicle and Telemenus felt himself about to topple from the cupola as the Rhino flipped over. He pushed himself inside and slammed the hatch shut half a second before the transport crashed down onto its roof.
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"Some kind of vehicle with a battle cannon"
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"How could the rebels get a damned tank up there?"
Defilers actually but still relevant. Battle cannon shells knocking around Predators and Rhinos. One rhino flipped, one evidently blown apart. The odd thing is, given the range, the velocity is implied to be subsonic, so the effect may be from explosion of some kind rather than impact. Neverhteless. the Rhino survives a blast that flips it on its back, which is impressive no matter how you look at it (even if its hard to calc.) But if its a shaped charge or kineitc impact, its akin to the recoil of a demolisher shell, or the impact of a shell or rocket on a Leman Russ (as in Gunheads, Dawn of War, First and Only, or Honour Guard.) physically moving it without penetrating.


Page 366
..he saw where the third shell had been aimed. Smoke billowed from the rear grating of Castigator, thick and oily from the burning engine.
Predator tank takes one battle cannon hit.

Page 367
"Traitor legionaires approaching from the north, three hundred metres. More walkers and battle tanks" said Atleus. His squad were firing along the canyon at targets out of Telemenus’s line of sight.
Implied engagement range of 300 m.


Page 368
As it adjusted its stance, the machine’s wide-muzzled cannon swung towards the Predator and the Space Marines standing not far behind the tank. Castigator’s main gunner fired first as Telemenus and the others broke away from the battle tank, but the shot was too hasty, carving a gouge into the chalk below the abominable walker. The enemy walker returned fire, noxious smoke billowing from its gun as it sent a shell crashing into the side of the Predator. The battle tank skidded sideways, shedding track links across the highways as road wheels fell from their mountings and clanged onto the pitted ferrocrete.
Predator takes a battle cannon hit, which definitely seems to imply a physical impactor, knocking the tank sideways at an unknown velocity or distance (aside from the fact its noticably moved, suggesting a metre or two at least.) The fact that the terrain is generally level (they're inside a canyon) and the tank has lost tracks and took a hit from above (and to the side) tends to suggest the force of the impact moved it. AT the very leats we're talking many times the momentum of a real life tank round (Predators being some 40 tons or so) which echoes feats like Gunheads and Honour guard.


Page 369
The Predator’s lascannons swivelled as they adjusted for their new position and let forth twin stabs of energy. The blasts sheared through one of the walker’s legs, melting through the metal in a flash. A mixture of oil and blood spilled from the damage, splashing down the white slope in a slick of black and scarlet.
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Recovering from losing its rear leg..
I dont know exactly how big a Defiler is but guessing roughly from diagrams and artwork, its maybe a metre or two per leg wide Assuming it slices a 5-10 cm wide (arm thick roughly) chunk out of the defiler, iron composition 10-50% empty space you get between 40-1574 kg melted. Which comes out to ~48 MJ and 1.9 GJ for two lascannon beams acting as a heat ray.

Page 374
..Telemenus fired, putting a round through the cracked eye lens of the Space Marine. The Death Guard staggered back, half his helmet missing. Remarkably, the traitor did not fall, but turned towards Telemenus, bolt gun raised. Through the targeter magnification Telemenus could see that half the Space Marine’s head was missing, one eye popped from the socket by the bolt detonation, the fleshy orb dangling on the warrior’s exposed cheek. Even for a Space Marine the warrior’s survival was unnatural.
Bolt round paritally headsplodes Death Guard, he survives.


Page 377-378
It was the third time since the Death Guard ambush that storms had forced his aircraft to abort their sensor tracking. Ten kilometres above the ground, far from the eyes and scanners of the enemy, the aircraft had proved invaluable in keeping the Death Guard force under scrutiny; for six days and twelve hundred kilometres north and east across the tundra of Thyestes V.
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The ride had already been an arduous one, keeping within striking distance of the Death Guard without approaching too closely.
Implied operational range of Death Guard AND Ravnewing vehicles.


Page 378
The Ravenwing had been on the move constantly since the Death Guard ambush, subsisting off their armour systems, occasionally supplemented with high-protein rations.
Life support armour systems.


Page 382
As glorious as Sammael’s life had been, there were too many times when the shadow had called to him. The brothers sacrificed, the worlds left to ruin, the enemies unconquered so that the hunt could continue. It was these times that filled his thoughts, occupied his mind in the silent contemplation of his cell or the long road such as he now followed. It was the decisions made not for glory but necessity that filled his dreams, such as he had, and haunted his waking hours when sleep became impossible.
The words of Boreas were etched in Sammael’s thoughts, like a worm burrowing through rotten wood. He tried to expunge them, tried to leave behind the nagging of their intent, but Sammael could not be free of the truth they held.
What does it mean to be Dark Angels without the Fallen? We have come to define ourselves by them. Take them away and we are left without purpose. We have strayed far from the path, and it is my fervent prayer that you, Grand Masters of the Chapter, the wisest of us, can find the true course again.
Again Sammael is not exactly untroubled by his actions, although he does them because he is compelled by duty and the burden of his job and the example of past Grand MAsters. Still not a good reason, but he's different from Boreas in this regard, at least.. he didnt have total certainty from the get go. And he has Boreas example to learn from, but the question will be - will he learn from it, and what will he take form that lesson?


PAge 391
The enemy stronghold consisted of a network of fourteen prefabricated units, each no larger than ten metres square, linked together by covered walkways. Snow was banked up against the ferrocrete blockhouses and strings of lanterns hung along the walkways..
enemy 'base' such as it is. Very prefab.


Page 403
Nethor fired as a boulder was turned to glass by the melta blast just behind Telemenus. The missile hit the Death Guard Space Marine in the chest, the shaped warhead breaking open his armoured plastron milliseconds before the charge exploded, cutting the renegade in half.
meltablast 'glasses' a boulder - we dont know if tha tmeans partially or totally melts or how big it is but still... Also a shaped (carge?) warhead penetrating Death Guard armour in 'milliseconds' allowing a second charge to go off and bisect the Death Guard. Given Power armour several inches thick (call it 5-6 cm) and a few milliseconds (call it 2-10) You can get between 500 and 3000 cm of penetration implied of plasteel and ceramite/adamantium or whatever the power armour is made of. It broadly suggests performance for missile launched shape charges equal to or better than modern by that. The tandem charge is also interesting, as blowing apart a torso would imply several tens to several hundred grams of TNT equivalent (possibly omre, given its a Death Guard space marine) unless it just so happens the blast is a wide cutting arc :P
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