Aliens vs Predator 2: Requiem trailer

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-08-26 12:29am

Honestly, if throwing Marines, Predators, and Xenomorphs together is good enough for numerous comic books and video games, then it's probably fine for a movie without going too much in depth. Just have it a few years after Aliens in some other distant portion of the colonies and you're set.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-08-26 12:30am

And holy shit - their unknown origin could be a part of the drama, JUST LIKE IN THE OTHER FUCKING MOVIES. What are these things? Where'd they even come from? Argh I am dead!

PREDATOR490 · Post by **PREDATOR490** » 2007-08-26 01:13am

Well AVP1 has already set the stage for a link to Aliens by having that Wayland guy so I wouldnt be too surprised to see the Android showing up in this movie. They havent linked to the Predator movies though, which might be done in this movie.

If the "containment" that was hinted to is part of a special directive/action the military have set up due to what happened in these movies then it would be a nice way of connecting the Predator series and would justify using a larger amount of military force. Would be better than going with the cliche painting of the military as incompetent evil idiots that go in clueless and exterminate everything for no good reason.

I like the idea of it being in a forest though. Aliens have mostly been limited to confined / remote areas but being in a forest / city with face huggers is a welcome change of venue and even seems more intimidating. I can easily see this movie ending with the equivelent of a nuke on the affected area like Resident Evil as a way of cheaply killing the hundreds of aliens that are sure to be shown.

I'm also catching the vibe of a cliff hanger ending so they can try to milk a trilogy out of this. Its the title that gives me the vibe the most I think, not sure why. I'm more hopeful of this bringing out a new AVP game.

Tanasinn · Post by **Tanasinn** » 2007-08-26 01:20am

I rather suspect "containment" will ultimately boil down to nuking the site from orbit (it's the only way to be sure).

PREDATOR490 · Post by **PREDATOR490** » 2007-08-26 01:40am

Tanasinn wrote:I rather suspect "containment" will ultimately boil down to nuking the site from orbit (it's the only way to be sure).

The shot of the bombs getting released pretty much gave that away but the military clips we got would at least appear to indicate at some point the "town" is lost with a bomb being dropped on it. There was also a scene with a map going orange at 1:32 which would suggest the region thats infected.

I'm really interested what happened at 1:02. I think its a pred alien thats stealthed or something which dosent really make sense. Predators get their stealth from technology so an alien shouldnt have that ability unless these things are intelligent enough to use Predator tools. Unless we end up with Face huggers grabbing animals while in the forest.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-08-26 01:50am

PREDATOR490 wrote:Well AVP1 has already set the stage for a link to Aliens by having that Wayland guy so I wouldnt be too surprised to see the Android showing up in this movie.

Seriously? The movie seems to take place in more or less the present day...

PREDATOR490 · Post by **PREDATOR490** » 2007-08-26 02:00am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
PREDATOR490 wrote:Well AVP1 has already set the stage for a link to Aliens by having that Wayland guy so I wouldnt be too surprised to see the Android showing up in this movie.
Seriously? The movie seems to take place in more or less the present day...

I seem to remember AVP1 had a comic / magazine saying Wayland was involved in robotics. Will have to watch it again to confirm but even if it isnt, it strikes me as the kind of thing that could be done for dramatic effect in the minds of people making this movie.

There is always the possibility that the android will be made towards the end from salvaged Predator technology that gets left behind in this carnage and kicks off Earth into getting space ships courtesy of Wayland Corp.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-08-26 02:09am

Since AvP is a hopeless abortion of a movie, it wouldn't surprise me if they decided to take a dump on the audience like that.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2007-08-26 04:38am

Temjin wrote:I'd like to say the trailer was decent, but honestly the whole thing was marred by the most stupid and cliched tag line ever.

Seriously, "In space, no one can hear you scream. On Earth, it won't matter." What the fuck's up with that? They might as well have had "It was a dark and stormy night....". It's about as original.

And to think, someone got PAID to come up with this shit. Fuck, I now want to work in an Hollywood marketing department. Easiest job ever

Well 'In space, no one can hear you scream' was the tag line for Alien.
Did the Predator movies have a tag line?

