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With the conclusion of Sabbat MArtyr, we move into the third cycle of Ghosts novels. The Lost. As cycles go it was pretty middling. The action was good. The continuing character subplots were interesting, and it was interesting how Abnett focused more on Chaos this time around than just the Crusade but.. it didn't really feel like it went anywhere. It was more transitional/placeholder stuff akin to the first couple books, really, although it seems to set up a fair bit of stuff.

The first book in the cycle is Traitor General. Its interesting in the sense that it does not feature the full regiment, but rather select characters, who are dropped behind enemy lines for a specific mission (Spec ops guerilla kill team action, basically.) to stop a high-ranking traitor who is allying with Chaos with the informaiton locked in his head. What is truly notable about the novel, however, is the setting. THe planet is one conquered by Chaos, and it gives the Ghosts the firsthand look at the civilization they are fighting against in terms of more than just the soldiers they fight. WE see bits of their economy, law, their psychology, their method of governing, etc. More than that, though, we're presented with the dangers of Chaos taint and how each Ghost is forced to deal with it on this important mission, as well as how they interact with the local insurrectionist elements.. the strain the mission and the enviroment puts them under becomes a major point of tension throughout the book, although this also transitions later on into a unifying element, as we find in the next book.

Its also the start of my 'smaller' updates, in that I'll only cover this one in two. This is part one, and I'll provide the other half at some later date.


age 15
The three excubitors surrounded him. Each was two metres tall and clad in heavy buckled boots and long coats of grey scale armour. They aimed their ornate las-locks at him.
Excubitors. Some sort of Chaos garrison troops/enforcers, I think. Yet more 2 metre tall men.


Page 18
Hands grabbed him and hustled him forward. The paddle of an auspex buzzed as it was passed up and down his body.
“Clean!” someone said.
Guessing it detects weapons, eavesdropping gear/communications, etc.


Page 35
“I think perhaps the understandably tortuous lines of communication between the Gereon resistance cells and Guard Intelligence have been even less adequate than we’d hoped.
Guard intel. The interesting thing is here that it seems the Guard (or at least their intel elements, or is that munitorum intel?) has made signficant efforst to contact (and possibly establish/support) insurrectionist elements on Chaos-held worlds. One presumes that Chaos does likewise.


PAge 37
“You come here with this crap? Some half-arsed stealth mission that you can’t breathe a word of? Screw you! We’ve suffered! We’ve died! Millions have died! Do you know what those bastards have done to us?”
“Yes,” said Gaunt quietly.
“I don’t bloody think so! The invasion? The slaughter? The extermination camps? The things they buried in our flesh to keep us tame? The foul propaganda they blast from the speakers every hour of the day and night? The few of us left who can think straight, the bloody few of us, risking our lives every day to keep the resistance alive! A raid here, a bombing there, comrades massacred, dragged off for interrogation or worse! What kept us going, do you suppose? What the hell kept us going?”
“The thought of liberation.”
“The thought of liberation! Yes, sir! Yes screw-you sir! Every day! Every day for six hundred and four days! Six hundred and bloody five now! Days of Pain! We have a calendar! A bloody calendar! Six hundred and five days of pain and death and torment—”
..
“Do you know what the bloody ordinals make me do? I am consented to work in the Iconoclave! Do you know what that means?”
“No,” said Gaunt.
“It means I am allowed to go to what was the town hall for twelve hours every day and use a sledgehammer to break up any symbols of the Imperium that the bastards drag in! Statues… plaques… standards… insignia… I have to pound them to scrap and rubble! And they allow me to do this! They permit me! It’s seen as a special honour for those of us consented to do it! A perk! A trustee’s luxury! Because it’s that or file into the maws of the meat foundries and, you know, somehow I’d rather splinter a statue of Saint Kiodrus into chippings than be dragged off there!”
We learn a bit about the Sabbat Worlds arm of Chaos and its occupation methods and techniques. Surprisingly its not quite as brutal/arbitrary as we might expect from Chaos - or maybe its that they aren't quite as bizarrely over the top GRIMDARK crap. I mean as we learn they want resources, they want to indoctrinate the population, and they want power.. but thats not really that much different from normal humanity, and while they are plenty brutal (especially to those who don't kowtow to the Chaos way or cling to Imperial ideals) they aren't as rbitrarily brutal as you might expect. Its more akin to the 'horus Hersy' era depiction of Chaos really.. they're not quite as arbitrary or insane, at least on some level, and the differences between the two sides are alot more blurred than either the Imperials or Chaos might wish. Indeed, one imght consider this entire book a 'learning experience' for many Imperial/Chaos characters, in the same sense the Eisenhorn and Ravenor novels had 'discovery' in their Imperial/chaos interactions, whether it was Eisenhorn and Pontius Glaw, Ravenor and Moloch.. or whatever.
Another interesting bit is how the Ghosts (dedicated Imperials) must deal with people they know who are tainted. They look and sound loyal, but they've bene under the influence of Chaos for years, and the relations between the two is an ongoing plot for this book and beyond.
An interesting consequence of this passage is the whole theme of 'Chaos' corruption and the taint. Gaunt and his crew not only face it, but they must deal with people who have lived with it for years now, and how it may have changed them. Indeed, there is a certain amount of distrust amongst the infiltrators and the native insurgents because of that - the Ghosts distrusting anyone with the taint (especially ones like Rawne.) whilst the insurgents here are defensive because of what they've been forced to do, to accept, in order to survive.
It's interesting also because the way the Ghosts must react to this, and what might be asked of them to achieve their mission, alongisde interacting with/tolerating with people who may be tainted. A test of sorts, we might conclude.


Page 38
“Very likely. But it’s true. If my team fails here, we’re talking about the possible failure of the entire Sabbat Crusade. One hundred inhabited systems, Landerson. Would you like them all to end up like Gereon?”
100 wolrds in the Sabbat Worlds region again. Gaunt is really in a tough position here. He wants to help but he also has to achieve his goal, even at the cost of sacrificing the world and the rebellion on it.


Page 43
They were big. Some kind of semi-feral mastiff breed sired in the holds of the archenemy fleet. A dozen of them, each one so thickly muscled it weighed more than an adult human male.
Fetch hounds. Chaos tracking animals. Its mentioned they can track blood, human pheremones, the imagos (used as tracking devices on Chaos worlds) and similar. Its also mentioned they could easily smell the Ghost infiltration team because they are 'too clean'.


Page 45
Lasfire streamed out between the trees, shredding the low foliage.
..
He started to fire, but the air was suddenly thick with smoke wash and water vapour from the burst foliage.
lasfire not stopped by foliage. Bolts also ignite and/or vapourize (the water content, probably) of the foliage.


Page 45
Another sniper round took the head off one of the excubitors manning the lamps.
Larkin headsplodes Excubitor. Considering they're height and augmetics, probably more impressive than normal human head.


Page 46
The big, rough-looking man calmly advanced with his massive autocannon cradled like a baby in his arms. He dropped the long telescope monopod to brace and then let rip, feeding ammo on a belt from one of two heavy hoppers strung to his hips.
..
The steady flow of armour-piercing rounds had ruptured the deep-set fuel tank.
Brostin, a flame trooper. SEems to have become the Bragg-analogue for this story lol. Monopod support for the weapon. Uses AP rounds.


Page 46
Lasrifles on rapid, but devastatingly precise. Some of the excubitors tried to turn and were smacked off their feet. Landerson saw a chest explode, scale-mail pieces flung out. A las-lock was hit as it fired and blew up in a crescent of torched energy.
RApid fire (full auto) las bolts blow out at least one chest. Whether a single barrage (lasgun) or mutliple we dont know, or how many shots for that matter (probbly not more than a second or two of sustained fire.) It makes sense though for a barrage, if multiple lasshots can blow off limbs or make big holes in heads (or blow apay part or most of a head) then multiple shots hitting in close proximity could probably do this. If we figure roughly a 20x20 cm area and 400 j per sq cm thats 160 kj. Double/triple digit kj for the 'burst' is likely.


Page 47
The second halftrack tried to turn and reverse. A tube-charge spun in from Rawne — a long, precise throw — and blew it apart.
Halftrack blown apart by tube charge.


Page 56
" Can she at least tell me what an ethnologue is?”
“It is my duty to learn in all detail about the life and culture of the enemy,”
Ethnologue. Used by the Archenemy forces in the Sabbat Worlds region to learn about the enemy.


Page 57-58
“Nine worlds in the Anarch’s domain lack water sources. They are parched, thirsty. Today, here, we conduct a ceremony that will access Gereon’s resources to aid them. The process has already been done at four sites on the planet already."
..
“Eight billion cubic metres of fresh water, replenished on a three-day cycle. Do you know what a jehgenesh is?”
..
“Don’t be misled by its current size. It’s dormant and infolded. Released into the water, it will grow. Essentially, it’s a huge maw. On one end, flooding in, this water source. The jehgenesh is a warp beast. The water that pours into its mouth will be ejected through the holy warp onto another world. The arid basins of Anchisus Bone, for example.”
The pheguth gazed at the cylinder in his hands. “This is how you plunder?”
“It is one way amongst many.”
“But this is why so many worlds we find have been drained?”
The Plenipotentiary nodded. “The drinkers swallow water, also fuel oil, promethium, certain gas reserves. Why would we conquer worlds if we didn’t actually use them? I mean, literally, use them?”
This is a.. very interesting creature. In many ways it reminds one of the teleporter creatures that Tyranid starships had (at leats in older fluff) as well as warp portals/gates and the Eldar webway in how it works. The ability to not only move large quantities of anything, but to move anything at all, without a starship in a point-to-point manner like that is a considerable advantage, at least once the connections are established (The Necrons and Eldar again enjoy similar advantages.)
This is also another oen of those interesting compare/contrast bits between Imperials and Chaos. WE've known countless example sof the Imperials stripping worlds of resources and abandoning them, and it seems Chaos, in their own fashion, may do likewise. Although, at least as far as the Sabbat Worlds region goes, Chaos seems to be consierably more exploitative (and gleefully so) of the two.
The creature can apparently transfer 8 trillion kg (or 8 billion tons) of water in around 3 days. Assuming between 10-20 LY thats an average transit time of 1200c, although it means to transmit the hwole thing - sa far as we know the actual transit is much faster at any given time. What's more they can do this with any sort of liquid or gas medium, including oil and promethium and gasses, so it can siphon off and transmit other resources quite easily. It also suggests promethium is distinct from fuel oil (as it is from diesel) but is either liquid or gaseous.
They also have other ways to 'plunder.'


Page 62
Nearby, Beltayn, Varl and Larkin were huddled up, drinking soup through the straws of self-heating ration packs.
Self heating, Guard issue ration soup packs.


Page 64
Major Elim Rawne had become Gaunt’s number two following the death of Colm Corbec. Rawne was darkly handsome and murderous. There had been times, especially in the early days, when Rawne might have sheathed his silver Tanith warknife in Gaunt’s back the first chance he got. Some among the Tanith — a precious few, these days, and getting fewer all the time — still blamed Gaunt for abandoning their homeworld to its fate. Rawne was their ringleader. Hate had fuelled him, driven him on.
But they had served together now for the best part of nine years. A kind of mutual respect had grown between the major and the colonel-commissar. Gaunt no longer expected a knife in the back. But he still didn’t turn his back on Rawne, nevertheless.
This novel, and this passage, begins what I figure is the major turning point in Rawne's personality and his reliationship with Gaunt. Obviously the two have come a long way since the first few novels, and Rawne's hate and desire to kill Gaunt has dulled over time. Now that Corbec is dead, Rawne is Gaunt's second, and that will, I believe, do much to dull the antagonism between the two (or at least Rawne's. Gaunt really doesn't hate the guy, he just distrusts him.) The Gereon mission will bond Gaunt and Rawne (and indeed the others) in ways that will echo later in the series (much the same way Corbec, Dorden, Daur, Milo, Bragg, and others had bonded in the Saint arc from Hagia to Herodor in the last arc.) Bonds of fellowship and that play a big role in this series - the Ghosts to Gaunt (and vice versa), Tanith to their leaders (or Verghasites to theirs) and to each other, the larger unity of the Imperial Guard, (or lack thereof), and the specific bonds I already mentioned. Oh and the Blood pact. :P



Page 64
The ague was a broad and non-specific term for all kinds of infections and maladies suffered by personnel transferred from one world to another. A body might acclimatise to one planet’s germ-pool, its pollens, its bacteria, and then ship out on a troop transport and plunge into quite another bio-culture. These changes required adjustment, and often triggered colds, fevers, allergies, or simply the lags and fatigues brought on by warp-space transfer. Gereon was going to make them all sick. That was a given. Potentially, they might all get very ill indeed, given the noxious touch of Chaos that had stained this world. It was Curth’s primary job to monitor their health, treat any maladies, keep them fit enough to see out the mission. Treating wounds and injuries they might sustain was entirely secondary to this vital work.
The 'ague' defined and its origins. Given the size and diversity of the Imperium, its not a huge shock that it would be a non-serous issue. We've seen i previous novels that the part of Curth and Dorden's job was to watch for and immunize/treat such symptoms, or prevent them if possible. 1st edition had something called 'immune' which offered 100 days of broad-spectrum protection against virus and illness and even biological warfare. We might figure that 'concept' has been carried forward from 1st in some manner into the Guard, in order to preserve their health and viability as a fighting force. The Ghosts novels seem to imply that much, at least.



Page 66
"The implants, you mean? Yes, they have. They call them imagos. It’s the archenemy’s way of tagging the populace.”
Some sort of parasite really, it can be detected by certain means (glyfs) and soldiers/excubitors can 'read' the glyf to learn about the restrictions or permissions on the populace (whether they are allowed to go out only in the day, or at night, or if they can do both.) as well as other information (locale, etc.)



Page 72
Ordinarily, the Tanith Ghosts carried mk III lasrifles, finished with solid nalwood stocks and sleeves, with a standard laspistol and silver warknife as back-up.
Oddly, the ghosts all seem to have laspistols as standard now, which is quite different from what we learned in Guns of Tanith. One might imagine that the problems in that little conflict taught them a lesson in having a backup weapon that wasn't reliant on a specific battery type.



Page 73
They’d swapped their rifles for hand-modified versions of the so-called “Gak” issue weapon: wire-stocked mk III’s supplied to the Verghastites in the regiment. The wire stocks made the weapons lighter, and could be folded back to make them significantly shorter. The special modifications had also shortened the muzzle length, strengthened the barrel, and increased the capacity of the energy clip. These were insurgence weapons, tooled for commando work, with the power and range of a standard lasrifle but about a third less overall length.
Evidently there are differences between Tanith and Verghast lasweapons than just the difference in stock material, or that may just rflect the adaptations made for this mission, I'm ont entirely sure given the context (the Verghastites were insurgents after all) but it could go either way.
In any event it shows the fundamental versatility of the lasgun and how it can be customized depending on how you plug and play it. Here, they make a more compact version of a lasgun that has the same range and power but a larger capacity. Whether the clip capacity is extended because it stores more energy, or they made it more efficient at inflicting damage 'per shot' than a standard lasgun, I dont know. Possibly the latter, given the strengthened barrel. I suspect the barrel may also play ar ole in the range (although its possible its a bullpup design as well, that would make sense to reduce muzzle length whilst retaining power, and we know bullpups are a common commando variant.)
Apparently lasgun stock has a huge influence on the weapon's weight as well. I have to wonder what the design tradeoffs were to reduce weight and size, yet retain performance and have a bigger ammo capacity. Cost maybe. Lifespan MAY be another tradeoff (recall that strengthened barrels in long las wear out faster seemingly, although they deal with more powerful shots.) although it can't be too much of one as they have to expect the weapons to last as long as the ammo (heck - last the duration of the mission at LEAST, which is at least a month, since you can recharge the powerpacks.)



Page 73
..the laspistols had also been ditched in favour of compact autopistols. These pistols lacked the stopping power of a lasweapon, but a lasweapon was hard to keep muffled and it was impossible to keep flash suppressed. Each autopistol had a fat drum silencer screwed to the muzzle.
I'm not sure whether this means lasweapons in general are more powerful than autoweapon equivalents, or if its just compared to this silenced, compact version. It could be argued either way, but it was hinted at in Honour Guard that lasweapons are worse than autoweapons.


Page 74
He’d read his Ravenor, his Czevak, his Blandishments of Hand. He’d read a double-dozen treatises from the Inquisitorial ordos as recommended by the Commissariat. Chaos always tainted. Fact. It infected. It stained. Even into the most sturdy and centred, it seeped osmotically and corrupted. That was an ever-present danger on the battlefield. But here… here on what was by any measure a Chaos world… how long would it take?
Before departure, Gaunt had spoken to Tactician Biota, a man he trusted. Biota had reckoned — in consultation with the Ordo Malleus — that Gaunt’s men had about a month.
After that, no matter what they felt or thought about themselves, they would most likely be corrupted beyond salvation.
One of the ongoing themes of this story (and arc) is the concept of Chaos and chaos corruption in general, on this planet and in general. Storywise, it sets up a sort of deadline and creates pressure on the Ghosts to complete their mission lest they are corrupted, but there's also a certain risk involved even if they do before then. That risk of course being the Imperium's paranoid approach to chaos in general - even if the Ghosts survive and return, they may be deemed corrupted and beyond salvation even by limited exposure. The Imperium does not really fool around when it comes to Chaos, and the fluff has had many examples of whole regiments (or planets - recall first Armageddon) being purged simply on suspicion of taint. The Mordant 13th form Tactica Imperialis is a more specific example.
In a more practical term, it could be that the fact Tainting is not instantaneous or guaranteed may explain why some forces/regiments are purged and others aren't. THere could be Inquisitorial rules/guidelines, rules of thumbs, or such that come into play here.


Page 94
A mixture of excubitors and battle-troops formed the vanguard. Many of them held aloft spiked, racemose standards and filthy banners on long poles. The bulk of the procession was citizenry, shackled in long, trudging lines, singing and clapping.
These were proselytes. It saddened Gaunt to see so many. Every day, more and more members of the cowed populace elected to convert to the wretched faiths of the enemy. Some saw it, perhaps, as their only chance to survive. Others regarded it as a way of securing a better life, with greater liberties and consents. For the most part, Gaunt thought darkly, they converted because Chaos had swallowed their bewildered souls.
Ordinals led the parade towards the temple. Landerson had told Gaunt that “ordinals” was a blanket term for the senior administrators of the enemy power. Some were priests, others scholars, bureaucrats, financiers, merchants. They wore elaborately coloured robes and headdresses, and their be-ringed fingers hefted ornate staves and ceremonial maces. Some were female, some male, others indeterminate, and many displayed horrifying mutation traits. Gaunt couldn’t tell — didn’t want to tell — what the variations in dress and decoration denoted. They were all enemies. But they intrigued him nevertheless. In his career, he had faced the warriors and the devotees of the Ruinous Powers in many guises, but this was the first time he had properly laid eyes on the dignitaries and officials who ordered their culture and society. These were the fiends who followed the smouldering wake of battle and established rule and control over the territories conquered by their warrior hosts.
Another learning experience of the Ghosts when it comes to Chaos.
I should note that much like with the Imperium, there is likely to be little (even less probably) standardization amongst Chaos. This is actually, by Chaos terms, pretty mild, as we've seen more insane socities evolve in Ben Counter novels (as an example. But Chaos is ever variable, but I think this reflects a level of Chaos that isn't quite 'batshit insane' at all levels like a DAemon World can get, but rather the level of 'sane' Chaos infestaiton like you got with the Horus Heresy... where the corruption and infiltration by the Ruinous Powers was deeper, and hidden behind a more respectable mask. Abnett seems to make a point of treating the Sabbat Worlds Archenemy like they aren't too dissimilar from us in some respects... except for the differences that do exist, which are pretty extreme. We see more of this in Blood Pact.


Page 114
“We’re close,” she said. “The road’s beyond those trees, and the agri-plex is down that way, about a kilometre.”
Mkoll nodded. That agreed with his own mental map, which was seldom wrong.
..
“We should have range now,” Gaunt said. He adjusted his micro-bead.
A kilometre away from the rest of their force. That gives a rough range on comm beads for this mission. A much shorter range than presented in Straight Silver OR His Last command, for example.


Page 118
Using the silenced autopistol was no fun, but at least it was a challenge. It wasn’t just a matter of hitting the targets. They were armoured and would easily shrug off a small cal round, especially one underpowered by a silencer. The art was to aim really well and hit them where they were soft. Visor. Throat. The armpit gap between chest plating and shoulder guard.
An indication of LArkin's marksmanship with pistols. Also the Chaos Trooper armour (Sek's troops) is easily resistant to small-calibre bullets (at least autopistol bullets, and most especially silenced ammo.)


Page 118
The vox was dead. Like it was being jammed. How was that even possible?
On the straw-littered floor of the shed in front of him, the sirdar saw an Imperial field-vox set, infantry issue. It was powered up and active, the dials set to a white noise broadcast that would wipe vox contact, at least anything in the locality of the farm.
Backpack field-voxes can be set to jamming modes, although it probably blocks their own comms to do so.


Page 124
And everyone’s got this.” She pulled back her cuff. Her pale forearm was dotted with a prickle pattern like angry heat rash. “Allergic reaction. I was wondering if it was the spores in those damn silos.”
Gaunt shook his head. He yanked down his own collar and showed her a comparable rash along the base of his neck and collarbone. “We’ve all got it. It’s an allergic reaction, all right. To this world, lb the taint here. Major Cirk says it afflicted everyone on Gereon in the first few weeks after the invasion. When it fades… that’s when I’ll worry. Because that’s when we’re acclimatised.”
“When we’ve become tainted?” she asked.
Allergic reactions/rashes to presence on a Chaos world. Its an interesting thing to note, as it suggests Chaos infestation/taint can have a certain.. biological vector to it I guess.. and requires the human body to adapt to it (or develop an immunity) like adapting to different gravities, or climates, or altitudes.


Page 128
What Urlock Gaur brought to the table was a refined, trained and disciplined military force. All the other magisters commanded vast legions of zealot cultists and insane worshippers. Hideous forces, but utterly without focus, and vulnerable to the rigid drive of the Imperial Guard.
Urlock Gaur’s host was known as the Blood Pact. They were sworn to him, utterly loyal, their bodies ritually scarred by the serrated edges of Gaur’s own armour. They had discipline, armour, tactical ability and great combat skill. They were, in fact, an army, not a host.
The pheguth had never encountered the Blood Pact in action, but he knew of them from intelligence reports. They were mankind’s worst fear, a force of the Ruinous Powers guided and orchestrated on military models. They could meet with and defeat the Imperial Guard on its own terms, out-fighting them.
For the simple reason that the Blood Pact was modelled directly on the structure of the Imperial Guard.
They borrowed their weapons and armour, they stole their uniforms, they seduced Guardsmen into their ranks and made them traitors, stealing their skills. They were a force the Imperium must reckon with, and they had secured Gaur the rank of Archon.
Throne take them, they might even have the skill to drive Macaroth’s Crusade back out of these stars.
Gaur's ascension to Archon and the Blood pact in detail. Much of this we know from previous Ghosts novels, in bits and pieces. They're based on the Guard, they borrow/steal their gear (or copy it in their own manufacture) and learn their skills and techniques. This makes them unique amongst Chaos forces (at least in this region) and a greater than usual threat to the Guard. Mind you, its not the first time we've run across Chaos Forces who are like the Guard.
Again this is us learning more about the enemy in this series, its politics and motivations, and its goals. They want territory, they want to convert people to their way of thinking, they want resources. And they have ambition. Sek, one of the magisters (and the one mentioned in this novel) has Ambition to topple Gaur and sets out to create his own Blood Pact analogue, the Sons of Sek. That process is part of this book.


PAge 145-146
Uexkull latched his autocannon against his shoulder plate and connected the servo feeds.
..
Augmetic sensors embedded in his collar-plate and the side of his cranium automatically selected low light scoping. Nictating filters slid over his eyes. The world resolved into a ruddy blur, the crimson wash of cold areas graduating to the palest pink tells of heat sources.
Chaos Space MArine with armaments and senses. HE has some sort of eye/lense autosense/infrared/trgeting thingy (meaning he doesn't wear a helmet) a shoulder mounted autocannon mount, and carries a bolt pistol.


Page 146
His cannon slammed into life, licking out a sizzling flash, the recoil smacking it back against the locking harness in his upper body armour. Something made of meat and bone atomised. Another heat spot, right ahead, moved against the cold-streaming fuzz of the rainwater drizzling in through the roof
Our CSM dude again, both weapons.


PAge 163
Lasrifle cradled in one meaty arm, Brostin had cut them down, the lho-stick pressed to his mouth with the finger and thumb of his other hand.
...
Brostin leant into the recoil and fired another burst, one-handed, that sent two more archenemy troopers over onto the road.
VErghasite lasgun fired one handed, and possess considerable recoil (for some reason) when fired one handed.


Page 163
He kept it on single-shot. He seldom wasted ammo on blurts of auto.
Mkvenner's lasweapon. Implies lasweapon 'auto' might actually be more of a burst fire mode.


Page 169-170
Throughout Gaunt’s career, the ability to turn out an inspirational phrase had served him well. A key part of any commissar’s job was to inspire and uplift, to make a man forget the privations he suffered or the horrors he faced. He was good at it. Right now, with some distaste, he realised he was playing on that skill, saying what Landerson needed to hear.
..
So he did what commissars had been doing since the inauguration of the Officio Commissariat. He put a positive spin on things. He inspired and kindled trust.
Gaunt mentions again that a big part of a Commissars' duty is to inspire/uplift, to push positive propoganda, and to generally psychologically manipulate others to acheive his goals.



Page 171
Gaunt nodded. There had been no way they’d have been able to bring enough rations for the entire mission. Foraging was a necessary evil, and he’d been putting it off. Once they started eating the native resources, it would likely accelerate the effect of Chaos in their systems.
Dangers of foraging on Chaos worlds. It seems that ingesting can accelerate chaos tainting. In some ways its almost like a disease in that regard. This also likely means that the very air is tainted and corrupting them with every breath (the Glyfs mentioned later would reinforce this idea.)


Page 174
For all its might, for all its frightening power, the archenemy of mankind understood virtually nothing about the day-to-day workings of the Imperium.
The ethnologue was, in his opinion, the archenemy’s most formidable weapon. The forces of the Ruinous Powers might lay waste to worlds, conquer planets, and burn fleets out of the void, but they did not even begin to understand the mechanisms of their sworn enemy.
Cluwge was an instrument in that subtle war. She asked the questions that were unanswerable during the heat of combat. She asked about the little details, the small particulars of Imperial life. The hosts of the Archon might crush the warriors of the Imperium, might drive them to rout, but Cluwge’s understanding offered them true mastery. Defeating the enemy was one thing. Comprehending the workings of its society so that it might be controlled and suppressed — that was quite another.
Idresha Cluwge was a tool of domination. What she learned informed the higher powers and armed them for rule.
Again this shows that Chaos is not always just a mindless ravening mob of murderers, sensation addicts, manipualtors, or whatever. Like with the Blood Pact, they can learn, they can adapt. They can become like their enemies. This book (and those arcs) is really about the blurring of those lines and absolutes so often held to in the Imperium, thoes absolutes that often dictate absolute (read excessive) responses, even though things often ar emuch more complicated. The Imperium (and the 40K galaxy as a whole) often reflect an attempt to impose absolutes on something that is not absolute. The Imperium feels it is important for unity and order and survival, and to some extent this is true, but not always, and it often leads to as many problesm as it solves (not that the Imperium realizes this.)
It also reinforces the earlier idea that Chaos and the Imperium can be quite similar, even though its obvious that neither side really knows or understands the other (or in the Imperium's case, wants to, as they consider that dangerous... which it is to a point. CF Eisenhorn.) But the Chaos factions in the Ghosts novels are just as interested in conquest - of people and planets, in the acquisition of resources and expansion of power. They aren't just out to kill, murder and plunder. They have structure (of a sort) and a goal, and they learn. And that makes them truly dangerous, as they can learn to be just as good of conquerors as the Imperium.
As I noted before this is very much an echo of the 'Horus Heresy' version of Chaos, which is both subtle, intelligent, and complex compared to the usual howling mob of frenzied cultists or pirates or RAvening evil Space Marines you get. The Archenemy in the Sabbat Worlds is out to wage war not just of bullets and blades and cannon and starships, but of heart and mind, of psychology. Indeed, we saw much of this in the previous novels, where psychology and symbolism playd a big role in the larger 'military' decisions, such as Sabbat Martyr (symbols matter, especially where the Warp is concerned.)



Page 177
Blood was soaking his left shoulder and the front of his tunic. Hi’s blood. He raised his hand and gently prodded the fused mess of his left ear. His fingertips came away bloody.
Laspistol shot to the ear. Fuses flesh, but oesnt cauterize.


Page 181
“Those people look like mourners,” Gaunt said.
“That’s right, sir,” Plower replied. “The archenemy understands that certain allowances must be made to placate a conquered population and keep it in check. They permit the consented to visit the boneyards, provided they do not break any laws governing religious worship. Of course, no one knows who exactly is interred in any given pit, but it helps some people to be able to pay their respects at a graveside.”
Gaunt closed his eyes briefly. Once again, the abominable foe had surprised him. It was almost an act of humanity to allow public mourning at the mass burials. Or was it merely another way of reminding the people of Gereon how little their lives were worth?
good question. I suspect, though, it's no ta mutually exclusive thing. Chaos as I noted is not stupid in this series, they learn, and they are interested in both the physical and mental/psychological aspects of winning. So sending a complex, multi-tiered message would be in line with that - on the surface it makes conquest easier, but it also reinforces the 'new order' and position of things (EG you're nothing in the greater scheme.)
Gaunt's reflection of the enemy's humanity is interesting both for his own evolving perception of Chaos (and the breaking of preconceptions) but it also reflects that fundamental naivete, since he doesnt think about it as a Commissar (EG A manipulator.) I expect Hark would grasp it, because this is a fundamental point that agian shows the Imperium and Chaos may not be that different at times (the Imperium certainly employs various methods to oppress and strateify its society, especailyl reinforcing that underclass. Gaunt's optimism clearly keeps him from seeing that.)



PAge 187
“It’s an expression of the warp,” Plower said. “That’s what I was told. The archenemy has branded our world in every way, even the atmosphere. A glyf is the way Chaos makes its mark on the very air. A glyf is a thought, a concept an idea… an utterance of the Ruinous Powers somehow conjured into solid form. Some say they’re sentient. I don’t believe that. Glyfs are Chaos runes, sigils, symbols, whatever you want to call them. The ordinals summon them into being and release them to watch over the populace. They drift, they patrol, they lurk…”
“Great,” cut in Curth sourly. “But what do they do? ”
Plower looked at her. “I suppose you could describe them as tripwires. Sensors. Alarms. They react to human activity. I’ve no idea how. Certainly, they respond to imagos. If they detect anything unconsented, they… they react. They summon.”
This gets back to an idea I mentioned earlier - thta the very atmosphere of the planet could be tainted. This basically confirms it. The warp, chaos, permeates every facet of the world - air, ground, water... everything. And that taint takes many and varies forms, and the glyf is the tangible symbol of the air being tainted (possesesd perhaps.) But its not just a symbol, it serves a functional role as a and detection/alarm system, as described. They can also fuck with minds - mesmerize, manipulate, inspire fear or paralysis. This is one of several ways (the others being stuff like wirewolves) showing that while Chaos and the Imperium may have similarities, they are also fundamentally different in many ways as well.



Page 189
He felt a hot pain in his belly, as if a white-hot skewer had been rammed through it. Then he felt his feet leave the ground. He was flying…
Flying backwards. Impact recoil snapped through his body like a whip-crack. For one long, silent moment, Acreson saw glittering drops of blood drift lazily up into the air before him.
His own blood.
Acreson hit the ground hard in a concussive blur of pain and sudden real-time. The las-lock bolt had blown clean through his belly and thrown him three metres backwards. Down the narrow street, summoned by the glyf, a pack of excubitors was running forward, weapons raised.
las-lock bolt puts an implied hole through a human torso, with significant 'knockdown'. Again we could apply this to either a 'pain laser' style effect, or it may be the effect (for example) of explosive vaporization creating a recoil effect. He's knocked 3 metres in a subjective matter of seconds, Assuming 1500 m/s 'exhaust' and 40 kg*m/s (half m/s velocity implied) 27 grams of flesh vaporized and 30 kj of KE. If we figure 100-150 kg*m/s (a little over a meter or two per second maybe, depending on mass) at same exhaust you get between 67-100 grams vaporized, and a KE between 75-113 kj. Vaping 27 grams is ~61 kj. vaporizing 67 grams is 151 kj, and vaping 100 grams is 225-250 kj at leat.
By contrast putting a single hole through the torso alone with bleeding (1-2 cm diameter) shoudl be a mere 5-10 kj or thereabouts, and that permits some ovepenetration. In any event one should note that las-locks by FFG stats are single shot and more powerful than lasweapons (modified lasguns really with a less efficient power cell), but this novel may imply otherwise (referring to them as 'light muskets' for example elsewhere.)



Page 190
. A las-lock bolt took off Lefivre’s right earlobe and another dug a searing gouge through his left shoulder.
..
A passing bolt lased off his left shin and burst the meat of his calf.
laslock fire again. IT suggests it blows apart at least the back of the wound (which is conisstent with how lasfire works elsehwere in the ghosts novels, a bit like a fragmenting or tumbling round.) At least single digit kj for the shin/calf thing, although it could imply it blew off a significant portion of the leg depending on how one defines shin and the extent of the calf blasted too. And the angle of penetration.
The other injuries could be easily single digit kj.


Page 190
The man’s hands, belly and lap were soaked with blood. Ghastly black and purple spools of entrail were pushing out of Acreson’s exploded stomach.
Further clarifcation of the torso injury that blew a guy 3 metres backwards from a laslock bolt. His interior is not badly burnt, and his organs don't seem to be significantly ruptured, although the hole is big enough his entrais (intestines?) are spilling out and his stomach is 'exploded'. Depending on how one defines that, it might be a small intestine or the large intestine, we might get a hole larger than a few cm.. 5-10 cm perhaps? That would mean more energy (double digit kj at least to blow through torso) and more blood and could provide the kickback described I suppose, although I'm not rulilng out PEP like effects and there is the favct (As I noted) no organs seem to be obviously pulped (intestines are seemingly intact at least.) which could suggest that even if the hole is larger, its not massively larger. Still even at 4-5 cm we might expect a good 20-40 kj per shot, depending on depth and degree of penetration.



