Forerunners vs Imperium of Man (41st millenium)

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Re: Forerunners vs Imperium of Man (41st millenium)

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You have to understand the reason they did it. The Precursors were the holders of "The Mantle". It's a religion were they believe they need to look after the galaxy and protect it. They, for some reason declared those who were to take the mantle after them, and it wasn't the Forerunners, who believed they should receive it. It's suggested in the books that humans were supposed to receive it. The Forerunners didn't like this idea and attacked the Precursors, taking it for themselves, killing every precursor they could find. It's suggested that the first Gravemimd is actually the last precursor, attempting to get revenge for his fallen race (and possibly driven crazy).

@Skywalker, it's been a while since I read the books but I thought it didn't say for sure if they were precursors or created by the Precursors. Do know the Precursors definitely were involved and the last precursor became the first Gravemind.
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InsaneTD wrote:The Humans and Prophets (used to be allies according to the Forerunner books) managed to defeat the flood near the end. I'd say that the human empire of the time was far more advanced then the Forerunners as they were fighting two wars at the time and beating the Forerunners.
As I understand it, Humans benefited from access to Precursor tech, with their core base even being built onto a Precursor artifact. So the Forerunners were more advanced, but the Humans had a bootstrap for their tech.
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From what I can tell, the Forerunners are significantly more advanced than the Imperium of Man (the rapidly constructed Death Star-sized ships alone ought to show this).

The issues I'm having with credibility is that, the more incredible technological feats are ascribed to the Forerunners, the greater their apparent incompetence (regardless of the source being stupidity, inflexibility, etc), to have lost to the Flood.
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avatarxprime wrote:
InsaneTD wrote:The Humans and Prophets (used to be allies according to the Forerunner books) managed to defeat the flood near the end. I'd say that the human empire of the time was far more advanced then the Forerunners as they were fighting two wars at the time and beating the Forerunners.
As I understand it, Humans benefited from access to Precursor tech, with their core base even being built onto a Precursor artifact. So the Forerunners were more advanced, but the Humans had a bootstrap for their tech.
I'd have to check the books but I don't think they ever used Precursor tech. They did build on Precursor ruins, to the point of building structures off the side of Precursor buildings.
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Cykeisme wrote:From what I can tell, the Forerunners are significantly more advanced than the Imperium of Man (the rapidly constructed Death Star-sized ships alone ought to show this).

The issues I'm having with credibility is that, the more incredible technological feats are ascribed to the Forerunners, the greater their apparent incompetence (regardless of the source being stupidity, inflexibility, etc), to have lost to the Flood.
On the other hand the Gravemind that was running the Flood in their war against the Forerunners was smart and sophisticated enough to talk a forerunner AI into turning traitor. If this is accurate then the Flood were being run by a brilliant mind that controlled a galaxy wide menace. The advantages in planning and execution this would gain the Flood cannot be underestimated.
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Well the Graveminds are the brains of dozens of hosts that have been merged together. It should be the greatest mind the galaxy has ever seen. And the Graveminds do that to a couple forerunner AIs. Surprised it didn't manage to turn Cortana actually.
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