Doctor Who - "Smith and Jones"

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2007-04-02 03:02am

And I wonder why the hospital staff didn't pay attention to those two metre tall figures in black leather jumpsuits and shiny biker helmets striding around, acting in a obviously suspicious manner

They're bike couriers in a busy hospital. Why would anyone notice them?

Hillary · Post by **Hillary** » 2007-04-02 07:01am

Oooh, I thought that was rather good. The show already feels better without Billie Piper, who I never really got on with.

As a character-introducer, it actually worked very well - a nice touch with the Canary Wharf reference as well.

Am I the only one who thought that the Judoon were very reminiscent of the Vogons from Hitchhikers? Militaristic, stupid policemen who do EVERYTHING by the book. I suspect we'll be seeing more of them.

Looking good. 4/5

Big Orange · Post by **Big Orange** » 2007-04-02 07:09am

Hillary wrote: Am I the only one who thought that the Judoon were very reminiscent of the Vogons from Hitchhikers? Militaristic, stupid policemen who do EVERYTHING by the book. I suspect we'll be seeing more of them.

I pretty much thought they were like the Vogons as well and even openly stated that on Spacebattles.com (another poster compared them to Ogrons).

Mr Flibble · Post by **Mr Flibble** » 2007-04-02 09:20am

Hillary wrote:Am I the only one who thought that the Judoon were very reminiscent of the Vogons from Hitchhikers? Militaristic, stupid policemen who do EVERYTHING by the book. I suspect we'll be seeing more of them.

Yeah I thought that as well, their ships even looked vaguely reminiscent to the vogon ships in the hitchhikers movie.

I enjoyed this ep and thought it was a good intro to Martha, who already appeals to me more than Rose (but that may just be my strange intrest in med students). Overall a good episode, I give it 3/5 (I'm a harsh marker, 5 would need to be perfect).

Oh and am I the only one who had naughty thoughts when the doctor was trying to get Martha to come with him and said "I have a new sonic screwdriver that needs a test run", surely I can't be the only one...

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-04-02 12:06pm

An interesting start to the new series with some funky new species thrown in. I jhad my doubts on how Agyeman would play the assistant, but she managed. The retconning of her previous part being a cousin was a bit dodgy though.

It does seem that Earth is being visited more and more by ETs and Torchwood is still powerless to do anything, be it through last time's finale or sheer incompetence.

And hooray for the first of many Saxon references.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2007-04-02 12:13pm

The Judoon reminded me more of the Megara from Stones of Blood. Though not much beyond their role in the show and their love of rules.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-04-02 12:16pm

Just watching the animated thing on Totally Doctor Who. ASH gets anouther villain role! Woo!

its nice having a cartoon ith the actual cast providing the voices...

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-04-02 12:29pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:An interesting start to the new series with some funky new species thrown in. I jhad my doubts on how Agyeman would play the assistant, but she managed. The retconning of her previous part being a cousin was a bit dodgy though.

It does seem that Earth is being visited more and more by ETs and Torchwood is still powerless to do anything, be it through last time's finale or sheer incompetence.

And hooray for the first of many Saxon references.

I didn't even notice her in an earlier episode. Which one was it?

I liked this episode- the Rhino-Cops were very Masters of Orion.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-04-02 12:32pm

Vympel wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:An interesting start to the new series with some funky new species thrown in. I jhad my doubts on how Agyeman would play the assistant, but she managed. The retconning of her previous part being a cousin was a bit dodgy though.

It does seem that Earth is being visited more and more by ETs and Torchwood is still powerless to do anything, be it through last time's finale or sheer incompetence.

And hooray for the first of many Saxon references.
I didn't even notice her in an earlier episode. Which one was it?

I liked this episode- the Rhino-Cops were very Masters of Orion.

Army of Ghosts - she played a Torchwood tech who had her brains eaten by a Cyberworm thing.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 2007-04-02 03:23pm

I didn't enjoy it at all. There's just something missing now, felt like the same old same old. Cringed for the most part, the show doesn't seem to be making any progress.

