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Agent Fisher wrote:
Alyeska wrote:Those are the real weapons they are carrying, but its already been stated that the Colonial weapons are much more powerful. They fire a missile like round. Look at the damage Starbuck was doing to the building when she missed while firing at Six. Look what a single pistol (smallest yet seen) was able to do to Adama. Thats some impressive firepower.
No, only one type of pistol fires the minirockets. Adama was shot with a 9mm pistol. Coddle was told this when he was about to treat Adama. The pilots are now using a new type of pistol that needs explosive rounds to take down Centurions.
It was said all guns fires a rocket type round.

And the "new" and "old" pistols sure look an awful lot alike.
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Alyeska wrote:
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Alyeska wrote:Those are the real weapons they are carrying, but its already been stated that the Colonial weapons are much more powerful. They fire a missile like round. Look at the damage Starbuck was doing to the building when she missed while firing at Six. Look what a single pistol (smallest yet seen) was able to do to Adama. Thats some impressive firepower.
No, only one type of pistol fires the minirockets. Adama was shot with a 9mm pistol. Coddle was told this when he was about to treat Adama. The pilots are now using a new type of pistol that needs explosive rounds to take down Centurions.
It was said all guns fires a rocket type round.

And the "new" and "old" pistols sure look an awful lot alike.
Where was it said that all guns fire the rocket round? And the new and old pistols do not look alike. The old pistols, the type that Helo and Starbuck have, are built around a revovler. The new pistols are built on a semiautomatic pistol. In Valley of Darkness Apollo fires his pistol at a Centurion and you can see the slide lock back. Billy was carrying on of the old pistols. The crew on Kobol also had one of the new pistols.
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Well the old pistol also has that slot for the anti-armor round.
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The power of even the pistol rounds is impressive. Just looking at what one did to Adama and what the missed shots from Starbuck did.

Though something to note. They pulled a frame from the shot of Adama being shot to increase the effect of the scene.
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Alyeska wrote:The power of even the pistol rounds is impressive. Just looking at what one did to Adama and what the missed shots from Starbuck did.

Though something to note. They pulled a frame from the shot of Adama being shot to increase the effect of the scene.

The pistol round on Adama and the one from Starbuck is different. Adama was hit with a Vector CP-1, a 9mm pistol. The weapon used by Starbuck was firing mini-rocket rounds. And the new weapons dont fire the mini-rockets, instead relying on explosive rounds to take down a toaster.
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9mm pistols do not cause people to fly backwards.
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Did he fly backwards? It didnt look like it to me, looked like he got shot, then stumbled back. If he did fly backwards, I'm going to chalk it up to hollywood, because we heard one of the nurses tell Coddle, that Adama had been shot with 9mm.
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He most definately flew backwards because he reacted the moment he was shot.

