R Rated 'Predators' trailer

[Admiral Valdemar]

Maybe the planet/moon has less gravity (PS. did people fell to death on Pandora? Can't remember)

Pandora had less gravity, but the only reason Sully didn't kill himself (twice; once with a practice jump, once being blown off the crashing Dragon) was because of a LOT of foliage slowing him down. No such luck on this Pred planet. Guy falling is burger, unless something happens before he hits the ground.

[jollyreaper]

Why do they even bother writing new scripts for these movies when they already have perfectly fine Dark Horse comics to work from? The first Predator comic would have made a fine sequel. The original Aliens v. Predator, also great. Why not work from that?

Also don't like taking humans to another world. Why not fight them here on Earth? That's the whole challenge.

[Srelex]

Because some of us want, you know, something original? And besides, a lot of the alien/predator comics just look like shit.

[jollyreaper]

Because some of us want, you know, something original? And besides, a lot of the alien/predator comics just look like shit.

Original. How's that been working out for you? Aliens 3 and 4, avp 1 and 2, predator 2 and now this movie. Seen anything good yet?



The first AVP comic was good stuff.

I'm just vastly disappointed when multi-million dollar productions can't rise to the standards set by comic books produced for less money than the director's monthly coke budget.

[Srelex]

Frankly, I couldn't care less about some piece of shit comic that's only accessible via the dankest corners of a local comic book store. As long as this film manages to replicate the feel of the first two, which were awesome, I'm fine.

[Sarevok]

Frankly, I couldn't care less about some piece of shit comic that's only accessible via the dankest corners of a local comic book store. As long as this film manages to replicate the feel of the first two, which were awesome, I'm fine.

Franky I could care less about opinions of an obscure forum user accesible only via posts made on a little known geek website. As long as the comic manages to be entertaining I am fine.

Seriously dude, the AvP comics led to things like the Avp games. They brought the idea of mingling two different scifi movies into the mainstream. They deserve credit for being original and starting something.

[Srelex]

Yeah, and? What I've seen of them didn't appeal to me. Edit: So I'm not going to moan if the film distances itself from them.

[jollyreaper]

Yeah, and? What I've seen of them didn't appeal to me. Edit: So I'm not going to moan if the film distances itself from them.

Without the comics, there wouldn't have been movies. Of course you can point to any number of movies that people have loved which most people did not know were not originals but adaptations. Some of these beloved movies were very unfaithful to the original material. But few people would argue that the recent spate of Aliens and Predator movies have been any good. In that case, maybe it might be worth taking another look at the comics since they were good enough to make people think a movie might be worth the effort.

[Vympel]

The biggest fuck up of the AvP movies was that they were too dumbshit to realise that when people thinks Aliens, the Colonial Marines are part of the package. I can't think of a less interesting premise than the modern-day, Earth centric garbage they came up with.

[adam_grif]

The biggest fuck up of the AvP movies was that they were too dumbshit to realise that when people thinks Aliens, the Colonial Marines are part of the package. I can't think of a less interesting premise than the modern-day, Earth centric garbage they came up with.

I know, right? All of the fucking games have it. As far as I can tell the comics have it. The idiot producers apparently think that the future setting is somehow not appropriate? I think they tried to take the setting from Predator each time, with a relatively isolated location in the modern day.

Shame they fucking blew.

[neoolong]

Actually, the original Alien vs. Predator comic, if wikipedia is correct, was the one on Ryushi with Machiko Noguchi. It was set on a backwater ranching world and there weren't any marines to speak of. Although, you can easily stick in a garrison of USCMC guys to beef up the action and you can use the same plot for a movie.

Setting it on an alien world also lets them create new xenomorph hybrids. Though, setting it on Earth also does, if they bothered to have the facehuggers implant in a bear or something.

[Stark]

Except nobody gives a fuck about hybrids except fat people. Aliens + Predators + the Army = obvious, so obvious even the games have it. The AvP movies weren't just teribble, they were obviously terrible premises.

And seriously the AvP comics were so stupid they had a predator fleet (invisble of course even though all the ships in the movies were clearly visible) invade LA. Because... something.

[neoolong]

If the species has the trait, it should actually come up more than the couple of times in five movies. It gives it some variety. Aliens did the whole military vs. standard bugs thing already.

[adam_grif]

And seriously the AvP comics were so stupid they had a predator fleet (invisble of course even though all the ships in the movies were clearly visible) invade LA. Because... something.

90% of everything is shit. No exceptions.

That said, having invisible ships is hardly stupid if you can do it. Especially if you can magitech stealth away the IR output.

It's been a while, but was the ship in Predator 2 invisible?

[Eviscerator]

It's been a while, but was the ship in Predator 2 invisible?

The opening scenes of Predator 2 included fly bys of LA in IR which i suppose were done by something flying past

To not rehash a whole lot of things: The AVP movie blew. Seriously.

