All the same. In a nihilistic universe where normal sentient beings could become victims to indifferent and malicious Cosmic Horrors they can't comprehend, at least one of them with the power and the benevolent intent should step up to bring some semblance of Order and Protection.lordofchange13 wrote:Uplifting it a better alternative to your original plan. But now your only killing the non-existent evil ones, you don't need to uplift humanity.SpaceMarine93 wrote: And why uplift humanity to Cosmic Entities levels when you could let them find a way to do it for themselves?
RAR : Becoming a Q
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Re: RAR : Becoming a Q
Life sucks and is probably meaningless, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to be good.
--- The Anti-Nihilist view in short.
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Re: RAR : Becoming a Q
Is a layer of physics needed to allow for FTL and some kick-ass Sci Fi tech?
If not add it
Then slowly advance humanity to mastery of the universe.
Oh, and start running people into RARs for amusement. Subjects must be willing and will be compensated.
If not add it
Then slowly advance humanity to mastery of the universe.
Oh, and start running people into RARs for amusement. Subjects must be willing and will be compensated.
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It's so when they comment on or approve of something, I know what pages to block/what not to vote for.
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SpaceMarine, you keep taking about "eldritch horrors" and "normal sentient beings." How are you defining "normal sentient beings"? Like us humans presumably? It's a very slippery slope to start wiping out species who don't fit your view of "normal."
Given the ideas you've posted, I think my first act as Q would be to obliterate you and any influence you might ever have had upon history. Just to be sure.
Given the ideas you've posted, I think my first act as Q would be to obliterate you and any influence you might ever have had upon history. Just to be sure.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
Re: RAR : Becoming a Q
*sigh*
Before this turn into another dragon rapelay thread, new rule :
Each SDNer who see the offer proposed to them exist in his own reality : no interaction is possible between Q'ed SDNer because they don't exist in the same reality.
Before this turn into another dragon rapelay thread, new rule :
Each SDNer who see the offer proposed to them exist in his own reality : no interaction is possible between Q'ed SDNer because they don't exist in the same reality.
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Even given that, I'm still going to annihilate Spacemarine, even if it is the Spacemarine in my reality.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
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I'll just make an Abomination preserve just to off set the Spacemarine's genocide in some other part of them multiverse.
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"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
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That works too.lordofchange13 wrote:I'll just make a abominations preserve just to off set the Spacemarine's genocide in some other part of them multiverse.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
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I said it before and Ill say it again. Or rather, Ill let a man greater than me do the talking.
"He who fights monsters..."
But lets not gang up. Instead, how about we return to my humans need reeducation thesis?
"He who fights monsters..."
But lets not gang up. Instead, how about we return to my humans need reeducation thesis?
It has become clear to me in the previous days that any attempts at reconciliation and explanation with the community here has failed. I have tried my best. I really have. I pored my heart out trying. But it was all for nothing.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
You win. There, I have said it.
Now there is only one thing left to do. Let us see if I can sum up the strength needed to end things once and for all.
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This made me think of the Joker from the Dark Knight. With Q's power i think i will go to the Stargate universe and take all the Ancients and put them in the Reality Dysfunction afterlife, during the run of the show they infuriated me so much!Rabid wrote:
"There is no such thing as coincidence in this world - there is only inevitability"
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
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I am not suggesting genocide per say - just the ones who decide to cause harm to other lesser alien races. There is a very thick line between insanity-inducing alien monsters with god-like powers over reality and sentient beings who needs to cross interstellar space in a buzzard ramjet.lordofchange13 wrote:I'll just make an Abomination preserve just to off set the Spacemarine's genocide in some other part of them multiverse.
Life sucks and is probably meaningless, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to be good.
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Kill mammals to save microbes, to give a metaphor. But it is your power do what you wont.SpaceMarine93 wrote:I am not suggesting genocide per say - just the ones who decide to cause harm to other lesser alien races. There is a very thick line between insanity-inducing alien monsters with god-like powers over reality and sentient beings who needs to cross interstellar space in a buzzard ramjet.lordofchange13 wrote:I'll just make an Abomination preserve just to off set the Spacemarine's genocide in some other part of them multiverse.
Didn't the OP state we couldn't use our powers to kill things?
"There is no such thing as coincidence in this world - there is only inevitability"
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
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Remove as in, lock the offenders in a parallel universe prison, empty of all life, where they would do no harm, and the laws of physics would be slightly altered so that they won't be able to escape. The rest who don't harm lesser alien races are free to carry on their existence doing whatever they usually do.
Life sucks and is probably meaningless, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to be good.
