T:SCC 2x22 "Born To Run"

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Peptuck wrote:
squidman001 wrote:BAG says in the podcast that what happens in the Basement in, I think it was Dungeons and Dragons, is revealed in a conversation in one of the final episodes of the second season... but I never caught anything obvious. I'd have to watch them again somehow.
I'm pretty sure that was Cameron's chat with Derek about him breaking under torture.

Which actually makes a disturbing amount of sense; if they broke Derek in the basement, and that resulted in him giving up the hideout's location, it would explain how the machines found and destroyed it.

Actually, I think there is a different interpretation possibly here - we all know that Cameron is not just a typical robot, so risking her for a single hideout wouldn't make much sense. I believe they specifically wanted to know where Connor was so that she could infiltrate his camp. (Which also would tie in nicely with Allison from Palmdale).

We all know that Allison did not break under torture, so maybe they needed further confirmation where the camp was?

Problem is, it still doesn't make sense to leave him alive at the end.
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Re: T:SCC 2x22 "Born To Run"

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As an aside, not strictly related to the show, but Summer Glau has finished a photo shoot with Tyler Shields, which resulted in this lovely video and pictures.

Thomas Dekker also shot some images with that photographer link.
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Oh my god

She looks amazing with little-to-no makeup. My god. Sweet Robot Rivers...
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Oh my god

She looks amazing with little-to-no makeup. My god. Sweet Robot Rivers...
What I've always found interesting about Summer is how easily she can shift from looking cute and childish - e.g. River in Firefly - to looking just dead sexy - e.g. Cameron, Tyler Shields photoshoot. Its like she's got an on/off switch, but for sexiness.
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Of course, Shroom has to be the one who posts paparazzi pictures....what's next, posting gossip about her private life?
Peptuck wrote:What I've always found interesting about Summer is how easily she can shift from looking cute and childish - e.g. River in Firefly - to looking just dead sexy - e.g. Cameron, Tyler Shields photoshoot. Its like she's got an on/off switch, but for sexiness.
It is her acting technique. I remember skimming over an interview that was done a while back where she said she changed how she moved for the role - and you can easily see it in Allison from Palmdale, where playing two characters resulted in two completely different body postures, gestures and movement.

She is an extremely disciplined and focused actress. When re-watching Season 2, I noticed that ever since the bomb explosion of S1 she has played Cameron walking with a slight limp - almost unnoticeable, but there.
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She's a trained ballerina right? I imagine that body control is something she's worked on for quite some time.
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neoolong wrote:She's a trained ballerina right?
Yep.
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Thanas wrote:

She is an extremely disciplined and focused actress. When re-watching Season 2, I noticed that ever since the bomb explosion of S1 she has played Cameron walking with a slight limp - almost unnoticeable, but there.
I hadn't noticed that, although the far more obvious hand tremors were excellent. That's quite impressive. A nice catch Thanas.

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Thanas wrote:

She is an extremely disciplined and focused actress. When re-watching Season 2, I noticed that ever since the bomb explosion of S1 she has played Cameron walking with a slight limp - almost unnoticeable, but there.
I hadn't noticed that, although the far more obvious hand tremors were excellent. That's quite impressive.
Watch her right hip when she walks. There is a split second before she moves it in comparison to the left one. She also pushes her tigh higher than the left one. Kinda like a disjointed machine snapping back together.

I think you can best see it in Allison from Palmdale when she walks aways from John sitting in the car or in "Born to run", when she walks through the police station.
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Thanas wrote:Of course, Shroom has to be the one who posts paparazzi pictures....what's next, posting gossip about her private life?
No, don't. Let me enjoy the idealized Summer Glau in my head, rather than discover she's an asshole in real life, or listen about her relationships/marriage/children.

Also, what really makes me admire her is precisely her Ballerina training. That right there shows true talent beyond what many actors ever achieve.

I hand't thought about her funky walking style being a consequence of the explosion. I always thought it was simply a sort of robotic terminator walk (wich I think looks a bit silly). Intriguing concept.
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Thanas wrote:Of course, Shroom has to be the one who posts paparazzi pictures....what's next, posting gossip about her private life?
No, don't. Let me enjoy the idealized Summer Glau in my head, rather than discover she's an asshole in real life, or listen about her relationships/marriage/children.
She is actually very nice/polite in RL and so not an asshole.

But yeah, no gossip in this thread.
Also, what really makes me admire her is precisely her Ballerina training. That right there shows true talent beyond what many actors ever achieve.
It also gave her great posture. I really admire her for it - how many young women and actresses slouch, while she keeps her back straight. I cannot stand people who slouch.
(Of course, both my girlfriend and my sister have had ballerina training for years, so I am a bit biased when it comes to posture).
I hand't thought about her funky walking style being a consequence of the explosion. I always thought it was simply a sort of robotic terminator walk (wich I think looks a bit silly). Intriguing concept.
In S1, she walked normal.
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Thanas wrote:Of course, Shroom has to be the one who posts paparazzi pictures....what's next, posting gossip about her private life?
Where else can you get pictures of her looking so plainly pretty without layers of off-putting makeup women nowadays love to apply? Even in my pronning, those rare sets where the stars aren't so makeup'ed are the ones I particularly enjoy.

I kind of thought when Cameron trudged on more noticeably in S2, that it was her assuming a more inefficient walking style to appear more human. I forgot that she didn't really fully recover from the bomb blast at S1.
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Shirley Manson was on Craig Ferguson and mentioned being an out of work actress and is looking into getting back into music. Not sure if that means an off season thing or show is really done or at least her part.
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I am alone in having felt Man Behind the Curtain / Wizard of Oz when Dyson’s son was mentioned?

The machines then having split into two groups when they found out / find out that Skynet is really a tool or puppet for a mad human being. With both groups subsequently hating being lied to.
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Pinjar wrote:The machines then having split into two groups when they found out / find out that Skynet is really a tool or puppet for a mad human being. With both groups subsequently hating being lied to.
That makes little sense as we do know that the resistance wins after destroying Sknyet, not a mad human being.
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More likely T-800s loyal to Skynet from the future kidnapped Dyson's son and stole the remains of Cyberdyne software to make it in the past (perhaps a significant part of Skynet was smuggled in the outer flesh of a terminator).
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