nBSG - New Episode

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-01-12 05:11pm

LadyTevar wrote:
Trytostaydead wrote:Now that we know a Resurrection Ship is following the fleet, what happened to the "spirit" of the Boomer that died on the Galactica? Was her soul transferred back and what will happen then when a new body she inhabits confronts the Chief?
Shes' on the Resurrection ship now, I believe. Wasn't that her in the episode with Lucy Lawless?

It's confusing, because Galactica!Boomer had died clearly, but yet Caprica!Boomer had her memories. So it could be either, original boomer is on the rezzy ship, or she's Caprica!Boomer's roommate in her head.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2006-01-12 05:46pm

StarshipTitanic wrote: We haven't seen Roslin give Cain any orders because Roslin doesn't touch the military. Roslin essentially ceded all military affairs to Adama, who in turn ceded them to Cain upon her arrival.

She didn't cede them so of her own volition; she was just unwilling to push Adama who made it clear he wouldn't allow her those powers.

However the situation isn't so clear anymore, Roslin did order Starbuck on a mission and both have since been forgiven for it.

As for Cain not being given any orders, she wouldn’t take the President’s calls which indicates less than the proper respect.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2006-01-12 05:53pm

Nephtys wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:
Trytostaydead wrote:Now that we know a Resurrection Ship is following the fleet, what happened to the "spirit" of the Boomer that died on the Galactica? Was her soul transferred back and what will happen then when a new body she inhabits confronts the Chief?
Shes' on the Resurrection ship now, I believe. Wasn't that her in the episode with Lucy Lawless?
It's confusing, because Galactica!Boomer had died clearly, but yet Caprica!Boomer had her memories. So it could be either, original boomer is on the rezzy ship, or she's Caprica!Boomer's roommate in her head.

My memories fuzzy, but I seem to recall Caprica Boomer only had memories up to a certain point. I think they're all the same model, but different "souls" though every so often they exchange memories.

Just like the captured six has no feeling for Baltar, not to mention the six in his head didn't know humans did this to one of her.

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2006-01-12 06:04pm

Baltar's head six doesn't really count. She's a special case. We don't know if she's a cylon chip, a figment of Baltar's psychosis, a messenger from god, etc.

She seems to work against a lot of the over Cylon plans, so that's kinda odd.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2006-01-12 06:11pm

Nephtys wrote:Baltar's head six doesn't really count. She's a special case. We don't know if she's a cylon chip, a figment of Baltar's psychosis, a messenger from god, etc.

She seems to work against a lot of the over Cylon plans, so that's kinda odd.

I'm not sure if she is working against the Cylons. She's definitely helping out the humans at times, but that may be because the right hand and left hand don't know what they're doing, only the "God" does (wouldn't it be funny if Adama was "God"). It seems like the Six in Baltar's head is there as a kind of guide for Baltar, she keeps telling him that the Cylons have something very special planned for him and the baby, so it might be in their best reason for whatever reason to keep them alive and have the attacks seem very genuine?

Skylon · Post by **Skylon** » 2006-01-12 10:26pm

You know, this means that the Leoben copy from "Flesh and Bone" that Starbuck interrogated did likely end up getting reborn in another body.

Begs the question, was he also faking his worry of dying as well? Or was the Resurrection Ship something not deployed right away?

Wonder if we'll hear from that specific one again?

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2006-01-12 10:41pm

TheDarkling wrote:
StarshipTitanic wrote: We haven't seen Roslin give Cain any orders because Roslin doesn't touch the military. Roslin essentially ceded all military affairs to Adama, who in turn ceded them to Cain upon her arrival.
She didn't cede them so of her own volition; she was just unwilling to push Adama who made it clear he wouldn't allow her those powers.

However the situation isn't so clear anymore, Roslin did order Starbuck on a mission and both have since been forgiven for it.

As for Cain not being given any orders, she wouldn’t take the President’s calls which indicates less than the proper respect.

