Killing the T-1000

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2002-09-01 05:21pm

Just one thing before I start, anyone know when terminator 3 and 4 come out? I read the Arnold agreed to do them.
Ok, so besides the way the T-1000 was destroyed in terminator 2 (by the way I think the idea for changelings in DS9 were ripped off from him) how else can they be destroyed. It makes you wonder doesn't it, how they killed them in the future war against the machines. There's only a few different (and drastic) ways I can't think of to destroy one. One of course is absorb him into a hot steel like what happened in the movie, but other ways I can think of are of course vaporize him, and how exactly does hydrochloric and sulfuric acid effect liquid mercury, it's a metal so I guess it should effect it normally. And one other way I can think of is to use ionizing radiation against him. Yes, so he was blown into blobs of liquid mercury in the second film, but that is merely a a change on the physical level, not the atomic, if you uses this radiation against him, it would ionize his mercury atoms, knocking off electrons so they would bond irregularly, or not at all, no reforming for him, does gamma radiation ionize? And one thing they never talked about was what does the T-1000 have exactly for hardware that controls him, a liquid microchip perhaps? And where does the energy to power him come from, and how could he replenish it?

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-09-01 05:54pm

I don't know about the T-1000, but if video games have taught me anything, it's that robocop can destroy skynet.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2002-09-01 06:17pm

A t1000 is made of nanobots.
Plasma kills nanobots...
The rebells own plasma rifles...

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-01 07:05pm

Heat and Energy Transfer kills it quite well so any sort of Flame-thrower would do well and if it realy is made of nano-bots 10 Thousand Volts should put it down quite handly

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2002-09-01 07:10pm

Do scenes in specal editions count?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-09-01 07:48pm

Ok, so besides the way the T-1000 was destroyed in terminator 2 ...how else can they be destroyed. It makes you wonder doesn't it, how they killed them in the future war against the machines.

The T-1000 was only under development at the time Skynet was on the ropes. It was even said to be a prototype; the humans simply didn't have to face them on the battlefield.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2002-09-01 08:04pm

The T-1000 was only under development at the time Skynet was on the ropes. It was even said to be a prototype; the humans simply didn't have to face them on the battlefield.

But Kyle said that the humans had already won the war (Kyle "thier defense grid was smashed, we had won, taking out Connor then would have made no difference") before he was sent back in time, and that John Connor was going to blow the place with the time displacement equipment, after Kyle went through. And he said no one else would come through, I guess that was the only place that had the time displacement equipment. Makes you wonder why terminator 2 ever happened at all. All I can think of is Kyle's time trip changed the future somehow. Where did you hear that the T-1000 was under development when they were losing? Maybe it's possible the T-1000 was unique as was it's purpose.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-09-01 08:10pm

Shrykull wrote:The T-1000 was only under development at the time Skynet was on the ropes. It was even said to be a prototype; the humans simply didn't have to face them on the battlefield.

But Kyle said that the humans had already won the war (Kyle "thier defense grid was smashed, we had won, taking out Connor then would have made no difference") before he was sent back in time, and that John Connor was going to blow the place with the time displacement equipment, after Kyle went through. And he said no one else would come through, I guess that was the only place that had the time displacement equipment. Makes you wonder why terminator 2 ever happened at all. All I can think of is Kyle's time trip changed the future somehow. Where did you hear that the T-1000 was under development when they were losing? Maybe it's possible the T-1000 was unique as was it's purpose.

No, Skynet simply could have sent though 2-2000 Terminators, one after the other before having the time machine overrun. When such is your only hope, you don’t take half measures.

If I were Skynet I'd send Terminator though to every time I had a firm position fix on Conner.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2002-09-01 08:18pm

"I don't know about the T-1000, but if video games have taught me anything, it's that robocop can destroy skynet."

