Deahbattle Vader vs Doctor Doom

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Re: Deahbattle Vader vs Doctor Doom

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Simon_Jester wrote:I honestly think Doom's armor will not prove lightsaber-proof, even granted that it can take individual blasts of raw blunt force trauma from, say, the Hulk. By analogy, half inch steel plates will do a good job resisting being beaten on by a gorilla, but they won't resist an acetylene torch very well.
Here Doom's armor soaks an 'atomic grenade' (he is unharmed on the next page):
http://i.imgur.com/vlXccY6.jpg

Here he tanks a shot from Thanos wielding the omnipotence granting Infinity Gauntlet. It obviously isn't a full power shot, but according to the narrator was intended to cause his 'total defeat and destruction':
http://i.imgur.com/zZq1LgU.jpg

Your guess is as good as mine as to how those compare to a lightsaber in power output, but they aren't blunt force punches.

That said, if Doom routinely carries on his person (at least does so when prepared for battle) weapons or magic capable of feats like trapping people in force field bubbles, throwing them backwards in time, and the like... yes, I'd say he has a good chance in this fight overall.
Here he uses the Crimson Bands to restrain Iron Man. This is essentially a magical force bubble:

http://i.imgur.com/wfqNvZd.jpg

Here Loki is trapped in stasis:

http://i.imgur.com/aPtlTK1.jpg

I can show you a zillion other time travel feats, including using time travel to bring his castle back from destruction, using time travel to learn new magic and prepare for combat, and using time travel as an offensive weapon and as an escape power. There are a ridiculous number of other goofy gadgets, like a 'molecular expander' in his glove that shoots dust particles that then expand into massive boulders. Hilariously, the vast majority of these are non-lethal, because comics. Would a 'tranquilizer ray' which stopped the Hulk work on Vader? Doom can always use his blasters as a coup de grace, if turning Darth Vader to stone or paralyzing him isn't considered lethal enough. Finally, one of Doom's gimmicks is stealing the powers of others, and he has done this to other sorcerers, Odin, Galactus, Franklin Richards, the Hulk, the Fantastic Four, and many others, and has even absorbed boring old sunlight and electricity. I would argue that this would likely work on the Force as well, but even if it doesn't, I suspect that having the power drained out of his cybernetics would cause Vader some inconvenience.
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Re: Deahbattle Vader vs Doctor Doom

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Vain wrote:
Simon_Jester wrote:I honestly think Doom's armor will not prove lightsaber-proof, even granted that it can take individual blasts of raw blunt force trauma from, say, the Hulk. By analogy, half inch steel plates will do a good job resisting being beaten on by a gorilla, but they won't resist an acetylene torch very well.
Here Doom's armor soaks an 'atomic grenade' (he is unharmed on the next page):
http://i.imgur.com/vlXccY6.jpg

...Your guess is as good as mine as to how those compare to a lightsaber in power output, but they aren't blunt force punches.
Hm. In the same page it also alludes to him having a force field capable of protecting him from weapons-grade lasers. Also, he jumped on that 'atomic grenade;' I'm impressed. That's a much better approximation of lightsaber intensity than most things would be.

[Seriously, Dr. Doom's character would be incomplete were it not for his occasional gestures that put the 'grand' in 'grandiose megalomania.']

Lightsabers are basically presented as the ultimate in cutting implements, in the literal sense of "there is nothing like it." I actually wouldn't be surprised if they can handle Doom's armor, at least on a lunge... but that's only because there are at most a handful of materials in the Star Wars universe that can resist a lightsaber. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if Doom's armor can at least notably impede lightsabers, especially if it has force field reinforcement.
That said, if Doom routinely carries on his person (at least does so when prepared for battle) weapons or magic capable of feats like trapping people in force field bubbles, throwing them backwards in time, and the like... yes, I'd say he has a good chance in this fight overall.
Here he uses the Crimson Bands to restrain Iron Man. This is essentially a magical force bubble: ...

Here Loki is trapped in stasis:...
Yeah. I haven't familiarized myself with his capabilities beyond what is needed to get a broad sense of his character. But I'm not surprised.
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Vain wrote:Here Loki is trapped in stasis:

http://i.imgur.com/aPtlTK1.jpg
<snrk> I actually started LOLing at that final line; "Doom will consider your request"... :roll:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd3esamc2Rs

Well this is how they saw it.
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Vader is doomed, because they consider high end wank Doom levels greater than high end wank Vader levels.
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Yeah as much as I would have liked Vader to win, the amount of wank in Doom's corner is just beyond belief. He should by all accounts rule the universe by now.
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Borgholio wrote:Spoiler
Yeah as much as I would have liked Vader to win, the amount of wank in Doom's corner is just beyond belief. He should by all accounts rule the universe by now.
He did, at least once, in a What If where he managed to seize the Infinity Gauntlet and wipe the floor with pretty much everybody. And then, of course, he hits the reset button because that's not how it's supposed to be (or something). Or he fades into the cosmos or whatever. It was a supremely written piece of cosmic wank.
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Borgholio wrote:Spoiler
Yeah as much as I would have liked Vader to win, the amount of wank in Doom's corner is just beyond belief. He should by all accounts rule the universe by now.
He has done. More than once.

However, infinite cosmic power is only worth having if Reed Richards knows how beaten he is.
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Well Doom is currently ruling the universe. Whats left of it that is.

The wank of some of these comic characters is nauseauting.
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Though I'm sure Squirrel Girl will be along momentarily to sort him out again.
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