nBSG: LDYB Pt 2 thread

[Skylon]

Furhter note:

Am I the only one who thought that of all the characters, the one most opposed to settlement, Roslin, seemed the happiest?

She was thrown into the presidency, a job she never sought, and on the planet she seemed just happy doing what she was, being a teacher.

Just a nice ironic scene I thought.

[StarshipTitanic]

4.I don't mind a lot of 'Low Teching', but paper tickets and Padlocks? I know it pushes the whole 'fixed election' because it gives the viewer something tangible. Yet all those ships are packed with people, where do people VOTE at. I guess I am getting tired of everything under the sun being Low Tech.

What's wrong with a paper ticket? Ever hear of Diebold.

Why would the fleet be equipped with electronic poll machines, anyway?

[LadyTevar]

Maybe it was low-tech because the high-tech stuff got blown up on Caprica?

[xerex]

4.I don't mind a lot of 'Low Teching', but paper tickets and Padlocks? I know it pushes the whole 'fixed election' because it gives the viewer something tangible. Yet all those ships are packed with people, where do people VOTE at. I guess I am getting tired of everything under the sun being Low Tech.

I could be wrong but I think the U.S. is the only country that DOESNT use paper ballots and padlocked boxes.

and as the previous poster said, where would they get mechanical/electronic voting machines from anyway ?

[DPDarkPrimus]

oBSG purists have no room to complain AT ALL. Earth, circa 1980, anyone?

[Jason von Evil]

I honestly thought Iblis was going to come walking through the door, or the leader of the Cylons. Wishful think? Yes. Totally fraking shocking, unexpected and kickass? You better fraking believe it!

[StarshipTitanic]

I honestly thought Iblis was going to come walking through the door, or the leader of the Cylons. Wishful think? Yes. Totally fraking shocking, unexpected and kickass? You better fraking believe it!

I'm fairly certain the Cylons are a direct democracy, but that's just my opinion. I don't see them electing a president.

[Alex Moon]

What an incredible finale.

My favorite scene was when Adama was telling Roslin that the election couldn't stand, even though having Baltar be President was the worst possible outcome. That was some of the best acting I've ever seen on television or in the movies. As I was watching Adama and Roslin's dialogue, I kept thinking to myself that these two really know how to fucking act.

What's interesting is that it reflects Lee's statements in S1 about how they had to follow the law, or there was nothing left of the colonies. IIRC, Adama was opposed to them at the time.

[xerex]

Incidentally we now have 7 of 12 cylon models

1.Sharon
2.Six
3.Leoben
4. Doral
5. D'anna
6. The black doctor
7. "Al"

did i miss anyone ?

[ngc7293]

4.I don't mind a lot of 'Low Teching', but paper tickets and Padlocks? I know it pushes the whole 'fixed election' because it gives the viewer something tangible. Yet all those ships are packed with people, where do people VOTE at. I guess I am getting tired of everything under the sun being Low Tech.

I could be wrong but I think the U.S. is the only country that DOESNT use paper ballots and padlocked boxes.

and as the previous poster said, where would they get mechanical/electronic voting machines from anyway ?

It would seem to me that a computerized method would be a lot easier to use and less likely to have issues, like stuffing the ballot boxes. (but then no story line)

I just watch the show and say 'here are people who have interstellar FTL space travel, and everthing else is tied to 20th century tech. The Radios, The Voting Methods. Even the step carts in Galactica's landing bay can be found at Walmart, Kmart or Meijer.'

[Thag]

Well, let's see, we have:

-the Cylons pull a Collossus ("This is the voice of world control.....")
-the fleet is even further understaffed and undersupplied than when they started
-half the cast is stuck under occupation
-Baltar seems to have gone bannana republic with the government

Well, six months to see which direction the shit goes after it leaves the fan. [cartman]God Dammit![/Cartman].