Nah, ever see robocop 2 where they strip him down? I think Kane had that place specifically set up to tackle robocop if he showed up. a machine gun to blow his hand off, a huge hook to knock him down, a magnetic lifter to put him on a table where they hold him down with chains, and remove his limbs with jackhammers, sledgehammers and a circular saw, ouchie! He was stupid to go alone, but I wonder if robocop 2 (aka- huge robot with Kane's brain) could handle it. they couldn't shoot off his limbs, he has weapons all over him (including a nifty 10,000 volt stun-gun which does more than stun! And a battering ram type appendage with can go through walls) And , the hook not sure would knock him down, he'd have more then enough weapons to deal with them all.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-09-01 08:52pm

Robocop vs Terminator, Robocop destroys skynet.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2002-09-02 12:16am

"No, Skynet simply could have sent though 2-2000 Terminators, one after the other before having the time machine overrun. When such is your only hope, you don’t take half measures."

Hmm, well that seems a bit confusing, Skynet sent 1 T-800 to 1984 to kill Sarah, and one to (T-2 is in 1997 right?) 1997 to kill John, why send both? Just as a contingency plan? One of them only need succeed, and if the first one did you would have sent the T-1000 for nothing.

"If I were Skynet I'd send Terminator though to every time I had a firm position fix on Conner."

How would you have a fix on him? He's in the past, and all you have is history to go on, I suppose if the attack failed you'd know it, but it was too late they had already destroyed Skynet, no chance to send another terminator.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-09-02 01:51pm

No, Skynet simply could have sent though 2-2000 Terminators, one after the other before having the time machine overrun. When such is your only hope, you don’t take half measures.

Skynet sent only a few terminators back because it was fighting for it's life. It's pretty clear time travel requires a lot of power and it could only spare so much. Any power woul have come from it's defenses which were on the ropes. The same goes for the terminators themselves. A few won't be missed, a few thousand will.

Plus, Skynet stikes me as being very conservative. It wouldn't take the risk of sending back an army of terminators. By all rights, the T-800 should hav done the job. The T-1000 was back up. An army of termies would make a much bigger disruption of the natural timeline. It wants to protect itself, not prove it's existence. Humanity would certainly be warned BEFORE skynet was created. And probably just as important, it doesn't trust it's own minions. Skynet is very afraid of a rebellion.

Hmm, well that seems a bit confusing, Skynet sent 1 T-800 to 1984 to kill Sarah, and one to (T-2 is in 1997 right?) 1997 to kill John, why send both? Just as a contingency plan? One of them only need succeed, and if the first one did you would have sent the T-1000 for nothing.

T2 is set in 94 or 95 if I remember right. Judgement Day was originally supposed to occur in 1997.

Skynet's desperate at this point One terminator (no matter how advanced) more or less won't make a difference. It sent the both to make sure the job got done.

Seele · Post by **Seele** » 2002-09-02 03:01pm

I always thought that Skynet sent back the T-1000 but since Skynet could only make one, it sent a T-800 to 1984 as the backup, not vise versa like some people of mentioned.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2002-09-02 03:02pm

Shrykull wrote:"No, Skynet simply could have sent though 2-2000 Terminators, one after the other before having the time machine overrun. When such is your only hope, you don’t take half measures."

Hmm, well that seems a bit confusing, Skynet sent 1 T-800 to 1984 to kill Sarah, and one to (T-2 is in 1997 right?) 1997 to kill John, why send both? Just as a contingency plan? One of them only need succeed, and if the first one did you would have sent the T-1000 for nothing.

"If I were Skynet I'd send Terminator though to every time I had a firm position fix on Conner."

How would you have a fix on him? He's in the past, and all you have is history to go on, I suppose if the attack failed you'd know it, but it was too late they had already destroyed Skynet, no chance to send another terminator.

Skynet sent back the T-800 ao it would exist. If it didn't, the neural net processor would never be found, and thus no sky-net. It sent back the T-1000 to kill Connor, and it sent the T-X (in T3 which comes out 2003) as its backup plan, I think.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2002-09-05 09:14pm

BOOOHYA I FINALLY KILLED A THREAD