DesertFly · Post by **DesertFly** » 2007-08-26 04:58am

2000AD wrote:Well 'In space, no one can hear you scream' was the tag line for Alien.
Did the Predator movies have a tag line?

What movie doesn't? A quick search of IMDB turned up: If it bleeds, we can kill it...; It came for the thrill of the hunt. It picked the wrong man to hunt.; Soon the hunt will begin.; Nothing like it has ever been on earth before. And other cheesy 80's action movie lines.

Temjin · Post by **Temjin** » 2007-08-26 05:27am

2000AD wrote:Well 'In space, no one can hear you scream' was the tag line for Alien.
Did the Predator movies have a tag line?

Well then, it becomes a little less stupid.

....

...And from now on I'll do a little bit more research before I go off on a rant.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2007-08-26 08:39am

Molyneux wrote:The one thing that seriously pisses me off is the way these movies always play as a slaughterfest of the humans. There are much better ways to make a sci-fi action flick, or even a sci-fi horror-action film.

What are these better ways?

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-08-26 09:57am

Zuul wrote:
Molyneux wrote:The one thing that seriously pisses me off is the way these movies always play as a slaughterfest of the humans. There are much better ways to make a sci-fi action flick, or even a sci-fi horror-action film.
What are these better ways?

Let's see...environmental chills (something that I tend to doubt this film will have much of), slow building of tension, 'fright' scenes...

There's the time-honored 'accomplish something to stop the monster before they get at you' type of scene, too.

I'm mostly just annoyed that in almost every single horror movie I've seen, the vast majority of the cast dies. Often in illogical, suspension-of-disbelief-killing, outright-stupid ways.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2007-08-26 10:23am

Molyneux wrote: Let's see...environmental chills (something that I tend to doubt this film will have much of), slow building of tension, 'fright' scenes...

Environmental chills in Alien films are more to do with Gigeresque sets, which is part of the reason why setting it on modern Earth is a stupid idea; but you're not going to get Event Horizon stuff in either franchise, that would be as ill suited as the modern Earth setting.

Fact is, the aliens and predators are monsters. To be effective and in line with (at least some of) the thematic content of prior films, yes, they have to kill lots of people, otherwise you're left with cheap scares and no real threat.

There's the time-honored 'accomplish something to stop the monster before they get at you' type of scene, too.

That's like 4 or 5 scenes, that's not going to be enough to set the whole thematic content, which in this franchise is pretty obviously going to involve a bodycount. It'd be like a terminator film without a terminator chasing the protagonist. Pointless.

I'm mostly just annoyed that in almost every single horror movie I've seen, the vast majority of the cast dies. Often in illogical, suspension-of-disbelief-killing, outright-stupid ways.

That's kinda the point of monsters. They kill people and aren't easily dealt with. The rest is a problem with writing, not the fact that most of the main characters die.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2007-08-26 02:19pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well, looks like it'll at least deliver in terms of violence.

Plus I never knew the MPAA screens for restricted trailers were red...

They only are if the trailer itself is also considered to be rated R. Most of the time movie trailers for all types of mainstream movies purposely go for more tame trailers so they can be shown in front of movies that aren't rated R.

Baal · Post by **Baal** » 2007-08-26 04:32pm

One more thing. I want to see a facehugger miss. Other than when two of them tried to get Newt and Ripley in Aliens those damn things have a 100% accuracy right now.

I want to see someone duck a hugger and then start running. I dont care if they die 5 seconds later cause they run in front of a rednecks pickup truck (which would be great ironic humor), just make them miss on ocassion.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2007-08-26 07:54pm

Is there any chance of that Trailer getting attached to a movie in theaters? I'd love to see it in higher quality than YouTube, and on a larger screen than my monitor. I am going to see Halloween this Friday, hopefully it might get attached to that.

And on the subject of indiscriminate Predator killings, its possible that there purpose here is more than just sport hunting. Perhaps containing a parasite infection on a planet they'd like to see keep developing into more and more of a challenging hunting ground.

Admiral Drason · Post by **Admiral Drason** » 2007-08-26 08:01pm

PREDATOR490 wrote: The shot of the bombs getting released pretty much gave that away but the military clips we got would at least appear to indicate at some point the "town" is lost with a bomb being dropped on it. There was also a scene with a map going orange at 1:32 which would suggest the region thats infected.

