Aliens vs Predator 2: Requiem trailer

[Invictus ChiKen]

Hmmm okay if this is as good as the trailer I shall forgive them for AvsP I

[PREDATOR490]

While i shall reserve final judgement until i see it, i like what i see so far. Personally i wonder how the Preds will respond to this scenario. They are not on a hunt, they are stuck on a planet populated with sapients that have machines that while primitive, can take them out as well as Xenos. I wonder how this will go.

Zor

Supposedly trained Predators and not the lone wolf sport hunters you get in AVP or the Predator movies which should mean these Predators will bring out the full arsenal of weapons and skills they have.

With humans running around using Predator scavanged weapons I'm rather looking foward and dreading this movie because it has the potential to really fuck up Predator capabilities and perception. I would rather not have them reduced to idiots like the Borg.

I would expect the Predators to see this situation as a great chance for making trophies and proving their skill in a three way battle. Although from the trailer it looks like the Predators are gonna be doing a massive amount of slaughtering.

[CaptainChewbacca]

I kinda hope at some point the Preds will realize it is in their interests to work WITH the humans to wipe out the xenos, and we get some good badassery.

I also want to see a human steal a Pred cloak.

[Molyneux]

I kinda hope at some point the Preds will realize it is in their interests to work WITH the humans to wipe out the xenos, and we get some good badassery.

I also want to see a human steal a Pred cloak.

The only place the Predators have ever been smart enough to realise that was in the AvP arcade game. The one with the ninja marine girl and cybernetic Arnie-lookalike.

[Rye]

I kinda hope at some point the Preds will realize it is in their interests to work WITH the humans to wipe out the xenos, and we get some good badassery.

I also want to see a human steal a Pred cloak.

The only place the Predators have ever been smart enough to realise that was in the AvP arcade game. The one with the ninja marine girl and cybernetic Arnie-lookalike.

And the comics. And the books. And the first AvP movie.

[Molyneux]

I kinda hope at some point the Preds will realize it is in their interests to work WITH the humans to wipe out the xenos, and we get some good badassery.

I also want to see a human steal a Pred cloak.

The only place the Predators have ever been smart enough to realise that was in the AvP arcade game. The one with the ninja marine girl and cybernetic Arnie-lookalike.

And the comics. And the books. And the first AvP movie.

Never read the comics or the books...and sorry if I wasn't being clear - I meant Preds working with humans without randomly killing them for most of the movie first.

[Rye]

That's fucking retarded, though. Predators hunt humans. That's how they're introduced to us in the first place. It'd be like Jason teaming up with the nubile teenagers to fight Freddy; totally against their established characters and incredibly lame.

[SylasGaunt]

Essentially it never happens anywhere outside extreme circumstances that require strange and unusual practices to handle.. i.e. the outbreak gets out of hand, last survivors, etc.

[DPDarkPrimus]

The only times where the Predators have teamed up with humans is where they are grossly outnumbered by the xenomorphs and it's apparent none of them are probably going to make it out anyway.

[TheFeniX]

I'm really interested what happened at 1:02. I think its a pred alien thats stealthed or something which dosent really make sense. Predators get their stealth from technology so an alien shouldnt have that ability unless these things are intelligent enough to use Predator tools. Unless we end up with Face huggers grabbing animals while in the forest.

It's stupid, but it has precedent. In AVP2, you fight a PredAlien that can cloak... for some odd reason.

I hope they explain why the predator in the trailer kills that unarmed girl. We have three movies establishing that Predators just don't kill unarmed humans, and seem to take even more precautions against children and women.

If he missed, she was infected, or had become a threat in some way, fine. I'm just more likely to suspect they'll end up not even bothering with any explanation other than "Predators are bad, *I'm a smarmy asshole*."

[Zor]

That's fucking retarded, though. Predators hunt humans. That's how they're introduced to us in the first place. It'd be like Jason teaming up with the nubile teenagers to fight Freddy; totally against their established characters and incredibly lame.

Yes, but it is clear that they are NOT FUCKING HUNTING in this scenario. They crash landed onto a planet with Xenos and armed hunters, defending the crash site i can understand, but not going out of their way to kill people that don't aproach the crash site just for the sake of hunting. If they go out on a pointless hunt, they are behaving like fucking morons.

Zor

[Molyneux]

That's fucking retarded, though. Predators hunt humans. That's how they're introduced to us in the first place. It'd be like Jason teaming up with the nubile teenagers to fight Freddy; totally against their established characters and incredibly lame.

Predators hunt prey. At least one human has proven himself to them to be on their 'level', and was thereby off-limits. (That's what I took away from Predator 2, anyhow.)

