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Well I decided to get around to doing this one finally. Right now it will cover Graham McNeill's '-Of Mars' miniseries (2-3 books I can't tell which) Lords of Mars the second one coming out for me not too far off. I imagine it follows on his work in Mechanicum, which showed that McNeill is a great writer when it comes to the AdMech as well as Ultramarines. This series takes it a step further, in which we get a look at a bit of everything in the AdMech: Explorators, Ark Mechanicus, the quest for knowledge, etc. There's a mystery, there's the search for knowledge, and there is inter-Imperial politics, all of which conspire to make it quite an interesting read. The 'explorator' angle gives it something of a Rogue-Trader-esque high-adventure feel really, and the mystery of what they are searching for and why is only one facet that drives the story on. The subplots of all the individual characters and groups involved also fuels the story, and there is of course the Ark Mechanicus itself, the Speranza, an Archeotch supership whose nature is far greater than even the Magos guess at.

Aside from a few oddities with things like plasma (explained later) there's tons to whet one's appetite and draw them on into the story. I almost regret having read this, as I couldn't wait to see the next one (and I bemoan having to wait even longer for the third installment.)

As an aside there are two interesting returning characters, which only serve to bolster the story. The first is Guardsmen Hawke from Storm of Iron - the only survivor of the Hydra Cordatus assault - and the Cadian 71st from the 40K comic 'Fire and Honour' which was written by McNeill. They are (naturally) my favorite characters :P We of course also get Space Marines in the form of the Black Templars too, which is pretty cool because these guys are decently written. No Uriel Ventris, but they're better than Honsou by a mile.

Unlike my previous works I won't be slugging this out all at once. Its a pretty huge update all told so I will probably break it up into chunks. Maybe 4-5, although I may post larger ones if my mood suits me.

Anyhow, here's the first update:


Page 13-14
Great void-born city of metal and stone, marvel of wonders never to be known again. You live in the depths of space, your sheet steel skin cold and unyielding. You are a living thing, a creature whose bones are adamantium, whose molten heart is that of a thousand caged stars. Oil is your sweat and the devotion of a million souls your succour. Creatures of flesh and blood empower you from within. They work the myriad wonders that drive your organs, feed your hunger and hurl you through the trackless wilderness between the stars.
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No grim ship of war are you, no lowly workhorse yoked to dull purpose.
You are Ark Mechanicus.
You are Speranza.
You are the bringer of hope in this hopeless age.
Prelude to the book. Its intersting, if we take it literal, for anumber of ways. Its 'reactor' is implied to be a 'thousand caged stars' - which may have implications of power generation depending on how you chose to interpret it (it could be a thousand reactors, for example, each of some sort of stellar-scale power, although what kind of star is up for debate as always. I expect this to be contested of course...) And an implied crew of a million or so (although the breakdown is not specifid.)
This is the Ark Mechanicus (Battleship scale, from BFG) Speranza, the core of this book. It is interesting becuase this is, by 40K standards, more of an ' upbeat' intro compared to the usual.. there's more emphasis on knowledge and exploration (more 'age of sail high adventure) than there is on superstition and ignorance. The mention of hope is only the icing on the cake, really, but its a nice prelude into the story itself and its atmosphere.



Page 14
That which was once encoded in the very bones of the ancient Men of Gold has been lost, perhaps forever. But perhaps not. Much has been forgotten that will never again be remembered, and the hidden corners of this dying galaxy have secrets left to whisper. Those with eyes to see and the will to search may find scraps of what the titans who shaped the galaxy to their every desire left in the ruins of their doom
This seems to be a throwback reference to much earlier fluff, involving the whole 'Men of Gold/men of Iron/Men of Stone' thing from 3rd edition and subsidariy fluff from that era (Ancient History by Andy Chambers, Dan Abnett's First and Only, etc.) What exactly the 'Men of Gold' were has long been up for conjecture (as well as the Men of Stone/Men of Iron) although robots/AI are the most common accepted definition of the last. Cyborgs (or proto-AdMech) may be a possible candidate for #2 (partly because of the bent towards technology, and partly by hints of being 'less than fully human' and less warp tasty in Ancinet History.) Whether the 'Men of Gold' were humanity itself from the Dark/Golden age of tech or a subset of humanity (some sort of 'enlightened race', heck maybe its the perpetuals!) is up for debate, although this novel's context seems to imply its Golden Age humanity.



Page 15
We plunged from a Golden Age of technology and reason into an Age of Darkness from which there is little hope of escape. Forget the promise of progress, they say. Forget the glories of the past. Cling to what little light remains and be satisfied with its feeble illumination.
The Adeptus Mechanicus rejects that paradigm.
We are crusaders in the darkness, ever seeking out that which will bring back the light of science and understanding. That is at the heart of what we have lost, the capacity to understand and question, the vision to determine what we do not know and seek out answers.
We have become enslaved by dogma, ritual and blind superstitions that place fetters on our ability to even know there are questions to be asked.
I will ask those questions.
I will not be enslaved.
I am Archmagos Lexell Kotov, and I will reclaim what was lost.
Man I'm not even beginning the actual story and I like this book more. Graham McNeill established in Mechanicum that he can write fantastic AdMech characters, and this story promises more of that. It also demonstrates yet again that it is possible to adhere to certain key ideas in 40K without enslaving the story to silly absolutes. We have here the 'quest for knowledge' aspect of the AdMech played up as a hopeful, positive, defiant angle to play down the comparison with how fall humanity has fallen since its height, and the knowledge it has lost. Its the sort of interpretation that still allows for the spirit of 'superstition and ignorance' to exist in some facet, without really beating you over the head with it in a LOL SPACE FEUDALISM' way. I mean fuck, its not like modern humanity has exorcised itself of superstitions, myth, or general irrationality either - its simply a matter of degree (well tht and the fact that magic is real there. :P)
Anyhow, this is what makes McNeill (and Abnett, and ADB, and Sandy Mitchell and other authors) Stand out amongst the Black Library crowd - they're willing to play aroudn with and experiment with the setting, even at the risk of annoying the fandom (which they do sometimes. Thats even more amusing really.)



Page 19
Low-orbit traffic above Joura was lousy with ships jostling for space. Queues of lifter-boats, heavy-duty bulk tenders and system monitors held station in the wash of augur-fogging electromagnetics and engine flare from the heavier vessels as system pilots manoeuvred them into position for refuelling, re-arming and supply.
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The Renard was a ship of respectable tonnage, but compared to the working vessels hauling their monstrously fat bodies between Joura and the fleets competing for docking space like squealing cudbear litters fighting for prime position at the teat, she was little more than an insignificant speck.
Sublight craft of various types carrying cargo to resupply orbiting fleets. The funny thing is that it implies the sublight ships are in fact much larger than the Renard, itself (we learn) 3 km long. So we get even SUBLIGHT craft (military and mercantile) vessels as big or bigger than that. Which is hilarious and awesome in many ways.


Page 19
.. though Magos Pavelka called such labours a waste of her servitors’ resources, not even an adept of the Martian Priesthood would gainsay a rogue trader with a Letter of Marque stamped with Segmentum Pacificus accreditation.
Renard is the ship of a Rogue Trader who operates within the segmentum PAcificus, which seems to be the location of this story. As yet it isn't explicitly stated, but it is sure as hell hinted at in a great many ways.



Page 20
.. Emil Nader, the Renard’s first officer, seated in a contoured inertial-harness to Roboute’s left as he kept them within their assigned approach corridor with deft touches of manoeuvring jets. Pavelka could bring them in with an electromagnetic tether, but Roboute liked to give Emil a bit of freedom in the upper atmosphere.
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All vessels ahead of us are tethered; as we will need to be before we enter the Speranza’s gravity envelope. There will be no error margin.
First officer and starship 'pilot' has an inertial harness. This may reflect the fact that some novels indicate that 40K inertial damping is not 100% perfect, and does not immediately kick in to counter gees (there can be a slight delay, esp with sudden manoeuvres) - which would make the harness sensible. Although not exactly stnadard issue, as plenty of starships we've seen have people walking about decks unrestrained.
Also mention of EM tethers, which seem to be some 40K equivalent of tractor beams or forcefield towing cables. Largely seem designed for guidance, although how they exactly work (do they exert force on the object, or just 'link up' with the ship and help guide it in?) we don't know.



Page 21
...Roboute brought the current shipboard operations up onto the inner surfaces of his retina. A mass of gold-cored cables trailed from the base of his neck to the command throne upon which he sat, feeding him real-time data from the various active bridge stations. Trajectories, approach vectors, fuel consumption and closure speeds scrolled past, together with noospheric identity tags for the hundreds of vessels in orbit.
Everything was looking good, though a number of the engineering systems were running closer to capacity than he’d like. Roboute opened a vox-link to the engineering spaces, almost two kilometres behind him.
The captain (and presumably others of the crew, or at least the command staff) are linked into the ship and have acess to visual (retinally displayed) data, as well as control via those MIUs one assumes.
The bridge is also ~2 km from engineering.
Also hundreds of ships in orbit. Not as huge as the numbers implied by the Ravenor novels, but still impressive since we know those are all warp capable vessels in all probability.



PAge 21-22
"Of course I am," came the voice of Kayrn Sylkwood, the Renard’s enginseer. "I perform six hundred and four system checks every minute."
...
Kayrn Sylkwood was ex-Guard, a veteran enginseer of the Cadian campaigns. She’d been mustered out of the regiment after taking one too many shots to the head on Nemesis Tessera during the last spasm of invasion from the Dreaded Eye.
First off, the 'enginseer' seems to be quite a character. Nominally it seems she's apart of the AdMech, but in alot of ways she doesn't behave like a typical techpriest.. reminding me more of the 'laity' they maintain.. or the enginseer/techpriest from the Cain novel 'Death or Glory', who was similarily unconventional/quirky. Indeed, the context implies she originates form the Guard, but received some 'training' in the mysteries of the Admech - sort of the Guard version of a techmarine. Is this something unique to certain elements of the Cadian military (pacts or something) or what?
Either way its something as fun and refreshing as the techpriest from the Cain novel was, and I approve wholeheartedly. Again McNeill plays with the setting's ideas in a manner that always can be interesting even if I don't always like them.
Also, our enginseer maintains 600+ system checks per minute, which is basically 10 per second,. which givesa n indicatio nfo her multitasking abilities (She's augmented to have reactions of a tenth of a second or so, which is not unheard of in 40K as I've noted before.)



Pgae 22
Despite any slight running concerns about the engines, the Renard was a ship like no other Roboute had known. She was fast, nimble (as far as a three-kilometre vessel could be) and carried enough cargo to make running her profitable on local-system runs. Even the odd sector run wasn’t beyond her capabilities, but Roboute never liked stretching her that far. She hadn’t let him down in the fifteen years he’d captained her, and that kind of respect had to be earned.
Again the size of the Rogue Tradre vessel.. a 3 km ship. Interestingly, it seems to be designed more as a 'chartist' type vessel, making local subsector/sectgor runs more akin to Tobias MAxilia's Essene. That's at least the idea I get :P: Funny enough the hsip is implied to have a navigator, which makes its implied short range rather odd. It SHOULD be capable of larger jumps, anyhow. Maybe it was a loaner?


Page 22
"Promethium tender coming in below and behind us"
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"She’s burning hotter than I’d like, and it’s closing on an elliptical course."
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"How close is she?"
"Two thousand kilometres, but her apogee will put her within fifteen hundred if we don’t course correct."
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"Two thousand, fifteen hundred, what does it matter? If she goes up, all we’ll see is the flash before we’re incinerated. Conserve fuel and stay on course."
Roboute wasn’t worried about the danger of collision – even the closest ships had gulfs of hundreds of kilometres between them – what worried the ship masters of each fleet was the threat of delay to their departure schedules.
Gotta love this. Promethium tender is a risk at 2000 km if she explodes. Atomic rockets notes that a 100-1000 kj at around a microsecond could cause impulsive shock damage to a normal hull (over a microsecond) At 2000 km this translates into a 2-20 gigaton yield (at least) for the explosion. A 3 km ship absorbs 350-3500 GJ at that range. The hilarious thing is... Even if we assume a 30 megaton (by FFG standards) ship and its 100% fuel, the 'tanker' would at least carry around 140-150 MJ of fuel per kg, which makes ti AT LEAST as good as hydrogen. If its more... well you get the idea. Of course as we know Promethium seems to be usable as everything from a chemical reactant to nuclear fuel of some kind so... its a matter of interpretation, as always.
If we play raound with the Essene example (ship able to put up with tens of megawatts per square metre) and say between 20-200 MW, the 'yield' goes up by a factor of 100-1000x easily, meaning at least tens or hundreds of gigajoules per kg, putting it more towards 'nuclear' type fuels (nuclear reactions, nuclear isomers, or something similar.)
Also hints of the distances separating ships typically.. hundreds or thousands of km isn't a concern. It does suggest fractions of lightspeed (at least close to a planet) aren't orders of the day. Probably more like single/double digit km/s.



Page 22
Even Roboute had to admit to being mightily impressed with this ship. He’d flown the length and breadth of more than one sector, but he had yet to see anything to match this for sheer scale and grandeur.
Well our Rogue Trader buddy at leats seems to be multi-sector, so his ship does have more range than your typical chartist/non Navigator vessel it implies. Also the Speranza, the Ark Mechanicus vessel of the book, is the biggest thing he's seen. Granted one Rogue Trader's view is hardly comprehensive, but it still suggests the fuckuge shisp we get from the HH era (phalanx scale, or the furious abyss, or the 60+ km mass conveyors) are comparatively rare. and probably mostly in AdMech or Inquisitor hands :P



Page 24
Hundreds of fleet tenders were making daily trips back and forth from the loading platforms, fat and groaning with weapons, ammo, food, fuel, spare uniforms, engine parts, machine parts, surgical supplies, millions of gallons of refined fluids for lubrication, drinking, anointing and who knew what else. It was hard, dangerous work, but it was work, and no man of Joura could afford to pass up a steady, reliable credit-stream.
hundreds of ships makign daily transits between either lwo orbit or ground or the fleets in high orbit, and the scale of the transits. Also mention of 'credit streams' indicating monetary stuffages.




Page 24
With a gene-bulked and partially augmented ogryn nearby, it was a poor fight to pick. Abrehem had seen the creature take off a man’s head with the merest twist of its wrist...
...
The filters in his eyes read the scrubbed ident-codes on the augmetics applied to the ogryn’s arms and cranium.
Backstreet, fifth-gen knock-offs. Crude and cheap, but effective.
Gene bulked ogryn (genetic engineering? implants) and augmetics. One of tha spects of this novel is that augmetic quality is rated by 'generation' or degree. Abrehem we learn has 'tertiary', which I gather is third generation, and pretty good quality. Fifth generation here, by contrast, is low grade stuff (probably akin to the stuff you might see in the Guard, or underhives, or such.)



Page 26
The man slapped Ismael’s hand away and before anyone could stop him, he had a knife at the overseer’s throat. It glinted dully in the low light. Abrehem scanned the serial number on the blade: 250371, Guard-issue, carbon steel and a killing edge that could cut deeper than a fusion-weld in the right hands.
Guard issue knife. We dont know if its a regular edge or monomol, but even as hyperbole it would suggest the knife is exceedingly sharp. This incidentally is Hawke from 'Storm of Iron' a more welcome and memorable character insert than Hawke ever was. Its impleid this novel takes place sometime around the 13th Black Crusade, perhaps before.. its not very clear here however.



Page 27
... metal shutter doors throughout the bar crashed open and a chorus of vox-amplified voices blared inside. Sodium-tinged light flooded through the doors and from his vantage point on the floor, Abrehem saw strobing spotlights mounted on the backs of giant vehicles. Black-armoured figures poured into the bar, clubbing men to the ground with vicious blows from shock mauls and the butts of automatic shotguns. Metal-skinned hounds on chain-leashes barked with augmetic anger, their polished steel fangs bared.
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.. the sight of the impressment teams as they dragged men out to the rumbling confinement vehicles.
Seems to be dedicated to naval service, meaning they probably are Armsman or naval crews of some kind, despite seeming more akin to Arbites (including the vehicles.) It may be they are part of the navy, or the ymay be a cooperative venture between the Arbites (or local enforcers) and the navy to acquire crews for starships. They're well equipped in either case - carapace, automatic shotguns, and cyber-mastiffs. Helmets are full face with vox amplifiers.



Page 27
Concussion sirens brayed and blinding light strobed through the bar, all designed to stun and disorientate. Abrehem’s ocular cutoffs screened him from the worst of the light, but the horns were still deafening. Men encased in black leather and gleaming carapace armour with bronze, faceless helmets swept through the bar like soldiers clearing a room. Abrehem saw Ismael shot in the back by a soft round and slammed into a metal wall with the force of the impact.
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..a flurry of soft rounds battered the container wall next to his head. From the deformation of the sheet steel, Abrehem didn’t reckon those ‘soft’ rounds were particularly soft.
40K version of 'less than lethal', which is still quite lethal given the denting of even thin metal. Also the carapace armour again. Note that the flashbang like visual (but not the audio) is dampened by Abrehem's 3rd gen augmetics.



PAge 28
Mesh-gauntleted hands hauled him upright ..
Mesh AND carapace implied. That's protection.



Page 28
His legs were still weak, but he was able to stand as a clicking bio-optic was shone in his eyes and overloaded his filters.
"Exosomatic augmetics," said a voice, surprise evident even muffled by a vox-grille.
"Tertiary grade," said another. "We can pull a full bio-ident and service history off them."
"Got it. Loader-technician Abrehem Locke, assigned to Lifter Rig Savickas."
"A lifter-tech with tertiary grade augmetics? Got to be black market."
"Or stolen."
"They’re not stolen," gasped Abrehem as his filters recalibrated. Three men in glossy black armour stood before him. Two held him upright. Another consulted a data-slate. "They were my father’s."
"He was bonded?"
"exosomatic augmetics" near as I can tell from web searches, refers to sensory organs or stuff to otherwise pick up external stimuli (the skin, the senses, etc.) and 'bonded' means bound to AdMech service, at least in this context it would seem. We also learn more about the quality and 'generation'; of augmetics and their origin. Third generation and above are rare (and probably stolen) amongst 'common' workers - you need connections or status (as in ties to the AdMech, or perhaps workign for aristocracy) to get them. They can be (at least via the AdMech) inherited, though, and it seems they can be retained even in other service. Gotta love inheritance laws in the Imperium. MAybe the Augmetics are hard to recalibrate or reuse at that quality (or the kinds he has, at least.)
We also learn that Gen-3 augmetics are perhps some of the most ready form of id available, and that data can be easily retrieved via dataslate. Whether downloaded remotely, or carried within the slate itself (which must mean millions or even billions of names and data files) we don't know, but its impressive either way.



Page 29
"We’ve been collared and we’re on our way to the bowels of a starship to shovel fuel, haul ammunition crates or some other shitty detail until we’re dead or crippled."
McNeill like Abnett keeps to 40K naval traditions in some ways, in this case shovelling fuel :P Like I said, playing around with the setting without totally remaining fixated on silly and boring absolutes is the best way to handle a universe like 40K, and McNeill is well aware of that (even if some fans aren't.)



Page 31
A pair of intricate four-dimensional maps of the southern reaches of Segmentum Pacificus hung suspended above the hololith projector. The Renard’s crew quarters did not possess such technology, so Magos Cartographae Vitali Tychon had brought one from his observatory on Quatria.
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..amid the shimmering representation of the southern stars, a blighted, ugly wound burned at the edge of known space like a raw lasburn.
The Halo Scar, a benighted region of hostile space that swallowed ships and defeated every attempt to penetrate its void-dark emptiness.
Destination of the current Explorator fleet. Again it implies they're in Segmentum Pacificus, but its not flat out stated, so there's room to interpret. The Halo Scar is in the southern part of Segmentum PAcificus, which is supposedly close to where they are.
Also portable hololith projectors.



Page 31
Noospheric tags flickered and died like sparks as Tychon’s multiple eyes scrolled through a hundred star systems a second.
Processing speed of system data by Magos via noospherics. There is LOTS of noospherics in this novel. And haptics. and all that fun stuff.



Page 32
He knew every speck of light and every hazed nebula on the first map, for he had compiled it himself, a little over five centuries ago.
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Yet to Tychon the second map might as well have represented the mutant wolf stars that leered in the tortured space around the Maelstrom. The second map’s structure was an agglomeration of thousands upon thousands of compiled celestial measurements from all across the segmentum, crude by comparison to the subtleties of his own measurements, but sufficiently accurate to cause him concern.
Clicking mechanical fingers, ten on each hand, spun the globe of stars and systems, zooming in with haptic familiarity. Tychon read the various wavelength spectra, pulse intervals and radiation outputs of stars that had aged hundreds of thousands of years, in celestial terms, overnight.
Our character here is a AdMech, but a astronomer of sorts. galactic cartography. and the Halo Scar is an oddity in that the region is fucked up for some reason, with stars 'burning' through hundreds of thousands of years of life in mere centuries (500 to be exact.)
Also 10 haptic mechanical fingers on each hand for manipulating data, which may help expalin the enhanced informational capabilities. It's also interesting that he has collated (acquired) and is analyzing a segmentum's worth of data - thousands (more likely hundreds of thousands or more) stars being analyzed and recorded.




Page 32
Though his vocal chords had long since atrophied, Linya had insisted he replace them with vat-grown replacements.
Vat grown organs again. Cloning exists in some form, to limited degrees, at least of bodies (for servitors and the like) and replacement parts (in som cases.) although full out replicae is another matter (as JAmes Swallow's stuff implies, although 'Red and Black' indicates that in recent years this may have changed somewhat.)



Page 33
A great deal of Linya’s internal biological architecture had been upgraded over the years, but she stubbornly clung to her original human form and the archaic ways of her forebears.
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Linya’s refusal to follow convention was a source of irritation to her fellow tech-priests, and a source of great pleasure to Vitali.
Both Linya and Vitali Tychon are characters who again echo the Mechanicus sentiment McNeill built up in Mechanicum and continues here, as well as his willingmess to play around with the setting (yet again. You coudl do a drinking game to my mentioning this.) I already like them for sheer quirkiness factor and the fact they blatantly stand out amongst the more conservative AdMech withotu being mad scientist Radical lunatics. It shows the wide diversity of thought (and politicking) that rules the AdMech the same way it rules the Imperium, and that variability is both their greatest weakness and the source of their strentgh (again a factor true of much of the Imperium.)



Page 33
"Yes, stellar geography is an inconstant thing, but the changes you and I have both seen should have taken hundreds of thousands of years at least, not a few centuries."
Again the Halo scar represents the same sort of accelerated stellar acvitivty mentione before.. orders of magnitude faster than it should be.



Page 34
"The archmagos himself requested my presence."
"Over the objections of the Martian Conclave."
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He didn’t know why Lexell Kotov had exercised his precious veto, for the archmagos was not known as an adept given to gestures of emotional indulgence.
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"Perhaps the loss of his forge world fiefs has granted Kotov a measure of humility"
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"His forge worlds were wiped out and even you must have heard the rumours about the petitions being made to the Fabricator General calling for Kotov’s Martian holdings to be seized. He knows he can’t get any of the more powerful magi to support him, and he needs a great success to re-establish his power base on Mars. Leading this expedition in search of Telok’s fleet is Kotov’s last chance to salvage his reputation. It’s his only hope of staving off the threats to his remaining forges."
More on AdMech politics and a bit of background for the story. Its basically a 'high adventure/expeditionary' thing, more akin to a rogue trader than a conventional techpriest. Of course, Explorators are NOT conventional, but its nice to know that poltiical power and resources matter even to the 'logical' admech.
Archmagos seem to be one of the high-tier players in the Imperium's (and AdMech's) politics, implying they operate across whole segmentae and on Mars (and perhaps Terra) itself. And capable of wielding considerable power in the 'conclave' if we go by the mention of veto. Apparnetly despite being political and having a council running things, they are still largely independent of one another and their authority (At least the Archmagos are.)
We also learn that Archmagos (at least) hold the political and material power.. owning territory (whole forge worlds it seems) which are also tied to that power. Depending on how many Archmagos there are, how they are distributed (and whether or not there are unaligned forges) this could result in quite a bit of AdMech owned territory.



Page 35
"How did you know it was me?"
"Stride length, weight to decibel ratio of your footfalls," answered Vitali. "Not to mention that irritating tune you insist on whistling as you walk."
Magos with both great hearing AND a sense of humor. useful traits. Useful detection ability.



Page 35
Roboute watched the Navy battleships cruising serenely at high orbit, little more than bright moving dots that winked and gleamed in the light of the distant sun. More aggressive cruisers wove patrol circuits around bloated mass-conveyors ready to transport the freshly-raised Guard regiments from the world below to the ever-expanding crusade in the Pergamus Sector.
Navy vessels in high orbit, but far enough away (thousands or tens of thousands fo km away) to be little more than dots. Also mass conveyors for hauling the Guard troops, much bigger than cruisers.




Page 35
The scale of the mass-conveyors was extraordinary, vast leviathans whose length and beam were impossible to comprehend as being able to move, let alone traverse the immense gulfs of space between star systems. Yet even they were overwhelmed by the gargantuan scale of the Speranza.
The Ark Mechanicus is vastly bigger than the mass conveyors. Which could mean 10-12 km (or more) by FFG terms, whereas if we go by A Thousand Sons, those could be in excess of 60 km, meaning the Speranza is something akin to the Furious Abyss classes.



PAge 35
"You should see the conjunctions of Ultramar, those are gatherings like no other. Imagine a dozen worlds contributing to a muster. There’s so many ships in orbit that you could strap on an environment suit and stroll around the orbital equator without having to void walk, you’d just step from hull to hull."
Tithe massings in Ultramar are more extensive. Interestingly, this suggests Ultramar unofficially (or officially) has ties or controls more than just 8 systems, many times that number in fact. And also larger numbers of ships amassing in such 'conjunctions' thousands, probably.



Page 36
Roboute had heard of the vessels known as Ark Mechanicus, but had dismissed tales of their continent-sized cityscapes and planetoid bulk as exaggerations, embellished legends or outright lies.
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A passing battleship that Roboute recognised as a Dominator-class vessel sailed below the Speranza, and its length was more than eclipsed by the beam of the Ark Mechanicus.
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Function, not form or glorification, was the guiding light of the ancient Mechanicus shipwrights. The colossal vessel had little symmetry...
More on the Speranza.. its implied to be 'continent' scale and 'planetoid' which echoes back the hugetastic sizes in the HH novels. What 'size' means is up for debate (nevermind how big a continent or planetoid) but it can bew huge mass even as an apprxoimate.
More concrete is the fact that the length of a Dominator class 'battleship' is far shorter than the width of the Speranza. If 'battleship' is figurative and its a dominator class cruiser, we might figure 5 km long, which means that the Dominator's beam is considerably more than 5 km (6 km?) If we figure a 5:1 length to width ratio, that means the ship is maybe at least 25-30 km long, at a minimum. 'Dominator' class battleships were from Space Fleet, and likened to Emperor class battleships. WE might infer, thus, that it coudl be anywhere from 6-10+ km long, at least. That would mean that the Speranza could be 30-50+ km long, and even then that's a minimum. Either way its at least many tens of km long and many kilometres across at least.
Also the Admech favor function over form.



Page 36
The Speranza was all infrastructure and industry, a hive’s worth of manufactories, refineries, crackling power plants and kilometre upon kilometre of laboratories, testing ranges, chemical vats and gene-bays arranged in as efficient a way as the ancient plans for its construction had allowed. Its engines were larger than most starships’ full mass, its individual void generators and Geller arrays large enough to shroud a frigate by themselves.
The Speranza is basically in most respects a mobile forge (world). Labs and reesarch facilities, industry and mining, etc. Engines mass as much as most starships (single double digit megatons by FFG stats) and multi km wide 'individual' void shields.



Page 37
"It’ll take us days to get from the embarkation deck to the bridge."
"Perhaps they have internal teleporters," suggested Roboute.
"Don’t joke,’ said Adara.
"I’m not," said Roboute. "Seriously, I’m not. How else would anyone get about a vessel that size?"
Assuming 2 days, 12 hours walking each day, and a 1/3 to 1/2 metre per second pace, we're talking between 30-40 km for the ship at least, although that does assume straight line (and its unlikely) Still it would suggest (roughly) the ship is tens of km long again.
Also mention of internal teleporters, which is suggestive that such tech is unusual, but not unheard of on starships (Hearkening back to BFG eras of teleporters on starships.)


Page 37
"The Renard’s a classic Triplex-Phall 99 Intrepid class, with Konor-sanctioned upgrades to her shield arrays. "
The Rogue Trader's starship.



PAge 37
..pointing to a number of high-sided craft bathed in the light of the Jouran moon, ungainly vessels shaped like space-faring Capitol Imperialis. They rose into a cavernous hold on one of the rear embarkation blisters, and though each was surely enormous, even they were dwarfed by the Speranza.
Titan transports. Implied to be huge but we can't say how big they are, since the Speranza is hardly the best benchmark (everything around Joura is tiny compared to it.)




Page 37
..massaging the side of his head where the binaric screeching had overloaded a number of his implanted cognitive arrays.
Starship pilot cognitive arrays. Seems that many members of the Rogue Trader's ship crew are augmetically enhanced in one way or another, and cognition enhancement probably helps in piloting and processing data.



Page 38
Roboute was about to answer when the hull shook and a groaning rumble travelled the length of Renard’s structure as they passed into the graviton envelope of the Ark Mechanicus. So colossal was the Speranza’s mass and density that it created a distorted gravity field equivalent to that of an unstable moon. To fly through such volatile space without an electromagnetic tether would be highly dangerous, though that hadn’t stopped Emil from wanting to try.
Roboute watched the cavernous hold of the Speranza growing wider with every passing second as they juddered through the graviton interference. His heart rate was increasing with every kilometre they travelled, pulled in like struggling prey caught on a lure.
Honestly, while the ship is huge.. I'm not sure its huge enough to generate a natural gratiy field that mucks about with starships. Likely its an indicator of the size/power of the grav plates of the ship (Which we know can extend some distance from the ship)
Also mention of EM tethers again.




Page 41
Shipped with unseemly haste from one hard metal box to another, fed syrupy sugar-rich nutrient paste and forcibly injected with anti-ague shots, their lives had become long stretches of frustration followed by sharp bouts of terrifying activity.
Each collared individual was branded with a sub-dermal fealty identifier, which, according to the booming pronouncements that brayed regularly from the vox-grilles high on the containment facility’s steel walls, marked them as indentured bondsmen of Archmagos Lexell Kotov, impressed to serve aboard the Speranza until such time as their debt to the Imperium was repaid.
"That means never," reflected Hawke sourly when Abrehem asked what that meant.
Th bonded servants are treated/fed better compared to other novels (the nutrient paste has flavour for one thing, and they get shots for another. Contrast this with Relentless and its 'drugged breadbowl porridge') also subdermal implants for owneship. Indentured servitude seems to be teh accepted portrayal of slavery in the Imperium - whislt release is certainly possible (once debt is paid) it is vague/manipulated enough to ensure virtual servitude, somethign that has been historically exploited throughout history in many ways.





Page 43
Eventually they’d been loaded into the berth of a rumbling craft, and noospheric tags drifting up through the indentured men’s containers like coloured smoke told Abrehem they were aboard a sub-orbital trans-lifter designated Joura XV/UM33. Bulk carriers designed to go up and down on a fixed path, such craft were monstrously inefficient to run and prone to numerous delays if the pilot missed his narrow approach window.
The third-gen augmetics again can read the noosphere, which is quite useful here.
Also sub orbital lifters. I imgine the 'fixed path' and 'approach windows' reflect the lower end tier ( a more 'hard sci fi') type of starship - chem engines, importance of orbital mechanics and limited delta-vee, etc. Probably not torch ships, in other words. I actually like that really, because it blends alot of 'styles' of fiction and applies them in interesting ways, as well as maintaining that 'variable tech base' theme of 40K.



Page 43
Leaning in, Abrehem tapped his cheek just below his eye and pulled the skin down a fraction, exposing the steel rim of his augmetic eye.
The tertiary augmetics mentioned before are apparently VERY subtle ones, implanted benath the surface and only visible if deliberatley shown.



Page 45
Awaiting them at the base of the crew ramp was a detachment of dangerous looking men in vitreous black armour with heavy-gauge rifles held across their broad chests. Coiling power lines linked the tesla-chambers of their weapons with heavy backpacks that thrummed with electrical power, and each warrior’s face was an impassive mix of square jaws, uncaring eyes and plastek implants feeding them tactical information. Each breastplate was machine-stamped with the image of a skull and lightning bolt. A clan emblem or guild symbol?
..
He marched towards the magos, and his practised eye caught the skitarii warriors tensing, their targeting augmetics following his every movement.
Skitarii. Not sure if they just have EM/shock guns, or if its some weird death ray hellgun weapon. Also note the face mounted targeting augmetics.



Page 45
A number of gene-dwarfed lackeys swathed in vulcanised rubber smocks and red-tinted goggles attended to the pulsing tubes that distributed the fluid around his system.
The opposite of gene-bulking. Basically the AdMech can genetically manipulate the sizes/heights of living beings to suit its purposes. Whether this is just with people it grows or it can be done to anyone we dont know, but the ogryn suggests at least the latter.



Page 45
"Situational update: Archmagos Kotov was detained by important fleet matters pertaining to our imminent break from high anchor"
Which seems likely to suggest high anchor and high orbit are the same thing, thus 'anchor' refers to orbit (or rather position at a particular orbit)



Page 48
They’d all heard the stories of the mortal footsoldiers of the Adeptus Mechanicus, former Guardsmen enhanced with all manner of implants, both physical and mental, to render them into remorseless killers and zealous protectors of the holy artefacts of their tech-priest masters. Little better than feral wildmen, they were said to decorate their armour with the skin of those they had slain and collect trophy racks of enemy warriors’ skulls.
..
They looked like pitiless, highly disciplined warriors against whom only a Space Marine might hope to prevail. Arranged in ordered ranks like robots, there was very little of these warriors that could be described as feral.
More on Skitarii origins. These are less feral, and originate from the Guard (only with more enhancements.) Implied to be only topped by Space Marines.