That gun most definately fires something 9mm in size but that in no way means it is the same as our 9mm weapons.
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Well, I dont have the series on DVD so I cant go back and check the scene out again, but I swear, it looked liked boomer shot him, he grimaced and stumbled back and grabbed the table to steady himself, boomer walked around to be infront of him again, she fires again, and then Adama goes onto the table. Then Boomer gets tackled.
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Agent Fisher wrote:Well, I dont have the series on DVD so I cant go back and check the scene out again, but I swear, it looked liked boomer shot him, he grimaced and stumbled back and grabbed the table to steady himself, boomer walked around to be infront of him again, she fires again, and then Adama goes onto the table. Then Boomer gets tackled.
I however, do. When he's shot by Boomer, Adama shudders, she shoots him again, and he steps back, jumping a little, and lands on the table.
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NecronLord wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:Well, I dont have the series on DVD so I cant go back and check the scene out again, but I swear, it looked liked boomer shot him, he grimaced and stumbled back and grabbed the table to steady himself, boomer walked around to be infront of him again, she fires again, and then Adama goes onto the table. Then Boomer gets tackled.
I however, do. When he's shot by Boomer, Adama shudders, she shoots him again, and he steps back, jumping a little, and lands on the table.
That doesnt sound like he goes flying back.
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I think Colonel Tigh is actually the best character of the show, he's so FLAWED. The other ones there's a reason why you can look up and admire them or like them. But Colonel Tigh is just downright a wreck of a man. But underneath it, every so often a real man and an officer comes out that each episode I keep hoping he'll break free of his chains and demons and come out. But I guess maybe that's what the producers are planning? That near the end, after Tigh has been torn apart completely, he comes back to the officer we all hope him to be?
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NecronLord wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:Well, I dont have the series on DVD so I cant go back and check the scene out again, but I swear, it looked liked boomer shot him, he grimaced and stumbled back and grabbed the table to steady himself, boomer walked around to be infront of him again, she fires again, and then Adama goes onto the table. Then Boomer gets tackled.
I however, do. When he's shot by Boomer, Adama shudders, she shoots him again, and he steps back, jumping a little, and lands on the table.
Thats not a jump. He was thrown back with that bullet because he wasn't standing upright and didn't have normal concentration to stand properly.
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Trytostaydead wrote:I think Colonel Tigh is actually the best character of the show, he's so FLAWED. The other ones there's a reason why you can look up and admire them or like them. But Colonel Tigh is just downright a wreck of a man. But underneath it, every so often a real man and an officer comes out that each episode I keep hoping he'll break free of his chains and demons and come out. But I guess maybe that's what the producers are planning? That near the end, after Tigh has been torn apart completely, he comes back to the officer we all hope him to be?
For people like Tight you have to hit rock bottom before you can climb back out. Some very bad things are going to happen to Tight before he manages to become the man he should be.
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Alyeska wrote: For people like Tight you have to hit rock bottom before you can climb back out. Some very bad things are going to happen to Tight before he manages to become the man he should be.
Judging by his prefomance lately he hasn't got much left.
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Adama is going to prop him back up. Not gonna happen just yet. Had Adama stayed under for another week, Tigh just might have crashed.
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Alyeska wrote:Thats not a jump. He was thrown back with that bullet because he wasn't standing upright and didn't have normal concentration to stand properly.
So this means there are rockets? Or what?
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Alyeska wrote:Adama is going to prop him back up. Not gonna happen just yet. Had Adama stayed under for another week, Tigh just might have crashed.
With that bitch of a wife of his. Someone needs to put HER in an airlock.
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I just noticed ... Tigh doesn't send in the Marines when his fuel supply is cut off ... he doesn't send in the Marines when his water is cut off ... but when the bastards cut off his COFFEE supply, in go the troops!

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Very, very well-done. Though I missed SG-1 and SGA, I didn't mind; this was what I wanted to see more than anything else last night and it didn't dissapoint at all. I like a show that has no qualms about altering the status quo in an instant and the replay of the S1 finale was no exception. Keep it up Mr. Moore!

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Just saw Resistance. Good episode, was disappointed with the rampant budgeteering on Caprica B though- no effort whatsoever made to make those real-life weapons (Czech scorpions, British L85s etc) look different for the cameras- took me right out of SoD. It can't be that hard to have the prop master play around with them like the others.
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Or at least play the the sounds the guns make to make them more in line with previous weapons displays.

Still, most of the weapons they displayed are not what the public is used to seeing. M-16, AK-47, those are a no-no. But the guns portrayed in the series are ones that very few people could recognize outright. I recognized only three weapons in the entire bit, and I certainly notice more then the average viewer would. I can live with their weapons portrayl.
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I too just finished "Resistance" 30 seconds ago. That's what? 3 people in a few days who dies in Tyrol's arms and the final's last words were "I love you, Chief"? (I would say 4, but Crashdown died in the arms of a tree.) The look in his eyes is just so neutral and sedated, it's unnerving. It's like he just doesn't believe he's experienced so much death first hand around him in so little time and his mind is just saying, "Oh, what the frak."

Again, I've never felt so much love for a TV show ever. And I've never felt so much loathing and hatred for one TV character as much as I do for Ellen Tigh. Every second she's on screen I was wishing to Saul to punch her in her face a couple of times.
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The Tigh's relationship is SO FUCKED UP.

Mrs. Tigh needs to get dumped, fast.
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