Page 190
Several more excubitors toppled and died. The rest were driven back, trying to reload their slow, single-shot light muskets.
Las-locks described as 'light muskets'


Page 193-194
On the stark gibbet, the ball lightning frothed and bubbled, brighter than any sun. Warp-light shone out of it. The lightning mass sputtered and then began to drip down from the cross-beam like lava, like molten, white-hot rock, pouring down into the hollow metal puppets, filling them with light.
The wired puppets twitched as they filled. Metal segments ground against each other. Wires hummed like charged cables. The air temperature in Wheathead plunged. Frost powdered the roof tiles and the muddy streets became stiff with ice.
The wirewolves woke.
The glyf had summoned them. Arcane practices had made the space above the gibbet thin so that the immaterium could finger its way through the aether when the correct command came. Now the crude metal puppets, engineered to contain the energies of the warp and coalesce them, vibrated into life.
There were two of them. They took the form of men simply because the puppets had been fashioned to bottle them in that shape. Jerking spastically from their wires, they looked like ancient knights in full plate armour, illuminated from within by the brightest lanterns ever lit. The suspending wires shivered and sang, taut with power.
The puppet hosts had not been fashioned well. Just crude metal shoes, shin-guards, thigh plates, hauberks. Hungry radiance speared out through the gaps and chinks of joints and seams. The arm sections jerked. Light speared out through the helmet eyeslits as bright as a Land Raider’s stablights.
The arms of the puppets were unfinished. Shoulder plates, metal sections for upper and lower arms. They had no gloves or hands. The supporting wires suspended loose bouquets of razor-sharp steel blades from the forearm cuffs that tinkled together as the rising wind stirred them. Intending, controlled by governing magicks scratched into the armour, the baleful light sprouted from the wrists and made long, crackling claw shapes of solid light into which those blades became embedded like fingernails.
Wirewolves. They seem to be some sort of chaos construct, some sort of intelligence or warp entity summed into/bound to inanimate structures. They remind me quite a bit of the Brass Thief from Ravenor, or any number of Chaos constructs (daemons bound to swords, vehicles, etc.) Thousand Sons marines spiritually bound to their armour, Eldar Wraithguard/Wraithlords, and so on and so forth.
It is also mentioned that they are often 'dormant' as when active thy expend a great deal of energy and cannot be active for long periods of time (which is consistent with many forms of daemonic or chaotic summoning - its time in realspace is limited without a constant connection to the warp) and when dormant (eG not possessing the mannequins) they are drawn back into the warp.



Page 198
It sliced around with its savage claws. Acreson’s head flopped sideways, his neck almost severed. The claws bit deep and lightning seethed. A violet glow suffused the body of the cell fighter. In a second, Acreson was reduced to a skeleton, coated in blue-white ash, his exposed bones smoking.
..
But the second one had slithered up at Lefivre’s right hand. It didn’t strike. It reached out with its claws and the smoking blades sank into Lefivre’s shoulder.
He shuddered. His mouth opened in pain. A violet aura lit up around his body.
Then his flesh evaporated in a drizzle of blue dust and his blackened, cooked bones clattered onto the pathway.
Wirewolve claws seem to carry enough warp energy to cremate (or seemingly cremate) human bodies.. or at least the fleshy bits. Hundreds of megajoules at least.



Page 201
Once in a lifetime, an officer came along who was worth following. Call it love, call it respect, call it duty, it was something about the man that made you want to push yourself, right to the limit even in the face of horror. Ballerat had been that sort of man, Throne rest him. And Gaunt was that kind too. Landerson had seen the look in the faces of Varl and Curth, Beltayn and Larkin. That was all he had needed to know.
It could very well be said this sums up what the Ghosts represent in this book, contrasted with the 'rampant individualism/self worship' as represented by Chaos in this novel (which is itself an irony, because the Chaos forces in this book are trying to make a force LIKE the Imperial Guard.) One of the older 'novel' themes in stuff like Eye of Terror or Pawns of Chaos or the Inquisition War was that the Imperium and humanity represented a bastion of order and unity contrasted with the individualism and freedom/entropy of Chaos, and in this way we see that personified in the Ghosts. Positive, binding forces like love, loyalty, brotherhood and even discipline all come together to make them stronger together than they are separate, which in a way is very symbolic of the way Abnett portrays the Guard in the Crusade fighting against chaos. Not that its absolute this way, since there are plenty of selfish fucks in the Guard (another key part of this novel) and there are some pretty noble and likable chaos characters (as we learn) who are also capable of self sacrifice and discipline (more the tragedy.) But there is very much that 'order vs chaos' thing present in this book (and indeed the series) and much of that stems from Gaunt's ability to unify, inspire, and lead.



Page 203
He watched in quiet wonder as a lone man, armed only with an exhausted rifle, fought hand to hand with a daemon from the warp, blocking, striking, sweeping, stabbing. Mkvenner’s movements were like some violent ballet. He was matching the thing’s every blow, every slice, fending it off, driving it back, avoiding every lethal hook it swung at him with sheer agility and grace.
Mkvenner (briefly) is able to match and fend off a Wirewolf, again pointing to his 'more than human' capabilities, seemingly.


Page 205-206
Gaunt had seen what the cannon shots had done to the arm of one of them. Already, the wirewolf seemed to be moving more sluggishly, its inner light dimmer. Gaunt remembered Landerson saying, back in Ineuron Town, that the things used up their power quickly.
..
The taut wires snapped. Its containment armour now entirely broken open, the wirewolf released its channelled energy.
Break the vessel containing the Wirewolf, and giving it form, and it will dissipate back into the warp as its energy is released. Not unlike breaking a container holding any sort of material. Heck its the same principle as getting rid of a daemon - destroy the host and it disappears. Incidentally before figuring this out, the Wirewolves stood up to multiple sustained lasbursts, Larkin's long las, and Brostin's autocannon (save for an arm blown off by the last when it severed the wires)



Page 209
The inhibitor solution contained a number of compounds manufactured by the Departmento Medicae to counteract the effects of warp-contact on the human metabolism. The fluid they were suspended in was blessed water from the Balneary Shrine of Herodor.
In less technical sounding terms, they basically use holy water and magic stuff (well probably magic stuff from the compounds) to negate the effects of Chaos on a human body. Also quite good at banishing the daemonic it seems, as Curth uses it to destroy a wirewolf.



PAge 220-221
“The other life-wards available for assignment. They would not… treat you as well as I do. They would make your life harder. Don’t let them. I have grown to like you, pheguth. I would hate to see you… discomforted.”
..
“I can’t. The truth is, I have grown to like you too. You look after me, Desolane. You understand me. I couldn’t begin to hurt you.”
“But… please, pheguth…?”
“If it’s so important to you, take off your own digit. I couldn’t possibly do something that coarse.”
This is part of a larger scene, but basically the 'pheguth' was the target of an assasination attempt, and Desolane (his protector) was threatened removal for allowing it to happen unless he was mutilated (or killed) as punishment. It shows, in a twisted, messed up way, that even Chaos is capable of loyalty and affection (which isn't a great shock really, as they're all emotions of some kind or another) albeit in a way that is alien and even abhorrent to our way of thinking. And that's totally consistnet - think of Nurgle in his 'Papa Nurgle' guys.. he's a bit sadistic but still loving and supportive of his 'children' - whom he inflicts pain on. We get a bit of that here, really.



Page 227
“Subject one, Lord Uexkull, masses five hundred and thirty-three—”
Implied weight of CSM. We dont know the unit, but given the implicaiton is of metric units before, we could probably say kilograms.
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The conclusion of Traitor General

Page 228
"It is not tenable land. Compared to the crop production of, say, the Lectica bocage, which runs at an annual average of eight billion bushels per—”

Bushel as a unit of weight can mean (broadly speaking) anything between 14 and 27 kg approximately. 8 billion bushels is 112 and 216 billion kg - hundreds of millions of tons, per.. however long. Since its probably dictated on growth cycles, something on the order of a year or less, probably. And thats just for one region. I suspect you could argue billions of tons of crop annually as an estimate for a world - a Chaos held world at least, one assumes an Imperial world could achieve a similar magnitude.



Page 234
The principal language of the Imperium was Low Gothic, with a few regional variations, and the stylised High Gothic was used by the Church, and other bodies such as the Inquisition, for formal records, proclamations and devotions. All strands had their roots in a proto-Gothic that had been the language of mankind in the early Ages of Expansion. Like most well-educated men, Gaunt had been required to study Old Gothic as part of his schooling.
Comment on the Gothic language and its origins and broad variations.



Page 236
At first sight at least, he appeared to be essentially human.
That made him no less frightening. He was tall, a head taller than either Gaunt or Mkvenner, the tallest members of the party. He would have towered over even Colm Corbec or Bragg, Throne rest the both of them. But as much as he was tall, he was thin.
Tall but thin human. Ludicrously tall. Probably close to or over 3 m, but not as Bragg Bulky due to the emaciation, I gather.



Page 240
The transcoding was finally unlocking the shackles that the psykers of the Imperial Commisariate had placed on his oh-so-valuable mind. The pheguth had known how much of his memory had been repressed by the mindlock, and very little of that had been recovered yet, but he hadn’t realised how much of his own self had been repressed too.
The Pheguth's mind was 'mindlocked'. Its still vaguely defined here, but apparently it involves psykers (By the commisariate) to suppress vital memories or information in the mind (ora t least make it inaccessible, even to the person themselves.) Whether it was a security precuation for all officers, or done as a punishment to a sensitive prisoner, we don't know (Yet).



Page 244-245
“The assassins were men from the Occupation force, sir. Men whose loyalty to the Archon exceeds their loyalty to his lieutenant, Great Sek. You are considered by some to be a heresy and a monster of the enemy that should not be entertained in any wise. In short, sir, you are still an Imperial general to them, and that makes you a target.”
“I have renounced the Imperium of Man. I am a traitor general.”
“I know that, sir. But many believe… what’s bred in the bone. Some individuals loyal to the Archon fear you’ll betray him by aiding the Great Sek. Others simply cannot understand why a man who has made a career out of fighting us can now be watered and fed as a friend.”
“But you understand, don’t you, Mabbon?” Mabbon nodded. “Yes, sir. I understand, because I am a traitor myself.”
Interesting, isn't it? Whilst the Blood Pact are notable for their emulation of the Guard, this shows that its quite possible for Chaos itself - or Chaos forces at least - to be quite similar to the Imperials they fight against in many ways. Likewise, they can have special understanding (as well as the lack) due to those experiences and connections. Yet again we see another Chaos agent who seems to be forming a rapport with an Imperial (or former Imperial.) officer.



Page 250
"The Nalsheen existed, sir. Right up until the day Tanith died. They continued their traditions in the remote woods, passing on the lore of cwlwhl from father to son. There were very few of them, but they had sworn to keep the brotherhood alive in case tyranny ever rose again on Tanith. My family line has been Nalsheen as far back as records go.”
..
“I was trained from an early age, three or four, I think. I was taken to the old master in the nalwoods by my father, and the lore was passed to me. The fighting skills, the woodcraft, the faith itself. And the language. The Nalsheen had always used the old form of Gothic as their private tongue. The same language the first woodsmen spoke when they settled Tanith in the Early Times.”
..
“Right. Are you Nalsheen, Mkvenner?”
“No, sir. I have many of their skills and craft, but I never finished my training. "
We learn Mkvenner's secret. He's not Nalsheen (Tanith version of KAsrkin or CAtachan Devil I suppose, elite even by Scout standards.) but he's got enough of their training to almost be one. The last 'Jedi' so to speak lol.



Page 252
“A natural well,” Brostin said. “Gushing up from the silt. Raw, mind you, not synthesised. My guess is the moth-freaks built this camp at a place where they could dredge up fuel for burning.”
..
“Besides, just look at the oil patterns on the water there. Like a rainbow, they are. That’s crude prom, coming up from the deposits. "
Naturally occuring Space Oil, in liquid form. :P



Page 255
“Toxin levels at eight point one on the Fabius scale."
Fabius Bile seems to have a toxin scale named after him :P


Page 258
“The mood swings. The intolerance. It’s all part of the Chaos taint here. It’s infecting us. Changing us. Rawne’s at your throat. Cirk is completely off her chuff.”
“Who did you test?” Gaunt asked.
"Me,” she replied. Tears welled in her eyes. “I hit her because… because it’s in me now. It’s making me… different… It’s making me violent. It’s affecting our hormones. Altering them, boosting some of the repressed aggressional—”
We learn about what 'taint' by the planet actually can encompass. Its not just mental corruption in metaphsyical ways, its as physical as any sort of mutation or corruption- changing chemistry and biology. That really appeals to me, for some reason, rather than just saying 'Chaos makes you crazy'.
Gaunt also hugs Curth and comforts her in a very un-Commisarial manner. He does this a few times, and even fucks Cirk thinking its Curth. I smell a new love interest!


Page 266
Chaos Space Marines. The most grotesque, most powerful warriors in the archenemy’s host. Imperial Guard didn’t fight Space Marines. They left that job to the superhuman Astartes, for the simple reason that there was precious little a Guardsman could do that would even annoy a Chaos Marine. On the battlefield, brigades of well-armed Guardsmen regularly fell back in rout when even a few Chaos Marines appeared.
I find this.. more than a bit of an exaggeration. For one thing Gaunt has faced CSM with his Ghosts not once but several times, including groups, and defeated them without being routed or having whole brigades flee. Heck lasfire of many kinds has taken them down. I attribute this mindset more towards the psychological aspects of CSM and Space Marines - the advantages they derive from being viewed as the most powerful/badass things in the galaxy.



Page 267
Ceramite armour could withstand just about anything… lasfire, bolt rounds, even cannon shot But it was like paper to the powered blade. Gaunt’s lacerating blow cut through Nezera’s chest plating, through the torso inside, and out through the spine in a fog of gore His body half-severed at mid-rib height Nezera stumbled, amazed, his system trying to manage the pain and repair the traumatic damage.
It was far too grievous.
Power armour resistance doesn't extend to GAunt's magic sword, and he nearly bisects a CSM.



Page 269
Drawing a poisoned iron quarrel from his quiver satchel, each partisan dropped the projectile down the snout of his bow’s barrel and then shouldered the weapon to fire. The bows made no sound, just a whistle of release as they launched the iron darts with huge force.
Magnetics, Gaunt realised. The heavy lobes on the end of each bent-back bow arm were powerful magnets. They sucked the quarrels down into the weapon and, at a flick of the trigger, the charged polarity reversed and spat them out. Simple, perfect.
But utterly useless against Chaos Marines in full armour, Marines who could gland against toxins if they took a scratch.
The local (primitive) Anti-Imperial secessionists use EM powered crossbow-like weapons. 40K version sof bowcasters basically without the magic energy bolt. Or a primitive needler Gaunt refers to them as an 'energised launcher' early on, suggesting there is a class of weapons like that he might be familiar with.



Page 271
Larkin caught it neatly and smacked home a hotshot pack. If anything could dent a Chaos Marine’s armour, it was a high-yield hotshot. Larkin knew he’d have to place it right. Between the plate joints. That’s the one chance he had.
Funny, in First and Only his long las had little problem penetrating (and injuring) CSM through its body armour. Anyhow it implies CSM armour is resistant even to htoshot rounds.



Page 273
Range was almost point-blank. The searing round took the Chaos Marine’s head clean off.
Hotshot headsplodes CSM. At least double digit KJ maybe, as CSM heads are many times bigger and tougher htan normal human heads. Note rather curiously this Tanith hotshot round seems similar in effect to max power lasgun shots (EG the Vitrian lasguns in First and Only.)



PAge 275
The partisan pulling at her smiled. Then he vanished from the chest up in a boiling cloud of blood and tissue. His ruined corpse fell over to one side.
CSM bolter. Note that the shot may literally boil, or that could be experssions of speech. Figure at least high kj at least. If literal bioiling megajoules.



PAge 275
The Marine’s armoured gauntlets were immense, each one big enough to enclose her head, and strong enough to crush it like a berry.
Size of CSM hands.



Page 276
Varl appeared from somewhere. He grabbed the Marine’s fallen bolter and raised it, grunting under the weight of the thing. Varl jammed the fat muzzle up under the lip of the warrior Marine’s helmet.
And fired.
Varl kept his finger depressed. The huge, antique weapon shook as it emptied its clip, threatening to knock him down with its gigantic recoil. He braced against it, his augmetic shoulder locking in place.
On the fifth shot, the Marine’s helmet began to deform and buckle from within.
On the seventh, the helmet burst. Varl, Criid and the now headless Marine were saturated in the glistening material that sprayed out. Small shards of helmet metal tinkled down around them.
Seven bolter shots to headsplode helmeted CSM. seems mostly up to the helmet and possibl orientaion.



PAge 284
He tried to put the nagging fear aside. His mind felt clear and true. He felt fine. But wasn’t that how it always started? Men weren’t drawn to the madness of Chaos because it seemed like a viable lifestyle change. The clammy influence of the Ruinous Powers wormed inside a man, changed him slowly and subtly without him ever realising it, making the insanity of the warp-darkness seem like the most natural thing in the cosmos.
All his life, as a commissar, Gaunt had understood that. That was why a commissar had to be so vigilant. And so harsh. Right to the end, on Herodor, Agun Soric had seemed like the most reasonable, loyal man. Gaunt had trusted him, loved his spirit, adored his simple courage.
But the man had gone over. The mark of the psyker had been in him. There had been no choice but to send him to the black ships.
Gaunt had dutifully read all the scholarly texts as a young man, and still reread many. Some of them, like the poetic philosophy of his favourite, Ravenor, writing nearly half a century earlier, had implanted this understanding in his mind. Especially where Ravenor wrote so eloquently, so heartbreakingly, about the fall of his master, Eisenhorn. Gregor Eisenhorn’s ultimate, terrible fate was an object lesson in the seductive power of the warp.


Page 285-286
They had been fighting secessionists, not Chaos, and there was great debate as to the appropriate punishment of the prisoners taken. Several commissars urged a thorough purge and a programme of execution. Commissar-General Oktar had argued for a different way. More lenient.
“Let us be firm, but let us re-educate. Blood is not always the answer.”
..
“My boy,” he said at length — he had always referred to Gaunt as “Boy”. “My boy, if we execute everyone who disagrees with us, the galaxy will quickly become an empty place.”
..
A few short years after the Darendara Liberation, the new governing council — many of them politicos spared thanks to Oktar’s mercy — had formed a new allegiance and renewed their vows to the Imperium. Darendara was now one of the most staunchly loyal worlds in its subsector. Oktar’s views had been vindicated.
Gaunt's recollections about Oktar's way, which shows his 'humanitarian' side of things. Although Gaunt is (comparatively speaking) more radical, it shows that like every other Imperial organization, the Commissars can have their own sides of the spectrum - their 'radicals' as well as their puritans. The latter would be represented by the 'use terror and intimidation and summary execution to keep people in line' - absolutes in other words, whilst the 'radicals' would be those who focus on leading and inspiration (like Gaunt.) I expect the manipulators and psychological types would fall somewhere in between the extremes. Not quite humanitarian, but not quite authoritarian either, but one or the other or both as the situation requires.
Oktar's method does have its obvious advantages as well (very psychological) as it can help make the population more compliant and willing. It's also another irony given what we've learned about the Sabbat Worlds Archenemy and their penchant for learning and adapting and even playing similar psychological games with conquered populations (EG the mourners and boneyards that Gaunt found 'humanitarian' in his enemy.)


Page 286
Brostin, his cannon destroyed, had been busy all night fiddling with the flamer that one of the Chaos Marines had been carrying. It was a crude thing and, in truth, rather too large and bulky to be carried by anyone without the support of power armour. But he persevered, stripping it of all but the basics, and chiselling away the more offensive Chaos symbols and badges. Finally, he fashioned a shoulder harness from some of the severed lengths of platform cable to distribute its weight. He practised lugging it around, and quickly decided he could only manage one of the three fuel canisters the Marine had carried.
..
..he had waded out from the platforms and filled the canister from the natural well.
Brostin has adapted a flamer from a CSM's weapon. The bit about it 'being too heavy to carry' without power armor isn't a shock (except that I know someone like Bragg would be able to) so it has to be cleansed of evil symbols and cut down for human use. The interesting thing is that the essential systems of the flamer seem man portable, which makes you wonder what was removed to make it easier to lift.
Brostin also uses only one of three flamer tanks, suggesting CSM flamers have 3x the capacity of normal ones. If we figure around 15-25 kg for Brostin's tank, the CSM might be somewhera round 50-80 kg total.
The flamer evidently can also run on raw unrefined promethium with reasonable effectiveness (rathe than the jellied shit, unless Brostin knows how to make it so on the fly.) which again shows the versatility of Imperial tech.


Page 290-291
"The Blood Pact is a superb fighting force. To be a commander in their ranks, to be an etogaur, it was all the honour a man might hope for.”
..
"He impressed me at once. He has great personal charm, you see. A ferocious intelligence. The insight to see what needs to be done and the ability to accomplish it. Archon Gaur is a matchless leader in so many ways, but what he achieves, he achieves by brute force. He is a killer of worlds, a dominator, a feral thing. Not once in all the years that I served him as etogaur did he listen to my thoughts or even solicit my opinions. He takes no advice. On many occasions, officer-commanders of the Blood Pact, myself included, were ordered to engage in rash and costly actions at his whim. I’ve lost many men that way, been forced to send units to their deaths, even when I could plainly see a better way of defeating the forces of the False Emperor. When Archon Gaur gives an order, there is no opportunity for discussion.”
..
“Great Sek is different,” Mabbon continued, “He possesses subtlety, and actively looks to his commanders for suggestions and ideas that he can incorporate into his strategy.”
We get a bit more elaboration on why a Blood Pact officer has betrayed Gaur and works with Sek because Gaur's sole distinction is the Blood Pact. In othre ways he is just as arbitrary, authoritarian as any other Chaos Leader. No subtelty, no versatility, just force. And like others (innokenti, Sholen Skara, etc.) he dictates as much by whim as by practicality. Unlike Sek, which just goes to show that Sek may very well be the Archon the Imperium does NOT want coming to the fore, as he would be a truly formidable enemy who could weld the Chaos troops into an effective force. Indeed, the infighting and 'cult of personality' stuff is perhaps one of the advantages the Imperium can exploit.
Its also mentioned that Sek admires Macaroth for his audacity and willingness to gamble and considers him a worthy adversary he is eager to meet.
Another interesting thing here is we have two traitors, one Imperial Guard, one Blood Pact, who are coming to a rapport over similar backgrounds and even similar reasons, which shows that the Imperiuma nd Chaos may not be all that different. Indeed it echoes alot of previous Abnett works like Eisenhorn and Ravenor and their Chaos coils (Glaw and Moloch.) It also (once again) Shows that Chaos cannot be underestimated or dismissed too lightly, because Chaos is unpredictable and quite capable of adapting or employing new tactics that the enemy may not expect if they aren't watching.


Page 291
prospect of matching his prowess against Macaroth’s directly, when the time is right.”
“You make it sound like a game of regicide!” the pheguth laughed.
Mabbon looked at him. “A bigger board, a billion more pieces, and those pieces alive, but…” The etogaur smiled.
Implies the scale of the SWC conflict is on the order of a billion forces. Whether that is just on one side, or both sides together, or the blood pact, we dont know. Hundreds of millions or billions implied, anyhow.



Page 292
"We are not the simple brutes you Imperials seem to think, sir. We are not beyond politicking and intrigue We will disguise and misdirect, and behind those lies, build our forces. The rest the dangerous part, can wait. It may be years until Sek is ready to make his move. We have years. This war is old, and it isn’t going anywhere.”
This reflects, I think, that whole 'cult of personality' thing that drives many of the Sabbat Worlds archenemy forces and have commented on, but its also a reflection of their similarities to the Imperium. The Imperium politics and maneouvres, and so does Chaos. Albeit I think chaos is far more brutal by contrast, and often to its own detriment (the mention of Gaur's whims, Innokenti's obsession with the Saint at Herodor, etc.)
I also have to note that a big difference is that with the Sons of Sek, their training is.. brutal. They mention massacring villages wher rebel cells might be held as means of training/blooding the troops.



Page 294
“The Gaur based the Blood Pact formation on the structure principles of the Imperial Guard,” Mabbon explained. “But he did not duplicate all aspects. The Blood Pact has no equivalent of the… what is the word?”
“Commissars?”
“Exactly. This is something my magister seeks to correct in the Sons. The scourgers have been selected from veteran units, and are trained separately from the Sons, along with my officer cadre. The scourgers’ duties are discipline, education and morale.”
..
The pheguth watched as one burly scourger lashed a man’s back with his whip for slacking, and then turned and gently advised another on technique. Just like the bloody commissars, he thought, one hand teaching, one hand striking.
More on the duality of Commissars, carrot and stick, inspiration and intimdiation. The Pact didn't copy that, but Sek intends to.


Page 317-318
“What do you understand of the mindlock?"
..
“It is a standard provision. In cases where a subject knows sensitive information. The guild can blank a man’s mind entirely, but that does not allow for any future recovery of his memory.”
“Your mind is full of secrets, Noches,” the male voice said. “Intelligence of the highest level of confidentiality. Why would they not have just blanked you?”
..
“I was being prepared for trial. Court martial. The Commissariate did not want my mind wiped, because I would not be able to face their cross-examination. But until the trial date, it was considered too risky to leave me… accessible. The Guild Astropathicus placed the mindlock on me, securing my secrets. They intended to remove it at the time of the trial.”
..
“I hated it. I implored them not to do it. But they did it anyway. It was monstrous. Numbing. Afterwards, I had no idea what they’d done. Just the nagging memory that something barbaric had been accomplished in my mind. It took everything away. I’m only now just understanding quite how much was stolen.”
The mindlock described, and Guard procedures for high ranking criminals. They can blank it out if they need to, but then its lost, whereas mindlocking allows it to be accesssed at a later date. Sort of like the difference between erasing data, and encrypting it.


Page 319
“Doesn’t the Commissariate ordinarily perform summary executions?” the child-voice asked.
“On low-lifes and dog-troops. Not on lord militant generals. My family has powerful connections to the High Lords. There would have been uproar if he’d taken my life.”
Politics even influences the Guard.

Page 322
“Reynbow, beyit,"
..A rain-bow, to rain quarrels on the heads of the enemy. Gaunt smiled.
the mag bow is a 'rain bow' lol;


Page 331-332
Ibram Gaunt took dreams seriously. He believed they were the only conduit through which the God-Emperor could make his purpose understood to the common man. Gaunt hadn’t always thought that way, but the visions that had led him and the Ghosts to Herodor had been so real, he now regarded every single dream as a message.
Gaunt again has changed and is a believer in signs and portents since Herodor. No more doubting for him. Indeed dreams seem to be a big part of what is driving him (and the other ghosts) in this book and this mission, and provide hints what may be coming up, as well as carrying ove rthe mysticism and sense of destiny from the previou scycle.


Page 336
Over the years, he’d read many reports of the archenemy mass-planting xeno-crops on captured agri-worlds like Gereon. Highly resistant to disease and climate, perhaps hybridised for accelerated growth, these plantations rapidly tripled or quadrupled the planet’s crop yield, but at huge cost to the planet’s eco-sphere. After a few decades of xenoculture, the planet would be left barren and infertile, all the organics stripped from the topsoil. He wondered if Cirk had any idea what these plantations would mean for the future of her world.
Like the jehgenesh, the xeno-agriculture reflects that earlier sentiment that they 'use' worlds fully.. as much (or more) than the Imperium does (strip mining, etc.) Again it reflects that odd 'similar yet different' mentality that threads throughout this book. It also suggests Chaos agriculture is not significantly less than Imperial, given the prior 'bushels' statement.


Page 342-343
Beltayn switched on his set’s power pack, made an adjustment to its dials, then crossed back to the big machine. He tentatively pressed several keys on the main console and, as gauges glowed amber and needles quivered, he started to scroll down through a column of data presented in trembling graphic form on a small sub-screen.
...
Yep, I’ve got it. The transmission log. How much do you want?”
“How much is there?”
..
"...about eight months at least. It’ll take a while to get all that.”
“How long are we talking?”
Beltayn shrugged. “Probably five, ten minutes per week.”
..
...information began to stream down the connector into the set’s recording buffer.
Beltayn's field vox can download and store at least eight months of vox transmissions, and transfer at a rate of one week every 5-10 minutes. If we assume each 'week' is simply comprised of one word thats 10,000 words or so a second at least. even assuming a mere ten bytes of data, thats 100 kilobytes of data per second. Not exactly super fast by modern standards, but I'm also lowballing it :P
Atlernately. 8 months is 32-34 weeks roughly, which translates to 317,000-350,000 minutes of vox. If we figure still 1 vox per minute, and 10 bytes per vox thats 3.2 million-3.5 million bytes at least. Again lowballing probably.


Page 343
“It’s got a security lockout. The cipher needs a key to start it running.”
“A code?”
“No, an actual key. Goes in here.”
Security measures against encryption.


Page 351
“Say hello to Mister Yellow,” Brostin murmured, and struck his match
God I didn't connect this in the Munitorum Manual until I reread the book. Made me laugh, as they make a reference to that explicitly as a 'danger sign' of an arsonist-flamer operator.


Page 357
Mkoll sat beside one of the drum-fires, carefully sliding the power cells of the team’s lasrifles into the flames. Every team member was low on energy munitions, and though cells were simple enough to recharge, the local power supply was less than reliable. Exposing a cell’s thermal receptor to heat in a fire was a drastic but effective method of recharging. However, it shortened the life of the power packs badly. Mkoll was resigned to that. He had a feeling their life expectancy was down to days now, if not hours.
The commonly known fact that las cells can be recharged via fireplace, or any sort of power supply as long as it has the right connector/adaptor. Oddly, other than 'shortening life' (recycles I imagine) it has no other effects as we know about in the uplifting primer (reducing power pack capacity, etc.) Perhaps some power packs can be specially adapted/modified to take advantage of this with minimal consequence? Or maybe Mkoll neglected to think of it.
We dont know how long they recharged, but perhaps overnight. Assuming an arbitrary 10-100 watts that would be 432 kj to 4.32 MJ


Page 358-359
“I don’t think it does destroy us,” Mkvenner said thoughtfully,
..
“Chaos. We’re warned so often that the taint of the Ruinous Powers destroys a man like a disease. But that’s not what it feels like, is it?”
“What are you talking about, Ven? I feel sick to my bones.”
“It’s changing us,” Mkvenner said. “That’s what it does. That’s why it’s so… dangerous. Look at Rawne.”
..
“Rawne’s never trusted anyone. Now the taint’s got to him, it’s brought that part of him to the forefront. Magnified it. He’s paranoid now. You can see that. So jumpy. And Doctor Curth. She was always hard-nosed, but she also always kept her outrage at the cost of war shut away, so she could concentrate on saving lives. Chaos is letting all that hidden anger out like a flash flood. Beltayn too. The lad’s always had a cocky streak he works to keep in check. Now he’s answering back and wising off. And you…”
..
You’re finally saying to Rawne all the things you always wanted to. Chaos doesn’t destroy us, it finds the things that were always there inside us and brings them out. The ugliness, the flaws, the worst parts of us. That’s why mankind should really fear it. It brings out the worst in us, but the worst is already there.”
I like this. I like it alot. Its a very 'classic' view of how Chaos is, something beyond a very simple good/evil dynamic, and I think its something this book has done a good job of reinforcing. Opposition to chaos isn't 'good' vs 'evil', because Chaos has some positive sides (as we learn) and the Imperium has negative sides, but there are still things worth fighting for or against.. unity and brotherhood for example. Fighting to protect others, and really fighting against your own darker nature. Its more about self control than vanquishing the enemy, in that respect.
Its also an interesting example of how the Imperium rules itself by absolutes (and preconception) by simplifying that change down to 'evil' or 'destroying' when it simply means it changes people (for the worse, usually it can be admitted) and is simply 'different' from the Imperial way of thinking.
The whole notion of 'nature of Chaos and what it does to people' is a strong element to this arc. In 'His Last Command' the first part of the book is the Imperium dealing with Gaunt's return years after this mission and it isn't plesaant.


Page 359
Beltayn was scrolling through the transmission log he’d copied out of the archenemy’s voxcaster. The set’s display screen was small, and he was straining to make out the data. “It’s decrypted, but I’m still having to run everything through the set’s translator system, and you know how hopeless that is. Only a rudimentary grasp of the enemy language forms. Loads of words are coming up as not found.”
Apparently field voxes come with not just a storage capacity, but also a translator and/or spell check :P


Page 359
“How much did you get?” Larkin asked.
“Just the last week’s worth, but that alone is thousands of transcripts. I’m going through the record of the enemy’s primary data-broadcasts first."
One week consists of 'thousands' of transcripts. and it seems to include data as well as audio broadcasts Again that implies I was probably lowballing things quite a bit :P


Page 362
Gaunt hesitated. “After all he had done, Cirk, I think I wanted him to suffer. I wanted him to endure the humiliation of a court martial, of public disgrace. A simple, summary execution on the field of battle, something quite within my power to exact, would have been too easy. Besides, the commissar in me could see the political value of a court martial. The public disgrace, trial and execution of a lord general would send out a message to any other over-zealous, over-ambitious commander that the new Warmaster was not someone to be trifled with."
Gaunt explains why he didn't summarily execute Sturm (who if one hasn't guessed is the traitor). I can buy the whole 'show trial' bit, because thats' in line with Commisarial propoganda and psychology shit, but I think Gaunt is downplaying the personal reasons, the whole 'wanting him to suffer.' Sturm was responsible for killing 500 Tanith, and probably getting even more killed at Verghast. As we've seen throughout the books Gaunt is not forgiving of people who threaten or harm his Ghosts, and he's not very rational about it, either.