PAge 49
"Every one of you is now bonded to the Priesthood of Mars and your service will allow the great machines of this vessel to function. By your exertions will the great engines burn hotter than stars. By your blood will the ship’s wheels and gears be greased. By the strength in your bones will the mighty pistons empower its great heart and its fists of light. Your lives now serve the Omnissiah."
"As far as inspiring speeches go, I’ve heard better," said Hawke...
A little (amusing) speech and response, from Hawke. Also we learn that the Speranza's engines burn 'hotter than stars', suggesting a temp of millions of degrees.



Page 50
Augmented with mechanical prosthetics, muscle enhancers and numerous weapon implants, the warrior was as hulking as the Space Marines were said to be. He carried a long polearm, its top surmounted by a serrated blade and its base fitted with a clawed energy pod the purpose of which eluded Abrehem, but which was no doubt intended to cause harm.
..
This was no skitarii chieftain, this was a tech-priest, but one unlike any Abrehem had seen before.
..
Abrehem recognised high-end implants, sophisticated targeting mechanisms, threat analysers and combat vector-metrics. He’d only ever heard of quality like that on high-ranking Mechanicus adepts.
The man’s head twitched in Abrehem’s direction, no doubt reading the passive emanations of his own augmetics.
..
.. the warrior-magos leaned down over Hawke, easily a metre taller than him. His lip curled in a sneer as he read his biometric data from the fealty brand.
..
"I am Dahan, Secutor of the Skitarii Guilds aboard the Speranza."
Secutor onboard ship and its implied capabilities and height. Metre taller than Hawke, too, suggesting he's taller than many marines at that.



Page 50
"I destroy troublemakers like you without effort, and I have a thousand men who would happily do it for me.
Implying there are maybe a Thousand Skitarii troops on board. Which seems rather small, or this may just be the Secutor's own contingent.



Page 53
..Captain Blayne Hawkins watched the loading operations of the 71st Cadian (detached formation) with exasperation. His soldiers had transferred from warzone to warzone often enough that the movement of an entire regiment was something the support corps could usually manage with a degree of finesse. Moving ten companies should have been child’s play.
..
Nearly a hundred armoured vehicles were snarled in the embarkation deck,..
The Cadian 71st, a Cadian regiment depicted in the 40K comic 'Fire and Honour' and written by Graham McNeill (with events in the novel alluded to here.) Seems to be an armoured formation but its nature and composition is still pretty vague, but it has ten companies, which suggests a couple thousand men possibly. Plus 100 vehicles of unknown type (so far.)




Page 54
He was used to the scale of Navy bulk handlers, but the Speranza was many times greater than any vessel he or his men had berthed in.
Size of the Speranza again.



Page 54
This ship was old, older than the ships of the Navy, which had already sailed for thousands of years. Colonel Anders had hinted that the vessel’s keel had been laid down before the ancient crusade to reunite the fragmented worlds of Men, but where he’d learned that particular nugget, he hadn’t elaborated.
Meaning its probably DAoT grade. Older is better.



Page 54-55
Hawkins rose to his full height as Rae appeared from behind an idling Chimera,...
...
Hawkins swore, carefully negotiating the narrow paths between trapped Leman Russ battle tanks, idling Salamanders and the regiment’s signature Hellhound tanks.
..
He ducked under the sponson mount of Kasr’s Fist, a Leman Russ Destroyer with numerous kill markings etched into its pockmarked hull. Still painted in the urban camouflage of Baktar III’s ruined industrial wastelands, its rightmost lascannon was wedged tightly against the hull of Creed’s Pride and a number of the rivets holding it in place had buckled against the pressure.
Hints of the Cadian 71st composition. Hellhounds, Russes of various types (including a vague 'destroyer' type, with sponsons) Salamanders, and Chimeras.
Also lascannon sponson and rivets.



Page 55
As a major, Callins was technically Hawkins’s superior, but Cadian fighting ranks often assumed seniority while on active service.
Whether this is unique to Cadians or IG standard we dont know, but it probably is useful.



Page 56
"A Mechanicus vessel has to be loaded in a specific mass-distribution pattern to ensure optimal inertial compensation efficiency."
Inertial compensation. Its probably important in that loaded properly, the stuff inside the ship moves around less, and thus the compensators need to exert less force to keep it in place.



Page 56
"But if you load our heavies on first, it’s going to slow our disembarkation. The heavies go in last so the big guns come out first. Basic rule of warfare, that is"
Cadian practice vs AdMech 'efficiency'.



Page 57
"You have my assurance that you will have the full co-operation of every Cadian footslogger, tanker, flame-whip and ditch-digger under my command in all matters."
Which suggests the Cadian 71st Regimental composition is alot more varied and 'combined arms' than typically implied - tank, flamer, and infantry components as well as s upport elements.



Page 57
Hellhounds, Leman Russ, Sentinels and a host of other vehicles roared past on their way to their assigned berths.
Cadian 71st Vehicles.



Page 62
Varda drew the sword, its eternally sharp blade utterly black and etched along its length with filigreed lettering in the curling gothic script of the Imperium. Its blade was long and heavy beyond the means of any mortal soldier to bear, the handle long enough to allow it to be wielded by one or two hands.
Black Sword. Given how heavy chainswrods and other weapons have been implied to be, we're probably talking tens of kilograms easily for the sword.



Page 62
The mag-lev was a frictionless transit system that ran a convoluted circuit around the interior spaces of the Speranza like a network of blood vessels around a living being. Silvered linear induction rails sparked with e-mag pulses, the car running through the spaces between bulkheads at dizzying speeds that made Roboute’s heart race. Only an inertial dampening field within the compartment kept them from being crushed by the awesome g-force.
Mag levs need inertial compnesation to protect occupants, suggesting accels in excess of 10+ gees, possibly tens or hundred of gees. This again als reinforces the idea that this ship is truly fuckhuge.



Page 63
"The Speranza is fitted with numerous teleport chambers" said Blaylock. "Intended for both external and internal use, though to use them to travel within the bounds of the ship is considered wasteful and only ever employed in emergencies."
The Speranza has internal and external teleporters, echoing my previous sentiments.



Page 63
They’d already passed fog-belching refineries, chemical silos, flame-lit Machine temples, skitarii barracks, laboratory decks, training arenas, vast power plants with skyscraper-sized generators that spat coils of azure lightning, and building-sized structures that Magos Blaylock informed them were voltaic capacitors capable of running the vessel’s mechanical functions for a month.
Speranza's interior and capabilities. The capacitors are interesting, as it implies considerable long-term storage capability. Assuming a million souls and given the implications here we could figure several gigawatts of 'use' average. which works out to several petajoules total storage. Not bad for capacitors, especially as a backup measure.



Page 63
A towering vehicle hangar was filled with numerous gargantuan cathedrals of industry mounted on track units the size of hab-blocks, construction engines that could raise a city in under a day and demolition machinery capable of levelling a moderately-sized hive in half that. Folded solar collectors filled bay after bay, concertinaed like corrugated fields of black glass entwined with intricate gear mechanisms and looping arcs of insulated power relays.
One hangar was so vast it took them several seconds to traverse its length, but in that time, Roboute and his crew caught a glimpse of the mightiest war-engines of the Adeptus Mechanicus.
More MEchanicus miracles. Hab block (hundreds of metres long) construction engines that can build cities (individually!) and level hives in half tha ttime. Solar collectors (more backup power.)




Page 63
One engine with squared shoulders and legs like hab-towers – a Warlord – dwarfed the others, the armoured segments of its grey and gold carapace shifting like time-lapsed continental plates as it took thunderous steps towards its transit cradle. Such a machine could conquer worlds single-handedly, it could lay waste to cities and entire armies.
Warlord capabilities, including the typical 'waste cities' bit.



Page 64
The Titans were soon lost to sight as the mag-lev passed through a metres-thick bulkhead..
metres-thck bulkheads.



Page 64
An embarkation deck swarmed with armoured vehicles, caught in what looked like an almighty snarl-up. Super-heavies were locked in with main battle tanks, armoured fighting vehicles and lurching walkers that stopped and started as space opened up for them to move.
The 71st Cadian again. This time it has superheavies and AFVs (plural) as well as tanks. Very combined arms.



Page 65
"Cadians, eh?" said Adara with an appreciative nod. "We’re travelling in esteemed company."
"Titans? Cadians? Makes me wonder what this Kotov is expecting to find beyond the Halo Scar,"
Heh. Cadians are ranked as highly as Titans by this :P



Page 65-66
"Their vessel, a modified rapid strike cruiser, designed for smaller expeditionary forces."
..
"The Black Templars have chosen to keep their vessel noospherically dark"
Noospherics used in starships as a means of conveying identity and information, but also part of 'runnign silent'



Page 67
The third was a bulky armoured vehicle based on the ubiquitous Rhino chassis, but modified to be larger and bristing with weapon mounts, strange antennae and numerous blister pods of unknown function. The augmented Rhino’s hull was emblazoned with the same skull-and-lightning-bolt symbol that was stamped onto the skitarii’s breastplates.
A 'bigger' rhino. This is interesting because its indicative of a vehicle style/template/pattern, but built to larger dimensions. Given how variable some dimensions can be (such as, oh, titans) this could be a useful indicator of why. Also explain how baneblades go from 1000 tons to just 300 tons :P



Page 68
Pavelka shot him a puzzled glance, before remembering that neither Roboute nor Emil could discern noospheric data streams when disconnected from the Renard’s data engines.
The Rogue Trader captain and his first mate can read the noosphere, but only with the assistance of the starship's systems.


Page 68
"The air is alive with knowledge," she said. "It’s all around us, streams of invention and cascades of sacred algebraic construction. History, quantum biology, galactic physics, black hole chemistry, monomolecular engineering, fractal algorithms, bio-mechanical cognisance... You could spend a dozen lifetimes and you’d only ever know a fraction of what’s contained here."
AdMech 'disciplines' black hole chemistry, 'monomolecular' engineering are interesting, as well as the biomechanical cognisance (cogitators?) in a quantitative sense but in another.. it really plays up that more positive 'quest for knowledge' angle so prevalent in this book. We're not beaten over the head with the joke 'LOL TECHPRIESTS R IGNORANTZ' stuff to the exclusion of all else.. they're being shown as the guardians of lost and even dangerous technologies, which they try to recover for their faith and for humanity. It's much more interesting and powerful than unintentinoally hilarious grimdark.




Page 70
Thousands of chanting tech-priests and robed acolytes surrounded her, together with enormous fuel tenders, ammunition haulers and the hundreds of vehicles required to keep the God-Machines in the field.
Size of the logistics force for Titans. Five titans, in this case means thousands of people and hundreds of people.



Page 70
Despise infantry if you must. Crush them underfoot, by all means. But do not ignore them. Battlefields are littered with the wreckage of Titans whose crews ignored infantry.
Luth knew from bitter experience how easy it was to forget that these scurrying creatures could hurt him. His armoured pelt still bore the scars of the acids, bilious venoms and digestive juices of the tyranid swarms that had almost brought him to ruin amid the night-shrouded ice forests of Beta Fortanis. Lupa Capitalina rumbled beneath him, and he angrily shook off the memory as he felt its displeasure. No one liked to be reminded of their defeats, least of all a Warlord Titan of Legio Sirius.
Interesting because it suggests that, at least in sufficient numbers, even infantry can be a threat to titans. We know conventional ground vehicles in sufficient numbers (company or regiment size) can threaten a Titan if they get under the shields, and presumably the same for infantry (one example might even be Dark Apostle.) It might not be cost effective, but it can be done.



Page 70
Ten inertia-cradles occupied the far wall of the deck, enormous restraints that would couple the Legio’s engines to the Speranza on the long journey between the stars, too many for the remaining engines of Sirius. That more than half of the cradles would remain empty was a knife in Luth’s guts.
inertial cradles, for holding Titans in place. One imagines this ties in with the earlier assessment about 'inertial compensation' efficiencies.



Page 72
"I’m getting heat build in the plasma destructor again," noted Moderati Koskinen. "Looks like the Capitalina wasn’t too happy with Moonsorrow either."
..
Luth had felt the heat build, but ignored it, knowing it was simply the Capitalina’s anger that caused the temperature increase. He felt the soothing balm of coolant bathe his fist..
..
"The destructor’s heat-exchange coils have always been temperamental"
..
" that gun’s spirit has always been over-eager to be loosed."
Luth felt the Capitalina’s ire build at the disparaging tone in the tech-priest’s voice. Hyrdrith felt it too, and hurriedly added, "Though I admit its rapid rate of recharge more than makes up for that."
Titan machine spirits demonstrating more initiative and self-awareness than I can recall in some time (unless they overwhelm the princeps, like in Helsreach.) Almost like its partially automated. Parallels could be made with starships as well.
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Page 73
The space enclosed by the Adamant Ciborium was curiously modest, a vast structure surrounding a space no larger than the bridge of the Renard. Roboute guessed the walls must be at least a hundred metres thick or more, and he wondered what manner of revered technology had been worked within them.
Implied wall thicknesses in the Speranza of 100+ metres thick. Granted, this is probably not typical, as it is deep inside the ship and protecting important parts of it, but its notable as an example of why 40K starships can be so dang durable - adding up the layers of armor walls and bulkheads must add to the ship can mean that stuff deeper inside can be quite well protected even if the external armour is relatively thin.



Page 78
"You have desecrated a holy artefact," said Kotov. "I could have you executed on the spot for such blasphemy. Only those privy to the mysteries of the Cult Mechanicus are permitted to touch the inner workings of a blessed machine."
The AdMech has a monopoly to maintain after all. As we've noted, messing with AdMech tech illegitimately can have severe consequences.




Page 82
Along with Hawke, Coyne and Crusha, he worked with a hundred other men on a narrow gantry forming part of the the enormous rotator scaffolding that moved like a giant wheel around the outer circumference of a vast fusion reactor. The seething plasma reactor formed part of the ventral drive chamber. Three-quarters of a kilometre in diameter, each of the fifty drive chambers required two dozen plasma cylinders, each the size of an ore silo, to be loaded in like bullets in a revolver before the Speranza would have enough power to break orbit.
..As each thrumming plasma cylinder was brought in from the sealed munitions decks, the rotator scaffold would move around until it was aimed at the grooved tunnel into which it was to be slotted. Work crews occupied each gantry, manually guiding the colossal cylinders along greased rails until they were locked into the drive chamber. Then the rotator scaffold would turn again and another cylinder would emerge from below decks to be manhandled into place.
Engine duty. Each crew has to load up these plasma 'cartridges' into the reactors to power the plasma engines. And this, apparently, is only for the power to break orbit (120 cartridges total) It is interesting to speculate whether or not they have to do this regularly for the ship's engines (such as when it travels through the system accelerating) or this is just for escapeing the grip of the planet... we dont know. It is very 'archaic' seeming, and in line with the oft claimed 'theme' of 40K, so it could go both ways. Or it may just be the bizarre nature of the Speranza's engines - it is hardly a typical warship. (Then again a 'typical' warship might be shovelling fuel into its furnace, so this MAY actually be more sophisticated! lol.)
If this is routine practice for ship engines, and given that the work shift loading is apparently 12 hours, this could mean that the Speranza (or similarily designed craft) have a limit on how much thrust they can generate each day (as long as those cylinders last out) - once drained, they have no more thrust until said cylinders are replaced.) They probably have multiple shifts working back to back to constantly reload expended cylinders though.
also plasma reactors are also called 'fusion' reactors, which may or may not be true, considering some sources have treated them as separate. Naturally like most things, 'fusion' and 'plasma' can take on more than one meaning in 40K, so these are not mutually exclusive defintiions nor does this contradict (or is contradicted by) anything. Its just open to inteprretation.)



Page 83
But to Linya Tychon, whose prosthetic optic nerves were noospherically-enabled, it was a place of wonder, a place where entoptic machinery generated flows of data that floated in the air like unimaginably delicate neon sculptures.
optic nerve implants/prosthetics to permit viewing the noosphere. One thing I've always liked, conceptually, about the noosphere (and Manifold) is how it takes something complicated like data and computers and ties it up with the MIU links (and other 'intuitive' inputs like haptics) to make it something more... artistic or aesthetically pleasing. It can lend more character to the AdMech by making the whole 'religious/logical' thing something more.



Page 84
Information blurts passed between nodes of agglomerated facts, before being filtered for relevancy and then passed on through data prisms that spliced them to their destinations. Infocyte terminals, where multi-armed haptic seers parsed a million micro-packets of inloaded data a second, were gushing fountains of volcanic light, almost too bright to look upon directly.
millions of 'micro packets' processed each second. Which sounds impressive but.. we don't really know how big a 'micro-packet' is (packets of data IRL aren't fixed in size and there is no real way to fix them) For all we know its a millionth of a bit or byte, which would mean 1 bit/byte per second processed :P



Page 84
A ship as big as the Speranza generated a colossal amount of information every second: hull temperature fluctuations, gravitational drag factors, inertial compensation, reactor bleed, Geller field integrity, warp-capacitance, fuel tolerances, engine readiness, ablative voids, weapon arsenals, life-support, floodstream, Ancile gravity shields, teleport arrays and a billion other pieces of data to be processed by the awesomely complex logic engines of the ancient ship. Information hung in bright veils, reams of icons, numbers and readouts unravelling in skeins of light, a neural network of unimaginable intricacy and multi-dimensional geometry.
The quantity of data generated by the Speranza and its origins.. much of it being quite complex. A billion or so data sources to be handled and processed each second. If each piece of data were just one bit or byte we're still talking processing hundreds of megabytes/gigabytes each second, as a low end, and its likely each bit of data is far more complicated than that (kilobytes or more, probably)
Other than that the kinds of data are interesting... the monitoring of hull temperature, that voids are 'ablative' and there are also 'ancile' gravity shields, although their function is totally unknown, although 'ancile' in Roman mythology was (ancilia) one of twelve sacred shields, which would imply defensive roles. Unless it means 'ancillary' in which case it is some sort of supplementary/subsidiary device.



Page 85
... Kotov masking his impatience with a crooked grin, as though he thought a gesture of humanity would somehow appear comradely. Like most biological micro-expressions discarded by adepts of the Mechanicus along their route of ascension to machinehood, once it was gone it was near impossible to recover with any conviction.
Proof that the AdMech way of thinking can have inadvertant costs, even if they don't think of it as such. Loss of humanity can be a.... horrible thing to consider, much as it can be with Space Marines. How can you feel for the grater Imperium and humanity if you are no longer capable of anything human yourself?




Page 85
The green lights that bathed his disassembled brain were directed upwards, and a number of haptic claws sifted through streams of information passing between the ships that made up the Explorator Fleet.
Data sharing amongst the component vessels of the Explorator fleet, even the non-Mechanicus ones.




Page 85
Azuramagelli did not acknowledge their entry to the bridge, his full attention directed to factoring the complex statistical inloads of Magos Blaylock into his avionics packages. To plot a course through an inhabited system was a task of great complexity, one that required intimate knowledge of planetary orbits, local stellar phenomena and potential immaterial interference bleeding through the real space/warp space divide at the Mandeville point. Yet Azuramagelli had not only computed such a course, but one that incorporated every aspect of their journey over three sectors to the Halo Scar itself.
The complexity of star system navigation and the factors involved. Its interesting that 'immaterial interference' from tha Mandeville point (Having them pop up again is always fun.) is a factor, and that there is interference/bleed through. Although when you think about it, the constant entry/exits from the warp must wear the barrier between the warp and realspace pretty thin, making such breaches easier. That is actually a very good reason for starships not to emerge within a system very often, because that creates a real, tangible danger that Chaos (daemons) could exploit.
Also, we leanr the journey will cross 3 sectors of space. At a bare minimum it has to be at least 600 LY of space, although given that there is probably some considerable distance (hundreds, perhaps thousands of ly) between systems means its probably closer to tohousands of LY distance.




Page 86
"Yes, very good indeed. This should see us to the scar in forty-three days, plus or minus one day."
Duration of the transit. If we figure between 600 and 6000 LY as arough idea, assume a straight line, uninterrupted transit that would be at least 5,100-52,000c



Page 86-87
"The calculations are too complex for those not versed in hexamathical logic equations. You could not comprehend the multi-dimensional integer lattices without augmentation or inloaded wetware."
...
Linya reached up and exploded the ball of light with a rapid spread of her fingers. The shimmering algebraic architecture of Azuramagelli’s course plot spun around her, gossamer threads of holographic information of such complexity that it took her breath away. A billion times a billion calculations, statistical extrapolations and inloaded astrogation datum points from tens of thousands of sources surrounded her like a shoal of glitter-scale oceanids.
For the most part, his workings were exemplary and beyond the reach of even those who held the exalted rank of a primus grade hexamath. Yet Linya held an innate grasp of such concepts that bordered on preternatural, an instinctive understanding of the way numbers integrated with one another that had seen her crack previously insoluble proofs with apparent ease.
Warp calculations are incredibly complex over hundreds (or thousands) of light years, involving literally quadrillions of calculations and other data bits to achieve (from tens of thousands of sources, no less.) Again given that its probably an implied matter of hours or days to calculate we're talking about considerable data handling being suggested here.
What is really notable is the manner of the comprhension. Augmetics are needed, but also to be really good at it (like Linya) you need an almost instinctive/intuitive understanding of such things.. a mentat-like approach to information. Which to me brings to mind alot of the stuff from Mechanicum with the Akashic Reader, and Dalia Cythera in particular. Dalia's abilities were exceptional, but it could be said some lesser measure of that talent is the mark of a gifted Magos or techpriest. Nothign says that Ork Meks have to be the only 'inuitive' engineers. :P



Page 87
"A single flawed data inload from a microscopically deviant gravometric reading has been magnified exponentially throughout the calculation, going unnoticed as it spread its error margin to the entire working. This course will add four days to our journey, and force us to divert around the emergent Jouranion cometary shower."
Again, the complexities of calculating warp jumps, and the effects even a minor error can evidently have. Small wonder that non-Navigator warp jumps can be so slow or unpredictable. Navigators get around this by virtue of theira bility to 'see/read' the warp (detect and anticipate dangers) as well as a measure of precognitive ability, meaning their piloting is far more reactively efficient than what computers alone could achieve.
anyhow, revised numbers are at least 5600-58000c assuming 600-6000 LY as before.



Page 88
Though the 71st Hellhounds had been aboard the Speranza less than six hours, they had already run through numerous training scenarios with aggression and competence that belied their months of transit to Joura from the punishing warzones of the Eastern Fringe.
This implies again that six hours alone have passed for the calculations for warp transit have been made, as the destination and information weren't really available prior to then (but its again not definite) meaning that you handled quadrillions of bits of data in under a day.
Also in terms of warp transit we have the Cadians coming from the eastern fringe all the way over to (probably) Segmentum tempestus somewhere. That alone is over halfway across the Imperium, and probably a bit more (60,000-80,000 LY at least) and that assumes straightline. We dont know how MANy months, mind, but at the bare minimum we're talking a good 70-80,000c, and possibly as much as 300-500,000c (At least) for straight line travel.



Page 88
It was a fact of the Imperium’s vast scale that most Guard regiments suffered a substantial degradation in their combat effectiveness after long periods of transit in the holds of a Navy mass-conveyor. Soldiers and officers alike fell prey to a lassitude engendered by long periods of absence from the front line and the detrimental effects of prolonged immaterium travel.
Not so with these Cadians.
This novel is increidbly complimentary to Cadians in a way we haven't seen since Malleus. Total hardcore badasses and all that. In any case, we learn here that long travel times can be detrimental to regiments, which is perhaps one reason why they emphasize training and indoctrination so much onboard.



Page 88-89
It had taken Dahan less than a second to comprehend the simple codings of their cant, relying as it did on local argot and embedded cultural references. A simple index scan of database: Cadia, and a matching of shouts to actions provided the necessary syntax key to unlock the more complex orders. An inefficient means of relaying commands, but without access to the noosphere or any binaric link between soldiers, it was the best means of conveying orders in the heat of battle without compromising operational security.
Secutor breaks Cadian battle cant (and dissects it for our edification) in under a second. Basically meaning that he scanned/evaluated and dissected cadian language/culture in that time. Pretty cool.
We also get a comparison of Cadian approaches to warfare vs Admech.. noosphere and binaric links are a big part of their command and control.




Page 89
Spanning almost the entire width of the Speranza, this area of the ship was entirely given over to combat drills, training facilities and exercise grounds. Entire armies could train here, utilising the time between origin and destination to turn newly-raised regiments into battle-ready formations by the time a journey was over.
Any number of battlescapes could be mocked up. Entire cities could be raised in prefabricated permacrete, deserts sculpted by dozer rigs or vast forests embedded in the ground. The training deck was Dahan’s fiefdom aboard the Speranza, and he prided himself that there were no battle-scapes he could not create with his logistical resources, no testing ground that would not offer a host of challenges to a training force.
Thats one BIG training area on the Speranza, but I thin kwaht I find really impressive is the way they can mock up/construct virtually any sort of enviorment for training at the drop of a hat, implying considerable resources and construction capability even aboard ship



Page 89
Dahan made his way through the safe zone in the centre of the deck on the back of an open-topped variant of the Rhino chassis with a quad-mounted battery of heavy bolters fitted to its glacis. Known as an Iron Fist, it had been developed from a scrap of STC data uncovered on forge world Porphetus prior to its loss to the bio-horrors of the Great Devourer. It had yet to achieve full Mechanicus ratification, but Dahan liked its blunt profile and the single-mindedness of its purpose enough to employ it regardless of its unofficial status.
Its machine-spirit was a bellicose thing, eager to be at war, and he could feel its urge to take part in the battle drills being carried out to either side
A 'prototype' Rhino. Despite the fact it hasn't been officially sanctioned for general use, it doesnt stop the AdMehc from appropriating it for their own use. One set of rules for them, and one for others. It has a machine spirit (an actual intelligence it seems) and yet another Rhino variant at that.



Page 89
Every facet of his flesh was enhanced to kill: implanted rotator cannons sheathed over his shoulders, sub-dermal lightning claws and digital scarifiers in his wrists and fingertips, target prioritisers, electrically-charged floodstream, flame-retardant skin coatings, three-hundred-and-sixty-degree combat awareness surveyor packages, and enhanced substrate ammunition storage.
Dahan was a killing machine, a mathematician of death.
With over sixteen billion combats inloaded and structurally analysed, his statistical synthesis of the fighting styles of a hundred and forty-three life forms had enabled him to compile a database of almost every combat move possible. Few were the opponents who could surprise Hirimau Dahan, and fewer still would have a chance of besting him.
secutor implants and augmentations for combat. The shoulder mounted rotary guns are, honestly, the most impressive bit to me, although the sensory/awareness and the skin protection is cool.
Also he has sixteen billion combats and all sorts of data inloaded, which implies he can analyze/process it all fairly rapidly in order to effectively combat any threat.



PAge 89-90
Dividing his multi-faceted eyes and senses between the various battle drills being carried out around his tank, Dahan soaked up the myriad sources of information being generated by the thousands of soldiers working through punishing combat simulations
Thousands of soldiers (implied Cadians) and the Secutor noospherically asssessing the data being generated. I'm not sure how the Cadians are generating noospheric data though.


PAge 90
Sniper units riding on the roofs of Chimera armoured fighting vehicles took shots of uncanny accuracy to take out ambush teams armed with missile launchers or any other form of tank-killer.
Cadian snipers using Chimeras as firing platforms. Rather cool really.



Page 90
With each pass, Mechanicus gene-bulked ogryns and heavy lifter rigs would move in and rearrange the cityscape’s plan in ever more elaborate and deadly ways..
more gene-bulked ogryns, also heavy lifter rigs (either sentinels or some other sort of exoskeletal frame.)



Page 90
Few flesh and blood regiments could achieve anything close to Mechanicus levels of efficiency in war, and Dahan had to admit that Kotov had chosen well by requesting a formation of Cadians.
Yes, they were an efficient fighting force, but they were no skitarii.
Again Cadians being praised as some of the best (non Skitarii) forces our Secutor buddy has encountered (impyling they are 'close' to Mechanicus levels of warmaking, although how close is up for debate.) Of course the Secutor also ignores the Astartes in favor of skitarii, so he may be a wee bit biased (indeed there's an element of that to the story, both WRT the Cadians AND the Space Mraines.) Interpersonal interactions between the various elements of the task force (The Guard, Navy, Space Marine, and Rogue traders) forms a key part of the story overall, with those other arms being a comparison and contrast for the AdMech components in all their variety.



PAge 90-91
Armoured in black, with form-fitting body armour, the skitarii fought without the grunting, sweating exertion of the Cadians. With physiques boosted by stimm-shunts, adrenal boosters and dormant muscle-enhancers, they had not the need for the aggressive yells that dulled the fear response and triggered hormonal changes to enable a soldier to flout his body’s survival instinct.
Carefully controlled chemical stimulants drove skitarii bodies, together with mechanised augmentations to boost accuracy, strength and speed. Already the best of the regiments from which they had been plucked, these soldiers were the elite of the Mechanicus, rendered into some of galaxy’s premier fighting men and women.
Secutor Dahan's skitarii. Again I suspect these may be different from the Skitarii of the other Secutor, meaning ther are perhaps t least 2000 such on board ship. WE also learn more about the physicla enhancements... stimulants and adrenaline/muscle enhancement chemical stuff, in order to trigger physiological changes along with the augmentations. On top of them being selected from the best of the military forces the AdMech can access (probably meaning at least storm trooper level.)
Mind you, givne the Imperial guard can employ 'enhancing' augmetics (perhaps not as good as what the AdMech or wealthy havE) and stuff like the lostock gland warriors, so its possible for them to come close if they wished.


PAge 91
Dahan was a master of the arts of war, a tactician and a warrior, a magos who had become his own test-bed for the weapon upgrades and fighting styles inloaded from other skitarii forces through the forge world Manifold. To fight and kill in ever more inventive and efficient ways was Dahan’s means of drawing closer to the Omnissiah.
More on the Secutor's warmaking abilities. This is notable (to me) because the dude basically glories in developing new ways to kill. Totally not based on ignorance and superstition, and lots of heretical 'research' :P



PAge 92
Uniforms were rumpled and dusty, and to all outward appearances, the troopers appeared to be an ill-disciplined bunch. Their captain led them from the building with a rifle slung over his shoulder, its muzzle drooling fumes from heat-discharge.
Lasguns apparently ejecting smoke/fumes form their barrels as a result of 'heat discharge', suggesting perhaps that lasgun cooling is an 'open cycle' sort of cooling (that requires coolant be added) and may explain periodic recoil bits.


Page 92
Hawkins grunted in what Dahan assumed was amusement, but it was an officer whose biometrics identified him as Lieutenant Taybard Rae that answered. "It’s an acronym, sir. Stands for Fighting In Someone’s Hab. It’s what we call building clearances."
Dahan can identify troopers by biometrics. whether this means they have implanted identifiers of some kind or if he just recognizes the dude's specific biological/physiological makeup, we don't know.



PAge 93
It turned its prow towards the outer edges of the system as the blue-hot sun of its engine section flared and shifted it from geostationary anchor.
Engine exhaust 'blue hot' stars. Which accoridng to this would imply a temp of around 30-60 thousand K at least.
Also geostationary anchor, which may also define 'high anchor.'



Page 93
..Magos Saiixek feathered the engine outputs to create a swirling flare of variant radiation outputs that descended through the atmosphere to produce a vivid aurora over the northern hemisphere. Though such a gesture seemed out of character for the adepts of the Mechanicus, it was customary for departing explorator fleets to acknowledge the labours of those who had furnished them with the means to venture into the unknown.
Mechanicus explorator traditions.. one which shows that they are amongst the most liberal, erratic (and therefore human-like) Mechanicus of all. It also again is one of those little touches that adds 'character' to the AdMech and shows that they really just have a different way of viewing the universe, but it doesnt mean they cna't find beauty or wonder in things (they just do it in ways that others would not.)



Page 93
At least fifty ships remained in orbit, still suckled by the industry of the world below. The Guard muster for the Pergamus Sector still had weeks to go before its Lords Militant would consider their loading and supply complete. To muster enough men and materiel for a lengthy campaign was not an operation to undertake lightly.
AT last 50 Crusade ships still around Joura, and weeks to go for the Crusade to prepare.


Page 94
A host of craft followed the three lead vessels: refinery ships, mining hulks, vessels that were little more than vast atomic reactors, manufactory ships, vast water-bearing haulers, repair ships, and a host of fleet tenders that could be employed as general workhorses to ferry men and war machines between the fleet.
non-warship components of the Mechanicus explorator fleet. Note the 'atomic' reactor-ships. Basically the fleet is completely self-sufficient as far as the exploration goes. Plus the Speranza, we also learn there are two refitted cruisers, a number of frigates and escorts, and the rogue trader and space marine ships. Other warships will be mentioned.



Page 94
The Retribution-class vessel Cardinal Boras had been constructed in the shipyards of Rayvenscrag IV nearly five thousand years ago and was no stranger to such voyages of exploration. As part of a fleet led by Rogue Trader Ventunius, it had ventured deep into the northern rim of the galaxy and had been one of only five vessels to return. Its guns had ended the Regime of Iron at the battle of Korsk, and its proud history included battle honours earned in over eighteen different sector fleets.
The Cardinal Boras gets a mention.. and it also gets around quite a bit. Note that it has served in Rogue tRader fleets, indicating that Rogue Traders occasionally do get ahold of battleships from the Navy (either bought or borrowed.)