1) 1 Warrior Alien taking out TWO Predators - Is this on Nightmare mode or what?
2) Send your young untried Predators in with wristblades that cant take acid
3) After supposedly knowing Aliens inside out since OVER 9000 years ago - take in the body of the sole survivor and display him without even scanning him for some surprises.

[jollyreaper]

The biggest fuck up of the AvP movies was that they were too dumbshit to realise that when people thinks Aliens, the Colonial Marines are part of the package. I can't think of a less interesting premise than the modern-day, Earth centric garbage they came up with.

Agreed. Maybe they couldn't license the colonial marines material because of cameron? Maybe the modern day setting was a cost-cutting measure? What's always irritating is when you get someone on a project who doesn't understand why the setting works the way it does and decides to make all sorts of changes so the result bears no relation to the original. Let's make a catwoman movie without anything from the comics that made it catwoman. Let's do starship troopers without power armor and make it a satire against what we mispercieve heinlein's beliefs to be. Let's make a spiderman movie but have Parker be a whiny little shit who mumbles all the time and can't make a convincing wisecrack to save his life. We're playing against expectations here! And we can't forget trying to play up the homoeroticism of batman and robin with the fetish nipple suits. Yeah, becUse your target demo was just begging for more gay in their batman. Let's move beyond the stylistic restraint of the Adam west years and truly explore the camp space the fans demand. Thank Cthulhu that guy got fired from the franchise before he got around to bribing in a leather daddy as a villain/love interest.

[jollyreaper]

Except nobody gives a fuck about hybrids except fat people. Aliens + Predators + the Army = obvious, so obvious even the games have it. The AvP movies weren't just teribble, they were obviously terrible premises.

And seriously the AvP comics were so stupid they had a predator fleet (invisble of course even though all the ships in the movies were clearly visible) invade LA. Because... something.

the ship was visible in the first movie for us the fans to see something. You can be sure nobody in the military saw anything on the scopes.

In the comic the predators and the military were gearing up for a war, not a hunt. And that's why the predators backed down, especially when the rain came. The heat was gone, the hunt was over, and they didn't intend to conquer NYC. Total war isn't their hat. They like to bring just a few high tech tots and go primitive on savage worlds. They have nuke devices to remove evidence Nd prevent their tech from being salvaged. They could drop big versions of that if they wanted to. They don't. They do tend to lose their shot when one of twir own is killed. Loved how they went nuts in the jungle at the narc base after our hero killed the one.

[Anguirus]

I'm going to the world premiere of this movie tonight in Austin, Texas.

[jollyreaper]

I'm going to the world premiere of this movie tonight in Austin, Texas.

Here's hoping it doesn't suck! The last movie that surprised me against all expectations was Iron Man 1. That movie was so much better than it should have been. Heard the sequel was less stellar but haven't seen it yet to confirm that.

[Anguirus]

Saw it! Best Predator sequel, certainly. Robert Rodriguez, Adrian Brody, and the director came out for Q&A afterward.

Oh, and I used the urinal next to Rodriguez minutes before the show started. And then I told him I was a big fan!

It's quite fanwanky, but in a way (usually) more subtle than the AvP movies. The characters are an enjoyable bunch of bastards. Adrien Brody certainly brings the best acting chops the series has ever had, and he's a convincing hardcore badass. They also did a good job introducing some new hunting techniques for the Predators, which make perfect sense for them despite being fresh and new.

It's INTENSE. There is also a good variety of action scenes, which is very nice and keeps you interested in a film like this. (It has its twists but obviously won't bring home any awards for the screenplay.)

[Vympel]

Just saw it - it was indeed awesome. The only opportunity they missed was having the actors mugging for the camera at the end in the credits.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Just saw it - it was indeed awesome. The only opportunity they missed was having the actors mugging for the camera at the end in the credits.

Heh, Predator was on FilmFour last Friday, and I sent a text to my brother saying "I can't remember the last time a film did that awesome roll call with the cast at the end", which he was going to mention at the same time. I miss that eighties touch.

Also, the score, how was it? I heard it was very Silvestri-esque. I shall find out tomorrow, I guess.

[Vympel]

Its pretty much the same score. I suppose you could go so far to say it was unimaginative, but I missed that score.

[Ilya Muromets]

Looks pretty cool, but did they just have someone surviving a freefal drop? o_O

Well, it looks like these guys have been abducted from whatever they'd been doing last then dumped on the planet. I'm at least assuming that their drop was somehow softened by the Predators or something unless they think hunting a bunch of corpses or people with a helluva lot of fractures is sport.

[SylasGaunt]

Looks pretty cool, but did they just have someone surviving a freefal drop? o_O

Well, it looks like these guys have been abducted from whatever they'd been doing last then dumped on the planet. I'm at least assuming that their drop was somehow softened by the Predators or something unless they think hunting a bunch of corpses or people with a helluva lot of fractures is sport.

It's pretty minor since it happens in the first few minutes but spoilerized anyway: Spoiler

The preds stuck parachutes on them.