Page 386-387
Nearly a tonne of fyceline-putty explosives — the entire combined supplies of the heartland cells — at last went off in the transport’s freight bay.
..
There was a pink haze, bright enough to hurt, and when the hammer blow of sound and shock came a second later, it was so hard it knocked Colonel Noth and many of the cell fighters onto the ground. Some of the underground attackers too close to the truck vaporised with it.
But vast chunks of the bastion’s main gates were atomised too
I suppose whether or not thats equal to or better modern explosives willd epend on how you define 'atomize' or 'vapourise' :P But in the Ghosts novels fyceline is an explosives compound (or part of it) and part of propellant.


Page 395
Brostin bellowed and squeezed the trigger-spoon of his captured flamer. The weapon gurgled, coughed and then sent a dazzling spear of liquid flame out through the doorway into the stairwell.
..
“I’ll clear us a way,” Brostin said, firing through the doorway again.
..
The stone stairwell radiated heat from the torching and soot caked every surface. Smouldering bodies, most of them so reduced by fire they were charcoal lumps, littered the stairs.
Effect of Brostin's improvised flamer. Hard to calc ualte since we dont know how many there are (at least 3, probably more) seem to be heavily or nearly cremated. Not gonna calc it, but I think its safe to say this is far worse than simply bad burns.


Page 397
Larkin nodded, and loaded a fresh cell into his long-las. The powerful hotshot clips each delivered one super-heated shot before they were spent. He was down to his last three.
Hotshot rounds described.


Page 399
Over the months they had spent in close company, often just the two of them alone for days at a time, Desolane had come to care for the pheguth. A bond had grow between them. The pheguth had seemed to Desolane a kindly, sorrowful man, broken down by the harsh hand fortune had dealt him, always respectful of the life-ward, always appreciative of every special attention Desolane paid to make his incarceration more bearable. When the attempt had been made on his life, the pheguth hadn’t blamed Desolane. He’d actually refused to dish out the ritual punishment. It had been then that Desolane had realised the pheguth cared for the life-ward too.
Of course, it had been difficult when the mindlock collapsed, and the pheguth had become Sturm again. Sturm was a pompous, arrogant soul, and he had shown far less respect for the life-ward. But even then, Desolane had been able to see the man it had sworn to protect. The humble pheguth, in his slippers and gown, shackled to a steel bed, smiling as he sipped a cup of weak black tea as if it was the most precious thing in the galaxy.
Desolane would protect its pheguth now. Against anything.
A bit of empathy for a minion of Chaos? the Enemy? HERESY! I think maybe this is, thematically speaking, one of my favorite passages in the book. Even if I'm a freaking Guard fanboy, I can appreciate the implications of this passage. Its possible for even the filthy CHAOS types to have feelings, to have care and respect and even love for someone. Again as Mkvenner said, chaos doesn't destroy you, it changes you, it brings out the worst things in a person. This is often negative things like anger, hate, distrust, jealousy.. but it can also intensify other emotions, loyalty, love, friendship.. and we saw as much of the latter as we saw of the former. The life wards themselves are prime examples of this - minions of chaos.. who can be utterly devoted. Chaos is a paradox, and this is a great example of how that can be the case.
Its also an interesting parallel to the Ghosts.. the Ghosts are fighting this battle for their own personal reasons.. to be human, to amend a wrong (such as Gaunt), out of loyalty (to Gaunt for example), or perhaps like in cRiid's case, to protect her kids (not stated, but I can guess thats why.) which are all reasons we've seen throughout the series.. and echo the sentiments of the life-ward towards Sturm. ITs a very simple, human thing, easy to understand, however horrible Chaos itself can be.
It's also an interesting insight into Sturm's chracter. Despite all the bad shit he's done, his cowardice, his arrogance, his prejudices agains thte Ghosts.. he is still a person too.. and he has positive traits. He is not a caricature in this book, he is a complex person, even up to the end. And Desolate sees some of that value underneath all the bravado and arrogance. The mindlock in a way wasn't just a horror, but also a revelation, as it showed the core being of who and what Sturm is.



Page 400-401
A cell fighter to his left folded as gunfire ripped through her belly. Another man went down howling his leg shot off below the knee.
..
The man beside him reeled sideways, as if caught by a whip. A shot had destroyed his jaw.
Sons of Sek decimating resistance fighters. I dont know if they're firing lasguns or autoguns, but at the very least, single digit kj per shot probably for either.


Page 401
. One of the ochre bastards came right up at him, and Noth shot him apart. Another smashed his bayonet right through the skull of the man at Noth’s side, and Noth put five rounds into the killer’s chest.
Autogun fire again 'shot apart' one of hte Sons, possibly with five rounds or so, depending on context and interpretation.


Page 405
“Ana. We can’t leave her to die.”
“Why the feth not?” Curth asked.
“Because… because otherwise, the archenemy has won.”
..
Rawne coughed the smoke out of his gullet. “She’s helped us, Curth. Every step of the way, without question. She’s got us through, risked her life. Feth it, we wouldn’t have got in here without her. I don’t like her either. I don’t trust her. She’s got the mark. But then again, I don’t think I trust anyone any more.”
..
“Ana,” Rawne whispered. “The taint has got us. The poison of this fething world. You and me both. If we leave Cirk, we let it win.”
Curth stared at him. “That’s rubbish!” she said.
“No, it isn’t. Whatever you or I think she is, she’s got this far. This is our last chance, Ana. Our last chance!”
“Our last chance for what?”
“To prove we’re still human. To prove we’re loyal servants of the Emperor. Even now. Even though Gereon has done its worst.”
..
“You know I’m right,” Rawne replied. “I won’t let this place beat me. How about you?”
“Do the right thing?” she asked sarcastically.
“Because the Emperor protects. And if he approves, he will protect us and let us know he is pleased with our service.”
“You make that shit up all by yourself?” she said.
“No. It was something Gaunt said.”
This is an indicator of just how far Rawne has come up to this point in the series. I think the Gereon mission, the exposure to Chaos he's had, both now and before (Sabbat Martyr, First and Only) but mostly here has.. cauterized him. Its exposed, drained and purged him of the hate and anger, those dark sides of him he keeps under control but sometimes slip to the surface. The experience changes Rawne, and for the better.
It ultimately shows that whole 'bonding' thing.. they're being subjected to the taint, to the temptation of Chaos, but to give in is to become like the enemy they revile, and they don't want to give into those darker natures, those things they fear and hide and suppress. To them, it would be too great a sacrifice, and thus doing anything that proves they are still human (as they see it) is important. In a way its kind of selfish rather than altruistic, but humans are not nice, neat little packages that can be categorized by ideals. We are dirty, messy, complex creatures who get along in life as best as we can, and sometimes we make compromises between the light and the dark to do so, just like here. As turning points go in 40K books, this is quite a good one.


Page 407
“I was afraid,” Sturm said. “I was afraid for my life. I ran. I deserted my post. I would have left them all to die.”
..
“Take it all down! This is my confession! This is me! You and your foul masters wanted to know all about me! All my secrets! You wanted to pick my mind clean! Well, how about this one, eh? I thought I was a lord general. I thought I had power and strength. So did your masters. That’s why they spent all this time and effort breaking me. And what do they get?"
..
Sturm turned and bowed his head. “A coward. A man too afraid of death to do the right thing.”
Another aspect of this book is that Sturm is not the asshole one might assume, simply because of his actions agianst the Ghosts. He did some horrible things, he was prejudice, cruel, and callous, but he's not an evil man. Nor was he, deep down, a disloyal one. With his mind locked he may have contemplated that - it was the hate and anger, the sense of betrayal by Gaunt and the Imperium... but returned to his senses, he is a different man. I think the book really shows that, through his interactions with Desolane. Even Gaunt, in the end comes to realize it we will see. Sturm may be a fool, but he is an honest one

Page 411-412
“Please, no. Nothing so formal,” Sturm protested. “I remember it all now, Gaunt. All of it. The fear. The… cowardice. It’s not a pretty memory. Throne knows, it took long enough to come back.”
Gaunt raised one of his pistols. “By the power of the Commisariate, I hereby declare—”
“Ibram? Ibram… please,” Sturm begged.
“Not this time, Sturm.”
“Please, in the name of the Throne! Give me a weapon!”
..
“I showed you that respect at Vervunhive. You turned it into an attack.”
“I know. I’m sorry. I beg you. Gaunt, you have two bolters, for Throne’s sake.”
..
“Final request granted. Or… another trick?” Gaunt asked.
Sturm shook his head.
“Final request accepted,” Sturm said. He put the barrel of the bolt pistol to his head and pulled the trigger.
Gaunt took a step forward, not yet believing it was over. Sturm lay at his feet, his skull exploded like a ripe melon.
Gaunt faces Sturm, and its a repeat of the scene from Necropolis. Although it plays out differently compard to last time. Gone is the traitor general, the mindlock completely gone. Gone also is the pompous ass (and coward) we knew from Ghostmaker and Necropolis. Here we have someone who knows what he has done - and what he could do - if he remains alive. There's a kind of symmetry here - this whole situation was created because of the ill will between Gaunt and Sturm (both admit hatred of the other for what happened at Vervunhive) and yet there is none of that hate in the end. There is no real hate anymore - not quite total forgiveness but... a chance. Gaunt unbending enough to give Sturm a small chance to make amends, to give him control of his fate. In a cold way its even a sort of mercy, especially shown to someone whom Gaunt has every reason to hate (and does).
Its kind of tragic too, as this is the moment Desolane arrives, and its kind of horrible in its own way that the kind and dedicated life-ward has to see that failure, and has to die witht hat failure in his memory.


Page 412
A hotshot round disintegrated Desolane’s midriff and threw the life-ward’s corpse against the far wall.
Gaunt looked up. Feygor, his face streaming with blood, lowered Larkin’s long-las.
Long-las obliterates humanoid toros, roughly human shape/mass probably, so we're talking triple digit kj roughly, perhaps a rough grenade level damage.
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Back to Sabbat Worlds with 'His Last Command' . This is the second book of the cycle, and covers the return of Gaunt and 'co from their last mission much later than originally intended, and believed missing by the Guard high command. The Ghosts have been folded into another regiment, and Gaunt and the others are forced to deal with the aftermath of their mission and the new situation they are thrown into and re-integrating in with their comrades (old and new.) At the same time the Ghosts must - in their own way- come to terms with the changes in the newly returned and the tensions it creates. And Gaunt must deal with the fact he has 'lost' the Ghosts and must begin a new chapter in his life, despite not wanting to.

Ironically the title has a twofold meaning, both in terms of Gaunt and in another way that only becomes apparent in the end. Its a bit of a deception that way, but it was one I thought was interesting. It ties up some loose ends and bridges the events between Traitor General and the 'conclusion' in Armour of Contempt, and it works well in that regard even though it (like much of the cycle) is basically a sort of filler in the series (although the first three books connect together more intimately than the last book does, but I'll discuss that later.)

Unlike the last book, I'll be dumping it all out at once. Playing catchup and wanting to finish and all that.

Part 1:


Page 11
Like all the Camp Xeno troopers, he wore leather-jacked steel armour that was articulated around his body and limbs in interlocking segments, so as to give the impression of well-developed but flayed musculature. He slid his shock maul into its belt loop and unlimbered his cut-down autorifle.
Not sure if they are Imperial Guard, PDF, or some private force (Comissariat, Inquisition, etc.) but the equipment is interesting.



Page 17-18
..but all he could see via his relay screen...
..
He fiddled with the screen’s magnification, and zoomed in on the desert floor, glimpsing dark dots and tiny litters of black specks.

...
He dialled up to maximum magnification and was able to detect tiny flashes in the base of the fume-bank, like sparks. Laser artillery, heavy ordnance, earthshakers, all assaulting the hidden edifice.
...

He looked round, squinting out of the tiny window port, and caught a glint in the sunlight as the Lightning escort turned away, leaving the Commissariat Valkyrie alone for its final approach.
Commisariat VAlkyrie carrying Gaunt and his crew to see Van Voytz. It has its own relay screens (viewing, which suggests cameras) including magnification.

Also mention of various kinds of artillery, including direct and indirect fire stuff. The laser artillery is interesting
I think.



Page 18
Four Command Leviathans docked together in a cross, surrounded by the vast, regimented lines of ranked fighting vehicles, gunplatforms,
extensive habi-tent camps, fuel and munition depots, and parked fliers. A vast assembly of Imperial Guard power, a mobile city: each Leviathan alone was an armoured crawler the size of a small town.
Ancreon Sextus Guard HQ ad camp. Size of LEviathans.



Page 18
The Valkyrie had set down on a landing pad on the hunched back of one of the vast Leviathans. Service crews in full sun-shrouds were hurrying forward into the shadow of the big transport to couple it up and attach fuelling lines.
...
The dust-caked back of the Leviathan spread out around him in all directions, a grim vista of cooling vents, gun-turrets and sensor domes.
Valkyrie has landed on the back of a Leviathan, one of four parked back to back as the nexus for the HQ, meanign the top of the Leviathan, width wise, is bigger than a Leviathan is wide.



Page 18-19
He could see the extent of the HQ encampment clearly now, the huge, marshalled assemblies of men and machines spread out around the Command crawlers. Brigades of fighting vehicles waited in the sunlight for deployment orders, tenders and armoury loaders moving amongst them. Vast forests of troop tents covered the desert like infestations of domed fungi, surrounding the large prefab modules of infirmaries, mess-halls and training barns. To the west, beyond the heavily defended mass of the supply dumps and the temporary hangars, lay a massive stretch of rolled-down hardstand matting lined with parked fighter-bombers and their smaller escorts. At the camp’s northern perimeter, he could see a column of armour, kicking up dust as it moved out towards the front. Dozens of black vox masts sprouted from the camp all around, like spears planted into the ground.
More of Guard HQ. Much prefab buiildings and modular shit it seems.



Page 23
Ludd looked down through tinted and slightly inclined panels of glass into a massive, tiered chamber where scores of intelligence officers, Imperial tacticians and high-order servitors manned display consoles and logic engines. In the centre of the chamber, a strategium pit cast a large, pulsing hololithic display up into the air.
Leviathan tactical command center. Note the High order servitors, which presumably means 'higher function' than the simple lobotomised monotask shit we're accustomed to.




Page 26
Ludd hadn’t needed the name to know who this was: Viktoria Balshin, Lady Commissar-General of the Second Front theatre, one of the few women ever to ascend to such a rank in the Commissariat. She was a legend and, if the stories were true, a scourge to friend and foe alike. It was said that in order to thrive in such a male-dominated service, she had compensated for her gender by being the most ferociously hard-line political officer and disciplinarian imaginable.
Suggesting there is a pretty massive glass ceiling in the Sabbat Worlds crusade command staff, if not the Imperium as a whole. Not surprising, given that iwth the sheer diversity of worlds one has in the Imperium, prejudice and sexism is likely to crop up along the way.



Page 32
The guard escort took up station outside, and the heavy hatch sealed and locked. The air pressure changed immediately. Amber runes lit up to show that the lord general’s chamber, a virtual bunker at the heart of the huge crawler, was locked down and running on its own independent systems.
Command bunker of a leviathan is independent of Leviathan's other systems (and presumably power source) and completely sealed.



Page 33
“Sweep has now reached deck six and seven. Internal scanners still show no sign of the intruders.”
Internal sensors. Amusingly Gaunt was already in the command chamber, which suggests the general's chamber is sensor proof.



Page 36
“The heat and machine activity mask bio-traces,” Gaunt said. “The best interference you can get when it comes to beating internal sensors. We learned that taking out a jehgenesh at the Lectica hydroelectric dam.”
Gaunt explains that internal sensors (intruder sensors, bio sensors, whatever) can be fooled by hiding in places like hydroelectric dams or (in this case) the enginarium of a command Leviathan.



Page 42-43
"You encounter a dozen armed renegades. No idents, no warrants. Their story is difficult to believe. They are… not attired to regulations. Indeed, they are shabby. Barbaric. At the very least they have suffered hardships. Perhaps they have gone native. It is also entirely possible that they are tainted and corrupt. And they demand a personal audience with the most senior ranking Imperial officer in the quadrant. Do you not agree that any Imperial commissar would be duty-bound to exercise the utmost caution in dealing with them?”
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Ludd was about to continue when Gaunt spoke. “Let me put it plainly, then. You are a unit commander. Your team has been sent on a high priority mission behind enemy lines on the personal request of the lord general commander. The secrecy of the mission is paramount. Against the odds, after the best part of two years in the field, you get your team out again. Whole, alive, mission accomplished. But you are treated like pariahs, like soldiers of the enemy, mistrusted, abused, threatened with execution. Do you not agree that any Imperial officer would be duty-bound to do everything to safeguard his men under such circumstances?”
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“I’ve fought wars in the name of the God-Emperor most of my adult life, Ludd. Sometimes regulation law gets bent or snapped in the name of victory and honour. I’ve never known the God- Emperor object to that. He protects those who rise above the petty inhibitions of life and code and combat to serve what is true and correct. I don’t much care about myself, but my men, my team… they deserve better. They have given everything except their lives. I will not permit the blunt ignorance of the Commissariat to take those from them too. I am a true servant of the Throne, Ludd. I resent very much being treated as anything else.”
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“You don’t have to convince me. But therein lies your problem. I’m not the one you have to convince.”
Gaunt and Ludd, his saviour and defender (and Junior Commissar) have a back and forth about the circumstances of the Gereon team's return. As we discover, many are suspicious of them as being tainted by Chaos (or even possibly tainted) even though Gaunt and the others deny this is true. Their actions have been rather atypical of Guard standard, their appearance and even their speech mark out (to the people in the Leviathan, guard and commissar alike) as potentially tainted, hence the poor reception. Its an interesting continuation of the whole 'nature of chaos and chaos corruption' we got from the last book, and an interesting 'tables turned' situation for Gaunt and the rest. The way the Gereon team is being treated is quite similar to how Gaunt and the others regarded the Gereon resistance, but after two years they've identified closely with that resistance and become more 'like' them. Gereon was, as noted, a signfiicant transisiton for the Ghosts who went in more ways than one (which we will learn more of.) But Gaunt is most changed of all. For one thing he's less hardline fanatic, he seems more casual and open. He actually jokes with and teases Ludd, later.

Overall its a very good look at the internal dynamics and culture of the Imperium, the absolutes vs the relatives, the puritan vs the radical, order vs chaos and all that. In this whole 'reunion/return' scene and the trial to follow, we see some of the hypocrisies and absolutist prejudices that the Imperium as a whole can hold (especially the puritans).. views that many on Gereon have been disabused of. Changes in perspective are like that, and we've seen similar in Abnett's Inquisitorial stories (two different views with RAvenor and Eisenhorn) and we see more of that here.



Page 51
“So what’s the story, Bram?” Rawne asked quietly from the other side of the wall. “We’re in it up to our necks, Eli,” Gaunt replied. “My bad call, I think. I pushed them way too far.”

There was a long pause.

“Don’t beat yourself up,” Rawne said. “We all knew why you called it like you did. They were treating us like shit. You couldn’t take chances.”

“Maybe I should have. We’re facing a tribunal. Bal-shin’s in charge. Van Voytz may not be on side anymore, after what I did.”
Rawne and Gaunt are on first name terms now and respect seems to have grown into.. somethign else. Heck the entire Gereon team seems to be. As I said their experiences, their time there, has bonded them together, changed their perspectives, etc. They had to face Chaos - face the worst in themselves - and survive. Rawne is perhaps most changed of all, which I have discussed in the last book (and books before) this is the 'new' (or rather current) Rawne, the Rawne who has grown in to replace Corbec, although still being essentially who he is. He - and Gaunt - have come a long way since First and Only.



Page 51-52
Gaunt sighed. “The accusation is Chaos taint.”
“Hard to prove.”

“Harder to disprove. Eli, as a commissar, I’d always err on the side of caution.”

“Shoot first, you mean?”

“Shoot first.”
This is actually quite important to the nature of the entire first fifth or so of the book. The main issue is that the Imperium has experience with Chaos, and that teaches.. there are no certainties. And when you have absolute-obsessed puritans involved, the only SURE way to be safe is eradicating the potential threat. Necessary losses, sacrifices, call it what oyu will, but they'd rather destroy rather than risk. Partly fear, partly intolerance/prejudice, but the kicker is there's a certain amount of truth to what they say. Chaos is insidious, and quite subtle somtimes. Even with the best of precautions it can still fuck things up for the Imperium. So while there is alot of negative, unfair shit dictating the witch-hunt against the Gereon team, its not totally without basis, either.



PAge 56
“I’ve reviewed the data,” the inquisitor said. “It’s a tough call. These people have served the Imperium creditably. They have given their all. However, for the safety of us all, I believe they should be put to death quickly and quietly.”

Van Voytz glared at the inquisitor. “That is a brutal—”

“It is the price you pay, my lord. The price of the mission you had them undertake. They did what you ordered them to do, and for that, they should be celebrated. But there is no way they could have come out of that nightmare untouched. It would have been better for them if they had died on Gereon. You sent them to their deaths, after all. The only nagging problem is that they’ve come back and now you’re faced with doing the dirty work Chaos failed to do for you. You must execute them.”

“If they survived the hell I sent them into,” Van Voytz said, “then I’ll give them a chance.” Welt nodded. “Hence the hearings. We will be compassionate.”
I like Welt. He's an interesting blend of pragmatic and even absolutist, but not so stuck on dogma that he can't be flexible. He knows Chaos, knows the risk Gaunt and co. may pose.. and he's not totally willing to risk it... but he doesn't want to kill uneccesarily either. That to me speaks of a man with a conscience as well as a dedication to duty, and those can be hard to balance for an Inquisitor.

He also states - in the most honest way yet - the situation. The Imperium (crusade command at least) is afraid the GEreon team may be tainted, despite what successes they arrived. They don't want to take the risk of taint or trap, and as horrible as ti is - and Welt again admits that its wrong and horrible - they may have to be destroyed. compared to people like Balshin, that is downright compassionate.

This also quite honestly reflects the other side of the coin WRT Chaos. WE have Gaunt's crew (one view on the matter) and we have Welt, Balshin, and Van Voytz (each a variation on the other side of the equation.) Each side has merit to its arguments and view, but there are also certain (tangible) risks involved as well. Its not a simple black or white situation, and not one that can be easily resolved without being arbitrary one way or another (EG Balshin's answer.)



Page 70
“Please, is the defendant under scrutiny here because of his dishevelled appearance? That length of time behind enemy lines, it’s hardly surprising he was not parade muster.”

“A fair point,”
The 'prosecution' tries to justify this, but I think it is a valid poitn still, because for the most part, they DO pay attention to the superficial appearances and judge by those. It fits in with their preconceptions - their prejudices, of what 'Chaos' means. Dirty, bestial, mutated, corrupt and insane are the things they associate with cultists, people who do not dress smartly or clean up or act according to nice neat absolutist rules and guidelines set up by the Imperium. To put it more simply, its a tribal 'you're not what I think is normal, therefore you are dangerous' mentality. Again its partly justified due to the nature of chaos, but when you start thinking in those terms on a consistent basis it becomes a comfortable sort of mental 'groove' that its hard to break free of, and you start pretending it isn't prejudice or preconception.

This is also another of those 'then and now' indicators when contrasted with Traitor general. Recall, for example, how Rawne and others regarded the Gereon resistance fighters for adopting the imagos or the chaos marks so that they coudl blend in with the populace and move openly amongst it without question. They regarded that as sign of 'taint' as well... but now the shoe is on the other foot, and their former comrades regard them with the same distrust adn willingness to destroy that Rawne and others had held.


Page 71-72
“I don’t know. It’s an aspirational idea. One based on the notion of the essential incorruptibility of true Imperial souls.”

“Indeed. And that is how you see yourself and your team?” “Yes,” said Gaunt.

“It’s interesting,” Welt said, rising as Balshin resumed her seat. “As you say, Gaunt, an aspirational idea. But isn’t it true that even the greatest and purest of men have, through the course of our history, been corrupted by the warp despite their soundness of heart?”

“History speaks of such things. But I think I’m right in saying that Urbilenk wrote that: ‘Chaos merely unfetters the dark quarters of the mind, unlocking that which was always there. True, pure minds have nothing that curse may use’.”

“You quote him well.”

“One of my favourites, inquisitor. I would also cite Ravenor, who said in The Spheres of Longing: ‘Chaos claims the unwary or the incomplete. A true man may flinch away its embrace, if he is stalwart, and he girds his soul with the armour of contempt’.”
..
“My team and I were not tainted.”

“Because you and your team are somehow special? Exempt?”

“I believe the Ghosts of Tanith have been blessed by their interaction with the Saint,” Gaunt said.

“On Herodor, you mean?”

“Then, and before. I think perhaps… we’re especially hard to taint.”
GAunt is asked by Balshin whether, if he were in her position, he would believe anything Gaunt said, and Gaunt goes on with this. The bit with the SAint granting 'taint resistance' could have some merit to it, but I suspect the whole 'armour of contempt' thing is the real gem of this passage. Back in Traitor General, we had Mkvenner positing an idea regarding Chaos which echoes the philosohper quotes Gaunt echoes, and the whole idea of 'can you resist Chaos' is tied up in that too with the whole 'bringing out the worst' in people. In theory, the opposite is true - it can bring out the best, in a proper frame of mind, and I suspect that may be part of the whole 'armour of contempt.' Faith, certainty of mind, inner peace.. things like that. If its the dark, cruel, negative aspects of humanity that make us vulnerable to chaos, then striving to be better than that, to rise above them and replace them with something better - self sacrifice, honour, duty, bond of friendship and love - can overcome that same 'taint.'

And yet again, Welt has a good point too.. even the supposedly 'incorruptible' have been corrupted, which leads to the question of what actually allows for resistance to taint? We can look to both the Sororitas and Gray Knights for examples, of course, but what else - what for the common man - might work and explain Gaunt and the rest? Maybe something akin to with the Sororitas and their persistant faith, but not everyone is so indoctrinated as they are, to be fair. It may very well be that judging 'incorruptibility' is far less absolute than the Imperium assumes (just because one is a religious man, or even puritanical, does not mean they are incorruptible... because some of the traits of the puritan and fanatic can feed chaos as readily as someone who is hedonistic, berserker, or ambitious...)



Page 81-82
“Once you’d pulled that stunt in here, Ibram, it was out of my hands. I had no choice but to give you to Bal-shin. There would have been hell to pay, otherwise. I had to give you to Balshin, and while she was busy with you, find ways to get you cleared.”

“You did that?”

“I pulled some strings, called in a few favours. My last few favours, probably.
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"All you need to know is… I made her a proposition. I contacted the office of the Warmaster himself, and got his personal endorsement for my proposal. Inquisitor Welt also supported it, which helped a great deal. I think Welt likes you, Ibram. Admires you.”
In the end, Imperial politicking gets Gaunt off, because he has friends in high places. There's more involved of course, but its still interesting that if Gaunt didn't have buddies like Van Voytz, he'd probably be screwed.



Page 90
Crookshank unleashed the full fury of his roar through his throat tubes, shaking the world. As he pounced, throwing all eight hundred kilos of himself forward into the air...
Thrice-wrought.. some sort of augmetic chaos creature. We learn more later, just recall the mass, because it can be come important later on.



Page 91
"Here’s what we’re going to do,” Wilder said, adjusting the gain of his low-light goggles so he could study a plastek-sheathed chart.
Colonel Wilder, of the 81/1 regiment. The Tanith have basically been amalgamated with another regiment, and Wilder is now in charge. So there are three different factions involved - Tanith, Verghastite, and Belladon (the new one.) Also apparently the Colonel has low-light goggles, which seems fairly common issue to all the folk in the regiment. If its temporary or permanant we don't know yet.




PAge 92
"We’ll leave six companies here on the trackways. The rest go forward."
At least six companies in the regiment.. probably 8.



Page 93
This was a bad time of day. Too dark for eyes, too light for goggles. Meryn removed his goggles anyway. According to scout philosophy, the sooner you got your eyes adjusted, the better.
Limits on the 81/1 low light goggles. Also we see Meryn. Who is now a Captain (leading a company). He also we learn has hooked up with Banda, meaning he's basically slipped into Rawne's old position in his absence. With his cold/cruel nature and ambition, this is not a good recipe.



Page 95
Vaguely humanoid, with stunted legs and vast arms and shoulders, the once-wrought weighed around four hundred kilos.
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Patches of long, black hair trailed from a flat, almost indented scalp that still showed the healing scars of surgery, and hung down across tiny, pig-eyes that glinted behind an implanted iron visor.
Once-wrought. Half the mass of the Thrice wrought before. Again note the mass.




Page 96
He and Leyr began firing immediately, full auto bursts of las from their mark III carbines.
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Caffran and Leyr saw their shots cutting into the spook’s hide, but it didn’t even flinch. Blood streaked down it from the multiple puncture wounds.

They feel no pain, Caffran thought. How do you stop a thing like...
Caffran and Leyr have mk 3 'carbines' again. Also the shots make 'puncture' wounds, suggesting they punch holes in things rather than explode them. Also pain seems to be a major component of the lasguns 'stopping' effects.



Page 96-97
A hot-shot round exploded his cranium. The shot had been aimed right down the once-wrought’s yawning gullet. There was a stringy burst of gore that left nothing behind except the heavy lower jaw, and the nightmare pitched over dead.
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..Jessi Banda lowered her long-las and ejected the spent hot-shot pack.
single use hotshot headsplodes once-wrought. Per here we know a human head is between 4-5 kg, o rroughly 8% of human body mass. For 400 kilos thats 32 kg. If we figure the head is maybe 5-6x normal human head mass we get 20-30 kg. So it seems roughly normal-human torso mass, which would probably be high double/low triple digit kj at least to blow apart (equivalent to blowing out Desane's torso in Traitor General.)



Page 98
Well, that was the sort of area where things weren’t perfect.
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..the Tanith and Verghastites had songs of their own that would not easily swell the breast of a true-blood Bel-boy. Where it was relatively easy to combine regimental titles, things became clumsy when it came to songs and traditions. And warcry mottos..
..
Things would come, evolve, but it would take time, and it certainly wouldn’t be forced.
Amalgamation woes again. Made worse when you have three separate factions to placate.




Page 99
Commissar Genadey Novobazky had been with Wilder and the Belladon for five years. Grizzled and lithe, he was a stern man, a fair man, and one disapproving glance from his grim demeanour was usually all that was needed. When it wasn’t, Novobazky really came into his own. He was the best talker Wilder had ever met, the best rabble-rouser, a real burning det-tape when it came to igniting battlefield spirit: funny, loquacious and inspirational. His predecessor, Causkon, had been a real sap, which hadn’t mattered much as the Belladon had never needed much field discipline, but Wilder had counted himself lucky to have an asset like Novobazky assigned.
Belladon Commissar, another one of those 'inspiriational' manipulator types. although he seems fond of stories. :P



Page 103-104
“Auspex!” Wilder yelled over his link, panting as he struggled through the wet undergrowth.
“No fix yet, working.”
Belladon using auspex.



Page 108
A piece of art that. Honed over the years. The skilful acknowledgement of fear, the patriotic strand, the unexpected sucker-punch of ‘Did they break and run? Yes!’. A piece of art. The thundering cadence and gathering rhythm. Simple words that carried over the tumult. Too many commissars told men they were invulnerable when they patently weren’t. Too many commissars harangued and scolded, stripping away pride and confidence.
Again differences between good and not good commissars.




Page 109
They’d got their field support weapons set up: two thirty calibre cannons and a trio of light mortars.
Belladon (or at least the amalgamated regiment's) support weaponry.



Page 110
“We’re being shelled, colonel. Whatever’s lobbing these munitions is well beyond our small-arms or even light support range. Four or five times that, maybe more. If there are hot-body targets out there too, well, they’re likely to be two or three times beyond our range too. Any closer, and they’d stand the risk of taking the back-creep of their own artillery. I’ve got a limited amount of ammo and mortar loads. I’d rather not waste any of that until I can be sure of a target.”
We dont know what is quite doing the shelling, but if we assume its convenitonal artillery (call it 15-16 km by IA basilisk terms) the implied upper limit range for small arms and support weapons (including mortars) would be 3-4 km, which would not be unreasonable for mortars on a low end (or some heavy support weapons. We dont know what 'hot body' targets are, I'm guessing infantry or maybe tanks, that would be 6-12 km implies, which is quite a bit of range for shelling. If its mortars, we might infer half that range.

If we go the opposite way, and figure at least 2-3 km (which would fit into the low end of above) for whatever shelling theyre getting, whilst at the high end (5-7.5 km for larger infantry mortars) you would get between 20 and 38 km estimated. All very conjectural and we still dont know hte shelling, but intersting nonetheless. If we go by support weapons as well as mortar range (1-2 km call it) then ranges are much shorter 4-8 km, which might suggest mortars are shelling, as we know the 'support' weapons are .30 and .50 caliber generally.






Page 116
Around the room, equipment had been laid out, most of it still in the plastek wrap it had come bagged in, fresh from the quartermaster’s stores. Ludd saw a fleece bedroll, a field-dressing pouch, a leather stormcoat, a ten-to-sixty field scope, and a brand new commissar’s cap, the brim gleaming, still half-wrapped in cushion paper. On a side table, in an open steel carrier, a matched pair of chrome, short-pattern bolt pistols lay in moulded packing. Ten spare clips were fastened into the carrier’s lid with elastic webbing.
Gaunt's gear. Note now he dual-wields bolt pistols, 5 clips per gun,



Page 122
“The Instrument of Order?” Ludd asked, picking the book up.
Gaunt glanced over. “I thought I should refresh myself. I’m a rogue, Ludd. I’ve been in the wilderness for a long time. I thought it was as well that I reminded myself of the actual rules.”
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“They’re a nonsense. Starchy, high-minded, tediously prim. I find it hard to remember now how I ever managed to discharge my duties as a commissar without breaking down in tears of frustration.”
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“A trooper is afraid for his life, as is quite natural in war. He breaks the line. What am I supposed to do?”
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“Well, here’s a clue, Junior Commissar Ludd. It’s not speak to him, calm his fears, improve his morale and get him back in line. Oh no, sir. The correct answer, according to that vile text, is to execute him in front of his peers as an example.”
Another strong indicator of the strong changes in Gaunt since Gereon. Whatever semblance of Commissarial ' He's an officer and a human first, and a commissar a distant second (or perhaps third.) It's interesting, because it makes him a great inspirational figure and a leader.. but he's still an even worse Commissar, becuase Commissars are more than just leaders. The big problem is his inflexible sense of duty and honesty. He's changed quite a bit, he is still intelligent and cunning in a way, and he's loosened up clearly but.. he's no Ciaphas Cain. Heck compared to Hark or most other Commissars he's piss poor. Part of the problem is he's no dissembler. Hark is, and Cain's gift for dissembling and lying and manipulation was why he's a hero of the Imperium. Indeed cain's gift for lying and manipulation coupled with his humanitarian side is what makes him a great commissar.