Page 95
To repay a centuries-old Debita Fabricata to Archmagos Kotov, the forge world Voss Prime had despatched three heavily armed escort cruisers from Battlefeleet Armageddon to stand for Mars.
Debt and obligation ruling the ADMech. The other component of the fleet are Voss pattern vessels. The Archmagos really hauls his forces in from far away, doesn't he? :P



Page 95
Squadrons of modified frigates, destroyers and a host of local system vessels flew as an honour guard to the Explorator Fleet, though they would turn back at the system’s edge. With enough resources to sustain a fleet expedition beyond the stars for many years..
Non-Monitor system defence force ships, which includes frigates and destroyers. Suggests monitors may be bigger (light cruiser or cruizer size?) but at least some planetary defense escorts are several km long. Given you have a million or so worlds, that means millions of such craft in the Imperium.
Also the operational duration of the fleet.



Page 102
"Human fates are so brief and fickle that they are difficult to follow with any real precision."
Farseers have trouble tracking human lives due to their lifespans and mindsets. One of the complexities of warp prediction.



Page 103
He was a leviathan, a mighty bio-mechanical construct engineered far beyond the natural evolutionary norm for his kind. His structure was immense, self-sustaining and driven to grow larger, an amusingly biological imperative; exist, consume, procreate. To be of iron and oil, stone and steel was to know permanence, but if the fleshy remnants at the heart of these perceptions knew anything, it was that nothing fashioned by the hand of Man was permanent.
Seated upon his command throne and linked to the machine heart of the Speranza via dermal haptics, MIUs and the Manifold, Archmagos Lexell Kotov felt the spirit of his ship rushing through him..
The Speranza, like the titans, are self aware and even seems driven to evolve (inasmuch as a starship can evolve.) Also the Archmagos has dermal haptics and and MIU/Manifold liknups to the spirit.



Page 103
The Speranza’s machine-spirit was orders of magnitude greater than any bio-augmented sentience he had encountered. It could easily consume the totality of his mortal mind and leave his body a vacant, brain-dead shell with no more sense of its own existence than a servitor. Kotov had once risked linking his mind’s full cognitive functions with the wounded heart of a forge world to avert a catastrophic reactor failure, but the Speranza dwarfed even that mighty spirit.
'bio augmented' sentience, which I gather is meant to refer to machine spirits, or suchnot. Also forge worlds have some sort of 'sentience' guiding them.



Page 104
Forge worlds were seething cauldrons of pure function, singularly directed to the point of mindlessness, entire planets of manufactories driven to extremes of production that could only be yoked by the tens of thousands of Martian adepts thronging their surfaces. The Speranza held that same function, but was unfettered from fixed stellar geography, a forge world that could travel the stars, a mighty engine of creation to rival the scale of those crafted in the Golden Age of Technology.
Forge worlds, it seems, have some sort of central 'machine spirit' governing everything (and guided by Techpriests linked to them) much as starships and titans do, with similar purpose - to help guide and control their given tasks (Which I suppose can mean some sort of automation goes on.)
Speranza again is also likened to a forge world, only one that moves.



PAge 104
One of the legendary Ark Mechanicus.
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Only a handful of such incredible vessels were said to exist, and to have discovered one intact was a miracle to rival that of stumbling across a fully functioning STC system.
The Ark Mechanicus. We saw battleship-scale vessels like that described in BFG's 2010 update. They're basically the high end of AdMech vessels (meaning they are, for the most part, high end of Imperial starships.)



PAge 105
It had taken him three centuries to prise it loose from the structures built onto its submerged hull, and another two to coax it into space with a fleet of load lifters and gravity ballast. Its unfinished elements had been completed in the orbital plates, the disassembled components of three system monitors providing the necessary steelwork and missing elements of tech. His shipyards had the expertise and required STC designs to render the ship space-worthy, but reviving its dormant machine-spirit had been another matter entirely.
Raising the Speranza from the surface of a forge world. Note the mention of orbital plates (for construction/industrial purposes.. orbital factories) and also disassembling some Monitors to provide parts (System monoitors, which suggests they were pretty freaking big even to finish the mostly-complete Speranza.)
It is also interesting that they consider the only 'difficult' part of the ship to be the machine spirit (although with what we learn later, the 'understanding' of the Speranza's systems could be up for debate.)




Page 105
Kotov had communed with dying forge worlds, calmed rebellious Titans and purged corrupted data engines of primordial scrapcode, but the ancient spirit of the Speranza had almost destroyed him.
Again Forge worlds have some sort of 'awareness' like Titans and starships, making them a (sort of) Admech version of Eldar Maiden Worlds. Also Titans have some degree of sentience too.





PAge 105
Like a wounded beast, it had lashed out in agonised bursts of archaic code all around the bio-neural networks of Palomar. Its machine screams overloaded the forge world’s carefully balanced regulatory networks and brought the planet to ruin in the blink of an eye. Hundreds of reactor cores were driven to critical mass in an instant and the subsequent explosions laid waste to entire continents. Irreplaceable libraries were reduced to ash, molten slag or howling code scraps. Millions of tanks, battle-engines and weapons desperately needed for Mankind’s endless wars were lost in the radioactive hellstorm.
By the time the Speranza’s birth rages had subsided, every living soul on the planet’s surface was dead and every surviving forge irradiated beyond any hope of recovery, leaving a gaping shortfall in Kotov’s production tithes. Yet the loss of an entire forge world was a small price to pay, for the ancient starship now remembered itself and its glorious function. Though a number of the ship’s lower decks had been impregnated with contaminated dust blown up by planet-wide radiation storms, the majority of its structure had been spared the worst ravages of the destruction it had unleashed.
The awakening of the Speranza. Various points of interest. First, the Forge world has all sorts of 'fragile' regulatory networks that apparently controls every facet of the planet's operations (industrial, power, etc.) Also mention of 'bio-neural' networks, which presumably are those networks controlling everything.
Millions of tanks lost, which may represent a monthly, annual, bi-annual, or whoever knows tithe - we dont know how long it took to make but presumably a fairly short period, as Forge worlds are some of the most active industrial worlds in the Imperium and subject to constant visitation by merchant and freight ships, troop transports, etc.

Also 'hundreds' of the planets reactors going up (and of unknown nature) equals continental destruction, which may tell us something about power generation/fuel storage on said Forge worlds. Indeed the entire planet is basically destroyed in the process of widespread devastation. Which the Speranza survives, incidentally.



Page 106
The Speranza’s mind swiftly became a gestalt entity woven from the assimilated spirits of all the machines that made up its superlative structure. Even the great data engines of the Adamant Ciborium were little more than specks in the mass of its colossal mindspace, a linked hivemind in the purest sense of the word. In the heart of the Speranza all cognition was shared in the same instant, and no purer form of thought existed.
Machine spirits of the Speranza are a gestalt made up of many components (not unlike Chaos daemons and gods.) Its an interesting idea, and it may explain how all the machine spirits of a large vehicle/construct can become 'aware' in some fashion (like starships) The 'gestalt' aspect is very much an ingrained part of the AdMech's tech base and doctrines (becoming one with the Machine as they believe the Omnissiah is.) and it can mean the unity of both the AdMech AND the various machien spirit elements (cogitators, servitors, etc.) into one whole. Of course given that some machine spirits are made up of organic bits, or just outright cyborg computers, that 'unity' can again have human/organic parallels to other 40K groups.factions.
I've actually rather liked these ideas, as the elements of MIU linkages, gestalts, and all that can offset the apparent lack of 'automation/AI' - or rather its the Imperial analogue - but also providing it in a way that is thematically 'consistent' with the fantasy-esque approach to 40K. Much as Titans can be viewed as warriors riding mounts to war, you can also view starship and similar as warriors riding vaster 'mounts'.



Page 106
Abrehem had thought fuelling the plasma drives had been the most thankless task he had ever been forced to endure, but pressure-scouring their vent chambers of the byproducts of combustion had surpassed even that. Every ten hours, the drives would excrete a volcanic mix of plasma embers, toxic chemical sludge and residual heavy metals burned from the internal coatings of the drives.
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Glassy, razor-sharp waste materials lay heaped in great dunes of reflective grey chips, much of which would be recycled for use elsewhere in the ship.
Plasma reactors evidently 'combust' and have combustion byproducts, suggesting the 'plasma reactors' are undergoing some sort of chemical reaction. Yes, this makes me think of diesel fusion jokes, yet again, especially given what was mentioned before :P
Then again context impliess they're suffering radiation poisoning from working the plasma reactors as they are losing hair and teeth (at least I think its radiation.) So.. possibly mixed signs. Go figure.
Also the byproducts are collected and recycled. Explorators are big on recycling.



Page 110
Contained in its moulded depressions were a thick, tasteless nutrient paste with the consistency of tar, a handful of vitamin and stimulant pills, and a tin cup half-filled with electrolyte-laced water.
AdMech Bondsman fare has degenerated quite a bit since they were captured. Its still better than what is found on Relentless, though, if you discount the fact of the aformentioned poisoning of some kind.




Page 110
..Abrehem’s optic implants had registered a drift of light from a sub-dermal electoo on the underside of its forearm, a name written in curling gothic script. He blinked as he recognised the name and turned his own arm over to reveal an identical smear of electrically-inscribed lettering.
Optic implants and electoos. The dock workers on Joura had been implanted with electoos as markers/identifiers.




Page 110-111
Ismael’s face was slack and expressionless, the augers and brain spikes driven into his skull destroying his sentience and replacing it with a series of program loops, obedience flow-paths and autonomic function regulators. One eye had been plucked out and replaced with a basic motion and heartbeat monitor..
Description of componets of the servitorization process.



Page 111
Abrehem held out his forearm, willing his own electoo to become visible..
Electoos are, it seems, a sort of augmetic, as they can be controlled by thought (or at least activated by such.)



Page 112
The fleet was making good time through the outer reaches of the Joura system, the course Mistress Tychon had plotted proving to be an exemplary display of stellar cartographical aptitude.
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The Mandeville point was close, and Kotov could sense the ship’s burning desire to be pressing on through the veil of the immaterium once more. Its labouring plasma engines were running close to maximum tolerance, and the risk of drive chamber burnouts was exponentially higher.
Mention of Mandeville points again, and a hint that the 38-43 day timeframe included sublight travel. Wihout knowing breakdowns, of course its hard to be more accurate, although it points to my previous transit assessments being conservative.
We also learn the not-so-surprising fact that running at maximum (or close to maximum) capacity is risky (zero safety margin, increased risk of failure, or 'burnout') and thsu indicating the Imperial ships typically runa t much less than max capacity.



Page 112-113
Kotov detached a sliver of his consciousness and sent it through the noosphere to calm the eagerness of the engines. His augmented brain could function with full cognitive awareness while numerous portions were split from the whole attending to lesser functions. A hundred or more elements of his consciousness were seconded to the ship’s various systems, yet he locked enough of his mind within his cerebral cortex to maintain his sense of self.
Archmagos multitasking. Seems to be a consequence of their augmetics and general brain arhcitecture, and in many ways its pretty impressive - able to handle 100+ such divisions/compartmentalizations whilst retaining a non-trivial part to maintain his own sense of identity. And again its interesting for the sort of quasi-automation analogue it provides - the ship's various systems/components DO have significant guidance.



PAge 113
Farthest ahead was the Renard, and Kotov took a moment to fully study Captain Surcouf’s vessel. It was a fine ship, heavily modified with Adeptus Mechanicus sanctioned refits and upgrades to render it faster, more agile and more heavily armed than its size would suggest. Such modifications would not have been acquired cheaply from a forge world..
The AdMech can greatly enhance the performance of Imperial ships beyond what their 'size' would normally have... as long as you can pay for it or have the right connections (EG Space Marines or Inquisition). Indication that the performance of many of the ships we see is, unsurprisingly, far from the upper limit of performance of what the AdMech can provide - its either a limit of what they can provide efficiently (en masse) or maybe just waht they choose to provide to the greater mass of humanity (like the Navy. As we said, the Inquisition and Space Marines stand as proof that humanity's warships can be better than typically believed.)



Page 113
The remainder of the fleet was on station around the Speranza, clustered around its majesty like flunkies at a royal court. Independent shards of his sentience issued corrective orders to a number of ships’ captains without his primary focus having to do so consciously; manoeuvre orders to those that had drawn too near, internal system modifications to those whose data-networks were accumulating micro-errors in their workings.
Kotov's multitasking skills are such he can devote massive amounts of attention to running his ship, as well as subconsciously ensuring his fleet maintains coordination with the Speranza. A sort of rudimentary datalinking I suppose (not surprising, given what the Manifold/Noosphre are meant to be.)




Page 114
Arcetri had been the first of Kotov’s forge worlds to fall, attacked and consumed by a questing tendril of Hive Fleet Harbinger.
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Uraniborg 1572 was lost to the machinations of the Arch-Enemy...
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Such a grievous loss would have been catastrophic in isolation, but coming so soon after the fall of Arcetri, it had almost broken Kotov. The destruction of Palomar was the final nail in his coffin...
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How could a magos who had allowed three forge worlds to fall to Mankind’s enemies be expected to maintain his holdings on Mars? Surely, they said, such forge temples as remained to Magos Lexell Kotov should be redistributed to other, more capable magi before his ill-starred touch could destroy them too?
Kotov had at least 3 forge worlds under his control prior to catastrophe, plus holdings on MArs. Indicating that like Rogue Traders (or Space Marine Chapter Masters), the individual lords/Magos of the AdMech can often wield significant resources, likely making them equal to (or better) than similar Peers of the Imperium.
It must be said Kotov's misfortunes are also.. convenient. It seems likely that the Eldar may have had a hand in it (given Biel-Tan's presence in the book.) We know they had a hand in shaping th epath of the Black Templars in this story.




Page 115
...Telok was said to have spent his entire life in search of something he called the Breath of the Gods, an artefact of such power that it could reignite dying stars, turn geologically inert rocks into paradise planets and breathe life into the most sterile regions of wilderness space.
Whether true or not, we dont know.



Page 115
A last fragmented message, relayed to Mars from beyond the Halo Scar, spoke of his expedition’s success. A distorted scrap of communication relayed through the Valette Manifold station was all that remained of the Telok Expedition, an incomplete code blurt over three thousand years old.
Which is.. interesting. Is a 'Manifold station' part of some much larger Manifold network? We know that (in Titan terms, as well as in this book) the MAnifold is basically an interactive sensory space that provides information about a vehicle (or vessel) and its enviroment. This 'Manifold' would suggest some sort of fTL 'network' linking parts of the AdMech domains together into a greater 'Manifold'.. which itself echoes the concept of the 'Transmat link' and psychic serivtors from earlier 40K fluff.



Page 117
...The Ballad of Trooper Thom, a wistful folk tune from ancient days that told the story of a dying soldier of the Five Hundred Worlds regaling a pretty nurse with the beauty of the home world he would never see again.
Mention of the 'five hundred worlds' of Ultramar, although no indication if it still HAS five hundred worlds, or if it lost them. Note that not having that huge a realm does not mean all those worlds were destroyed, or that they don't have contact.. its quite possible we could have a large number of TArsis ultra-like planets arising out of the ashes of the Heresy.



PAge 118
His distinguished service in the Iax Defence Auxilia was coming to an end, but instead of hanging up his rifle and taking a position in one of the better Agrarian Collectives, he had submitted his service jacket to the Navy Manifold.
The Navy seem to maintain their own Manifold. Geez, everyone has one of those these days it seems. computer networks, I guess?





Page 119
He tapped his authority signifiers onto the desk’s surface and a hololithic panel of smoked glass hinged up from the rich red wood. Course vectors, fuel-consumption and curving attitude parabolas scrolled past as the Renard’s data engines fed him information from its own surveyor packages as well as those inloaded from the Speranza’s auspex arrays. He scanned the flood of information, letting the enhancements worked into the computational centres of his brain process the data without the need of his frontal brainspace. His natural Ultramarian aptitudes had ensured a rapid ascent through the Naval command ranks and saw him implanted with a number of cerebral augmentations, all of which had proven their worth many times – both in space and ashore.
Our Rogue Trader Captain displays yet more augmetic capabilities. Assessing and receiving information (directly) from his ship, as well as data transmitted from Speranza and all of it handled by cerebral/augmetic enhancements that help process data. What's more, these enhancements seem to be standard for Naval crews - at least out of an Ultramar origin (or perhaps just in Segmentum Ultima. Which if we take Fire Warrior as true, means its more backwards compared to the rest of the Imperium)



Page 124
The fleet began its final approach to the Mandeville point with two of the escorts from Voss Prime and the Adytum in the vanguard. Cardinal Boras followed close behind, with Wrathchild and Moonchild prowling the flanks of the Speranza. The Renard was now berthed in one of its cavernous holds, for there was no reason to maintain a flight profile when it could be carried aboard a bigger ship instead.
The Speranza is big enough that a 3 km cruiser can dock inside of it. Hints of attached warship/sublight parasites from the Space Fleet era.
Oh, and Final approach to the Mandeville point.



Page 124
High above the engine wake of the Ark Mechanicus, Mortis Voss kept watch on their rear, for this was when the fleet was at its most vulnerable. As the fires of the plasma engines cooled and the fleet bled off speed, it also lost the ability to fight and manoeuvre effectively. Corsair fleets often lurked in debris clusters, hollowed out asteroids or electromagnetically active dust clouds before pouncing on prey vessels.
Interestingly enough this implies that Imperial ships do not spend the bulk of their time accelerating, but only some time during the start and ending of the journey. It may also suggest they do not travel at high velocities since they seem to be close to the Mandeville point as they are bleeding off speed.
This passage is also interesting in that it suggests that the speeds at which vessels travel across star systems (from a planet to a warp point, or vice versa) have importance in combat (At least combat away from said planets/warp points. Given that the velocities involved can easily be hundreds or thousands of km/s at a minimum, that can carry significant implications for kinetic impacts and the like (and weapons velocities as well.)
Oh and mention of pirates prowling (and ambushing) ships at 'jump points'



Page 124
Situated far from the sucking gravity well of the sun, the Mandeville point represented the region of space that centuries of experience and hard-won knowledge had identified as the best place to breach the membrane separating realspace and warp space. A ship could translate into the warp elsewhere, of course, but such were the risks involved that any means of reducing the danger was worth the extra transit time to the more distant Mandeville point.
Explanations of Mandeville points again, this time more 'rules of thumb' resulting from experience, rather than hard absolute limits. Safety seems to be the overriding purpose - Mandeville points are the safeest places for starships to translate in and out of a system without danger (and also the easiest, meaning efficient translations energy and wear/tear wise.) but they also can protect planets of a system from the threat of Warp/realspace incursions and the resulting chaos taint seeping into the system (because such entry/exits can weaken the barrier between the dimensions.. recall the mention of interfrence bleeding through at warp points.)
This of course means that its quite possible for ships to emerge closer to a planet (up to a point, depending on technology, Navigator, etc.) but it would only be done in serious situations or emergencies due to the dangers involved. Also it probably goes without saying that Mandeville points are not fixed (hinted at again later.)



Page 124-125
The Speranza would make the first breach, her warp generators spooling up with enough force to rip a gateway into the warp for the rest of the fleet to use. It was difficult enough to maintain fleet cohesion after a warp translation at the best of times, harder still if each ship had to tear its own path through. Better that one ship shouldered the hard work for the rest, and the Speranza was easily capable of such an expenditure of power.
Cocooned Navigators and mentally-conjoined astropaths would maintain links between the fleet, but nothing about travel through the warp was certain, and astrogation data, together with emergency rally points, was passed between each shipmaster.
We learn it is possible for a single ship to create a warp portal big enough for multiple ships to transit, although this does not prevent them from needing a Gellar field. Whilst it requires more power and puts a strain on the single ship (esp to hold it open long enough for all ships ot transit) it has the advantage of permitting fleets to stay more coordinated whilst travelling together through the warp.)
an interesting corollary is that its possible for sublight ships (those withotu warp drives) to still travel through the warp as long as they had Gellar fields and accompanied a starship with a drive. Which could be quite useful in bulking out fleet number (EG system monitors/defense ships.)
We also learn about emergency measures in case contact is lost.


Page 125
Though the Ark Mechanicus was a ship of exploration, she was not without teeth, and had more than enough power reserves in her vast capacitors to defend herself in the event of any surprise attack.
The implication of which is that the Speranza (and possibly other starships) rely on capacitors and stored power to achieve a great many of their offensive (and perhaps defensive) roles. This could mean that starship firepower is much greater than reactor output, or it may just reflect limitations in the power transmission technology (EG they can only transmit a fraction of the reactor's total power, and have to 'build up' charge for comparable attacks.)
Interestingly we're mentioned that the ship broadcasts warnings to declare ships should keep their distance.



Page 125
A suppurating wound in the material universe, the space around it buckled in torment, loosing tortured screams unheard by any save weeping astropaths and Cadian primaris psykers locked in psychic Faraday cages.
Psychic faraday cages. Also indication that warp travle is hell on psykers, meaning that using those powers only makes it worse (and increases the dangers to mortal passengers.)



Page 126
Though most translation events were timed to occur when the fewest number of crewmen were on their nightside rotation and bells were rung throughout the ship to keep men from their nightmares, it was inevitable that some would pass between worlds while asleep.
Sleep, unsurprisingly, can put crews at greater risk of posession or such, since their minds are at rest (potentially unguarded) and dreams can offer fodder for Daemons to access/influence reality (or the people in it.)



Page 126
Likewise, few of the Adeptus Mechanicus slept, their biological components’ requirement for rest overruled by their artificial implants in anticipation of the translation.
AdMech can via augmetics control their sleeping functions.



Page 126
Cortex-fused armsmen prowled the decks of every ship, alert for any sign of danger, shot-cannons and shock mauls at the ready. Translation was always a time fraught with disturbances; fights whose cause no one could quite remember, raving sleepwalkers, suicide attempts, random acts of senseless violence, delirious bouts of uninhibited sex and the like.
Throughout the fleet, men and women experienced nightmares, sweating palpitations, gloomy premonitions of their own death or prolonged bouts of melancholia.
Precautionary measures against Chaos taint from warp travel. I dont knwo what Cortex fusing does, but presumably it makes them harder to corrupt/more resistant to the effects of the warp without makign them servitors. Also random acts of emotion (violence, sex, etc.) are considered indicators of such taint.




Page 127
Nor were the destabilising effects of warp translation confined solely to the mortal elements of the fleet; its mechanical components suffered similar trauma. On every ship, from the most complex machines that were beyond mortal understanding to the simplest circuits, the technology of the Kotov Fleet felt the fear of new and impossible physical laws that interfered with their smooth running. Glitches bloomed and a hundred faults developed every minute, keeping the tech-priests, lexmechanics and servitors working shift after shift to ensure nothing vital failed at the worst possible moment.
Makes sense. We know the warp can fuck with the inorganic as readily as the organic, up to and including physically warping solid matter or just 'jinxing' the operations of devices, so that the ship's function smay be messed with by the warp isn't all that surprising. It actually helps to heighten the whole 'danger' thing in many situations, as you can't ever be 100% sure your systems will be repairable or something vital might fail.




Page 127
To spare their princeps the worst effects of translation, the tech-priest crews had shut them off from the outside world, sealing each singular individual in their milky prisons with only memories of past lives to sustain them.
..
Luth’s every link to the outside world was closed off to him, but Lupa Capitalina felt his pain and shared it, its systems flaring in empathic fury.
Which suggests the psychic nature of MIU's again, as the princeps and Titan can remain empathically tied even if the physical connections are severed/blocked off.


Page 128
She avoided the warp spiders, leaving them to their unthinking labours as she eased through the ribs of the giant vessel and felt the hot neutron wind roaring past the hull and filling the solar sails with energy. Vast reservoirs of power burned in the heart of the Starblade, resources harvested from the aether and the almost limitless reserves of the stars.
Eldar ships seem to use their sails more as power collectors (and possibly the warp, if we translate 'aether' that way.) Which means that Eldar ships might actually run on batteries :D




Page 132
Felspar confirmed their identities with a sweep of a data wand that compared their biometrics with those that had been recorded the moment they’d first stepped aboard the Speranza.
Cadian/Guard security measures against infiltration. Also seems to be a weapon detector (or at least the Cadians use one) as they pick up on the knife one of the Rogue Trader's minions is carrying.



Page 134
A brass-scaled automaton – fashioned from clockwork in the shape of a small, tree-climbing lizard – clung to his shoulder, its irising eye regarding him with dumb machine implacability.
Automatons/mechanicals seem to be okay as long as they are stupid it seems. Ora t least very much clockwork, although this one seems to have some awareness/funciontality rather than just a toy (it can notice/react to things.



Page 135
Vitali Tychon’s face was impossible to read. Superficially, it resembled what he must have looked like as a creature of flesh and blood, but malleable sub-dermal plasteks had been injected in the dead meat of his face, making him look like an up-hive mannequin. His eyes were multifaceted chips of green in eye sockets that were just a little too wide to be entirely natural looking...
..
..Linya Tychon placed a reassuring hand on Emil’s elbow. Roboute caught the flash of brass-rimmed augmetics at her ear beneath strands of blonde hair, and the telltale glassiness of artificial eyes. Subtly done and implanted with the intent of retaining her humanity.
The Techpriest augmetics of the Tychon Duo - Vitali and Linya. Both opt for more 'humane' seeming ones, although Linya's augmetsics are more obviously subtle, whereas Vitali seems intent on simulating human features artificially. Its always interesting to know how augmetics like that can manifest.




Page 136-137
"Because I came along for an obscenely large sum of money and an in perpetuitus refit contract for my trade fleet."
"From a magos with no forge holdings beyond the red sands of Mars?"
"Our contract doesn’t specify those refits need to be carried out in one of Magos Kotov’s forges."
"I’m sure, but it seems like a flimsy reason when your aexactor records show that you can easily afford the tithes the Mechanicus requires for refit contracts."
"You’ve read my aexactor records?" said Roboute. "Aren’t they supposed to be sealed by the Administratum?"
"The entire record of your life became freely available to inload by any magos the moment you contracted with the Adeptus Mechanicus."
Again upgrades and maintenance are largely issues of wealtha nd influence when it comes to dealign with the AdMech - and the technology is the AdMech's way of acquiring what it needs to survive and flourish.
We also learn that the AdMech have no concept of data privacy, which goes to show what the advantages of being the guardians of technology can be.
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Re: 40K AdMech novels discussion thread

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Connor MacLeod wrote:millions of 'micro packets' processed each second. Which sounds impressive but.. we don't really know how big a 'micro-packet' is (packets of data IRL aren't fixed in size and there is no real way to fix them) For all we know its a millionth of a bit or byte, which would mean 1 bit/byte per second processed :P
How would you even divide a bit?

Anyway, assuming million bits, we get rather unimposing figure of 0.12 megabyte :lol:
Warp calculations are incredibly complex over hundreds (or thousands) of light years, involving literally quadrillions of calculations and other data bits to achieve (from tens of thousands of sources, no less.)
Using FLOPS unit, quadrillion calculations equals about one petaflop. Chinese Tianhe-2 computer is ranked at about 33.86 petaflops. Writers, maybe check facts before throwing "impressive" numbers around? :lol:
Secutor breaks Cadian battle cant (and dissects it for our edification) in under a second. Basically meaning that he scanned/evaluated and dissected cadian language/culture in that time.
Ironically, it means its praised security is nearly worthless.
Thats one BIG training area on the Speranza, but I thin kwaht I find really impressive is the way they can mock up/construct virtually any sort of enviorment for training at the drop of a hat, implying considerable resources and construction capability even aboard ship
Which leads to big question just why someone in Dark Age of Technology needed it built into ship, as it was supposed to be a peaceful era. Also, that's so two-dimensional thinking - how exactly IG is supposed to use their mortars/artillery there without making a big hole in the ceiling?
A 'prototype' Rhino. Despite the fact it hasn't been officially sanctioned for general use, it doesnt stop the AdMehc from appropriating it for their own use. One set of rules for them, and one for others.
Meh, it just sounds like someone borrowed dual-heavy bolter doors from some other Rhino/Predator variant. What's so special in that, again?
Also 'hundreds' of the planets reactors going up (and of unknown nature) equals continental destruction, which may tell us something about power generation/fuel storage on said Forge worlds. Indeed the entire planet is basically destroyed in the process of widespread devastation. Which the Speranza survives, incidentally.
These were glorified reactor meltdowns, though. Any modern battle tank can survive nuclear reactor meltdown, in fact, contamination of lower decks is big point for Speranza having rather crappy defence. Did the writer heard about such rare phenomenon as 'stars', which throw around far more radioactivity than any melting reactor can?
Archmagos multitasking. Seems to be a consequence of their augmetics and general brain arhcitecture, and in many ways its pretty impressive - able to handle 100+ such divisions/compartmentalizations whilst retaining a non-trivial part to maintain his own sense of identity. And again its interesting for the sort of quasi-automation analogue it provides - the ship's various systems/components DO have significant guidance.
That would be impressive if it wasn't just equivalent of someone glancing on any flashing icon he/she had minimized to tray bar :P
AdMech can via augmetics control their sleeping functions.
I can do that too. It's called 'alarm clock' :P
Makes sense. We know the warp can fuck with the inorganic as readily as the organic, up to and including physically warping solid matter or just 'jinxing' the operations of devices, so that the ship's function smay be messed with by the warp isn't all that surprising. It actually helps to heighten the whole 'danger' thing in many situations, as you can't ever be 100% sure your systems will be repairable or something vital might fail.

Might also be why Ethereals have a point with their total Warp technology ban.
Automatons/mechanicals seem to be okay as long as they are stupid it seems. Or at least very much clockwork, although this one seems to have some awareness/funciontality rather than just a toy (it can notice/react to things.
I always wonder how the writers imagine clockwork computers to work. Outside of what most of them probably thinks, 'magic box' since they failed their hard science lessons :wink:
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Re: 40K AdMech novels discussion thread

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Looking to wrap up Priests of Mars so I can move onto Lord of Mars. I have another IG novel (Iron Guard) to cover, plus Imperial armour 12 still to break into. And I'm thinking of starting Only War, which will take some time to plug through (my IG bias showing there.) So dual updates again.



Page 138
" I want to see what lies beyond the Imperium’s borders, to see wonders that no other man has known and to sail by the light of stars that shine on worlds that know nothing of the God-Emperor."
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" To venture into the Halo Scar, to go beyond the guiding light of the Astronomican? That is to sail in uncharted and unremembered space. Treacherous seas indeed."
Suggesting the Halo Scar is beyond the range of the AStronomican. Given we're talking a good 60,000+ LY or so, that is a considerable range to cover. If we figure that Segmentum PAcificus and half of Solar comprise 30,000 LY or so, we might figure 30-40K LY to go 'officially' beyond the boundary of the Imperium.
It is possible, however, that this means the Halo Scar region isn't technically beyond the beacon, but that the region it occupies (or the scar itself) blocks the signal, making it 'beyond' in the sense of being obscured, but that wouldn't quite mesh with 'beyond border's' neccesarily either (although there too I suppsoe you could argue that there are regions within the Imperium that are wild and being in those can constitute being beyond the 'borders' :P) If we figure 38-43 days to travel that distance the actual 'average' warp speed is some 250,000-385,000c. If we add in previous figures, it could go up to 450,000c possibly.




Page 138
...a long dining room illuminated by flickering electro-flambeaux held aloft by tiny suspensor fields. The walls were hung with long banners, representations of the Icon Mechanicus and
honour rolls of Cadia’s victories and its many notable Lord Generals. A holographic recording of Ursarkar Creed’s famous address to the troops at Tyrok Fields played on a loop from a shimmering projector-plinth at the far end of the room...
Suspensor-lofted lights. Also the mention of Tyrok fields suggests the novel takes place sometime after that battle, so either its taking place during the 13th Black Crusade, or at some time after. It may even be M42 by now for all we know.



Page 139
..her breath was a soothing compound of scents, warm honey and ripe fruit that took the edge off his inexplicable anger. "You are being affected by Magos Dahan’s pheromone response. Combat stimms and adrenal shunts are boosting his aggressors, and you don’t have the olfactory filters to avoid the effects of being so close to him."
I also suspect Linya was using pheremones to defuse Dahan's effect on Roboute. Its an interesting ability, and one that would possibly be useful (at least for expendalbe troops) as battlefield motivation, although its amusing in the sense that the AdMech, evne the Secutors don't quite seem to understand such things - in this case it seems merely to be a side effect of the Secutor's own modifications rather than a deliberate effect.








Page 140
"I wasn’t aware that Space Marines were immortal."
"An ill-chosen linguistic term perhaps," allowed Kul Gilad, "but no less true for all that. As our gene-seed returns to the Chapter, our biological legacy lives on in the next generation of warriors. But I sense that is not what you imply. Yes, for all intents and purposes, we are immortal. Brother Auiden is our Apothecary, but I am given to understand that our bodies experience senescence at an artificially reduced rate and that we were engineered to endure for a far longer span than less engineered physiologies."
"So you still die?" asked Linya.
"Eventually everything must die, Mistress Tychon," said Kul Gilad. "Even Space Marines, but a life of eternal crusading in the Emperor’s name ensures that few of us live long enough to discover what our span might be."
Yet again revisiting the 'immortality' thing. I swear its crazy how in one novel its true, and in another its not true.. or its 'sort of' true. I guess we can say that it could be either or both, or they may be so long lived as to be effectively immortal. Or maybe just ageless (that is they 'die' at some point, but their bodies remain at the same peak physical and mental condition throughout their lives, whereas human bodies go through growth and decline over their lifespan.)
There is of course the gene-seed definition of 'immortality' too.



Page 141
Roboute tucked into his meal with gusto, enjoying the novelty of a cooked meal instead of reconstituted proteins and brackish recycled water that had been around the Renard’s coolant systems more than once.
Shipboard 'rations' Recycled proteins (possibly corpse-related) and water that is also used as starship coolant in some form.






