Alien races the Galactic Empire would likely recurit

[Commander Xillian]

Not just a PR disaster, you'd have to deal with the Dakka Stah!

And considering shit like the Galaxy Gun are commonplace in SW, I wouldn't put it past them to make enough Dakka...

[Simon_Jester]

The Delgonians would be a useful terror weapon and would probably be very useful against the Rebel Alliance - they could telepathically convince people who fit a certain profile (say that of Mon Mothma) to come to them, and would probably be happy to work with the GE (although they'd see it as "with", not "for", given their mentalities) in exchange for lots of sentients to suck the life force out of.

True, though the Delgonians are range-limited.

As far as Civilisations' races go... I'm sure you could get Rigellians working for you (they're pretty passive most of the time it seems), and maybe Palainians so long as you watched them the whole time.

The problem with Palainians is that for them "ignore and be ignored" is the prime tenet. You want to deal with them, but do they want to deal with you? The Rigelians as portrayed in First Lensman are similarly isolationist- are any but the most extraordinary (anomalous? perverse?) members of their race interested in interacting with galactic society? Again, you want to deal with them; do they want to deal with you?

Of course, any Lensman species that has a sense of perception would be very desirable in Star Wars, so I'm sure they can find potential candidates of other races... Ordoviks? Posenians? Dunno.

...perhaps also the Medonians as they were pretty good scientists.

Given the power levels they sling around, it seems likely that the Empire has already mastered energy manipulation on the level the Medonians work at (practically perfect superconductors and resistors). On the other hand, Medonian medical science arguably has a leg up on the Empire. So... dunno.

Looking at the Skylark books, the Norlaminians could be easily used given how pacifist & scientifically advanced they are - tuck them away somewhere quiet & "borrow" all their research.

Oh heavens yes. Worked for DuQuesne...

although Gharlane of Eddore against Palpatine himself would be entertaining.

But short .

Depends on how subtle Gharlane chose to be. Though what I'd really love to see would be the look on Palpatine's face when he realizes that he's finally met an entity who is an infinitely greater Sith than he can ever be.

Because the other guy is a cartoon villain .

I'd love to see DuQuesne square off against Palpatine though - that match-up would be a lot more interesting than "lol I just effectorised your entire government's brains from a million LYs away" Eddorian mental powers .

Ooh. That would be nice.

Not just a PR disaster, you'd have to deal with the Dakka Stah!

And considering shit like the Galaxy Gun are commonplace in SW, I wouldn't put it past them to make enough Dakka...

Never enuff dakka!

But seriously, Star Wars comes pretty close. A Galaxy Gun with more barrels and a belt feed... yeah, pretty close.

[Themightytom]

He could befriend the Lanteans long enough to steal their tech base )Inter galactic hyperdirve, cloak, Stargates, healing devices, personal force fields, ZPM's,) and start dissecting them to replicate their enhanced healing abilities like Anya had.. Do they count as human, not being from earth?

The Betazed from Star Trek would be handy as a secret police force, I mean a bunch of mind reading human identical non force sensitives?

Kryptonians might be handy, assuming the Emperor took steps to control them instead of annihilating their planet outright. They look human so wouldn't offend his anti Alien rhetoric, have a good tech base and he can permit 3 or 4 out of the system every now and then to be a strike team/agents of terror.

Probably should not let them near tattooine though

[Night_stalker]

Who needs mindreaders when I can have people who can tor- I mean question harshly?

Plus, after the Orks are done, just BDZ. I was thinking for deployment, that I just have a few Orks deploy down to the surface like Dark Troopers, and let nature take its course.

[Commander Xillian]

Hmm, see, there in lies the problem. It's getting RID of the Orks after you're done. See... Orks, are like Shingles. They keep coming back no matter what and WILL put you in a really bad spot if you're not very very careful.

[Jaevric]

Plus, after the Orks are done, just BDZ. I was thinking for deployment, that I just have a few Orks deploy down to the surface like Dark Troopers, and let nature take its course.

...If you're going to BDZ the planet, why bother sending in troops in the first place?

[Night_stalker]

Why, to make sure the target is destroyed, and didnt escape. Plus, I didn't think BDZing the whole planet would be needed, but rather the area where they landed.

[Teleros]

The Delgonians would be a useful terror weapon and would probably be very useful against the Rebel Alliance - they could telepathically convince people who fit a certain profile (say that of Mon Mothma) to come to them, and would probably be happy to work with the GE (although they'd see it as "with", not "for", given their mentalities) in exchange for lots of sentients to suck the life force out of.

True, though the Delgonians are range-limited.

Yeah, but we know that Dantooine, say, is too remote to be a rebel base, so there are obviously areas where rebel bases likely are. Stick a few Delgonians around in those areas and see what you can fish up in their net.

