Dr. Who is insidious..."Blink" spoilers

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2007-09-18 03:56pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Too bad we can't buy one of the prop statues. I'd love to have that in the garden waiting for the local primary school kids to walk past.

According to the podcast, there were no prop statues. It was all actors in makeup.

Yuri2356 · Post by **Yuri2356** » 2007-09-18 05:24pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:Too bad we can't buy one of the prop statues. I'd love to have that in the garden waiting for the local primary school kids to walk past.
According to the podcast, there were no prop statues. It was all actors in makeup.

Even better!

That way your angel can actually... you know... advance on the victims when they arren't looking.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-09-18 05:38pm

Drooling Iguana wrote: According to the podcast, there were no prop statues. It was all actors in makeup.

Really? Awesome. Now I need to hire one of those actors and pay them to sit in my yard for, well, all day.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2007-09-18 05:48pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote: According to the podcast, there were no prop statues. It was all actors in makeup.
Really? Awesome. Now I need to hire one of those actors and pay them to sit in my yard for, well, all day.

...also ruins your C-4 Idea....unless you wanna have 'em lob grenades at the kids...

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2007-09-18 05:59pm

Chardok wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote: According to the podcast, there were no prop statues. It was all actors in makeup.
Really? Awesome. Now I need to hire one of those actors and pay them to sit in my yard for, well, all day.
...also ruins your C-4 Idea....unless you wanna have 'em lob grenades at the kids...

Screw the C4. When those kids look back again, she'll have come much closer. That'll fuck them up right there!

So, I don't need to get a sculptor but an actress and a make-up artist. Still hard to acquire...

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2007-09-18 06:20pm

Curse the lack of edit button.

Here's the behind the scenes on Youtube.

By the way, Carey Mulligan (Sally) has a sexy goddamn voice.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2007-09-29 11:53pm

BEHOLD MY NECROMANTIC POWERS! RISE, O SOULLESS THREAD! RISE AND WALK!

Seriously, though. Don't think this is worthy of a new thread. I thought I would query you guys from here when questions pop up.

SPOILERIZED just in case...

Umm....Just started season one and...well..WTF?! IT'S A DIFFERENT DOC-TOR!

Why did they switch? Did Mr. Raines decide he no likey being the DOC-TOR or did he just suck? (Honestly, I prefer the new one...he has a crazy look about him that I find endearing.)

mr friendly guy · Post by **mr friendly guy** » 2007-09-30 12:09am

Chardok wrote: Umm....Just started season one and...well..WTF?! IT'S A DIFFERENT DOC-TOR!

Why did they switch? Did Mr. Raines decide he no likey being the DOC-TOR or did he just suck? (Honestly, I prefer the new one...he has a crazy look about him that I find endearing.)

No need to worry about spoilerising. Every other Doctor Who fan on this board is aware of it.

Its called regenerations. Essentially when a Time Lord "life" is near the end either through age or injury, they "regenerate". Most time lords like the Doctor have poor control over this process, so as a previous Doctor remarked, thats the problem with regeneration, you are never sure what you are going to get.

So out of universe, when the Doctor changes actors, the plot explanation is that he has regenerated. TL can regenerate 12 times, meaning they have up to 13 incarnations, ie we can have 13 Doctor Who actors until the character "dies" (unless they use some plot device to go beyond this, and yeah other Time Lords like the Master has done this).

David Tennant is the 10th Doctor (although not the 10th person to play him if you count parody skits, stunt doubles and specials where guest actors take on the role of previous doctors because the original actor had already died).

Causes of the Doctors regeneration from the old series to new

First to second doctor - Old age ("The tenth planet)

Second to Third doctor - Execution by the Time Lords ("Wargames")

Third to fourth doctor - Exposure to technobabble radiation (Planet of the spiders)

fourth to fifth - Falling from a height of at least several hundred metres and hitting the ground hard (Logopolis)

Fifth to sixth - Exposure to weird poison (Caves of Androzani)

sixth to seventh - Apparently hitting his head on the TARDIS floor after the TARDIS was knocked out of the sky. (Time and the Rani)

Seventh of eighth - being shot with so many bullets a rhino would go down (Crappy eighth doctor movie which was titled Doctor Who : The enemy within or some such)

Eight to ninth - not shown. No doubt sometime they will write some EU story explaining it

Ninth to tenth - Absorbed tons of energy from the Time Vortex to save Rose Tyler (Parting of ways)

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2007-09-30 01:19am

I would imagine the eighth doctor died somewhere in the last Time War.

mr friendly guy · Post by **mr friendly guy** » 2007-09-30 04:04am

He may very well have "died" prior to the Time War for all we know. Although CC may have a point, given that the Dalek in "Dalek" didn't seem to recognise Christopher Eccleston's doctor, so he may have regenerated during the final battle.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2007-09-30 05:00am

I thought that the Daleks were able to recognise the Doctor regardless of his regeneration?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-09-30 05:09am

Gandalf wrote:I thought that the Daleks were able to recognise the Doctor regardless of his regeneration?