Where was the hospital drawing power from the keep the lights on and allow the MRI chamber to build up enough power to cause something with an effect of 250,000 miles anyway?

Bounty · Post by **Bounty** » 2007-04-02 03:25pm

Where was the hospital drawing power from the keep the lights on and allow the MRI chamber to build up enough power to cause something with an effect of 250,000 miles anyway?

Backup generators. Every hospital has them.

Big Orange · Post by **Big Orange** » 2007-04-02 04:17pm

Jon wrote:I didn't enjoy it at all. There's just something missing now, felt like the same old same old. Cringed for the most part, the show doesn't seem to be making any progress.

Doctor Who doesn't seem to be creatively stagnating as badly as much as Star Trek or the Stargate SG-1 franchise - we've got a new set of regular characters and the later episodes sound genuinely interesting.

Bounty wrote:
Where was the hospital drawing power from the keep the lights on and allow the MRI chamber to build up enough power to cause something with an effect of 250,000 miles anyway?
Backup generators. Every hospital has them.

But it seems pretty daft how a loading crate sized piece of electronic equipment could eradiate everybody within a 250, 000 mile radius. Although the evil witch could've modifed it in a similar manner to how the Doctor boosted that X-Ray scanner with his sonic screwdriver.

Netko · Post by **Netko** » 2007-04-02 04:52pm

Big Orange wrote:But it seems pretty daft how a loading crate sized piece of electronic equipment could eradiate everybody within a 250, 000 mile radius. Although the evil witch could've modifed it in a similar manner to how the Doctor boosted that X-Ray scanner with his sonic screwdriver.

I thought that was kinda implied - basically, the plasmawhathamajig was doing manually a similar kind of modification to the doctor's one with the screwdriver.

As for the computer thing - yeah, its stupid - still, it can be explained away as the computer being integrated into the display (hey, the form factor does exist) and miniaturized a lot compared to our computers do to Whoverse's more advanced technology.

Anyway, pretty good introductionary episode, 4/5 would be my score. I am disappointed that the next episode is a history ep though - an ep in the far future allowing the doc and Jones to get to know eachother and for her to lose her amazement at ubertech would have been better. Although, they did do that with Rose, so they probably didn't want to repeat it to not seem formulaic. Anyhow, we'll see how they handle it next week.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2007-04-02 07:55pm

Bounty wrote:
And I wonder why the hospital staff didn't pay attention to those two metre tall figures in black leather jumpsuits and shiny biker helmets striding around, acting in a obviously suspicious manner
They're bike couriers in a busy hospital. Why would anyone notice them?

I'm pretty sure only clear visors are legal in the UK and you wouldn't expect couriers to be walking around inside a hospital much beyond reception, not with their helmets still on and with tinted visor down anyway.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-04-02 09:02pm

What we really need in the next present-day ep is some psychologically unstable, violent narcisscist to jump out and try to molest an alien only to get killed. Then someone in the Government needs to say 'well, Torchwood never really recovered after Canary Wharf, I don't know where they find these people'.

Big Orange · Post by **Big Orange** » 2007-04-03 07:10am

Stark wrote:What we really need in the next present-day ep is some psychologically unstable, violent narcisscist to jump out and try to molest an alien only to get killed.

More likely the narcissistic, emotionally immature twit would be directly responsible for the alien causing trouble anyway; and all because his boyfriend cheating on him, so he released the alien in revenge.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-04-03 08:28am

You know, I'm not that bothered by the doctor pointing his screwdriver at the case, or looking at the back of a monitor case. The dalek in Dalek put its plunger through the screen as well. And to be honest, our guessing how either technology works is like amoeba trying to understand a jet plane.

Flakin · Post by **Flakin** » 2007-04-03 09:28am

NecronLord wrote:You know, I'm not that bothered by the doctor pointing his screwdriver at the case, or looking at the back of a monitor case. The dalek in Dalek put its plunger through the screen as well. And to be honest, our guessing how either technology works is like amoeba trying to understand a jet plane.

Could of been a thin client terminal. Lots of hospitals use Citrix and Terminal Services.

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