I suspect a big reason why Gaunt is a poor commissar, however, is because he no longer has the luxury of simple certainties or detachment from his charges. He grows too close to people, and too sympathetic to their points of view. It makes him a great leader, again, but it clashes with that commisarial side. In a way he's a 'Radical' Commissar, echoing the development of Eisenhorn in his path from puritan to radical, although not quite as heretical, arguably :P


Gaunt has even grown more cynical regarding commisars as well.. very much in line with the 'codex' fluff or Cain's cynical view, really.



Page 123
Gaunt sighed. “How did we ever build this Imperium? Death and fear. They’re not building blocks.”
No, lies and informational manipulation and militant nationalism are the building blocks of the Imperium. REad the Horus Heresy novels :P Whatever else may have changed about Gaunt hes still an optimist and somewhat naive, given that 'Death and Fear' are actually a big part of the Imperium and have been for a long time. you would think that with his new understanding of Chaos he might understand as well that the negative stuff is just as much part of humanity as the good things, and that means its also part of the Imperium (just as it is with Chaos.) Again one of those ironic little similarities I think.



Page 124
All of them except Criid had shaved scalps. On various bare forearms, Gaunt noticed medicae skin-plasts, little adhesive patches that were releasing drugs into their systems to clean them of parasites and lice.
Medial stuff.. for dealing with parasites and skin plasts (some sort of cast or bandage I'd gather)


Page 125
Bonin agreed. “And then all you can imagine is… oh, I don’t know. A glorious last stand, maybe. Or a triumphal parade and a Guard pension. One or the other.”
Fate of a Guardsman.. death or.. pension. AT least they get a pension! I'd hate to think of what the Codex might choose. Death or.. Death. Maybe Cake or Death.



Page 129
To Wilder’s eyes, the smoke was just smoke, but Domor’s augmetics, enhanced beyond human vision, had picked up the heat trails chopping in at low level.
Domor's super vision again.



Page 132-135
Valkyrie drop-ships were swinging down onto a wide table-rock of basalt, west of the post, dropping off wounded from the field. Some of those bodies on the stretchers were Wilder’s men. Once they’d dropped, the Valkyries either lifted off and headed back out into the compartment for a second run, or flew on south, through the massive arch of the gate, heading to their landing fields at the fourth compartment forward posts.
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"The Kolstec 50th took a hammering early this morning up along the bluff. They’ve been airlifting them in for the past hour.”
Med evac from the field by Valkyrie.



Page 142
“Men desert in the field, and you let them run, but you’re quite happy to execute a ranking officer.”

“Yes. Let that be a lesson to you,” Hark said. He stopped walking and turned to face Wilder. “I’m joking, of course. I’d like to think this might have illuminated you a little as to my approach. Men desert in the field. They’re afraid. Why are they afraid? Because they’re not being led soundly. Should they be executed, for a simple, human failing? No, I don’t believe so. I think they should be given a solid leader so it doesn’t happen again. An officer fails, then the whole structure falls down. Gadovin was why those men were running. Gadovin was the failure. So I reserved my censure for him.”
Earlier Hark had let a bunch of tank crew run off without executing them, and had just recently executed their officer for cowardice (over the intentions of the Marshal of this theatre) and is explaining ot Wilder his intent. Makes sense insofar as I believe, and echoes some of the earlier fluff I remember for Commissars (officers are held to account and not troops.) Given the command and control of the Guard (officers are obeyed at all costs) it makes sense too.. why execute the Guards for the failures of the officer.



PAge 146
Sparshad Mons was just one of eight step-cities on Ancreon Sextus currently under assault by Van Voytz’s armies.
Eight step cities.



Page 147-148
“Sparshad Mons,” Gaunt said to him, with a tip of his head.
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The Mons was vast: wide, towering, cyclopean, not so much a man-made monument as a mountain peak cut into great angular steps from its broad skirts to its cropped summit.
..
..the Mons was a structure of concentric walls, ascending to the peak. The walls, hundreds of metres high and monumentally thick, enclosed the so-called compartments, significant tracts of wild country open to the sky. By some quirk of climate and topography, these compartments— some of them as much as twenty kilometres by ten — supported entire eco-systems of plant and wildlife, nurtured by untraceable underground water courses, defying the deserts outside. The encircling compartments were linked in chains, connected end to end by gigantic inner gateways, and the Imperial invaders had found, perplexingly, that the eco-system and terrain of one could differ wildly from that of its immediate neighbour.
Composition and size of the step-cities. Given the implied dimensions of some of the compartments, the place is easily many tens of kilometres, if not a hundred or more in diameter. Bear in mdin this may be 'vairable' depending on source.



Page 149
The passage of time and the ministries of the desert had collapsed what had once been the outer rings of compartments around the base of the Mons. The white sand was densely littered with fallen stone blocks and the tatters of once-immense walls. Within these eroded ring patterns, Ludd could see the long emplacements of Imperial artillery, dug in and lobbing shells up at the higher steps of the inner Mons.
We dont know what kind of artillery, but the assumption would be at least several tens of kilometers for potential range.



Page 151
They banked to starboard. About three kilometres along the right hand wall of the compartment, another massive gateway loomed, its facade severely pockmarked and burned by shelling.
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There were more trackways, more areas of damage and scorching. Ludd saw several large blast craters, hundreds of metres across, their shallow pits filled with dark water.
Thats an implied 3 km from the arc of the doorway (compartment nine on the map) which would imply 20-30 km for the compartment. No idea what made the craters hundreds of metres long, but possibly the Guard artillery (or Chaos) That would be kiloton rnage roughly.



Page 151
Two Vulture gunships and a Nymph-pattern recon flier were tied down at the edge of the field.
Recon flier.



Page 155
The hallway was piled with cargo and munitions cases, and the floor covered with metal grilles to overlay the extensive web of power and data cables. Ludd could hear the chatter of cogitators and the hum of equipment.
Guard command HQ.



Page 155
“So I understand,” said Gaunt. “What’s the per capita ratio of Commissariat officers?”
“Roughly one in seven hundred,” Sautoy said. “Woefully thin."
1 commissar per 700 officers is considered low, at least by Crusade standards.



Page 156
{" I’ve nine regiments here, infantry, plus armour support to the tune of three mechanised outfits. I’ve petitioned for more, but we’ll have to wait and see. Main force concentration is here at post 10, here at post 12, and here, post 15. Now, the hot zones are as follows: we breached the gate in the north wall here four days ago so we’re fighting up into the compartment designated ‘seven’. Early days, very fierce. Then, about four kilometres further along the same wall, here, you see, is the gate to compartment nine. "
Force dispostions and the locations of the compartments. Note the 4 km difference between compartments 7 and 9, again impliyng tens of km length for the compartment (And something closer to 80-100 km diameter for the entire Mons.)

18-54 thousand troops maybe (assume 2-6 thousand men per regiment) that would be between 26 and 77 commisars for the front total.



Page 159
" He was so keen to impress on us how green the Guard strengths are here. Fresh-founded, draughtees, kids, most of them, getting their first taste of a real combat zone. What Sautoy neglected to mention was that the same can be said of the officer cadre, even the senior staff. Oh, there are exceptions… Van Voytz, naturally, and Humel and Kelso… but for the most part, Macaroth’s taken the cream with him to the front line. This Second Front’s being fought by children, commanded by inexperienced or unqualified commanders. No wonder the desertion and taint rate is so high.”
Gaunt's assessment of the Second Front. underlines some of the key drawbacks of the Guard's approach to warfare... manpower may be easy to come by, but training would not neccesarily be. And that applies to both the officers and rank-and-file. Indeed its worse when it comes to officers, given the way the Guard is designed around obedience to said officers.



Page 161-162
“Hardly the horrors of war,” Ludd remarked.

“Those await up-country in the hot zones,” Gaunt said. “And in here.” He tapped his own chest. The single most likely reason a man has to desert is fear of the unknown.

“In new recruits, that fear means everything. They’ve not seen combat, they’ve not seen injury or death. They’ve probably never left their home worlds before, and certainly not ever been this far away from their families and all things familiar. This post looks decent enough, but to most of them it’s probably a lonely, alien place. And their dreams are full of the horrors to come. So they break and they run.”
Gaunt may be a lousy Commissar when it comes to exploiting guard psychology, but he does understand it well.



Page 164
“Where’s the Munitorum senior, Ludd? In a depot, you can’t move for a grader or a senior checking things off. And since when did combat troops load field supplies? That’s servitor work.”
Servitors do the heavy lifting in the Crusade armies, it seems.



Page 169
The turbine engine continued to rev hard.
..
Gaunt realised how small and flesh-made and vulnerable he was compared to eighteen tonnes of fat-wheeled transport.
18 tonne munitorum cargo-8 truck masses 18 tonnes and has a turbine engine.



Page 172
“The tacticae prepped this for you. It’s all there. We’re not annihilating the step-cities from orbit because the Ecclesiarchy says there is a possibility they are sacred places.”
..

“There’s a lot of argument about what these structures mean and who built them. You’ll see it all there in the text, sir. Some say they are relics of the Ruinous Powers, some say they are the vestiges of a prehuman culture. But there are signs, apparently, tell-tale clues that archaeologists have identified, that this Mons and the others like it are edifices raised in the name of the God-Emperor, circa M.30.”
..
“In which case they are preserved holy sites,” Ludd said.
“In which case they must be cleansed and not obliterated,”
Politics again interfering with the practicality of war. You can't blast vital industrial sites, agri worlds, or holy sites. :P



PAge 175-176
..the Belladon Eighty-First had also suffered. Founded two years before the start of the Sabbat Crusade, the regiment had once been eight thousand strong..
..
Nearly three-quarters of the Eighty-First had been killed...
..
Reduced to around two thousand men, the Belladon had been in danger of being redesignated as a “support or auxiliary company”. However, their command structure was remarkably intact.
..
The two partial regiments — both light, both recon oriented — complemented one another.
The Ghosts would swell the Belladon’s depleted ranks, the Belladon officer corps — most especially Wilder himself — would provide the Ghosts with much needed command muscle.
The Belladon were a light infantry/recon element 8,000 strong at start, and have been amalgamated with the tanith to bolster their strength. A bit over 2000, which means they might be between 4000-5000 strong given the Tanith's numbers in the last arc - I dont remember the exact numbers. Plus this would be the size at the time of amalgamation, which was some two years or so back (at most), so there's time for that number to have reduced at least some.



Page 186
“Just frightened boys,” Gaunt told Ludd. “Totally without strong leadership, lost. "
..

“If we start executing,” Gaunt said, “Van Voytz will be fighting this war on his own. From what I’ve seen and what I’ve been told, the Imperial forces of the Second Front are plagued with fear and lack of resolve. Punishment has its place, Ludd, but what’s needed here is a way to give the Guard some focus. Some resolve.”
..
“Because they’ve never had it. These boys have no experience of war, nothing to insulate themselves with. Under other circumstances, the officer class and the commissars would whip some spirit into them and get them through the first weeks of doubt and fear until they found their feet. But the officers are no more experienced, and there aren’t enough commissars. Summary execution is a commissar’s most potent tool, Ludd. Used to effect in a situation involving a veteran unit, it reminds the men of their commitment. Used on units of fresh-faced boys, it destroys what little spirit they have. Worse, it confirms their fears.”
Well I'll give Gaunt this much, while I think he sucks on many parts of a Commissars duties, this is still indicative of things he's quite good at - the inspirational and leadership bits.



Page 195-196
The other head cook, Bolsamoy, had dropped his steaming kettle and pulled a heavy auto pistol, a Hostec 5.
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Bolsamoy’s first burst had splintered the nearest tent support pole and killed a junior trooper who had been waiting in line, holding his mess tin. The boy simply tumbled down, his skull burst. Further shots wounded three more men in the canteen queue...
Heavy autopistol ruptures skull with a burst (unknown number of bullets.) And is apparnetly fully automatic.



PAge 196
Ludd had a perfect angle. He prided himself on his marksman scores. He fired.
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Bolsamoy staggered slightly. To Ludd, the world went into some kind of slow motion. The cook shuddered, so hard and so violently, Ludd was able to watch the fat of his belly and jowls quaking like jelly. A tiny black hole, venting smoke, appeared abruptly in Bolsamoy’s right cheek. His face deformed around it. His right eye bugled and popped. His head hammered back like whiplash had cracked down his frame. Nerveless, his hand spasmed around the trigger of the auto, which tilted up as he went over backwards, punching holes in the canvas roof.
Ludd's laspistol. Not calcable, but its an interesting comment on lasweapon effects. There is a small entry wound (which vents smoke, indicative of isgnificant internal burning) and considerable shock effects (internally at least) although apparently not enough to rupture the skull. Bullets cause similar shocks with their temporary wound cavities as well.

There is also an implication of considerable nerve/neural effects, although the reason for that isn't stated.



Page 197
He had a blunt 9 in his hand and was firing backwards on full auto.
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Korgy saw him, and blasted away with his auto-blunt..
Aunother autopistol with full auto.



Page 198-199
"On Fortis Binary, food shortages got so serious that the Munitorum started to take corpses from the morgues and process the flesh for food. It was endemic in the hives at one point. A shameful secret your people put behind them.”
..
“I knew the smell as soon as I arrived. And once the base commander had shown me the spread on the dataslate, it was clear. The Fortis Binars are new blood, but their service staff isn’t. The cooks and canteen workers are veterans from the old war on your homeworld, Ironmeadow. They know how to make a meal go round. More particularly, they can make a killing selling fresh food-stocks on the black market, filling in the shortfall with forbidden supplies.”
I am a bit amused by this given the fact how often it happens in various forms in the Imperium. I'm guessing the problem (and shameful secret) is that the Binar cooks weren't as good at 'processing' it as the Munitorum is, hence the ilness and suffering and poor state of the given front. Must be another 'Crusade-based' thing.



Page 202
He realised, suddenly, that he wasn’t frightened. He was quite aware that they were in all kinds of danger, but fear refused to come. If anything, his pulse rate had dropped, and a terrible clarity had settled upon him. He tried to remember the last time he’d actually felt any fear, and realised he couldn’t. Gereon had stolen that from him, and from all the members of the mission team. Terror had been such a permanent fixture, around them at every moment, that the fear response had simply burned out. So had everything else: desire, appetite, common feeling. All they had been left with was the simple, pure will to survive. Gereon had hardened them so drastically, Gaunt wondered if any of them would ever get back those basic human traits.
Another of the Gereon changes. Not Chaos related, but still probably relevant.



PAge 206
Even a dread Traitor Marine might have reeled from the force of two bolt pistols at such tight range.
Traitor marine vs Gaunt's bolt pistols :P
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Part 2 and then I can put the 40K stuff to rest for now :P




Page 214
Trooper Caffran had pushed his way through the huddle towards Tona Criid, and stopped short in front of her. He started to move to embrace her, but there was something in her manner that seemed to persuade him not to.
“Tona,” he said.
“Caff.”
“I knew… I knew you’d make it back.”
“Glad someone did.” Then she’d moved on past him, heading towards the billets, leaving him alone, a puzzled expression on his face, the muscle in the corner of his jawline working tightly.
This is just one part of the greater 'reunion' between the Gereon team and the rests of the Ghosts, but I think it sums up things nicely. The Gereon teams are still coming to terms with survival and escape, and trying to adapt to a wholly different enviorment. For two years they did nothing but fight and kill to survive, and now they're trying to adjust back to their old lives. Its something that gets discussed multiple times throughout the book, but I think its interesting as its one of those horrible consequences of war... even within a war.

Tona and Caffran are especially symbolic of it for me because of my previously-expressed affection for their story. Seeing them like this.. Caffran happy to see the woman he loves alive, yet Tona (who missed him and her kids whilst on Gereon) isn't able to return that. She feels.. nothing. She's still a shell of what she was, becuase she had to shed so much hopes and emotional baggage and other stuff just to enable her to survive. The sheer coldness she expresses to what is - for lal intents and purposes - her husband is just incredibly jarring. And while I dont want to spoil things yet, what is to come in the last two books of this sequence make this scene all the more painful in retrospect, I think.



Page 219
"I checked each of them over yesterday, just the expected routine exam. I’d been so looking forward to seeing each one again, and they were like strangers. Not actually unfriendly, but… distant.”
..
“They’ve been on their own for so long, it may take them a while to settle back into company. I mean, they’re just not used to being around people they can trust. I think they’ve had to ditch a lot in order to survive as long as they have. In fact, that’s all they have left. Survival. I don’t know if they’ll ever be the people we knew again.”
..
“Larks has got a hard edge to him now,” Dorden said. “A lot of the old shakes and tics have gone. I’d have expected a horror show like Gereon to push him right over the edge. Maybe it did, and he got pushed so far, he came back the other way. Point is, if that’s what it’s done to the most psychologically weak member of the team…” his voice trailed off.
Dorden disucssing the Gereon team. Again, there's that contrast between how the team is now, and how it was.. and how the people around them observe and deal with that. They don't know how to deal with those people, who themselves don't know how to deal with what they've been through, the trauma of their experiences, and how to adapt to a completely new situation. There is, in fact that fear that they may be permanantly damaged.

One of the aspects of the Guard is that sometimes the horrible things they see, or do, or experience can drive them insane, and no soldier is completely normal or human compared to those they are supposd to protect. Some may become harder or more callous, or unfeeling... or outright monsters. Its mentioned but never really.. described.. or felt. This makes it more visceral.. and it makes it easy to imagine what the horrors of war can inflict on the human psyche.

Indeed it makes me wonder sometimes if the 'distance' and difficulty in adapting might in any way reflect what real life soldiers and vets go through when they come back to wars. If it is.. it makes you really wonder just what we ask them to sacrifice in order to do somethign we ourselves may not be willing or capable of doing.



Page 220
It was new, an Urdesh-pattern mark IV long-las, finished in satin black with dark plastek furniture.
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About six months into the Gereon tour, he’d run out of hot-shot rounds, run out of even the means to manufacture or recook hot-shot rounds.
..
He’d switched to a simple, solid-slug autorifle that Landerson had found for him, an old hunter’s bolt-action.
Larkin gets acquainted with a new long-las. The notable thing is his old long-las and ammo lasted six months before his hotshot packs apparently wore out. Whilst we dont know how often he used it, if we use the Traitor general example as a benchmark (around a mont) he must have fired dozens if not hundreds of shots at least. And the thing is.. single-use hotshots can be 'made' on the fly, or 'recharged' (recook I'm guessing means that.) From this I gather they can be adapted from existing powerpacks (or perhaps other powercells) and the only difference is the rate at which the energy is dicshcarged. This could suggest the difference between a hotshot and a regular lsagun powerpack is simply the number of shots - the capacity remains the same. Given that long las are just a modification of a regular lasgun, this is not terribly surprising. Given probable powerpack capacities that would imply hotshots are hundreds of kilojoules to several megajouels, which would be roughly consistent with their effects.

I should also note this is distinctly different from the 'other' kind of hotshot, the more traditional 'twenty shot' packs or the backpack ones storm troopers used as those were harder ot recharge.

Larkins long las replacement was a bolt action autorifle.



Page 221
Kolea got his company moving north into the scrublands off the track. Dawn was still a while off, and most of them were using goggles, painting the world as a green image, as if they were underwater.
Kolea's company all have low light goggles, which suggests the entire 81/1st does.



Page 223
The Kolstec though, they just wouldn’t shut up. He could hear whining and complaining and occasional bursts of laughter. And even though they clearly had low-light goggles as standard, they were flashing lamps and torch paddles like it was Glory of the Throne Day.
The Kolstec regiments (heavy infantry, we learn) also have NVGs. and this is 'standard', although whether standard for the regiment, for the Crusade forces, or for this particular campaign we don't know.



Page 226
But Rawne felt empty and cold, and it wasn’t just the biting chill of the pre-dawn air. There was nothing about this he engaged with anymore, no point, no purpose, no sense of loyalty. The Tanith First was gone, even though so many familiar faces were around him. There was no longer any intensity, no passion. The world had become empty, its lustre gone, and Elim Rawne was simply going through the motions.
Rawne again reflects the state of hte Gereon team and their attempts to adapt to their old life. And once again it reflects how they have had ot abaondon much of what they were in order to survive on Gereon, and that transition after two years is difficult for them. It's difficult on both sides.. for those doing the adapting and those who have to watch their friends and loved ones try to fit back in. And again it makes me wonder about the real-life parallels here.



Page 227
Rather than resenting the way the Ghosts showed them up, the Belladon had got busy learning all the woodcraft and battle-skills the Tanith could teach them. They’d got rid of the netting shrouds they’d been using since their founding, and adopted Ghost-style camo-cloaks. They’d stopped using their clumsy sword-form rifle bayonets for close work, and got hold of smaller, double-edged fighting knives. The knives were nothing like as handsome as the Ghosts’ trademark straight silver, but they were far handier than the long bayonets.
upsides to amalgamation, I suppose. Two different units can teach each other different (useful) skills. Also the difference in camo gear and blades. Although its amusing to think 'sword bayonets' are more compact than Tanith blades, Given that historical sword bayonets are around 50-60 cm, and the original tanith knives were a 'cubit' long... well.. they're 'only' 30 cm now, so that is more compact :P



Page 228
From the top of the ridge, they got a decent view, via night-scopes, across the deep basin beyond, a steep-sided, scrub-choked vale that widened as it ran west
..
Hill 56 was back-lit by a jumping, trembling light, brief flashes and bursts that lingered as after-images on their goggles.
The scout/recon elements of the 81/1st also have NVGs and apparently low light scopes (binocs, I gather.)



Page 230
What lay beyond that none could say. Even orbital obs and spy-tracking had come up with nothing.
Orbital observation and spy tracking, although it didnt help in seeing what might be ahead of Imperial forces.



Page 237
Maggs began firing at once, loosing a bright cone of energy flash as his weapon discharged at maximum sustain.
By which I take it to mean maximum 'sustainable' rate of fire. What that is we dont know, but I imagine it reflect sthings like ammo capacity, cooling/heating, recharge of the capacitor, etc. It could e lasguns can have multiple rates of fire that change depending on the circumstances (cooling, charge setting, etc.) It's interesting to note that Luke Campbell's theoreticall laser designs on the Atomic rockets energy weapons sidearms page lists two diferent potential rates of fire (a sustained and then an 'extra' number of shots possible before overheating is an issue.)

Also the gunfire comes out in a 'cone', whether this is indicative of a variable focus setting (like in Legion) por simply reflects the lasfire 'spraying' like a machine gun burst (somehow - maybe its a programmed pattern of discharge) or even just Maggs waving the gun about we dont know.



Page 237-238
Maggs kept firing as long as he dared. He had made a real mess of the stalker’s armoured face and throat. His furious shots had chewed at it, ripped and stippled the flesh.
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He found his weapon and fired into its gullet, glimpsing the scorched punctures his shots made in the ribbed, pink roof of its mouth.
Sustained lasfire from Maggs on the 'wrought' (however many times. About 30 cm of tanith steel to penetrate its skull (fatally) and we learn later another similarly sized is maybe half a metre long head.. so we might figure 30-50 cm to do face and throat. 30x30 or 50x50 cm assuming 50-400 j per sq cm. is between 45 kj and 1 megajoule of energy expended. If we assume (artibrarily) half a 60 shot power pack.. maybe several seconds sustained fire (given context of scene) we get between 1-2 kj per shot and 34 kj per shot.

Its mostly estimate, although the shots are penetrative with considerable thermal damage, so single digit at least is likely by the burns alone.



Page 240
"See the skull there? The grafted armour plating at the front? That’s why they can’t be stopped, even by full auto. Whoever made them armoured their braincases at the front. You have to hit them from behind.”
Why full auto does fuck all to the 'wrought'



Page 248-249
Anticipating armour, both the Eighty-First First, and the Kolstec Fortieth behind them, had come loaded for a spot of tank-hunting. Every fireteam unit had been issued with at least one anti-tank launcher, devices which Wilder had learned the Tanith referred to as “tread-fethers”
Every fire team (possibly squad or so) has a anti-tank launcher. This means you can probably 'mix and match' your heavy/support weapons (assuming availability, logistics, and the munitorum cooperate) to match any given situation - such as assigning extra rocket launchrs. Just how far this can go (and how often) is probably variable given the reasons above. It also probably depends on regimental status - veterans probably receive more latitude than green troops, for example.



Page 254-255
“Gak it, Ceg. What happened to you? What did they do to you on Gereon?”
Varl laughed. “Nothing, Gol. They did nothing. I did it all to myself. Just to survive…”
..
Varl shook his head. “Nothing. It’s just that sometimes I wish my old Ghost buddies had the first fething clue about what we had to deal with on Gereon.”
“So tell me. Then I will.”
Varl laughed again. It pained Kolea to see his old friend so conflicted. “Tell you? There’s nothing I can tell you. Gereon didn’t make for anecdotes and war stories. Gereon was fething hell on a stick. Sometimes I want to scream. Sometimes I just want to cry my heart out.”
..
“Tona told us all about it. You have to see your kids, Gol.”
Kolea turned away, bruised with anger. “You better watch your lip, Varl.”
“All right. Whatever you say, poppa. Stings, does it? Close to home? I tell you what, Gol, Gereon’s closer than that to me. To all of us that were lost. It fething hurts, it’s so close.”
Kolea and Varl talk a bit about Gereon, or rather why Varl can't talk bout it. agian it reflects that whole trouble of 'fitting in' and 'relating' after such a harrowing, trauamtic several years. One can only imagine how hard it owuld be for the GEreon team to have to re-adapt to their old life after having gone through waht they did, making the sacrifices they did... how could they explain it to someone and expect them to understand? The coping and fitting in is a big part of this book, I think, reflecting this particular brand of 'horrors of war' in a different, more intimate manner. War can sometimes even put barriers between friends and loved ones, and there's no guarantee those barriers can be overcome.




Page 259-260
The recon team ran clear of the gloomy basin into the pale, misty daylight. The ground ahead was barren, a flinty slope of sedge and thin gorse. Blazing las-bolts followed them out of the thickets, whining in the cold air.
..
Five hundred metres up the open slope, the land levelled slightly, and there were what appeared to be boulders or part of a wall.
..
Kolosim and Bonin had reached the litter of rocks.

..
Kolosim and Bonin leapt the ragged stones and took position, firing back down the slope to cover the others. Maggs joined them, then Caober.
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The first of the pursuers had broken from the dense undergrowth behind them. At least a dozen Blood Pact troopers, their heavy kit and battle plating rattling as they ran up the slope, began firing their weapons from the hip.
Implied range for the lascarbines (And blood pact weapons) of 500 metres. Given that they're carbines (at least called that in some cases) we might infer that full lasrifles (as per ffg) would have greater range. Depending on soruce (rogue trader vs Only War for example) carbines have a range 60% to 75% of a full lasrifle, which means the range is between 667-834 meters approximately.

also not ethe 'battle plating' on the Blood pact.



Page 260
Caober hit one of the Blood Part in the chest and walloped him heavily down on his back, then immediately hit a second of the enemy number in the head. The shot exploded the trooper’s leering black iron mask and sent pieces of it spinning away as the man toppled onto his front.
Las shot explodes mask, possibly exploding trooper's skull. If we figure it splits the mask vertically (which is at least 5-8 cm 'tall' going by drawings on the blood pact novel cover see here we might be talking 50-100 kj, which could be enough to cause trauma/damage to the face, esp from bone or mask shrapnel.



Page 261
A great deal more Blood Pact infantry had begun to spill out of the undergrowth behind the front runners. Three, four dozen, perhaps more. Some ran forward, others dropped to their knees, or onto their bellies, and started loosing aimed shots.
Again aimed shots at maybe half a km.



Page 261
Maggs yanked open one of his webbing pouches and pulled out his field kit, spilling paper-wrapped dressing wads onto the ground.

“Hold on, you hear me?” he murmured at Hwlan. Hwlan, on his back and going into hypovolemic shock, nodded weakly, his face drawn and pale with pain.

Maggs ripped open the leg of Hwlan’s fatigue trousers and loosened the scout’s webbing belts. The wounds were messy. The flesh had burned and cauterised, the usual consequence of super-hot energy hits, but the concussive impact had ruptured the flesh and caused severe secondary bleeding. Hwlan’s skin was sickly white and beginning to bruise. Maggs’ hands became slick with blood.
Effect of lasfire described in detail. The usual burn and cauterization effects is not surprising, but the 'concussive' effects is new, which I gather is attribute to the 'explosive' damage shots cause, or the holes they drill, etc. Possibly they drill permanant cavities through, that might be penetrating but narrow, but also can create 'secondary' concussive/mechanical damage effects alongside the burning surrounding the wound, which can cause additional bleeding, rupturies, bruising, etc. The effect is very similar to what is described in othe rsources (uplifting primer, Savage Scars, etc.) and it woudl describe lasweapons that are not, strictly speaking, either true lasers (or any 'realistic' energy weapon really, but thats not a surpries in the Ghost Series in the least, as few things poitn to true 'lasers.) or it may indicate that the process/damage mechanisms is not the ideally efficient 'blaster' style (at least, not always) Luke Campbell prefers.

Its also possible this indicates lasfire is not real lasers but something more like a particle beam (or a bullet with particle beam properties. LAZER BULLETS.) A particle beam can be much more deeply penetrating of tissues than lasers (which have to 'drill' through successive laser,s either by burning or blasting), and could deposit energy much deeper inside tissues (thus leading to more internal damage that might fit with the 'small hole' on one side and either blowing out the back in another, or the internal cooking and rupturing we have sometimes seen or had described as above.)

Overall it can go either way.

Oh and the Hypovolemic shock relates to blood loss, so as near as Ic an tell it snot a unique effect of lasweapons. ITs a mechanism for bullets (causing the target to bleed out, basically.)




PAge 262
Maggs had packed adhesive dressing across both injuries, and was now using Hwlan’s belt to tourniquet his leg around the groin.
..
Each of them carried a field kit with two doses of painkiller, but the medicaes never advised using more than one at a time.
Trooper field medical kit and gear again.



Page 267
“Lot of shooting ahead,” Caffran called out. “Down under the ridge, about half a kilometre. Serious exchanges.”
..
He handed the scope back. “Line advance!” he shouted. “Straight silver! Weapons live!”
Distance of Rawne's men from the scout engagement, and they engage.



Page 268
A third stalk-tank had now emerged from the undergrowth. This one had an oversized head turret, like a deformity, and appeared to be armed with a plasma weapon or a multi-laser.
Alternate Stalk Tank weaponry.



Page 268
There was a loud, sucking woosh of air and something screamed in low over the heads of the cowering scouts. It struck the stalk-tank squarely between the gimbal-joints of its front pair of legs and exploded. The entire forward section of the stalk-tank vapourised in a blinding orange blur. Concussive overpressure flattened the scouts into the soil.
..
The soldiers of E Company were yelling as they came charging in around either side of the house.
The comapny engages, including imssiles to blow apart stalk tank. Whether it vaporizes because of the rocket or the plasma weapon, we don't know.



Page 269
This was going to be a pitched battle in the antique sense of the word, infantry line against infantry line. There was no cover, no terrain for ranged fighting, and no room for flanking moves. Face to face, hand to hand, the way wars used to be fought.
'hand to hand' and 'line against line' is 'antique' warfare (compared to cover and ranged fighting) at least int he Crusade and to the Ghosts.




Page 269
E Company had the slope on their side. They poured over the rim of it, running towards the enemy, firing shots from weapons that they were brandishing like spears.
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Those at the top of the slope froze in dismay, those further back hesitated because they couldn’t see what was coming.

The lines struck with a visceral, crunching impact of bodies, helmets and battle-plating.
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Caffran glanced at the headless stalk-tank smouldering beyond the wall. “Yes. Bit of a risk at the range I had, but I thought you’d appreciate the effort.”
including 'long range' for a rocket we might figure somewhere between 500-1000 metres implied engagement range, or at least at most, but its really hard to be sure beyond that broad estimate. Alot depends on how far away the blood pact were prior to engagemnet, I suppose.

Also implication that the Tanith/Belladon forces might be wearing rigid plates (at least somewhere.




Page 271-272
His blood was always cold. Gereon had done that to him. On Gereon, every single fight, from the full-blown open battles to the savage blade-brawls of infiltration missions, had been about survival, merciless survival, totally undressed of sentiment, honour or quarter.
..
Rawne had never been a particularly honourable man, but now his soul was cold and hollow, utterly devoid of honour or courage.
...
Combat’s purpose had been reduced to a point where it was simply a way to ensure he was still alive when everything around him was dead. He had no use for caution, no use for fear.
..
Near to them, struggling in the melee, Meryn became aware of the sheer fury he was witnessing. It took his breath away to see the two men, so completely unchecked by fear.
..

..Meryn faltered completely and backed away. He hated the archenemy with a passion, but his own courage and intent seemed to leak away when he saw the Blood Pact broken apart by these daemons.
Another visceral indicator of just how much the Gereon force has been changed by their experiences. Even warfare with the Ghosts.. conventional warfare as they knew it, is different, and their approaches are different. And whats more, it scares the fuck out of even Meryn, which says something considering how psycho that guy was.



