nBSG: S2:03: "Fragged" (Spoilers)

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-07-29 10:28pm

He most likely resigned. And the Colonial forces appear to have something like a GI bill, considering Cally joined up to pay for dentist school.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-07-29 10:45pm

OH FUCK!!!!!!!!

BALTAR JUST FUCKING KILLED CRASHDOWN!

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2005-07-29 10:49pm

Once again, Baltar, under the influence of Six, saved the day. Interesting.

That final scene......Saving Private Ryan

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-07-29 10:50pm

Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:Once again, Baltar, under the influence of Six, saved the day. Interesting.

That final scene......Saving Private Ryan

Oh, yeah.

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2005-07-29 11:00pm

Agent Fisher wrote:
Grand Moff Yenchin wrote: That final scene......Saving Private Ryan
Oh, yeah.

But I like the feeling that it was not so rip-offed.

It was also good that they didn't force in the Caprica plot.

Now not only the Prez is a fundie who has no sense of State and Church, the whole Quorum also seems so.

I'm looking foward to the Grand Wake Up of Adama (whenever that episode is).

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-07-29 11:02pm

Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:
Grand Moff Yenchin wrote: That final scene......Saving Private Ryan
Oh, yeah.
But I like the feeling that it was not so rip-offed.

It was also good that they didn't force in the Caprica plot.

Now not only the Prez is a fundie who has no sense of State and Church, the whole Quorum also seems so.

I'm looking foward to the Grand Wake Up of Adama (whenever that episode is).

Well, they didnt have our founding fathers. But oh well. Anyway, looks like things are quickly going to be going "OH SHIT!" alot.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2005-07-29 11:04pm

Would be nice to get the military members impression of the conflict between the Chief, Crashdown, and how it almost came to head.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2005-07-29 11:05pm

In my opinion, that was a very good episode. Mostly the last 15 minutes, but still, awesome in my book.

I really look forward to next week.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2005-07-29 11:08pm

Well, I made an observation. The crew on Kobol are using the Season two sidearm instead of the Season one rocket shooter pistol.

Skylon · Post by **Skylon** » 2005-07-29 11:14pm

Well, things are even more fraked up now. Looks like Tigh reached his breaking point in between episodes.

I guess the Cylon virus was successfully purged from Galactica's mainframe.

Was kinda spoiled about Crashdown's death, but I didn't expect Baltar to be the one to pull the trigger.

The Cylons seem to be going quite a ways to convince him killing is all humans do. He didn't seem totally sold on the idea.

No Galactica Boomer in two episodes.

Interesting that Zarek came to Roslin's defense, suggesting the Quorum member from Geminon verify the prophecy.

A nice little moment was when Duella made the "drunk" hand gesture to Gaeta in reference to Tigh's state.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-07-29 11:23pm

Skylon wrote:A nice little moment was when Duella made the "drunk" hand gesture to Gaeta in reference to Tigh's state.

Billy and Apollo were funny when Tigh asked them why they weren't in the brig.

Billy: "Because nobody put me there."

Thag · Post by **Thag** » 2005-07-30 12:10am

This could be interesting on the political side in the next few episodes, seeing as Tigh's actions seem to be pushing Zarek and Roslin into the same corner.

Deathstalker · Post by **Deathstalker** » 2005-07-30 12:57am

Alyeska wrote:Would be nice to get the military members impression of the conflict between the Chief, Crashdown, and how it almost came to head.

I thought they did a very good job. The Chief had a disagreement with the LT., and instead of airing it in front of everyone, they took it to the side. When Baltar mouthed off about the plan, the Chief told him to suck it up and STFU! Despite what the Chief thought about the Lt., the Chief did his job as an NCO. I believe this is the first time in any Scifi media, perhaps in any media, that I have seen an Op order actually used. It was worded slightly different, but it was there. They even built a sandtable. Callie lost some cool points by breaking downand refusing to fight, but at the end of the day she is a REMF and it is actually refreshing to see the what can happen to person faced with the stress of combat. She did alright dealing with the ambush of her, the Chief and the redshirt, I mean other crewman

, but broke down when she had time to think about it. The only beef I had was Crash pulling a gun on Callie, I think it could have been handled differently. If Moore doesn't have a military consultant, he is faking it pretty well.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-07-30 02:03am

Wow, I dont think I have ever seen a show were even semi-major characters die off so quickly.