Actualy I'm sure that in the miniseries Adama and Roslin agreed that he would retain all decisions over military matters, she would handle all civilian matters. Which was why he demanded her resignation in Kobal's Last Gleaming 1. Because she bypassed him and gave orders to Starbuck, not to mention lost them a valuable Raider.

Calrissian · Post by **Calrissian** » 2006-01-13 11:15am

I am certainly looking forward to tonight

, although I'm not expecting anything in terms of resolution.

There is still great uncertainty...although I'd expect Pegasus to end up going off on its own back to the homeworlds to help survivors - which is a shame. No reason why they couldn't have Pegasus be part of the fleet...and help them on their way to Earth.

Maybe...even if Pegasus does go back...no reason why it couldn't jump back eventually... to catch back up. Hmm...just how far back is Caprica?

Anyway...something to look forward to

Darth Sephiroth · Post by **Darth Sephiroth** » 2006-01-13 02:58pm

Skylon wrote:You know, this means that the Leoben copy from "Flesh and Bone" that Starbuck interrogated did likely end up getting reborn in another body.

Begs the question, was he also faking his worry of dying as well? Or was the Resurrection Ship something not deployed right away?

Wonder if we'll hear from that specific one again?

It could be that the human cylons still feel the pain of dying and perhaps there is something involved in the transfer that isn't very plesant, or even that it makes some changes to bring them back in line with the rest of the cylons...

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2006-01-13 04:38pm

LadyTevar wrote:Shes' on the Resurrection ship now, I believe. Wasn't that her in the episode with Lucy Lawless?

No, it was another Boomer. They were watching the newscast in a Colonial theater.

The Darkling wrote:She didn't cede them so of her own volition; she was just unwilling to push Adama who made it clear he wouldn't allow her those powers.

However the situation isn't so clear anymore, Roslin did order Starbuck on a mission and both have since been forgiven for it.

She did cede them, and the situation surrounding Starbuck was a breech of that agreement.

Nephtys wrote:Baltar's head six doesn't really count. She's a special case. We don't know if she's a cylon chip, a figment of Baltar's psychosis, a messenger from god, etc.

She seems to work against a lot of the over Cylon plans, so that's kinda odd.

We do know she isn't a chip. Baltar had his head scanned.

Son of the Suns · Post by **Son of the Suns** » 2006-01-13 06:02pm

Ok, it seems for the last part of the espisode I'm stuck somewhere that doesn't have sci-fi channel, and I need details people!

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2006-01-13 06:50pm

Son of the Suns wrote:Ok, it seems for the last part of the espisode I'm stuck somewhere that doesn't have sci-fi channel, and I need details people!

One of the early pages had the synopsy, David.

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2006-01-13 07:07pm

I think he means for tonight.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2006-01-13 09:23pm

Lonestar wrote:I think he means for tonight.

Then see the new thread I've started

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2006-01-13 09:54pm

While the idea of locking up Cain may be the "moral" choice, it's not the practical one. Whose going to arrest her, and on what charge? Who's going to try and convict her? I doubt you can find a jury that would consider convicting her for what happened to the Cylon on the Pegasus, considering what happened to the Colonies, and that sadly, Cylons aren't seen as people by the Colonials. Also, if they somehow manage to put Cain away, what's to stop someone from the Pegasus who likes how things were with Cain in charge from attacking the Galactica to rescue Cain? They have a way better chance of winning a fight with the Galactica than Adama had of winning against the Pegasus. Cain's a fucking lunatic, and she needs to die before she sacrifices the rest of humanity on the altar of her wish for some sort of Armageddon with the Cylons.

As for Roslin, without Adama, she's really a paper tiger and Cain knows it. That's why Roslin advocates doing her in. She and Cain know full well that Cain's going to drop everyone who would back Roslin up, including Apollo and probably even Starbuck. After that, she's going to go after the government, starting with Roslin. Then, Cain will do to the Galactica's fleet what she did her own and take both Battlestars back to fight the Cylons, which will end in their doom. Without protection, the fleet is easy pickings for the Cylons.