Page 276-279
Brostin nodded. “Fine. Mister Yellow is at home for visitors,”
..
Brostin turned away from the crackling heat of the firestorm in the basin. The screams and popping explosions drifted back with the smoke.
“Say hello to Mister Yellow,” he said.
Brostin the Arsonist and his trademark phrase. :P



Page 298-299
“Commissariat, that’s right! You know what that means, don’t you? It means bully! It means discipline master! It means the lash of the God-Emperor, driving you cowards to a miserable end!"
..
"You want to run, don’t you? You want to run right now. You want to get out of here. Get to safety. Throne, I know you all do.”
..
"You might outrun the archenemy, bearing down on us now. Feth, you might even outrun me. But you will never, ever outrun your conscience. Your world suffered under the yoke of the Ruinous Powers for a long time. You’re only here today, as free men of the Imperium, because others did not run. Your fathers and uncles and brothers, and young men, just like you, Imperial Guardsmen from a hundred scattered worlds, who had the courage to stand and fight. For your world. For Fortis Binary. I know this because I was there. So, run, if you dare. If you can live with it. If you can face the dreams, and the pangs of conscience. If you can even bear to think of the fathers and uncles and brothers you lost.”
..
" You can stay, and honour the memory of your fathers, and your uncles and your brothers. You can stay and stand with me, for the Imperium, for the God-Emperor. And for Fortis Binary.”
Whatever I might think of Gaunt's other qualities as a Commissar, the man knows a damn fine speech. As I've said he's best in the inspirational and leadreship roles, and his time on Gereon has not changed that. Indeed, if anything his 'radicalisation' may have improved this ability, this charisma, by eroding what few absolutes may remain to him (well most of them. He's as ever devoted to the Ghosts, to the Saint, to Slaydo's memory, etc.) It is the Commissariat at its most inspirational.




Page 300
The enemy line, indeed the firestorm itself, was much closer. The forward edge of the Binar formation was now less than a kilometre from the advance, and the rain of shells from the Blood Pact armour had begun to find range. Binar and Sarpoy tanks started to open up in reply. From behind the Binars’ forward position, the artillery commenced barrage firing, lofting shells over into the Blood Pact lines.
Armour battle engages at around a kilometre.


Page 305
It would take a two kilometre dash, cross-country, to reach the Dev Hetra 301.
2 km wide combat line, it would seem, at least thats how far spread the Binar forces are, and the Dev Hetra are on the northernmost part of that.



Page 305
Behind the Guard front line, a kilometre south-west, artillery positions were thumping shells into the air with maintained vigour.
Arty, such as it is is a km away, meaning they're bombarding over a 2 km or so distance :P



Page 306
Less than half a kilometre away, he saw Blood Pact AT70’s disintegrate in twitchy puffs of smoke and fragmenting metal.

Lasfire from the advancing enemy infantry started to kiss into the Imperial lines.
Blood Pact opens ifre on Binars from about half a km, whilst advancing. remember again Ludd is behind the Binar line.



Page 313
On the far side of the ridge lay the Dev Hetra positions. Over two hundred units, most of them Hydra and multi-laser mobiles, along with some bulky Thunderer siege tanks and heavy Basilisk platforms.
Dev Hetra. Considered lights upport. Note the multilaser mobiles. Possibly a variation or adaptation of a hydra (much as some tanks may be refitted with different weapons), or a modified chimera (like in Duty calls) or perhaps its something akin to a Rapier laser destroyer.



Page 319
Ludd followed Kronn back to his command vehicle, a gleaming super-Hydra with twin quad turrets.
Super-hydra. it has EIGHT barrels :P



Page 319
“The line’s left us behind a little. I suggest you move forward in formation about five hundred metres, maybe a touch more. We have to seal up this side of the line. More importantly, we have to start hitting the enemy sections. You may not have a large complement of treads, sir, but your Hydras and multi-laser carriages pack a serious fire rate."
Given the distance of the Dev Hetra, and the implied distance covered, we migth estimate a km or a km and a half range, perhaps? Not definite, but we know hydras have that range from Honour Guard anyhow.



Page 320
Stumble-guns were virtually spherical frames of plated steel, three metres in diameter. The muzzles of plasma-beam cannons jutted out from their carcasses like the spines of a sea-urchin. They rolled and bounced across the field of war, heavy and relentless, propelled by some kind of inertial drive, spilling out random beams of destructive energy.
..
The stumble-guns weren’t solid. Well armoured and heavily plated, as well as being wrapped in rusty razor wire, they were still frameworks. Gaunt glimpsed the operators inside the balls, supported in stabilized, gyro-mounted cockpits that remained upright against the turn of the ball-cages around them.
Stumble-guns, more insane mechanisms of war from the Chaos mindset. They don't think like us in every ways, although they have the technology to pull off such bizarrity. Gyroscopic and not solid.

The 'inertial drive' is interesting, although I have no clue how it would work.


PAge 321
A direct plasma beam, especially the crude, stream-blasts of a stumble-gun, severed a human body quite thoroughly. A bright beam ripped along an entire platoon of fleeing men, and their torsos left their legs behind. Gaunt saw a Fortis colour sergeant trying to struggle out of a ditch. A beam touched him, bright as the sun, and the man fell in two directions, bisected vertically down the length of his spine.
Raking/cutting plasma blasts, rather than cremating or exploding. Rather like a lance.



Page 321
A Binar Vanquisher stormed forward over the ditches, and hit one of the stumble-guns squarely with a shot from its turret weapon. The stumble-gun rocked back, over and over, like a kicked ball, and then began to rotate towards the tank again. It squealed and fired.
The tank’s armour caved in like wet paper and it began to burn.
Stumble gun plasma can punch through front tank armour. Vanquisher round knockback on stumble gun. We dont know how fast they move, but even assuming a few m/s, and assuming a 3 m diameter ball of iron 90% empty space would mass some 11,200 kg. at 2-3 m/s, thats at least 22,400-33,600 kg*m/s of momentum for the projectile. Assuming a 10 kg APFSDS type round we'd have an apprxoimate velocity of 2.24 -3.36 km/s pprojectile which is 25-57 MJ. That's about equivlaent to 'hypervelocity' from Sabbat Martyr, considering the conqueoror guns are also HV (figure 2-3 km/s for Vanquishers, given 1.5-2 km/s or so for Russes, and 1-1.5 km/s for Conquoers estimated.)



Pgae 322
The nearest stumble-gun suddenly stopped firing, and rolled to a halt. Gaunt ran towards it, expecting at every step to be incinerated.
Which could mean anything from a few MJ (Bad burns, say 125 j per sq cm) to outright cremation (Several GJ.)



Page 323
It had trampled into a break of larch and coster, and was slicing out plasma beams at the Binar armour as it revved its inertials to clatter free.
stumble-gun inertials again.



PAge 329
As it expired, one of the stumble-gun’s final, spasmodic plas-beams vapourised his head.
Head vape. ten MJ or so?




Page 332-333
“Gereon really messed you lot up, didn’t it?” Kolea said softly. “I think you all got so self-reliant, you’ve forgotten how to trust anyone.”
“You don’t know what it was like,” Feygor growled.
“No, I don’t. You bastards still won’t tell me. But I think I just hit a nerve, didn’t I? You’ve forgotten how to trust.”
“We trust each other,” Rawne said. “And we trust Gaunt.”
And that kind of hits the nerve of the Gereon folk. The whole 'trouble fitting in' and 'trauma' thing comes to a head of sorts, because they DO have trouble trusting. Its become so habitual and fundamental to their survival, that the transition is troublesome... that includes trusting people outside the Gereon circle (or being comfortable with them). That, coupled with the lack of understanding, creates the barriers we've seen between the Gereon team and the rest of the Ghosts. It's not til Criid reminds the rest of the team what Gaunt said (if Gaunt is gone somehow, they should obey and follow whoever is put in charge of them like they were Gaunt.) Which ironically works because they trust Gaunt.



Page 341-344
The stalker, thrice-wrought, eight hundred kilos, emerged from the hole as if it was sliding out of the surface of a mirror.
..
“Eat this,” said Maggs, and fired. The searing beam from the pistol vapourised the stalker’s enormous skull in an astonishing burst of blood and bone chips.

But the sheer momentum of the thrice-wrought’s attack carried its mammoth, headless carcass on
800 kg sTalker (not Crookshank) had his head 'vapourised' by plasma pistol shot. As previously discussed, assuming 8% of total body mass in the head.. thats 64 kilos. If we assume 70% water and vaporization it woudl be at least 100+ MJ. It isnt totally vaporized, though, so it may not be totally accurate. Then again 64 kilos is also enough for a torso or two, which is Greande/Tube charge level damage at least (or rather a grenade or two.) which again is at least a megajoule or two of energy.

If we assume the head is half a metre by half a metre and go with 4th degree (flaying' calcs as well.. thats 1 MJ per side.. possibly 4-6 MJ for entire head, approximately.

If we go with the death ray 'blaster' calcs, 5 MJ total (250 kj per pulse, 20 pulses, 5mm spot size and 10 microsecond delay between pulses) would also blow apart the skull (although not factoring in the head armoring, or bone)

Overall, single to triple digit MJ at least seems reasonable for the plasma pistol. (Which I might add is Harks'.)



Page 345-346
It wasn’t as big or mature as the beast that had come out of the hole, but it was still big enough. Three hundred kilos plus, thick with muscle, its plated skull half a metre long, its teeth the size of fingers.
..
It gurgled and opened its jaws, slotting its teeth in and out of position as it tasted a new target to bite.
Rawne threw the tube-charge into its wide open smile.
The stalker’s jaws closed. There was a brief rumble, and then it blew apart, showering the whole clearing with greasy blood and lumps of meat.
Rawne blows a 300 kilo wrought to pieces with a tube charge. Assuming 4-5x the mass of a normal human or therabouts, its probably equal to that many grenades or more, meaning a tube charge is equal to about 900-1250 grams of TNT or thereabouts.

It goes without saying that the consistent 'tube charge= powerpack' parallels I've done based off Merrt's lasgun later in the series indicate that lasguns are anywhere from 25 kj per shot (150 shots) to 105 kj per shot (50 shots.) Scale to yield as appropriate (EG 300 shots would be 12.5 kj, 25 shots would be 210 kj, 40 shots would be 131 kj, etc.)


Page 346-347
“Microbead links have a range of about ten kilometres, tops, major. This baby—” he patted his vox-caster set, “well, she’s good for global work. The point is, look here.”

Beltayn indicated a particular gauge on the vox-set. “That’s the range finder. We call it the booster. See, see how it’s hunting?”

..

“I’ve got signals from their microbeads, which suggests they’re somewhere within a ten-kilometre spread from here. But the set is hunting madly for a fix. Like they’re also out of range.”

“Out of range?” said Rawne. “Out of global range?”
A bit of comms stuff. micro beads have a range of up to 10 km (longest microbead range in any fluff yet) and field vox sets are 'global' range. One assumes this takes into account line of sight and other obstacles which can limit range (as well as weather and atmospheric conditions, etc.) so the max potential range may depend on various factors like elevation and such. Certainly the 'global' range would rquire bouncing the signal off something, one would think.

Field voxes can also 'range find' to pick up micro bead singles, apparnetly for boosting (and I'm guessing relaying signals via the field vox back and forth amongst micro beads, thereby extending range.. like in the Cain novels.)



Page 349
. Mkoll and Maggs were sprawled at his feet, lifeless, caked in frost. The corpse of a stalker lay nearby, its skull destroyed by a tube-charge.
even with just a head destoryed we're talking probably equivalent to a human torso, which would be similar magnitude to grenade level damage. We might also infer that plasma pistols and tube charges are similar magnitude for destructive ness in this context :P



Page 358
Zweil tutted. “Flesh wound? Flesh wound? They’re all flesh wounds! No one ever says ‘Ooh, look! I’ve just been shot in the bones, but it missed my flesh completely!’ It’s a load of old nonsense, is what it is. It’s a phrase you heroic warrior types trot out so you can sound manly and stoic. ‘Bah, it’s just a flesh wound! Only a flesh wound! I can carry on!’ Nonsense!”
“Father—”
“I’ve heard men say that when a leg’s come off!”
Massively certain its a Monty Python reference, but funny all the same.



Page 362
“I can only confirm what these people have told you, Gaunt. The stalkers clearly enter the compartments via portals. Warp gates. I don’t know what you’d call them. They’re like trap doors, letting the bastards out after dark, right in amongst us.”
“This is a character of the Mons, you think?”
..
“The various standing stones in the inner terrain seem to be the focal points of the gates. Throne, I don’t know. I’m no expert in these things. In my opinion, the Mons is wired to let them through. It’s built into the architecture. Established warp gates, networked to I don’t know where. This isn’t a level playing field.”
Chaos using warp gates to mobilize and deploy troops within the step cities, explaining the Imperial Guard's difficulties in fighting them.



PAge 362
“And the stalkers themselves?” Gaunt asked, looking at Dorden, who was standing in the doorway of the habi-tent.

“Tissue samples say they’re ogryns,” Dorden said, “with some human genetic material. The creations of some vicious eugenic program. Their brains are modified for absolute aggression. We’re talking about human and ogryn specimens who have been stripped down, rebuilt and programmed just to kill.”
Ogryn and human can evidently cross breed, which isn't suprriising since they are both technically humans (of a sort.) Also gives an indicator that all the 'wrought' reflect ogryn masses, which is variable, but many times bigger than a normal human (close to a ton in the further end.) since no mention is made of altering their bulk per se. Indeed the masses may be a bit understated given the implied eugenics going on (breeding ogryn with human.. half ogres.)



Page 363
“The corpse I was autopsying, it had dog tags buried in the flesh of its throat. I mean overlapped by skin graft and regrowth. The tags identified a Trooper Olios Ollogred, Fifth Storm Faction (Ogryn), 21st Hurgren Regiment. I checked it out. The 21st is currently in action on Morlond.”
“They’re sending our own people back to fight us,” Novobazky said.

“It seems so,” Gaunt replied. “And they’re sending them back through punctures in the warp. Anyone here remember the jehgenesh?” he asked.
Again reflecting the somewhat alien mindset of Chaos sometimes. They modify/mutate/alter Imeprial troosp and send them back as shock troops or enemies. Efficient and in a way horrific, which is suitably chaos (and alien to even the rather harsh Imperial mindset, which has certain psychological values to it as well.)

Also Gaunt speculates that the jehgenesh from Traitor general - the giant warp-worms used to teleport natural resources of a liquid or gaseous nature from one planet to another, may also be used to transport troops. Again if so that is a considerable tacticla advantage, a bit like the webway for Eldar, in fact. Or the Necrons portals/wormholes (like from Monoliths.)




Page 369
“The Ordo Xenos has established, through analysis of recovered specimens, that the so-called ‘stalkers’ are augmetically enhanced humans and, more often ogryns,” said Welt. “This information has been suppressed for reasons of morale. The unauthorised autopsy you have been conducting here, and all evidence bearing from it, will be sequestered by the Inquisition.”
Again mention of the stalkers, but with augmetic enhancement. THey can also be humans it seems, but usualyl Ogryn. Again as well their psychological value as weapons as well as 'efficiency. Oh and the Inquisition knew and suppressed the info. :P



page 371-372
“The cities are just delivery systems to bring them through. The Blood Pact armies are not waiting for us in the next compartment or the one after that. They’re simply coming out of the gates. Mkoll suggested that the main compartment gates are large scale versions of the doors the stalkers use.”
..
“I sometimes think we’re guilty of underestimating our old foe, inquisitor. The Ruinous Powers operate with levels of guile and sophistication that we scarcely credit. On Gereon, we witnessed them using jehgenesh. Gigantic warp creatures that were bred to consume a planet’s natural resources, such as fresh water or mineral ore, and excrete them via the warp to supply planets light years away. They are not destroyers, they are users. If they work on that kind of scale, why should it surprise us if they deploy entire armies that way, in places like this, where the ancient mechanisms for such transmission still exist?”

“I subscribe to the theory that the Imperium’s worst enemy,” said Welt, “is its own ignorance.”
Welt and Gaunt discuss the situation. This scene does a great job of playing up the Inquisitor as a character. He's got a use for the Ghosts, but he's not quite their ally either. He thinks they may be of use (see below) and he simply wants to preserve them for the potential benefit of the Imperium. His views on ignorance, and his willingness to rein in Balshin and the fanatics, point to him being more Radical in his leanings than Puritan, although that doesn't mean he doesn't have the Status Quo/Imperium's best interests at his heart. It is, after all, only because Gaunt's existence may serve a greater good that he intervened with Balshin.

We also get indication that Chaos is, again, not stupid. They've got some sneaky ways to mobilize and deploy forces which give them a considerable advantage over Chaos, and the comparison to the Jehgenesh from Traitor General emphasizes that. It gives them advatnages not unlike the Necrons and Eldar (and helps offset any orbital superiority that the Imperial Crusade may have.) We also get emphasis on the Chaos ''philsoohpy' of the enemy as Gaunt has learned by his time of Gereon. This is indeed interesting, especially as Welt seems receptive to that data - its not just enough to defeat the enemy, you have to understand them at least some (even at the risk of becoming them) to defeat them. The understanding of what motivates Chaos against the Crusade and what they are capable of is a big part of this sequence's theme.

Apparently also those Jehgenesh can move solid as well as liquid/gaseous matter, which is interesting.



Page 372
“And there’s only one thing keeping you alive.”

“What’s that?”

“Me,” Welt said. “If you and your team could survive as long as you did on that hell-hole world without succumbing to taint, then for the sake of the Imperium and the protection of our species, I have to find out why.”
Welt again comes across as something of a Radical, but not a self serving one. He's certainly no Monodominant at least, if he's holding Balshin in abeyance. Indeed there is somethign very Eisenhorn/Ravenor-esque about in, in his desire to do something for the good of humanity, rather than because he thinks its what's best.



Page 377
“Formal order was given for the immediate staged withdrawal of Imperial Guard forces from Sparshad Mons and all other step-cities on this planet. Orbital manoeuvres are now underway to deploy the Fleet in geo-synchronous positions for surface bombardment. It is estimated they will have firing solutions in eight hours.”
What was going to be done before is being done now by Van Voytz' order. Geosynch bombardment of the cities.



PAge 379-380
..there’d be spaces on one of the Destrier-pattern heavy carriers ..
..
The deck supervisor called them, and they walked with the other waiting men towards one of the bulky Destriers. It was an ugly, obese flier, its hull flaking grey. The side hatch was open, and they clambered into the battered, bare metal hold and made themselves comfortable in the small, wall-mounted strap-downs.

Another of the Destriers lifted away in a huge din of thrust and flying grit.
Destrier pattern heavy carrier.. cargo shuttle or flier or whatever. Probably antigrav since it doesnt require a runway to lift off - or at least vectored thrust.



Page 385-386
Small-arms fire pattered through the trees, and Keshlan fell with a sharp cry.
..
“I’m all right, sir,” Keshlan said. His face was white with shock.

“Where’d they get you?”

“Just caught my body armour, sir. Shoulder plate’s pretty smacked up, but I’m all right.”
Wilder examined him. A hard round had torn clean through Keshlan’s shoulder plating and broken the skin. A few centimetres to the right and Keshlan would have taken it in the throat.
I'm guessing the round was stopped by the plate, but it managed to penetrate through just enough to break skin, suggesting its a pointed round. But it was still stopped. We dont know what kind of 'hard' round, other than it is small arms fire. IF we go by Straight Silver and Storm of Iron, flak should at least stop bolt-action (eg full calibre) rifle rounds.. so this might be something of that magnitude or a bit better, assuming Belladon body armour was equal to Tanith.

It coudl also just relfect that Mkoll was a bit lucky in STraight silver - perhaps Tanith (or Belladon) body armor cannot always stop such rounds, or it may depend on the design of the round (The one in Straight silver flattened as I reclal, whilst this one seems to have been pointed. It could very well be armor piercing ammo whilst the other wasn't.) Also like with Straight Silver, this can carry certain implicaitons for las-fire resilience (at least against certian kinds of lasweapons) and vice versa.

I should also note that depending on sources autocannon can mean something up to 7.62mm NTAO easily, but can also mean very small ammo moving at high velocity (Rogue Trader for example implies that Imperial slughthrowers may be hypersonic, as the Rak'Gol have hypersonic weapons and their tech is inferior to the Imperium's in a general sense.)



Page 392
Guheen looked left and right, halted as shots whipped past, and then started his run to Caffran’s side, the heavy rocket bag over his shoulder.

He got three metres, and a hard round from the Blood Pact infantry went into the side of his head. Everything inside his skull came out in a shower on the other side. Before he’d even started to fall, two more shots had ripped into him, screwing his flailing body around, forcing it to lose all structure and semblance of humanity.
Effect of 'hard rounds' from a Blood Pact weapon. We dont know if its a small arm or support weapon, but it is damn powerful (and its implied to be an infantryman's weapon) - at least full power. Given we know lasguns can achieve similar levels of damage per bolt, (headsploding, etc.) we could infer the lasguns probably are capable of comparable levels of damage (which is conisstent with the Wargear and Munitorum manual depiction) as well as giving us an indicator of the power of the Blood Pact's solid slug weapons (which plays onto the earlier bit about body armor, reinforcing the 'probably full power' round idea.)



Page 393
Nearby, Mkillian cried out as a las-round killed him and knocked him back off the rocks.
Las round knockback again, since he died before the knockback (at least by context) we might infer its kinetic effect, implying tens of kj KE (or energy to vaporize) at least.



Page 394-395
Seventy metres behind him, Wilder was confronting Baskevyl, Feygor and Meryn.
..
“There were plenty of them on the munition train last time I looked. Packed with compressive diotride D-6. Explosive putty, very nasty."
Distance from the frontlines, and also mention of IG explosives by name.



Page 398
Shots were winging up from the Blood Pact in the lower basin. They had suddenly realised that a recon force had sneaked around behind them. Cager fell, dead. Mkella toppled over, his chest torn apart.
What tore open his chest we dont know, but its powerful.


PAge 398
A las-round hit Meryn in the arm, and exploded his bicep in a shower of bloody meat.
At least single digit kj.. dont know if its a glancing hit or direct hit. Also indicative of explosive damage and fairly sizble holes and probably overpenetration at that.



Page 399
Feygor began to laugh. He threw aside the detonator pack and rose to his feet.
A las-round smacked into his chest. He fell down onto his knees, gurgling and coughing blood.
Feygor survived Gereon only to die at the end of this book. At least he thought he'd achieved his goal (even though he hadn't,



Page 402
Half a kilometre back, in a stretch of burning woodland, Rawne, Kolea and Baskevyl had established decent bounding cover between the men they brought with them. Two sections would sustain fire while the third fell back. It worked against the foot troops and the ranks of grotesque mutants that poured into the tree-line.
Again implied half km or more engagement range for the Tanith/Belladon weapons. If we figure they were at least 70m ahead before for the enemy (perhaps a few hundred m, givne Caffran's estimated range with the Tread Fether.. maybe 100-200 metres?) we might figure anywhere from 570-600 to 770-800+ metres range. That isn't definite of course, but we know from Legion that lascarbines (at least from the Crusade era) had that kind of range, and it snot impossible here either.




Page 410
“Stand firm, A Company! Fury of Belladon! Hold this line and deny them!”
His amplified voice echoed out across the bleak hillside, carrying his command away into the rain and the raging night.
His last command.
Wilder and his company have a last stand, forming the rearguard to hold off the Chaos forces whilst the rest of the Imperial forces (including the Tanith and Belladon remnants) escape. Its interesting because its a bit sad and tragic in a way. In this novel we get to know and meet Wilder, and he's really given a shit task, especially when it comes to Rawne and the Gereon crowd and their arrival. He has to deal with their distrust and attempts to fit back in, the disruption it causes with the Ghosts, and so on, and he generally came out on the end of that (despite trying his best.) And when Gaunt arrives at the very end (Before this last stand) I think he realizes in the end that the Ghosts would never be his, not truly his, as long as Gaunt lived. I really pity him for that, because he did take good care of them and the Ghosts had settled in, but Gaunt kinda ruined that for him.

He evne realizes this, which is why he (instead of Gaunt) formed the rearguard.. he couldn't compete with Gaunt (the person much less the memory), so the only thing he could contribuet was to allow Gaunt to return to command and to get his TAnith/Verghastites (and the Belladons) out and alive.

the last phrase 'His Last command' which is the title of this book, has four intended meanings, each at a different point of the book. When the Gereon team returns and Gaunt learns the Tanith have been amalgamated into the Belladon, he realizes they were 'his last command.' Later, when Rawne and co decide to go off on a little scouting mission to discover the gates (at Gaunt's behest.) Tona reminds them of Gaunt's 'last command' to the Tanith prior to GEreon.. which is another meaning.

And here we have the other two, a dual meaning, but applying to Wilder. The literal sense in the 'last command' he gave (stand firm against Chaos), as well as being his last 'command' as a Colonel and leader of men. And that is perhaps the most tragic of the meanings, because he's sacrificing himself for a man who basically took everything away from him (without intneding too.) and Wilder certainly did not deserve it. Its actually more bittersweet for me than Feygor's death was, because Feygor was a bastard, but Wilder was a genuinely decent guy.



Page 411
Even from a great distance, it was impossible for observers to look directly at the bombardment without niters or glare-shades. Devastating pillars of white light came down from the top of the sky and burned deep, black holes into the world.

It took the warships of the Imperial Navy five hours of sustained orbital bombardment to wipe the ancient and cursed stones of the monolithic cities from existence.

In the days that followed, all that remained at the sites where the step-cities had once stood were gaping wounds in the earth, some a kilometre deep. Within these slowly cooling cavities, jewelled beauty lurked. The fury of the weapons had transformed the rock and sand, fusing it into swathes of glass that glinted and swam with colour in the bright sun.
...

Just after midnight, Gaunt was amongst the many hundreds of Imperial officers congregated on the hull-top landing pads of one of the command Leviathans to watch the distant doom of Sparshad Mons.
Step cities destroyed via orbitla bombardment. We dont know the kinds of weapons involved, how many ships (other than its a 'fleet', which probably means dozens perhaps hundreds of warships) or even for sure how big the Step cities are. We know they're like artificial mountains, and they extend at least for tens of km.. hinting strongly to 100 km or more. We also dont know destructive effects.

Assume between 10-100 km, and 10-100 ships. If we figure Each ship delivers 100 shots a second over 5 hours (18,000 seconds) with 8 cities of similar size and figure a km upwards as well as downwards... each shot affects a volume roughly 9000 cubic meters and 9 million cubic meters in volume. each shot woudl be at least single or double digit tons (single/double digit kt/sec per broadside) and single/double digit kilotons per shot each second. If we figure melting to any degree is involved that would add upwards of 10 kilotons to 10 megatons per shot. If we assume the interior of the crater was melted to about a metre depth for each city, you might get an extra 1.5 tons to 1.5 kilotons per shot.

And thats as precise as I can make it. We dont even know if its max power shots (nothign says they intend to destroy the planet, possibly just occupy it) as there are other cities involved and the step cities were ismply the locales that Chaos retreated to once driven from them.
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Post by Connor MacLeod »

And we're closing on the end of this cycle with 'Armour of Contempt' Gaunt and company, now unified and fully integrated both old comrades and new, return to the place where this all began in Traitor General - Gereon. still under chaos control, the Crusade now intends to liberate it... because it is believed that some property about it may promote Chaos resistance in humans, and as we've learned from previous work, corruption is a severe issue on this front of the Crusade (neglected by Macaroth as it is.)

And as the Ghosts pursue their own personal little crusade, the other major plot in this story revolves around Dalin Criid and Merrt, both of whom are separated from their regiment and placed into impromptu 'conscript' formations for the invasion. They get a less comfy view of the war from the eye of the grunt - Dalin's trial by fire is not the dreams of being a Guardsmen he had but are dark and gritty and bleak (but not grimdark. Abnett writing you know.) and it really changes his world because he is no longer the boy Tona saved and raised.

On top of that we also get the first real chance for the Belladon portions of the regiment to shine and define themselves. Integration actually goes much smoother than it did with the Tanith/Verghastite components, but there are still rough spots and we start to define the Belladon 'characters.' And of course we have plenty of twists and turns as we've learned to expect from these latter novels, and people die.

Short update as the Ghosts stuff goes. Two posts.

Page 18
“Welcome, you sons and daughters of bitches, to RIP detail. Let us be sure we understand what those letters stand for. ‘R’ is… I’m waiting?”

“Retraining, driller,” they murmured.
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“And the ‘I’ is for…?”

“Indoctrination, driller!”

“Getting there. Good. And the ‘P’? You all know what that means?”

“Punishment, driller!”

RIP training. Basically the 'in-transit' stuff we sometimes hear about in Guard fluff. Six weeks in this case, where new recruits (like Dalin Criid as we learn) either get the indoctirnation and training they need, or in the case of PDF types retraining (or for Guard who need further training). And of course the Punishment (and probably retraining) for screwups.

At the end of this little scene Tona comes up and meets Dalin, acting all mom-ish and generally makign sure he's doing okay (although most moms wouldn't offer to kill the training officer who beat him.) This scene was interesting to me as it shows Tona has recovered much from Gereon, become more of a human and the mother to Dalin she was. Although not totally, as we learn with Caffran later, its still kind of reassuring to me (and funny.)

We also learn that Dalin is aware that Kolea is his real father, Caffran his adopted. Plot point resolved (at least partly.)



Page 23-24
For an issue scrip, a trooper could eat basic heated rations in the Munitorum halls, but the promise of something different drew hundreds of them to the swelter decks at the end of every day cycle. That, and the fact you could get drink here, and indulge other vices, if you knew who to ask.

The swelter decks existed because of the “followers on the strength”. Every Guard regiment trailed after it an entourage of attendant personnel: wives, children, girlfriends, whores, faith healers, preachers, beggars, tinkers, hucksters, tooth-pullers, contrabandeers, scribes, loan-sharks and a whole panoply of shadowy souls who lived, like parasites, like fleas, on the coat-tails of the military. Hark had been told that some regiments doubled in size when you factored in the hangers-on.

The swelter decks were where they lived and ate, and dealt and traded. He’d once heard a junior commissar suggest the camp followers be purged from the fleet. “It would reduce Munitorum costs by nearly fifty per cent,” the junior had announced brightly.

“Yes,” Hark had smiled, “and the following day, every Guardsman in the quadrant would desert.”
Swelter decks. We've heard about the 'camp followers' of the Ghosts in previous books, but this is more in depth than usual. Its basically an unofficial adjunct to the Guard and Munitorum's official logistical/support arm, providing an alternative (as well as a means of distracting and blowing off steam.) Some sources suggest this sort of activity (unessential troops, gear, etc.) is not always carried by the Munitorum, so I suspect like most things its a region by region thing. In this case, given Hark's atttiude, I imagine influential officers (like Slaydo, or Van Voytz and so on) have prevailed on the Munitorum to allow this despite the cost and probable irregularity.

On the other hand, it also means that the Guards can be fed, clothed, supplied by means other than official supply channels, which (probably) means it doesnt come out of Munitorum stores, and if there is anything a Munitorum bureaucrat likes more than acquiring more supplies to hoard, it is not having to dish out preciously hoarded materials and disturb all his paperwork and lists, so that is a reason they may put up with it. Another example of my little 'theory vs practice in the Guard' theme.

I also doubt the cost of hauling them along is nearly so high as hauling the 'official' supplies.

Surprisingly from the text, the food sounds edible and even palatable. Hardly any rat in it. Or corpse starch. :P




Page 27
Junior Ecclesiarchy adepts with ink-stained fingers were moving through the crowd, circulating Lectitio Divinitatus texts still damp from the block presses.
The Lectitio Divinitatus seems to be floating around still. HH stuff is creeping into other stuff by this point in all BL books.




Page 29
“Are we to execute him?” Ludd asked bluntly.

“What? No!” Hark said. “Throne, no! You think I’m that hardline, Ludd?”

“I don’t know you, sir,” said Ludd. “I wanted to understand your thinking.”

Hark nodded. “Sound, then. Decent question. No, I won’t shoot him. Unless he gives me real cause. He’s one of our own, Ludd, and we’ve come to save him before he tips over the brink. For the good of Trooper Merrt and the regiment. Morale and discipline dance a delicately balanced polka, Ludd."
I don't know if this is Gaunt's influence, or Hark's own views on discipline, but I suspect the former, given how he acted in Honour Guard. Still its a sign of a decent Commissar, as Hark is much more of one than Gaunt is (at least all-around. Gaunt still beats Hark out in the inspiration and lead by example category.)

This is also interesting because this whole scene involves Hark sort of 'blanking out' and having what I call (for lack of a better term) daydreams. I suspect this is a hint at something that happens in the last book of the Sequence, Only in Death.




Page 30
Ludd had made out Trooper Merrt at a side table, amongst a card school. There was no mistaking him. A round to the mouth on Monthax years ago had blown his jaw out, and he now sported a crude augmetic implant.
Merrt. First introduced character-wise in Ghostmaker, has his jawn blown off, he pops up again in Straight Silver when we find he's fallen quite far since his injury. Now he resurfaces for his little contribution to this Sequence, here and in the last book. The augmetic bit confirms my original assessment calc wise, I think.



Page 30
Music was playing, loud “pound” music issuing from battered vox-horns wired up in the tent roof. Several lightly clad girls sashayed through the crowd, hoisting trays of drinks, moving their skinny hips in time to the beat. There was no joy in their eyes, nor any bounce in their step. Pawer paid them to swing their bodies to the music as part of their jobs.
Pound music. I think this is Abnett's term for rock or something. Anyhow, this scene really just struck out out at me as being.. bleak. Kinda sad. Bereft of life. Much more grim than all the grimdark in 40K all combined, I think. Maybe its just because I have an imagination, or it could be I mentally contrasted this with other non-bleak 'establishments' we see in the Eisenhorn and RAvenor novels. In some of those there was at least a sense of.. vitality. Here its all very dead, mechanical... the whole purpose simply to do a job, get paid, and endure. Seeing humans reduced to that base level is just.. bleak.



Page 31
Ex-Guard. In “the strength”, ex-Guard were usually the worst kinds of predator.
Again showing not every Imperial Guardsmen is a shining and noble defender of humanity. Some of them are like Cuu - real bastards or monsters.