Page 142
A blithely handsome captain named Hawkins spoke of the valorous actions of a commissar by the name of Florian who had kept the regiment’s colours flying even after a tau fusion weapon had boiled most of his flesh to vapour in the final moments of the battle.
Heads nodded in respect to the fallen commissar, which struck Roboute as unusual. As a rule, commissars were feared and, in most cases, respected, but rarely were they honoured by the regiments over whose men they had the power of life and death.
Another reference to the Fire and Honour comic. It also goes to show that 'heroic' Commissars, despite what is stated, seem not to be all that often. They show up in the fluff plenty enough anyhow.
Also Tau fusion gun boiling a human body (vaporizing) hundreds of MJ at least.




Page 146
"We thought we had them, but it was an ambush. There were a couple of warspheres hidden in the electromagnetic soup that we hadn’t seen. They hit us hard, really hard, and took damn near every scrap of voids we had. Blue Lighter took some bad hits, but that didn’t seem to bother it, and the Praetor took a beating. The tau fleet turned about and swarmed us like angry sulphur-wasps."
"They’d hurt us, but they’d forgotten the first rule of an ambush: hit hard and fast, and then get the hell out. Navy ships are old, but they’re tough and can take a lot of punishment before they need to disengage. The tau thought they’d crippled us and they pressed the attack when they should have broken off. Blue Lighter turned and blew away two ships before they got close to us and then went for the warspheres."
"A Space Marine strike cruiser is a force multiplier not to be underestimated," said Kul Gilad.
"You’re not wrong," said Roboute. "It gutted those warspheres. They couldn’t manoeuvre fast enough and the Ultramarines just savaged them, blowing out great chunks of their structure with their bombardment cannon and then broadsiding them again and again. It wasn’t pretty, and when the tau cruisers got in close with us, we showed them that it takes more than a sucker punch of an ambush to take Imperial ships of the line out of a fight. It got scrappy and ugly, but we pinned them in place, and when Blue Lighter charged in, it was all over."
Which shows that even in the closing years of the 41st Millenium, the Tau still haven't quite managed to achieve (general) parity with the Imperial Navy, and that there are still plenty of examples of high end (Imperial) tech that outdoes tau tech. The Tau of course have their 'next gen' fleet (From Taros) that can (at least in certain ways) match the Imperial Navy, but they aren't as numerous.
Even adding the Kroot doesn't seem to help much, as a strike cruiser mauled MULTIPLE warspheres, and those are more or less battleship-scale vessels.



Page 148
"He turned us about over my strenuous objections and diverted power from the shields to the repair crews and engines."
Shield power can provide significant benefit to engines , thus it represents a non-trivial percentage of the overall power of the ship. Also, repair systems of some kind draw power and become more effective with said increase in power. It could be becauset they are machine spriit/servitors, or it may be allocated in various ways (to repair machinery, or integrity fields, or whatever.)


Page 149
"I took out my sidearm and blew his damned head off," said Roboute. "He’d killed us and he wanted to abandon his ship? I couldn’t let that stand, so I emptied my power cell into his corpse."
Roboute took a deep breath, remembering the moment he’d dropped his pistol on top of the las-seared body of Captain Mindarus.
Laspistol apparently headsplodes target in a single shot. Even disregarding that, emptying powercell (20-80 shots) into body, causing widespread burns. Figure 30-50 j per sq cm (2nd to 3rd degree burns) which is 200-500 kj for a 10,000 sq cm surface area (assume on one side only) which yields between 2.5-25 kj per shot for thermal damage. EVen if its only part of the body burnt (Say just the torso 1500-2000 sq cm) it would be 38-100 kj total, which would be 760 joules (80 shots) to 5 kj (20 shots). Single to double digit kj in other words.


Page 151
"They called themselves bonesingers, which I think meant they could fix parts of the ship when they were damaged or create new parts if they were needed. I once watched them grow a new section of hull from little more than a sliver no bigger than my fingernail. It was truly amazing."
"Fascinating," said Magos Blaylock. "I have long believed that eldar technology is fashioned from a form of bio-organic polymer that is, in its own way, alive. Their ships are essentially grown as opposed to being built."
"You always did have an unhealthy interest in xenotech, Tarkis," said Saiixek, farther down the table. "Unnatural. You forget the Ninth Law: the alien mechanism is a perversion of the True Path."
"You speak with the wilful ignorance of one who has chosen not to study the technology of xeno-species," retorted Blaylock. "And you are forgetting the Sixth Law: understanding is the True Path to Comprehension."
"The Omnissiah does not dwell within such blasphemous creations. You heard the rogue trader, their technology is grown. It is not built, it does not have the sacred mech-animus at its heart. Such xeno-species are an affront to the Imperium and the Machine-God. Rightly are they abhorred."
Description of bonesingers and their role aboard ships, discussion of Eldar technology and the composition of wraithbone. Again psychic engineering seems to be viewed, in 40K terms, as a sort of 'organic' technology, which is something we can perhaps extend to the Tyranids as well.
We also get diverging opinions on the nature of Xenos technology and the research of such. Like most religions (or anything basically human) you find people hold different views on what is acceptable/unacceptable, and the belief system can be stretched to accomodate both views.



Page 152
"The calorific content and mass-to-energy ratio of the meat and protein substitutes makes it virtually irrelevant to their digestive systems. It would be like you eating your napkin and expecting to be sated. Space Marine foodstuffs are necessarily high in nutrients, amino acids and complex enzymes to sustain the wealth of biological hardware in their systems. Were you unwise enough to eat so much as a mouthful your body would suffer an explosive emetic reaction."
Explosive vomiting, in other words. Its actually true of the Guard as well - when you have abhumans, or giants like Goliaths, Braggs, and the like, dietary requirements can vary quite a bit, and what suits one group may be unsuitable for another. Space Marine diets are just a more extreme version of that.



Page 153
"I know they’re huge balls of gas with incredibly powerful nuclear reactions at their hearts, and that it’s best to keep them as far away as possible when you’re making the translation to warp space."
Spacefarer level knowledge of Stars. The most important being they're a big navigational hazard for warp translation.




Page 153
"My father’s macroscope arrays are on the orbital galleries of Quatria, and they are amongst the most precise deep-space detection instruments in the segmentum. They measure everything from radiance levels, radiation output, radio waves, pulse waves, neutron flow, gravity deflection and a thousand other components of the background noise of the galaxy. My father mapped the southern edge of the galaxy almost five hundred years ago, creating a map that was as exacting in its precision as it was possible to be. It is a work of art, really, a map that is accurate down to plus or minus one light hour. Which, given the scales involved, is like a hive map that shows every crack on every elevated walkway."
Admech space telescopes and their detector components, and its potential accuracy.



Page 154
"Just because we can’t see something happening doesn’t mean it’s not," said Linya patiently, as though teaching basic concepts to a child. Which, in effect, she was. The properties of science and technology were virtually unknown to the Imperium’s populace. What might be basic to the point of patronising for a member of the Cult Mechanicus would be wreathed in superstition and mysticism to almost everyone else.
Which is, more or less, true. Not everyone CAN be tottally, utterly ignorant, but knowledge can be as variable as everything else in the Imperium,. and many will have some degree of ignornace about at least some things, if not most things. Knowledge is power, knowledge is dangerous, so restricting and controlling knowledge is important, especially amongst the AdMech (and by the AdMech.)




Page 154
"In simplest terms, they’d aged millions of years in the space of a few centuries."
Again the oddity of the HAlo Scar and its unusual stellar aging.




Page 156
"Doesn’t that rob you of the beauty of things? Doesn’t a planetary aurora lose its magic when you can reduce it to light and radiation passing through thermocline layers of atmospheric pollution? Isn’t a magnificent sunset just the daily cycle instead of a wondrous symphony of colour and peace?"
"On the contrary," said Linya as they made their way from the dinner table. "It’s precisely because I understand the workings of such things that they become magical. To seek mysteries and render them known, that is the ultimate goal of the Adeptus Mechanicus. To me, that is magical. And I mean magical in a purely poetic sense, before you go attaching meaning to that."
'beauty is relative'. I think its a good way of showing that the AdMech can exhibit fundamentally human traits and qualities - they just do it in their own way. It shows that whilst they are devoted to logic and knowledge and the machine over flesh, they can still find awe and wonder and beauty and even joy in something. Logic and machines does not have to mean sterile or lifeless.



Page 156
Roboute was aware of the alcohol in his system, but the filter in his artificial liver was already dissipating the worst of it.
Augmetic liver for maximum alcoholic protection! :P



Page 156
"The neural pathways of my brain have been reshaped by surgical augmetics, chemical conditioning and cognitive remapping to such an extent that the processes taking place within my mindscape do not equate to anything you might recognise as affection or love."
Again, indicators of how normal Imperials and the AdMech can differ. And they aren't minor differences - they literally think in different, even alien ways. Differences that are as much physical as philosophical. It may also even explain their phenomenal ability (by organic standards) to process and handle information.




Page 156
"I can see through you and study every facet of your life from the cellular level to the hominid-architecture of your brain. Your life is laid bare to me from birth to this moment, and I can process every angle of that existence in a microsecond. "
Again AdMech mental faculties (acquisition and processing of information) occurs at microsecond timeframes, as well sa the scope/depth they can assess and analyze a human body in that timeframe.




Page 160
The Necris system had been considered and then rejected as a waypoint, its Mandeville point too restricted in its arc of compliant onward warp routes.
Mandeville points can have limits - they not only dictate how far away from a system is considered 'safe' for warp entry and exit points, but it can also dictate the availability of safe routes through that warp. Which means that different Mandeville points can result in different warp routes, even within the same system. Its also possible for multiple mandeville points to have multiple routes, or multiple routes have multiple mandeville points.




Page 160
A wooden-framed console with a series of haptic keyboards and manual rotation levers stood at the centre of the dome’s acid-etched floor image of the Icon Mechanicus. A host of code wafers jutted from the console’s battered keypad, each a portion of data extracted from the Speranza’s astrogation logisters.
Entoptic machines held fast to exacting tolerances by a precise modulation of suspensor fields projected light into the air in such volume that it was like walking through an aquarium and hothouse combined.
haptic keyboard.. probably like a virtual keyboard only holographic (and needing a haptic interface to interact with.) Also note the entoptic machines, which I suspect are related to the information/displays that can be displayed upon the retina, and their use of suspensor fields to maintain integritytolerances.



Page 161
"The mapping spirits of the chamber are vexed by the inconstant streams of information being relayed to them. Travelling through the warp allows for no satisfaction of their cartographic urges, and like any of us denied our purpose, they do not take kindly to disruption of their routines."
"They recognise a familiar soul in you"
..
"‘I have an affinity with spirits that seek the sights of far-off shores"
Both Tychons again. Its amusing how the 'machien spirit' angle again is spoken of so real.
Which may speak to the organic/quasi-organic nature of such devices (emulating, evne in primitive ways, human nature, and thus enabling 'rapports' or affinities to develop or likes/dislikes or habits.) or it may reflect some bizarre warp-belief based phenomena.



Page 162
"The Valette Manifold station was the last known point of contact with the lost fleet of Magos Telok. It is not unreasonable to presume there is a reason this system was able to receive a Manifold transmission from Telok’s fleet. Perhaps it lies in a corridor where the gravitational fields annul one another."
...
"And I must say that I am rather looking forward to inloading the data streams from a Mechanicus Manifold station this close to the Scar. Who knows what information they might have accumulated in the last few hundred years?"
Manifold stations again, and mention of 'manifold transmissions' Again this suggests some sort of pan-galactic information/communciations network the AdMech maintains.




Page 165
Quadrupedal praetorians of flesh and steel stalked through areas too dangerous for human soldiers, implanted cannons and energy weapons firing with whooping bangs and crackling whip-cracks of beam discharge. Packs of weaponised servitors scaled the sides of buildings with implanted grappling equipment to rain down death from above with shoulder-mounted rotary launchers and grenade dumpers. Squads of Dahan’s skitarii spearheaded assaults into occupied structures, supported by Cadian Hellhounds that flushed enemy servitor-drones into the open with gouts of blazing promethium. Sentinels smashed down weakened walls to flank enemy units and provide forward reconnaissance data for the following infantry, who in turn marched alongside Leman Russ battle tanks, Chimeras and growling Basilisks.
AdMech military constructs. Praetorians, which are oddly differnetiated from weapons servitors (unless weapons and battle servitors are two different things. The latter seem to be more support/artillery platforms.) Also skitarii. Also use of servitor drones as enemy, and sentinels providing recon data.
Also the 71st is again even more combined arms than we thought -battle tanks, Chimeras and Hellhounds, and even Basilisks.




Page 166
Inbuilt refractor generators on the vehicle’s hull meant there wasn’t so much as a scratch on the Iron Fist’s paintwork.
The Rhino variant as built in forcefields.




Page 166
A number of his servitor drones lay sprawled beneath the debris, their bodies mangled and charred black by the weapons of the Cadians. The servitors’ organic matter would be burned away and the mechanical components recovered before being reconsecrated and grafted to another flesh drone. Dahan’s olfactory senses tasted the refined mix of promethium; detecting extra compounds of fossilised hydrocarbons and a rarified cellulose element that bore chemical hallmarks of northern Cadian pine.
Effect of Cadian lasfire on drones - mechanical and thermal damage. Also Cadian promethium seems to be part fossil fuel and part tree, some sort of bio-diesel I guess. It reinforces the notion that 'Promethium' is rather a range of fuels of differnet types (some gaseous, some liquid, some even solid) and that can be made up of different materials and mixes.



Page 167
"‘Do they feel pain, do you think?"
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"No, the parieto-insular cortex that processes pain through the neuromatrix is one of many segments of the brain cauterised during the servitude transmogrification process."
"Makes them bastards to fight," said Anders. "An enemy that fears pain is already halfway to beaten."
Discussion of servitors and what their mental states are like. Its alluded they don't 'feel' anything and may not even be aware, but as we see later this isn't totally true. We could evne call this a sub-plot.
Also lack of pain make them hard to fight,




Page 173
Yael spun inside Dahan’s guard and drove his combat blade up to his chest. Twin shock-blades trapped it a hair’s breadth before it plunged into his hardened skin. Dahan sent a burst of crackling force through the blades and the knife blew apart in a shower of white-hot shards of metal.
Secutor halberd with shock blades. An Astartes Knife is something like 2 kilos as per Deathwatch RPG, and assuming iron white-hot would mean bringing it to some 1500+K temp which means that it takes at least 1.44 MJ to bring to a white hot temp. Powerful weapon.
It's also mentioned in the book that each shock blade has enough electricity to stop a Carnifex's multiple hearts, and mentions discharging hundreds of volts in another reference. whether the two are related is up for debate.




Page 173
..Dahan was in motion, circling behind the fallen Templar and drawing back his halberd for what would be a beheading strike.
..
The tip of the blade was touching Dahan’s body, its madly revving teeth now stilled. Instantaneous calculations showed that the blade would penetrate a lethal twenty-five centimetres before his own blade could end Yael’s life.
Penetration of Secutor's augmented body by Astartes Chainsword in a fraction of a second (probably less than a quarter or half second)



Page 179
<Diverting power from weapons systems.> said the magos.
"No use, she’s drawing power from the shields,"
Void shields apparnetly draw (at least) enough energy to power a single plasma destructor shot. Porbalby means that weapons and void shields draw comparable power, even amongst starships.



Page 181
..Dahan dropped into the Iron Fist and slammed the hatch down after him, hoping it would be enough. Inside the tank, Dahan closed the Iron Fist off from the outside world, disabling its auspex, vox and pict feeds.
..
"Bracing," he said, shutting down as many of his own extraneous systems as he could manage in the microsecond he had left before the engine’s gun reached optimal firing temperature.
And a thunderclap of pulverising thermic energy slammed into the tank, burning through its refractor fields in an instant and melting through a handspan of ablative plating. The internal temperature of the tank’s crew compartment flashed to that of a blast furnace, and what little skin Dahan had left peeled off in an instant.
Before he could even register the pain, the kinetic blast wave of the Titan’s weapon discharge plucked the Iron Fist from the deck and swatted it like a troublesome insect.
First, the Magos reacts in a microsecond before the Plasma gun fires. Second, the side effect of firing burns through 'hand span' of ablative armour would imply some 23 cm (given the defintiions I've seen for that as a unit of energy), or almost a quarter metre of armour on the Rhino to be blasted away (of unknonwn type) and still manages to raise the internal temperature to 'blast furnace' which noted here can be between 1300-2000c (1573-2273K) The interior of said Rhino (assuming foregeworld stats) would be between 70-100 cubic metres, which would be 70-100 kg of Air. Given specific heat of air we'd be talking 1.27 to 2 MJ roughly per kg. which is between 89-200 MJ roughly inside the Rhino, after bypassing the armour and refractor fields and everything else (and the Rhino variant itself is still intact, mind!) and this is still just the side effect of firing the weapon. Nevermind the blast effect (a few psi equivalent I'm guessing, at least.)



Page 181-182
Imperial Titans were a welcome sight on any battlefield, but you didn’t want to be anywhere near them when they fired plasma weapons. The heat bleed would scour the ground for hundreds of metres in all directions, and the thermal shockwave would give anyone caught in the open a damn nasty flash burn.
Tenatively, assuming 'scour' means blast radius we're talking at least a good 10-100 tons of TNT equivalent for the backblast/thermal side effects as a minimum.. thermal burns out to several hundred metres (first or second degree at least) would be tens if not hundreds of GJ implied at a minimum, which gives us a broad indicator of the destructive effects of a plasma destructor even if on the low end (probably many times greater given differences in efficiency, but hard to be sure.)


Page 182
Hawkins braced himself for an explosion, but the vast, super-heated plasma bolt simply punched through the heavily-plated bulkhead as though it wasn’t even there.
..
A shrieking cloud of wind-borne matter blew past, and the wall behind him groaned as the hammerblow of the thermal shockwave slammed into it.
..
..the building that had sheltered them from the blast now threatened to come down and bury them alive. He and Rae scrambled away as the building came apart in an avalanche of steel and stone.
Plasma bolt punches through internal walls of the Speranza, and the explosive effects of the firing. Cadians are able to (in theory) take cover to protect against thermal and blast effects.



Page 183
Wounded Guardsmen shouted for medics, while revving Chimeras, Hellhounds and Leman Russ tanks formed defensive laagers on the far side of the ruins. Dazed Guardsmen stumbled through the wreckage, some missing limbs, others with horrific flash burns they would likely not survive, and still more with skin scorched red by the heat wash of the plasma weapon.
..
The little that had been left standing of the ruined city was gone, its prefabricated structures and multiple blocks flattened beneath the plasmic pressure wave radiating from the centre of the devastation. Lupa Capitalina shimmered in a distorting heat haze, wreathed in clouds of steam as its weapon arm vented super-heated plasma discharge.
...
Canis Ulfrica swayed in front of the larger battle Titan, its right arm and much of its shoulder carapace simply burned away.
Aftermath of firing and the side effects. Hard to calc the 'city' destruction since it was largely prefab and meant as a mockup, and most of it was demolished in the test as well. REaver titan has right arm and shoulder blasted away, which may be calable later. Also note the flash burns to some of the Guardsmen.



Page 184
As destructive as the plasma bolt loosed by Lupa Capitalina had been in the training halls, it was nothing compared to the devastation yet to come. Confined in an oxygen-rich environment without the vastness of an atmosphere in which to dissipate its heat and ionising electrons, the plasma burned volcanic as it streaked the length of the Speranza. It burned its way through the starboard solar collector arrays, shattering millions of precision-finished mirrors and melting support struts machined to nanoscopic tolerances. The brittle detonations of countless looking-glasses sounded like a glassy sea crashing on a steel shore, and the reflected heat boiled the flesh from the bones of the floating servitors whose lives were spent in keeping the mirrors free of imperfections.
Another bulkhead was sliced through with horrifying ease, the superstructure around the chamber sagging as a central tension bar snapped like overstretched elastic. In the vaulted chambers behind the solar collectors, vast capacitors, long since beyond the reach of any in the Adeptus Mechanicus to reproduce, were reduced to thousands of tonnes of scrap metal as the plasma bolt bored through machines dreamed into existence in a past age. Irreplaceable technology melted to molten slag and a thunderclap of electrical discharge exploded from the mortally wounded machinery as it screamed in its death-throes. Every metal structure within five hundred metres became lethally charged with thousands of volts, and hundreds of ship-serfs died as they were electrocuted in leaping arcs of red lightning.
The hangars of titanic earth-moving machinery fared little better, with a hive-dozer five hundred metres tall cored by the bolt. Fuel cells detonated explosively and the complex machinery at the heart of its engineering deck was flooded with volatile electro-plasma backwash. Hard rubber wheels melted in the heat, and every transparisteel panel shattered with thermoplasmic bloom. A giant crane mechanism, capable of lifting starships between construction cradles, was struck amidships, and the entire upper assembly crashed down into the hold, smashing itself to destruction on the way down and doing irreparable damage to three Goliath lifters and a Prometheus-class excavator.
And the rogue plasma bolt was still not spent.
Path of destruction lead by aformentioned plasma bolt. scraps thousands of tonnes of capacitors implied to be melted by the bolt, which if we assumed iron would be.... terajoules eaisly. Except we dont know wether some of that was discharged power from the capaciotrs, and how much was the bolt itself. And then theres the 'enhanced conditons' referenced, which I'll touch on later.
If we assume the hive dozer is at least as long as it is tall (hab block sized?) its penetrating through hundreds of metres (200-500 metres) of machine.. which is hard to calc but could be pretty destructive as it still hasn't overspent the bolt. If we assume 90% empty, and a 1 m diameter bolt through 200-500 metres you get between 124 tonnes and 309 tonnes melted which is 'only' 149-371 GJ. If its closer to 100% solid we get 1.5-3.7 TJ.
If we figure hundreds or thousands of servitors to maintain the solar collectors and each was vaporized (or the flesh was), we migth figure hundreds of megajoules call it tens or hundreds of gigajoules total estimated and that largely from side effects.
Overall we could figure high GJ to low TJ per shot for the bolt by either of the above incidents or together but.... as we learn the conditions aboard ship seem to make it much deadlier - the 'oxygen rich' atmosphere and the lack of a large planetary enviroment to act as a heat sink for the energy and ionization of the bolt. Hiow this is supposed to make it massively more destructive I'm not sure, but I'll discuss that more later, since it indicates we're dealing with the 'magical 40K plasma' phenomenon we get with many cases (like supersoaker plasma guns.)
Oh and machine struts manufactured to nanoscopic tolerances. Not as great as the 'yoctoscopic' tolerances mentioned by the Iron Warriors in Angel Exterminatus, but still pretty nifty. Oh and the fuel cells and 'electro-plasma' - which is an interesting fuel tech I thin, but its not surpising that the AdMech would have and use fuel cell technology.






Page 185
"Starboard solar collectors are gone."
The Speranza has starboard and port solar collectors for drawing power.



Page 185-186
..but Kotov desperately needed Blaylock’s statistical expertise to aid him in co-ordinating the emergency response of the Speranza.
...
Her [Linya Tychon's] inload/exload capacity adjoined his own and the burden of processing the vast ship’s needs eased with another to help shoulder the load.
...
Throughout the ship, every magos able to link with the Manifold added their own capacity to calming the wounded vessel’s pain. Entire decks echoed with binary prayers and machine code hymnals, echoing from prow to stern as the Cult Mechanicus bent its logical will to the restoration of pure functionality.
More of the gestalt-type stuffages when it comes to Imperial(admech) computer tech. In this case the AdMech can join together in a gestalt-liek way to help the functioning of the ship (such as in emergencies), or to bolster one another's ability to handle/process information. Oh and to settle the Machine Spirit of the ship, which again is given indications of being aware/sentient and even emotional (eg it can feel/respond to pain, much as a Titan can.)



Page 186
"Construction engine Virastyuk reports ninety per cent degradation of functionality." reported Magos Kryptaestrex, his sonorous voice like that of a mother listing her dead children. "Lifter Nummisto is destroyed. Rigs Poundstone and Thorsen are damaged too. Badly."
Magos of logistics discussing the aftermath of the bolt. It could be that the construction engine was the one cored, but its hard to say, and overall its pretty nasty destruction.



Page 186
"Where is the plasma fire now?" demanded Kotov. "How far has it burned?"
"It is in the aft decks, burning through the transport holds" answered Blaylock. "Integrity fields have failed, and the loss of atmosphere has helped bleed off 10^2K of plasmic energy, though the tesla strength of the bolt remains unaffected. Thirty-two per cent of our drop-ship fleet has been blown into the warp, together with forty-five per cent of the Guard’s armoured vehicles."
first "plasma fire'... which again speaks to that 'magic plasma' shit I described. I dont know what 10^2K 'plasmic energy' is meant to convey, its made up numbers or what the tesla strength is. Also note Guard vehicle losses, although it seems like its ascribed to the loss of atmosphere and integrity fields.




Page 186
"The Cadians aren’t going to like that."
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"When this is over, I will build them replacements in the prow manufactories. "
The Speranza's onboard factories can build IG vehicles.



Page 186
"Now where are my containment doors?"
"Blast containment shields are raising between sections Z-3 Tertius Lambda and X-4 Rho"
..
"There is an eighty-three point seven per cent chance they will not halt the blast and it will breach the main plasma combustion chamber."
"But they will at least dampen its force?"
"To some degree, yes," agreed Blaylock. "But given the enhanced conditions for plasma burn aboard ship, they will not stop it."
Contaiment doors may not stop plasma bolt given the 'enhanced conditions' for plasma burn alluded to earlier. Again weird effects with magic 40K plasma going on. EG its not just a relativistic beam of hot gas :P




Page 189
The crude augmetics grafted to the ogryn’s powerful frame included a binaric slave coupler that had enough faded ident-codes left to tell Abrehem it had once been Guard issue.Crusha himself had no memory of his life before coming to the dockside bar, but its seemed likely he’d served in one of the abhuman cohorts attached to a Jouran regiment, perhaps as a lifter for an enginseer.
Guard issue augmetics, at least for Ogryns.



Page 190-191
"The plasma combustion chamber above, it’s been breached"
..
The droplet of plasma fell with the accurate synchronicity of predestination..
..
The droplet struck Vresh on the very top of his steel skull and cored through him like a high-powered laser. His body flash-burned from the marrow, and blue fire exploded from his augmetic eye-lenses and connective plugs. His bones fused in an instant and gobbets of charred flesh and implanted metal dropped to the deck with a wet thud of smoking remains.
effect of a single drop of 40K space magic supersoaker plasma. Not sure what qualifies as a high poweredlaser, but its definitely at least single/dobule digit MJ for that plasma drop. Extrapolating from there, however is hard



Page 194
Throughout the ship, Kotov felt the presences of the thousands of tech-priests, lexmechanics, calculus-logi, data-savants and sentience-level servitors that made up the Speranza’s crew.
Lexmchanics, calculus-logi, data-savants and servitors who are sentient. I suspect the latter may reference 'high function' or 'multitask' servitors like mentioned in other sources (EG Eisenhorn/ravenor)



Page 194
His consciousness flowed along the path the searing bolt had traced, lamenting the needless loss of so many fine machines. The lower decks were dead, empty spaces where two entire decks had been vented to bleed the bolt of its sustaining oxygen and ionising atmosphere. Regrettable, but necessary.
..
He saw the shattered glassy graveyard of the starboard solar collector and the molten remains of the giant capacitor that stored its gathered energy. The loss of one such system would be bad enough, but to lose both was going to put a serious drain on their available power. Coupled with the loss of one of the main plasma combustion chambers, Kotov suspected the expedition was in very real danger of suffering an unsustainable energy deficit.
More on the 'enhanced plasma burn' conditions, which echoes right up there with the plasma 'combustion' for the plasma engines and reactors (whch had to have those funny cylinders loaded in on top of it.) Oxygen apparently makes the magic plasma burn hotter and more ciercely (yet ionizing atmosphere) - speaking of a chemical reaction. Which means.. its literally a plasma flamethrower/supersoaker, and the oxygenated atmosphere made it burn more intensely. Plasma guns thus shoot giant gobs of burning plasma (liquid plasma!) at the target and its supposed to be a more magical sort of flamethrower, rather than a plasma particle beam (unlike perhaps that 'subatomic' plasma pistol mentioned later. IT goes without saying that this complicates the actual calcs somewhat, as the 'enhanced burn' TECHNICALLY means the plasma weapon is capable of this devastation, but the abnormal conditions poitn to it not being normally capable in a Titan's normal planteary enviroment, Trying to figure how much more 'worse' it is in this case compared to normal is up for debate, we might say its within an order of magnitude but its really hard to say.
Also we learn again the capacitors were melted (either by the bolt, by the discharge of stored energy, or both) and that the solar collectors and capacitors (coupled with the loss of the plasma combustion chambers) drastically degrades the power generation/storage capabilities of the Speranza. Clearly, the ship runs on combustion and batteries *snicker* :lol:




Page 195
...he saw the devastated training hangar, where Guardsmen, Black Templars and skitarii fought to deal with the hundreds of wounded and dead. Confined in the pressurised environment of the hangar, the backwash of the blast had levelled Dahan’s training arena and killed a great many of the Imperium’s finest. Kotov inloaded the casualty lists, shocked by how many had died and how many were moving from wounded to dead.
hundreds wounded and dead. If we figure 2nd to 3rd degree flash burns for both, and maybe 200-500 kj per person, that means at least 40-100 MJ for flash burns alone at a minimum, and this largely seems to be a side effect of the blast (and still conservative at that.)



Page 195
Canis Ulfrica knelt before the Warlord, its right side torn away and fused by the heat of the blast that had felled it.
Ride side (shoulder/arm) torn away and fused by the plasma blast. If we figure the arm/shoulder represented aorund 10-20% of the Titan's total mass (not unreasonable) we might figure between 70-150 tonnes melted/blasted. If we figure iron composition that would be 84-180 GJ.



Page 196
" I would suggest that we drop out of warp space within the next two hours."
"How short will that leave us?"
..
.. a shimmering point of light appeared just beyond the outer edges of the system.
...
" I have calculated an optimal exit point, which will leave us fifteen days beyond the system’s edge."
"Fifteen days? That is unacceptable, Magos Azuramagelli." said Kotov. "Find another exit point closer to Valette."
..
"‘With the current drain on our energy reserves, there is no way to maintain the Geller field long enough to reach any closer with a safe enough margin of reserve."
If we figure a speed of 5-6000c at least we could figure the distance they drop out is at least a few seconds (if not a few minutes) FTL travel outside the system. Probably longer, but we know (for example) they drop out 1.5 hours later, meaning they had half an hour of FTL equivalent time to travel At a very minimum, lets figure a couple of seconds to a minute which is some 1.5 billion km (for one second, so figure 3-6 billion km for a couple) to 90 billion km. If we go with 30 minutes you get close to 3 trillion km or so.
At a few 'seconds' and fifteen days transit you get between 1-4% top travel speed, and a steady 1-2 gee accelertion depending on exact distance. If we figure its bigger (100 billion to trillions of km) velocities become much higher (.47c top, and 25 gees sustained accel, for around 100 billion km. Trillions is.. funky because you start getting into relativity and shit (near-c) which is getting some pretty funky timeframes due to time dilation, which makes me think we're NOT dealing with near-c travel.
Something like 100 AU would resultin 8% c top speed at a steady 4 gee accel as another counterpoint.



Page 196
"We need to return to real space and unfold the port collector to charge up the remaining capacitor. We’ll likely need to drain half the support ships of fuel and power or we won’t even reach the Halo Scar, let alone get beyond it."
Apparently the Speranza came with its own fuel supply, but ran on two giant capacitors as well (which it seems are solar powered), one for each side of the ship.



Page 199
"Whatever caused it must have been worse than than we knew. Saiixek probably decided to blow the air out of this deck to vent the plasma into space and suffocate the fire."
..
"When are you going to get it into your thick head, that the Mechanicus don’t care about our lives? We’re numbers, nothing more than that. So what if Saiixek had to kill a few thousand bondsmen just to put out a fire? "
There is a slight error in Abrehem's assessment. The Admech DO care about those lives, generally, but in more practical sense - or at least a sense that goes beyond the purely emotional/irrational, but that really isn't a whole lot better than 'don't care at all' because they're a resource/tool to be used (and even expended.) Uncaring doesn't have to mean callous (you can take good care of those tools) but it doesn't mean they have your best interests at heart either.
Although to be fair it can be said some Mechanicus don't even care about their own lives, only about what they can provide to the Omnissiah too, so one can at least argue there is consistency in their logic (although that doesn't apply to Kotov of course, or Blaylock, as both have political/power reasons motivating all this. It's actually interesting because that becomes an important point later which reflects off this earlier assessment.)
Also plasma treated as a 'fire', heightening the flamethrower analogies :P



Page 200
With perimeter security established, the enormous ship’s port flank opened up; blast shields and airtight shutters ratcheting open as the surviving solar collector emerged like a slowly unfurling sail. Complex lattices of joints, gimbals, rotator cuffs and multiple hinges expanded in a precise geometric ballet until a kilometre-wide and seven-hundred-metre-long bank of energy-hungry cells was aimed towards the shimmering light of the far distant Valettian sun.
So far from the system’s heart, the energy the collector would gather from the star would be low, but the stream of hot neutrons flowing along the length of the electromagnetically charged hull and gathered by the Speranza’s ramscoops was the main target of this harvest. Almost as soon as the collector was fully deployed, the charge levels on the drained capacitor began to climb, and the speed of that ascent would only increase as the Speranza picked up speed.
Its an odd sort of Solar collector. Rather than just EM radiation, it picks up neutrons as well. Moreover the collector isn't nearly as big as you'd think a ship that size owuld need to collect and store power but.. go figure. Mr Mcneill seems to be confusing solar collectors and what Bussard Ramscoops were meant to be (Neutrons being electircally neutral wouldn't be affected by EM Charged anythings. Of course, enither would EM radiation soo..) Overall it just seems to be a magic 'power tap' system.



Page 200
Refinery ships and genatorium vessels clustered close to the Speranza, monstrous umbilicals linking them to the Ark Mechanicus to suckle its mighty hunger for fuel and power.
(Fuel) refinery ships and power generation vessels (presumably those with atomics) replenish the Speranza's odd power generation requirements.



