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General Schatten wrote:Warhammer 40k: The Anime

-Pre-Horus Fight-
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Emperor: -sparkles in eyes- I must Rogal, I must make Sanguinius' sacrifice matter, for the Imperium, for Terra.
-Cue Homoerotically Charged Fight With Horus with cherry blossoms falling in the background-

-Terran School Scene-
Schoolgirls: Oh no, the forces of Chaos!
Fulgrim: Tentacle-Attack!

Best Movie Ever? :P
I loled hard when I read this.

But you forgot that at the climax of the Emperor Horus fight that the emperor goes into his full power final ultra transformation and unleashes his wrath.
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andrewgpaul wrote:Is this Salamanders: The Movie you're making? :)

Oh, and General Schatten, I realaise you weren't entirely seriuous, but keep your anime shite away from my 40K. :evil:
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The Tau are hardly be animé-like :P .
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Believe me, they are enough for some players to complain about it. :P

While I consider anime to be certainly versatile enough, and it can indeed be very serious business when it wants to, I don't think it would be entirely adequate, aesthetically. That's not to say that a traditionally animated 40K project isn't doable, because it definitely is, but that a western style would probably be more suitable due to the property's overwhelming Britshness.

And ugh to a trilogy, we get too many of those thrown at us as it is! It's bad enough that it seems like every other film production since 1998 either has been or was intended to be part of a trilogy. With something as risky as a 40K film, it would probably be better to do a standalone storyline for a first attempt that can work all by itself.
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Teleros wrote:The Tau are hardly be animé-like :P .
Really ?



ITS A GUNDAM?!
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Indeed.

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GW has been trying to get something together on these lines for years. Lots of studios want to use the setting, and they're willing to give GW some creative control. It always breaks down at merchandising, though. GW won't allow any other company to make toys based on their copyrights, and the movie studios won't make the movie without the merchandising rights.
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Ted C wrote:GW has been trying to get something together on these lines for years. Lots of studios want to use the setting, and they're willing to give GW some creative control. It always breaks down at merchandising, though. GW won't allow any other company to make toys based on their copyrights, and the movie studios won't make the movie without the merchandising rights.
Couldn't a compromise be reached, e.g., Hasbro pays Games Workshop licensing fees for the right to manufacture Space Marine action figures?
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white_rabbit wrote:
Teleros wrote:The Tau are hardly be animé-like :P .
Really ?



ITS A GUNDAM?!
Oh come on. A one-off Forge World Shas'O model (which unless I'm mistaken isn't even in the fluff anywhere) is hardly a fair representation of the attitude of the entire Tau Empire.

As for the significance of his visual similarity to the Gundam, he barely compares to the other heroes available to other armies, stands little chance against a tank, and goes down easily to artillery fire.

Hardly Gundam mecha-wank.
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Who said anything about mecha wank? It was only that the Tau are sort of vaguely anime-ish, which they are (in particular evocative of Masamune Shiro's work).
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Oh come on. A one-off Forge World Shas'O model (which unless I'm mistaken isn't even in the fluff anywhere) is hardly a fair representation of the attitude of the entire Tau Empire.
I think its pretty obvious you are mistaken, about a great many things :P

He's got his own book, its the Tau commander for the Taros campaign, thats his personalised suit, not to mention the entire range of alternate Tau battlesuits, and the plastic battlesuits themselves.

If you weren't being so daft, you'd realise that there is a distinct tinge of anime stylings to the Tau hardware, as well as other asian influences like those weird hats the Tau ethereals sometimes wear, the almost stylised look of some ethereals, (ancient asian sage type thingy)

In fact, I may even have a photo of the "inspiration" board they put up when the tau were first introduced at Gamesday, with the giant picture of Wing Zero in the middle.
Hardly Gundam mecha-wank.
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Heh; I'll give you that the Tau armour designs might owe something to anime, but that's it. The artistic depictions of the Tau are nothing like anime; to stereotype, there's no funky hair and big eyes. They're depicted in the same way as everything else in the setting. If I start seeing Space Marines and Battle Titans looking like something out of Gundam, I'll cry.
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VF5SS wrote:
white_rabbit wrote: ITS A GUNDAM?!
More liek MADOX-01
I freely admit to not being totally clued up on my anime, but then I wouldn't have been able to use my gundam line :lol:
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andrewgpaul wrote:Heh; I'll give you that the Tau armour designs might owe something to anime, but that's it.
Yeah, that's pretty much as far as the critical accusation goes as well.
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andrewgpaul wrote:Is this Salamanders: The Movie you're making?
Are you saying that's a bad thing?

And yes, I will admit to the ulterior motive of wanting to have Samuel L. Jackson as a Space Marine. In Terminator armour. With a huge warhammer. With "Bad Mother Fucker" chiselled into the business end. And James Earl Jones as the voice of a dreadnought.

Best bit is that Mr. Jackson is geeky enough to allow his image to be used for Nick Fury (and subsequently play him in a cameo for the upcoming Iron Man) and insisted on keeping the name of Snakes on a Plane, so I think if you were to go up to him and say, "We want you to play a genetically engineered supersoldier in the 41st millenium" he would be willing to read the script before giving an answer.

