Could this force take over the world of 1,950 years ago?

[Vendetta]

[And for communication, there are ways. For example, all educated Romans were fluent in Greek, and unlike the dead language Latin, greek is still spoken, so provided they took along a greek/english interpreter (which needn't be a professional interpretor - any Greek-American marine would do if he could speak his mother tounge) they'd be fine. Other empires such as China would be easy, the Chinese language has existed for thousands of years so as long as there are any Chinese-Americans among the marines or the crews of the ships (highly likely) there won't be a communications problem.

Unfortunately, both the greek and cinese languages have changed radically over the past 2000 years.

Classical Greek and modern greek are two different languages, and dialects in modern Chinese almost as radically different as different languages. (Mandarin and Cantonese might be written the same, but spoken COMPLETELY differently,)

[Sea Skimmer]

Ah yes. Another good old
'our modern weaponz are soo strong we will kick yer sorry asses'
masturbation thread.

Montana's vs. Grand Fleet June 1916 one..

Could you describe what that was about a bit more precise?

It sprang up on warships1 about three years ago, and shows back up about every six months in some form.

Basically it’s the four never built Montana class battleships in there full 1945 radar fit appears in front of the British Grand fleet sailing on its way to fight Jutland. They fight.

Now it quickly got pointed out that all things being equal, the Montana don’t have enough ammunition for the job. So it got changed to four Montana's with unlimited ammunition and barrel life and crews who don’t need sleep vs. the Grand Fleet.

A 50-500 post flame war generally follows.

[Sea Skimmer]

As you should be aware many cities are not within Broadside range.
This is rather stupid, and frankly annoying. The range of those ships is not sufficent to go aroundthe world from their oil rig.

also how are they going to communicate with your stated canversation?

Radio?

The Iowa can steam 20,000 miles at 12 knots, the Wasp around 8000 IIRC, with one tanker along they can easily reach and return from any point on the earths oceans with ease, several times over, before needing to return to the drilling rig.

[Cpt_Frank]

Basically it’s the four never built Montana class battleships in there full 1945 radar fit appears in front of the British Grand fleet sailing on its way to fight Jutland. They fight.

Now it quickly got pointed out that all things being equal, the Montana don’t have enough ammunition for the job. So it got changed to four Montana's with unlimited ammunition and barrel life and crews who don’t need sleep vs. the Grand Fleet.

Pretty stupid. Though it's a fact british battleships at that time blew up when one of their magazines was hit and the unstable cordite ignited the shells.

[Sea Skimmer]

Basically it’s the four never built Montana class battleships in there full 1945 radar fit appears in front of the British Grand fleet sailing on its way to fight Jutland. They fight.

Now it quickly got pointed out that all things being equal, the Montana don’t have enough ammunition for the job. So it got changed to four Montana's with unlimited ammunition and barrel life and crews who don’t need sleep vs. the Grand Fleet.

Pretty stupid. Though it's a fact british battleships at that time blew up when one of their magazines was hit and the unstable cordite ignited the shells.

Battlecruisers actually, and in all cases it was really chance hits, other battlecruisers and the QE fast battleships took twice the damage of any ship that blew up and did not suffer any magazine explosions.

Any battleship of the time, and any other time, would almost certainly explode from a direct magazine hit. The problem with British ships was poor flash protection, that allowed hits on the turrets and barbettes to reach the magazines, with proper flash doors the unstable cordite would be a non-factor.

German ships mind you, also had poor flash protection before the Dogger bank, and even there better charges were still quite venerable to explosions, witness Pommeran, what saved them was better flooding arrangements.

Shells are not really a factor in magazine explosions, by the time the blast gets enough power to set them off, the ships sides are already being blown out and the turret above is going into LEO. The charges have far more explosive force.

As for the scenario, people soon realized that since the Montana can outrun 75% of the destroyers and near every cruiser in the battle, with unlimited ammo they don’t stand much of a chance. As a result the most recent thread had the Montana's appearing only 8000 yards for the Grand fleet Van. Anyway the flame wars tend to be over other topics that aren't really directly related, or if some one claims the HSF would do better.

[NecronLord]

As you should be aware many cities are not within Broadside range.
This is rather stupid, and frankly annoying. The range of those ships is not sufficent to go aroundthe world from their oil rig.

also how are they going to communicate with your stated canversation?

Radio?

The Iowa can steam 20,000 miles at 12 knots, the Wasp around 8000 IIRC, with one tanker along they can easily reach and return from any point on the earths oceans with ease, several times over, before needing to return to the drilling rig.

One tanker needs to remain on station at the rig at all times, the other has to supply a fleet long enough for it to subjugate the world!, even modern troops cannot garrison an entire country with less than a company per country. Think of the end of Stargate the film here.

[NecronLord]

The same thing with the emperor of China, etc...

Video the surrender, then set up televisions or large screen/projector setups in public places in the city and show the surrender ceremony. The citizenry will probably be more captivated by the amazing picture that moves and has sound than by what's actually being shown on it.

Reinforce this by printing out thousands of leaflets in the local language and then airdropping them over the cities. These leaflets will be basic information about the change of government and how the American forces are now in charge.

They'd shout heresy and throw rocks at the TV's or run and hide thinking it would steal their souls,

Most people can't read

You are thinking about this in a modern way.

How are you going to do this with the Mongols, the vandals, goths visigoths hun, some celts, aztecs, maya, toltecs, soiux, apache, other first american tribes, tribes in central africa?

also, where is the printing press and tv plant for this?

[NecronLord]

About 70% of the world's population today lives within range of a battleship's guns. The proportion back then would likely be similar.

The vast majority of the world's great cities, both now and then, are either on the coast, or on large rivers capable of handling ships.

Go and learn about the idustrial revolution, after that look up nomadic in a dictionary, and then find out how many more nomads there were in A.D.52