Page 200-201
Despite repeated attempts to locate Honour Blade with long-range auspex, deep augur scans and astropathic scrying, no trace could be found of the third vessel launched from Voss Prime.
Use of astropathic scrying as sensor device, also mention of two distinct sensor systems (augur and auspex) The difference between the two isn't known, but one might surmise from the name (or at least my guesses of such!) that augury is active, auspex is more passive. Then again they may be differnet kinds of sensors - 40K sensors have been called auspex, surveyor, augurs, all interchangably before, and they've all had both active and passive roles. :P



Page 205
In the two weeks since Lupa Capitalina attacked Canis Ulfrica, the prow forges of the Ark Mechanicus had worked continuous shifts to craft fresh weaponry and armour plates to replace the Reaver’s destroyed components. A veritable army of tech-priests, Legio acolytes and construction engines laboured on the fallen Titan, returning it to operational readiness. Such a monumental task would normally take months of intensive labour, ritual and consecration, but the Ark Fabricatus, a vast construction-engine magos named Turentek, had worked miracles in drastically shortening that time. The engine and its rebuilt parts would soon rise from the construction cradles, reborn and restored...
Indicative that with the right guy in charge, construction/repair timeframes can be sped up dramatically. Given the whole 'ritual' aspect of the AdMech, there's always room for improvement too by simply changing (or omitting) the rituals :P But it suggests that tiemframes could be reduced by many times, perhaps even an order of magnitude, in the right (lucky) circumstances, which could help explain the extreme variations in construction rates.



Page 206
..Canis Ulfrica had also lost a moderati. Tobias Osara had been vaporised in the blast that had taken the Reaver’s arm, and its second moderati, Joakim Baldur, had been badly wounded. His right arm and a portion of his skull were encased in dermal-wrap and his burned skin replaced with vat-cultured grafts.
Suggesting at least triple digit MJ outputs (bare miinimum)f or the plasma weapon. Of course given everything else that happened and the fact this probably would have been a side effect alone of the attack, its a drop in the bucket compared to the ovrall firepower.
Also vat-cultured skin grafts and dermal wraps.



Page 206-207
.. Elias Härkin, whose pathogenically-ravaged frame was completely encased in a latticework exoskeleton of brass and silver.
...
Atrophied facial muscles twitched as the electrode stimulators that compensated for his cerebrovascular impairment and allowed him to speak fired a series of test signals. Like most princeps, Härkin loathed being removed from Vilka, and his artificially-motivated body moved with a stilted, hunched-over gait..
An augmetic exoskeleton to provide ambulatory motion. Its not quite power armor, but close enough, and it shows that such technologies aren't always restricted, only certain applications are. (Which can explain the Thundersuit/exoskeleton regimental troops from Fire Caste.)



Page 209
The Valette Manifold station hung in the darkness of the system’s edge like a patient arachnid waiting for unwary prey to become trapped in its web. Its bulbous central section was dark and glossy with ice, and numerous slender limbs extended from its gently rotating central hub; manipulator arms, auspex, surveyor equipment, monitoring augurs and psi-conduits. Though still hundreds of thousands of kilometres away, the Speranza’s prow-mounted pict-feeds brought its image into perfect focus.
Extenral apparatus of the Manifold station, and its distance from Speranza.




PAge 210
. Their work was highly detailed, but the thousands of years of accumulated immatereology statistics within the Manifold station would greatly aid their cartographic equations.
Immatereology. :P Warp meteorology!


PAge 210
..Kotov kept finding his gaze drawn back to the Manifold station. Six hundred metres wide at its central bulge, and three hundred metres high, the station was a mote in the galactic wilderness, almost invisible in the darkness.



Page 210
"Time to intercept?" he said, throwing off the ridiculously organic notion of being observed.
"Three hours, fifteen minutes, archmagos."
If we figure (roughly) 200,000-1,000,000 km in 3 hours you'd get a constant accel of .3 gees and 17 km/s average velocity. At 1 million km, its 85 km/s and 1.5 gees.


Page 212
..Kotov made a complex haptic gesture, and a contoured bucket seat emerged from an irising deck plate beside the rogue trader. Surcouf swept aside the tails of his long coat and sat down, unspooling a thin length of insulated cable from the concave headrest. Taking a moment to find the socket under his hair at the nape of his neck, Surcouf slotted home the connector rods and engaged the communion clamp. His body twitched with the system shock of sudden inload, but he relaxed with the quick ease of an experienced spacefarer.
Roboute's MIU implant connections.



PAge 212
"The station is manned by a magos, five technomats, a troika of astropaths and a demi-cohort of servitors."
Manifold station personnel.



Page 212-213
"The last contact with the Valette station was eighty standard Terran years ago, when Magos Paracelsus was routed from forge world Graia to relieve Magos Haephaestus as part of the routine cycle of command. Paracelsus exloaded his docket of arrival as scheduled."
"I assume Haephaestus returned to Graia?"
...
"Unknown," he said at last, loath to make such an admission. "Records concerning the magi subsequent to their postings to Valette are incomplete."
..
"You mean you don’t know what happened to any of them?"
"In a galactic-wide arena of information it is not unknown for some data to be... lost in transit."
Again indications that the Manifold stations represent some sort of galactic-scale communcations network exchanging information with one another and forge worlds and such. The AdMech version of astropathic relay stations, basically.



Page 218-218
It was all right for the Templars, locked in restraint harnesses and sealed in their heavy, self-sufficient plate armour. They’d survive decompression, but the sixteen men of the 71st wouldn’t be so lucky.
Even in bulky hostile environment suits, the Cadian Guardsmen were too slight to be secured..
...
Penetrating the Speranza’s neutron envelope made for a bumpy ride, and Hawkins felt his teeth rattling around his jaw as another rogue gravity wave slammed them to the side.
The riptide graviometric fields that surrounded the Speranza made it impossible to dock directly with the Valette Manifold station...
REference to weird neutron and gravitational fields surrounding the Speranza (origin and nature unknown) and the fact there are 16 Cadians accompanying the boarding party, all in hostile enviroment suits. despite evidently being self enclosed, they do not provide perfect protection against space/airless enviroments (hence decompression being dangerous.)



Page 220
"No, this is just a perimeter system, not the central data engine. The schemata for this station indicate that its core administrative functions were controlled by a heuristic bio-organic cybernetic intelligence."
"A thinking machine?"
"Certainly not," said Kotov, the idea abhorrent. "Simply a cogitating machine that could have its functions situationally enhanced with the addition of linked cerebral cortexes to its neuromatrix."
"So this is an element of that?"
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"In the same way that your hand is a part of you, Captain Hawkins, but it is not you. Nor is it aware on any level of the greater whole of which it is part. In truth, such machines are rare now; their employment fell out of favour many centuries ago."
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"The machine’s artificial neuromatrix often developed a reluctance to allow the linked cortexes to disengage and diminish its capacity. The tech-priests could not be unplugged without causing them irreparable mental damage. And if left connected too long, the gestalt machine entity developed aberrant psychological behaviour patterns."
"You mean they went mad?"
"A simplistic way of putting it, but in essence, yes."
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"The Fabricator General issued a decree six hundred and fifty-six years ago stating that all such machines were to have their linking capacity deactivated. Only the most basic autonomic functions are permitted now."
The operating system of the Vanette Manifold station. I like how 'thinking machine' and 'cogitating' machine aren't the same thing, but its largely semanitcs, as they think of 'thinking machine' as being artificial life, whilst cogitating is organic (or rather bio organic cybernetic intelligences.' - a neuromatrix with additional cerebral cortexes of some kind. And again it points to some sort of 'gestalt' linking it into a larger 'organsim' (the 'hand being a part of the body' way.)
We also learn the neuromatrix is artificial in some way, and I'm guessing the cortexes might be referring to techpriests (by Kotov's subseequent comments) - basically its a quasi-organic (or artificial) machine that is linked to and guided by cybernetic/organic techpriests to enahnce its processing. Given what we discover about Galatea later, this is pretty freaking hilarious and a bit of hypocrisy given Kotov and the other Admech's reaction to it.
Also we learn that they don't discard dangerous technology, but simly reduce its capacity/function to keep their biocomputer from going mad. :P



Page 221
Dangling punch-card prayer strips attached to its base fluttered in the pressure differential..
Its the AdMech, so you have to have punch cards somewhere in the process. :P



Page 222
" I’ll take Squad Creed, Rae, you take Kell. "
Sixteen Cadians, in two squads. Whether it is standard for them to use 8 man squads, or if this is a result of combat attrition (or maybe just an in-the-field 'unofficial' practice) we don't know. Heck it could be a combination of those factors.



Page 223-224
Hawkins flipped down his helmet’s visor and the hallway before him was suddenly splashed in a haze of emerald light, with his rifle’s targeting reticule painting a bright smear on the curved wall ahead of him.
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...Hawkins wasn’t about to lower his rifle until they did. He kept the aiming reticule centred over the servitor’s skull, a thick hunk of bone and flesh that seemed to squat on the servitor’s shoulders without a neck. It was hard to make out much detail through the blurred nightsight visor, but there seemed to be something fundamentally wrong with the proportions of the servitor’s skull.
The 71st seem to have some pretty sophisitcated night vision gear part of their helmets, as well as some pretty fancy scopes - either the targeting sights show up only in night vision, or the reticles are projected onto helmet visors (or both). Either way its pretty sophisticated vision and targeting modes for Guard troops.


Page 224
...the ignition of a bolter shell filled the corridor with noise as Tanna’s round blew the top of the servitor’s skull clear, leaving only a sloshing, blood-filled basin of pulped brain matter.
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"Servitors may be physically resistant and feel no pain, but even they struggle to be a threat without a head."
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The servitor was an ork.
Astartes bolt shell headsplodes an Ork servitor. Given that those same bolts are mentioend to pulp chests, and the fact Ork heads are (given the differences in size/mass of Orks and humans) almost torso massa nyhow, this is probably not terribly surprising.
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Page 225
Hawkins had to fight the ingrained urge to draw his pistol and put a pair of bolt rounds in its chest to make sure it was dead.
Interesting he has a bolt pistol round, yet employs his lasrifle.



Page 226
Instantly, Hawkins’s ear filled with squalling bursts of shrieking static, and he wrenched the vox-bead out with a grunt of pain.
Hawkins has a vox bead. Whether the regiment as a whole does we don't know, but we know from Gunheads its not unusual for officers/NCOs to have the comm beads but the regular soldiers don't, as most of them would be used to working inside/operating vheicles and could thus use the vehicle comms. As the 71st seems to be a primarily armoured regiment with some mechanised/infantry and artillery support, we can assume they followed the armour practice we remember from Gunheads.



Page 226-227
In the lower reaches of the Manifold station, a thermal generator spooled up with an ultra-rapid start cycle, utilising a series of linked machines that encircled the station’s inner circumference. Each of these linked machines had been developed from technology designed to rouse the plasma reactors of battle Titans to full readiness in the shortest time possible. An almost complete STC discovered by Magos Phlogiston less than half a millennium ago had described the construction of such ‘kick-starters’, but its missing fragments had contained the information required to prevent such devices from driving their reactors into uncontrolled critical mass in a matter of seconds. Thus the designs were archived instead of being put into production.
The Valette kick-starters bore all the hallmarks of Phlogiston’s recovered STC, but were fitted with a series of inhibitors built to a design that no analyticae would find in any forge world’s data repositories or even the most comprehensive databases of Olympus Mons. Only one son of Mars had the nous to craft such devices, and he had destroyed every trace of their design before leaving the bounds of galactic space.
Part of Valette stations' power generation systems, although despite the odd phrasing I suspect that the STC data had missed fragments pertaining to safety (not pushing reactors to critical mass) which meant they couldn't be implemented safelty, until Telok did so. I think this is meant to convey that Telok is a radical, and to contrast between him and Kotov and his band. :P



Page 227
Within ninety seconds of Tanna’s bolter shot, the power systems for the Valette Manifold station were operating at full efficiency. The fierce thermal reserve coursed around the upper and lower reaches of the station with virtually no heat loss via a series of ultra-insulated pipes that threaded the walls, floors and ceilings like a circulatory system.
Is this part of STC tech, or is it something that the radical magos Telok installed alongside that Galatea thing we learn of later? The previous quote would imply a bit of both, although only implemented successfully due to Telok. It could mean the Imperium has access to highly efficient power transfer systems though.
Given its links to Titan plasma reactors, we can also infer they can power up to full within a similar timeframe (probably starships too.)

Page 229
The Black Templars marched backwards in perfect unison, firing a thunderous volley of bolter fire back down the corridor. The mass-reactives barely had time to arm before detonating within the hard flesh of the greenskin servitors. Explosions of meat and bone erupted across the front rank of enemies, gaping wounds that would reduce a mortal body to bone fragments and vaporised blood, but which only staggered the robust physiology of the greenskins.
Effect of bolt fire, basically enough to blow apart a human. Whether this is a single shot or burst of shots we don't know, but its impressively powerful and consistent with other depictions.



Page 230
Ork resilience and servitor immunity from pain was combining to make these enemies near impossible to put down unless taken apart. Cadian and skitarii fire augmented the shooting of the Space Marines, but it was the mass-reactives that were doing the bulk of the killing.
Ork servitors are even worse than regular servitors. Or Regular Orks. Given that 'taking apart' can include headsploding them, saying they need to be blasted apart is probably ab it of exaggeration.



Page 230
Moving back to a better shooting position, Hawkins fired a three-round burst at the nearest enemy, a brute with an iron-encased skull and a series of hideous surgical sutures zig-zagging their way across its thick features. His shots all struck home, burning through the centre mass without effect. Another deafening roar of bolter fire slammed the servitors, blowing the limbs from more of them. Hawkins shifted his aim, took a breath and squeezed the trigger twice.
His first shot punched through the nasal cavity of the ork, the second vaporised its eyeball and cored through its skull to the brain cavity. The hunk of organic matter that animated the ork cooked to burned meat in the enclosed vault of its cranium, and the cybernetic abomination dropped without a sound as its brain functions were sheared.
Lasgun discharges a three round burst, whether that was with a single trigger pull or multiple we dont know. Shots penetrate through Ork torso with little effect (figuring orks are 1.5-1.7x wideer than humans) that might be 5-10 kj for those penetrating shots. Two shots to burn/cook the Ork brain - if we figure several hundred sq cm (200-300) and 3rd degree burns (50-100 j per sq cm) you get between 10-30 kj total, 5-15 kj per sot. IF we figure it scaleded/boiled the brain (figure 1.4-5kg for ork brain.. conservatively assuming human brain on one end, and ork brain several times larger than human on otther) you can figure at least 200 kj up to 1.3 MJ (for boiling) which would be between 100 and 650 kj per shot at least. Double to triple digit kj per shot again.




PAge 230
..shouted Hawkins, sighting at another servitor; one with a set of enormous bolt-cutting shears that could lop off a limb or slice through a neck with equal ease. Blasts of bolter fire threw off his aim, and his shots burned chunks of flesh from the ork’s head and left its jawbone hanging loose.
Multiple shots burn off part of Ork's head and jaw.. if we figure a 15x15 sq cm area affected and between 100-400 j per sq cm (3rd to 4th degree, the latter steam exploding flesh off bone) you get 22.5-90 kj. Whether that is single shot, or a burst of shots we dont know, but assuming 4-10 shots per second we might figure on single/double digit kj per shot.



Page 230
He rolled and saw a servitor with an implanted static-charger unleash another blast from its ad-hoc weapon. A pair of skitarii screamed as thousands of volts burned them alive inside their armour.
The lashing line of blue light zig-zagged over the width of the corridor, arcing across to one of the Space Marines. The warrior dropped to his knees, convulsing as his nervous system went into spasm and his skin fused with the inner surfaces of his warplate. The powerful energies writhed like an angry snake, catching two of Hawkins’s men and ripping them apart in an explosion of boiling blood and flashburned organs.
Electrical weapon. Figure at least double digit MJ per g uy, which gives us an idea of what can kill Skitarii or Astartes via shock.



Page 230
A flurry of bolter shells struck the servitor and tore the weapon arm from its body in a detonating flurry of bone and machine parts. A second burst tore its head off at the neck and a third opened it up from sternum to groin.
Terminator Storm-bolter probably.



Page 231
The Reclusiarch’s enormous power fist swept out and where it struck, the orks were pulped like blood-filled bags or clubbed into bent and broken shapes that couldn’t possibly live.
Power fist doing grenade like damage, except on Ork scale, meaning its probablys everal grenades worth.



Page 231
Collimated las-fire stabbed out from the Cadian rifles, and the ork servitor slumped to his knees with half its skull blasted away.
Six Cadian lasrifles blow away half the Ork's skull. Presumably single shot. Single digit kj per shot at least (2-3 KJ, recalling that Ork heads tend to be many times bigger/tougher than human heads), if we figure that its 20x20 sq cm area blasted away at 3rd to 4th degree burns (50-400 j per sq cm) we get 20-160 kj which is 3.3-27 kj per shot. If we compare it to a single bolt round (which blew off Ork head) and it had triple digit kj at least (blows apart torsos) we could figure double digit kj per shot.



Page 232
The servitor dropped with multiple lasburns searing its neck open and a pressurised squirt of blood sprayed over the walls. A second ork with a hull-plate repair cannon opened fire and one of Hawkin’s men grunted as a cylindrical void of flesh and bone was punched through the centre of his chest
some sort of rivet gun I gather. Penetrates Cadian flak, but I can't even begin to guess at the peentration requirements (other than it punches a cylindrical hole in one side and out the other.
Also, lasfire slices neck open of Ork servitor and severs some sort of artery. lasburns are cause, so lasburns can injure without cuaterization (mechanical damage, perhaps secondary flashburns creating steam explosions?)



Page 232
The four other Cadians ran with him, piling through the door as Hawkins fired a last stream of las-fire on full auto. Another servitor went down as his power cell blinked empty.
Having just lost one cadian, confirms a squad of eight (plus the two before) Also full auto drained in a matter of seconds. Which even at half power pack capacity would still be a good 8-15 shots per second.




Page 233
..putting Hawkins in mind of a medicae bay, but one that had likely been perverted to a darker purpose. He leaned out through the door and fired into the approaching servitors. He blew an implanted drill from the shoulder of a particularly fearsome servitor, but it kept coming despite the loss.
Barrage of lasfire (one second burst maybe?) blowing apart shoulder implanted drill (arm?) augmetic from another Ork servitor. Figure maybe double or triple digit kj for the burst?




Page 234
Clicking, clacking armatures with drills, scalpels, saws and laser-cauterisers, nerve splicers and bone-melders worked to amputate limbs, remove redundant organs from body cavities and otherwise prepare the host bodies for nerve grafts and replacement body parts.
Overhead cradles transported bionic limbs, organs and cranial hoods for implantation, like an automated manufactorum producing armoured vehicles on an assembly line. The hanging spider-machines attached the new parts with relentless machine efficiency, each attachment accompanied by a tinny burst of recorded binaric chanting and a puff of incense vapour from an inbuilt atomiser.
Apparently its an augmetic/servitor implantation bay, but it may also be a medical bay. Its interesting mainyl for the automation and the analogies to automated manufactorum (which presumably exist if they can be used as a comparison.)




Page 235
"Vat-fresh synth-skin," he said. "Ideal for burn victims or those in need of reconstructive surgeries. It is not normally grown in such quantities, but the quality is excellent."
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That it had been grown and not cut from living bodies didn’t make it easier to take...
The Imperium uses vat-grown skin, which is apparently what 'synth skin' is, for medical purposes - reconstructive surgery, covering augmetics, etc. Although thta doesnt rule out quasi-organic 'synthskin', since 'variable' is the watchword of 40K (esp the Imperium.)
It also goes without saying that if they can 'vat grow' servitor components, body parts, or skin, they probably can vat grow any sort of organic material (Such as for food purposes, for example. Synthetic meats for all! Can't be any worse than corpse starch.)



Page 237
The first servitor reached the top of the stairs, and it was Archmagos Kotov who took the first kill. A pencil-thin beam of retina-searing white light speared from his pistol and burst the cybernetic’s head apart in a fountain of steaming blood.
Plasma pistol headsplodes Ork serivtor. Given Orks are many times bigger than normal humans, and probably with heads as big and tough as a human torso (which is borne out by the previous comparison to an Astartes Bolt round effect) we can infer that Kotov's plasma pistol does grenade (or bolter) level damage.



Page 237-238
Hawkins’s Guardsmen took their shots at the third cybernetic as it climbed over the bodies ahead of it. Hawkins’s shot blew out its lower jaw, while Manos removed the lid of its skull with a shot through its fleshy ear canal. Impact shock caused Paulan to miss, and Ollert’s shot took the servitor behind in the throat. Blood sheeted down its chest, but the creature kept coming.
Blowing out lower jaw and blowing off top of the skull.. call it high single/low double digit kj per shot for thermal/mechanical damage.



Page 238
Ollert rolled upright and levelled his rifle at the flamer servitor, and was instantly hurled back as a high-velocity rivet blew out the back of his helmet.
Rivet blows out head and helmet. Again hard to calc since we dont know the effect,s but its enough to send the guy flying backwards arguably.



Page 238
Manos gathered up Ollert’s power cells and tossed one each to Hawkins and Stennz.
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. Hawkins and Manos concentrated their fire on the flamer servitor, and succeeded in putting it down with a concentrated burst of full auto that emptied both their power cells. Stennz fared better, her shots fusing the metal skullcap of another rivet gunner and causing it to lock up like a statue.
..
He ducked back into cover to replace his spent power cell.
Again powercells drained rapidly on full auto (matter of seconds given both sustained bursts down Ork servitors) Presumably these were full powercells, so we might figure double what I previously guesstimated. Interestingly, since it was mentioned earlier that only by taking the orks 'apart' can you stop them, we might figure it took at least half a MJ (just accounting for burns) to several MJ (burn severe enough to explode flesh off bone, or sever bone) to do damage. at 100 shots that would be between 5-20 kj per shot roughly in a matter of seconds.
Also fuse a 'metal skullcap' on top of Ork by unknown number of shots. If we figure a 5mm thick cap 25x25cm you get between 1-2 kg potentially.. call it half that and its .5-1 kg, which would yield between 600 kj and 1.2 MJ discharged. Whether thats full auto or just a partial burts we dont know. If its full auto and we figure 100 shots again thats between 6-12 kj per shot.



Page 239
Searing arcs of crackling energy chased them and only programmed self-sacrifice kept Archmagos Kotov alive as two of his warriors hurled themselves in the path of the killing whip of electro-fire. Their bodies burst into flames and were ashes in seconds as the hammer-wielding ork strode towards the survivors.
More Ork servitor weaponry. Cremating Skitarii is probably somehwere in the double/triple digit MJ range at least (they're not fully human due to augmetic enhancement., but they also tend to be large, bulky humans augmented too.)



Page 240
He drew his Executioner, the Cadian combat blade of the discerning knifeman..
Cadian Combat knife, but its properties are effectively unknown. From what little I've seen of the Fire and honour comic online, and assuming the guy I'm guessing at being Hawkins (he keeps it sheahed on his chestplate) I'm guessing its an 8-10" blade, which makes it roughly as large as a Tanith Warknife (well the non-cubit blade ones) or a real life Bowie knife (the large ones)



Page 241
It had been a hard fight, and had looked like it was going to be one he didn’t walk away from. Strangely, the thought didn’t concern him overmuch. On Cadia, children were taught to live with thoughts of their own mortality from an early age, which made for bleak childhoods but fearless soldiers.
The Cadian mindset. Its interesting because the Colonel, Anders, notes earlier in the book that just because their Cadians doesn't mean they aren'f ones toa ppreciate things like comfort, but they are still Cadians. Being on the border of the Eye and subjected to constant attacks hardens a person, and those who survive learn to cope with their fear (or at least live with it) Again, like with the AdMech I like how it plays on the 'Cadians are badass' crap from the codex fluff, humanising them without detracting from the essential flavour of the Cadian mindset.




Page 241
Hawkins placed the vox-bead dangling over his collar back in his ear as he heard Lieutenant Rae’s voice shouting on the other end.
...
Calm down, Rae,” said Hawkins, touching the sub-vocal transmitter at his neck. “What’s your situation? Did you come under attack?”
Again Rae and Hawkins, each leading squads, have comm beads (at least.)




Page 243
Heavily armed praetorians encased in plates of data-tight armour stood in the four corners of the room, each fitted with a variety of armaments, ranging from prosaic blast weaponry to more esoteric graviton guns and particle disassemblers.
Praetorian armaments.. exotic weaponry included. I imagine the dissasemblers are magic disintegrating rayguns.




Page 244
While his mechanical body parts awaited full restoration and consecration in Magos Turentek’s assembly shops, Dahan’s organic components had been grafted onto a temporary organic frame. Portions of the body had once been a combat-servitor’s, implanted with strength-enhancing pneumatics and muscle-boosters. Dahan’s Secutor robes looked absurdly small on its steroid-bulked body...
..
The original arms had been removed to allow for Dahan’s to be attached, and together with its heart, lungs and spinal column, they had been incinerated in the waste furnaces.
AdMech Magos who survive injury with thier (mechanical) bodies destroyed (and presumably non-vital organic bits) can be temporarily grafted onto other bodies (in this case a combat servitor).
Also combat-servitor enhancements described.



Page 245
He beckoned to a pack of chromed servo-skulls drifting in lazy orbits behind them, and they dutifully bobbed through the air to follow him. Some were fitted with picters, others with vox-thieves or binaric counter-measures, while one was fitted with a precision surgical laser that could boil a brain to vapour with one shot.
The servitor with the surgical laser is interesting, sa most weaponzied servitors usually only pack something like a laspistol or close analogue, but this would be a VERy powerful laspistol. It coudl be stronger than that, but given the limited capacity of a sevor-skull (esp to include the targeting systems, manuevering systems, etc.) it probably couldn't be much larger than a large laspistol or small lascarbine. Possibly an overly specialized, short-ranged lasweapon, but that would be it (and it still probably has to be at least several tens of metres range.) vaporizing a human brain is easily several MJ, but also suggests its more a heat ray 'laser flamethrower' type weapon. Still it shows that compact, MJ range lasweapons can and do exist, even if in limited/specialized/high end examples.
It would also mean a very compact power source, even if it has just a single shot capacity, which says alot about Imperial battery tech (comparable to chemical reactions for compactness and energy density.)



Page 246
Was this a singular entity or a gestalt composite of many consciousnesses? A biological mind augmented by technology or a mechanical mind that had achieved a dangerous level of sentience? Galatea had already passed every Loebner cognition test, but was that because it was organic or because it was self-aware?
Kotov speculates on the nature of the Galatea construct they found on The Valette Manifold station. Again it speaks considerably to the nature of Imperial 'computer' and computer-analogue tech, their (variable) definition of thinking machines, and the interactions between man and machine. And the outcome is.. it varies. We know the Machine spirits can be gestalts and they don't object to that, and they don't mind biological minds augmented by machines, but 'self aware' machines are oddly frowned upon (even though we know of a number of cases of the Imperium using such, such as the Iron Warriors warships/battlestations from 'Architect of Fate'.
Like with the disagreement over Xenos tech, whether something is good or bad in AdMech eyes seems to be entirely subjective, if not arbitrary.



Page 247
”We are the heuristic bio-organic cybernetic intelligence originally built into the Manifold station. Evolved beyond all recognition, certainly, but we remember our birth and previous stunted existence.”
...
“We have existed a total of four thousand, two hundred and sixty-seven years,’ said Galatea. ‘Not in our current form, of course, but that was our inception date. Only when Magos Telok intervened in our system architecture did we achieve anything approaching sentience. He first enabled us to enhance our cognition with the addition of linked brains chosen from among his best and most gifted adepts. Our functionality was enhanced at a geometric rate and the combined power of the data engine’s neuromatrix soon outstripped the sum of its parts.”
..
“ Only a mind capable of ultra-rapid stochastic thinking could craft navigational data for such a volatile and unpredictable a region of space from our statistical database. And only linked organic minds have the capability of processing so vast an amount of data at near instantaneous speeds.”
Galatea speaks of itself, the duration of its existence, and its capabilities. Which again can tell us something about Imperial technology (or its analogues) and its limits/capabilities a well. It does go without saying that given what we all learn, the Galatea thingy is probably a product of a 'Radical' mindset, so its acceptability is at best borderline.
Overall it seems to be a sort of 'cybernetic' intelligence, rather than true artificial (machine) intellect.



Page 249
”The implanted neocortexes boost functionality, while the sentient machine at the heart of us exercises dominant control. On occasion, a specialised mind is required for a particular task, and will be allowed to attain a measure of self-awareness in the whole.”
I guess ti does have a sentinet machine. So its actually a combination of a cybernetic entity and machine intelligence.



Page 249-250
”You exist only by stealing the minds that sustain the sentience of the data engine at your core,” said Kotov, unable to mask his revulsion any more. “You are an insane parasite.”
“We are no more a parasite than you, archmagos,” said Galatea, managing to sound hurt and angry at the same time. “Your physical existence should have ended many hundreds of years ago, yet you still live.”
“I do not sustain my life at the expense of others”
...
“Your body may be robotic, but the blood that courses through your skull is not your own, is it, archmagos? It is siphoned from compatible donor slaves and pumped around the blood vessels of your brain by a heart cut from the chest of another living being. And when it grows too old and tired, you will replace it with another. At least the beings that contribute to our existence become something greater than they could ever have achieved on their own. We gift new life, where you only end it.”
The brains in a jar have a point, though. Recall Hawke and Abrehem and the thousands of human bondsmen (slaves) killed to preserve the Speranza after the Titan weapon malfunction. Think of the torments they were subjecte dto ‘until their debt was paid.’ The AdMech are in many ways parasites. It's also pretty amusing given that they have all that 'vat grown' stuff, they can clone even full human bodies, and yet the AdMech will rely on forcibly taken sacrifices from its own slaves to sustain its own life.
One of the big parts in this book isn't just a more interesting and positive take on the AdMech, it tries to go more 'gray area' by showing while there are some positive aspects to their society, some people who go beyond the stereotypes, it also hasn't totally abandoned the grim and bleak aspects of the setting. Like most things in real ilfe, or most human things, its a mixture of both, and whether it is good or bad (or good/evil if you prefer) can depend on where you stand.




Page 251
"We sent that message through the Manifold"
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"Telok didn’t send that message back through the Manifold?"
again the hint is that the Manifold station is part of a much larger information/message sharing network, echoing again that whole 'Transmat link' that bound together forge worlds in earlier 1st/2nd edition Epic fluff.




Page 251
”We do not understand your evident disgust. Are we not the logical consequence of your quest for bio-organic communion? We are organic and synthetic combined in flawless union, the logos of all the Adeptus Mechanicus strives for.“
“Because you flout our laws,” said Dahan. “You are no longer a mechanical device empowered by the divine will of the Machine-God, your existence is maintained at the expense of the Omnissiah’s mortal servants. You are a thinking machine, and the soulless sentience is the enemy of all life.”
I honestly admit to being confused as well. What Dahan describes can apply pretty much to any servitor (Isamel as an example), any machine spirit/cogitator incorporating organic eleements (EG brain/nerve tissue.), etc. We know its a hybrid machine, with a distinctly organic element, and yet Dahan describes it as a 'thinking machine.' Once more we seem to get the whole notion that what is deemed good/bad by the AdMech (evne within the organiztaion) is pretty relative. I mean, most cybernetic fusions (servitors, etc.) are pretty much a fusion of synthetic and organic. Heck, Kotov's on description of the Vanette Manifold's systems seems to descirbe precisely what Dahan is finding so ahorrent, which is utterly bizarre.




Page 256
”I’m not cut out for a life of trading and merchants, I’m an explorer at heart. I want to see something that’s not stamped with skulls or covered in dust or just waiting to get torn down by the next invader. All I’ve seen in this galaxy is war and death and destruction. I’ve had my fill of it, and I want to find somewhere that’s never heard of the Imperium or the Ruinous Powers or orks or witches. I want to get out of here.”
We learn Roboute's true reasons for joining the expedition. He's tired of the 'Grim Darkness of the Future' and wants to try to find some place to escape, to just explore... something I can sympathize with entirely, but I wonder if he can really find it in the 40K galaxy, no matter how far he runs.




Page 256-257
The Speranza had halted three AU from the edge of the Halo Scar, and Saiixek was already having to increase engine output to maintain their position as questing tendrils of gravity sought to pull them into the Scar’s embrace.
...
”I saw a starship. In the Scar.”
“Impossible,” said Azuramagelli, his armature flexing in irritation. “Our ships are the only vessels out here for millions of kilometres.”
distance from the edge of the Scar, and implied detection ranges for sensors (and similar apparatus) when it comes to vessels.



Page 260
A number of remotely-piloted drones had already been sent out into the fringes of the Halo Scar, some with servitors aboard, others with menial deck crews picked up by skitarii armsmen..
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.. the craft had been crushed or torn apart within seconds of reaching an arbitrary line that corresponded to the edge of the anomaly. Biometric readings from the implanted crewman fed back to the Speranza, but showed nothing that couldn’t be surmised from the fluctuating readings being processed by the data engines; pressure, heat and light readings beyond measurement.
Remotely piloted drones, with both servitor and (serf) crews (showing again AdMech 'sacrifice' lol.) The interesting thing is the telemetry - they recieve biometric readings and other readings from those scouts, which is over the aforementioned 3 AU distance. Which also shows how far they can be 'remotely piloted' as well.