Oh, and Chow Yun-Fat should have a cameo as a White Scars captain.

Because Warhammer 40k is all about being awesome and badass, so we can't have too many awesome, badass actors involved (other than price).
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white_rabbit wrote:
Oh come on. A one-off Forge World Shas'O model (which unless I'm mistaken isn't even in the fluff anywhere) is hardly a fair representation of the attitude of the entire Tau Empire.
I think its pretty obvious you are mistaken, about a great many things :P

He's got his own book, its the Tau commander for the Taros campaign, thats his personalised suit, not to mention the entire range of alternate Tau battlesuits, and the plastic battlesuits themselves.
Ok, I was mistaken about him. I know about the other battlesuits (I've got what, seven or so), but I don't see much resemblance between them and that Gundam thing.
If you weren't being so daft, you'd realise that there is a distinct tinge of anime stylings to the Tau hardware, as well as other asian influences like those weird hats the Tau ethereals sometimes wear, the almost stylised look of some ethereals, (ancient asian sage type thingy)

In fact, I may even have a photo of the "inspiration" board they put up when the tau were first introduced at Gamesday, with the giant picture of Wing Zero in the middle.
Hardly Gundam mecha-wank.
What are you fucking talking about ?
You know, naturally assuming that mecha are intrinsically better than tanks and that sort of thing.

On the other hand, I suppose you didn't actually mention it, so it was wrong of me to assume that you were implying it. Sorry.

As for the Tau Empire as a whole, I don't see so many Anime influences as Indian-Asian cultural influences. The whole Castes thing, Fire Warriors as elite ranged fighters (the original Samurai, IIRC), Battlesuits bearing some similarity to horse archers in terms of tactics and what not.

And then, there's the Modern influences you can see; their shiny toys, guided munitions, good understanding of their equipment and its workings, emphasis on mobility and firepower, etc.
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Oh, and ok, so the Battlesuits are a nod towards Anime. But there isn't much else in there...
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Ok, I was mistaken about him. I know about the other battlesuits (I've got what, seven or so), but I don't see much resemblance between them and that Gundam thing.
I have little interest in belabouring this point with you.
You know, naturally assuming that mecha are intrinsically better than tanks and that sort of thing.
I don't think this little sequence of posting is something you should look back on with pride mate.

Similarly with the rest of your post, its not like I'm claiming they are some sort of fucking clone ripoff of anime in general, and I've already mentioned that I consider their influence eastern in general as well.

So well fucking done, you've got me as close to defending the irritatingly wanked little blue bastards as I like to get.
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Speaking of the Salamanders, does it disturb anyone else that the Chapter Master has the name Tu'shan?
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Basically it comes down to four possibilities:

1.) the Imperial Guard, most notably the Ghosts. The Ghosts already are heavily reminsicent of Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe's series (One reason I like them, actually) and the BBC made some very successful Television movies based on the Sharpe books (starring Sean Bean, and I love the novels despite some of the low budget stuff.)

You could also do Ciaphas Cain because of the kind of character he is and that would translate well as a character.

2.) Space Marines. For a pure action flick the Spacec Marines could be great in any number of ways. An invasion/attack on an enemy-held Imperium world (Say by Chaos). Other possibilities include boarding a space hulk (good way for drama, ,it could be alot like the Aliens movies.)


3.) Battlefleet Gothic. Horatio Hornblower (or Jack Aubrey, take your pick) in Space would also translate well to the screen (think of any pirate/age of sail movie you want, or any general movie with fights in space.) Execution Hour or Shadow Point would translate well in these regards. Lots of action, ,adventure, etc.


4.) 40K, at least alot of the earlier stuff, has always had an element of humor or parody to itself. One could take a page out of the "Starship troopers" movie and make something like it in a parody form (something like the Uplifting Primer, ,I think.) Actually this might mesh well with the idea of putting Cain into a movie too.
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white_rabbit wrote:I freely admit to not being totally clued up on my anime, but then I wouldn't have been able to use my gundam line :lol:
The Tau always make me think more of voltron or Robotech. I could absolutely see individual Tau battlesuits transformign to form Voltron.
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Given that they made a Flashman movie, I can certainly see a Cain movie working (Cain is pretty much Flashman in 40k).

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Ted C wrote:GW has been trying to get something together on these lines for years. Lots of studios want to use the setting, and they're willing to give GW some creative control. It always breaks down at merchandising, though. GW won't allow any other company to make toys based on their copyrights, and the movie studios won't make the movie without the merchandising rights.
You know, my first thought on this explanation, besides it being not surprising whatsoever if true, is GW's demand wouldn't be so hilariously retarded if they would/could sell a 4-inch figure for under forty dollars.

They can't maintain a widely-known property when they make their customer base as narrow as possible.
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Academia Nut wrote:
andrewgpaul wrote:Is this Salamanders: The Movie you're making?
Are you saying that's a bad thing?
No, not at all. It's just that the Salamanders are the only chapter, AFAIK, that appear to have escaped the white hand of John Blanche's art direction :)
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