Godzilla trailer
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How complicated can it be to design a fighting style involving slashing, biting and occasional fire-breathin'? I always get leery-eyed when filmmakers try to introduce "realism" and "verisimilitude" when the movie is about something as unrealistic as a 500m tall lizard in the first place. Just like that frankly dumb conceit of making vampires some sort of viral sickness, it's just dumb, distractive and makes it harder to suspend disbelief.
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The main issue is giving the fighting a sense of weight and power. That's generally what makes man-in-suit fighting look a bit cheesy, it looks and moves like something the size and mass of a human (+ some cardboard robot bits) not however big it's meant to be.
Animating Big G to look like he's slinging some serious mass around is going to be the thing.
Animating Big G to look like he's slinging some serious mass around is going to be the thing.
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The director is hinting heavily that the monster is Rodan.
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I wonder if the people who developed Pacific Rim have any connection to the ones developing Godzilla, because the fighting in that movie, to me, looked pretty convincing as far as giant monster fighting goes.
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Judging by the closeness of the releases, they were likely made at least in part concurrently. At best, there may have been some note-sharing.
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I'm mystified as to why anyone should care. Pacific Rim is a single one-off film, it's not a venerated franchise spanning decades and generations. Why should creative input, or more obnoxiously yet, crossovers compel anyone any more than, say, for Pulgasari, Yongary or Gorgo? Sheer recency?
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I don't think they are referring to Pacific Rim in some storytelling sense but in a pure aesthetics sense. Despite a story that could be made in a random cliche plot generator the pure physicality of the fights was impressive. The short time we had with the two on one fights then the two on two then one on two gave you an excellent feel for each Kajiu's fighting style.TithonusSyndrome wrote:I'm mystified as to why anyone should care. Pacific Rim is a single one-off film, it's not a venerated franchise spanning decades and generations. Why should creative input, or more obnoxiously yet, crossovers compel anyone any more than, say, for Pulgasari, Yongary or Gorgo? Sheer recency?
The thing people look to Pacific Rim for is for the one thing it did well. The fights, those CGI smack ups went to the tiny part of our monkey brain and told us "Holy crap it's a giant monster fighting another giant robot".
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What MrBean says, pretty much all of Godzilla's legacy is presented through costumes and miniatures. Pacific Rim, on the other hand, is probably one of the first movies to successfully pull off the giant monster/mecha fight thing (Robot Jox notwithstanding).
And if you (TithonusSyndrome) are already gritting your teeth about the legacy of the Godzilla series and its significance to the point of dismissing Pacific Rim like that (key word in your post: venerated ) I foresee disappointment in your future.
And if you (TithonusSyndrome) are already gritting your teeth about the legacy of the Godzilla series and its significance to the point of dismissing Pacific Rim like that (key word in your post: venerated ) I foresee disappointment in your future.
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I'm not sure if this has been posted but it has some intriguing info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ilXSOhW0M0
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gigabytelord wrote:I'm not sure if this has been posted but it has some intriguing info.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ilXSOhW0M0
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I'm liking it. Godzilla looks fucking huge.
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Agreed - love the shot of his tail sweeping through the fog. They've obviously put some thought into making him look 'heavy', which is one of the things I liked about Pacific Rim.Borgholio wrote:I'm liking it. Godzilla looks fucking huge.
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Someone once questioned what would happen if Godzilla were one of the monsters in Pacific Rim. He'd probably be a Category 6 and would eat the Jaegers for lunch.Chimaera wrote:Agreed - love the shot of his tail sweeping through the fog. They've obviously put some thought into making him look 'heavy', which is one of the things I liked about Pacific Rim.Borgholio wrote:I'm liking it. Godzilla looks fucking huge.