Page 261
”If only you knew how true that was, you would see how blinded you have become, how enslaved you all are by your own hands and lack of vision. The truth is all around you, but you do not see it, because you have forgotten how to question.”
..
“The core tenet of the Adeptus Mechanicus is to seek out new knowledge.”
“No,” said Galatea, as though disappointed. “You seek out old knowledge.”
The Brains in the Jar again make something of a valid point. A big facet of the AdMech is that they recover the secrets of the old tech from the Golden Age of Technology, seeing themselves as actual custodians of that technology, and at least some of the AdMech (the conservative parts) see that as their only goal, and everything else is bad. We saw this before with the disagreement over Xenos technology, and in MEchanicum with the notions of research and development. That isnt to say ALL the AdMech feel that way - that they are divided and pretty diverse in attitude is part and parcel of this book, but they are also far from being the progressive, resarch-oriented race that the Tau are (for example.) What research that does occur is often done without much coordination with the Larger AdMech (or seen as heresy and expunged) and even when approved it may move at a glacial pace compared to other races.
It actually showcases a bit of the irony with the AdMech - they strive for, crave, knowledge, but in some ways they deliberately blind themselves to that knowledge as well with their devotion to faith and their arrogance. That faith is, to be fair, neccessary in a warp-steeped universe as the 40K galaxy, but it still causes as many problems as it can solve.




Page 262
Magos Azuramagelli stood in awe of the machine sentience, its physical appearance so close to his own armature-contained form that they could have been crafted from the same STC. Of all the magi, he seemed the least revolted by the idea of a sentient machine augmented by human brains, perhaps because it was a single – albeit dangerous – leap of logic for him to attempt a transfer into a mechanical body with an inbuilt logic engine in which to imprint his personality matrix.




PAge 263
The Adytum’s voids clashed and shrieked as conflicting field energies pulled at the ship from all directions and quickly-snuffed explosions spumed along its flanks as the generators blew out one after another. It appeared as though the Black Templars ship was stretching out before them, but as their closure speeds brought them up behind the smaller vessel, that extrapolation diminished.
..
Moonchild followed, its longer hull shuddering under the impact of rogue gravity waves. Portions of armour plating peeled back and spun off into space, like wings pulled from a trapped insectile creature by a spiteful child. Like the Adytum before it, Moonchild lost its voids in a silent procession of explosions marching along its length.
Extreme gravity is affecting the voids, although whether the voids block it or its just a side effect damaging the generators/projectors, we don't know.



Page 264
Bridge servitors with limited emergency autonomy assigned lower-sentience cybernetics the task of repairing those links and bringing the Speranza’s senses back online.
'lower sentience' servitors and serivtors with 'limited autonomy' - basically alot of variation in what Servitors can be capable of or aware of. Considering they're just different degrees of cyborgs (either cyborg zombies, or enslaved humans of some awareness.) this is hardly surprising.



Page 264
”Where would we be if we always played safe? What manner of Omnissiah would we serve if we did not always strive to achieve that which others deemed impossible? To reach for the stars just out of reach is what makes us strong. To fight for the things that demand sacrifice and risk is what earns us our pre-eminent place in the galactic hierarchy. By the deeds of men like us is mankind kept mighty.”
Which is perhaps more upbeat and progressive by Admech standards compared to alot of other techpriests. Of course, he's an Explorator, and thats pretty much common for Explorator mindsets, I believe.




Page 266
Centuries-old temples to manufacture were flattened the instant they separated from the ship, and hundreds of armoured vehicles recently constructed for the Cadian regiment were pulled apart in seconds. Two refineries, one on either flank of the Speranza, exploded, sending wide dispersals of burning promethium and refined fyceline ore into the ship’s wake..
Onboard manufacturing and refinery - note the promethium, and fyceline ore (fyceline seems as variable as promethium!)
Also the 71st Cadian got hundreds of vehicles constructed to replace their losses (presumably in a matter of weeks) which gives an indicator that perhaps the original strength of the 71st had been much higher than the 100 vehicles presented initially. That makes it indeed more of an armoured regiment, but with some mechanised and artillery support, which may explain why it has more vehicles compared with (for example) the Narmenians. Most of those may even be Chimeras and hellhounds.




Page 266
The Speranza was howling across every channel it possessed: binaric, noospheric, data-light, Manifold, augmitter and vox. Kotov sensed its distress along pathways even he had not known existed, and its pain was his pain
Various forms of communication/information mediums available to the AdMech. binaric is probably electronic, data-light is optical, but Manifold and noosphere are both distinctive from both, as are augmitter and vox. Some may even be 'land line' versions - we know the Manifold is the 'hard plug' cable version of the wireless noosphere, for example. Augmitter and vox may be similarily related, as may binaric and 'datalight' (cable and wireless).




Page 267
Totha Mu-32 was Vresh’s replacement, and where Vresh had been unthinking in his cruelty and uncaring in his ministrations, Totha Mu-32 was a more spiritual member of the Cult Mechanicus. He appeared to recognise the very real dangers faced by the engine deck crews and was cognisant of the vital nature of their work. Together with an up-deck magos named Pavelka and an enginseer called Sylkwood, Totha Mu-32 was working to get the engines functioning at full capacity by harnessing the devotion of the men and women in his cohorts. Pavelka was typical Mechanicus, but Sylkwood wasn’t afraid of getting her hands dirty in the guts of an engine hatch.
Conditions were still hard, but they were improving. Totha Mu-32 drove his charges hard, but Abrehem had always been of the opinion that work should be hard. Not impossible, but hard enough to feel that the day’s effort made a valuable contribution. Where was the reward and sense of pride if work were easy? How could such service be measured worthy of the Machine-God?
In this novel we've seen two different ways of regarding the bondsmen under one's care.. the brutal tyrant and the 'inspire loyalty and trust' type, of which totha is the latter. They're still slaves of a sort, of course, and the work is still hard and dangerous, but they are valued much more highly than Vresh did. So as we see, some things ca be shitty at least sometimes, but it is not uniformly so (contrasted with the codex oriented fluff where EVERYTHING IS SHIT) and this makes the novel massively better, IMHO.




Page 268-269
"‘You took a blow to the head and that rearranged bits of your brain, I think. The bits the Mechanicus shut off, they’re coming back to you. Well, some of them at least."
..
"You are right, the ship is in great pain," said Ismael, his words halting and slow, as though his damaged brain was only just clinging on to its facility for language. "We can feel its fear and it hurts us all."
..
"Who else do you mean?"
"The others," said Ismael. "Like me. I can... feel... them. Their voices are in my head, faint, like whispers. I can hear them and they can hear me. They do not like to hear me. I think I remind them."
"Remind them of what?" asked Coyne.
"Of what they used to be."
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"I’ve never heard of a servitor retaining any knowledge of its former life..."
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"I think their memory centres are the first things the gemynd-shears cut. All that’s left once they’re turned into a servitor is the basic motor and comprehension functions."
Remember that previous quote discussing whether servitors feel pain? Apparently they still have some measure of awareness - or at least the creation process is not so consistent that it totally obliterates a person's awareness... because we have an.. self aware servitor here. It is kind of scary, because to have no control over your body yet be aware of it would be.. real punishment. Makes me wonder if the AdMech might be aware of this, considering that servitorization is quite often used as a punishment.
It could also be that in some cases they just 'shut down' the important areas without destroying them, whilst in other cases the servitors have those parts destroyed/cut out/whatever. Again, variable.
We also learn that the Speranza is 'aware' and is capable of feeling pain. The interesting thing about that is that Ismael (the self-aware serivtor) can feel the ship's status, as well as feel what all the other servitors feel (And they can 'feel' what Ismael feels) there's that whole gestalt/interconnectendess going on again, which shows that servitors can be linked to or controlled centrally, and vice versa.



Page 271
”Helicon Pattern subatomic plasma pistol, lethal range two hundred metres, accurate to one hundred metres. Coil capacity; ten shots, recharge time between shots; twenty-five point seven three seconds. Manufacture discontinued in 843.M41 due to overheat margin increase of forty-seven per cent per shot beyond the fifth.”
Plasma pistol stats. Note the difference between 'lethal' and 'accurate' range, the former being twice the latter. Presumably the latter reflects some sort of 'area target' range - eg the range it could still hurt things, but would not neccesarily hit what you aim at (thus effective against a group of enemies, like a mob of charging orks, but it wouldn't guarantee a hit against a single ork charging you from that far away.)
If we inferred similar performance from other weapons, we can get 1-1.5 km 'accurate' range for lasweapons (based on lethal range of 3+ km from Necropolis, or slightly more than 2 km from Siege of Castellax as an example), or 2 km 'accurate' range for a long las (From Only in Death, Larkin's long las had a lethal range out to 4 km.)
Also we have an old plasma pistol with a looong recharge rate.


Page 274
. The ship was caught in a squalling burst of gravity from a star that appeared to be no bigger than an orbital plate or the great segmentum fortress anchored at Kar Duniash.
mention of segmentum fortress orbital plates.



Page 274
And the Blade of Voss was caught at the bleeding edge of that storm.
Plates of armour tens of metres thick were peeling back from her hull and the ship had an unnatural torsion breaking her apart along her overstretched keel.
The Blade of Voss is an Endeavour class light cruiser, and it has armour plating tens of metres thick. Whether its hull is composed of single or m ultiple layered armour plates, or what, we dont know, but its indicative yet again of some pretty hefty hull thicknesses.



Page 276
Torpedoes were spat from the prow launch tubes, their machine-spirits given free rein to engage any target they could find.
It was a tactic of desperation, but Captain Larousse had no other options open to him.
The enormous projectiles arced up and over the eagle-stamped prow and circled in lazy figure of eight patterns over its topside, the spirits caged in the warheads bombarding their local environment with active surveyor blasts in an attempt to locate a target. Most were quickly dragged off course and destroyed by the powerful gravity waves buffeting the warship, but a handful managed to lock onto the ghostly auspex return that flitted around the engines of the Cardinal Boras.
Yet even these solitary few flashed through a phantom target, a shimmering lie of a contact generated by the Starblade’s holofields. What appeared to the war-spirits as a target worthy of attack turned out to be a mirage, a transparency of capricious energy fluctuations, rogue electromagnetic emissions and trickster surveyor ghosts. Only one torpedo detonated, the others flying on for a few hundred kilometres before being torn to pieces by the gravitational forces.
Torpedoes are self-guided, at least at close ranges (hundreds or thousands of kilometres) and seem to have active sensing. Also the effects of holofields - htey mimic energy fluctiatons, EM emissions and sensor ghosts.



Page 279
And now they had lost their most powerful warship, a vessel with a grand legacy of victory and exploration.
The Cardinal Boras was the most powerful ship of the expedition, presumably moreso than the Speranza, at least before its true capabilities became known.



Page 282
Since the vox-horns had announced their entry to the Halo Scar ten hours ago..
Not sure what ‘entering’ the Halo Scar qualifies as., but if we figure that means 3 AU in 10 hours we'd be talking 150 gee acceleration and 8-9% c top speed. Not definite though.



Page 286
”Pycho-conditioned responses are kicking in,” said Abrehem, seeing Crusha’s primitive augmetics come alive with activity. “He’s conditioned to react to the smell of blood and the sound of battle.”
The ogryn’s body visibly swelled as intra-vascular chem-shunts pumped combat-stimms into his powerful physiology, and muscular boosters juiced his strength with enough adrenaline to cause instantaneous heart failure in an ordinary man.
The Ogryn Crusha, the one with the 5th generation augmetics, was a former Imperial Guard auxilia and apparently the augmetics had a combat purpose, not unlike what the Lostock Gland Warriors or some penal legionnaires might be subjected to (or the Krieg from the Cain novels) Seems like a hgher-tier sort of Ogryn compared to the usual, but not all that implausible givne the availability of resources.



Page 289
He stepped away from the daemon and unleashed a stream of explosive mass-reactives at point-blank range. Most ignited before they impacted on the creature, their warheads flashing with premature detonation in the intense heat that surrounded the monster. A few shells penetrated the brazen plates of its body, but the furnace of its interior destroyed them before they could explode.
Avatar of Khaine can destroy/ignite bolter shells before they impact, suggesting they may not always be effective. LATer though it seems like storm bolter fire does damage, so it may depend on the condition of the Avatar (or its power level.)



Page 290
A storm raged around him, a swirling hurricane of light and unnatural energies that spat and bit with searing discharges. The vast plates of his armour were proof against that lightning, but the bridge crew were not so fortunate.
He could hear them dying around him, flensed to the bone by the witch woman’s lightning storm..
Farseer’s psychic lightning. If its blowing apart people we might figure single digit MJ per bolt/person.



Page 291
...A shadow fell across him, and Kul Gilad looked up into the face of the daemon, its fiery chest buckled and torn open, but reknitting even as he watched. The mortal wound he had struck it had been nothing of the sort..
Avatar of Khaine vs powerfist.. like most Wraithbone constructs it can heal.



Page 296-297
Abrehem squeezed the firing stud.
And a bolt of incandescent blue-white light stabbed from the conical barrel to skewer the eldar warrior through its chest. The plates of the alien’s armour vaporised in the sun-hot beam and the flesh beneath burst into flame as the plasma fire played over its body. The swordsman’s scream was short and its charred remains collapsed in a smoking pile of scorched armour and liquid flesh.
The weapon gave out a screaming note of warning, but before Abrehem could drop it, the barrel vented an uncontrolled stream of super-heated air and plasma leakage. Abrehem screamed as the flesh melted from his forearm, running like liquid rubber from a shopfront dummy in a fire. The weapon fused to the bones in his hand and devouring flames licked up the length of his arm, melting the heat-resistant fabric of his coveralls to his ruined limb in a searing flash of ignition.
..
Abrehem remained on his knees, clutching his blackened claw of an arm to his chest.
Plasma bolt immolates Eldar warleader. If we figure 125 j per sq cm flash burns (ignite burnable stuff) and ignore all the melting and liquid flesh, we might figureh 2-3 MJ to badly burn both sides. If we figure it boiled the body alive, and a 60 kg Eldar it would be 16 MJ to boil the flesh (not including armour)
If we figure Abrahem's arm was cooked simiarly we might figure a few hundred kj to a couple MJ to boil his arm (or flash burns call it maybe 300-400 kj for the whole arm at 125 j per sq cm, maybe half that for severe 3rd degree burns.) High kj to low MJ at least for the plasma bolt, and more likely single/double digit MJ. What's more, if we infer from the differences between the weapon's effects and the venting, we can learn that a plasma bolt is probably between 5 and 10x more destructive than its venting, which if we inferred to the aforementioned plasma destructior that malfunctioned, plasma bolts might be hundreds to thousands of gigajoules per shot.



Page 298
Muscular to the point of ridiculousness, his entire body was ballooned with stimms, and metal gleamed through his flesh where strength boosters and chem-shunts jutted from his intravenous network. A spinal graft encircled his pulsing chest and heat bled from his skin where integral vents had been inserted just below his ribcage.
His forearms were sheathed in bronze, and instead of hands he possessed masses of dangling, twitching flail-like whips. They writhed like the tentacles of a squid, coated in blood that hissed and evaporated in the electrical heat.
The man’s head was encased in metal that was part helmet, part implanted skull plates. A circular Cog Mechanicus of blood-red iron was stamped into his forehead and the skin of his cheeks was tattooed with what looked like scripture. His teeth were bared in a rictus grin of slaughter...
..
The electro-flails sparked and danced as they trailed on the metal deck.
..
The bloodstained slaughterman stopped in front of Abrehem and he felt the flicker of its fealty optic scanning his eyes.
..
Corpse-breath sighed from between its polished steel fangs as it knelt before him with its head bowed.
Arco-flagellant. The context is that Abrehem wakes the creature, and it slaughters the Eldar. It recognizes him as its master the 'fealty optic' being an indication of that. Its interesting (but unsurprising) that the AdMech might use Arco-flagellants in some fashion, even though they most often seem associated with the Ecclesiarchy.



Page 299
He reclined in the command throne, warming up the Speranza’s weapons systems and diverting power to the gunnery decks. Without shields, there was a concurrent increase in available resource to allocate to the guns, but without anything to plot firing solutions, they might as well shoot blindly into space and hope for the best.
Again shield power and weapon power seem to be of comparable magnitude, such that the avialability of power from one (in this case from shields) provides a considerable improvement in the other (the guns, in this case, although in what context we don't know.) Which is consistent with what the titan misfire indicated.
And we know that shields can also boost engine performance, which again indicates that weapons and shields both represent a non-trivial fraction of a starship's power generation.


Page 300
He saw systems flicker past his floodstream that were as alien to him as anything the most secretive xenotech might dream of in his fevered nightmares, and technological echoes of machines that surely predated the Imperium itself.
Power generation that could harness the galactic background radiation to propel ships beyond lightspeed, weapon-tech that could crack open planets and event horizon machines that had the power to drag entire star systems into their light- and time-swallowing embrace.
All this and more dwelled here, ancient data, forgotten lore and locked vaults where the secrets of the ancients had been hidden. In this one, fleeting glance, Kotov realised he had been a fool to drag this proud starship into the howling emptiness of space in search of hidden secrets.
The Speranza was the greatest secret of all, and in its heart it held the truth of all things, the key to unlocking all that the Mechanicus had ever dreamed. Yet that knowledge was sealed behind impenetrable barriers, bound in the heart of the mighty vessel for good reason. The knowledge of the Men of Gold and their ancient ancestors was encoded in its very bones, enmeshed within every diamond helix of its structure.
Ah we learn the secret of the Ark Mechanicus. Its actually older than we think, its sentience alot more powerful, and containing far more secrets than previously assumed, all hidden. And what technologies. Apparently it has something like the Lensman-verses 'cosmic ray' collectors, or some sort of ZPE/power tap, 'planet cracking' weapons (which could mean just planet killing, or mass csattering, or something similar) and star system destroying black hole weaponry. Oh and FTL travle (which is interesting considering that Linya suggested such was impossible. The Speranza represents the culmination of everything Kotov and the AdMech hope to find - the rediscovery of the Golden Age of technology (and the Men of Gold... another interesting reference.) Funny though that those 'secrets' are implied to be something dakr and terrible which is why they are hidden (why the Speranza was hidden) and the tech locked way. Ominous.
The interesting mystery is that the ship implies its consciousness/essence exists far beyond the confineds of the Speranza, which puts me in mind once again of the Akashic Reader and stuff like that from Mechanicum.



Page 304
Systems Kotov had never known existed were activating all over the ship and those that had previously been rendered blind and useless by the fury of the Halo Scar returned to life as though they had never been afflicted. Looping targeting arrays for weapons he had never imagined the Speranza possessing and others that he did not understand flashed up before the astrogation and engineering hubs.
,,
Stark against the red of the main display, the image of an alien starship resolved itself
..
Its image flickered and danced as though attempting to conceal itself like a teasing courtesan, but whatever matrices were at work in the heart of the Speranza saw through its glamours with ease.
Again Speranza has some formidable and previously hidden abilities - its sensors rae so powerful that they can, despite the gravitic distortion around them, easily pierce through the holofields of the Eldar and spot them, as well as other weaponry.



Page 305-306
”Multiple firing solutions have presented themselves to me, archmagos. I am unable to ascertain their source or the nature of the weapon systems, but they all have a lock on the alien vessel.”
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A vast gun tube rose from the angled planes of the Ark Mechanicus like the great menhir of some tribal place of worship being lifted into place. Power readouts, the likes of which had rarely been seen in the Imperium since before the wars of Unity, bloomed within the weapon and a pair of circling tori described twisting arcs around the tapered end of the unveiled barrel.
Elements of the technology that had gone into their construction would have been familiar to some of the more esoteric branches of black hole research and relativistic temporal arcana, but their assembled complexity would have baffled even the Fabricator General on Mars. Pulsing streams of purple-hued anti-matter and graviton pumps combined in unknowable ways in the heart of a reactor that drew its power from the dark matter that lurked in the spaces between the stars. It was a gun designed to crack open the stately leviathans of ancient void war, a starship killer that delivered the ultimate coup de grace.
Without any command authority from the bridge of the Speranza, the weapon unleashed a silent pulse that covered the distance to the Starblade at the speed of light.
But even that wasn’t fast enough to catch a ship as nimble as one built by the bonesingers of Biel-Tan and guided by the prescient sight of a farseer. The pulse of dark energy coalesced a hundred kilometres off the vessel’s stern and a miniature black hole exploded into life, dragging in everything within its reach with howling force. Stellar matter, light and gravity were crushed as they were drawn in and destroyed, and even the Starblade’s speed and manoeuvrability weren’t enough to save it completely as the secondary effect of the weapon’s deadly energies brushed over its solar sail. Chrono-weaponry shifted its target a nanosecond into the past, by which time the subatomic reactions within every molecule had shifted microscopically and forced identical neutrons into the same quantum space.
Such a state of being was untenable on a fundamental level, and the resultant release of energy was catastrophic for the vast majority of objects hit by such a weapon. Though on the periphery of the streaming waves of chronometric energy, the Starblade’s solar mast detonated as though its internal structure had been threaded with explosive charges.
Chrono weapon. The antimatter parts and black hole technology (gravitonics) seem to be unsurprising, as is the reference to those being breanches of research familiar to the AdMech (but the applications here still baffling - eg Lost tech.) that creates a black hole AND some wierd time/space muckery that results in ordinary matter becoming unstable and becoming explosive (hence the Eldar solar mast blowing itself apart.)
That said, the Eldar ship is able to presciently (due to Farseer intervention) evade the attack, so the sensors/weapons are not FTL in and of themselves, nor do the chrono tech weapons themselves affect such accuracy.
It does establish (yet again) the Imperium is aware of and familair with antimatter (and perhaps antimatter tech) at least in some limited manner.



PAge 306
Mortis Voss let fly first, with a thirty-strong battery of warheads aimed in a spreading net that would make escape virtually impossible.
30-strong 'torpedo' barrage. Whether those are literally torpedoes in the sense we recall, or they are submunitions (unlikely, Gav Thorpe is the 'torp submunition type) or perhaps small missiles conflated with torpedoes, we don't know. It could even be that not all torpedoes are the same. we've known them to be as small as 100 tonnes to upwards of several thousand. I suppose you could have lots of small (100 ton) torpedo launchers, or very few large (thousand ton) launchers.



Page 307
n the end it took another six days of sailing and the loss of seven other vessels before the forward element of Archmagos Kotov’s Explorator Fleet finally breached the gravitational boundaries of the Halo Scar.
If 6 days at 3 AU (plus the ten hours) it would be 1800 km/s max velocity and less than a gee of sustained accel to cover that distance. Counterbalances perhaps the 10 hour timeframe before.



Page 307
Of the other four, a forge-ship, a solar collector and two fabricatus silo-ships, nothing was known.
Some of the power ships must have been solar power collectors independent of the ones the Speranza itself had. Also mention of indepentnt forge (factory) ships and similar .



Page 309
Advance servitor-probes fired into the outer reaches of the system had provided a more detailed rendering of Katen Venia..
More servitor-probes.



PAge 309
The planet was still ten days distant, but seemed so close that they could just reach out and pluck its diamond brilliance from the heavens like a jewel of radiant light.
If we assume osme 10-40 AU away (billions of km basically) you might get between 1-3 gees sustained accel, and 1-4% of c max velocity. If it closer (and it could be, the planet is on the edge of the system and we dont quite know where the Speranza and its forces come out) it could be lower.




Page 313
”That weapon was six hundred years old and its power cell didn’t have so much as a pico-joule left in it. And its plasma coil had corroded so badly that it should never have fired at all.”
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“You are Machine-touched. The Omnissiah watches over you and a spark of his divine fire moves within you.”
We discover Abrehem has by virtue of his augmetic gifts, various efforts to save the crew (culminating in the activation of the Arco-Flagellant and the firing of a plasma weapon that had no power) considered 'touched' by the Omnissiah, some sort of messiah figure. It reminds me (like many aspects of this novel) of things from Mechanicum - in this case Dalia Cythera. It will be interesting to see where McNeill goes with this later.
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Re: 40K AdMech novels discussion thread

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Well time to hit this back up. I'm going to go back to 'fast' blowthroughs of sources, because I'm starting to close in on catching up (at last). seems like since I slowed down its like the tide.. it gets closer, but starts to ebb slightly so I'm never *quite* done. Once I get only War and the Sabbat Worlds Crusade stuff up though, I'll probably be more or less home free and 'up to date' (and only what.. 5 years or so after starting out on this oddyssey? lol)

Anyhow, we get to Lords of Mars, the second book in the AdMech trilogy. I originally thought there would only be two, but I guess I was fooled. Lucky me :D That said, this felt more like a 'filler' book.. basically it was tying together alot more threads between the beginning and end and (hopefully) setting things up for the conclusion. We get lots more elucidation on different points, we find out a bit more about what is going on with the various people involved and what they may be hunting (and just what the Breath of the Gods may be) but thats about it. Nothing more on the Speranza itself really, but there's lots of interesting tidbits regardless.

Update will be my old 'get it all at once in multiple parts', albeit only in two parts. First is of ocurse part one.

Page 14
They are idiot children stumbling around the workshop of a genius. The tools and knowledge they require to rebuild the glory of Mankind’s past is at their fingertips, yet they see it not. They wield lethally unpredictable technologies like playthings, heedless of the damage they wreak and ignorant that they are losing as much as they gain with every fumbling step.
So much that was lost has been rediscovered, they cry, but like a million scattered fragments of a puzzle, they are useless unless combined. With all that has been hidden beneath the sands of the Red Planet, we could rebuild the Imperium as it was in the halcyon days of the first great diaspora. We could achieve the dream upon which the Emperor was embarked in the fleeting moments of peace following the Pax Olympus.
Telok's own words, for whatever import we attach to them. Its interesting that he implies that the AdMech's problem isnt so much losing tech as its hoarding of tech, and both not understanding what it hoards and the factionalism that prevents them from understanding or unifying that technology. Which is not all that improbable, given that the AdMech - liek any Imperial faction - has variable progress due to that dual-edged sword of its own nature.



Page 19
Barely worthy of being designated a planet, the doomed world hung in the fringes of Arcturus Ultra’s rapidly diminishing Kuiper belt at the farthest extent of the star system.
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The Oort cloud had thinned to the point of vanishing altogether, allowing the vessels of the Kotov fleet to approach the system without fear of taking damage from the debris scattered like celestial litter at the system’s edge.
This would suggest starships emerging at the 'edge of a system' would emerge out at the limit of the Oort Cloud/Kuiper belt or the closest analogue - probably some 30-50 AU (for Kuiper belt, although probably towards far end as 'edge' goes, although some orbits can go several times that apparently. Recently its been noted that Voyager has reached approximately the edge of the solar system. which suggests around a 100 AU or so distance.
The interestng thing is that calc wise this is easily 10-100x the distances I typically assume for my calcs. We might infer that the disparity in times (sometimes taking hours, sometimes days,a nd sometimes weeks) might be in some cases up to differences in distance. I mean at a distance of a few AU you could expect a transit at tens of gees to take hours, whilst at 100 AU it could take a week or more at that same accel. Although whereas in the former case it would be a few percent of c, the longer distance and time would result in something close to .2c top speed :P



Page 20-21
A mighty star-borne colossus. A relic of a time when the mysteries of technology were not shrouded in a veil of ignorance, and whose violent birth had destroyed a world. Its inhuman scale was the product of men who dared to build the greatest things their imaginations could conceive.
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Unlike the battleships built in the Imperium’s fortified shipyards, the Ark Mechanicus had not been wrought with any martial aesthetic in mind, nor had it accrued centuries of encrusted ornamentation to glorify long-dead saints or heroes of war.
...
Its outer hull was a tangled arrangement of intestinal duct-work, exposed skeletal superstructure, and ray-shielded crew spaces. Its graceless topside and its bulbous underside were ribbed plateaus overgrown with geometric accretions of unchecked industry. Refineries, ore-processing plants, gene-holds, test ranges, manufactories, laboratoria, power generators and assembly forges clung to its flanks in a haphazard arrangement that owed nothing to any design philosophies other than need and practicality.
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The vessel was nothing less than a forge world cut loose from the surface of the planet whose death spasm had birthed it...
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. At the heart of the Speranza was an electro-motive spirit formed from the gestalt conjoining of a trillion machines and more, a terrifyingly complex hybrid of intelligence and instinct that was close to godlike.
Commentary again on the implied scale and capabilities of the Speranza. Of particular note are its gestalt made up of 'a trillion or more' machines, and reiteration how its 'birth' from the forge world that held it more or less destroyed said forge world. And like most Arkk Mechanicus it seems to be as much a mobile factory as a starship. It is, also, implied to be comparable to Imperial battleships, although this certainly may not be a literal interpretation.




Page 22-23
Sylkwood wore the grey army fatigues and tight-fitting vest top of her former Cadian regiment, her broadly-built upper body permanently sheened with the oil, grease and incense of the propulsion decks that were as much a part of an enginseer’s uniform as any shoulder badge or rank pin. Functional communion augmetics made her shaven skull knotty with brutal implants, and haptic sub-dermals in her fingers and palms gave her a solid heft and a mean right hook.
...
Adara turned away to hide his embarrassment as Pavelka shook her head. "What else should I expect from an enginseer?" she said, disconnecting her feed lines from the sled.
Sylkwood grinned and said, "Hard work, foul language and hangovers that’ll cripple an ork."
Proof that not all Enginseers are stuffy old chanters. Reminds me alot of Felicia from the Cain novels, really. And she's Cadian, which only reinforcs how amusing the depiction of the Hellhounds is. :P McNeill should write a Guard novel.
On a more technical note.. the implants and upgrades are interesting, if implied to be basic, having the usual haptics and probably MIUs.




PAge 23
Little more than a heavy, rectangular slab of metal with a pilot’s compartment at one end and a repulsor generator mounted underneath, the sled was the workhorse machine of the Renard. Its engine was rated for a cargo load of sixty metric tonnes and a volume of a hundred cubic metres, though it had been a long time since it had carried anything of such bulk. It floated on a cushion of distorted air that made Roboute’s teeth itch even through the protection of his void-suit.
rogue Trader's Grav sled. Seems to be part of the ship's compelment rather than something he picked up fromt he AdMech. Also has a considerable cargo capacity it would seem.




Page 30-31
A host of servitor-crewed drones launched as the Speranza spiralled into its high-anchor position had provided three-dimensional pict-captures of the global topography, and deep-penetrating orbital augurs of the planet’s northern hemisphere had enabled Archmagos Kotov to select this particular landing site.
Servitor-operated drones, for recon work. albeit rather short ranged.




Page 31-32
The specific uniformity of the plateau’s underlying bedrock and its relative geological stability put it well within the terraforming capabilities of Fabricatus Turentek’s geoformer engines. Three colossal vessels detached from the underside of the Speranza...
...
Each was a ten-kilometre-square slab of barely understood machinery; titanic atmosphere processing plants, industrial-scale meltas and arcane technologies of geological manipulation. Like gothic factories cast adrift in space, the geoformer engines dropped through the atmosphere, their heat-shielded undersides glowing a fierce cherry red as they negotiated the turbulent storms of escaping gases.
They halted their descent a hundred metres above the ground, bombarding the site with terrain-mapping augurs to verify their position. Manoeuvring jets fired corrective bursts as serried banks of planet-cracking cannons rotated outwards in their undersides. Precision ordnance strikes smashed the frozen ice of the surface into manageable chunks with thunderous barrages as the wide mouths of furnace-meltas irised open.
A rippling haze of intense heat was expelled like the breath of mythical dragons, and painfully bright light flared from the meltas, filling the plateau with purple-edged fire. Hurricanes of superheated steam shrieked and hissed as the surface ice was boiled away or diverted into drainage channels blasted by terrain-modifying howitzers.
Chemical mortars fired thousands of air-bursting saturation shells, seeding the local atmosphere with slow-decaying absorption matter that began a cascade of alchemical reactions to filter out its most toxic and corrosive elements. Wide-mouthed bays opened on the geoformer vessels and scores of heavy-grade earth-moving leviathans were dropped to the planet’s surface in impact-cushioning cradles.
...
...the earth-moving machines swiftly demarcated the area of the landing fields and set about their work with the efficiency of an army of iron-skinned and hazard-striped worker ants.
...
Slowly the last of the ice was blasted clear and thousands of kilometres of cabling were laid to receive the telemetry gear required to tether the incoming vessels to their assigned landing zones. With the buried infrastructure in place and protected within hardened ductwork, the exposed rock was crushed and planed flat with tight-focus conversion beamers. Heat-shielding was laid over the buried technology as ten thousand atmosphere-capable tech-priests with implanted precision meltas and polishing limbs applied the final smoothing to the surface of the landing fields with ångström-level precision.
...
Within four hours, a vast square of mirror-smooth rock, six kilometres on each side, had been carved into the planet’s surface. With the basic structure in place, entoptic generators and noospheric transmission arrays were installed, as well as numerous fully-equipped control bunkers to manage the intricate and necessarily complex scheduling of incoming and departing landing craft. Defence towers were raised at regular intervals around the landing fields, each one equipped with an array of weapons capable of engaging ships in low orbit or attacking ground forces.
To enable non-Mechanicus drop ships to set down, contrasting guide lines were painted on the smoothed rock, together with conventional landing lights and active e-mag tethers.
Lengthy passage about terraforming and construction of an AdMech base in 5 hours. Breakdown of salient points:

- 3 geoformer ships identified as being 'ten kilometres square' - as I've discussed previously this implied 10 km to a side, but it could also be identified as 10 square km if you argued about it, in which case the length would probably be closer to 3 or so km on a side (still large.) and this is tiny compared to the Speranza's own not-inconsiderable mass (indeed if we figure the ship is more than 3 km wide, if we go with usual length/width ratios for Imperial space cathedrals it would easily be 15-20+ km long at least.

- Such vessels also represent AdMech terraforming capabilities, so they do have it in some limited manner both in terms of large scale ground shaping and atmospheric modification.

- 'angstrom level precision' from working techpriests. Also extensive use of meltas and conversion beamers as terraforming equipment.

- extensive command and control facilities, ground defences (including low orbit anti-ship weapons it would seem) and em guidance stuffs. All in five hours.

