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1. People that really do "know people" keep those secrets to themselves.

2. The UK members here could probably help with this better, but maybe a call to the local constable in this guy's neighborhood is worth a try. A visit from a bobby or two might help adjust his attitude :twisted:

3. Given how far knowledge of these incidents is spreading, this guy has no idea of what a runaway train he's conducting...
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BrandonBray wrote:This guy is not only still threatening to sue me, but now is appears as if he is threatening to KILL me.

In his last e-mail, he said that he was once in the military, that he knows people in certain places, that he worked for certain organizations he cannot name, and suggested he was going to have me killed.

...

No.

I’m serious.

Killed.

A bluff and a pathetic one at that. He's tried scaring you with talk about his solicitors, now he thinks phony death-threats will have you quaking in your boots.

The moron is digging himself in deeper with each round of a fight he lost with the opening bell.
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This guy is not only still threatening to sue me, but now is appears as if he is threatening to KILL me.

In his last e-mail, he said that he was once in the military, that he knows people in certain places, that he worked for certain organizations he cannot name, and suggested he was going to have me killed.

...

No.

I’m serious.

Killed.

Isn’t that illegal? If not illegal, it is defiantly sounds like the statement of a deranged person.
Yep, it's illegal. Depending on what state you live in it's a "terroristic threat," (same as a bomb threat).
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Seems to me this guy cant possibly be over 16....either that or he was dropped on his head a lot as a child....
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Forward the death threat to his ISP, maybe they'll have sense enough to close his account. Unless he can show slander, he has no case against you at all.
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Do you have his personal address? If so, get together with your lawyer and have him write up a nice letter to this nice man, signed by your lawyer, telling him, in a nutshell, that he can legally fuck off.
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And now for a word from the BozoAlliance's ISP...
6. You shall not use the Freeola Services to publish, link to, post or otherwise transmit:

6.1. any material that is defamatory, pornographic, obscene, indecent, abusive, offensive, menacing or which may incite violence, cruelty or racial hatred, or which is in any other way unlawful;
6.2. any material that infringes the copyright, trade mark or other intellectual property rights of any party;
6.3. unsolicited promotional e-mail or other bulk e-mail (spam);
6.4. computer viruses, Trojan Horses, worms, or other destructive or contaminating code or program or any information that advises any other party how to do such acts;
6.5. streaming data, downloads or web pages accessible to the public or any matter which is likely to create a heavy load upon the systems or bandwidth of Freeola.com.
If he's sending you death threats, I would seriously ask them to close his account. You've obviously got solid grounds for doing so under the copyright infringment provision alone.
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Here is one of the most recent e-mails I have been sent, by the DracoAlliance owner. The content of the e-mail has not been edited, save to remove my address (hey, if I have to work to find this stuff, so do you guys.) ;) though I have highlighted parts, which I feel need attention drawn to them.
Re: your most recent mail.

I have just spoken with my brother and as I stated earlier he is as sorry as I am about this matter.
More to the point, he considers family more important than sci-fi fandom and so do I. He has agreed to write a statement to the fact that the actions taken to create a website for Draco Alliance (i.e. copying your site) were his and his alone. So therefore the slanderous remarks about me being a liar will make interesting reading to any legal representation.

Thank you for the address, although this does not tie in with my investigations, I will add it to my files in case it is needed. There is no need for all this, but you are taking me for a fool. I wish to point out that I was not always a train driver, I am 40 years old and have plenty of history behind me, both military and other ... organisations shall we say. I still have friends in the right places.

The address you gave was:

EDITED OUT

My initial investigations involved a phone call and this is the first piece of info I was given ... a couple of addresses.

EDITED

EDITED


These may prove to be nothing and lead nowhere, however the second address rings a bell and this was just from my initial inquiry. More info will be given to me as the days click by. Perhaps you would like to threaten me with some sort of Privacy act?

I will ask one more time.
Please remove all reference to Draco Alliance from your site and forum and end this nonsense.

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Copying, forwarding or distributing this message by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. This email may have been monitored for policy compliance.
Wow.

:lol:

What do you all think of that?

He's 40 years old - says he was in the military and that he was in other ... organisations, and claims to still have friends in the right places.

Am I the only one who feels that this sounds like an implied threat? :roll:

Am I the only one who feels that these statements suggest he might take actions to instigate violence upon my person? :roll:
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If you're in the U.S. and he's in another country, isn't it a federal matter that he threatened to kill you? You should get the Feds to take of this. :D
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BrandonBray wrote: What do you all think of that?

He's 40 years old - says he was in the military and that he was in other ... organisations, and claims to still have friends in the right places.

Am I the only one who feels that this sounds like an implied threat?
Combined with his admission that he's been looking up your personal address, you could easily interpret it that way.
BrandonBray wrote: Am I the only one who feels that these statements suggest he might take actions to instigate violence upon my person?
I assume you are keeping all of his correspondence in case you need it as evidence. Print hard copies and back them up to floppy, zip, or CD in case you need them to be portable. If you know a good lawyer who gives free consultations, you might ask to see if he thinks you've got a real case.

