New Robocop teaser

[Sidewinder]

And the lower part of his face?

From the description given in the 20th Anniversary Edition's director's commentary, OCP peeled off Murphy's face, and then stuck it on top of Robocop's body- the skin is the only thing that's not machine. It's not as vulnerable as it seems.

[lord Martiya]

I may be wrong, but hadn't been that skin identified as plastic shaped as Murphy's face in Robocop 2? I don't think they left exposed anything important, or Cain's gang would have been able to kill him.

[Sinanju]

In Robocop 2, Robocop flat-out tells Murphy's wife it's just Alex Murphy's skin on his face. They "put it there to honor him" or something like that. Of course, he was trying to assure her that he wasn't Murphy, so who knows if he was being honest or not.

[lord Martiya]

Better if I rewatch the scene...

[CaptainChewbacca]

In the first Robocop they talk about 'total body prosthesis', so I'm not sure what was left besides his brain.

[Crazedwraith]

The Face is pretty obviously Murhpy's actual face graphed on a robot head or some reason. You even see a small metal plug on his forehead where Boddicker's bullet went in. Check it

[KhorneFlakes]

I hate it because it's obviously trying to be a nanosuit >:(

Seriously, what is with all these nanosuit wannabes? There were barely any at first but they're gaining momentum. Not a lot, though.

[Lord Revan]

well it could be explained by wanting have hightech look without making the suit (the actor wears) be too restrictive, IIRC the orginal robocop suit was rather limited on what it could do also not robocop but the C-3PO suit was so restrictive that Anthony Daniels couldn't properly walk or sit down with it or get up from a sitting position in it and in ROTS they had to CGI C-3PO when they want him to walk down stairs.

That said it could just be nanotech wank that seems to refuse to die.

[Stark]

Because Robocop was a fucking car, and it's not the 80s anymore. Even if he DID look like a carw, cars look different these days.

[The Yosemite Bear]

they aren't even waiting for something to be old before remaking it...

ok who ever is reesponsible for this needs to be trapped in a crippled U-Boat with Wolfgang....

[Havok]

It's over 20 fucking years old Bear. That is pretty old when you are talking about movies.

[Zed Snardbody]

I may be wrong, but hadn't been that skin identified as plastic shaped as Murphy's face in Robocop 2? I don't think they left exposed anything important, or Cain's gang would have been able to kill him.

I thought they kept part of his digestive system hence the baby food from the intro scene when they move him into the precinct. So head and torso left maybe?

[Vendetta]

Because Robocop was a fucking car, and it's not the 80s anymore. Even if he DID look like a carw, cars look different these days.

Also, '80s movie thugs were pretty dumb, and all just stood there shooting at the pretty obviously bulletproof guy rather than, y'know, running away from his slow clompy ass.

[jollyreaper]

Link.

It doesn't say much, but I'm excited nonetheless.

Remember back in the day when people would create art and you could clearly see what they were inspired by and what they added to the experience?

T.S. Eliot:
One of the surest tests [of the superiority or inferiority of a poet] is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different than that from which it is torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no cohesion. A good poet will usually borrow from authors remote in time, or alien in language, or diverse in interest.

A straightforward reboot seldom brings anything to the table. I'm happy to be proven wrong but don't expect to be.

[RogueIce]

Also, '80s movie thugs were pretty dumb, and all just stood there shooting at the pretty obviously bulletproof guy rather than, y'know, running away from his slow clompy ass.

Well to be fair the SWAT team managed to fuck up Robocop pretty good using M-16s and shit and IIRC the bad guys had similar weapons, so I guess there just weren't enough of them.

I could be forgetting some SWAT grenade launchers, though. But then again the Detroit PD were like a bunch of lemmings over a cliff against "Robocop 2" so...

[Crazedwraith]

Wasn't he already pretty fucked up from ED-209's cannon and rockets at that point?

[Gandalf]

Yeah. That force also included OCP's own security forces (they're the ones dressed like the SS), so they may have had better weaponry than the thugs in the drug lab.