PAge 33
The knife came first, a glint of steel.
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The knife came first, and Hark simply caught its blade in his augmetic grip. He squeezed. It snapped with a sound like a dull bell.
Hark's augmetic hand can break a steel (presumably steel of some kind) knife blade. Considering how big Tanith warknives get, that could be quite impressive, feat-wise.




Page 34
They were on fight time now, that unreal measure of passing moments that seemed an eternity while it lasted but in reality was just a handful of seconds. Fight time. Instinct time.
Fight time. I dont think its a weird supernaturla 'bullet time' effect per se (Although given 40K and the warp, who knows) but more a psychological perception thing.. sort of a feeling like time dilates in times of stress (like war). One of those 'war theme' things. Ludd experiences it later as well, and Hark identifies it.




Page 35
The fifth man was wearing a chain fist. It had undoubtedly cost him a great deal on the black trade.
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Hark deflected the strike with his augmetic hand. Drilled chips of steel and black plastek flew off his hand-plant as the buzzing weapon wrenched away.

A knife was one thing, but you didn’t fool with a chain fist. It offered no latitude, no second chances. The moment the chain fist appeared, the situation stopped being aggravating and became serious.
Chain fist. Probably not powered, and I'm not even sure if its legitimate or sanctioned or some sort of cheap knockoff/counterfeit. In any case it hints at chainfists of some kidn being made in human sizes, rather than 'fuckoff huge Terminator' size. Hark's augmetic is steel and plastek but it can fend off the chainfist largely unharmed.



Page 36
He reached into his coat pocket and hooked out his vox.

“Hark to Commissariate control.”

“Reading you, commissar.”

“Verify my position via vox-link.”

“Verified, commissar. One eight one oh low quarters.”

“Thank you. Despatch a handling team to that location."
Aboard ship (at least) Hark has a hand vox rather than a micro bead, and his position can be homed in on (locator beacon, at least aboard ship.)



Page 38
“This place persists thanks to the tolerant attitude of this vessel and its Commissariat function."
The Commisariate is aware of these unofficial locales, and their existence is at the tolerance of said organization.




Page 39
"You know the turbine halls, Junior Commissar Nahum Ludd?”

“By the reactor engines? Yes.”

“Furnace domes down there. Big and hot. Melt skin and bone in a second. We kill a trooper or two who insults my establishment, there’s no trace. All gone in a puff of ash."
First, reactors and engines - at least on a troop transport, are synonymous. Second, there are turbines down there (probably to generate electrical power, and I'm guessing they draw power off the engines.) Whether this is to the troop transports or if warships use something else (or how the turbines even work, mind.) its up for debate.

I'm also not sure what the furnaces are for (maybe they shove the solid promethium into those) but they can cremate a person in an instant. Hundreds of megajoules at least for a single furnace, probably gigajoules as the minimum. If its a 'furnace' for power production, the input probably has to exceed the output by a significant margin. Actually in this case, its implied it could handle multiple bodies easily, as Ludd and Merrt are both intended to be tossed in. :P




Page 40-41
A gunshot rang out, and something hot and wet splashed across the back of Ludd’s head and shoulders.
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Viktor Hark stepped into Ludd’s field of vision. He was aiming a large combat automatic at Pawer.
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He looked behind him. A body lay on the ground, a pistol in its hand. The headshot had blown most of its cranium away. Ludd realised what was dripping down his back.
Hark 'headsplodes' human head with a 'combat automatic' which I gather is either a stub or a autoweapon, and a powerful one at that. One assumes laspistols can be similarily powerful (Single digit kj maybe)




Page 42-43
Now she was Sergeant Criid, the regiment’s first female officer, a comrade and a friend, her military record outstanding, her worth proved ten times over. Larkin owed her his life, more than once, and had returned the favour, more than once.
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..Larkin would never have imagined befriending her, or admiring her.
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He admired her now. For everything she’d done, and everything she was, and every charge she’d led against the Archenemy of Mankind. But most of all, he admired her for being a mother to two kids who weren’t hers. For raising them in this squalid, itinerant life.

She’d done a good job. The boy was tall, strong, good looking. Like his father. He had a confidence to him, and smarts, and an easy way with others. And it wasn’t just what he was. It was what he represented.

Larkin observing (and contemplating) Dalin Criid. This is interesting for several reasons. One, whilst the Gereon team seems to have fit into the regiment (largely) again (my earlier comments regarding Tona Criid.) the old bonds still remain (such as between Larkin and Tona.) Which isn't really surprising. Things always change, but not everything will change. The second interesting poitn is that this whole scene reflects the Tanith - not just Larkin - watching (and watching over) Dalin. When you consider how often in the series it was mentioned that the Camp Followers did that (and regarded Tona and Caffran as a 'happy' story in the Guard) and I suspect since Brin Milo left the Regiment needs a 'lucky charm' of sorts. Dalin might be that replacement. At the very least he's some sort of symbol to them, so many of the Ghosts seem to have an emotional investment in him. Representative of and hope for a future they fear that war might deprive them of, perhaps? There is a definite 'Milo-like' feel to how the entire scene is described, the 'one of them, but not one of them' Dalin mentions closely echoes Milo prior to his joining the regiment at age 18, at least.

Anyhow the Ghosts all prepared something special for him.



Page 46
Barrack Hall 22 was a vast enclosure given over to the billets of the Tanith First-and-Only. Across the concourse, the Kolstec 15th were housed in similar conditions. Something over four thousand troopers, packed away for the long voyage, for the long walk down Glory Road.
Not sure if its describing Tanith regiment size, Kolstec size, or both. I estimated the 81/1st from HLC as being around 4000 or more, minus A company (and losseS) so that might fit well with the Tanith. And the context certainly suggests its the TAnith being talked about as its their barracks (and the activities therein) described.




Page 46-48
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To a man and a woman, the Ghosts had risen to their feet all around him, and were clapping wildly. He stopped and blinked.
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Dalin blinked again and looked around at the smiling faces surrounding him. They looked… proud. Connected to him, like they owned him, in the very best way.
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This…” Dalin grinned. “This is…”

“The way Ghosts welcome one of their own,” said Domor, coming forward. “Dalin, this is a rare moment, so you’ll excuse us if we make the most of it.”
Its a bittersweet but still positive moment. Again the Ghosts seem to see some deep symbolic value in Dalin, more than just an excuse to celebrate something positive in an otherwise hard life. It's also great for the positive, uplifting aspects of brotherhood and comradeship... sort of like becoming a great, extended family.. Each person is connected to Dalin and looks out for him, and wishes him well. It offers 40K as a whole something more nuanced than the 'endless grimdark' crap, and it makes those moments of dark and grim actually dramatic when you have things like this to bounce it off of. It is also mentioned that usually the Ghosts get togther like this to say farewell to people who have died, so this is a rare exception to such get togethers, making it (for the ghosts) all the more precious.

IT is bittersweet because it involves Caffran, Dalin's adopted father, and Dalin seems not to be sure what to make of him now that Kolea is in the picture. In many ways this novel is Dalin's, charting his progress as much as it does anything else, in transition from 'camp follower' to 'ghost'. Also Criid makes her appearance, and in mom fashion seeing her son go into the guard (knowing what she does of it) can be bleak as well as great. Kolea, despite being known to Dalin, is still holding back.

Oh and Gaunt shows up. Gaunt would of course, but thats also very symbolic. Even the leaders of the regiment wish him well and regard him, although part of me thinks the Gereon team (due to their tie with Tona) will have a special interest in him.




PAge 52
Gaunt had told Eszrah that it was a “mass conveyance”, a carrier ship. Several dozen regiments were being carried in its belly, more people than he’d seen in his whole life before leaving the Untill.

If we figure between 2 and 20K troops per regiment there's anywhere from 50K nearly to three quarters of a million estimated depending on how you define 'several' and the size breakdowns of course. IF we go with 2-3 dozen and around 4-5 thousand per regiment average 96,000 to 180,000. OF course several dozen could include armour and artillery and other regiments too so its just an approximatino.




Page 57
With his eyes closed, Eszrah could tell them apart quite easily. The resin sap of the Tanith, the mineral dust of the Verghastites, the hard steel of the Belladons. Eyes open, it was even more apparent. Tanith were lean and hard, pale skinned, dark haired. Verghastites were more solid, flatfaced and fairer. Belladons were between the two in their average build, darker-skinned, lighter in voice.
Differences between the different parts of the Tanith regiments




Page 62
“Anti-ague,” Gaunt replied. “Inhibitors. Full shots.”

“Double-dose standard,” Dorden said. “That was my instruction. Double-dose courses for all personnel, starting now.”

“We get ague drench before every planet-drop,” Baskevyl said, looking round at Gaunt with another noise from his chair.
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“But not double-dose and not a course,” Dorden said.
...
"When I led a mission team to Gereon, it was full insertion, enemy territory. They dosed us up real good, double shots. They knew we’d need to survive as long as possible on a world lousy with Chaos taint. Now, let’s think, your standard infantryman gets a shot in the arm or buttock every few weeks during transit, and never asks why."
A bit on Guard medical procedures before making planetfall on a new world. Ague and Inhibitors we learned about in Traitor General. Ague is standard for any destination it seems, whilst the latter seems to be standard issue when invading Chaos worlds (liberation.) Explaining perhaps hat they purge taint with ritual and faith when they retake worlds from Chaos.

The interesting thing here is that Gaunt is being very proactive. He's figured out (from the equipment like the anti-ague) what the high command intends, and he knows what it means, so that means preparations and training. He intends to handle the Ghosts that way and slip the world unofficially to other regiments. training and preparation, Theory vs practice style :P



Page 69-70
The las made a noise like a cane switch, and pulled badly to the left.
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The older trooper was adjusting the fore- and back-sights, lifting the gun to his shoulder to check between each adjustment.
Not sure if 'pull to the left' means the lasgun is out of alignment (the shot moves to the left or aims left via sights) or if its a recoil issue. The issued lasguns do have fore and backsights tho. They're previously identified as scrap weapons unfit for frontline use kept for training purposes.



Page 70-72
Everyone tensed to hear their name alongside the magic thirty or higher. Thirty was combat standard, the acceptable average grade a man had to make if he wanted to be Guard, like the weight and height and vision requirements.
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Most of the rest got in a band between thirty and thirty-five, with the top five per cent of them hitting fifty and above.
..

He wanted to say that it was probably less to do with marksmanship skill and more to do with simple weapon discipline and method, and that most of them would be scoring in the fifties if they simply took the time to check, adjust and listen to their rifle.
Marksmanship standards for training purposes. Minimum is 30 to be acceptable, but Dalin thinks they could do better with minimal effort. Dalin got a 66, which can be chalked up to his training time with Caffran (and one imagines that experience tells you what Ghost marksmanship training involved.) Of course the numbers don't seem to tell us much overall by themselves, but its still interesting




Page 80
Hark frowned. It was standard Guard practice, during long voyages, to adjust the length of shipboard day/night cycles to match those of the destination world, so that over a mid-to-long duration voyage, the troops would become accustomed to a different circadian rhythm. It helped with acclimatisation. The changes weren’t made in one fell swoop. Time was shaved off or added incrementally over a period of days. Synching to the noon watch kept everyone in step.
Acclimitisation to new day/night cycles en route to a new world.



Page 81
It involved looping the ship, end to end and back, following outer hull-skin corridors, twenty times. Kexie, who had paced the route, assured RIP that this was the equivalent of fifty kilometres.

Kexie did not march the whole distance with them. He’d go with them a way, and then cross the ship laterally via transit halls while they were toiling round the prow, or slogging through the low ducts over the enginarium, and meet them coming back up the far side.
Twenty times around means they'tre travelling some 2.5 km. Which is both sides and front and back, more or less. That comes out to approximately 1000 km long, and maybe 250 metres wide for the ship. Rather a small troop transport :P



Page 81
They jogged through the canyons behind the heavy hull skin plates, behind the riveted shield of the dust sheath.
Whipple shield perhaps? Protection against high velocity micro-impacts whilst in transit?




Page 82
They struggled through the stinking chambers of the husbandry and livestock section and the sweaty, marsh-gas fug of hydroponics.
Food supply of the transport. Beats corpse starch.



Page 82
He’d grown up understanding there was a basic strand of unfairness running through a soldier’s life. Soldiering was about the whole, about the unit, and about the way that unit functioned in terms of discipline and coherence. Once an individual got used to the disappointment of being levelled out whether he was right or wrong, he began to function with the unit, and life got easier.

He also understood the importance of examples.
Unsurprisingly, Guard trainign is about the team.. the squad, or whatever unit in question we're talking about.




Page 82
“You’re his father,” Criid repeated. “There’s nothing normal about the lives we lead, so I don’t believe it matters how you, me and Caff fit together, so long as we do. Dalin wouldn’t mind if you showed an interest.”
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“I’d go as far as to say he’d like it if you showed an interest.”
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“We’re walking Glory Road,” she said. “Sooner or later, we get to the end of that, and you know what’s waiting there. Leave it till then, and it could be too late.”
This book being Dalin's story, its not surprising that a subplot (That has been ongoing, and still is after a fashion) is Kolea and Dalin, and how it relates with Criid and Caffran. Kolea still hasn't faced his biological son, now training to be a trooper, despite everyone else in the regiment knowing and telling him (Varl, Dorden - who lost his son at Verghast, and thus his words have especial, symbolic importance - and now Criid.) The thing notable here is the whole 'glory road' thing.. another recurring element in this book, and its definite foreshadowing. Be honest before its too late, and someone dies.



Page 88-89
Not everyone in RIP would make it. Statistically, Caff had told Dalin, a reasonable chunk of any RIP detail got folded in again for another shakedown. The rate was higher on the Second Front, where the abnormally high percentage of sub-standard troop quality was the Crusade’s shame.
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Sooner or later, the repeat malingerers just got kicked out of the service, which is what most of them wanted, or got executed by the Commissariat, which is what most of them didn’t.
RIP percentages. If they fail, try again. Despite the commisarial reputation for summary execution, not even human lives are wasted casually (at least in theory. LOL) Or until they demonstrate they are worthless (which is a pretty broad description in the Guard considering their usual intake.)




Page 91
Merrt sighed. “Know what I used to get? On an average day, I mean?”

“No?”

“Ninety-seven,” Merrt said. “Ninety-seven, without any trouble. It was just in me. Range best was ninety-nine on three occasions.” A consistent, sustainable ninety-four got a man a marksman’s lanyard. Dalin knew specialists the likes of Raess, Banda and Nessa Bourah, even Larks himself, were happy with a steady ninety-five.
Merrt's former scores and the general scoring that ranks marksman/sniper duty. Again its hard to knwo what the numbers mean, but I think it tells us something about what is considered minimally acceptable, vs what is 'best' in Guard terms. And recall Dalin thought fifties woudl be good,a nd he himself is doing 65-70+ and is considered 'good' by recruit standards. merrt is making the sixties. Of course to him what is good for a trooper is horrible for a sniper, which only upsets him further.

As an aside, since I can't find any other place t stick it, Tona wakes up after having a dream (or vision) About Gaunt. She's back sleeping with Caffran, so another sign she's fitted in again.



Page 95
Since translation from warp-space, the ship had been on a steady deceleration, and armoured shutters had been peeled back from those ports like eyelids from waking eyes.
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There was a star nearby, a cone of silver smoke, bright as a flashlight, even through the metrethick porthole..
Translation in-system involves steady deceleration, at least for troop transports. Useful to know. Porthole also metre thick.




Page 96
Many of the cathedral-like ships were massive, massive like the carrier on which he stood, some more massive still: manufactory vessels, Munitorum supply ships, bulk conveyances. Great and ancient cruisers and frigates lay off to sunward like fortified broadswords. In places, transport ships and tankers were lashed together in long drifts, like the seed-purses of sea creatures. Small craft — luggers, shuttles, cutters, lighters and tugs — flitted between and around the great warp-going vessels...
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Gaunt began to count the ships and lost the tally at seventy-three. Sunflare and the hard lines of shadows made it hard to differentiate shapes. This was a fleet, however. A fleet massed for invasion on a vast scale.
Size and composition of the invasion fleet. At least 70+ ships. We're actually getting a glimpse of an invasion from start to finish, this book. Usually in past books its either been the Ghosts defending a place (Verghast, Herodor, etc.) or we start the novel with the invasion already underway (Phantine, Ancreon Sextus, etc.) Gives us an idea of the scale of forces and resources devoted to planetary invasion.





Page 100
“In two hours and fifty minutes, we will board drop ships for descent. Descent will be five hours’ duration. Planetfall will be into a hot zone. You are to expect serious opposition from the moment you disembark. Stay in your company groups after this to receive briefing specifics.”

He ran his gaze along the ranks.
5 hour descent from dropship seems alot really, unless they travel to the destination. Given that they descend into the atmosphere to drop.. yeah.



Page 103
“No, it’s not, but reserve activation is standard military practice. It’s one of the Warmaster’s regular tactics when manpower is needed, and Throne knows it’s needed here. Departmento Tacticae and the Commissariat both approve. I will keep trying, until the moment we make the drop. After that too, if necessary. But you’ve got to accept right now that the Guard is a huge and grinding mechanism, and it rolls blindly on over individual requests and objections. It loves expediency and mass effect and hates exceptions. What I’m saying is, we may not be able to affect this decision.”
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"High Command has committed to the activation of all reserve units, including punishment details, whereby they are to retain formation, be given designation, and be fielded as battlefield regulars. No individual currently on reserve status, be it for reasons of punishment, retraining or indoctrination, is to return to, or join, any other tactical element. For the present purposes, this detail will be afforded the name Activated Tactical 137, that is AT 137."

A bit o the dramatic. Rather than serve back in the Ghosts on this invasion, Criid (as RIP) is in the reserves, which as noted above is 'standard practice' tactics when manpowre is needed during invasions. It reflects there are different grades of trooper (much like in his Last command, the newbies on the second front) and reserves seem to be the dregs (punishment details, probably penal legions outright, and so on and so forth). Its also grimdark because Caffran and Tona (and Gaunt) tried to get Criid out of the reserves and back into the Ghosts before activation... no joy. which obviously upsets Tona. More, Kolea 'left it too late' as he says, and there is the risk that war will take someone before necessary words are said.



Page 110
Visible static charges gathered like ivy around the raised barrels of the weapon assemblies standing ready all along the seventy-kilometre long fortress.
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..eastward-rushing belt of wind that lashed across the ramparts of the city-fort..
Gereon fortress with defensive weapons.. 70 km long. AGain 40K builds fucking huge forts, cities, etc.



Page 110
It was the sound of the atmosphere caving in as billions of tonnes of metal fell into it like rocks into a pool.

Less than a minute later, the first strikes seared into K’ethdrac’att Shet Magir.
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The first strikes were like rods of molten glass, blue-hot, there and gone again in a nano-second. The cloud cover they came through was left wounded and suppurating light. Where they touched, the ground vapourised into craters thirty metres wide. Bulwarks, armoured towers, thick barriers of metal and stone all vanished, and with them, the gun batteries and crews that had been stationed there. Nothing was left but fused glass, lignite ash and deep cups of rock so hot they glowed pink. Each strike was accompanied by a vicious atmospheric decompression that sucked in debris like a bomb-blast running backwards.

The strikes came from the batteries of giant warships hanging above the tropopause. Their ornate hulls glowed gold and bronze in the pearly light of the climbing sun, and their great crimson prows parted the wispy tulle of the high, cold clouds, so that they resembled fleets of sea galleys from the myths of legend. So thin and peaceful was that realm of high altitude, their massive weapons systems blinked out the rods of visible heat with barely an audible gasp.
Orbital strikes are interesting, but calcing depends on a few things, sucha swhich you take literal. For one thing nano-second may or may not be literal, and vapourise may or may not be literal (people will probably argue over this endlessly.) In the former case, 'nano-second' may just be meant to take fraction of a second (one long enough for people to see the bombardment, which is the chief argument against 'nano') whilst the usual complaints against vaporizing shit occurs.

If the crater is literally vaporized, assuming rock could mean upwards of 200 terajoules per shot. On the other hand if its pulverization, we could be talking single or double digit tons (pulverizing out a 30 m diameter crater.) Nanosecond durations would argue in favor more of the 'tons' pulvreization, since thats mechanical damage simulating explosives, whilst 'fraction of a second' interpretations could go either way.

We could also go by the crater being melted to an unspecified depth.. if we go between 5-20 cm depth (2-8 inches) we might get anywhere from 900 GJ melting to several TJ easily. melting out a 30 m diamter crater would be around 30-40 terajoules.

The interesting thing about 'nano-second' bombardment is that, if we figure that is a single pulse (and they could normally fire as a sustained beam...) the output could be considerably greater for a full second. even at tens of gigajoules (a few tons) would result in e19watts, whilst anything into terajoules could be e21 watts or more. In a full second of duration each shot would be gigatons or teratons, potentially. Of course, nothing says they do fire at a full second, so that is more conjectural. It could be a single 'shot' encompasses thousands of pulses, hundreds, or tens, or any number. And of course if its 'fraction of a second' it could be of any duration (skewed more towards say a quarter second or longer, by visuals, althoguh we know 40K humans can go up to a tenth of a second by Cain novels and Eye of Terror) Which could be terawatts-petawatts (on the literal vape, or melting) or just tens/hundreds of tons (for the pulverization.)

There's also the issue of whether they're striking the ground (just rock) or parts of the fort which might be metal as well. That could affect the calcs too of course.

The other peculiar thing about this is.. the starships are ludicrously close range.. we're talking tens of km likely distance above for bombardment. They must be using AG to resist earth's pull to do this, which would also explain the 'billions of tonnes.' (starships, possibly drop ships) What the effects of all this are, we will learn later (and they impress and horrify the way this does.) What the energy input to stay aloft like that is, I can't begin to imagine.





Page 111
Other vessels, bulk carriers, had emptied themselves into the sky, like swollen insectoid queens birthing millions of eggs. Their offspring fell in blizzards from the scorched and punctured clouds, and were picked up and carried by the hurricane winds slicing in from the sea. Countless assault ships spurted like shoals of dull fish. Clouds of drop-pods billowed like grain scattered from a sower’s hand.
Scope of implied assault. Millions of... drop ships, drop pods, whatever. Lots of people and junk, in other words.



Page 112
Furious scribbles of light and pops of colour lit up the seventy kilometres of wall in an effort to repel them. Thousands of tracer patterns strung the air like necklaces. Sooty rockets whooped up in angry arcs, trailing hot dirt. Rotating cannons drummed and pumped like pistons and turned the sky into a leopard skin of black flak smoke.
Scope and nature of aerial defenses for Gereon. Also 70 km 'wall' of fort city.




Page 115
“Company, stand up!” Kexie bellowed over the row.
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The first Criid saw, anyway. Fourbox told him later that a Kolstec called Fibrodder had got scragged while they were still in the lander.
Dalin deploys from company-sized lander.




Page 121
Landslide was cut up messily by lasfire the moment he left cover. His broken body lay on the ground, the jacket on fire. Likely, a diligent little Binar who had been, with Criid and Hamir, one of the few ‘I’ candidates in RIP, had covered half the distance when he was hit in the knee and went sprawling. He rolled over, clutched his ruined knee, and was immediately shot in the same knee a second time. This shot had to pass through his clutching left hand to do so and blew off three fingers.

Likely screamed in pain. Bardene stopped and turned to help him, and was killed outright by a bolt round to the base of the spine that left him spread-eagled on his face.
Lasfire 'cuts up/breaks' a body, although in what way we don't know. we dont know how many shots either, but it clearly set his jacket afire (125j per sq cm flash burns.) If we figure upper torso (45x45 cm) and 125 j per sq cm on one side of the body and an arbitrary 100 shots thats about 2.5 kj per shot at least, for thermal damage alone. If we figure it went to 400 j per sq cm, and over a 50x50 cm area (most of upper body, more or less) that would be 1 MJ, which over 100 shots is 10 kj per shot, and would account for thermal and mechanical effects.

Roughly speaking, I think we could call it high kj/low MJ probably or therabouts.

We also get a knee 'ruined' but not blasted apart by two lasbolts although it blew off three fingers. IF we figure at least single digit kj. With fingers and kee, we might figure 12-17 cm depth of penetration and maybe 5-6 cm 'diameter' for the area of effect of the las-wound. For thermal effect alone we're talking between 60-100 sq cm, which at the same 125 j per sq cm is 7.5-12.5 kj for thermal effects alone. Blasting through the bones (single pulse) woudl be at least a few kj (assuming 1 cm or so diameter per bone.. call it 3-5 kj maybe for 3-4 cm diameter roughly) 5-10 such pulses would probably drill a similarly-sized hole through the knee as I estimated reasonably well. Again implied single to double digit kj at least.

also bolt round hat does not explode the person.

Page 125
There was nothing heroic or exciting about the situation he found himself him, nothing even remotely sensible or purposeful. It was a mad, ragged scramble, full of fear and shocking glimpses of mutilation, and with no clear purpose. He had dreamed of a Guardsman’s life, wanted a Guardsman’s life, and if this was it, it was wretched and idiotic. He felt cheated, as if Caff and his ma and Varl and all the others had been lying to him all these years. No one would want this. No one would choose this.

Except, maybe, if he had been going through this as a Ghost, instead of as a member of the arsewipe detail AT 137, maybe all those qualities would have been there… the excitement, the heroism, the purpose.
This is, I suspect, Abnett's intention. Often int he Ghosts novels we get things that are 'glorious' or 'heroic'... its fair to say that that view of the Guard is a bit skewed, because not everyone is a veteran, professional or specialist regiment. The common grunt, the infantry conscripts and the new recruits also make up the Guard, and that is what Dalin represents here. The ones who are in the shit and the mud and the horror, watching their comrades getting destroyed messily by gunfire or artllery, hearing the noise and the flashes and all the nasty shit. It isn't grand, it isn't glorious. It can be crazy, horrible, horrifying, and Criid spends a good chunk of this novel experiencing the horror and fear. As I said, its Dalin's story mainly, and that is him going through a planetary invasion at grunt's eye view. Compared to this the Ghosts (which we get a contrast of) is much different. Its an interesting contrast, especially since Dalin seems to make this similar realization.

Small wonder Tona and Caff and Kolea worry about him.



Page 134-135
Kexie ordered Ganiel’s team forward to investigate. They had no man-to-man vox. Either there hadn’t been spare micro-bead kit available for issue at AT 137’s sudden advancement to active status, or a rat-tail dreg outfit like AT 137 didn’t deserve such costly luxuries. They had a unit vox-officer with a field set, a Kolstec called Mover, but Criid hadn’t seen him since boarding. He was probably dead along with Major Brundel.
For whatever reason (although I suspect the latter, like with Penal Legions) Dalin's people don't have micro-beads.




Page 135-136
The remains of the five men lay in the dark, smoking scorch mark. They’d been incinerated, although some parts of them were still identifiable: skulls, ribcages, long bones, heat-twisted rifles. The bones were black-wet with sticky meat and cooked blood.
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He never saw the tank, but he heard and smelt it — the deep, grinding rumble of its engines, the clatter of its treads, the stink of its oil. According to Kexie, it had been hull-down in the ruins of the bunkers, guarding the service lane with its hull-mounted flamer.
Effect of hull-mounted tank flamer. Partial cremation at least.. hundreds if not thousands of megajoules per body, over an unknown period of time.
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And Part 2. That was easy.


Page 137-138
Rolled up like an unborn child, Dalin Criid felt more mortal than he’d ever felt in his life. All the self-deceiving vitality of youth drained from him and left just a silt of pain behind. His needs reduced to an undignified, simple level, and became the sorts of things that grown men scorned as weaknesses in the mess hall or the bar room, and cried out for shame in extremis. In a hole in the ground, in the path of a tank, for instance.

In that moment, he knew with astonishing clarity that this happened, sooner or later, to every man or woman who became an Imperial Guardsman. It was the moment when a person faced up to the fact that everything he’d bragged about wanting — action, glory, battlescars and reputation — was, without exception, chimerical and of no value or reward, and everything he’d disparaged as weak and soft, and cowardly was all that genuinely mattered.

He wanted the noise to stop. He wanted to be elsewhere too, but the noise was the key thing. It was relentless and he needed it to stop. He wanted the pain in his face and shoulder to go away. He wanted to see his ma. He wanted to be eleven years old again, playing paper boats with his baby sister in the deck gutters of a troop ship.

In that hole in the ground, so like a grave, these things acquired a sudden and resonating value that went far beyond comfort or escape. There was something else he yearned for too, something he couldn’t quite resolve. A face, maybe.
Not very 'heroic' is it? I think its a very evocative scene none the less.. it creates that sort of horror and drama that we're supposed to feel for a 'merely human' guardsmen, just out of training and with no experience in battle, being thrust into the horror that is 41st Millenium battles. The noise and the blood and the seneslessness., And the reason it works? Its personal. Dalin is someone whom you can connect or even relate to. As a character you care about him, and thus to see him, the son of a Ghost who had craved war and the glory and honour and shit.. reduced to his is horrible and tragic and saddening. It doesn't pretend or pull punches in the least.

What's more, Abnett, through Dalin, manages to convey that larger 'truth' of the Guardsman that is supposed to be endemic to the concept. And he does it in a very plausible, non-grimdark manner. This is why I think Abnett is a great writer.



Page 140
The city district on the far side of the thoroughfare, a region of dark towers and strange, crested structures the colour of tungsten, was being pummelled into extinction by pinpoint orbital fire. The ribbons of light, eyewateringly bright, jabbed down through the stained cloud cover and, with chest-quaking concussion, reduced habitation blocks to swirling storms of ash.
Orbital fire, demolishing an implied city block. Probably beams, at least gigajoules/tons of TNT probably. Also pinpoint bombardment, which can probably be explained by being in the troposphere.


Page 148
Cantible was not one of the eighteen primary objectives. It wasn’t even one of the six hundred and thirty secondary objectives, or one of the five thousand and seventeen second phase objectives. On High Command’s complex logistical diagrams, it appeared amongst a list labelled Tertiary/recon. Light scout, reconnaissance and intruder regiments were being dropped forward of the main assaults to secure bridgeheads and clear lines of advancement. Cantible, the municipal and administrative hub for an agri-belt province called Lowensa, defended one of the main west-east running corridors between K’ethdrac and the Lectica heartlands.
The Ghosts current deployment whilst Dalin is involved in the blood and mud of the main assault. Behind the lines commando shit basically. Note the mention of light scout, recon AND intruder regiments for this purpose advancing ahead of the main force.

Also a shit ton of objectives of all kinds.



PAge 148
The entire strength of the Tanith First was advancing in a wide spread across the rolling grassland from their drop-site higher in the moors. Supporting light armour was chugging to meet them along a pasture route to the south.
Ghosts have 'light armour' in support. We learn they're the Dev Hetra from His Last command, probably the similar units. Hydra and multilaser platforms (including the 8 barreled Super Hydras lol), thunderers, salamanders, etc.



Page 152
Tona and he hadn’t been as close since Gereon. Things had got a little better of late, but it still wasn’t the same. She was withdrawn from him, altered. He had wondered at first if it was some kind of Chaos taint, but it wasn’t that. She had just changed. She’d seen stuff that he hadn’t. He wasn’t someone she could talk to anymore, not about the things that mattered to her anyway.

Well, that would change, starting from right now. He was going to taste the infamous Gereon for himself. He was going to know it like she knew it, and that would help him lift its shadow off the two of them. They’d exorcise Gereon together, and get back to where they had been.
Things between Caffran ad Tona are better as we've seen, and Tona is improved, but there is still some distance. Caffran is intent on conquering Gereon and regaining what he has lost, to return life to how it was before Gereon because of that distance.



Page 154
..Gaunt’s own adjutant Beltayn was delicately adjusting the set’s dial. Retrofitted with a bulky additional power cell and an S-shaped low frequency transmitter, his vox was decidedly non-standard.
Non standard Ghosts field vox unit.



Page 161
The head popped in a puff of red. Banda blinked to make sure she’d seen it right.

Close by, Nessa Bourah looked up from her long-las.
Long-las headsplosion.




PAge 163
The others turned, scattering, reaching for las-locks. Jajjo fired some more and blew another off his feet.
..
Jajjo called, firing his lasrifle one-handed from the hip as he gestured wildly with his other hand.
Lasrifle one handed, and with enough knockback to put people on their ass (tens of kj of energy per bolt, perhaps? Or perhpas per burst.)




Page 164
Grey scales flew up from the being’s broken armour as Jajjo’s laser bolts sliced through him and knocked him onto his back.
More lasfire knockdown.



Page 166
Another las-lock blast blew out the skull of the woman he was pulling at. Her body had been masking his.
Laslock headsplodes. Not as powerful as hotshots (At least per FFG) but more powerful than most lasguns (except maybe middle setting, I forget.)



PAge 166-167
It occurred to Mkoll that there were no people because, like any resource, they had been used up. He’d seen the process half-done before he left the first time. The occupation had progressivelyexploited and consumed Gereon’s raw materials: manufacturing, minerals, crops, water, flesh. Vast swathes of the country had been turned over to xeno-culture producing gene-altered or warp-tainted crops that depleted the land by strip-mining the soil of its nutrients. The crops fed the occupying forces, but were harvested in such gross abundance that they could be transported off-world to supply the ravenous armies of the Archon. For a few years, until the process killed its fertility, Gereon would be one of the Archenemy’s breadbasket worlds in this region. Fuel and metal reserves went the same way. With his own amazed eyes, Mkoll had witnessed two jehgenesh, warp beasts deliberately unleashed into Gereon’s water supply by the occupiers. These… things drank lakes, seas and reservoirs, and excreted the water via the warp to distant, arid worlds in the Archenemy’s domain.
..

Flesh was just another commodity. Those of Gereon’s human population who had not become proselytes and converted to the new faith had been made slaves, robbed of all rights and dignities.

More literally, others had been fed to the meat foundries, where the flesh of their bodies had been cut apart to supply the enemy with a source of spare parts and transplants. The dead, the useless and the unviable were fed into the ahenum furnaces which powered much of Gereon’s abominable new industries and lit the sky red at dusk. Ultimately, the furnaces awaited everyone.