Seemingly. Unless they twig that Tennant's an enemy of the daleks because he played one in the audio plays.

Johndug · Post by **Johndug** » 2007-09-30 10:26am

In regards to the 13 regenerations of a time lord it seems that that limit is not as concrete as some people believe. The Master was himself Resurrected by the Time Lords specifically for the War. That may just be a limit imposed by the Time Lords on themselves or Renegades. It was also inferred by the time lord in the five doctors that if the master did the bidding of the Time Lords then he would be rewarded with a new set of regenerations.

In regards to the explainations my favorite was to Mickey the idiot "Ricky, if I was to explain to you how I was fixing my frankly magnificant timeship do you really think you would understand any of it?"

An in regard to the family of blood, yes do not fuck wth a Lord of Time. Its just not smart, ask the Delek's who had their whole timeline fucked with in a preemptive strike.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2007-09-30 10:46am

Gandalf wrote:I thought that the Daleks were able to recognise the Doctor regardless of his regeneration?

They didn't recognise the sixth Doctor in "Revelation of the Daleks", or the seventh in "Remembrance of the Daleks."

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2007-09-30 10:56am

Vaporous wrote:I don't remember where I left my link, but there's probably some places online where you can go back and watch the entire lot (or at least the good ones).

I recommend "Dalek", "School Reunion", "The Girl in the Fireplace" and "Utopia" most highly.

The best place for all your Who and Torchwood viewing

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-09-30 11:00am

Johndug wrote:In regards to the 13 regenerations of a time lord it seems that that limit is not as concrete as some people believe. The Master was himself Resurrected by the Time Lords specifically for the War. That may just be a limit imposed by the Time Lords on themselves or Renegades. It was also inferred by the time lord in the five doctors that if the master did the bidding of the Time Lords then he would be rewarded with a new set of regenerations.

Its pretty much been established that there's plenty of ways around the 13 regeneration limit by the older series. The Master's more than gone through 13, and even transferred himself into new bodies. Although given the lack of Timelord technology at present this might be somewhat more difficult to pull off.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2007-09-30 02:04pm

When I found out that Daleks should be able to recognize the Dr. I put for this postulation: The Dalek in "Dalek" Was badly injured; dying, in fact. It is entirely plausible that his optics were damaged. Even the lady in the complex said that he had likely gone insane, anyway. (If that's possible for a Dalek). Anyway, I'll stick with the "The Dalek had trouble seeing" theory.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2007-09-30 02:10pm

Except that it's already been established that Daleks do not recognise the Doctor from one regeneration to the next, so there's nothing to explain.

Johndug · Post by **Johndug** » 2007-09-30 02:11pm

Im not os sure that its a obstacle to the Doctor. granted he has been inconvienenced by having to repower the TARDIS once and a while however we are talking about someone who is for or less at this point regarded as the last force of nature in the Who Timeline.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2007-09-30 02:45pm

My memory is fuzzy but "Daleks in Manhatten" didn't the Daleks not recognise the Doctor until he started talking to them? Surely they saw him before in his current form.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2007-09-30 06:35pm

Enigma wrote:My memory is fuzzy but "Daleks in Manhatten" didn't the Daleks not recognise the Doctor until he started talking to them? Surely they saw him before in his current form.

Not in the series they didn't. The last contact between Daleks and the Doctor before that was 'Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways' and he was still the Eccleston Doctor then.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-09-30 06:47pm

Except, err, Doomsday? Where the cult saw him on a big holo-screen?

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2007-09-30 06:55pm

Your point. Looks like I had The Daleks of Manhattan figured in the wrong season.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-09-30 06:56pm

It sucked so bad it transcends seasons.

mr friendly guy · Post by **mr friendly guy** » 2007-09-30 06:59pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:
Gandalf wrote:I thought that the Daleks were able to recognise the Doctor regardless of his regeneration?
They didn't recognise the sixth Doctor in "Revelation of the Daleks", or the seventh in "Remembrance of the Daleks."

The most damning case was in "Day of the Daleks" where they heard the Doctor's name from a human slave and needed to mind probe the Doctor to make sure if it really was him or just someone with a similar name.