[GrandMasterTerwynn]

4.I don't mind a lot of 'Low Teching', but paper tickets and Padlocks? I know it pushes the whole 'fixed election' because it gives the viewer something tangible. Yet all those ships are packed with people, where do people VOTE at. I guess I am getting tired of everything under the sun being Low Tech.

I could be wrong but I think the U.S. is the only country that DOESNT use paper ballots and padlocked boxes.

and as the previous poster said, where would they get mechanical/electronic voting machines from anyway ?

It would seem to me that a computerized method would be a lot easier to use and less likely to have issues, like stuffing the ballot boxes. (but then no story line)

I just watch the show and say 'here are people who have interstellar FTL space travel, and everthing else is tied to 20th century tech. The Radios, The Voting Methods. Even the step carts in Galactica's landing bay can be found at Walmart, Kmart or Meijer.'

Hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Why should they waste communications bandwidth on full-motion video, or waste time on robotic step-carts with pointless touchpads on the side that hover? And heck, they might well have had computerized gee-whiz voting machines back in the Colonies, but as others have mentioned, those probably went up in the pretty nuclear mushroom clouds. I mean, you can certainly see the difference in quality of life they had back on the Colonies, and then as a fleet of refugees, and finally, as a small colony losing its tech base.

[StarshipTitanic]

It would seem to me that a computerized method would be a lot easier to use and less likely to have issues, like stuffing the ballot boxes. (but then no story line)

Because it's computerized it's impervious to tampering?

I say again, have you ever heard of Diebold?

As for radios and carts used in the landing bay, what exactly do you think people are going to use in the future? I didn't know radio waves and even the wheel are becoming obsolete.

[Azazal]

As has been stated, that's a cliff hanger, WOW!!!!


Crazy thought hit me, are we seeing the after effects of a Cyclon civil war? I know crazy out on the limb idea, but to me that looked like Caprica Six and Original Boomer - the war heroes.

"Al" said the heroes had convinced the Cylons to leave the colonies, what if some of the Cylons said fuck that, and a civil war started? Again, most likely pure BS, but it would fit in with Six telling Balter the "truth" of the exodous from Kobal and how history is cyclical.

DAMN YOU MOORE!!!!!!!!! but donlt change a thing

[Alex Moon]

Having thought about it more, I find it a little unbelievable that the Galactica and Pegasus were so understaffed and in such disrepair. Life on New Caprica is obviously harsh, and you'd think that for many of the crew, quarters on board a ship with running water and indoor plumbing would be a good thing.

At the very minimum, I would expect them to keep a large portion of the crew rotating through in order to keep skills up and for defense purposes.

[Stile]

It should be interesting if we see any collaborators come from this occupation. The former military would probably be unlikely to do so because of seeing your friends and comrades die from the Cylons.

I for one will welcome our robotic overlords with open arms.

[Jason von Evil]

So, basically, they landed the ships they could land, and live in them. Not exactly the promise Baltar rode to victory, is it? Nice that Gaeta found a decent job after leaving the service.

What did you expect? Skyscrapers? Starbucks on every corner? They've only been there for a year. They have no industrial base. They'll probably need to do a lot before they can build big.

I don't blame Lee for sitting on the antibiotics. They're probably trying to conserve what they have, incase the colony gets hit by a disease.

<3 Kara's long hair and tattoo.

Looked like Saul and Ellen have patched things up. I don't think he expected the hug from Kara.

I loved that look she gave Adama when she got back from Caprica. She's such a daddy's girl.

[CDiehl]

Had a couple interesting thoughts about this episode.

First, I was thinking about what things would have been like had Roslin gotten her way, and they kept on flying for another 380 days. I figure, no matter who had won the election, and whether or not the people moved onto New Caprica, a year down the road, it's likely some of those problems we saw would happen anyway. The most obvious one is the lack of medicine, and the fact that the supplies and spare parts would continue to run lower and lower. The Battlestars might both be in deteriorating shape, though the deterioration might have been slowed by people not abandoning them to settle down. Also, the people would probably be on the verge of rebellion after nearly two years cooped up on ships and passing up to chances to settle, first on Kobol and then on New Caprica. The issue of resettlement would become a bigger and bigger thorn in the side of fleet leaders as the people would demand they turn back to a safe port.

