Destroy a sci-fi sword

loomer · Post by **loomer** » 2007-06-26 10:37pm

"The asymetrically layered, titanium/neutronium alloy, which is almost three times as strong as ordinary titanium, seamless joint suit he wears for tough fights, is designed to allow survival in all environments. "

"The weight is 195lbs"

"Obviously something like a "vorpal" blade will be converted to a normal, un-magical substance when it encounters this field"

"The psionic resonator crystal which is 6" long and looks like a blue, axialy twined quartz crystal, protects against all psionic attack, but especially telekinesis and pyrokinesis. "

So... No magic. But psionics. Yeah...

Flameblade · Post by **Flameblade** » 2007-06-26 10:39pm

A 43 year old, YEC closeted furry? Who enjoys wanking massive swords because his sword lacks mass?

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-06-26 10:41pm

How exactly does a field remove magical effects? How does a crystal affect fire at range? How does any of this stuff protect from momentum? How can a suit be 'seamless' and have 'joint's? Introduce him to the mass of neutronium compared to his '195lbs' stuff.

Flameblade · Post by **Flameblade** » 2007-06-26 10:42pm

Wow, where'd all those posts come from? Must've left the tab open for too long.

loomer · Post by **loomer** » 2007-06-26 10:42pm

"Godamn, thaey don't understand warp layering.." New quote defending his shitsword!

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-06-26 10:43pm

Can he explain a) warp b) how warp is layered and c) how this works when you're recycling dimensions out of phase with the psionic crystal?

Ariphaos · Post by **Ariphaos** » 2007-06-26 10:43pm

...this is all powered by some sort of Strontium-90 reaction?

Not more than 3.7 pounds of it?

loomer · Post by **loomer** » 2007-06-26 10:45pm

BWAHAHA! He has ONE POUND of Neutronium in EARTH'S GRAVITY. I'm not sure what that would actually do, but I'm pretty sure it would make NO difference. Can someone tell me the density of material in a neutron star so I can point out how little that would be?

Winston Blake · Post by **Winston Blake** » 2007-06-26 10:49pm

loomer wrote:"The asymetrically layered, titanium/neutronium alloy, which is almost three times as strong as ordinary titanium, seamless joint suit he wears for tough fights, is designed to allow survival in all environments. "

"The weight is 195lbs"

"Obviously something like a "vorpal" blade will be converted to a normal, un-magical substance when it encounters this field"

"The psionic resonator crystal which is 6" long and looks like a blue, axialy twined quartz crystal, protects against all psionic attack, but especially telekinesis and pyrokinesis. "

My wank creativity cannot compete with a mind of this magnitude.

loomer wrote:BWAHAHA! He has ONE POUND of Neutronium in EARTH'S GRAVITY. I'm not sure what that would actually do, but I'm pretty sure it would make NO difference. Can someone tell me the density of material in a neutron star so I can point out how little that would be?

Wikipedia gives a minimum of 8e13 g/mL.

(1 lb / 8e13g/mL)^(1/3) = the size of a cube 1.8 microns per side.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-06-26 10:50pm

Wouldn't the neutronium just expand without the pressures keeping it compressed? How is a few particles of neutronium-stuff supposed to make a suit of personal armour better, anyway?

Ariphaos · Post by **Ariphaos** » 2007-06-26 10:53pm

loomer wrote:BWAHAHA! He has ONE POUND of Neutronium in EARTH'S GRAVITY. I'm not sure what that would actually do, but I'm pretty sure it would make NO difference. Can someone tell me the density of material in a neutron star so I can point out how little that would be?

It depends on the mass of the star. Like white dwarfs, they grow smaller, and it is not clear where neutrons break down and some other form of degenerate matter, such as say quark matter, would take over.

...that said, what would you do with neutronium in a sword? Irradiate people you hit with it?

loomer · Post by **loomer** » 2007-06-26 10:53pm

Apparently it works because it's a composite. Which is absolute bull.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-06-26 10:55pm

So let's follow the rationale. Composites = good. Neutronium = awesome. Thus, making a composite with neutronium is doubleplus good!

loomer · Post by **loomer** » 2007-06-26 10:55pm

Ghetto edit: " If you space the neutronium within the crystaline structure of the metal then you can increase the direction of impact resistance substantially."

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-06-26 10:57pm

INCREASE the DIRECTION? He's doing this on purpose.

Ariphaos · Post by **Ariphaos** » 2007-06-26 10:59pm

I made the mistake of searching for this.