[Parallax]

The only biological parts left of Robocop were, IIRC, the brain and digestive system - and they probably left that in as the best means of supplying nutrients to the brain. We find out that Murphy's face is cold to the touch so there's little to no circulation happening to the 'skin'.
Though I always did wonder why Cain didn't decapitate Murphy in Robocop 2.


In the first movie, The ED-209 did some notable damage to Murphy. IIRC, there's considerable cracking to his chest plate and dents all over. I don't see it as a stretch that such damage would a) compromise his ability to take further damage b) affect the performance of other systems (I think we see that car headlights dazzle him, for instance).
In the fight with the SWAT team you also have to consider that apart from the damage he's already suffered, Murphy didn't want to fight back. He didn't want to shoot other cops, so the only available option was to try to disengage and get the hell out - which isn't easy when your walking speed seems permanently set in retarded tortoise mode.

Another possible difference between Drug Lab Thugs and SWAT members is training. Drug addicted goons generally don't have the best aim in the world and little to no teamwork skills, such as concentrating fire at a particular spot on the target or whatever. Whereas SWAT knows how to work as a team, concentrate fire and generally harass a bullet resistant target until it drops.

[PREDATOR490]

ED-209 caused pretty hefty damage to Robocop.

Cant find a clip of the SWAT team shooting him up but ED-209 would seem to be largely responsible for making him vulnerable to their damage.
Robocop 3 has a similar amount of enemies shooting at him to no effect until finally they use a grenade launcher.

As for Robocop shooting back - He had no choice.
He was made to drop his gun prior to ED-209 using him as a chew toy and the 4th directive kinda causes issues.
Although the 4th Directive isnt the same as that used in Robocop 3.


As for the new suit - White logo, Red stripes and black armor.
Just need the N7 logo and a surname change for Robocop cause that armor style would fit right in with Mass Effect.
Looks more like a guy in armor than an actual robot so I'm guessing they are going to go with the android or possibly augmented human like Deus Ex.

[Zed Snardbody]

Or since the SWAT team knew they were dealing with Robo they came loaded with AP or steel cored ammo versus the regular jacketed lead ammo that the rehabs would have been using.

In the first movie they show up with a light machine gun, shotguns, and assault riffles and a grenade launcher.

[Darth Lucifer]

Whoever they cast as Robo, they better get someone who can physically pull off the part. The last Robocop I saw, Prime Directives, had an actor who was shorter than Peter Weller. He did not look physically imposing like Robocop should be. Hell, I don't think the actor was over 6'. While he played a great Alex Murphy his Robocop was awful. Robocable, OTOH was awesome in every way.

Part of what made Robocop the awesome movie we know and love are the parodies of 1980's culture in the form of OCP's commercial breaks. They carried this tradition over in PD very well and I hope they do the same for the remake.

[someone_else]

ED-209 caused pretty hefty damage to Robocop.

Hey it's pretty good CGI for a 20+ yo movie. ED 209 moves pretty realistically for a bot.

[Sea Skimmer]

The ED-209 was all done with animation stop motion, not CGI. People made some amazing stop motion stuff back in the 1950s even, its really just a matter of how much money you are willing to spend on it.

As for damage, if you fire hundreds of rounds into thin metal armor, the metal heats up and will fail as it softens. That's likely what happened to Robocop, all the bullets heating plus earlier damage was starting to spall the inside of the armor. Also his armor was described as being partly kevlar, and kevlar inherently takes damage from anything but the weakest hits.

[Lord Revan]

I'm pretty sure they didn't use large scale CGI in films until Jurasic Park 6 years after Robocop and as Sea Skimmer said ED-209 was stopmotion (though I think they might have used an actual on-set robot for few shots).

[Stark]

Kids just don't know what practical effects look like. ED-209 has bad lighting and moves with no mass, I wouldn't even call it very good stop-motion. But nobody really minds.