Again, I would long since have contacted his ISP about his behavior. They shouldn't permit this kind of thing.
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I'm keeping everything on back-up.

I really don't think this guy will try anything, but if he does I've got all the evidence I think I need.
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So, he claims he was in the military..lets go find Rob Wilson and have this fool interrogated (politely, of course) via email or somesuch to asess the validty of this claim.
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Yet another e-mail.

God, this is getting dumb.
Received and understood. (About the legal contract stuff posted above.)

Glad to see you got the e-mail.

As I have stated in an email to one of your colleagues, two members of Draco Alliance are from the legal profession, one a Barrister and the other a High Court Judge. The Barrister is aware of certain facts pertaining to our problem, but has not been privy to any materials so far and will not be for another six days (hopefully he wont have to be either). But he is advising me on what I can and cannot do.

And what "colleagues" would that be? As for the Judge and Barrister you know - you say they are away of "certain facts" but they are not "privy" to any materials? So... what? You told them your point of view about what's happened, but relayed to them none of the facts?
Did you mention to them that you had plagiarised my site (i.e. unlawful duplication), and that you never had written consent to duplicate material from my website, or the other websites your own site stole from? Did you mention to them that you did not have "fair use" of my website, as duplication without massive alteration of intent and/or content is not fair use.
Did you mention to them that you have sent e-mails to me stating the following:
I am 40 years old and have plenty of history behind me, both military and other ... organisations shall we say. I still have friends in the right places.
-- which reads like an implied threat to do bodily harm to another person and, given your existing claim that you "called someone" to get my address and are still looking for more information about my physical location, supports the idea that the above, was indeed, a threat to do bodily harm to myself?

Did you mention to them that, your site's actions in copying my website without permission, and of sending me what amounts to a threat of violence, violates the following "Terms of Service" with your domain host:
6. You shall not use the Freeola Services to publish, link to, post or otherwise transmit:
6.1. any material that is defamatory, pornographic, obscene, indecent, abusive, offensive, menacing or which may incite violence, cruelty or racial hatred, or which is in any other way unlawful;
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This whole situation has got completely out of control and is unnecessary, we can both agree to back down gracefully or can both go the whole hog.

I'm not the one threatening to take legal actions, without (as far as I can tell) any legal basis for those threats.

I thank you once again for removing reference to Draco Alliance from you site and hope that you will remove all reference to Draco Alliance and myself from your forum within the next six days. I hope you have received my support against and advice on the use of 'E-mail bombing and viruses'.

I removed any comment/link to your site, because I have no desire to advertise for you - in any way - given your site's past actions and your recent behavior. I didn't remove it to be nice, but because I was going to do it anyway.
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If it were me, I'd publish a discussion of this soap opera along with all of his E-mails on a special page on your site and then link to it from the main page.
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Ditto. I strongly suggest that you place these entire discussions in a dedicated page.
It will calm him down considerably.
It will bring shame to him, his group, and his website.
It will allow your hundreds of readers to see his threats.

AND, forward these messages as they are to his ISP.
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Why move it to my web page, when I can just archive it at the b.board and let it sit?

What is the benefit of my putting it on my website, over leaving the debates and debate history, where they are?
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I suppose you could simply link to the BBS thread from your main page.
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LOL. Wow, he found your address! How clever. I just found it too. All it took was one quick trip to a certain website.

(not a threat, just a bit of info)
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Post by BrandonBray »

Yeah, tell me about it.

This is all very silly and very annoying.

I guess every good Sysop has to go through this once.

Brian Young went through this, Mike goes through this on a weekly basis, as does Curtis Saxon and now... me. :p
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My condolances Brandon. This prat makes us Brits look really bad

On behalf of the "limeys that are alright" I apologise that such as he could be called a member of the United Kingdom. You know if he had just emailed you and asked if he could add a normal link on a webpage directing interested parties to your site, this could have been avoided.

But no the twit had to go tealeaf your work. Dumb bastard.
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My advice: contact a lawyer that is good with IP, file a complaint in federal court and see about serving process on him (registered mail should work, but check into that), and get together with the other site administrators and see about joining up in the action.
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Wow, this guy is total moron. I would imagine his emails are enough to get his provider to drop him.
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GUESS WHAT!!!!

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:?

Well, will you guys look at this!

http://www.dracoalliance.com/index.php

DracoAlliance is back up and running... behind a password?

Hmmmm.

I wonder what is beyond that password?

Do you guys think he would continue to plagiarize my website, and just hide it behind a password?

I wonder...

Does anyone here, maybe, have the username and password to get INTO the hidden DracoAlliance website, so we can see?
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This idiot's stubborn refusal to admit he's done anything wrong is indicative of a severely underdeveloped sense of ethics.
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Im getting an error. Just the standard this page does not exit and all the services they offer.
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