As far as Civilisations' races go... I'm sure you could get Rigellians working for you (they're pretty passive most of the time it seems), and maybe Palainians so long as you watched them the whole time.

The problem with Palainians is that for them "ignore and be ignored" is the prime tenet. You want to deal with them, but do they want to deal with you? The Rigelians as portrayed in First Lensman are similarly isolationist- are any but the most extraordinary (anomalous? perverse?) members of their race interested in interacting with galactic society? Again, you want to deal with them; do they want to deal with you?

I was thinking more of threatening Palainians or something (or promising huge rewards). The Rigellian professor in FL says that they tend to take the path of least resistance... once discovered, they could presumably be conscripted or something into aiding the Empire.

Of course, any Lensman species that has a sense of perception would be very desirable in Star Wars, so I'm sure they can find potential candidates of other races... Ordoviks? Posenians? Dunno.

Just imagine how the end of RotJ would've gone if the bunker commander had had a sense of perception...
"The AT-ST pilot must be lying, I can perceive ewoks & rebels all around the bunker entrance. Guess they can't get in - summon more reinforcements quickly in case they can blow the door."

...perhaps also the Medonians as they were pretty good scientists.

Given the power levels they sling around, it seems likely that the Empire has already mastered energy manipulation on the level the Medonians work at (practically perfect superconductors and resistors). On the other hand, Medonian medical science arguably has a leg up on the Empire. So... dunno.

True, but the Medonians seemed to be pretty good scientists anyway (they developed tech that was GP / Boskonian level with seemingly no outside help after all). Give them SW tech to work with and enough time to get used to it...

Not just a PR disaster, you'd have to deal with the Dakka Stah!

And considering shit like the Galaxy Gun are commonplace in SW, I wouldn't put it past them to make enough Dakka...

Never enuff dakka!

But seriously, Star Wars comes pretty close. A Galaxy Gun with more barrels and a belt feed... yeah, pretty close.

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Nah boss, my meks is gonna make it fire roks full of da boyz...

[NecronLord]

He could befriend the Lanteans long enough to steal their tech base )Inter galactic hyperdirve, cloak, Stargates, healing devices, personal force fields, ZPM's,) and start dissecting them to replicate their enhanced healing abilities like Anya had.. Do they count as human, not being from earth?

They repeatedly call themselves human.

[Commander Xillian]

Nah boss, my meks is gonna make it fire roks full of da boyz...

I'll Bring da Fightan Juice!

[Simon_Jester]

Yeah, but we know that Dantooine, say, is too remote to be a rebel base, so there are obviously areas where rebel bases likely are. Stick a few Delgonians around in those areas and see what you can fish up in their net.

I don't recall evidence of standard Delgonians being able to work at interstellar ranges.

I was thinking more of threatening Palainians or something (or promising huge rewards). The Rigellian professor in FL says that they tend to take the path of least resistance... once discovered, they could presumably be conscripted or something into aiding the Empire.

Probably, I guess. Be a bit tricky, but could work.

True, but the Medonians seemed to be pretty good scientists anyway (they developed tech that was GP / Boskonian level with seemingly no outside help after all). Give them SW tech to work with and enough time to get used to it...

True. And their medical science is quite advanced, even by SW standards- they were very close to a practical regeneration treatment that Vader would burn worlds for.

[adam_grif]

That's always seemed wierd to me. SWverse is like, "blowing up planets? No problem! Crossing the galaxy in hours? Old news. Regenerating a body? Can't do it..."


Yeah yeah "no such thing as tech levels" and all that, but you'd have thought vader could have had a team of scientists working on that. It's shocking that nobody would have done it previously. Are there no wealthy burns-victims in SWverse? Does no planet in the galaxy fund medical research?

[Simon_Jester]

I think they do, and there's just no way to do it in that setting, even for a civilization that has more or less maxed out its technological prowess.

[adam_grif]

If somebody's face can be built by their own body as they grow up, then it can be regenerated with sufficiently advanced medical science. Whether it's advanced biotech or nanotech (granted those two fields overlap), it can be done.

[Commander Xillian]

Alright, I expect this to generate much Skub and rage, but here it goes.

Would the Empire be interested in possibly creating an Alliance with the Combine Empire? I'm thinking that, after the first few days of war, the Combine might eventually come to acknowledge the Galactic Empires sovereignty. I for one think that the Synth technology could be particularly potent and useful to the GE, especially given that those wonderous AT-AT's would become far more reliable with a living being having complete control of the limbs, rather than having it be manipulated via pilots.

Assuming the GE manage to hold out beyond seven hours...

[Teleros]

Yeah, but we know that Dantooine, say, is too remote to be a rebel base, so there are obviously areas where rebel bases likely are. Stick a few Delgonians around in those areas and see what you can fish up in their net.

I don't recall evidence of standard Delgonians being able to work at interstellar ranges.