[PREDATOR490]

The girl that gets hit with the disc isnt unarmed from what I have been told. She has a weapon in her hand and as soon as that happens your a walking target for a Predator.
Although I have to say the scene is still a bit disturbing from the speed of the kill. It looked like she just turned the corner and got whacked which leads me to believe the Predators are not hunting. This is them essentially going all out killing anything thats a threat.

Its either that or the lady and group were up to or did something to make the Predators decide killing is more effective. I wouldnt be too surprised since they were running into what looked like the beginnings of a alien hive.

Of course there is always the possibility that the Predator fucked up and did it accidentally which isnt too unlikely considering there is going to be armed soldiers, xenos, predaliens and infected humans running around. A group of humans running into a Xeno hive is likely to be armed or they are just food so the Predator just decides to save himself the trouble later on hehe.

The other possibility is the Predators get pissed off with the amount of interference and the death of comrades at the hands of humans so they just decide to drop the hunting honour crap. Its obvious they are working against the clock to stop the Xeno infection while the human military is slowly grinding towards bombing the place for containment so wasting time to stop and chat wouldnt be high on their agenda.

[Rye]

That's fucking retarded, though. Predators hunt humans. That's how they're introduced to us in the first place. It'd be like Jason teaming up with the nubile teenagers to fight Freddy; totally against their established characters and incredibly lame.

Yes, but it is clear that they are NOT FUCKING HUNTING in this scenario. They crash landed onto a planet with Xenos and armed hunters, defending the crash site i can understand, but not going out of their way to kill people that don't aproach the crash site just for the sake of hunting. If they go out on a pointless hunt, they are behaving like fucking morons.

Zor

Oh really? Where is this made clear? I didn't see one predator ship on the ground in the trailer. There's a fireball in the sky which in all likelihood is either a predator pod or the alien seeding pod.

ZOR

Predators hunt prey. At least one human has proven himself to them to be on their 'level', and was thereby off-limits. (That's what I took away from Predator 2, anyhow.)

...and? That has one human overcoming being hunted and killing the hunter, that doesn't change what I said at all.

[Molyneux]

Predators hunt prey. At least one human has proven himself to them to be on their 'level', and was thereby off-limits. (That's what I took away from Predator 2, anyhow.)

...and? That has one human overcoming being hunted and killing the hunter, that doesn't change what I said at all.

Hm...you have a point. I think I knee-jerk disagreed with you; my natural impulse with regards to Predators is, "Those things are too cool and creepy-looking to be the villains; I want to be able to cheer them on!"

The problem is, that's really only an option when a Predator is going after truly reprehensible humans, or fighting xenomorphs.

It is also worth noting that in the first and second movies, it was established that Predators both have some definite code of conduct, and only attack 'prey' capable (at least in theory) of putting up a fight. I would think that if they've been coming to Earth for at least several hundred years, they would be more interested in preserving a good hunting planet against a massive Alien infestation than killing a few random humans for the hell of it.

Come to think of it, though, it isn't THAT unprecedented to have the monster from a previous film come back as the "good guy" in the next one. Look at Godzilla, Darth Vader, Frankenstein's monster...hell, almost the entire cast of "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen". There's a definite draw to having the big bad monster that scared the hell out of us switch to the good side.

[Rye]

Hm...you have a point. I think I knee-jerk disagreed with you; my natural impulse with regards to Predators is, "Those things are too cool and creepy-looking to be the villains; I want to be able to cheer them on!"

The problem is, that's really only an option when a Predator is going after truly reprehensible humans, or fighting xenomorphs.

It is also worth noting that in the first and second movies, it was established that Predators both have some definite code of conduct, and only attack 'prey' capable (at least in theory) of putting up a fight. I would think that if they've been coming to Earth for at least several hundred years, they would be more interested in preserving a good hunting planet against a massive Alien infestation than killing a few random humans for the hell of it.

I would imagine so. Logically, they would just bomb the site from orbit. Of course, if they don't kill the armed humans, there's a good chance the humans will get scared and shoot at them, or become hosts for the xenos.

Come to think of it, though, it isn't THAT unprecedented to have the monster from a previous film come back as the "good guy" in the next one. Look at Godzilla, Darth Vader, Frankenstein's monster...hell, almost the entire cast of "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen". There's a definite draw to having the big bad monster that scared the hell out of us switch to the good side.

That's why it happened in AvP 1 and all the comics.

[Darth Wong]

I don't know why anybody is ever surprised if films like this turn out to be hokey schlock-fests. The aliens are only a serious threat to a well-armed force if you create some Act of Plot to make them so. In order to make the aliens so formidable, you have to either set up some highly artificial situation or just resort to idiotic wanking. So which will this film employ?