- Some interesting 'planet cracking' cannons to shatter the ground (nuclear yield at least, maybe?) and large scale meltas to melt/evaporate ice in a 6x6 km area at least. If we assume to at least a 10 m depth, we'd probably be talking tens or hundreds of megatons of energy delivered in far less than 4-5 hours (probably more like a matter of seconds or minutes, tops)




Page 32-33
A hundred fat-bellied landers began their descent to the surface carrying the mechanisms of planetary exploration: tech-priests and their monstrous land-cathedrals, skitarii battalions and their war machines, servitors and weaponised praetorians.
...
An airborne armada of steel and gold descended to the planet on towering plumes of blue-limned fire, a billion tonnes of machinery and men.
A hundred transports carrying billions of tonnes of equipment to the planet and the base they had just made. Yet again indication of the scale of the operations of this particular explorator group and its bases and forces. But also a distinct lower limit on the mass of the Speranza. Hell, its a lower limit on the mass of the drop ships (millions of tonnes apiece each is carrying) and they're probably less than a km long or so at that to fit them all on the landing base as well as leave room for other forces.




Page 35-36
The commander’s cab was nearly a hundred and fifty metres above the deck, but Abrehem felt no sense of vertigo; he’d worked the rigs on Joura too long for any fear of heights to remain.
The multiple arms of the lifter-rig splayed out from his control cab like the rigid steel tentacles of a high-viz squid. All ten of Virtanen’s two hundred metre arms were capable of ascending and descending, rotating through three hundred and sixty degrees or articulating in more convoluted ways as its operator desired. Each arm was equipped with a multitude of attachments: basic hooks, magnets, a variety of cutting and welding tools, as well as more specialised mechadendrite-enabled manipulator claws.
Virtanen was a relatively small machine, but it was sturdy, reliable and had a hefty load capacity that belied its smaller stature compared to the titanic lifting rigs worked by Turentek himself.
Lifter rig. Things bigger than a titan with more arms, used for industrial and cargo purposes, I would gather.




PAge 37
Heavy machinery sprouted like the towering skeletal remains of vast-necked sauropods around the temple’s perimeter, and arch-backed rigs rumbled overhead on suspended rails, hauling containers weighing thousands of tonnes back and forth with no more effort than a Cadian might carry his kit-bag.
..
Most of the containers being loaded onto the vast-hulled shipping rigs contained modular plates of adamantium and structural members intended for the lower decks. Kilometres of hull plating had been torn from the Speranza by the crossing of the Halo Scar and the guns of the eldar warship – rendering entire districts of the Ark Mechanicus uninhabitable. The prow forges were producing millions of metric tonnes of desperately-needed components for the ship’s repair crews, but Abrehem’s experienced eye saw the pace was slowing as the Speranza’s supply of raw materials was increasingly depleted.
Carrying capacity of I assume to be the lifters. And industrial capacit yof Speranza (implying the scope of its damage)




Page 47
Smoke billowed around the wings and he fought to keep the Barisan’s nose up as it transitioned from a highly manoeuvrable assault craft into a hundred-and-thirty-tonne hunk of metal falling from the sky.
Mass of a Black Templar Thunderhawk.




Page 49-50
..the nine machines emerging from the towering cliffs of the bulk landers were known as Land Leviathans.
..
Not one was less than fifty metres tall, and one was at least twice that. Most moved on caterpillar tracks tens of metres wide, some on enormous, ultra-dense wheels the size of moderately-sized habitats, while others moved on vast, pounding machine legs.
No two were alike, for they had been constructed on many different forge worlds, over countless centuries by builders with differing technological resources, materials and aesthetic sensibilities. Here and there, it was possible to see that most shared the same basic chassis, but battle damage, centuries of attrition, addition and amendments had taken their subsequent evolution in many different directions
..
Mightiest of all was the Tabularium.
Archmagos Kotov’s Land Leviathan walked on fifty vast trapezoidal feet, arranged in parallel rows of twenty-five, each row three hundred metres long. The main structure’s mass was connected to the feet by huge telescoping columns; complex, brutishly mechanical arrangements of muscular pistons and cog-toothed joints. Each was veined by dozens of ribbed cables and power lines, which were in turn connected to threshing coupling rods that thundered in and out of the propulsion decks. Each monstrous foot elevated five metres, cycled forwards, then slammed back down with earth-cracking force and thunderous echoes.
Land Leviathans. More proof that the AdMech has cornered the market on unbelievably huge land machines and yet another huge vehicle in this book. Amusingly they're all the size of small starships for all intents and purposes.. and certianly much bigger than titans.




Page 51
... the Magos of Astrogation was an articulated framework of slatted steelwork in which several bell jars were suspended in layers of shock-resistant polymer. Each diamond-reinforced container contained a portion of Azuramagelli’s original brain matter, each excised chunk suspended in bio-conductive gel and linked in parallel with the Speranza’s cogitation engines which laughed in the face of Amdahl’s Law.
..
Kotov wore a body fashioned from glossy plates of jade that concealed a hybrid amalgamation of a vat-grown nervous system and cunningly interleaved cybernetics from a bygone age.
Techpriest augmentations and such. Gotta love technology.





Page 52
Over a thousand icons, none bigger than a grain of sand, surrounded him like a cloud of dancing fireflies, each one bearing an identifying signifier and progressing on its assigned route towards the Tomioka’s resting place.
..
... sifting the millions of informational returns from the external surveyors. The Tabularium possessed thousands of varieties of auspex, but not one was able to locate the Barisan.
Thousands of kinds of auspex.. meaning its a category of device rther than a specific kind (big shock.) Also techpriest processing millions of sensor returns from those thousands of sensors (and perhaps more.) And with a thousand separate parts of the convoy to keep track of, indicator of Admech multitasking.




Page 54-55
"When you have spent four thousand and sixty-seven years alone, you too will seek amusement wherever you find it."
"I will not live that long."
"You may," said Galatea. "Magos Telok has."
We know from the 3rd edition core rules the AdMech has the capacity to get its magos (or Archmagoes) to live thousands of years, and we know of at least one Techpriest that lasted 2000 years (From the Word Bearer trilogy) but this would seem to imply a firm upper limit on AdMech aging - at least for someone like Kotov. If they can age more than that, the tech is clearly restricted.



Page 55
It displayed a real-time capture of the landscape to a radius of a hundred kilometres. Sixty kilometres south of the landing fields, in the exact centre of the umbra, lay the object of their search.
Distance from landing fields to starship.


Page 61
Only then did Abrehem realise why Ismael kept saying we.
Encircling the skitarii in an unbroken ring of flesh and iron were hundreds of dispensing servitors, each one staring with a fixed expression at the drama unfolding in the feeding hall.
..
Ismael had once claimed to be able to hear the other servitors, but Abrehem had had no idea that line of communication worked both ways.
Suggesting again that, for whatever reason, the Speranza's servitor omplement were linked together in some sort of hivemind or gestalt. Probably a cogitator/Machien spirit of some kind ot guide them all in normal cases.




Page 65
Boulders of ice fell from the lip of the canyon, and he danced his machine back to avoid the largest. The voids would spare him the worst of the impacts, but it never paid to antagonise a Titan’s spirit with needless damage. The ground cracked as the boulders landed, each one tens of metres across, and Vintras sidestepped away from the unstable ground.
Warhound voids can protect against the falling of 'tens of metres' diameter ice boulders. A 20 m ice boulder owuld be nealry 4000 tons at least. Given that Titans can walk through voids (or vehicles drive through) I'd be guessing the boulder is falling at 10-20 m/s at least, suggesting hundreds of mj of KE either way.



Page 67
Even over the enormous height of the Tabularium, Roboute could see the loping form of the alpha engine of Legio Sirius. Lupa Capitalina held station at the centre of the convoy, a mobile fortress protecting the Leviathans with its city-levelling firepower.
Warlord city-demolsihing firepower. Also the implication that it is taller than Kotov's Land Leviathan.'




Page 73
A retrofitted Oberon battleship, the enormous vessel stood vertical along its long axis on the surface of Katen Venia like the last few kilometres of a towering hive spire. Such vast starships were never meant to enter the gravity envelope of a planet. Their superstructures were built to endure the multi-directional forces of void war and withstand pressures of acceleration and enormous turning circles.
What they were manifestly not designed to do was cope with the titanic forces of re-entry.
Tanna guessed that the ship’s engine section was buried at least two kilometres in frozen nitrogen, while the remaining five kilometres of its monolithic superstructure jutted into the sky, almost vanishing in a forced perspective that defied human scale. Its hull was as gothically ornamented as any Imperial ship of the line, redolent with cathedrals, crenellated battlements, rounded archways of gun batteries, ice-encrusted processionals of statuary and the bladed prow of a fighting vessel.
Oberon battleship landed engine first on planet. Supposedly reentry is impossible even though the ship is designed to stand up to the rigors of combat and its own (multi-gee) accelerations, so unless atmospheric friction has that much of an effect (rather odd given they can make small craft that survive such), or it deals with the impact risks of such craft, or.. its something else.

Oberon battleship is also 7+ km long or therabouts.




Page 79
...Kotov noted that two had fashioned leathery-looking cloaks from what passive receptors told him was human skin. It was the work of a picosecond to match its DNA profile with that of the batch-grown skin curtains found in the Valette infirmary.
Kotov takes a picosecond to search and match DNA.




Page 79
..his mouth hanging slack at the impossible sight of a seven-kilometre starship standing proud like a hive starscraper.
Again Oberon battleship is ~7 km or so long.




Page 80
Irritatingly, it seemed Surcouf was correct in deducing that the umbra did not reach ground level, as his augmetic senses had no trouble penetrating the umbra below fifty metres.
Important note for later.




Page 81
Thirty Rhinos matched the speed of his own, heavily converted vehicles with upgraded auspex suites, additional weaponry and higher-grade command/control functionality. Each carried a squad of heavily-armed and highly-skilled warriors, men he had trained using his stochastic analysis of millions of inloaded combat doctrines which were then broken down into their component elements
Combat capabilities of Dahan's skitarii


Page 81
nterspersed with the screen of armour came the columns of weaponised servitors, tracked praetorians, mobile weapon platforms and a quad-maniple of twelve battle robots: six Cataphracts, four Crusaders and two Conquerors. Each robot’s organo-cybernetic cortex was slaved to a partitioned thought-stream of battle-implants.
Battle robots with 'organo-cybernetic' brains and I guess remotely directed.
'


Page 82-83
..the overclocked speed of his mental architecture plotting out a precise and constantly-updating picture of the combat arena. His threat optics – now incorporating Archmagos Kotov’s sensory inload – draped the plateau of icy rock in myriad cyan hues: strongly pigmented azures for organics, deeper cobalt shades for metallics and lighter teals for inorganic materials. Firing range bands, topographical vectors of assault and optimal engagement zones were overlaid in crisp red lines, giving Dahan the perfect datum points from which to conduct this assault.
..
Each squad-chief’s right eye was a battle-implant that received situational data straight from Dahan; they knew what he knew and his binaric orders were implemented virtually instantaneously.
Dahan's informational systems and the link he has to his 'officers'. Its mentioned that the Battle Robots accompany the infantry and take on anything too big for the Skitarii to handle, whilst the battle servitors provide fire support.



Page 83
Skitarii gunfire smashed through the crystal creatures, blasting them apart with solid rounds or detonating them explosively with high-energy hotshots.
Effect of Skitarii weapons on Space Marine sized crystaline constructs.



Page 83
His accompanying skitarii unleashed a hail of plasma, graviton guns and micro-conversion beamers.
Micro-conversion beamers :P




Page 88
Beside him, Adara fired his laspistol with pinpoint accuracy, decapitating a crystal warrior with every shot.
Which might imply its blowing a neck-wide hole through the crystalline marine analogues, or the lasbeam is slicing the targets. It could go either way. without knowing the properties of the crystal we can't make accurate calcs, although its safe to bet single digit kj for mechanical effects against something akin to organic flesh, at least.



Page 93
he attenuated reverberations echoing through the Land Leviathan changed in pitch as the vast machine moved to a descending latticework support of adamantium struts, interlocking deck plating and bored-in suspensors. Linya brought up a drone optic feed and watched the Tabularium crossing the bridge, a million-tonne leviathan perched on an absurdly slender-looking structure that any rational eye would see as utterly incapable of supporting something so massive.
Kotov's Land Leviathan is a million tons, again interesting given its implied length and capabilities. Also a super-high tech bridge made specifcally to support weight of said Leviathans. Seems to use suspensors at least partially.




Page 98
Pistoning clamps punched into the ground as auto-loaders fed ammo hoppers into hungry breeches and dozens of ratcheting missile hatches cycled open. In deference to the mortals at its feet, Lupa Capitalina’s plasma weaponry remained inactive, but an artillery battalion’s worth of blazing heavy ordnance rippled from its shoulders. Streaking missiles traced parabolic trails over the battlefield, twenty-four in the first second, another twenty-four a second later. Plumes of white-hot fire exploded from the terrifying gatling blaster, and thousands of shells sawed from the spinning barrels of the vast, snub-nosed rotary cannon.
Implied firepower level and rates of fire for Warlord weaponry.




Page 107
"The only way in is on the back of Lupa Capitalina," said Linya. "It has the capacity to carry two assault forces, and its height means it’s just below the ceiling of the umbra, but tall enough to carry us to where the ice around the ship’s base is thinnest."
Remember earlier when I noted the 50 metre height for the Umbra's 'safe zone' as noted by Kotov? As noted before the Warlord is 'just under' this height so we're talking nearly 50m in height.




Page 108-109
"I believe them to be a form of bio-imitative machinery seeded within the crystalline structure of the plateau," said Kotov. "Essentially, billions of micro-bacterial sized machines threaded through the crystalline matrix of the ground, each useless in and of itself, but capable of combining into something greater than the sum of its parts. "
..
I have never heard of technology such as this,’ said Kryptaestrex, as though affronted by the idea. ‘Why has it not been recorded in the data-stacks of Mars?’
"Because it was never brought to fruition," said Kotov. "Magos Telok pioneered this research after his expedition to Naogeddon in the turbulent years following the fall of the High Lord. He never presented his work to any Martian Frateris Conclave, because he could never get it to work"
A rather peculiar pronouncement, given that the Glavian branch of the AdMech is supposed to have acquired nanotech. Again go figure.



Page 110
Putting aside his mournful thoughts, he leaned over the cog-toothed battlements, seeing squadrons of Imperial Guard super-heavies and skitarii war machines following the god-engine. Both Warhounds wove a stalking path ahead of Lupa Capitalina, prowling like the superlative hunters they were.
The 71st again is mentioned having super-heavies.. multiple squadrons in fact. In addition to their well equipped infantry (comms, targeting display visors, night vision, etc.), armour, artillery, APCs, sentinels and storm troopers.. the 71st is a pretty high end regiment.



Page 117
Escorted by a company-strength detachment of Cadian storm troopers led by Captain Hawkins, she had eagerly seized this chance to venture into the unknown
Apparently the Cadian 71st has at least one storm trooper company, although I'm not sure if they are literally storm troopers (or just elite troops of another type and/or Kasrkin) Oddly the 'company' seems to involve seven squads tops.




Page 120
Cadian combat argot was terse and tactically precise – for a verbal form of communication – with clear commands and unambiguous meanings. Skitarii mind-links were a far more efficient means of combat communication, but required cranial implants she suspected most soldiers of the fortress-world wouldn’t accept.
Cadian battle language vs mind links. Oddly it is implied that the limitation is one more of choice rather than capability.




Page 124
Between them, he and Vitali were maintaining the ship’s position over Katen Venia’s turbulent polar region, processing the surveyor readings exloaded from the surface, communicating along Manifold links with the senior commanders on the surface, optimising shipboard operations of over three million tertiary grade systems and coordinating the fleet manoeuvres in expectation of a cataclysmic stellar event.
AdMech multitasking of the Speranza and its attendant fleet.



Page 127
Kotov counted five robots, each four metres tall, brutish and harshly-angled, with rusted plates of ablative shielding crumbling at their shoulders.
size of AdMech Battle Robots.




Page 130
The machine-spirit at the heart of the Tomioka was sluggish and hostile to Linya’s enquiries, not that she could blame so venerable a machine for reacting badly to an unknown presence in its neuromatrix after so long a time spent dormant.
Battleship's machine spirit and 'neuromatrix' - whether that means 'inorganically imitating human' or organically doing so, or actually sticking bits of meat into the computer (all possible) I can't say. Battle robots we learn also have neuromatrices though, and the Galatea gestalt is another. Although Liniya has a neuromatrix too soo it does seem to be at least partly organic.




Page 135
"Evacuation has begun," said a magos whose identity signifiers were lost in the haze of noospheric data filling the bridge. "The first Leviathan is en route to the landing fields. The others are aligning behind it and are in the process of crossing Magos Kryptaestrex’s bridge."
Blaylock turned to Vitali Tychon, who encompassed the Manifold links within his datasphere to co-ordinate the logistical nightmare of an emergency planetary withdrawal.
"Vitali," said Blaylock, his urgency prompting him to dispense with titles and protocol. "How long before the energy source reaches the planet?"
"One hour, thirteen minutes, Tarkis," said Vitali Tychon, without needing to look up.
Implying that it took under an hour and a half tops for the entire expedition to get back to the Landing Field for evac. Ignoring the itme to load up and return to space, and assuming they start straight out, that would be 60 km (distance from Landing field to the Tomioka remember, as quoted earlier). Assuming 1-1.5 hours we get roughly 40-60 km/hr average speed.

The irony is that a.) this is an off road speed. b.) it applies to all the vehicles present. That means its the estimated speed for the Leman Russes, Basliisks, Super-heavies, Titans.. AND the Land Leviathans. Draw your own conclusions of insanity therein.




Page 136-137
...cycling through his implanted weaponry until he came up with a tight-beam graviton gun.
..
Kotov knelt and directed his implanted weaponry towards the nearest robot, triggering an invisible beam of intense gravometric energies. The robot, a clankingly archaic design of Cataphract, crumpled and bent double as its upper section was suddenly quadrupled in mass. Its already rusted spine collapsed under the weight and it fell in a welter of spilled oil and buckled plates.
..
Kotov crushed the chests of another ten robots with his graviton beams before the internal capacitors registered power loss.
Miniaturized graivton gun implant. Has physical damage capability.



PAge 137
...Kotov retracted the exotic weapon and cycled through to a more mundane rotary cannon. The design was an old one, a modified Dreadnought weapon that had been deemed too flimsy for deployment with Adeptus Astartes forces, but which Kotov liked for its brutal simplicity. The backplate of his body rotated to reveal louvred vents, and a long bullet-chain extended from his arm to link with an internal ammunition chamber.
..
Recoil compensators deployed along Kotov’s shoulders and legs as a series of readiness icons flashed before his eyes. Kotov slaved his targeting arrays to inloaded threat data from Dahan, and pushed his consciousness into a higher state before opening fire.
A blazing stream of fire tore from Kotov’s arm, fully three metres long, and whatever it touched simply exploded in a haze of torn-up metal and shattered plates. Each burst was precisely controlled, and it seemed that Kotov could see every shell, his cognitive functions moving so swiftly that he could watch each explosion in slow motion, switch targets and engage the enemy without wasting a single round of ammunition.
Kotov's gatling gun and its capabilities. When in doubt, use projectiles.



Page 140
Linya scrambled down the stairs, hearing chugging bangs of rapid bolter fire echoing above her. Too loud and too fast for a regular bolter, these were rounds that would reduce the human body to an expanding vortex of vaporised blood and cooked flesh.
..
The robot had landed on one knee and now rose to its full height of nearly four metres. Its heavy bolter ratcheted from the protective cowling at its shoulder and its power fist crackled with deadly disruptive field energies. The Castellan’s armoured plating was scorched with las-burns and impact trauma.
Battle Robot heavy bolter firepower. Whether we take vaporize literally or not (there's still the cooked flesh/blood bit) that's tremendous firepower.



Page 143
Kotov hadn’t, but as more and more of his systems reset, he began picking out desperate bursts of communication transmitted from orbit via the Tabularium. Though it sent a flare of pain through his skull, Kotov processed the most urgent of them in three pico seconds.
Again pico-second reception and process of multiple messages.




Page 151-152
Only afterwards would any coherent picture of events surrounding the destruction of Katen Venia emerge, and even that proved to be fragmentary, contradictory and almost unbelievable.
Moments before the rapidly expanding energy shockwave exploded outwards from the doomed world, every square metre of ray shielding and every functional void pylon ignited across the Speranza. Every ship of the Kotov fleet found its shields flare into life and its external augurs shut down at the same moment, each captain at a loss as to the source of the initiating command.
The surging explosion of high energy flux, huge particle densities and pressures slammed past the Kotov fleet, scattering its ships like a spiteful warp fluctuation. Saiixek’s work to re-orientate the Speranza did much to mitigate the damage of the blast wave; the sheer mass of the Ark Mechanicus allowed it to ride out the worst of the explosion’s force. The very proximity of the fleet to Katen Venia isolated it within the eye of an outward-rushing bow wave of exotic particles, compressed gravity waves and unknowable forces.
Almost as soon as the blast wave passed over the fleet, a phase transition occurred, causing an exponential expansion of remodelled space-time. Passive auspex on the external surfaces of the Speranza registered an ultra-rapid spike in temperature caused by the high-energy photon density. Particle/antiparticle pairs of all descriptions were being instantaneously created and destroyed in violent collisions of sub-atomic matter – and only one other instant in history had achieved such a violent moment of creation.
But this was no creation of a universe, this was that force harnessed by incomparably ancient technology and bent to another purpose altogether.
Alone and isolated, the ships of the Kotov fleet battened down the hatches and rode out the storm of unleashed energies, fighting to hold their position in a ferocious upheaval of system-wide gravitational fluxions that could tear them apart in a heartbeat. Compared to the forces of matter transition being wielded in the Arcturus Ultra system, the titanic power of the Halo Scar paled in comparison. Tossed and swatted through space like leaves in a storm and not knowing if any of the other vessels were still alive, each captain fought to keep their ship intact until the fury of this stellar event was spent.
It took a further seven hours before the raging swells of high-energy particles and hyper-charged gravitational wavefronts had dissipated enough for any of the fleet vessels to risk deploying surveyor arrays. Travelling at near light-speed, whatever had exploded from Katen Venia would certainly have reached the star at the heart of the system by now. Having weathered the storm better than most, the Speranza was first to tentatively probe the void in an attempt to learn what had just happened.
First starships have both 'ray shielding' and voids, which is interesting as defenses against radiation. The implication seems to be 'ray' shields are an actual forcefield, although how common they are we don't know. 'ray' shielding may also just be a reference to some kind of navigational shielding (low powered voids, since it implies there might be a correlation.)

Secondly, and more debatable, are the calcs of the fleet getting hit by the aftereffects of the destruction of the planet. I say its 'debatable' because the elements are precisely that - up for debate. For one thing there's the energy output. Whilst a typical rule of thumb in sci fi (or at least one commonly used) is the 'mass scattering earth', and few might argue it, in principle depending on the conclusions people can and will argue over the definition of 'destroy' and the effects. For one thing 'destroying' the planet could mean 'merely' vaporizing it, whilst on the other hand it could go to 'exploding planetary mass at some fraction of lightspeed. Heck the implication that it was brute force would probably be contested even though it mentions 'energies' - enough planetary destructions have been argued (and have been) bizarre that its not impossible. The gravitic weirdness alone is up for debate but it could be argued exotic radiation that doesn't normally interact with particles.

One interpretation might be that the 'explosion' mass scattered the planet, possibly accelerating it to a percentage of lightspeed. The energy input would be tremendous (on the order of e39-e40 joules) for an Earthlike planet. However 'explosion' is the only bit described as moving that fast and the explosion could be independent from the planet's destruction. More likely, it is a portion of whatever destroyed the planet ( a byproduct) and cannot be calced.
Even without that there is the 'eye' reference, whihc suggests they may not have been directly in the path (hard to say, and hard to understand how, but the gravity weirdness and shit could not rule that out.)

All that said, if we assume the fleet was some tens of thousands of kilometres from an Earthlike planet and that the planet itself was mass-scattered (2e32 joules at least). An explosion of that magnitude would generate at least megatons of energy per square metre easily. We dont know the size of the Speranza, but we know that a 3 km rogue trader ship is present as are some light cruisers. If we figure the cruisers also turn bown on and that they're around 600-1000 m on a side you would have between a quarter million and a million square metres of surface area (which is a bit of an abstraction, since the bow is NOT a flat plane, but that can be good and bad. There's also debate over the nature of the energy which could skew the calc, but I digress.) The (shielded) ship would absorb between 4.6e21-1.9e22 joules of energy. If they were bow on (1.5-4.5 million square meteres) you would get btween 2.8e22 and 8.3e22 joules absorbed.

As noted before, this is not an 'absolute' calc, but more an approximation of what might have happened given certain assumptions, so it is not without potential for argument. That said it DOES correspond to a certain magtnidue of capability described elsewhere. And even if it was off by a factor of 1000 (or heck, even a million) you're still talking about megatons or even gigatons of energy doing minimal (if any) damage to Imperial ships.
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And part 2. That was easy.

Page 154
That so cosmically powerful an event had not appeared in any version of the myriad entangled potential futures scared Bielanna more than she thought possible. An entire star system had been transformed, renewed and regenerated in a matter of hours. Such power was not meant for the galaxy’s current inheritors. Even the eldar in the days before the Fall, when their civilisation had spanned the galaxy and their arrogance had known no bounds, would not have dared meddle with such awesomely powerful forces.
The 'Breath of the Gods' seems ot be the 40K version of hte Star Trek Genesis Device (sans protomatter) and even seems to work on (certain kinds, at least) stars. The Eldar during their heyday also had this capability evidently, but deem it too dangerous to actually attempt.




Page 163
Magos Saiixek – together with a gifted magos and enginseer from Roboute Surcouf’s ship – had wrought wonders from the engines, pushing the ship through the void at speeds Kotov had not believed the Speranza capable of achieving. Linya Tychon and Azuramagelli had plotted a course that, with a fair wind and a steady tide at their back, should see them in orbit around the source of Telok’s transmissions within fifteen days.
15 days tor each whatever destinayion they did. Presumably subspace given the context but its not sure. If we assume 100 million to 1 billion km distance the travel velocity would be as low as 77 km/s (100 million km in two weeks) to 770 km/s (1 billion km.) Perhaps low thousands of km/s tops if its further.




Page 170
"So rarely do we have the chance to just explore," he said. "All too often our works are subverted by Imperialistic concerns: identifying systems of military significance, locating worlds rich in materiel resources, breadbasket regions, asteroid belts to be used as staging areas or determining system suitabilities for star forts. How often are we afforded the opportunity to explore for the sheer joy of it and the act of exploration itself? A chance as rare as this should not be squandered, Linya, we should embrace it and revel in the simple joys of discovery."
Heck its rare to have a 40K novel where you see 'simple joys of discovery' and 'just exploration' actually happen. This 'high adventure/exploration' angle that you get with the Explorators is one of the big things that makes this book enjoyable for me. There are mysteries to uncover, uncharted territories to explore, dangers to face... and its not just war, war, war. And the sheer optimism implicit in the act of adventuring and discovery.. that 'Quest for Knowledge' as exemplified here is rare too, which makes it all the more precious when it *does* happen.

In more purely mechanical terms we discover that astronomy and such work as the Tychons pursue - is usually done with militaristic or expansionist goals in mind. Establishing of worlds and bases, acquisition of important resources, stuff like that. It does reinforce that the Imperium enforces some measure of control over its organization and planning, even if just barely.



Page 191
" I wanted to reach out beyond the Koalith system, to push the boundaries of what I could achieve, but there was one stumbling block in my path."
"You needed a Letter of Marque to operate with impunity beyond the system borders."
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"Correct. And the Adeptus Terra aren’t exactly handing them out like party favours around Bakka. The last one I know of that was granted, was to a family that could trace its origins back to the Age of Apostasy, or so they said, and that took three centuries of negotiations, fancy bureaucratic footwork and copious amounts of bribery. "
Commentary on obtaining (legitimate) letters of Marque. apparently they're the requirement for beinga ble to travel beyond a planetary system (although maybe not in every case, as we've had examples of systems with warp capable vessels, at least short ranged ones anyhow.)




Page 196
The Renard’s shuttle was a mid-sized carrier, capable of carrying tens of thousands of metric tonnes of cargo and was clearly kept in a well above average state of repair.
Implied size and cargo capacity of a 'mid sized' cargo carrier/shuttle of some sort. Presumably its mass is of comparable magnitude.




Page 202-203
"It seems strange to think of a time before hexamathics, don’t you think? We rely on it so heavily now. It is part of every binaric code structure, part of every communication, yet we take it for granted, as though we will never lose it."
"Nor shall we, its usage is incorporated into every database."
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"Yes, we have encoded much of our data, but all it might take is one catastrophe for us to forget all we have learned. The Age of Strife nearly wiped us out, erased so much of what our species had achieved so thoroughly – one might be tempted to imagine it was a deliberate act of technological vandalism."
"We have learned from that," said Blaylock. "Our archives are scattered, multiple redundancies and duplicates exist on every forge world."
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"Hexamathics is a good example," he said. "We take it for granted, but what if the STC to construct the implants that allow our brains to process the calculations was lost? Vast swathes of our current means of encrypted communication and data transfer would be rendered incomprehensible at a stroke. You and I are exchanging and updating our recent work-flow patterns as we speak on higher planes of noospheric transference, but remove our hexamathic implants and those data-streams would become unintelligible gibberish little better than scrapcode."
Hexamathics described... but also an interesting discussion ont he retention vs loss of knowledge of humanity in general and the AdMech in particular. Kotov uses the 'one meal away from barbarism' quote to illustrate how tenuous the AdMech hold on knowledge is because of it - without their implants to understand the 'encoding' of their knowledge, it would become incomprehensible. Indeed something akin to this has probably happened multiple times in the AdMech's past contributing to the whole 'loss of knowledge' thing - I mean considering how jealously most forge worlds guard their data they probably all have their own encoding/encryption and if you lose one world you probably lose all that data even if you have copies (unless you have the code itself, which sort of defeats the purpose of a secret code...) It is again an interesting commentary on the whole 'quest for knowledge' thing and the faults/limitations of the current iteration of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

On the plus side, they seem to echo the James Swallow approach to knowledge and retain backups and duplicates/redundancies of much (perhaps all) of that tech. Although that still probably doesn't include the hoarded secrets of the AdMech (from itself and others.)




Page 206
He had assigned Linya to operate the port-side stabilisation array, a task that involved compensating for any ill-judged steps the princeps might make and running the real-time gyroscopic calculations that allowed a fifteen-metre-tall bipedal war machine to remain upright at any given moment.
Warhounds are 15 m tall.



Page 206
The Adeptus Mechanicus had descended to the surface of Hypatia like a rapacious swarm of tyranid feeder organisms and promised to be no less thorough in stripping the planet of its resources. Titanic mining machines deployed in numbers that made the expedition to Katen Venia resemble a dilettantes’ excursion.
Each harvest force landed where orbital surveys had revealed the most promising deposits of the required materials, and almost as soon as each cadre of machines rumbled from their landers they began smashing the planet’s surface apart. Underground caverns filled with chemically-rich oceans were drained, while earth-churning digger leviathans descended on previously bombarded sites to tear open the planet’s crust to a depth of hundred and thirty kilometres, exposing the ductile, mineral-rich seams of the superheated asthenosphere.
...
With the harvesters excavating, drilling, siphoning and refining a continent’s worth of the planet’s surface into materials usable by the Speranza’s forges...
Implied scope of mateirals harvesting for the exploratory fleet. They dig at least 130 km deep and over a continentla sized area (1000+ km per side say) which is maybe some 3e20 kg of earth moved in a matter of days. Even if a tiny fraction of that were usable materials (1-10% say) we'd be talking countless trillions of tons. Heck even a millionth of that mass would be considerable - hundreds of billions of tons easily (and would mesh with billions of tons of materials being a non-crippling loss to the fleet.)
Beyond that its hard to be definite about resource usage/acquisition, except they take mineral and fossil fuel wealth it seems.




Page 209
Crackling sheets of energy arced through the chamber, leaping from stanchion to stanchion and filling the vast space with a storm of lightning. Men, women and children were soundlessly screaming as the lightning blitzed through the lower-deck living spaces, turning living bodies to ash and smoke with every flickering blast of blue-white light.
+Impossible,+ blurted Kryptaestrex. +There are no electrical power sources within the chamber capable of generating such a discharge.+
+That isn’t electricity,+ said Azuramagelli, taking urgent inloads from the Speranza’s astropathic choir chambers. +Choirmasters across the ship are reporting a psychic event of battle-grade levels.+
Implied scope of 'battle grade' psychic events - cremating people with lightning. This is probably Eldar Farseers at work in this case.




Page 224-225
Now he realised he was standing at the heart of what was likely to be a colossal explosion of superheated plasma energy that would reduce the vast structure of the Speranza to vapour.
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Each cylindrical reactor was five hundred metres in diameter and two kilometres in length – almost eighty-five per cent of their mass comprised layers of ceramite heat shielding and containment field generators. One reactor alone was capable of supplying the energy demands of a mid-sized hive for centuries, and Saiixek was looking at twelve such reactors stretching off towards a vanishing point at the far end of the chamber.
Entire cadres of servitors had been devoted to regulating the unimaginable core temperatures with mantras of prayer or ministering to the many hundreds of machine-spirits inhabiting the mechanisms empowering the reactors. The never-ending catechisms of maintenance and the continual ritualised workings were attended to by five hundred servitors for each reactor...
The Speranza's reactors described. Seemingly a kind of fusion it would be, requiring extensive machine spirit ant servitor support to maintain it, but its not certain (never is with 40K 'fusion' lol)

Power wise we're not told much except that it supplies a 'mid sized hive for centuries' - possibly indicating the Speranza's output is orders of magnitude higher per reactor since starships typically do not last that long without resupply (6 months to a year average) At the very least probably high megatons/low gigatons, as we previously established that the Speranza is probably massing much more than a mere 'billions of tons (the amount of material it deploys to ONE landing facility, and that didnt seem to make a crippling dent in their supplies) assuming iron composition.