I think that is Alien blood that is splattering on the screen.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-08-26 08:37pm

Baal wrote:One more thing. I want to see a facehugger miss. Other than when two of them tried to get Newt and Ripley in Aliens those damn things have a 100% accuracy right now.

At close range against unsuspecting or restrained targets, that's not surprising. In some general war scenario you'd expect them to have much worse results, but jumping onto the face of a basically stationary target isn't some impressive feat.

PREDATOR490 · Post by **PREDATOR490** » 2007-08-26 09:38pm

Admiral Drason wrote:
PREDATOR490 wrote: The shot of the bombs getting released pretty much gave that away but the military clips we got would at least appear to indicate at some point the "town" is lost with a bomb being dropped on it. There was also a scene with a map going orange at 1:32 which would suggest the region thats infected.
I think that is Alien blood that is splattering on the screen.

It is definetly not blood on the screen and according to some of the info I read the invisibile alien isnt stealthed... apparantly its just hiding behind a window.

Face huggers are obviously designed to hit their prey with as much certainty as possible because they have almost nothing to attack / defend with. The majority of situations you see them appear end up being in areas with cover to shield their movements. In the open facehuggers are extremely vulnerable so its more than likely that their instinct is to hide like the chestbuster.

I have heard alot of people complaining because of the scene with the Predator picking up two aliens in either hand and the Predalien shot. The Predalien is supposedly a female and possibly a queen but the actual Xenomorphs dont get a queen in this movie.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2007-08-26 10:46pm

Did anyone else notice that the aliens in this one have the Cameron-style bony heads?

PREDATOR490 · Post by **PREDATOR490** » 2007-08-26 11:21pm

Anarchist Bunny wrote: And on the subject of indiscriminate Predator killings, its possible that there purpose here is more than just sport hunting. Perhaps containing a parasite infection on a planet they'd like to see keep developing into more and more of a challenging hunting ground.

I dont think the Predator's ARE being indiscriminate. The trailer has shots of humans wielding Predator weapons. If thats the situation then I wouldnt be too surprised with the Predator reaction.
Since the army are supposedly locking the place down or evacuating then anyone left is either Alien food / infestation or a combatant. In either situation the best case scenario for the Predator(s) is to do exactly what the army will do and exterminate everything.

Might also explain why some the Predator(s) are being alot more proactive in taking out targets because this isnt a rookie hunt. The Predator(s) in this movie are supposed to be seasoned hunters with humans running around with their own weaponary while trying to engage regular aliens and a queen Predalien. I expect the Predalien is what the Predator is hunting because its a super kill in their minds so they just kill anything else rather than stop to take lesser trophies.

I'm reluctant to use the plural for Predators since the last movie ended up only with one after a few minutes and from the trailer I get the impression this movie will do the same. Some sites are calling him "Wolf" and hes some sort of elite Predator. Predators seem to hunt alone so either way the chances of more than one staying in the movie are unlikely I think.

Might explain why some humans get access to Predator weapons since they can loot it off the corpse of the ones that get dropped at some point. The other scenario is that the Predator ship is shot so they are stuck in the region until another comes to pick them up so essentially the Predators are working to kill the aliens and humans so they can survive.

Lord Insanity · Post by **Lord Insanity** » 2007-08-27 04:49pm

The youtube version has been pulled.

Fortunately I found IGN has it available for download in a much better resolution than youtube. (I assume its the same after reading the tread and watching it.) The orange on the screen definately seemed like splatter of something. All in all I'd say this movie looks awesome. But then I am a sucker for "popcorn flicks".

Lord Insanity · Post by **Lord Insanity** » 2007-08-27 07:18pm

Ghetto Edit: Upon rewatching the trailer the orange is displayed on the screen even though it looks like splatter at first.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2007-08-27 07:48pm

While i shall reserve final judgement until i see it, i like what i see so far. Personally i wonder how the Preds will respond to this scenario. They are not on a hunt, they are stuck on a planet populated with sapients that have machines that while primitive, can take them out as well as Xenos. I wonder how this will go.

Zor