[dragon]

Damn the video was removed due to terms violation.

[Molyneux]

Hm...you have a point. I think I knee-jerk disagreed with you; my natural impulse with regards to Predators is, "Those things are too cool and creepy-looking to be the villains; I want to be able to cheer them on!"

The problem is, that's really only an option when a Predator is going after truly reprehensible humans, or fighting xenomorphs.

It is also worth noting that in the first and second movies, it was established that Predators both have some definite code of conduct, and only attack 'prey' capable (at least in theory) of putting up a fight. I would think that if they've been coming to Earth for at least several hundred years, they would be more interested in preserving a good hunting planet against a massive Alien infestation than killing a few random humans for the hell of it.

I would imagine so. Logically, they would just bomb the site from orbit. Of course, if they don't kill the armed humans, there's a good chance the humans will get scared and shoot at them, or become hosts for the xenos.

That's a pretty good point...I still don't like it, though. Just never been a fan of main characters dying randomly; it feels like cheating the audience.

Come to think of it, though, it isn't THAT unprecedented to have the monster from a previous film come back as the "good guy" in the next one. Look at Godzilla, Darth Vader, Frankenstein's monster...hell, almost the entire cast of "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen". There's a definite draw to having the big bad monster that scared the hell out of us switch to the good side.

That's why it happened in AvP 1 and all the comics.

I should read the comics, then...though it wasn't really all that impressive in AvP 1, given how badly the Predators got their asses handed to them.

I seriously don't get the point of them hunting Aliens with melee weapons that melt in acid, anyway; one would think they'd have special obsidian knives or something like that.

[Zor]

That's fucking retarded, though. Predators hunt humans. That's how they're introduced to us in the first place. It'd be like Jason teaming up with the nubile teenagers to fight Freddy; totally against their established characters and incredibly lame.

Yes, but it is clear that they are NOT FUCKING HUNTING in this scenario. They crash landed onto a planet with Xenos and armed hunters, defending the crash site i can understand, but not going out of their way to kill people that don't aproach the crash site just for the sake of hunting. If they go out on a pointless hunt, they are behaving like fucking morons.

Zor

Oh really? Where is this made clear? I didn't see one predator ship on the ground in the trailer. There's a fireball in the sky which in all likelihood is either a predator pod or the alien seeding pod.

ZOR

Predators hunt prey. At least one human has proven himself to them to be on their 'level', and was thereby off-limits. (That's what I took away from Predator 2, anyhow.)

...and? That has one human overcoming being hunted and killing the hunter, that doesn't change what I said at all.

Here, note the explosion on the ships side as it dives headlong into our homeworld, and the wreakage from which the facehuggers crawl out off.

Zor

[Rye]

Again, it needn't be the whole ship, could just be seeding the planet with eggs. The first pred was dropped off in such an explosion and trail.

[Molyneux]

Again, it needn't be the whole ship, could just be seeding the planet with eggs. The first pred was dropped off in such an explosion and trail.

Wait: what the fuck?
"Alien seeding pod"? Where are you getting that from?

[Rye]

Again, it needn't be the whole ship, could just be seeding the planet with eggs. The first pred was dropped off in such an explosion and trail.

Wait: what the fuck?
"Alien seeding pod"? Where are you getting that from?

They're in the comics too, and as per AvP 1 they've obviously got the technology to "domesticate" queens in the film setting. Makes sense, too, you don't have to fuck about waiting for them to naturally crop up. Just lob a few eggs at an area you want to hunt in, wait a couple of hours, go hunting.

[Zor]

Again, it needn't be the whole ship, could just be seeding the planet with eggs. The first pred was dropped off in such an explosion and trail.

Wait: what the fuck?
"Alien seeding pod"? Where are you getting that from?

They're in the comics too, and as per AvP 1 they've obviously got the technology to "domesticate" queens in the film setting. Makes sense, too, you don't have to fuck about waiting for them to naturally crop up. Just lob a few eggs at an area you want to hunt in, wait a couple of hours, go hunting.

Such a pod would most likely be internally in much better conditions than the ramshakle mess of components depicted in the trailer, as well (going by the original movie) much smaller.

Zor

[neoolong]

Considering what happened on that pyramid in the flashback in AvP, shouldn't they go for controlled bug hunts over just letting them loose?

From a logistical standpoint it would at least mean you could keep going back to the same planet if it isn't overrun by xenos. Though our tech level now may make that less of a concern, but I imagine it would be one in the distant past.