Second, did it look like the Colonials hadn't done much to build new lives on New Caprica. I didn't see a lot of evidence of farming, building, mining, manufacturing, digging up tylium or even trying to explore the planet or possibly the solar system to find resources. To me, it looks like they just landed, got out and that was it. They totally ignored the fleet unless they needed something they had on the ships in orbit. I might be mistaken, since they only had limited time to show us how they lived before the Cylons came marching in, and showing us the nitty-gritty of how they get food and other necessities wasn't relevant to the story.

[DPDarkPrimus]

So, basically, they landed the ships they could land, and live in them. Not exactly the promise Baltar rode to victory, is it? Nice that Gaeta found a decent job after leaving the service.

What did you expect? Skyscrapers? Starbucks on every corner?

Wouldn't that mean she's a Cylon?

[Cej4096]

Starbucks on every corner?

I don't think things are so bad she needs to resort to that kind of work.
... Sorry, couldn't resist.


Anyway, I'm no expert on the subject, but that baby didn't look like it was over a year old.

[Jason von Evil]

You two suck.

[CDiehl]

What did you expect? Skyscrapers? Starbucks on every corner? They've only been there for a year. They have no industrial base. They'll probably need to do a lot before they can build big.

No, I did not expect anything like that in a year. I at least expected houses instead of living in tents or their landed ships. I certainly don't need them living in a perfectly modern (for them) city, but it would be nice to see evidence of them actually developing that industrial base to provide for their needs. They have to become independent of the fleet, even if they have to use that fleet to get to that result, because eventually, even what Lee was hoarding on Pegasus would run out, so they can't lean on them forever. I commented on it because I found it ironic, since Baltar's big argument, which won him the election, was the idea of them getting off the ships once and for all and living on a planet. I know my suggestion is just as ironic, of course.

[JME2]

Furhter note:

Am I the only one who thought that of all the characters, the one most opposed to settlement, Roslin, seemed the happiest?

She was thrown into the presidency, a job she never sought, and on the planet she seemed just happy doing what she was, being a teacher.

Just a nice ironic scene I thought.

That was actually my favorite scene of the episode. Very ironic, but also very touching.

Great episode, just great. I'm still on the fence in regard to whether or not this tops Adama's shooting last year; I can't decide. A great way to finish out three great seasons.

5/5

One last note: With the One Year Later (no relation to the DC jump), there's a year's worth of untold story. We've got six months until the third season opens shop. I expect to see the board's fanfic writers busy...

[Jason von Evil]

What did you expect? Skyscrapers? Starbucks on every corner? They've only been there for a year. They have no industrial base. They'll probably need to do a lot before they can build big.

No, I did not expect anything like that in a year. I at least expected houses instead of living in tents or their landed ships. I certainly don't need them living in a perfectly modern (for them) city, but it would be nice to see evidence of them actually developing that industrial base to provide for their needs. They have to become independent of the fleet, even if they have to use that fleet to get to that result, because eventually, even what Lee was hoarding on Pegasus would run out, so they can't lean on them forever. I commented on it because I found it ironic, since Baltar's big argument, which won him the election, was the idea of them getting off the ships once and for all and living on a planet. I know my suggestion is just as ironic, of course.

Wouldn't be the first time a politician has made a big promise then shafted the voters.

It looks like they're having problems with their workforce and are probably checking out the resources of the planet.

Personally, I'm bothered by the fact that this planet doesn't have animals.

[DrMckay]

OH MY GOD, Great spisode to go out on. Great music, acting, I diddnt know Cylons had a sense of humor,) makeup, (Lee, Dee, and Bill) cant wait till october!!!!!