Youtube source for all Legend of the Galactic Heroes series

[Lord Relvenous]

Hey guys, I thought I would share the channel I found last night. I have had LoGH recommended to me before, but it was always a torrent link to download the series. However, this guy has from what I can tell every piece of animated LoGH stuff in one playlist.

Definitely worth a look if you're interested in large scale space opera. From what I saw in just the first movie (well worth the 56 minutes to watch), it looks like both military strategy and political maneuvering are going to play a very large part. I'm sure others who have watched the series could give a better recommendation of it.

The playlist

[Simon_Jester]

Why thank you. I've been looking for this ever since Megaupload went down (it was available for direct download from there).

I downloaded both gaidens and the first season from there, but that computer is now defunct.

[krakonfour]

Thanks. I'll try and get over the pretty old animation and ridiculous space battles to appreciate the story.

[Simon_Jester]

Honestly, LoGH space battles are pretty nonridiculous for soft SF, at least in my opinion. Though we can certainly discuss that and I'm open to persuasion.

[Tandrax218]

whoa this is new to me

I watched the first 2 movies and then went straight to episode 3 of the series. I like the feel and the size of the battles - 20.000 ships on both sides + thoussands of fighter, it puts wh40k to shame sometimes
I like the story of the two commanders on opposite sides. I even like the feel of the empire - prussians in space

bu what i cant sometimes get over is the weapon systems used.
Basically you have cruiser sized ships with 1000-1500 people on board that fly through space using newtonian physics. And they are full of "laser" ( i dont know the exact name, for discussion's sake lets call them "lasers") batterys. Now the thing i'm bothered is why would you make a space ship with 100+ laser guns on all sides, and not put any armor?? Most of the ships get hit 3-4 times somwhere on the hull, the lasers eats/melts through and BOOM- giant red explosion of death - survivors -0. If you put so advance weapons systems on a ship does it not make sence to make said ship survivable in cace of attack by equal force. I mean the shipbuilders of ww1 & 2 had a policy or concept that if you put a 15'' gun on a ship as its main weapon then that ship can take multiple hits from said weapon of equal or less cattegory and still be somewhat functional to retur fire, run o do something else.
In here the ships are glass canons, only the white ship of comander blondy is able to sustain 10+ hits and not be effective. ( on a second thought i dont know if it was even hit since both sides fire the same "blue laser" beams so i dont know if it was fireing or being fired on)...
And then you have the scene where a fighter cuts up a capittal ship in a few shots.

I get the idea of the authors was to make a "napoleonic warfare " series in space with ships instead of soldiers (1ship - 1 soldier metaphore here) but sometimes i think they did it a bit wrong.
But then again if they did not made it the way it is then the whole "chess Game" duel of tactics beetween blondy and blacky would not be posible....

stll am going to watch this ....

[krakonfour]

The ships have shields, and the weapons are particle beams that are more effective at close range. This is why they have those little fighters: they can place capital ship weapon right next to the target.

There is little to no armor because anything that goes through the shield will fry you anyway.

[Simon_Jester]

whoa this is new to me

I watched the first 2 movies and then went straight to episode 3 of the series. I like the feel and the size of the battles - 20.000 ships on both sides + thoussands of fighter, it puts wh40k to shame sometimes

40k, pooh. What it puts me in mind of is the galaxy-sized warfare of Edward Elmer Smith and other Golden Age masters.

bu what i cant sometimes get over is the weapon systems used.
Basically you have cruiser sized ships with 1000-1500 people on board that fly through space using newtonian physics. And they are full of "laser" ( i dont know the exact name, for discussion's sake lets call them "lasers") batterys. Now the thing i'm bothered is why would you make a space ship with 100+ laser guns on all sides, and not put any armor??

My take on it is that the ships' beam weapons have decisively outperformed armor technology- their material science isn't that much better than ours, so something like a megaton/second beam weapon is more than they can cope with. The intensity and power of the attack simply burns through any practical depth of armor plating made from the available materials.

This, too, recalls for me Doc Smith- which is full of ships that fight doggedly until one side loses shields and boils in a cloud of metal vapor, because the beam weapons are so powerful nothing made out of atoms can survive fire from them.

[Tandrax218]

so what is the point in having a ship of 1500 people on board if they all die when they get hit 2 times??

And wouldn't it be better to have the fighters do all the work, Because when they get close they instant kill anything any way?? In the 1. movie "sea of stars" the body count was for the alliance side +2000000 dead and 18000 something destroyed ships... in just 1 battle.

And the big ships if they are so vulnerableto fighters why don't they have some flak guns or particle beams for attacking small craft?? Hell CIWS in space would work also...

And another thing...
Those capital ships die from a missile salvo just as easily...

[Tandrax218]

newer read this lensman thing, always sounded like some guy in a rocket with a jet pack and a blaster doing stuff in space hahaha
something like captain proton wfrom star treck voyager lol

but now i read something on line about the series , so i might give it a shot...

[Simon_Jester]

newer read this lensman thing, always sounded like some guy in a rocket with a jet pack and a blaster doing stuff in space hahaha
something like captain proton wfrom star treck voyager lol

...To me this makes you sound amazingly ignorant. You're being awfully dismissive.

so what is the point in having a ship of 1500 people on board if they all die when they get hit 2 times??

Because they're the only type of ship that can carry beams of such power, and if you didn't have them, the enemy would slaughter your entire fleet from twice your effective weapon range?

And the big ships if they are so vulnerableto fighters why don't they have some flak guns or particle beams for attacking small craft?? Hell CIWS in space would work also...

That is a reasonable question. For one, some ships DO seem to have such turrets or flanking armament, we see them. For another, fighters don't seem to kill heavy ships all that often. Sure, they can do so without too much difficulty, but it's not as though a majority of all starships are being killed by them. This suggests that something prevents the fighters from doing so; I can think of a number of possibilities, all of which add up to "fighters aren't a win button even if we've seen them be very effective sometimes."