Really good Stargate episodes

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

Ghetto stylin': Well fuck me, I dicked up the quote.

[NecronLord]

Though again, I point to the pilot. It can't just be normal chainmail - rounds were literally bouncing off the Serpent Guards in "Children of the Gods". Assault rifle rounds specifically designed for armor penetration, mind.

They were, to my memory, bouncing off the thick, but limited, armour plates. One scene where the jaffa are hard to kill - and there's more than just that one, they do pretty well in Jonas' vision in Prophecy in Season 6, against far worse odds, doesn't mean they've gone downhill. In that same pilot, SG1 and 2 mow down hundreds of jaffa... And at least one of the Jaffa in the pilot was killed by those M4s...

[NecronLord]

Right, from a brief re-watch, all the sparks come off the big front and back plates of the jaffa armour, and the off duty airmen manage to kill two out of five Jaffa (including Teal'c, but not Apophis), presumably by hitting them in that same chainmail. And that's ignoring the presumably superior skill of Apophis' personal retinue as a factor.

It's telling that some of the better jaffa don't bother with armour at all; the seemingly elite jaffa Anubis deploys in 'Full Circle' are largely wearing leather armour, rather than the heavy stuff. And Anubis' personal retinue of Ninja-jaffa don't seem to bother with armour either.

[Brother-Captain Gaius]

Well, armor or not, there's some pretty big inconsistencies. I just re-watched the beginning of "Forever in a Day"; the Jaffa go down like wheat before the scythe. A Horus guard is hit in that armor plate by an M9 and goes down, and at least one regular Jaffa is very clearly shown being hit in the chest plate by MP5 fire, again going down easily.

[NecronLord]

Forever in a Day is a particularly prominent example of jaffa haplessness and ineptitude, though.

But yes. The Jaffa were never super. Kull Warriors were meant to be a super soldier, to serve a different story role - nemesis, like the terminator - rather than 'spear carrying extras.' And yeah, they raise the bar, too. But I don't see a problem when it's perfectly logical for Anubis to raise that bar. A matter of taste, I suppose.

[Big Orange]

Just now I've bought the DVD box sets of Season Three and Four of SG-1 - in my mind, the show was at it's best at that point.