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What the fuck is up with this eldritch horror bullshit? It's like if you ask an 18th century sea captain "what if we gave you future Q RAR hypothetical explosive devices" and he'd scream about using it to dynamite all the horrible monstrosities lurking in the abyssal depths of the ocean. Then he'd shit his pants when he is teleported into the future and sees Jacques Cousteau cage diving in a bathysphere with a great white shark in the Marianas Trench.
When mankind gets Q'ed into a higher state of being, exploring the great unknown and whatever wonders and horrors lie within it is going to be like diving into a coral reef and swimming with the morays and barracudas - extremely dangerous things that can end your life, but themselves are also life, and also beautiful and part of that dynamic universe you are swimming in.
When mankind gets Q'ed into a higher state of being, exploring the great unknown and whatever wonders and horrors lie within it is going to be like diving into a coral reef and swimming with the morays and barracudas - extremely dangerous things that can end your life, but themselves are also life, and also beautiful and part of that dynamic universe you are swimming in.
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Re: RAR : Becoming a Q
The statement was :lordofchange13 wrote:Didn't the OP state we couldn't use our powers to kill things?
"You cannot use you powers to kill Q or harm him in any way."
Basically, it's just so you guys would focus on doing things, and not waste your time creatively rule-lawyering your way in order to get back to Q after your uplift.
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Anyway, RE : Concentration Camps for Eldritch Abomination :
Why would you do that ?
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Ok.Rabid wrote:The statement was :lordofchange13 wrote:Didn't the OP state we couldn't use our powers to kill things?
"You cannot use you powers to kill Q or harm him in any way."
Basically, it's just so you guys would focus on doing things, and not waste your time creatively rule-lawyering your way in order to get back to Q after your uplift.
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Anyway, RE : Concentration Camps for Eldritch Abomination :
Why would you do that ?
Why mess with the Abominations in the first place? Just teach humans on how to avoid them.
"There is no such thing as coincidence in this world - there is only inevitability"
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
Re: RAR : Becoming a Q
But shroom don't you see, we need to remove every possible danger from the world and turn the universe into a giant white-walled antiseptic hospital ward.
Isn't the whole point of cosmic horror that these things are so large that humans are as nothing in comparison? Forget barracudas and tiger sharks and coral reefs, a cosmic horror would be like a tidal wave, or an unpredicatable ocean current, or the flare of a sun. To say that you would remove such things is to say that you would remove supernovae from the universe. I mean by all means use your powers to prevent a direct devastating (world-destroying) collision with humanity, but why remove these things altogether?
Purple, your thesis reminds me of George Orwell's essay on Dickens: oh the current system has problems, if only people were nice to each other it would be fine - but not recognising that it is the system that is broken, not the people (though of course some are broken by the system..).
Isn't the whole point of cosmic horror that these things are so large that humans are as nothing in comparison? Forget barracudas and tiger sharks and coral reefs, a cosmic horror would be like a tidal wave, or an unpredicatable ocean current, or the flare of a sun. To say that you would remove such things is to say that you would remove supernovae from the universe. I mean by all means use your powers to prevent a direct devastating (world-destroying) collision with humanity, but why remove these things altogether?
Purple, your thesis reminds me of George Orwell's essay on Dickens: oh the current system has problems, if only people were nice to each other it would be fine - but not recognising that it is the system that is broken, not the people (though of course some are broken by the system..).
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Yeah, a cosmic horror would not just be a lone barracuda or just a single reef on a beach. It would be an abstract... thing... like "the ocean" in all its entirety, with all the barracudas, reefs, sharks, riptide currents and all those things - that individually we might understand and dissect, but when put together as a whole becomes something much more greater in total - and how all of it combined represents something greater and more magnificent than we. Like an abstract thing that, on one hand, can be so beautiful to swim in with all the wonders you can behold in it, but on the other hand can just turn around and murder you in all sorts of sucky and horrific kind of ways.
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Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
shroom is a lovely boy and i wont hear a bad word against him - LUSY-CHAN!
Shit! Man, I didn't think of that! It took Shroom to properly interpret the screams of dying people - PeZook
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Re: RAR : Becoming a Q
Almost like... Eywa! My god, the Na'vi are servants of a eldritch abomination! Now the actions of the RDA make sense, they were just trying to protect us from an incomprehensible cosmic horror!
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That plan is like the robots form Issac Asimov's stories: going out in space and killing EVERY SINGLE alien species as a way to protect Human beings
"There is no such thing as coincidence in this world - there is only inevitability"
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
Re: RAR : Becoming a Q
I do nothing.
Nothing spectacular at least. Humans are doing a pretty good job of improving their lot by themselves. Why fuck it up with divine intervention? I'll just lurk in the background and make sure that no stupid accidents or disasters wipe them out, or set them back significantly. Without them noticing anything out of ordinary, don't want to reinforce their sillier superstitions.