Off-hand they worked at interplanetary ranges (Delgon & Velantia), and I believe Worsel suspected them of being behind the Hellhole in Space, however big that was again. Still, they can work from starships as well - imagine one accompanying Vader when the Tantive IV was captured.

[Simon_Jester]

Off-hand they worked at interplanetary ranges (Delgon & Velantia), and I believe Worsel suspected them of being behind the Hellhole in Space, however big that was again.

Yes, but he suspected some kind of super-Delgonian; the Delgonian equivalent of an L2, who would presumably have boosted range.

Still, they can work from starships as well - imagine one accompanying Vader when the Tantive IV was captured.

Thank you, sir, but I would prefer not to...

[Commander Xillian]

Sorry I'm a bit lost... What's a Delgonian?

[Simon_Jester]

Aliens from Dr. Edward Elmer Smith's Lensman series, which was pretty much the genre founder for space opera*. Delgonians are powerful telepaths, capable of broadcasting hypnotic suggestions over interplanetary distances (at least against soft targets). Their favorite recreational activity is to hypnotize the strongest-minded subjects they can find, lure them back to a hidden base, and kill them slowly over a period of days with a combination of physical torture and mindrape.

So yeah, pretty horrific. And quite dangerous unless you are either an even more powerful telepath, or protected by artificial anti-telepathy screens.

*When George Lucas was a kid, he wanted to make stories like Lensman when he grew up. He... almost succeeded.

[Eternal_Freedom]

Hmm, someone above said it. But I'll say it again because I think it's awesome.

GE and Necrontyr. Ouch. Inertialess engines, Gauss weaponry, particle whips, all that other horrible deadly stuff. Necrodermis living metal for battlesuits and starship hulls. Big ouch-time for the Rebellion

Or, worse, the GE and the proper Necrons and C'Tan. The only advantage the GE would have would be being able to supply a night-endless quantity of food for the C'Tan's hunger, with the ysalamiri-boosted Spaarti cylinders that turn up in the Thrawn trilogy.

IIRC correctly, various parts of the Codex mention the C'Tan having travelled to other galaxies and so on, so Palpatine can spread his Empire for all eternity

[Commander Xillian]

Yeah, but remember, the Nightbringer's hunger is damn-near insatiable. He ate, essentually, every other C'tan not powerful enough or smart enough to defend themselves, so the C'tan are as cold, calculating, and unforgiving as the real world. Therefore, I think that only the Imperial, grim, and rather self-centered Necrontyr would be interested in an alliance. Don't have the Codex on me, but it does state that the Necrontyr were royally destroying the Old ones when there was a stand-up fight, but ultimately lost due to the speed with which the Web-way let the Old Ones move.

EDIT: And don't forget their lack of the Force! The Necrons/Necrontyr would be immune and unneffectable by Force powers, more so with the Necrons.

[Eternal_Freedom]

Very true, I hadn't considered the Force.

Yeah, I know the Nightbringer's hunger is nearly insatiable. So let him loose on the REbellions more populated worlds, and tide him over with millions upon millions of clones in the meantime

I mean, surely if you build enough Spaarti cylinders and clone/breed enough ysalamiri, there isnt really a limit to the number of clones?

[Commander Xillian]

Another big thing, is that the C'tan feast on Life force, not so much Souls, so they could be malformed, they jsut need to be alive and intelligent. So long as they, say, feel fear of death, then Nighty-Night will be just as content as if it was a normal human. Hell, engineering a race of easily-cloned humans who are hopelessly afraid of death, and what you have is Nightbringer Caviar.

... So, yeah, I guess you could control the Necrons! Welp, looks like the Galaxy will be rid of those annoying rebels, nevermind a golden age of technology.

[Night_stalker]

Nice, now the Rebellion is truly crushed. Maybe we could send a present to Yavin IV, say a Cairn class tomb ship...

[NecronLord]

Hmm, someone above said it. But I'll say it again because I think it's awesome.

GE and Necrontyr. Ouch. Inertialess engines, Gauss weaponry, particle whips, all that other horrible deadly stuff. Necrodermis living metal for battlesuits and starship hulls. Big ouch-time for the Rebellion

Or, worse, the GE and the proper Necrons and C'Tan. The only advantage the GE would have would be being able to supply a night-endless quantity of food for the C'Tan's hunger, with the ysalamiri-boosted Spaarti cylinders that turn up in the Thrawn trilogy.

IIRC correctly, various parts of the Codex mention the C'Tan having travelled to other galaxies and so on, so Palpatine can spread his Empire for all eternity

There should probably be a 'don't ally with things that will eat your brain and assume your form to steal your empire' clause. It's kinda like the Affronters. They may want to ally with them, but the Affronters would be more likely to just invade Coruscant for shits and giggles and geld the inhabitants and use them as tools in some new athletic sport.

As for scale, according to Mechanicum, the Void Dragon was worshipped in 'a thousand galaxies'