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Judging from what I've seen of the trailers, Gojira appears to much, much bigger than the kaijus and jaegers, so massive that his form disappears into the mist. It would probably take a squad of jaegers to give him a nosebleedBorgholio wrote:Someone once questioned what would happen if Godzilla were one of the monsters in Pacific Rim. He'd probably be a Category 6 and would eat the Jaegers for lunch.Chimaera wrote:Agreed - love the shot of his tail sweeping through the fog. They've obviously put some thought into making him look 'heavy', which is one of the things I liked about Pacific Rim.Borgholio wrote:I'm liking it. Godzilla looks fucking huge.
Yeah, I've always taken the subtext of the Birther movement to be, "The rules don't count here! This is different! HE'S BLACK! BLACK, I SAY! ARE YOU ALL BLIND!?
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From what I've heard (and a bit of google-fu) the new Godzilla is somewhere between 115-160 meters. These are estimates obviously because we don't have any clear shots of him standing near real life structures for comparison. Whereas Gipsy Danger was around 80 meters last I checked, so it ranges from "meh, I've seen bigger" to "Holy shit that's a big Cat #". I also found a chart (that I can not vouch for because a math wiz I am not, that shows Slattern the first and only Cat 5 we saw to be about 600 feet long/tall (183 meters) which places it above even the largest est. for Godzilla, but the movie isn't out yet so we kinda have to wait.Chimaera wrote:Judging from what I've seen of the trailers, Gojira appears to much, much bigger than the kaijus and jaegers, so massive that his form disappears into the mist. It would probably take a squad of jaegers to give him a nosebleed
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didn't we discuss this a while back and it was concluded that most kaiju outside of Pacific Rim would at least cat 5 at the very least.
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The shot of the water flooding the city looks eerily similar to actual footage from recent Tsunamis in Japan and elsewhere.
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That's probably deliberate. It's easier to evoke emotion from an audience using things that they recognise which already have an emotional resonance.
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Going by the position later, that wasn't Godzilla's tail. There's another clear(if quick) shot (and maybe some partials) of other not-Godzilla kaiju in the trailer, too.Chimaera wrote:Agreed - love the shot of his tail sweeping through the fog. They've obviously put some thought into making him look 'heavy', which is one of the things I liked about Pacific Rim.Borgholio wrote:I'm liking it. Godzilla looks fucking huge.
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Holy fucking shitballs.
I saw this in the theater last night and they made Godzilla FUCKING HUGE!
I mean, I was shocked at the scope and scale and it totally looks like they pulled it off. For instance Pacific Rim didn't give me nearly the sense of awe this did.
I saw this in the theater last night and they made Godzilla FUCKING HUGE!
I mean, I was shocked at the scope and scale and it totally looks like they pulled it off. For instance Pacific Rim didn't give me nearly the sense of awe this did.
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I really like the cinematography of the new Godzilla based on the trailers. While the monsters in Pacific Rim is technically taller than Godzilla, the angle of shots used in PR makes everything looks small. The buildings and vehicles in Pacific Rim looks rather toylike to me.Havok wrote:Holy fucking shitballs.
I saw this in the theater last night and they made Godzilla FUCKING HUGE!
I mean, I was shocked at the scope and scale and it totally looks like they pulled it off. For instance Pacific Rim didn't give me nearly the sense of awe this did.
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At 1:45 in the new trailer you can see two non Godzilla monster on the monitors behind
the military/officer guy. One looks like a saucer headed Cloverfield, the other is a flying monster
that seems to be able to hover. The monitors are conveniently labeled MUTO 1 and MUTO 2
the military/officer guy. One looks like a saucer headed Cloverfield, the other is a flying monster
that seems to be able to hover. The monitors are conveniently labeled MUTO 1 and MUTO 2
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at 2:20-21, you see the head and mouth of one of the other Kaiju. I'm betting more MUTO, as it's definitely too small to be the Big G.
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lol. "Sir, he took out all the Jaegers!"Chimaera wrote:Judging from what I've seen of the trailers, Gojira appears to much, much bigger than the kaijus and jaegers, so massive that his form disappears into the mist. It would probably take a squad of jaegers to give him a nosebleed
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