In the long months and days of pain since he had last been there, Mkoll realised, the human supply, like all finite resources, had begun to dwindle. Gereon was close to exhaustion.
You know I waxed about how Traitor General gave us a different, and more positive spin on Chaos... this is the other side. Everything, and literally everything, is to be used, exploited, drawn from the planet... leaving it a dessicated husk. No care, no consideration for others, no holding back. Mind you, its hard to say that the Imperium is uniformly better, as they have their share of 'strip the planet of all resources and abandon it' cases too, but I'd say compared to Chaos they're both inefficient and more horrible about it, as literally everything in the world is a resource. Its the worst aspects of human exploitation taken to its extremes - no morality, no restraint, no consideration other than usefulness nad efficiency. Its not unlike the Tyranids in that respect but far more parasitic if anything because of the reasons behind it.

We knew about the Xenos crops of course, and the Jehgenesh that sucked up resources, but the 'human' fuel usages are perhaps more horrific, going beyond just slave labor. Using them as sources of body parts.. even fuel. And quite probably food (if the Imperium does the Corpse Starch thing you can bet Chaos wouldn't hesitate to either. They did in Siege of Castellax after all.) The disturbing thing about it is the absolute nature of what it implies.. humanity (or any living being) will serve Chaos one way.. or another. If you don't join willingly you will be made to serve.. other ways.

Now all the horrible-ness of this scene aside, part of me is impressed how they can convert living organic matter into efficient fuel in some manner.. very 'green' lol.

Also as an idea of their resource usage, if they strip the planet of oceans and water within a few years, 1e21 kg roughly for Earth's oceans.. which works out to some 3e20 kg annually, or 1e18 kg every day. And the probable other resources - mineral, fossil fuel, etc. - probably were similarily stripped in that timeframe. The scope of resource stripping and usage is impressive, sa is the means of transport.. but the fact it doesnt lead to an overwhleming victory against the Imperium would also tend to suggest that those capabilities are within an order of magnitude of the Imperium's. (We know that this is the case with their crop growth from Traitor General, so it stands to reason in other cases.)



Page 179
Maggs had taken two las-burns across the left arm, and Bonin had suffered a hit to the back that had burned a deep gash in his flesh but which had glanced off the surgical plate of his old spinal wound.
Assuming 1-2 cm across and 10-15 cm for Magg's arm, the las burn is betwene 10-30 sq cm. At 125 j per sq cm thats 1-4 kj roughly for thermal effect.

In Bonin's case, we can figure at least 4th degree (flayed flesh to bone) 400 j per sq cm If we figure at least 2-3 cm in diameter for the burn from a direct (non penetrating) hit figure 4-9 sq cm, which at 400 j per sq cm is 1600-3600 joules. If Bonin's injury was a glancing one along the spine, it might be 1-2 cm and upwards of 10-20 cm, which might be 10 sqm com to 40 sq cm which is 4 to 16 kilojoules. It may not be the sum totla of the energy in the bolt in either case since it 'glances' off.. possibly several times greater for the full bolt regardless of calc.



Page 180-181
Three enemy troops rushed forward across the open heart of the temple, their boots scuffing over the desecrated mosaic of the aquila on the floor. They had, for a second, clean kill-shots on the fallen Maggs.

However Mach Bonin had reached the carved stone cover of the stairway. Turning, face set like an angel bringing solemn notice of death, he emptied half of his last power clip in a flurry of shots that blazed across the echoing chamber.

The shots struck — and chopped into — the three troopers like hacking axe blows. One of the enemy troopers was hit in the knee by a shot that severed his leg. Before his toppling body could fall, he had been sliced through the torso twice, and the shoulder, and the neck. The second pitched over as two shots entered his back above the waistline and incinerated his gut and lungs. He fell, foul steam exhaling from his screaming mouth. The third was hit in the ankle and calf of his left leg the hip and the side of the head, and went over as if run into from the side by a truck.

The rest of the considerable enemy force turned their guns on Bonin, but immediately had to duck and find cover as Maggs rose behind the felled altar-piece and opened fire.

Briefly guarded by Maggs’ frantic support, Bonin turned and ran up the narrow stairs onto the gallery.
First off, Bonin empties 'half his last clip' into the enemy. Its at least a dozen or so shots (11-12) so he's tog at least 24 shots.. if its more (60 shots as per FFG) we might figure he emptied 30 or so. And given the context above, he emptied it no more than a second or so at most. Thats around 6-12 rounds per second at LEAST, and quite possibly several tens of shots per second or more if we go with powerpack capacities.

And then.. damage calcs. one bolt severs a leg at the knee or thereabouts. a few kj for a single las-pulse (5 mm spot size, 10 microsecond delay) can sever several cm worth of bone (important o sever) and that similar magnitude could slice the leg off (more or less) Figure at least high single/low double digit kj for the leg at least maybe.

'incinerating' guts and lungs is interesting. If incinerate is literal (lungs typically are estimated to weigh severla pounds) would be several MJ for cremation. If it just means 'badly burn' If we fiugre 15-20x15-20 cm for the lungs (225-400 sq cm) per side and 25-50 j per sq cm at least (2nd to 3rd degree burns) fiure 5.6 kj at least (per side) to 20 kj per side. Which means somehwere between 5-40 kj estimated for 'burnt'. Given the 'foul steam' from mouth, we might figure severe burning at least on one side.



Page 182
He drew his laspistol. It wouldn’t do the job his rifle could, but it might have to do.
Laspistol is better than lasrifle. In what way, we don't know. in context it may imply firepower, since this is a close quarters battle and he doesn't have a powerpack for his lasrifle, and if laspistol and rifle were similar in power you'd think the lack of a rifle powerpack wouldn't be an issue.



Page 182
With one clip left each, Bonin and Maggs met them. Bonin swung up over the balcony lip and decimated the figures charging Maggs’ position. Simultaneously, Maggs lit up and fired at the hostiles heading for the stairwells. In ten seconds of sustained firing, they laid out thirty of the enemy.

Then they were out. They fell back into cover, and dropped their empty rifles in favour of pistols and straight silver.
10 seconds of sustained lasfire drains powerpack. Assuming between 60-150 shots (various sources, dice packs for 6th edition lists 100-150, munitorum manual is 150, FFG is 60, etc.) thats 6-15 shots per second, which is fairly high ROF for lasweapons (or carbines.) If we go higher (some sources, including Blood Pact, point to hundreds of shots in a powerpack) we can easily get tens of shots per second.

If we figure a las powerpack is between 240-300 kj and 600-1000 kj, we also get a firepower between 24-30 kw and 60-100 kw, depending on estimate.

Also both have laspistols as sidearms.



Page 184
The temple, already in great disrepair when they first arrived, had been shot to pieces. The stone walls and pillars were chipped, flecked and scorched in a million places, and the wooden seating banks had been pulverised into lacy, punctured shells. The bodies of the occupation troopers they had killed in the frantic gun battle littered the floor, the tumbled-down seating and the main aisle all the way back to the front doors. Discharge smoke hung like mist in the profaned air.
Effect of sustained lasfire from dozens of Chaos Troopers and two Ghosts. Even assuming 100 men and if 'million' is l iterally, eahc guy had to be unleashing 10K shots. The devastation and penetration alone is interesting by the implication, but the sheer quantity of gunfire potentially available to a Guardsmen (thousands of shots per ammo loadout) is phenomenal, especially in contrast to modern ammo loadouts. Even allowing a 600-1200 rpm sustained rat of fire for lasweapons, all that ammo would last many minutes of continous use.

note 'discharge smoke' we've had reference to las-smoke, which seems to suggest lasweapons emit smoke, steam or whatever. Maybe their power packs have some sort of chemical reaction, like a fuel cell.



Page 186
Gaunt was not in the best of moods. He felt dispirited and dissatisfied. The last few years of his life had been inextricably linked to Gereon, and its redemption mattered to him a great deal. In the preceding weeks, and that very morning before and during the drop, he had been energised by a driving force of satisfaction: at last, at long last, he was going to contribute to the liberation of a world he cared about with particular intensity.
..
But where were the people they had come to save? Where was the relief and the release? Where was the point of liberation if a place, emptied of its sordid, inhuman occupiers, was just empty?
Gaunt seems to have become as obsessed about Gereon the same way he has been about the Ghosts and Tanith, which makes him worry that he's come too late to save the place. Its the same sort of duty/honour that drives him with the Ghosts - failing Gereon would be a personal failure for him (much like Honour Guard.) The travails of the Gereon team in that regard may even magnify it, and he fears that failure more than anything especially for the personal reasons.



PAge 189
On the exposed wall, they could see six digits, cut there with a tightly narrowed flamer.
tight-burn flamer (narrow cutting torch like beam, like an Ork Skorcha I gather) can write on walls. Guess that answers me whether some flamers can go 'narrow cutting' like Ork flamers can :P



Page 205
His face, however, was a rancid, distorted mass, so bloated that its original structure was gone. It was as if the hood had been tied in place simply to hold the face together. There was no nose, just a raw socket, and the eyes under the deformed brow were the staring, circular eyes of a large bird. The wet mouth hung open to reveal teeth like quills.
..
One had a drooling snout, full of yellow peg teeth, that wouldn’t close. The second, draped in a long Guardsman’s greatcoat, looked perfectly human except that his left eye socket was shared by two eyes.
Dalin Criid meets the enemy, face to face. Mutation via warp can be horrible.



Page 205
Criid exclaimed in disgust and shot the enemy soldier three times with his lasrifle. The shots lifted the creature off the floor and bounced it off the corridor wall.
3 round burst las-knockdown, tens of kj at least. as per prior calcs (40 kg*m/s, 1500 m/s escape velocity - 30 kj. 27 grams of flesh vaporized for 61 kj. 10-20 kj per shot estimated.



Page 208
...a squealing pig-thing came out.

It was huge, as tall as Criid, but four or five times the body-mass. It wore old, unlaced Guard boots and ragged battledress trousers belted under the girth of its distended belly. It was bare from the waist up, a sagging barrel of hairless pink flesh smeared with dirt and sweat. Its shoulders and arms were massive, massive like old Corbec’s used to be. It was carrying a heavy autocannon, greasy and black, like a normal-sized man would carry a combat shotgun. Its head was tiny, a puckered, bald, pink ball with dot eyes and brown tusks. It made a shrill, bleating squeal as it opened fire.

Fed by a long, swinging belt of ammunition...
Chaos version of Bragg. Mutated, carrying a belt-fed autocannon.



Page 214
Hundreds of thousands of Imperial Guardsmen were sweeping forwards in fast flowing rivers of bodies along the roads and out across the bridges to assault the wall.
Scope of the fort-city assault.




Page 238
..Its behaviour was extraordinary. Gaunt knew the use and value of armoured weapons, for power and strength, for psychological force. Tanks were a vital tool of warfare as unsubtle monsters that could roll in and deliver stupendous firepower.

This beast wasn’t behaving like a tank. It wasn’t just advancing inexorably towards them, firing its weapons. It was hunting them
Chaos possessed tank, acting like a beast. muahahaha. alos gaunt on the use of armoured vehicles.



Page 239
Armour plating or no armour plating, the power blade of Heironymo Sondar could stab in through a vent grille or an exhaust slot and cripple the engine.
Gaunt's power sword laughs at tank armor.




Page 240
He saw a little flurry of sparks light up on the slope directly below the ruined hamlet, coming from behind one of the tumbled pasture walls. From a distance, it looked like tinderbox sparks. In a second, las bolts sang overhead. Someone on the slope was firing a lasrifle at the beast on full auto.

The range was poor, and even point blank, a lasrifle couldn’t penetrate tank armour. Gaunt knew what it was. It was somebody’s attempt at distraction.
Implied limits on lasfire range. the odd thing is...it takes a second (or longer0 for the bolt to travel and even noticably reach overhead.

Let me repreat. SUBLIGHT. Laser. Bolts. If you didn't bleieve me that Abnett reated lasguns as being energy bullets (or lazer bullets), here's your proof. of course we might infer that Gaunt can't be accurately timing things, but still... he wouldn't even notice a lasbolt's passage. the time between firing and impact would be too brief. Maybe its an invisible, sustained beam and the visible parts are tracers :P



Page 253
“I just got this feeling, Caff. Like I’m tempting fate by hoping on this. His fate and mine. All the while I’m hoping I can give him this, I’m daring fate to stop it happening. So here’s an end to it. I don’t have to think about it any more. If you don’t mind?”
Kolea gives Caffran a regimental insignia he'd gotten for Dalin's induction. Ever since dalin was in the RIP Kolea has this fear he (or Dalin) will die before seeing each other again, so he entrusts it to Caffran to give, saying he feels it 'improves their chances'. this will prove to be greatly ironic.




Page 259-260
Down below, half a kilometre from the hamlet at the base of the hill, the beast was back.
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She looked down the hill slope, past two runs of wall and several dead trees, skeletal-white in the changing light. The tank was down in the vale bottom, close to the place where it had played cat and mouse with Gaunt and the others earlier in the day.
This would, in conjunction with the 'distraction' trick earlier, imply the lasgun range was around half a km or so (which is 'poor' range for lasfire). moreover, it implies the lasbolts (taking a second or two to hit) woudl be.. subsonic. subsonic lasbolts. :P




Page 261-262
“Two fifty metres,” she said, slipping back into cover and giving Larkin back his scope.
“Two sixty-two, with crosswind making the effective range three plus,” Larkin replied.
“Too far for a rocket either way,” Gonry said. “I wouldn’t waste anything over a hundred.”
He was right, but cautious. Criid bridled. “Caff would smack it at three,” she said. She was boasting, but not much. Caffran was the best rocket lobber in the regiment.
..
“Boss? We need to buy a little range to kill that gakker. Permission to sting it?”
The implied range by Larkin seems to be that the tank is closer to 250-300 m away. Which makes all i said above even worse. that siad, its possible the ranges in this quote and the last aren't quite where the lasguns were (although they also wouldn't be much further off, probably.) Tona asks to shoot it again (sting it) but Gaunt denies her.

Rockets have a potential range up to 300 m, but they take skill to do that. 100m seems to be normal range.



Page 264
Gonry reached down for his satchel of rockets and his head vanished. Criid was facing him as it happened, and it seemed like one of Vad’s conjuring tricks. A puff of red, and bang, no head. Gonry’s headless body slowly fell away and hit the ground.

Something hard hit her in the mouth and also in the right cheek.
..
Pieces of Gonry’s exploded skull had struck her. She shook her head, grateful that Larkin was holding her upright, and looked down at Gonry. A high-calibre shell had atomised his head and painted blood on everything in a five metre radius.
Autocannon shell.



Page 265
Caff had taught her all the tricks. Aim low, because the rocket will lift on its initial burst of propellant. Keep steady, because a tube doesn’t aim like a rifle. Aim for seams, like the turret/body seam. Maximize that piercing shell head, and all the spalling you can get.
Tricks of the Tread Fether.




Page 272-274
They were assaulting the giant bulwark in the company of hundreds of thousands of Guardsmen.
..
The bulwark wall rose up hundreds of metres above them. Its flamer towers were the main source of the blazing orange light, but the wall was dotted with gunloops and emplacements that were crackling with gunfire.
..
Blue and white las bolts showered like sparks. Tracer fire wound and clung like climbing ivy.
..
The exhaust trails of rockets left arcs from ground to wall, or wall to ground, each lingering trace describing some aspiration of ascent, like the diagram of a proposed attack drawn in smoke.
Criid is caught up in the 'traditional' kind of Guard warfare. EG the horrible, attritional kind. hundreds of thousands of troops being marched into the enemy's guns in an attempt ot take the fort. No cover either is mentioned.


tech-wise - hundreds of metres range for lasfire, rockets, gunfire, flamers (with the help of gravity) etc.



Page 274-275
Shots seared down into their ranks almost vertically from high above.
..
A Binar close beside Dalin had the top two-thirds of his head demolished, right down to the lower lip and jaw, and then stayed beside him, lolling back and forth, propped up by the crush around them.
...
Corporal Traben was hit in the eye and died with smoke coming out of his half-open mouth.
headsplosion by unknown weapon. It could be gunfire or it could be lasfire. The third passage (smoke coming from mouth) would imply lasfire, but we cna't be sure. If it is lasfire, we coudl be talking single/double digit kj.




Page 275-277
The Guardsmen were struggling uphill. They were stumbling and struggling up a ramp that was built out of corpses.
..
It was so ridiculous, that Dalin wanted to scream and laugh. This was not the proud warfare his parents had raised him to admire and expect. This was nonsensical behaviour, quite without merit or point. Dalin felt a huge hatred for Sobile, in as much as Sobile embodied the insane Guard mindset that had brought them all to this astonishing futility. Climb a mountain of bodies under heavy fire to a dead end.

Why would we do that, sir?

Because the Emperor tells you to.
..
The pain and the anger of his ordeal had made him wish harm on the God-Emperor, nothing more!
A moment’s weakness, not a taint. Not a taint. Please, Golden Throne, not a taint!
He threw himself forwards, galvanised by some overriding impulse to purge himself and prove his loyalty.

Poor Dalin. Another scene highlighting again that war isn't as great as how Dalin thought it would be. Indeed, he's seeing the Guard at its worst, its most humane, and cruel. And you know what? Abnett does this 'grimdark' shit better than all the codexes and all the IA shit put together. He puts a personal, visceral spin on it that gives it greater emotional impact, and makes you feel the horror. All the wonderful, upbeat stuff we started this book out with have been forgotten, drowned in the horrid cauldron of a senseless war. As we've noted in the past, this isn't ALWAYS how the Guard prosecutes its wars, but one can never forget it can and DOES happen, even in a 'decent' secnario like the Sabbat Worlds crusade. Witnessing this horrible shit through the eyes of Dalin, culminating with Dalin's emotional overload at the situation (his doubt and fear) driving him into fanaticism because of a moment of weakness, drives that theme home with greater force than without it. Criid's first taste of combat is not glorious, fun, or wonderful, its horrible, terrifying, and senseless, and he spends the book trying to reconcile the two differneces. Of all the Ghosts books so far, especially in this sequence, it is one of the darkest, darker than the stuff in Guns of TAnith or Straight Silver by far. You start on a high and end on a low. And we're not done yet.

Also, I think the contrast between the Ghosts and Dalin in the reserves highlights that there is a difference between valued professional, veteran regiments and fresh faced conscripts and regimental rejects in the way they get used.


Page 277
The man beside him smiled, and seemed to agree, but the man beside him had no arms nor any back to his head.
Again we dont know what did it, but its also another of that 'horrifying imagery' in this whole conflict.



Page 281
He fired two shots from the hip, and the man turned around as he fell, spun by torque.
..
A passing bolter round blew out the warrior’s midriff...
Lasbolts imparting momentum again, and the effect of bolt rounds (again)


Page 286-287
A Leman Russ tank appeared out of the smoke
..
It was half overturned, turret towards them and tracks away from them. The uppermost track section had been broken, and the loose tread segments trailed down like a lizard’s loose scales. The hull armour on the raised flank was deeply dented, by some colossal force.
..
On its side, the tank was sliding across the flagstones towards them.
..
There was something in the smoke, something that had met the tank and struck it such a blow that it had knocked it over and sent it sliding across the square. The something was tall, the height of a two-storey hab, and it was barely moving.
..
Dalin almost swallowed his tongue in terror as he gazed up at the two giant horns that topped the wedge-shaped skull. A vast cloven hoof clopped the flagstones as it took a step. There was a stench of burned sugar and volcanic gas, thunderstorms and shit.
2 storey tall daemon manifests, and sends Russ flying across the courtyard.



Page 288
Its speed was as unnatural as all of its other ghastly aspects. It was not fast like a man or animal might be fast. When it moved, reality folded around it and allowed it to pass from place to place in an eye-blink. There was a sound like screaming, gale-force winds. Dozens of fleeing Guardsmen were suddenly hurled upwards into the air, as if thrown aside by a violent wake. The crew had only just abandoned the tank in front of Dalin when it flipped up sharply into the sky like a toy, turned over, and came crashing down thirty metres away with an impact that jarred Dalin off his feet.
Daemon again. Seems to teleport about, and can throw Tanks around. Terrifies and routs the Guardsmen and they bring in sanctioned psykers to fight it.



Page 292
Dalin took a ration pack out and picked at it. Merrt helped Fourbox to tear open his pack, and then gave the others the same advice.

Sucking reconstituted broth through a straw, Merrt rejoined Dalin.
Even the sabbat worlds reserves warrant better than corpse starch.




Page 307
The storm cured the sky a kind of dark, reptilian green, almost the colour of the world when seen through night scopes.
Night scopes.



Page 309
He knew it was the invasion that had triggered the storm. You didn’t dump such a catastrophic amount of mass and energy into an atmosphere without the weather patterns flying apart. He remembered Balhaut, Fortis Binary and, most recently, Ancreon Sextus. It wasn’t just the heat exchange of weapons use, it was ship drives in low orbit, gravity generators, overpressure and atmospheric insertions. This rainstorm in Lowensa Province was due, in part, to the null fields of capital ships squeezing the air over the ocean at Gereon’s tropics, to the global warming of orbital barrage, to the rapid air displacement of a hundred thousand drop ships.
Side effects of invasion. This is interesting considering how damn energy intensive and disruptive an actual large-scale invasion from space can be. Such could be catastrophic on an agri-world, where climate and atmosphere and shit are important to the yields of the crops. Billions of tonnes of starship (reemmber) implying considerable effect on the weather and enviroment - ships must be radiating energy, the drop ships making atmospheric reentry/escape, millions of drop pods (even at 10 tons per drop pod eac pod would have at least tens of MJ per kg which would work out to hundreds of GJ, and drop ships, tens if not hundreds of tonnes a piece at a minimum would be millions of tons more easily and similar magnitude of energy input tens if not hundreds of thousands of terajoules alone.)

The atmospheric heating.. assuming an EArthlike atmospheric mass (5e18 kg) and composition (1 kj per kg*K for dry air) and a 5 degree temperatur eincrease (5 kj per kg) we're talking some 2.5e22 J of energy injected. We know its over a several day period as a probable upper limit (no more than twenty, but by the time this is mentioned they've only been there a couple days) and probably fewer than a 100 or so starships ((certainly not thousands of them), which is an average firepower of.. ~200-250 kilotons per second, assuming nonstop bombardment over 3 days and 100 warships all equal. Again its not the stupendous firepower of other calcs for starships, but its hardly trivial either, and these aren't 'planet killing' bombardments either. The idea of kiloton/megaton level bombardments from orbital strikes is.. impressive.

Overall the amount of materials and energy involved in a single battle like this, abliet a significant one by Crusade terms, is both amazing and frightening, because its a huge expenditure of energy in a relatively short period of time (all things considered), and horrific becuase of the long term consequences it must inflict on that same planet to fuck it up (weather patterns, climate, crops, etc.) It seems that no matter what option is taken warfare can fuck a planet up to some degree or another. Also 100K drop ships, which implies millions, tens of millions of guardsmen at least.



Page 313-314
His own recent dream still hadn’t left his memory. He was especially locked on the image of Tona Criid, thumping at him. She’d had a dream too, he remembered, on the transport just before they’d come in. She’d dreamed that he had died. Gaunt believed in the power of dreams. They’d spoken the truth to him more than once. He’d fobbed Tona off, but now it troubled him. On Gereon, last time out, she’d dreamed so accurately of Lucien Wilder, Throne bless his memory. She’d dreamed of Lucien Wilder long before she’d known any man of that name actually existed.
Gaunt has a dream about Tona thumping his chest saying he was dead, of Hark holding a bolt pistol saying gaunt was kililng 'his ghosts' and that he was dead, etc. Dreams are another big part of this sequence... foretelling much of the future events. Tona forsaw Wilder and the Belladon in Traitor Generla, for example. Tona earlier had a dream (before Gereon) believing Gaunt would die. they are all, i think, foreshadowing events (in some fashion) coming up in the last book, possibly beyond.



Page 318
"These last few months, the Archenemy’s become more skilful at infiltration. Face changers. Mind swaps. Remote psychic control. We’ve had losses. Just last week they cremated an entire cell in Edrian, deep in the Untill. Eighty dead, most of them Nihtgane families.”
Chaos infiltration approaches to resistance cells. All of them sneaky and impressive. How they 'cremated' eighty people i dont know, aerial bombardment perhaps.



Page 320
" I still take a pause to think that Rawne’s a friend of mine now. My best friend, to be honest. Time was, we’d have happily killed one another. I still hate him and he still hates me, but the necessity of Gereon bound us tight. "
Again Gaunt and Rawne have come a long way since the beginning of the books. Rawne's changes started prior ot Gereon of course, but Gereon was the ultimate catalsty, i think.



Page 335
He stripped the remains of the boot and sock off Larkin’s truncated leg and quickly pressed the flat of the blade against the stump to cauterise it. Larkin woke with a cry and then passed out again.
Gaunt had to cut off Larkin's foot when it got trapped in order to save him from the Daemon Tank. blade cauterizes the wound. Assuming a 8-10 cm diameter stump.. call it 50-100 sq cm if its between 30-125 j per sq cm you get between 1500 and 12500 joules for one side of the blade (or at least part of it.)




Page 354
He wondered if Tona had ever resented the responsibility she’d been landed with at Vervunhive. Certainly, she’d become a proxy parent for him and his sister, because there was no other option. Necessity had manufactured their relationship. She’d looked after them as fiercely as a she-wolf protecting her young.
..
Tona had explained on several occasions that Kolea had decided it best, for the childrens’ sake, not to upset their lives any further by stepping back into them. Dalin had little patience for this excuse. It felt like Kolea was washing his hands of them. He didn’t understand it, and he’d never approached Kolea directly about it, because it made him angry. It wasn’t as if you could have too many parents, especially in an odd social structure like the regiment. Plenty of Ghosts had been surrogate fathers and uncles and mothers and aunts over the years — Varl, Domor, Larkin, Aleksa, Bonin, Curth. His real blood father taking a role wouldn’t have fethed up anything worse than it was already fethed up.
..
But Caff… Caff had chosen, where Tona had been offered no choice, and Kolea had backed off. Caffran had chosen to be a father figure to Dalin. Caffran could have stepped back at any time, the way Kolea had stepped back, and, unlike Kolea, no one would have thought badly of him for it. For the last eight years or so, Caffran had raised him. Caffran had been there.
This was why it was Caff’s voice he had heard, he decided. He had been the one who had chosen, without duress, to care.
Dalin speculates on his family situation, in particular why he is hearing Caffran's voice in his little taste of Guard life. We get glimpses again of the 'non-military' side of the Guard and how it influences the child that grows up in that situation. Much with the celebration of his induction into the Guard earlier in the book, we see that Criid is part of a much larger extended family, because the regiment only has those bonds of unity holding it together and providing any sense of sanity or continuity in an otherwise insane, cruel galaxy. We also learn his doubts nad fears regarding Tona (although by all indications Tona genuinely loves him and his sister.), his frustrations with his Kolea and his standoffishness (showing only Kolea's fears holding him back until he realized it was too late.) and his regard for Caffran. Caffran really is unique in his life, special, especially given how Tona was absent on Gereon and the difficulties of her return.

now all that said, I suspect there is a deeper reason he hears Caff.. a bit of foreshadowing.



Page 358
A las round hit him square in the back with such force that it cannoned his body into Dalin. Their heads struck hard with a crack, and they both went down.
Imperial las-round. again it has momentum, but more than that it has enough to knock over him and Dalin implied (although it could be that Dalin overbalances when the body hits him, rather than the momentum from the bolt imparting that.) Allowing around 50-100 kg*m/s of momentum imparted to the first body and 1500 m/s exhaust velocity (speed of sound in tissue) 37.5-75 kilojoules per round. 30-65 grams vaporized 67.5 kj to 146 kj per shot.



Page 368
“Let’s be clear so there is no misunderstanding. The Inquisition can be very heavy handed. The Inquisition will be very heavy handed. Here, in the next few weeks, the agents of the ordos will not be gentle. Which is unfortunate, because these brave people deserve better. However, don’t expect me to apologise, and don’t expect me to order restraint. What we are engaged in here is vital work. It’s potentially the most important thing I’ve undertaken in my career.”
Welt makes a return. He's one of the big factors influencing the invasion of Gereon we understand. Or rather, Cirk has told them there is something to provide the Imperium resistance to or cure to taint, and thus the people of Gereon (such as remain) are in for a hard time. Chaos has used them horribly, and now the Imperium will too in the off chance of a cure for Chaos. Gaunt's oft-dreamed 'salvation' of Gereon comes with a bitter price. Horrible as it is, its rather interesting to see Welt again, because as I noted I rather liek him. He's honest, pragmatic, but not an evil guy. Which kind of makes what he does all the more horrible than anything Chaos has done, since its done without malice.




Page 371
“Are you saying the Imperial Guard and allied Crusade forces… millions of men and vast quantities of material… have been committed to the invasion of Gereon..."
Scope of the invasion.




Page 372
" Mkvenner, one of my original team, had a notion. He reckoned Chaos didn’t destroy us. It didn’t taint and infect like a disease. It didn’t work like that at all, which is why there could be no cure.”

“He believed in force of will, I presume,” said Welt.

“Precisely. Chaos isn’t evil. It simply unlocks and lets out our propensities for evil and desecration. That is why it is so pernicious. It brings out our flaws. Force of will, determination, loyalty… these are the qualities that combat Chaos taint. If a man can remain true to the Throne, Chaos can’t touch him. A hatred and rejection of Chaos becomes a weapon against it.”

“The armour of contempt,” said Welt. “I am familiar with Inquisitor Ravenor’s writings. The idea was not original to him.”

He stepped back from the rope rail. “You may be right. It is an enobling notion. We might save mankind by strength of character, rather than by an extracted tincture of moth venom. History will like the former better.”

He looked back at Gaunt. “But you’ll forgive me for testing the moth venom.”
Gaunt echoes Mkvenner's theory from Traitor General about the nature of Chaos, which very much echoes earlier intentions about said nature. It is not, as Gaunt says, evil, it is simply a reflection of mankind's nature (and the nature of all living beings.) which Welt refers to as the 'Armour of Contempt' - attributed to ravenor but apparently older in concept than him. It is a bit perverse that 'hatred' of Chaos, itself a negative motion, can be considered defense against it, although since I don't know of any Chaos god specifically dedicated to Hate.. who knows?

Welt however, is more of a realist. he acknowledges the merit of Gaunt's words, and even that its a positive, uplifting idea, but he himself does not feel that it will be easy to achieve. Much as we've seen before, Gaunt is naive and an idealist, which is not a bad thing, but it blinds him to the flaws of humanity sometimes, I think. Welt isn't so blind, and his remit is (like many Inquisitors) larger. Its horrible what he will do to Gereon and its people in pursuit of his cure, but in his position.. I can't really say I blame him, given what Chaos can mean for humanity, ultimately. I think that's maybe the worst thing about this again, because its not so simple as black and white, and there is no easy answer.



Page 378
“You mean Gaunt? I’m looking forward to meeting him. I’ve heard so much about him from my inquisitor. A rare creature, as I understand it. Honourable and highly principled. A total misfit, of course. They say when Warmaster Macaroth dines with his senior staff, he always asks to hear the latest stories of Gaunt and his ways. They amuse him so very much. Gaunt is a throwback to another era.”

“Which era would that be, sir?” Rawne asked.

Sydona laughed out loud. “I have no idea. A better one, perhaps. One that progress has left behind. He is atavistic. Noble, yes, but atavistic. We may enjoy the luxury of admiring him, but his breed is dying out. There’s no place for sentiment in the Imperium. No place for his kind of nobility either. If you’re career minded, major, you might consider a transfer to a unit with a more rational commander. Gaunt’s wearisome honour will get you killed.”
I think the cynicism overlaid in Sydona's attitude is... bleak. Its so pessimistic and jaded to treat the concepts that Gaunt (and by extention the other Ghosts.) as 'quaint' and outdated. its a reflection of how things have changed since Slaydo's time. It's all very cosmopolitan and logical and pragmatic and... very dead and lifeless. I think that's what makes it so worse, as it denies the value of anything positive and uplifting, things that might drive humanity to better itself as a race. The sort of inspiration and example-setting Gaunt excels at - the honour and loyalty - is completely absent here, becuase Sydona (and sadly, Welt, for all I like him) don't have that faith in humanity that Gaunt does. Its kind of ironic because its that kind of attitude, that cynicism, that defeats the armour of contempt that Gaunt and Ravenor speak of.


Page 383-384
A man lay on the tiles, bleeding out from a ghastly las wound through the gut.
..
Leclan had dropped to his knees beside the man, binding the bloody wounds, entry and exit.
Las bolt makes a 'through and through' hole through a large man. worth at least a couple kj, esp given the evident lack of thermal effect (or at least, minimal thermal effect.)



Page 395
The man was standing amongst the trees facing Eszrah, so still and green and quiet that he seemed to be a tree himself, or a hanging bough. He was very tall, and slender, and clad in the wode of a Nihtgane, but he was no Nihtgane that Eszrah knew. He held a fighting staff in one hand, and the filthy remains of a camo-cape were wrapped around his shoulders.
They don't say who it is, but its clearly MkVenner given the hints (Mkoll seems to recognize it.) We learn ealrier in the book that MkVenner was believed dead (no body recovered) by Chaos kill teams, but its clear he and his Nalsheen ways enabled his survival. one of the few bright spots of the book really is that he's still alive, and he's still fighting for Gereon's freedom (just against the imperium now- he frees the captured Partisans from Inquisitorial imprisonment.)

on the other hand, Cirk clearyl feels she has sacrificed her world to save Gaunt and it, because she replaced one oppressor with another (Chaos traded for Imperium.) because of the lies she told, and commits suicide with one of Ezrah's poisoned darts.




Page 403
The excubitor who had been hiding inside had a las-lock. When it went off, the noise in the confined space was huge.
..
The las-round hit Leclan, and took off the side of his head.
single digit kj probably. Partial headsplosion.




Page 404
The child, a boy of about nine or ten, had come out from under the shelves. Although it was much too big for him, he had picked up Leclan’s lasrifle and was pointing it at Caffran and the priest.
..
The boy fired three shots, the weight and discharge staggering him. Then he threw the weapon aside and ran.