A very good episode IMO. Yeah, Tigh is really lossing it, and his wife really is a coniving snake, it'll be interesting to see how Adama pulls the situation together when he wakes up. I thought the music in this episode was especially good, like the bit after martial law was declared.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-07-30 02:04am

Deathstalker wrote:
Alyeska wrote:Would be nice to get the military members impression of the conflict between the Chief, Crashdown, and how it almost came to head.
I thought they did a very good job. The Chief had a disagreement with the LT., and instead of airing it in front of everyone, they took it to the side. When Baltar mouthed off about the plan, the Chief told him to suck it up and STFU! Despite what the Chief thought about the Lt., the Chief did his job as an NCO. I believe this is the first time in any Scifi media, perhaps in any media, that I have seen an Op order actually used. It was worded slightly different, but it was there. They even built a sandtable. Callie lost some cool points by breaking downand refusing to fight, but at the end of the day she is a REMF and it is actually refreshing to see the what can happen to person faced with the stress of combat. She did alright dealing with the ambush of her, the Chief and the redshirt, I mean other crewman , but broke down when she had time to think about it. The only beef I had was Crash pulling a gun on Callie, I think it could have been handled differently. If Moore doesn't have a military consultant, he is faking it pretty well.

Well, my explaination. The chief is just /awesome/. My fangirl senses are going way off the charts for him. The writing of the show's just tense enough that when you see Baltar shoot Crashdown, it actually matters despite the fact that a minor character bought it. And Cally's breakdown was quite believable and I loved it. And to a lesser extent... her. Wait. I'm confused now. BSG... too good... clouding brain?

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2005-07-30 02:16am

I've been out of the loop. But what is this child that Baltar's supposed to father?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-07-30 02:20am

Thoughts

Best episode of the new season thus far. We get:

* Saving Private Ryan: The Galactica Edition. The writing was excellent; I was convinced that they were going to kill off Chief.

* Exactly why there needs to be a sep. of church and state in any government.

* Baltar's continued development is well-earned for BSG's most fascinating character.

* No Caprica subplot.

Either way, things are looking very interesting, especially if next weel's preview is any indication.

5/5

TimothyC · Post by **TimothyC** » 2005-07-30 02:23am

Can it get any better than this?

It's got action (Cobol), Political Intrigue (Tigh v. Quarum of 12), and Real science (Making the AA Missiles Beam-riders).

5/5.

Macross · Post by **Macross** » 2005-07-30 02:24am

I dont blame Callie for refusing to fight. Considering that it was her job to run and draw the fire of the three, then five Cyclons. Especially when there was a far less risky option available (the dish).

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-07-30 02:32am

MariusRoi wrote:

Can it get any better than this?

It's got action (Cobol), Political Intrigue (Tigh v. Quarum of 12), and Real science (Making the AA Missiles Beam-riders).

5/5.

Kobal, damn it!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-07-30 02:33am

Bah, I make a typo in my haste. Kobol, damn it.

TimothyC · Post by **TimothyC** » 2005-07-30 02:41am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Bah, I make a typo in my haste. Kobol, damn it.

Gah. I'm sorry.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-07-30 04:11am

I know I always feel more confident in an elected official once I've seen him frag someone.

I think Zarek went along with/supported the President because he'd rather have her than martial law. He can't find any leverage against the military bureaucracy, but he's in the Quorom.

Darth Lucifer · Post by **Darth Lucifer** » 2005-07-30 05:37am

Trytostaydead wrote:I've been out of the loop. But what is this child that Baltar's supposed to father?

My theory is that Caprica-Boomer (who told Helo she's pregnant) will be the mother and she'll take Starbuck's raider to Kobol and deliver the baby there for Baltar as part of the Cylon "Plan"

Second possibility: Baltar and Six were also doing the horizontal shuffle as well. She could be the mom for all we know.

Steven Snyder · Post by **Steven Snyder** » 2005-07-30 08:59am

A point for Baltar...

He is many things, but having the balls to shoot Crashdown...I didn't expect that of him. Speaking of Crashdown, he was a fraking idiot and I am glad to see him properly ventilated.

Aside for Tarn, the other two deaths on Kobol weren't exactly Redshirts. Crashdown was on those missions with Boomer and Sconius (sic?) was the guy who took the fall for Tyrol. So while they weren't major characters, they had been with the series and weren't introduced during the 'breamdown'.

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