Renewed_Valour1 wrote:Then the simple question is why didn't the pilot in the movie happen to say that they were out of ordnance? Better yet why didn't they order the pilot to engage with the compound lasers? Not exactly like the two of them were ever told they were out of ammunition.
The fact that they didn't bother shooting at them with ANY kind of weapon makes that kind of obvious. Is it that incomprehensible that they might have already known their guns were dry, and that they had previously been told so offscreen?
It still comes down to trying to engage with a line of sight weapon against someone who is over the horizon.
That is a clear advantage of modern artillery. I would point out, however, that the SHIELDED close-air support provided by the Republic gunships is something that no soldier or pilot has ever encountered in the history of this planet, and the firepower of their artillery is far greater than any form of artillery in use today, even though the line-of-sight limitation is indeed a weakness.
PS. On the Dale Brown stuff: you can't title a thread "modern forces" and then introduce hopeless sci-fi technomasturbatory toys whose scientific realism is literally worse than Star Trek.
For a time, I considered sparing your wretched little planet Cybertron.
But now, you shall witnesss ... its dismemberment! "This is what happens when you use trivia napkins for research material"- Sea Skimmer on "Pearl Harbour".
"Do you work out? Your hands are so strong! Especially the right one!"- spoken to Bud Bundy
Look carefully at the scene where Padme et als LAAT is being chased... Notice how the geonosian fighter blasts seem to "puff" into a ball of smoke and flame about 1 m away from the hull?
This means one of two things... 1) They were flak bursting, which would be rather pointless seeing as they had been told to shoot it down. 2) the LAAT had shields that was shrugging of numerous KT range impacts.
Moving back to modern forces which could and will exist..
Would a laser with a 100-kilowatt output be effective against Storm/Clone trooper armor?
Soon such will be a reaility of modern air power.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
Vympel wrote:I stick by my Dale Brown=merciless technowank statement ... all his books are solely based around his embarassing masturbatory fantasizing about modern weapons so fantastically overdone how could it be called anything but technowank. Hell its SUPER TECHNOWANK. Not to mention his books suck- honestly how long has his Mclannawhatever character been kicking around- he's a regular renaissance man- he does everything!
.
Not all of his stuff is technowank really...
The anti-tank cluster munitons with self-forging shrapnel warheads are actually possible, as is most of the stuff he writes..its just that in his world, the entire military budget of the world is directed into the American Dreamland/hawc stuff..
Sea Skimmer wrote:Moving back to modern forces which could and will exist..
Would a laser with a 100-kilowatt output be effective against Storm/Clone trooper armor?
What's the dwell time?
Soon such will be a reaility of modern air power.
Aircraft should be able to take down clonetroopers without new weapons technology. Small-arms fire from ordinary soldiers carrying M-16's will not. A grunt would need a LAW or something like that to take down a clonetrooper.
"It's not evil for God to do it. Or for someone to do it at God's command."- Jonathan Boyd on baby-killing
"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
Wouldn't the recoil be somewhat too powerful for the weapon to be used as a small arm?
Well tecnhiacly Pablo you COULD fire it once
"A cult is a religion with no political power." -Tom Wolfe Pardon me for sounding like a dick, but I'm playing the tiniest violin in the world right now-Dalton
Sea Skimmer wrote:Moving back to modern forces which could and will exist..
Would a laser with a 100-kilowatt output be effective against Storm/Clone trooper armor?
What's the dwell time?
Soon such will be a reaility of modern air power.
Aircraft should be able to take down clonetroopers without new weapons technology. Small-arms fire from ordinary soldiers carrying M-16's will not. A grunt would need a LAW or something like that to take down a clonetrooper.
IIRC, the laser in question will be able to fire for a full minute before needing a cool down. Mount limitations make much longer fire impossibul against a single target anyway.
Course iron bombs and cluster muntion should easily kill clonetropers, but which is cooler? [1] An F-16 making a shallow dive to release Mk.82's, or [2] a F-35 retaining its full steath making a level pass at 540 knots firing a invisabul beam of death?
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
Darth Wong wrote:*cough cough* small-arms firing 1lb depleted uranium slugs at 3000 km/s *cough* realism *gag choke*
Wouldn't the recoil be somewhat too powerful for the weapon to be used as a small arm?
On another board someone calculated that it should propel the user backwards at about 70mph. He assumed 400 gram round and mach 10 speed IIRC.
Brown seems to think that having another electro magnet on the back of the gun would balance it out though..
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Wouldn't the recoil be somewhat too powerful for the weapon to be used as a small arm?
On another board someone calculated that it should propel the user backwards at about 70mph. He assumed 400 gram round and mach 10 speed IIRC.
Brown seems to think that having another electro magnet on the back of the gun would balance it out though..
I doubt it would propel the user anywhere, its possible parts of the user might come along for the ride though..
Since the users are in a form of power armor, which seems to protect against physics as well as bullets, they might be able to hang on the for ride.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
Brown seems to think that having another electro magnet on the back of the gun would balance it out though..
[/quote]Someone put that guy out of his misery ...[/quote]
Creat the gun he describes
Then offer to let him shoot it
"A cult is a religion with no political power." -Tom Wolfe Pardon me for sounding like a dick, but I'm playing the tiniest violin in the world right now-Dalton
Conservation of Momentum can be circumvented by electromagnets, eh? Well, why not just place powerful electromagnets on tanks, so that they instantly "disappear" the momentum of APFSDS rounds in flight, stopping them dead without the tank being any the worse for wear?
"I am gravely disappointed. Again you have made me unleash my dogs of war."
--The Lord Humungus
Sea Skimmer wrote:IIRC, the laser in question will be able to fire for a full minute before needing a cool down. Mount limitations make much longer fire impossibul against a single target anyway.
Are you sure? I thought it was a 4s fire, 4s wait, 4s fire, 30s cool cycle.
Sea Skimmer wrote:IIRC, the laser in question will be able to fire for a full minute before needing a cool down. Mount limitations make much longer fire impossibul against a single target anyway.
Are you sure? I thought it was a 4s fire, 4s wait, 4s fire, 30s cool cycle.
Going back to the artical I was reading.. A 60 seconds seems to be the total amount of time it is expected to be fired on a single mission. Don't know how I screwed that one up..
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
