Killing Kaiju?

[LadyTevar]

To kill the Mutos without Godzilla, we would have had to find a way to prevent them from feeding, and/or simply kill ONE of them before they mated. Human curiousity failed us there, as we kept both around for 'study', and then stored the female in the worst place possible. Killing the eggs before they hatch works, but it just means the Muto start learning to watch out for these little two-legged nest raiders and stomp them.

The big question is why the Muto had an EMP burst. It certainly did not seem to work against Godzilla, so it was not a weapon of defense/offence against his breed. It's highly unlikely that they were the only two species roaming the past, ecosystems do not work that way. So, in order for there to be this defense, there had to be a creature using electical fields somehow that needed disrupted. This is not that far-fetched, as modern sharks use electrical fields to detect hidden prey. So, did any of these Electrical Field beasts survive, or did they die out when they couldn't find Muto to eat?

[Majin Gojira]

If you recall, the first signs of the MUTOS was EM disturbances and EM communication over long distances (IIRC). The "Pulse" in that case would be them roaring in a language few other creatures understand. That it had the effect of 'driving away enemies' for the MUTO reinforced the behavior. But in short, they were 'roaring' with those pulses.

At least, that's what I figure. Some of their calls had an electronic tone to them.

[jwl]

That isn't proof he took a direct hit from the thing; it's a guy speculating as to the origins of '14 Godzilla.

Good point. That comic seems pretty specific, though.

I didn't notice that at first, but yeah...what's with the ships 250 million years ago?

What's with the giant monsters 250 million years ago?

According to the film and the back story, many of the nuclear tests (1954's Castle tests) were to try and kill Godzilla. So, we can assume that the disaster that was one of the ones that inspired the original film (Castle Bravo and the Lucky Dragon No. 5) is a culprit for "What can Godzilla (US) take and survive".

The Castle Bravo (the Lucky Dragon related test) was a 6 Megatons bomb. The most powerful Castle nuke was 8 Megatons.

So, it seems like 4 to 8 Megatons is the range of Godzilla's survivability. Average around 6.

I guess that means that Godzilla could most likely take a Category 5 Kaiju like Slantern.

Isn't Castle Bravo 15 Mt?

[biostem]

To kill the Mutos without Godzilla, we would have had to find a way to prevent them from feeding, and/or simply kill ONE of them before they mated. Human curiousity failed us there, as we kept both around for 'study', and then stored the female in the worst place possible. Killing the eggs before they hatch works, but it just means the Muto start learning to watch out for these little two-legged nest raiders and stomp them.

The big question is why the Muto had an EMP burst. It certainly did not seem to work against Godzilla, so it was not a weapon of defense/offence against his breed. It's highly unlikely that they were the only two species roaming the past, ecosystems do not work that way. So, in order for there to be this defense, there had to be a creature using electical fields somehow that needed disrupted. This is not that far-fetched, as modern sharks use electrical fields to detect hidden prey. So, did any of these Electrical Field beasts survive, or did they die out when they couldn't find Muto to eat?

TBH, I wrote off the EMP bursts as a side effect of their nuclear diet - sort of a waste product/form of excretion.


What was the overall time span of the movie supposed to be, (from the hatching of the male MUTO in Japan until the fight in CA)? It must have been at least weeks - if the thing flew from Japan to Hawaii, then to CA - that's about 5000 miles - are we supposed to believe that the male MUTO could fly several hundred miles per hour? Or do you think it was a more reasonable 50-80MPH?

[Majin Gojira]

Isn't Castle Bravo 15 Mt?

Oops, you're right. 4 to 8 is what they were expecting, but that's the one that went south and was too powerful for what they expected.

So that makes it even more clear that Godzilla is far more durable than Pacific Rim Kaiju--over 10 times as much, with far less damage dealt to him from what we know.

Just makes me want to write a scene of Godzilla battling a few of the colonist's Kaiju for shits and giggles.

[biostem]

Let's say this hypothetical Pacific Rim - Godzilla crossover happens. Personally, I'd like to see the situation be where the Jaegers are trying to fight other Kaiju, and actually get in the way of Godzilla trying to do his "job", and/or they attack Godzilla, thinking him to be another Kaiju, or Godzilla views the Jaegers as just another Kaiju, vying for territory/dominance - think about it, if the Jaegers are successful, and begin wracking up the victories, the big G may see it as unbalancing the natural order or being a rival...