Transformers movie: Where to go from here?

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2007-07-12 07:29am

What about the Dynobots, then?

Like the Dreamwave/IDW versions, where's they're all tanks or other heavily armed vehicles.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2007-07-12 10:38pm

Frankly I want Megatron to be ressurected as Galvatron by Unicron in the next movie already.

And get this Unicron devouring worlds! I have yet to see a movie where a giant metallic planet eats worlds, then transforms into a gigantic robot. This will be an instant hit.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2007-07-13 05:24pm

Fine. No Dinobots.

How about Blackarachnia. As a sleek japanese motorcycle (since a 10ft spider would not be an apt disguise).

It would work rather well, a Decepticon going double agent in Optimus' call to other transformers, only to be swayed (mostly by "Gee: these guys will probably win in the end" and other things she picks up from the humans actually convert her). That way, there can be a tripple cross towards the end.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-07-13 05:47pm

I know the movie continuity isn't G1, but other than original material (like Blackout), I'd rather not see anything from outside G1 put in it, so I'd have to say a huge no to stuff like Black Arachnia and Tidal Wave.

That idea for BA particularly sounds pretty mental, and extremely derivative of what happened in BW/BM. They already had a female Autobot motorcycle designed for the first film in the form of Arcee, so they might as well get their mileage out of that.

rhoenix · Post by **rhoenix** » 2007-07-13 05:57pm

Personally, this is utterly due to bias - if the Constructacons are formed in movie 2, with a larger, angrier-looking Devestator as their gestalt mode, I'd like to see the Aerialbots, and Superion, trashing them.

If for no other reason than to see Starscream (and his two gigalo...er, "wingmen") getting beaten into the floor. However, if this is the case, there had better be none of this "I'm afraid of heights!" fetid bullshit from Silverbolt.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-07-13 05:57pm

Ghetto Edit: actually regarding my mention of original material, I realise that besides Blackout, about half of the Decepticons are pretty much original creations for the movie, compared to all of the Autobots being essentially analogous to their G1 counterparts.

I just really don't want to see anything based on stuff from the Beast Era, RiD, or the Unicron Trilogy...

Styphon · Post by **Styphon** » 2007-07-13 09:23pm

you, sir, have just affronted my childhood.

which is to say: and what, praytell, is wrong with the Beast Era?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-07-13 09:52pm

Nothing. I love Beast Wars, personally, but simply would rather not see anything borrowed from incorporated in the movie continuity.

The idea just rubs me the wrong way.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-07-13 09:53pm

Ghetto E: "...borrowed from it incorporated..." I meant.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2007-07-13 11:05pm

Is there any chance some allspark could infect a missile factory or something and give us Omega Supreme to fight Devastator?

I'll vote FOR bringing back the Dinobots, but you have to make Grimlock not sound like a retarded cave man.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-07-13 11:13pm

I'll vote against. Whats the rationale that theyll use that wont be as retarded as the cartoon? "LOLZ we scanned fossils by mistake!!!1?"

Grimlock, upon landing - "boy, those military vehicles with all their weapon hardpoints look good, but man, give us those dead animal carcasses instead!"

Sludge - *slashes wrists*

And PS, Superion was a loser

rhoenix · Post by **rhoenix** » 2007-07-14 04:00am

NeoGoomba wrote:And PS, Superion was a loser

Only most of the time. I'm hoping for retconning redemption here.

Bug-Eyed Earl · Post by **Bug-Eyed Earl** » 2007-07-14 04:18am

NeoGoomba wrote:I'll vote against. Whats the rationale that theyll use that wont be as retarded as the cartoon? "LOLZ we scanned fossils by mistake!!!1?"

Grimlock, upon landing - "boy, those military vehicles with all their weapon hardpoints look good, but man, give us those dead animal carcasses instead!"

Sludge - *slashes wrists*

And PS, Superion was a loser

They can just have Grimlock not give a fuck abvout disguises and want to change into something big and nasty.

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2007-07-14 04:36am

Like the Eiffel Tower?

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2007-07-14 05:12am

Didn't Optimus Prime already killed on of the Constructicons in the first movie by sword-in-face?

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-07-14 09:00pm

rhoenix wrote:
Only most of the time. I'm hoping for retconning redemption here.

lol fair enough

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-07-14 09:01pm

wautd wrote:Didn't Optimus Prime already killed on of the Constructicons in the first movie by sword-in-face?

Bonecrusher wasn't a construction vehicle I BELIEVE. He was a mine-sweeper, right?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-07-14 09:20pm

NeoGoomba wrote:
wautd wrote:Didn't Optimus Prime already killed on of the Constructicons in the first movie by sword-in-face?
Bonecrusher wasn't a construction vehicle I BELIEVE. He was a mine-sweeper, right?

In the film, Bonecrusher was an armoured anti-mine military vehicle called the Buffalo.

In G1, though, Bonecrusher was one of the five Constructicons that formed Devastator:

Scrapper, front end loader
Bonecrusher, bulldozer
Scavenger, excavator
Mixmaster, cement truck
Hook, truck-mounted crane
Longhaul, dump truck

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-07-14 11:46pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote: In G1, though, Bonecrusher was one of the five Constructicons that formed Devastator:

Scrapper, front end loader
Bonecrusher, bulldozer
Scavenger, excavator
Mixmaster, cement truck
Hook, truck-mounted crane
Longhaul, dump truck

You mean one of the six.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2007-07-14 11:48pm

Actually, some incarnations, toy wise at least, are only made of five.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-07-14 11:55pm

Yeah, I wasn't paying attention, I meant six, witch just makes it dumber because I listed six right there.

I personally think six works better than five for certain combiners proportion-wise, such as the Constructicons when you consider that their alt-modes are all of similar sizes to each other.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-07-15 12:44am

neoolong wrote:Actually, some incarnations, toy wise at least, are only made of five.

The original Devastator was six robots.

I don't think a single other TF gestalt has been six.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-07-15 12:51am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
neoolong wrote:Actually, some incarnations, toy wise at least, are only made of five.
The original Devastator was six robots.

I don't think a single other TF gestalt has been six.

According to the Dreamwave "More Than Meets The Eye", Monstructor (or whatever the fuck the Terrorcons morphed into) had six combiner parts.

DarkSilver · Post by **DarkSilver** » 2007-07-15 09:21am

Terrorcons turned into Abominus, the direct opposite of Computron.

Pirahnicon (aka King Posidian in Japan) was a 6 member Gestault also, with one of them turning into a weapon for it.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2007-07-15 09:23am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Nothing. I love Beast Wars, personally, but simply would rather not see anything borrowed from incorporated in the movie continuity.

The idea just rubs me the wrong way.

Too late. Beast Wars gave us the Spark, after all. :p