And if it's possible to do that without affecting my vigilance, (it probably is) I'll search the cosmos for other life-bearing planets, and extend my protective umbrella to them too. There's no reason to be a speciesist about my nigh-omnipotence.
All sentient species I find will be free to forge their own destiny, and unknowingly safe. Q will get bored. But fuck him, he's a dick.
Nothing spectacular at least. Humans are doing a pretty good job of improving their lot by themselves. Why fuck it up with divine intervention? I'll just lurk in the background and make sure that no stupid accidents or disasters wipe them out, or set them back significantly. Without them noticing anything out of ordinary, don't want to reinforce their sillier superstitions.
And if it's possible to do that without affecting my vigilance, (it probably is) I'll search the cosmos for other life-bearing planets, and extend my protective umbrella to them too. There's no reason to be a speciesist about my nigh-omnipotence.
All sentient species I find will be free to forge their own destiny, and unknowingly safe. Q will get bored. But fuck him, he's a dick.
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Who knows, maybe that is what Q is doing himself in giving you these powers.Shroom Man 777 wrote:Before one can administer, with his newfound powers of godhood, the vast and incomprehensible and magnificent on mere mortals as one was previously, one should also transcend the limitations of his own awareness too. If I'd become some sort of great deity in the vein of Q, I'd probably go on a bizarre trippy reality-altering spirit journey to expand my horizons - and perhaps this, sharing these divine alterations of the mind, could be the basis of the randome altarnate realty hippotheticel scenarieos I'd administer on people. Send them on space odysseys, let them touch giant black space rocks and go crazy and transmogrify into space fetuses after a psychadelic 5-dimensional acid trip through space and time. And see what the results are, on what this new, greater, expanded consciousness would be like.
Maybe it's recursive.
Whoa.
How do you define "eldritch," "abomination," "cosmic," "horror," "normal," and "sentient?"SpaceMarine93 wrote:Fine, remove only any Eldritch Abominations which shows a deliberate intention to cause harm to normal sentient beings. Set up rules make it abominably clear to the Eldritch Abominations and Cosmic Horrors to avoid harming less powerful sentient beings even if they are indifferent to them, or else. Put in place automated systems in universal functions or create an incorruptible police organization of cosmic entities to enforce rules.
And why uplift humanity to Cosmic Entities levels when you could let them find a way to do it for themselves?
You can't rely on TVTropes definitions when you're talking about campaigns of massive genocide and destruction of much of the complexity of the world you occupy. That would be incredibly childish and horrifyingly stupid.
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I'd implement SDN World and laugh.
I would fucking laugh.
I would fucking laugh.
JULY 20TH 1969 - The day the entire world was looking up
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
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It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.
- NEIL ARMSTRONG, MISSION COMMANDER, APOLLO 11
Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
MILDLY DERANGED PHYSICIST does not mind BREAKING the SOUND BARRIER, because it is INSURED. - Simon_Jester considering the problems of hypersonic flight for Team L.A.M.E.
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I’d get some better pens for the office; these ones they keep buying are terrible the nibs keep snapping off.
Oh I’m a god....
Make people practically immortal not aging once they reach their 30s (people already over this will age down to their 30s) whilst destroying all disease and genetic illness/disabilities and any infirmities caused by living forever. People would also have their metabolisms changed so that regardless of what you eat/exercise you stay relatively fit and normal shaped.
Then probably piss about letting key technologies develop like fusion which suddenly they figure out doesn’t need fuel after all and batteries with stupendously good charges that can be charged from happy thoughts.
Oh and Africa suddenly becomes a lot more fertile for growing stuff in its shit areas whilst I use a list of dictators/evil doers to drop pianos from low orbit.
Oh I’m a god....
Make people practically immortal not aging once they reach their 30s (people already over this will age down to their 30s) whilst destroying all disease and genetic illness/disabilities and any infirmities caused by living forever. People would also have their metabolisms changed so that regardless of what you eat/exercise you stay relatively fit and normal shaped.
Then probably piss about letting key technologies develop like fusion which suddenly they figure out doesn’t need fuel after all and batteries with stupendously good charges that can be charged from happy thoughts.
Oh and Africa suddenly becomes a lot more fertile for growing stuff in its shit areas whilst I use a list of dictators/evil doers to drop pianos from low orbit.
Get busy living or get busy dying... unless there’s cake.
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Darth Tanner are you going to alter Human sex drive/ likelihoods of pregnancy per session? If you make every factor that leads to human fatality's then there will be an explosion in population.
"There is no such thing as coincidence in this world - there is only inevitability"
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.
"I consider the Laws of Thermodynamics a loose guideline at best!"
"Set Flamethrowers to... light electrocution"
It's not enough to bash in heads, you also have to bash in minds.
Tired is the Roman wielding the Aquila.