Retake earth from the Invid

[mr friendly guy]

Similar scenario to the attack by the Robotech expeditionary force but you call the shots with the aim to minimise loss of your military assets. You have one year prep time. Note as per Robotech, it seems we have the numerical superiority, although the battle still went against us.

1. Scenario one - the Haydonites give you the technology as per Robotech Shadow chronicles, eg synchro cannons, stealth shadow tech and neutron S missiles. You however know all that happens in all episodes of Robotech and the outcome of the Shadow chronicles.

2. Scenario two - instead of the Haydonites, you get <insert other sci fi franchise here> to give you tech to help you. Which other sci fi civ helps you is for you to decide. Preferably pick the lowest powered ones.

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In scenario one, I would use the neutron S missiles to clear space of the Invid. We know from Shadow Chronicles that one preset to detonate wiped out an entire Haydonite fleet. We also know that the Invid Regis recognises it, but she has to get a visual first. So we can load it on a ship (hence Regis can't see it), pre set and send them off against the Invid while keeping all of my mecha in the clear.

I would also not load up the neutron s missiles in the SDF 3. We know it got crippled when the neutron s missiles misfired, and shortly after attacked by Haydonite ships which have the ability to cause our own missiles to misfire. Coincidence? Unlikely. The neutron S missile most likely misfired because the Haydonite was already using their disruptor wave. So in this scenario I would keep the neutron S missiles with the fleet, and have the SDF 3 join the fleet. Presumably it has a big gun which will also help with the battle. Any Invid that survived the barrage of neutron s missiles will find itself targeted by the SDF 3's main weapons.

Next is missile spam. We know that the Invid mecha are more agile than human mecha. However we see repeatedly human mecha rip out hordes of Invid crimson "grunts" with missile spam. For example Mira Stirling destroyed 24 of them in one missile spam attack. After the missiles are exhausted, the Invid then have the advantage due to their greater speed and agility. Also note that only the Invid commanders seem to have equivalent technology to counter our missile spam. With that in mind I would set up a supply ship whose purpose is to load up the mecha with missiles.

So after firing the neutron S missiles, and the SDF's main guns, instruct some mecha to use missile spam then retreat back to the supply ship to load up with more missiles. Then instruct the next wave to do so, rinse and repeat. If we run out, then have them use the synchro cannons in waves as well. If necessary pull the cruiser ships back while being screened by mecha to give the mecha time to reload.

Once we gained space superiority, nuke the Invid hive. In season 3 of Robotech, we know the final assault at reflex point they managed to penetrate the Invid hive using a cannon which definitely did not have kilotons of damage. Since the Robotech expeditionary force was willing to sacrifice the entire earth, then the relatively small area around the hive would be considered acceptable to the Robotech expeditionary force. Presumably we haven't lost nuclear technology even if we do utilise protoculture. We just need a bomber to be screened by other mecha. Since its not a protoculture weapon, there is no reason why Regis would suspect it to be anything different to the usual bombs we use.

If the Hive is still around, we nuke it again. If the smoke makes it hard for laser guidance, we build GPS like satellites during the one year prep time, and use mecha or cruisers to launch them once we gain space superiority to help target through the smoke. Rinse and repeat the nukes.

[Galvatron]

Robotech is a mess.

I always wondered why the UEEF couldn't just bombard Reflex Point from orbit with their ship-mounted synchro cannons. It worked for the Zentraedi.

TSC showed us that both the SDF-4 and at least some of the Garfish had big guns.

[mr friendly guy]

Robotech is a mess.

I always wondered why the UEEF couldn't just bombard Reflex Point from orbit with their ship-mounted synchro cannons. It worked for the Zentraedi.

TSC showed us that both the SDF-4 and at least some of the Garfish had big guns.

If I had to make up an in universe explanation, they would have to maybe clear the Invid from space first, or else the ship would be constantly harassed by the Invid. Worse case scenario the ship gets damaged before it could fire. Thus the strategy would be to win space superiority first, or failing that to send a strike force against Reflex point at the same time, which was what they did.

[SAMAS]

Because unlike the Zentaedi, the UEF wanted the planet afterwards.

And what the hell are you thinking actually using the Neutron-S missiles? You know those were a trap, right? Hell even in Mospeada, they would have vaporized North America, in Robotech they were Black Hole Bombs.

[mr friendly guy]

Because unlike the Zentaedi, the UEF wanted the planet afterwards.

And what the hell are you thinking actually using the Neutron-S missiles? You know those were a trap, right? Hell even in Mospeada, they would have vaporized North America, in Robotech they were Black Hole Bombs.

I thought it exploded because the attacking Haydonites used that disruptor ray to cause all Haydonite tech to explode prematurely. Since the Invid don't have a disruptor ray, I figured use it to destroy the Invid before the Haydonites can use it against us with their disruptor ray.

Edit - I don't recall a black hole forming when the humans detonated a Neutron S missile inside space station liberty to destroy the Haydonite fleet. I was thinking of repeating that type of attack against the Invid.

[Sidewinder]

Because unlike the Zentaedi, the UEF wanted the planet afterwards.

And what the hell are you thinking actually using the Neutron-S missiles? You know those were a trap, right? Hell even in Mospeada, they would have vaporized North America, in Robotech they were Black Hole Bombs.

I thought it exploded because the attacking Haydonites used that disruptor ray to cause all Haydonite tech to explode prematurely. Since the Invid don't have a disruptor ray, I figured use it to destroy the Invid before the Haydonites can use it against us with their disruptor ray.

Edit - I don't recall a black hole forming when the humans detonated a Neutron S missile inside space station liberty to destroy the Haydonite fleet. I was thinking of repeating that type of attack against the Invid.

When SDF-3 test-fired a Neutron-S missile, in 'The Shadow Chronicles', a black hole formed and began pulling the ship into itself.