Also much of the mass of the reactor seems to be in heat shielding and containment fields.

Whilst we can't make accurate comparisons we could guess at total capacity roughly. We know that a Hive could be described as a self contained state or country (or in extreme cases, like Necromunda, whole worlds) The US consumed in a year an average of around 7-8e19 joules per year, whilst a single state (California) consumed 'only' 1e18 joules in a year. Out of inteest global consumption would probably be on the order of the e20 range, so we might figure somewhere between e17 (to lowball) and e20 joule total usage. Over several centuries that would be e19-e22 joules total output (at least) per reactor.

An alternate means (although likely to cause outrage) is to compare toa Goliath factory ship. We know from Space Fleet that they carry 'millions of tons' of fuel to hives and industrial worlds. We might figure from that (if we assume fusion or fission fuel, even though there is no reason they have to process something that exotic from ores) we culd figure between e13-e14 joules roughly, which would be closer to e22-e23 joules total over however many forge/industrial worlds. (probably fewer than 10 given distributon of worlds per sector typically.. handful of hive and fore worlds, for example) whilst we knwo from other sources (Rogue Trader RPG, Death of Antagonis, etc.) that they can be 'mass extinction' level energy outputs (E24-e27 joules) which again would probably be within a few years. This is orders of magnitude more energy than my previous comparison, although it would be total world consumption (possibly several) but its unliekly we're talking thousands of hive cities to spread it over (or even hundreds) so its still approximate. We might still figure somewhere at least in the e21-e23 joule range per hive city per year, which would put the energy output of the reactor at e23-e25 J range easily (total potential output, liekly rather than sustained power output.) Its still damned impressive, and could be considerably higher depending on how you play around with the numbers.

Although of course if you want to go with more conservative numbers you could probably fudge that even lower. WE know many hives use geothermal power for example. which might be in the gigawatt/terawatt usage range. IF we figured 10-100 gigawatts roughly and over a year output would be 'only' in the e17-e18 joule range annually and would go to e19-e20 joule total usage (less if you figure less than a gigawatt I suppose. Although if we went with a terawatt it would again become larger also.)




Page 230
Anders nodded. "That was careless of you. It’s like me forgetting where I parked my Baneblade squadrons and being surprised when someone drives them over me."
Once again the Cadian 71st seems to have Super heavy squadrons (plural) and this time they are clarified as Baneblades.




Page 231
"He wants the men of this ship to be treated like human beings. Don’t get me wrong, these bondsmen are legitimate servants of the Mechanicus, and they’re here to do a job, just like every grunt that joins my regiment. But what every Cadian officer knows, and what the Mechanicus has forgotten, is that the way to get the best out of a man isn’t to beat him to death with a stick, but to beat him just enough that he’s grateful for a hint that the carrot even exists."
An interesting perspective on Cadian training. I suppose its a bit more sane than the 'child soldiers trained from birth = badass' stuff, but it does show they recognize and have a value for human life and dignity and its importance as a motivating and inspirational factor.




Page 236
It felt strange going into a hostile situation without his ubiquitous Hellhound tanks at his back or the roaring form of a Leman Russ Conqueror beneath him. Colonel Ven Anders firmly believed that marching towards the enemy on foot was a tactic of last resort or a way for gloryhounds to get themselves killed trying to make a name for themselves.
Apparently the 71st find it unusual to go to war on your feet.. they must be again highly mechanised/armoured (well duh, given how many vehicles we've seen them have.) apparnetly at least some of their Russes are specifically conquerors at that, which would make sense for a highly mobile mechanised regiment.




Page 243
"The archmagos tells me there’s no file on who he was before his transmogrification, but he would have been a monster. A child murderer or rapist or a heretic. Or something even worse."
Apparently the aforementioned crimes are bad enough under Imperial law to warrant this punishment. Which is a bit surprising in some ways, but not in others.


Page 244
He’d made emergency warp jumps before he’d reached the Mandeville point, run the gauntlet of greenskin roks and navigated the heart of an asteroid belt, but this was just insane.
Again its possible to jump before reaching the Mandeville point or some other benchmark for 'safe' warp jumps, its just not something a sane person would choose to do.



Page 245
.. while Sylkwood was down in the engine spaces, trying to keep the Renard’s engines hot enough to make the manoeuvre possible without turning the flanks of the Speranza to molten slag.
Using engines to manoeuvre and also temperature is a prime influence on exhaust velocity.



Page 246
Emil nodded and flexed his fingers on the ship’s control mechanisms. Ordinarily, a ship the size of the Renard would rarely be flown manually, operating instead via a series of inputted commands, moving between pre-configured waypoints and automated flight profiles.
"Is there anything I could say that would persuade you to let the onboard data-engine navigate us to the shuttle?" asked Pavelka. "You cannot hope to process the sheer amount of variables in the Speranza’s gravitational envelope."
Which would suggest 40K Starships (and some shuttles, at least the larger ones) are computer-piloted under the 'guidance' of a human operator, due to the complexities involved. It doesn't mena ALL such ships are (you know because some people/authors think automation of any kind in 40K is a sin) but it seems to be far from rare or unheard of either. Then again Renard is owned by a Rogue Trader :P




Page 249
Captain Hawkins threw himself at Guardsman Manos, knocking him to the deck before he could fire again, but the damage had already been done. The first bondsman died with a neat las-burn drilled through the centre of his skull and his brains flash-burned to vapour. No sooner had he collapsed than Manos switched targets, killing another seven bondsmen on full-auto before Hawkins reached him.
First off: las shot vaporizes human brain. If literal we're probably talking a good 2-4 megajoules minimum (albeit in heat ray form, not the most effective) and possibly blowing out the skull (or at least the back of it) in the process. If we're just 'boiling' the brain it would probably be 'only' 375 kj plus however much vaporization goes on. If its not literal we're probably talking at least double digit kj to just badly burn the brain (figure 400 j per sq cm 4th degree burns and 200-250 sq cm surface area for brain approximately - 80-100 kj for 'brain vaping'. Of course its also possible its an exaggeration and it may just mean blowing out the brains and could probably be done with single digit kj, although that wouldnt account for any thermal effect and there is undoutably at least some.

Likewise, it seems that the lasgun lets off at least 7 shots before HAwkins tackles Manos (or before he even reacts) implying a second or two tops. At 2 seconds the ROF would be 3.5 shots a second, close to the uplifting primer estimate, whilst it could be 7+ shots/sec in the second interpretation.




Page 251
Discipline was paying off against anger, as the raw fury of the bondsmen was no match for Cadian training. Every man in Hawkins’s command was fighting as part of a unit, each defending their fellow soldiers’ backs and expecting the same in return. Living in the shadow of the Eye of Terror demanded a dedication to martial brotherhood that few other regiments could match.
Cadian training and discipline vs angry AdMech ship crews. Again speaks to their training and capabilities more than anything.





PAge 252-253
The Renard’s keel measured just under three kilometres, which meant that its normal turning circle was correspondingly large. A starship’s hull and internal structure was designed to withstand the stresses of the void and vast forces of acceleration, but no human shipwright had ever designed a vessel of such displacement to be nimble.
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...he hauled the controls around and fired a sequenced burn of manoeuvring rockets along the length of the hull. Vectored thrust from the starboard prow jets fired at maximum thrust, while the port-side jets on the ship’s rear and dorsal sections provided counter-thrust to complete the pivoting turn.
Emil felt himself pressed into his seat as local gravity within the Renard increased. The superstructure groaned as torsion forces tried to buckle structural ribs and twist the keel into unnatural shapes.
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"Hull stresses thirty per cent past recommended tolerances. Engine containment field strength diminishing."
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To halt their manoeuvre now would be just as dangerous. He fired another sequenced blast of thrust, rolling the Renard onto its back relative to the Speranza. He let the turn continue until the two vessels were facing one another, before firing the main engines with a corrective burn on the vectored thrusters to stabilise their yaw.
The Renard was shaking itself apart as conflicting thrusts placed intolerable loads on its superstructure. Steel girders the thickness of Titan legs were twisting like heated plastic, and precision-machined panels were bursting from their settings as the ship warped under stresses beyond what even the most exacting inspector might demand.
Imperial starships can, in emergencies, make extremely sharp turns in tight spaces, although the complexity of the manuver, as well as the stresses it imparts on the ship in coping with the suddenness of those turns, is not good for the ship and generally probably not recommended. Then again the Renard may not have structural-reinforcing powerfields or gravity fields like some starships do, which would help offset these disadvantages.

The passage indicates that ships can make tighter turns in emergncies, although not without cost. Likewise, it implies that the ship's engines can push considerably past their max limit as well(again not without cost, as the containment field strength diminishes.) If the 'overdrive' is consistent witht he tolerances, it might imply up to 130% normal engine power (which is close to the 120+% from the HH anthologies implications, and thus quite possible.)

The internal structural girders are also 'titan leg' thick (although the kind of titan isn't known) and apparently steel of some kind (cue 'conventional steel' jokes here.) Also, apparently there are starship tolerance standards that Imperial vessels are expected to adhere to (hence the Inspectors.)

Imperial starships also seem to have considerable numbers of maneuvering thrusters studded across their hull. - they must be individually small and probably weak compared to the main engines, but in aggregate they probably can be considerably stronger (although again, probably nowhere near close to what the main engines put out.) Additionally it seems that the main engines (probably) can be vectored meaning they too can add to the turn rate.




Page 254
At such differential speeds and at such close range, even minute alterations in pitch meant kilometres of space between the two ships would vanish in seconds.
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Emil risked a quick glance through the canopy and saw a glint of reflected light from the shuttle’s hull. The term shuttle was misleading, as that vessel was itself over two hundred metres long and thirty wide. The tether holding it in place was invisible, but that the shuttle wasn’t being buffeted from side to side by the Speranza’s gravity envelope was enough to tell Emil it was there. Its perceived motion was caused by the Renard’s erratic movement, which – minute as it was in relative terms – was still hundreds of metres to either side.
Ship velocity at these distances is hundreds if not thousands of metres per second even for 'minute' course changes, quite likely with corresponding acceleration shifts. Likewise the gravity field of the Speranza is also strong enough to buffet the Renard by 'hundreds of metres' to either side - probably in no more than a couple seconds either way if that, implying accelerations imparted to the ship of single if not double digit gees easily. The Renard has to be exerting thrust to at least counter most of that effect, suggesting its engines (manuvering thrusters and certainly main thrusters if they vector their exhaust) pull similar accelerations easily. This is probably also a lower limit, as the previous high-stress turn exerted far more negative effects on the ship than these thrusts are, but by how much we don't know.

The shuttle is also, bluntly speaking, freaking huge. 200 metres long and 30 m wide is about the dimensions of a Invincible class Aircraft carrier approximately, and the tonnage of one of those would match up well with the 'tens of thousands of tons' cargo carrying capacity mentioned previously. Its a freaking shuttle the size of a small starship.

Intrestingly the implied 'average' density of the ship is somewhere between 150-250 kg*m^3, close to the estimated density of Honorverse ships AND implied as 'realistic' densities by atomic rockets (for starships at least) This is also without a doubt many times denser than FFG starships, as a 5 km long cruiser would easily mass 1-2 hundred million tons at least, and quite probably more than that. If the shuttle tonnage goes up, so does the density. If we figure a 90,000 ton shuttle for example, the mass could get to several billion tons for that 5 km long cruiser (for example)



Page 255
The evacuation of Brontissa had been a nightmarish race against time, a countdown to extinction faced by billions of people with no clue as to the horror of what awaited them. A trading hub in a prosperous arc of the Melenian Dust Belt, Brontissa squatted at a confluence of trade routes and military channels, supplying both staple and exotic goods to the surrounding sectors, as well as providing a haven for weary captains to rest and recuperate while seeking out fresh contracts as their fleets were refitted in the web of orbital dockyards.
A major trading hub which has interactions with multiple sectors surroudning it and a population of billions. Shows how variable the 'connection' between Imperial worlds can be, depending on location, importance, etc.


Page 255-256
A screaming horde of starships blasted into high orbit, but the tyranids were not some mono-directional mass of unthinking drones. They had devoured Imperial worlds before and had learned from each slaughter. The volume of space around Brontissa was seeded with billions upon billions of bio-organisms. Some were lethally intelligent hunter-killer creatures as vast as Imperial battleships and formed like frond-mouthed conches. Others were little more than organic mines, billowing in dense, spore-like clouds to cripple fleeing craft to be devoured at leisure.
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Just before breaking through the closing trap of bio-organic ships and orbital spore mines...
Tyranid anti-space defenses.. probably qualify as not just starships but varities of ordnance and such for blockade and other purposes. Heck, given we know typical 'hive fleet's tend to be a mere 'millions' of ships that suggests hundreds or thousands of spores (or other kinds of 'ordnance') per fleet ship on average.



Page 256-257
Already trailing a hull’s worth of parasitic polymer fronds from a detonated spore mine, the Infinite Terra was in no state to manoeuvre. Its vectored engines were clogged with frothing biomass, and its void arrays were snapped after the impact of dozens of burrowing beetle-creatures with teeth like underground drilling rigs. The ship Rayner believed his family to be aboard was much smaller, a cargo lighter that could just about break orbit, but little else. Without inter-system capability or warp engines, there was no way it could escape the darting, bullet-nosed devourer beasts on its tail – Rayner knew it.
Warp capable starship with 'vectored' engines again, and also a system ship of the low end kind (only limited to reaching orbit, but not much capability to travel between planets in the system.)
Also different kinds of 'ordnance' for Tyranids some sort of boarding torpedo analogue (or oversized Fleshborer/devourer.



Page 257
With his forward cargo bay wide open, he’d flown through the upper reaches of Brontissa’s atmosphere – already turbulent with insidious tyranid micro-organisms that were consuming the oxygen and nitrogen in the air ...
Tyranid biowarfare.



Page 258
The shuttle lurched and the internal gravity wallowed as brutal acceleration strained to throw off the e-mag tether holding it in place.
Shuttle has its own internal gravity (possibly inertial damping as well.) Considering its as big as a small aircraft carrier this is hardly surprising.




Page 260
Varda turned into the arco-flagellant and put a bolt-round straight into its chest at a range of centimetres. The bolt punched into the killer’s chest and the explosive warhead detonated microseconds after, exploding from its back in a bloody exit wound.
Bolt round implied to penetrate flesh and detonate within microseconds. Depending on how deep and how many microseconds you figure (anywhere from 2 microseconds to almost a millisecond) you could get velocities anywhere from 100 m/s to 10 km/s. I'd probably rule out anything much above 2 km/s simply on reasons of practicality from even rocket propelled ewapons of that size (and the fact Bolters aren't hypersonic missiles to my knowledge consistently) and if it traveled that fast there probably wouldn't be much point in a warhead at all. On the other hand we know that they can be supersonic, so 100 m/s is probably too slow as well. Mind you 'detonation' time for bolt rounds doesnt seem fixed, and some cases suggest slower arming/detonating times than this (bolt rounds penetrating through bodies and detonating behind the target, for example.)



Page 264
...re-establishing control of the overloading reactors in the enginarium decks. With dedicated binaric choirs appeasing the enraged spirits of the plasma cores, the runaway reactions within their nuclear hearts were cooled and normal operation restored, allowing the Speranza to pull out of its self-destructive descent.
Which may or may not suggest a fusion reactor of some kind, depending on your interpretation of such things.



Page 264
All the subsequent deep neural trawls could establish was that sometime around the shooting, synaptic activity in Manos’s amygdala, the mass of nuclei buried deep in the temporal lobes of the brain, had increased tenfold. This section of the brain, often neutered during a senior adept’s passage through the upper echelons of the Cult Mechanicus, housed the body’s control mechanisms for fear and rage, which – together with the murder of Magos Saiixek – led some magi to speculate that an outside agency had exerted some form of psychic influence over the Guardsman.
AdMech Brain scanning capabilities and the inferences they can draw from it, as well as their own surgical abilites with regards to the brain and its emotions and such.




Page 269
The risk to his researches would be incalculable in the time it would take to raise an offspring, for surely he would wish to observe the development of his clone first-hand.
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But all that had changed when a one in ten trillion random fluctuation in the genetic sequencing of his clone had spontaneously mutated its code and transformed what should have been a genetic copy of Vitali into a distinct individual. A daughter.
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Invasive augmentation of developing brain cells during her hothoused gestation period in the iron womb had given her an enhanced intellect and growth speeds from birth.
Within her first year of life Linya was already acting as his assistant, her enhanced mind housed within the equivalent bodyshape of a six-year-old child. Her physical growth had assumed a more traditional pattern soon after, but her mind had never stopped developing, and soon she was outstripping magi with decades more experience in mapping the heavens.
AdMech surgical/genetic enhancements of some kind, I'm guessing. Also cloning, which they still evidently have and can successfully pull off. The odd thing is that it apparently can have unpredictable mutations (although at very very VERY low probability).

But the really interesting thing (and that which I am not going to quote) is that this basically leads into Vitali forming an actual human, emotional attachment with his daughter despite his expectations. I think its pretty cool the way McNeill wrote this, as it plays into the same sort of 'hope and optimism' the Tychons have represented consistently throughout this novel. Even in a moment of tragedy when Linya might be dying, we still see that, and the balance between the two is what gives the book its appeal to me. He is perhaps the embodiemnt of the AdMech's humanist roots, as well as its curiosity and desire for knowledge for the sake of knowledge.



Page 270
Vitali’s brain had been augmented, rewired and surgically conditioned in so many ways that its processes resembled those of a baseline human in only the most superficial ways. He thought faster and on multiple levels at once. His powers of lateral thinking and complex, multi-dimensional visualisation were beyond the abilities of even gifted human polymaths to comprehend.
Yet he was as crushed by guilt and grief as any father at the sight of his child in pain.
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But then he would have denied himself the joy of Linya’s existence, the pleasure of her growth and learning, the wonder of her personality shining through, no matter how steeped in the ways of the Martian priesthood she became. Though Cult Mechanicus to her bones, Linya had a very rare, very bright spark of humanity that refused to be extinguished no matter what replacement cybernetics were implanted within her biological volume.
Another view of AdMech abilities to enhance the brain and their evident understanding of it (the capabilities of Vitali's augmentations in particular.) It also reinforces the earlier comment I made about this passage, emphasizing Vitali as the 'human, and 'optimsit' face of the AdMech. The way its written is just very cool and moving to me because its AdMech and yet something different within that AdMech (reminding me of the Magos friend of Eisenhorn)

The scene is also interesting in that not only do we see Vitali again in his 'human' guise and the discussion of parent-child relationships and concepts, we have the Galatea 'abomination' show up and show sympathy for Vitali's plight and admiration for Linya. Whilst I have a certain dread about WHY (a potential addition to the hivemind, so to speak), it is interesting for its effect on Vitali - he goes from loathing for the 'horrid abomination' to a certain rapport with the thing and a change of heart (however temporary) through shared grief for Linya. Another very 'human' element, I think.



Page 273-274
The wounds it had suffered at the hands of the Space Marines were extensive, enough to have slain a bondsman many times over. Only its superlative artificiality and accelerated metabolic augmentation had kept it alive, though those selfsame biological mechanisms had kept it in a state of regenerative dormancy since then.
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The bolter wound in the arco-flagellant’s side had healed itself, forming a gauze of synthetic skin that over time had bonded with his hardened skin shell to leave a glossy carapace of scar tissue. Totha Mu-32 had removed over eighty-seven individual shards of bolt casing from the arco-flagellant’s back before packing that wound with synth-flesh and applying a counterseptic dressing.
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Numerous chem-shunts situated in the hollows between X-42’s shoulder and collarbone had ruptured, spreading a distilled cocktail of potent drugs designed to initiate combat reflexes, states of dormancy, healing and self-immolation.
comment on some of the more interesting 'enhancements' of Abrahem's pet arco-flagellant. It has considerable regenerative abilities (not unlike the Larraman organ of the Space MArines) attributed to an artificial (chemically enhanced?) metabolism, although the 'synthetic' skin growth suggests an augmetic element to it as well.

Also bolt round (astartes bolt rounds) seem to have considerable fragmentation effects again on impact - possibly because the 'explosive' acts more as a bursting charge in this manner rather than being the primary/direct damage mechanism. It also rpovides an interesting itnerpretation on 'casings' lol.

Also the Arco-flagellant has other kinds of chemical drugs to not only boost abilities and control it,but apparently to cause it to combust spontaneously, not unlike what an Eversor can do I gather. Never underestimate imperial biotech's abilities to turn any being into a living bomb of some kind. Now all this said, there's strong hints that at least SOME of the Arco-flagellant tech is rare and probably 'lost' to modern AdMech so how much of it applies to 'modern' designs would be up for debate.



Page 278
... which he saw with grim amusement was the Scriptures of Sebastian Thor.
He knew the volume on its back could not be the original, of course. That sat in a stasis-sealed vault on Ophelia VII, guarded by millions of Sororitas warriors and Ecclesiarchy troops, the likes of which he had once led into the fires of battle.
This was, at best, a tenth-generation copy, which still made it an insanely precious artefact
This could imply there are 'millions' of sororitas on Ophelia VII, but more likely it means Sororitas and Frateris 'troops' combined. Also we learn that even tenth generation copies of a Holy book are insanely 'valuable' artifacts, which makes you wonder how many generations/editions they have created in thousands of years.




PAge 280
Piezo-edged bone saws extruded from the arms of the throne and sliced through his wrists with ultra-rapid precision.
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Clicking machines with calliper hands like the nightmarish claws of a demented toymaker began stripping the skin, muscle and nerve tissue from his forearms all the way to the elbow. Surgical flesh-weavers layered replacement nerve-strands over the reinforced bone and grafted fibre-bundle muscle in place of the discarded organic tissue.
More tech tied to Arco-flagellant enhancements Not sure what 'Piezo-edged' means specifically, but my guess would be Piezosurgery of some kind, making it effectively a magically super sharp vibroblade (or a chain weapon, if oyu prefer.)but one that only works against bone specifically (piezosurgery, as the link notes, leaves regular tissues relatively unharmed.)

The rest of the tech is not terribly unusual - flesh weavers are often used to replace lost tissues or close wounds in certain medical technologies, and reinforcing bone and grafting muscle augmentations is not unusual tech either (Heck some hive gangers can afford it, as we know from the Ravenor novels.) But its still interesting, especially since they seem to be reworking-remaking the nervous system as well



Page 281
Delicate clamps kept his optic nerves taut as complex targeting arrays, broad-spectrum threat analysers and visio-cognitive orbs were attached in place of his eyes and implanted into his skull
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Detailed schematics of the body-plans of the men before him sprang up on the inner surfaces of his eyes, complete with endurable stresses, violation tolerances and a hundred other measures of how they could be ripped into screaming ruin.
Optical augmeitcs. In a rather gruesome scene specialized surgical tools literally pluck out the dude's eyes and optic nerves (whilst he is awake and aware and can SEE this) - heck he is aware of all the augmentations being inflicted on him - his hands lopped off to be replaced by augmetic limbs, his arms stripped down to the bones and remade and enhanced, his eyes torn out and augmetically replaced, and his brain messed with in various ways (even to the point of being aware they're opening his skull up.) Inflicting both pain and agony (literally mentioned) for over an hour before the transformation is complete.

We also see the effect of the vision and the interesting 'targeting' aspects it implies. Oh, and Abrahem witnesses ALL of this. And more, the POV of the Flagellant victim is that they're not destroying the 'bad' part of him or punishing him really, they're just enhancing and utilizing his fundamental nature and stripping away the 'useless' human elements that hamper that nature (the flagellant actually has a feeling of 'power' at his enhanced ability to kill.)



Page 282
...dripping onto a chest that now bulged with cardio-pulmonary enhancers, adrenal-slammers and dormant steroidal compounds. Spinal implants snaked down his back in a chain of injectors, and stimm-reservoirs on his shoulders...
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..dipping his hand in the pigment once more and drawing another series of four vertical lines down Krol’s chest. The ablative polymer coatings introduced to his dermal layers made the skin feel hard and plastic.
More Arco-flagellant augmentations. The surgical/augmetic enhancement stuff in a chemical way is interesting, but the 'ablative polymer coatings' introduced onto/over/into his skin is even more interesting - some sort of augmetic body-armour enhancement?




Page 283-285
To think that one man could conceive of such things was repellent enough, but to know that entire cadres of the Ecclesiarchy had been dragged into the maelstrom of his insanity by unquestioning devotion was almost too much to bear. How many billions had died at the hands of the very institution that proclaimed its mission was to protect them?
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"And now you know who X-42 was, do you still think he should be released from his condition? Would you restore the man he was?"
"Thor’s blood, no!" cried Abrehem. "Lukasz Krol was a monster."
"He was indeed," agreed Ismael, "but Lukasz Krol was once a good man, a man driven by faith in the Emperor to excesses of violence against the enemies of Mankind. But he began to see deviance and heresy everywhere he looked, and his bloody pogroms soon turned on his own people."
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"The Ecclesiarchy are understandably reluctant to admit to one of their own going insane. Some, like Vandire or Bucharis, are impossible to deny, but Krol’s reign of atrocity was mercifully short-lived and confined to a single system."
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"Check the pacifier helm and seal that monster in there again. We can’t risk that any shred of Lukasz Krol might still be in there."
"There will always be something of him in there," said Ismael, gently lowering Abrehem to the cot bed. "And that is the greatest tragedy."
The other side of the arco-flagellant coine Abrehem witnesses. Or rather how big a monster he was to have all that pain and horror inflicted on him (to add onto what is commented above, they mention 'rape gulags', 'experimentation camps' and 'torture palaces' that occured at the behest of this guy.) Its an interesting revisit of what we saw with Ismael in the first book, only turned on its head and in a much more complicated manner. I mean the arco-flagellation punishment was pretty inhumane and brutal... but so was what the guy actually did. Was there justiifcation in that? Its interestng to compare Abrehem's reactions before and then (his outrage, which mirrored how he felt about Ismael and the idea that the flagellant was his 'slave', and his reactions after when the horror of those actions were exposed to him, and he viewed the punishment as justified.) because it really draws his own actions and beliefs up to this point into question. What seemed so certain at the end of the first book (how he and the other bondsmen were abused and mistreated, leading to the 'strike' that happened in this book) has dissolved into much uncertainty once more.

Ismael's own reaction is interesting as well, since he clearly has a more sympathetic view than Abrehem does. It isn't that he condones what Krol did, but he knows the situation is more complex than 'he is a bad man' - one driven to extremes and horror by the nature of the universe, the situation he finds himself in, and his beliefs. Its a dilemma that more interestingly depicts that 'galaxy of war/horror' angle 40K is supposed to represent better than simply 'RAR HUGE NUMBERS OF PEOPL DIE' because it forces you to think about it as a complex, gray-area issue rather than some simple grimdark window dressing flavour text.

It's also a larger comment on the nature of the Ecclesiarchy itself, both its good side and dark side, as the extremes of faith are omnipresent in that (The fanaticism that can drive humanity to commit genocide or inflict horrible tortures on their fellow man or other living beings), as well as that political bit that hides its own dark secrets as readily as any othre faction does.



Page 286
The Speranza had already passed the outer planets of the uncannily geometric system and would achieve orbit within another two days at most. No-one had yet named their destination, for if the Lost Magos was indeed alive and well on the forge world’s surface, it was likely he had already done so, and Archmagos Kotov was nothing if not a stickler for the proper taxonomy of planetary nomenclature.
Two days to travle insystem, although we dont know the distances. If its 1-2 AU the accels are easily single digit and maybe 2-3 thousand km/s top speed, whereass something closer to a billion km (10+ AU) would be over 20 gees and 6-7% of c.



Page 286-287
Wandering through row upon row of titanic cylindrical towers like grain silos, he tasted the greasy tang of bulk foodstuffs, and realised he was looking at the Speranza’s food supplies. Roboute walked along a raised walkway between the towers, coming at last to a chamber filled with noxious smells and eye-watering caustic vapours. Three dozen enormous vats, two hundred metres across, stretched into the distance, each filled with a grey-brown sludge of reclaimed matter, meat substitutes, protein pastes and complex carbohydrate additives.
Admech food processing onboard ship.If we figure they're as tall as they are wide and the density of water (reasonable approximation) all 3 vats would be around 18 million tons worth of food. Figure half a kilo to a kilo of food per person per day (rough estimate on my part) you're talking about billions of days worth of food for one person, or one day of food for billions. Even if you juggle the numbers to some midpoint (say like food for hundreds of thousands of people for a whole decade) its pretty crazy.




Page 293
Any fears that, upon achieving his goal, Kotov would be disappointed by what he found at the end of his quest had been shattered utterly in the last three days. The final approach to Telok’s forge world had been a sensory overload in unique celestial phenomena. Not only were the star systems around the forge world clustered tighter than any other system-grouping Kotov knew, but the Kuiper belt, planetary bodies and asteroid fields within the central system travelled in orbits as precise as any engineered by an atomic clockmaker.
The system – which Kotov still insisted on leaving unnamed – comprised twelve planets, each one equidistant from its inner and outer neighbour. All were of roughly Terran size and composition, with the exception of three gas giants in the system’s central belt, between which vast fields of asteroid debris hung in glimmering curtains of ejected matter and ice.
Seems it takes 3 days to reach the forge world from (I am guessing) the edge of the system. We dont know the exact distances again, but its strongly implied to be 3+ AU or so given that the worlds are implied to be equidistant from each other. If we figure the 'habitable' planet is approximately 1 AU from the sun and figure there are at least 2-3 planets before it (suggesting an average of 50-75 million km between planets) you could get the aformentioned 3-12 AU at leats easily. 3 AU in 3 days would be 1.2% c top speed and about 3 gees average speed (impressive for a vessel the size of Speranza really) whilst on the other end it would be closer to 12 gees and nearly 5% of c.

On the other hand the 'kuiper belt' would imply considerably more distance (30+ AU perhaps) which would be 30+ gees and 12% of c.




Page 295
Telok’s forge world was bathed in a purple haze of borealis, beautiful in a way that only devotees of the Machine could truly appreciate. The shimmering corona was a by-product of inhumanly massive energy generation on a planetary scale. Kotov had seen such hazes around forge worlds before, but never on so bright and consistent a level. The quantity of energy being generated was enough to empower the manufactories of at least six Exactis Prima-level production hubs.
The planet was roughly double the Martian mass and boasted an atmosphere capable of being processed by human lungs. Its geology was unknown, as was anything else of its surface conditions. Initial surveys had proved maddeningly inconclusive, with each sweep of the auspex revealing contradictory data-streams that on one pass revealed a planet undergoing traditional – if somewhat accelerated – ageing, while on another echoed Vitali Tychon’s data from Hypatia, which appeared to indicate signs of geological regression. Yet, as impossible as such readings appeared to be, Kotov had almost become used to encountering the inexplicable. After all, had not the Breath of the Gods remade Arcturus Ultra and transformed it from a dead system into one that would eventually prove to be habitable?
Telok's forge world and the implication of output of forge worlds in general and its implied mass. Although given the temporal and warp-based fuckery seeming to go on with this stuff, I'm at the moment hesitant to make much in the way of predictions beyond energy level and the implied mass of said planet.




Page 298
Kotov nodded, feeling a potent sense of anticipation at the thought of setting foot on Telok’s forge world. Travelling to the fiefdom of another magos was always a time of great importance, a chance to share data, pursue new directions in the interpretation of techno-arcana and barter services and information to further the Quest for Knowledge. What might he learn on the world of an archmagos unfettered from the censure of his peers and the restrictions of Universal Laws?
Here Kotov seems to be displaying a certain Radical leaning with his comments about the 'restrictions of Universal Laws', but its interesting how he views interactions between forge worlds- the exchange (trading) of information and services in an 'economic' fashion (trade something to get something of equal value.) It really reinforces that to the AdMech technology is their source of power and their currency and how they survive within the Imperium, within the AdMech itself and withinthe galaxy at large. It also indirectly reinforces why the AdMech is so secretive, both with other Imperial institutions and between individual forge worlds (knowledge is power, and all that.) which is a not-so-minor drawback when it comes to Imperial tech advancement (how can tech progress if they hoard it rather than sharing it, after all?)



Page 301
"It is like flying through a hundred thunderstorms at once,’ said Tanna as a booming pressure wave slammed into the gunship’s fuselage."
"This is not a thunderstorm," said Kotov as Tanna corrected their flight path.
"Then what is it?"
"The inevitable consequence of planet-wide power generation."
Power generation of uber-forgeworld likened to a hundred thunderstorms. Not sure how accurate a comparison that is meant to be, but if literally taken I'd guess its well in excess of terawatt level power, quite probably petawatt at least.




PAge 308-309
Her legs had been amputated at mid-thigh, but augmetic replacements had already been fashioned by Magos Turentek that closely mimicked the appearance of human limbs.
The rest of the damage had been largely cosmetic, and the vat-grown skin patches were showing signs of renewed growth. It would never be the same as human skin, but it was as close as could be created without a clone donor – and Linya had always been adamant that she could never allow another life to be brought into being simply to act as a repository for spare organs.
Augmetic vs clone replacements. Bionic/prosthetic limbs can come close to simulating human body parts that are lost but are not identical - that requires cloning. Apparently as well they cannont (at least in these circumstnaces) clone the separate organs, but must clone the whole being and harvest their organs. Rather more limited than I previously believed, but it still points to them being able to create large-scale clones successfully (thus having cloning technology.) although Linya seems against the practice.

And once again 'vat grown' skin is quite similar but not identical to human skin.



Page 310
Vitali was no warrior and had always eschewed the implantation of weaponry within his body-plan, but right now he would have gladly had an integral beam weapon or energy sword.
I'd guess energy sword could refer either to a power weapon... or a lightsaber-like blade. We know both kinds exist aftera ll.
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