My eyes are bleeding.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2007-06-26 11:12pm

I just can't wrap my head around all the stupidity, but one little thing: a 195lb sword? Even if you were retarded enough to grant all the rest of this gent's sheepfucking, it took a shitload of strength for any warrior to handle a 50lb two-handed sword in medieval times. I don't care how fancy the tech is or how much of its total mass is supposed to be shunted into the subspace framizdat, no fucking way you're going to be swinging a sword which weighs (to you) as much as a full grown man.

loomer · Post by **loomer** » 2007-06-26 11:13pm

My bad, the armour is 195 lbs, not the sword.

loomer · Post by **loomer** » 2007-06-26 11:25pm

"If you float outside of earth's gravity then time-space warp exists, just ask any astronaut."

So... Apparently that's all he can say to 'prove' the warp.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2007-06-26 11:32pm

Winston Blake wrote:
Connor MacLeod wrote:Assuming roughly a thumb-thick blade (like a lightsabeR) and a meter or so in length at the density Winston stated... and a roughly cylindrical blade..

I estimate it should mass at least.. ~34 tonnes.
Further, that was a lower limit. Since he called it a heavy ion plasma, I would expect hundreds of times more mass.

Oh, that's SO much better. So that means all my calcs go up by a factor of hundreds

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2007-06-26 11:34pm

Winston Blake wrote:
loomer wrote:The model that produces Hawking radiation apparently "The model doesn't take in to account dimensional recycling.". The guy is pretty much just using as many buzzwords as he can now.
You know it's tempting to think up wank that could surpass this. Not just numbers wank, but creative wank. Look at how he specifies a carbon fiber hilt, an ordinary nuclear battery and the fact it glows purple.

How about: a neutron star compressed into the shape of a katana, contained by hoops of naked ring singularities. The user is protected by dimensional phase shifting. The mass is negated by wrapping the sword in superstrings, and the hilt is made from pure diamond. The blade plasma glows rainbow coloured and the whole thing is powered by an AAA battery.

If the idiot has this technobabble forcefield that can magically contain the multi-megaton plasma he inventeD (nevermind the blackhole and radiation it possesseS) and it can generate the requisite force/energy to move the thing, why not just ditch the blackhole/plasma to begin with and use the technobabble forcefield as a weapon? with all the space you save on the plasma/blackhole bit, you probably could make it even stronger.

Then again the whole idea of "negating" a sword's mass in any form is extremely retarded - if you "nullify" the mass the blade is pretty much going to disappear (so what good is it?)

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2007-06-26 11:37pm

Patrick Degan wrote:I just can't wrap my head around all the stupidity, but one little thing: a 195lb sword? Even if you were retarded enough to grant all the rest of this gent's sheepfucking, it took a shitload of strength for any warrior to handle a 50lb two-handed sword in medieval times. I don't care how fancy the tech is or how much of its total mass is supposed to be shunted into the subspace framizdat, no fucking way you're going to be swinging a sword which weighs (to you) as much as a full grown man.

I'm pretty sure 50lb two handers were rare in medeviel times - msot swords were ALOT less massive than that (20lb or less IIRC).

But its not a 195 lb sword, that's the wank armour. The sword masses some hundreds or thousands of tonnes as above. (The blade does that is - the hilt is only 3.7 pounds. Anyone want to imagine what kind of stress is put on the poitn where the blade connects the hilt?) Of course, that simply means your weapon is grossly more massive than your armor, which is fucking stupid.

And why isn't the moron making his "armour" out of the crap he's wanking out in this sword, since it can apparently contain all that crap (a megaton-range plasma and a black hole)

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2007-06-26 11:39pm

loomer wrote:My bad, the armour is 195 lbs, not the sword.

So... he's wearing the equivalent weight of a grown man as body armour instead. While he's struggling toward me with the Sword of Extreme Masturbation, I simply do my Indiana Jones impression and shoot him.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2007-06-26 11:40pm

Stark wrote:INCREASE the DIRECTION? He's doing this on purpose.

From what I gather he's probably some roleplayer who is also a fucking munchkin (meaning he plays for the sake of simply inventing more and more uber shit to trump everyone else because he's got to be the biggest, baddest, penis-compensatingest one around.)

It's rather quite evident form the excerpts that he'll invent any level of technobabble BS to trump anyone else's abilities, and when all the flaws in his BS are pointed out, he'll just spin out MORE technobabble BS. Logic and analysis are not going to faze this guy (he's not exactly presenting anyn facts to back up his big words and terms now, he just throws them out to sound impressive.)

All you can do is really mock the guy. Violently.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2007-06-26 11:40pm

Patrick Degan wrote:
loomer wrote:My bad, the armour is 195 lbs, not the sword.
So... he's wearing the equivalent weight of a grown man as body armour instead. While he's struggling toward me with the Sword of Extreme Masturbation, I simply do my Indiana Jones impression and shoot him.

He's probably got a time-warp field to prevent you from doing that. I bet it drops a giant ACME anvil on anyone who tries.