“Caffran? Caffran!” Zweil yelled. He bent down and cradled the Ghost in his arms. There was blood everywhere, pumping from a huge, messy wound in Caffran’s chest.
Ah, the bookend of the book's Horror. All that foreshadowing and hinting leads to this moment of tragedy. In some ways it wasn't quite as horrible as Bragg's death in Guns of Tanith, because that was horrible and brutal and sudden (A counterpoint to the victory against Chaos.) Here, it simply provides the crown to all the death and destruction and bleakness we've experienced, but its tragic in its own way because the sequence has built up to this. Caffran dies suddenly, tragically, and accidentally - it wasn't in war.. it was the result of a terrified, brutalized child that Caffran was trying to save. the same sort of brutal, senseless ironies Dalin experienced, and has to experience again. On a personal level, I feel this is worse than Bragg's death because we've had longer to grow attached to Caffran, and he was one part of one of the few happy things to happen in the series to the Ghosts. But Gereon cut that short. First it messed up Criid so much she took time to recover.. but she never recovered fully before Caffran was taken from her. He wanted to conquer Gereon and reclaim his woman and family.. when Gereon took him. He never got to say goodbye to Dalin properly, to give him the pin Kolea wanted him to pass along. To fight alongside his son. Its a very deep, personal touch that drives home the sheer horribleness and destrsuctiveness of war in a way no dry depiction of planetary destruction ever could.

And yet.. there is still some positive. Dalin is not alone. He has Tona. He has Kolea. He has a whole regiment as his family to support and protect and guide him. It hurts to lose Caffran, but there will be those still who will uphold his memory and his duties.

Another tragic thing about this is that Caffran tries to give Zweil a a cap pin, the one I suspect Kolea gave him. I suspect it may be symbolic of Kolea's fears and possible death being diverted onto Caffran (the man who chose to be Dalin's father.) without Kolea realizing it. And Dalin seeing and hearing Caffran (and Tona at least once) was a bit of foreshadowing there too, I suspect. At the very end, Criid greets Dalin and gives him a insignia, which I suspect is the one Kolea gives Caffran. that final twist of the knife that seals this as a horrible (in a good way) book.

i suppose icould comment on the implied momentum/recoil of the lasweapon and the effect on Caffran's torso, but I honestly don't know how to do it, and the entire scene's emotional impact sort of robs me of the ability. I think i'll just leave it as is.
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Only in Death up next. I should note this marks the start of me buying the 'hardcover' Ghosts novels, because IG Fanboy I am, I can't resist getting hardcovers of this series (or Cain, or certain other novels.) Of course given how BL has moved to 'bigger paperbacks that cost more' too, I'm not sure there's much difference either way :P

Only in Death is the final novel in the current cycle, and the current 'complete' one to my knowledge (the other two has Blood Pact, Salvations' Reach, and the 'still to be released' Warmaster. Whether there is another book in that cylce we don't know, but it would fit the pattern.) It sort of stands out as a book in the series because it doesn't really deal much with events that have come before (except for follow-through on Caffran's demise, Dalin becoming a Ghost, Merrt's lasgun of Death - literally - and a few others.) Its more a tie in to future events, I suspect. The Ghosts are placed to guard against Archenemy forces by occupying some old fort/house. Little do they know the enemy is there (literally) under their nose. About midway through the book they lose Gaunt, and have to face a future without their leader. I suppose its interesting to show how central to the regiment Gaunt is as a character, and the way it impacts everyone differently, but we kind of already had that with Traitor General/His Last Command, so it doesn't really feel the same. It actually just feels like more filler, which caps an arc that felt more filler-ish overall because unlike the last one, it didn't really *go* anywhere major (although the look at Chaos was interesting.) The next arc thus far has the promise of being 'epic' given what happened in Blood Pact and Salvation's Reach, but we shall see.


Like most of the books this will be a quick two-post update. I've got two more books in the main arc to do, plus a couple of other spinoffs (Brothers of the Sanke, Double Eagle, and Titanicus ) and one anthology (Sabbat World's Crusade, marking a bunch of other guys writing in Dan's sandbox, which is also interesting.) Also for some bizarre reason I left off the short story 'In Remembrance' from the first omnibus, so I'll probably throw that in at some later date.


Page 12
Then there was the dust. The dust got into everything..
..
Rifles fatigued and ailed, polished steel scoured matt, and mechanisms jammed, until Gaunt ordered weapons to be carried cased in weather-proofs.
Grit/dust sand seems to interfere with Ghost rifles. I guess not all lasguns are 'all terrain/weather' durable :P They also have mechanisms, which is curious/interesting as the 'realistic' sci fi laser rifles I've seen proposed (again Luke Campbell and ATomic Rockets) being my benchmark indicate that they can be made with few/no moving parts and very self contained (which is consistent with the 'tradtiional' lasweapon description.) Although as I've noted many times before Honour-Guard onwards, Ghost lasweapons do not seem to be actual lasers in many many ways :P



Page 13
Jago had been fortified long before the reach of mankind’s memory. Its rocky, howling, fuming crust had been mined out and laced with thousands of kilometres of casemates, bunkers and structural emplacements. Ludd wondered what manner of long-forgotten war had engulfed the place so thoroughly that such formidable earthworks had been necessary.
..
How could anyone tell where one fortress line ended and the next began? Elikon had been a bewildering matrix of sub-crust forts, a labyrinth of tunnels and hard points, a maze of armoured tunnels and cloche turrets, sprouting from the landscape like mushrooms.
Fortress world, probably of Xenos oririn or thereabouts.



Page 26
Two and a half thousand Imperial Guardsmen made a considerable row just walking.
It seems the Tanith regiments are now only around 2500 strong (which Gaunt later calls a 'small' regiment.) Assuming my guesses from 'His Last Command' were reasonable, the Ghost/Belldon amalgamated regiment has lost 1500 people. In retrospect my previous estimate was for the total at the time of amalgamation, and two years is a long time to be losing men, so by the time of HLC they could be less, plus HLC, and Armour of Contempt. four, maybe five years? AT that rate of loss they can't last more than another decade, tops, without further amalgamation.

Page 26-27
Dalin had acquired a special place in the regiment, one that he was not entirely comfortable with. Touchstone, lucky charm, new blood. He was the boy who’d made good, the first son of the Ghosts.
And bad rock Jago was his first combat posting as part of the Tanith First-and-Only, which made this more like a rite of passage, an initiation. Dalin Criid had a big legacy to uphold.
Two big legacies, in fact: the regiment’s and his father’s.
..
..Meryn was a Rawne in waiting, and styled himself on the number two officer’s vicious manner. Time, Dalin had been reliably informed, had mellowed Rawne’s notoriously sharp edges a little… well, if not mellowed then weathered. All the while, Meryn had been getting sharper, as if he was gunning for the top bastard prize.
..
Meryn glared at him for a moment and then-
oh please, no, don’t
- nodded. Dalin hated that. He hated the fact that Meryn cut him slack because of who and what he was.
...
Bastard, bastard, bastard, treat me like the rest, treat me like the others, not like some… not like I’m Caffran’s fething ghost…
Dalin and Meryn. Meryn's still a dick (big surprise) but Dalin has slipped into Brin Milo's place it seems in the Ghosts, albeit for different reasons (something I speculated on last book.) He's not happy with the special status due to the nature of his adopted parents. He also seems to be living in Caffran's shadow, or feels he is, which is a bit of a burden for him to live up to.
Still, its a sign that his 'extended family' looks out for him even now, which is not a bad thing.



Page 28
Ten centimetres of fighting knife, locked in place. The trademark weapon of the Tanith Ghosts.
..
He was a Ghost, and he had just fixed silver, straight silver, in anger for the very first time.
Ghost Knives have shrunk it seems :P I'm assuming he might have been thinking inches rather than centimetres, as they're usually thirty centimetres. 10" would be ~25 cm or so.



Page 28-29
Five seventy metres, panning, lock off. Larkin slowly travelled his scope.
..
Kill-shot at four thousand metres. He’d managed that once or twice. It was as if he had a special, holy angel watching over him, guiding his aim. A special angel. He’d seen her once.
4 km seems to extreme limits for long las range (as in 'poor/no chance ot hit' although Larkin being an exceptional sniper means he made it. The closest real life equivalent would be a .50 cal at some 2800 m (see here Normal effective range is some 1.8 km. If we scaled down the normal 'effective range' for a long-las would be some 2560 m or so, which is roughly consistent with 'Siege of Castellax' and other sources. Likewise a lasgun would have an effective range (by FFG comparison) of around 1700 m, which is consistent iwth other known estimates. Mind you, this is fairly arbitrary, as other .50 cal rifles have ranges of 2+ km depending on source (and nature of target) and the long las may not neccesarily be 'just' .50 cal (it could be more powerful, or less powerful.)
In any case, a long las (and lasgun) effective ranges are determined more by accuracy issues than lethality, and this demonstrates it. A sufficiently skilled shooter could still probably plink targets at 4 km or so. I figure a lasgun would be worth at least a km or two itself, although comparisons of lethality depend more on lasgun setting and comparisons to a hotshot round (which is overpowered so that can make a difference here.)
Also mention of Larkin's angel, from Ghostmaker. I wonder if he's referring to the Nokad shot for this instance? Also to note he thinks he continues to see and speak to Bragg, Corbec, etc. A few others (Tona for example seeing Caffran) experience similar, or experience other 'ghostly' sensations (no pun intended.)



Page 33
Except, as he knew very well, there was no skin under that glove, just augmetic bones and sinews, just wires and plasteks and solenoids.
Hark's augmetic and its composition.


Page 35
He was leading a fire-team of six men from B Company, ..
VArl's fire team. Again fire team seems to be 'variable' as a formation and very unofficial.. it can be large numbers (Greater than a squad) or formations far smaller than one (such as here.) They seem to tailor it to the situation.


Page 36-37
Gonlevy and Cant began to wind on the levers on top of the lid.
“It won’t budge, sarge,” said Cant.
..
Viktor Hark put out his left hand. His augmetic fingers closed like a vice around the winding handle.
..
Hark’s arm turned. With a creaking, shrieking complaint, the gears turned and the lid began to open.
Implying Hark's one hand is at least equal to two Ghosts winding on the lever, presumably at full strength and with both hands.



Page 42-43
“let’s just say if I’d chosen to muster out at Guard retirement age, as per the edicts, I’d have been a man of leisure for thirteen years now.”
..
“Age-muster is, of course, voluntary. Besides, where would I go?”
..
“As a local doctor. A local doctor, serving some backwater community on a colony world. That’d be all right with me. The day comes I get too old, too slow to keep up with the pace of the Tanith First, that’s where I want to end up. Leave me somewhere, would you? Somewhere I can treat sprains and flu and ague, and the odd broken bone or colicky newborn. Somewhere quiet. Will you do that for me, when the day comes?”
Dorden contemplates retirement. It is possible (for non combat types at least) to muster out of the guard due to old age if one chooses. Probably makes some sense as the effort of keeping the elderly alive wouldn't be worth it for the Munitorum.



Page 43
Gaunt got to his feet. “I’ll find you that colony world, time comes,” he said. “That’s a promise. Maybe it’ll even be the world the Tanith get to settle. Our reward for service.”
“Ibram, do you honestly believe that’s ever going to happen?”
Gaunt was silent for a long time. “No,” he said finally.
Warmaster Slaydo had promised Gaunt the settlement rights of the first world he won, as a reward after Balhaut. Gaunt had always intended to share that reward with the homeless Tanith. “Somehow, I doubt Macaroth will honour a rash promise his predecessor made,” Gaunt said quietly.
Gaunt has doubts he'll fufill his promise or that Macaroth will do it.



Page 48-49
There was a hole in the wall at chest height just to his right, a small hole, half a centimetre in diameter, that had certainly not been there before. The edges of the hole were smouldering slightly.
“Shoggy?” he said, and then registered a sudden, sharp sensation of pain. He glanced down at his right arm. A flesh wound was scorched right across the outside of his upper arm. It had burned through his jacket and shirt, and into the skin beneath, leaving a gouge of cooked, black blood.
..
He turned around, slightly head-sick with shock. The las-round had come clean through the wall, sliced across the side of his right arm, and…
Domor was leaning back against the workbench behind them in a slightly awkward pose. He was staring at Baskevyl with his big, artificial eyes, which whirred and turned, unable to focus. He was trying to say something, but all he was managing to do was aspirate blood.
There was a black, bloody puncture in the middle of his chest.
..
The word was, “down.” It came out of his lips in a ghastly mist of blood.
Baskevyl grabbed Domor and dragged him over onto the workshop floor.
A second later, more holes began to appear in the satin brown panel: two, three, a dozen, twenty, forty.
On the other side of the wall panel, someone had just opened up with a las-weapon on full auto.
Several things. First off the lasround makes a 5 mm diameter hole in stuff, which is interesting for the hole size/focal point of lasfire. Secondly, rate of fire. Its implied within a second or two (no more than a few seconds) that lasfire makes up to forty or twenty holes in the panels. Implies rate of fire of maybe 12-40 rounds per second, or so depending on implications, either way its much higher than implied in Uplifting primer.

Also a single las shot that grazes Baskevyl's arm also puts a nasty hole in Domor. Domor's hit is probably at least worth a few kj based on what we know (nevermind thermal effects), and the graze along Baskyvl's arm. If we figure 5 mm and 10-15 cm across thats at least 5-10 sq cm, but if its 1-2 cm across we're talking 10-30 sq cm. at 30-50 j per sq cm thats between 150 and 1500 j for the graze. If we figure 24 sq cm to 94 sq cm for Domor's chest wound and same we're talking between 720 and 4700 J. AT least 870 J to 6200 J for the las-shot implied, by thermal damage alone.



Page 52
Chiria had other ideas. She swung her lasrifle up to her shoulder and hosed the punctured wall, pricking the gloom with barbs of full-auto light.
“Get Shoggy up. Drag him back!” she yelled as she lit off. Domor was dead, she knew that uch. One glimpse had been all she’d needed to know. A round to the body, heart shot...
Nothing, no return of fire, just a gusty moan of wind weeping through the hundreds of holes in the smoking, shot-up wall panel.
Lasfire. Domor heart shot.. hundreds of shots from several lasweapons. Non explosive but penetrating.



Page 53
Curth was too busy to answer. In the absence of a bone saw, she’d reached up and helped herself to Nehn’s warknife.
..
He winced at the sight of Curth carving into Domor with his blade. Curth’s hands were slippery with blood. There was an ugly crack as she sectioned the sternum.
Straight silver makes a useful bone saw - easily cutting through bone. Probably reflect its sharpness as much as weight/cutting power, as you're using it for surgical purposes (you can't just apply raw power and expect to cut through precisely)



Page 53-54
“Upper torso puncture,” replied Curth as she worked frantically,
..
“Oh, that’s a mess…”
“You can clamp that shut with your fingers or you can get the feth out of my way!” Curth barked at him as she hastily prepped the tissue weaver from the kit.
Dorden snapped on a glove, reached in and clamped. “There’s a secondary hole in the aorta,” he began, peering down.
..
“I’ve nearly got it!” spat Curth, trying to aim the tissue weaver.
“Auto patch it there. There, woman!”
..
Calmly holding Domor’s barely beating heart together as Curth heat-bonded its punctures shut, Dorden looked up at Chiria.
More on Domor's injury. Hit in the heart, it apparentyl was a big enough wound that Dorden is needed to 'hold it' together while Curth seals the wounds (and it punched through both sides) Figure at least finger sized wound, which would imply the higher end of my previous calc is the more likely one.


Page 56
.. las-rounds and hard slugs, whizzing around them like a firework display. Swaythe grunted and spilled sideways as he took a round in the arm. Fargher let out a slight, sad sigh as he slammed over onto his back. As the adjutant landed, his limbs juddering, Dalin could see that Fargher’s skull case had been forced out through the back of his shaved scalp in thick, white splinters. There was a black scorch mark on the ghastly, slack flesh of Fargher’s forehead where the demolishing shot had entered.
Las-weapon headsplosion.. at least single digit kj, if not double digit due to partial demolishing of skull (blown out bakc, probably.)
I should note Meryn is leading a fire team here. Inlcuding the man who just died, and the one who went down, Plus Meryn and Dalin and eight others, that makes some eleven or twelve.



PAge 56-57
Cardy smashed over onto his back with a dry cough as a las-round exploded his neck. Seerk squealed as he was hit twice in the stomach. He fell down on his hands and knees, and his shrill noises ceased abruptly as another round blew the top of his head in.
Las round 'explodes' neck - again probably at least single digit kj. Impiles another lasround blows out top of head partly.. again at least single if not double digit kj.



Page 57
Venklin slowly backed into a wall and slid down it, blood and smoke leaking out of his surprised mouth.
Smoke from the mouth, indicative of the thermal effects of lasfire internally cooking injuries.



Page 57
Dalin bent down and pulled the bundled schematics out of Fargher’s pocket. The adjutant’s dismantled head lolled unpleasantly as Dalin dragged the papers free.
Another indication of Fargher's partly (at least) headsploded skull. Not completely blown off, but blown away significantly it seems - its only partly there.



Page 62
“And Swaythe?”
“Broken limb, some tissue damage, but he’s all right.”
Whatever hit Swaythe broke the limb. Possibly las fire, possibly hard slug.



Page 63
Two support weapons, crew-served .30s on blunt iron tripods, watched the doorway.
Ghosts again using .30 cal support weapons.



Page 72
Hard rounds and las-bolts dug into the ceiling and walls, some of them ricocheted off wildly, pinging almost comically around the tight box of the hallway like angry insects trying to escape.
Ricocheting las rounds



Page 76
“Take my las. I can’t shoot it one-handed, and your pop gun isn’t going to be worth shit when this happens. "
..
Reluctantly, Ludd put his sidearm away and hung Twenzet’s rifle over his left shoulder.
Ludd uses a laspistol, as I recall, which means a lasrifle is more powerful than a laspistol, although whether on a per shot basis or because it pumps out more rounds we don't know.



Page 76-78
Baskevyl swallowed hard. His lamp-pack was shaking in his hand. He drew his laspistol.
..
Gaunt, Kolea and Mkoll were pinned behind a pile of stones about twenty metres below and to the left of the cave fissure. Streaks of fire - tracer and las - spat horizontally out of the rocky plain beyond them and struck against the cliff wall with a sound like slapped flesh.
..
Now he could see what they were dealing with. Belches of muzzle flash from a heavy gun, something on a tripod he presumed, winked a hundred metres beyond the chiefs position. Snap shots from shooters scattered in the surface rocks added their support.
“Heavy stub, one hundred left and out,” he voxed quietly.
“I see it,” replied Criid. “There was another one, fifty right of it. It’s stopped firing now. Changing boxes or barrels, is my guess.”
..
They all started firing. Baskevyl, Pabst and Mkteal trained their shots directly on the source of the heavy fire, peppering the rocks around the origin point of the chunky muzzle flash. Starck and Orrin raked punishing rapid fire across the whole area.
Baskevyl is using a laspistol around 100-120 metres (possibly more) from the targets. They're hitting stuff so presumably there is some odds of it being accurate fire. Its not the first time laspistols have had similar range (Honour Guard implied, and Draco is anothre.)



PAge 78-79
“Bang,” she said, and unloaded a stream of six tightly grouped las-shots that blew the shooter out of cover and left him sprawled across the rock litter.
Immediately, she rolled, to prevent the shooter’s partner replicating the same trick on her. Two las-bolts clipped off the side of the boulder where she had just been crouching.
Impiles Criid gets off six shots in about a second. Either thats full auto/burst mode (semi auto?) or she's just that fast semi :P



Page 79
They scrambled up the pile of stones, bellied down, and began firing, bolt pistol and lasrifle side by side. Gaunt saw dark shapes moving amongst the rocks, and checked his aim. He fired again, and saw a red and black figure smash backwards against the face of a boulder and slump.
Gaunt's bolt pistol at again ~100 metres or so. This time its accurate fire, (and last time he hit his target on the first try) so we might figure the same is true of a laspistol.




PAge 79
His plasma gun beamed out from the doorway, incinerating the torsos and heads of three oncoming assault troops in quick succession. Their ruined bodies dropped like bundles of sticks into the dust.
At least partial incineration. Could mean badly burnt or cremated. If the former we're probably talking a good 5000 sq cm at least, which at 50-125 j per sq cm for flash burns is between 250-625 kj. If we are talking cremation..problab ya good 30-40 kg at least burnt, which is tens or hundreds of megajoules per shot.



Page 80
By his side, Hark fired again and vaporised the legs of a trumpet blower.
Legs vaporised. Single, double digit MJ maybe?



Page 80
Seena yelled as she and Arilla carried their .30 out through the hatch. Maggs began to help them bed it down and fix its tripod into the dust.
..
The .30 opened up. It made a clinking whirr, like a monstrous sewing machine. Its clattering hail cut a swathe through the front rank of the charging enemy. As Arilla fed it, Seena expertly washed the heavy cannon from side to side. It mowed the Blood Pact down. It ripped them apart, mangled limb from mangled limb.
Another .30 cal support weapon, tripod. Makes a real mess of its targets too.


Page 81
The wave struck the Ghost line. There was a palpable, shivering clash. Straight silver met chainmail, and trench axes and spears met moulded body plating.
Implies that the Ghost body armour is 'moulded body plating' of some kind.



Page 81
He turned again and narrowly avoided a lunging spear. Ducking, he rolled and destroyed knees and shin bones with a burst of fire.
Bonin's lasfire destroys legs. We dont know how many shots, but demolishing the bones would at least require a single pulse of a few kj apiece, if we figure 3rd to 4th degree burns (50-400 j per sq cm) over a 10x20 cm area each (800 sq cm) you might get between 40 and 230 kj for the burst
Figure at least double digit kj for the burst total to demolish both legs.


Page 82
Hark melted a grotesk - and the skull behind it - with a single shot from his potent energy weapon.
Plasma pistol agian. At least single digit MJ probably.


Page 83
Larkin reloaded, panned, and aimed. “Trumpet,” he decided, and fired.
A horn blower convulsed as the top of his head blew off. He fell.
Long las partial headsplosion.



Page 85
Cordrun felt a trench axe bite into the body armour encasing his back, and then, abruptly, felt it snatch free again as its Blood Pact owner was hurled over by a dart that transfixed the middle of his grotesk’s forehead.
Impiles the Ghost body armour stopped the trench axe blow - or slowed it enough that Eszrah could shoot the wielder dead - noticable fraction of a second.



Page 93-94
“Don’t make friends with the troops, for feth’s sake. Don’t bond with the likes of Twenzet. He’s rank and file, and you’re Commissariate. You don’t mix. Don’t make him your new best friend. You have to preserve the separation of authority.”
..
“I heard you. First name terms. He’s a dog-soldier, and you’re the moral backbone of the outfit. He’s not your friend. None of them are your friends. They’re soldiers and you’re their commissar. They have to respect you totally.”
..
“Nahum is a commissar. He needs to command complete and utter authority. He needs to be a figure of fear and power to the troop ranks. He cannot afford the luxury of friendships or favouritism.”
Hark lectures Nahum on being a Commissar. In case we forgot what he was first and foremost. He treats the Ghosts well, but he isn' t their friends.



PAge 101
“We found evidence of some climbing tackle, some pinned-up stuff, but they’ve been pretty much coming up here and getting in by fingertips and effort alone.”
..
“That’s got to be some ugly upper body strength.”
..
The drop was huge and the rock wall sheer. Gaunt looked down. The distance was immense and dizzying.
..
If he’d been trying to take Hinzerhaus from the north, the last thing he’d have suggested to his men was scaling the cliffs. He wouldn’t have expected them to even think of it, let alone try it. The tenacity of the Blood Pact was an object lesson. They had no fear, or limitation on their endurance.
An indicator of how tough the Blood PAct can be. And determined.



Page 108
The larger aircraft was a big Destrier, a bulk lifter, painted drab cream and marked with a flank stencil that read “K862”. It was making the most noise, its big engines howling as the pilot eased it down in a ponderous curve.
The other aircraft was a Valkyrie assault carrier, a hook-nosed machine one-third the size of the heavy lifter. The Valk was painted khaki with a cream belly. Its tail boom was striped with red chevrons and the stencil “CADOGUS 52”.
Destrier lander. Not sure whether its a drop ship or some sort of aircraft akin to a larger Valkyrie. Could go either way I suppose, but its 3x the size of a Valk (whether in mass, or volume, or what we don't know.
Cadogus 52 is the regimental name for the Valkyrie (or at least the regiment it is attached to.)



Page 111
He worked to unjam it. It seemed to cooperate. Merrt trained it and fired. There was a jolt. The lasrifle emptied its entire load in one disastrous cough of energy. The blast threw Merrt down on his back. The blistering ball of discharge hit rocks twenty metres away and exploded like a tube-charge, throwing a drizzle of earth, dust and grit into the air.
The oft-alluded to 'las dischrage equal to tube charge' scene. Basically the lasweapon unloads (misfires) and discharges all at once, creating explosive effect and knocking Merrt down with the recoil As noted, this hints at laspacks carrying enough power equal to a greande or tube charge roughly, which would imply at least single digit MJ for all the previous examples.
The interesting thing about this is, we know long las discharge THEIR powerpacks in a singel shot, so its not TOO surprising that a regular laser might, after all the sniper variant is just that - a variant with certain compoments (EG Barrel, powerpack) switched out. A normal laswepaon is not configured to discharge like that, but its not impossbile. Likewise, some las-locks (also 'single shot' weapons) are made from old lasguns too, similar consequences implied. So its not impossible for a lasweapon to be rigged (or configured) for high kj/low MJ range shots, in theory (or at least a burst of shots totalling that output!)
Alternately, it could imply that a lasburst discharging all at once is equal to a high explosive detonation. Or that lasfire can be configured as such :P Again like a Long-las.





Page 111
Full, heavy drums of water landed hard and askew in the dust either side of the body. Another member of the team fell as he was winged, got up, and fell again as a second shot burst through one of the drums he was carrying and into his hip.
Implies that whatever the round was, it penetrated throught the drum (filled with water) to hit the person behind. Figure at least 10-15 kilos of water held. EAch drum would have to be at least a good 15-20 cm in diameter, on top of the penetration of the flesh. Single/double digit kj at least implied (think to Ghostmaker and similar examples of lasfire piercing through water.)



Page 116-117
Karples got up and produced a hololithic projector from his bag. He set it on the desk and aimed the caster lens at the back wall of the office. The device hummed, and projected a hazy three-dimensional graphic into the air. Karples walked into it and began to point towards certain features.
“The main elements of our opposition were identified by early orbit sweeps and sat-scatter as accumulated here in the Jaagen Lowlands, and here in the lower provinces."
..
“No, it’s not, colonel-commissar. Undetected by the sat-scatter drones, the enemy had massed considerable forces here, here and here before we made planetfall, the Kehulg Basin in particular. These forces have swept around out of cover and achieved a pincer around the Elikon front.”"
Long and short of it was, Chaos prepared for months, and tricked the Imperium into improper deployments that left them off-balance. Note the use of 'sat scatter' and drones, which I gather are orbital (and perhaps sub orbital) surveillance.



Page 117
“The Cadogus Fifty-Second has deployed in total strength configuration. Twenty thousand men, plus armour and artillery, along with battlefield psykers. "
..
"Five companies of mechanised infantry will be arriving in the next three days. Full support. "
The CAdogus 52nd.. very much a combined arms force with apparently organic infantry, artillery, and armour. At least partly mechanised (5 companies, prboably more) and they have Valks if we go by the previous assessment. Reminds me very much of the Jourans from Storm of Iron, or the Jantine, or the Volpone for tha tmatter.



Page 133
It was the cruel, glaring iron grotesk of a Blood Pact warrior.
Wes Maggs shot it anyway. The face exploded.
Lasbolt headsplosion. Single digit kj at least, probably more given the Grotesque.



Page 136
Berenson grinned. He was clutching a brand new, short-pattern lascarbine with a bullpup grip.
Bullpup lascarbine . Probably not Ghost provence, but Cadogus.



PAge 138
The hot shots of the expert snipers zipped into the charging host and took out warriors one at a time, blowing the running figures apart.
Implies grenade/tube charge level damage probably.



PAge 138-139
His long-las had just refused to fire. Time to change barrels.
..
“Two more in the bag there. Get one,”
I'd guess that the Snipers carry at least a couple score hotshots, given that they pack at least 2-3 barrels (more) per usage (each barrel is supposed to be good for ~20 shots)



PAge 139
Over went a Blood Pact officer, sword raised, mid-yell. No amount of labour would ever piece that iron mask back together.
..
A Blood Pact warrior lost a pelvis instead of a skull. Still…
More Long las damage.



PAge 139
Her exchangeable long-las barrel was truly spent, and the carbon scoring had fused it into the body of her weapon.
Long las barrels get carbon scoring from over use. Possibly refers to either carbonization (indicating there is some chemical reaction involved in lasweapons) Or it may be some vague allusion to heat warping the barrel (even though no carbonizing would technoically be involved, as there is no organic material.. but extreme tempreatures are involved in tempering and can fuck up materials.)


Page 141
A backwash of discharge smoke had built up like smog in the ancient hallways.
Discharge smoke (again) p resumably from lasweapons.


Page 144-145
Lit by the same amber glow, the long gun room was high-ceilinged and lined with racks. Rows of ancient guns, most of them huge, the size of .50s, waited upright in the wooden racks for long-dead warriors who would never return to use them. T
..
“Las?” Bonin asked.
“Yeah. I think so,” Hwlan replied, opening the action of the gun he was holding. “Single shot charge, old style, like a las-lock. Feth, this thing is heavy.”
..
"Wall guns,” Coir repeated, taking one down from the racks for himself. Dec Coir was well known in the regiment for his knowledge of antique firearms. He carried a single shot las-lock pistol as a back-up piece.
..
" Slow rate of fire, mind you, but the sheer kill power…”
..
It was full of pebbles, brown satin pebbles the size of a human eyeball. “Is this the ammo?” he asked.
..
“The warmth of your hand is heating up the volatile core,”
The city fort has some sort of alien las-lock type weapons. Run off a eyeball sized power source. Assuming 66 cubic cm and 1.25 kj per cubic cm each shot would be at least 83 kj per shot. Which would in turn imply an upper limit on (standard) lasweapons. Possibly just single, but also possibly full auto/burst fire.
The interesting thing is, if these are similar technology to las weapons, the 'volatile' power source (like a las powerpack) might actually imply something like a chemical source, which is consistent with the odd properties of recoil, las-smoke, etc. Also las-lock pistols.
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Part deux.

Page 148
He pushed his way along the support tunnel, coughing smelling blood and las-smoke.
Las smoke. Again I wonder if the lasweapons the Ghosts use run on some chemical reaction or fuel cell type powerpack rather than a battery (at leats in some cases) Thus the reason they can recoil sometimes and the 'las smoke/discharge smoke' we hear about. Not impossible, and it would explain the 'gunfire-like' properties of most of them (although not all.) It might also explain why (for example) they worried about running out of ammo in Guns of Tanith as well.


Page 148
Larkin reloaded and fired again, hanging right out of the slit. He’d aimed his second hot shot at the spiked ladder, and had blown through several rungs and one side of the ladder frame. The remaining upright broke under tension with a loud ping, and a large stretch of the ladder tore free.
Lark's long-las blasts apart several metal rungs and the side of the ladder frame. Without knowing exact dimensions we can't calc it, but it sstill impressive. I'd guess double digit kj at least. Maybe 50-100 kj if we figure structural steel and punching through some 10-15 cm of metal, with a 2-3 cm hole?


Page 149
Gaunt’s bolt pistol had serious stopping power and he used it to full effect. Those raiders who came at him were hurled backwards by his bolt rounds, knocking down the raiders at their heels like bowling pins.
Gaunt's bolt pistol and its knockdown power.



PAge 156
Daur’s gun was dry. He’d drained the entire cell with one long pull on the trigger. There was no one left alive in the support tunnel except him.
..
He’d just experienced the most intense fifteen seconds of his life.
Laspistol powerpack drained after 15 constant seconds. 1-2 shots per second at least, if we go with the munioturm manual 80 shots per second, its more like 5-6 shots per second. If we go by powerpack capacity (estimate) of around 90-100 kj per shot to maybe 250-300 kj, that leads to an output for laspistols of between 6 kw and 20 kw.



Page 157
Larkin had been creased twice, and Rawne had taken a deflection in the front of his chest armour that had split the plate in half.
Shot form Blood Pact weapon splits plate. We dont know what it was. but if we contrast off other examples.. like His Last Command and the Straight Silver/Storm of Iron. it must be at least as good or better than full calibre bolt action rounds, although unlike HLC it does not breka the skin. Whether it is lasfire or a hard round is also up for debate, but as I discussed in Straight Silver it may not matter greatly for the reasons givne there, and may acutally be impressive as far as the firepower implied (it would be close to the probably resistance threshold of Ghost armor, anyhow, which might imply better than full power round performance, at least penetration wise.)


Page 163
Dalin tried to squeeze off a burst, but was lurched violently sideways as a las-bolt splintered off his chest plating. The shocking impact knocked him off his feet and punched the air out of his lungs.
Dalin takes las-round to chest. As I've discussed in this book, HLC and Striaght Silver, this can have some interesting implications for lasfire depending on the context and example (see here, here and here. That it knocks him back implies considerable force, even if it splinters (but not breaks) his chest armour. REcall that in Straight Silver Mkoll took a round that didn't seriously penetrate (but did bruise his body), which would imply at least that same magnitude here, quite possibly. Indeed, resisting lasfire is probably pretty impressive given the implied power of at least some of the lasweapon examples, although as noted the 'resilisence' to lasweapons can depend greatly on the damage mechanism(s) employed. A 'blaster' and a 'heat ray' are not the same thing, and resilience to one may not mean resilience to the other kind.
It is thus safe to say scout and light infantry body armour with inserts is resilient to las and projectile fire equivalent at least to full power rifle rounds (or better, but still under .50 BMG grade of course.)




PAge 163
The remaining raider turned in time to meet a streaking las-round face on. His head blew apart in a cloud of blood and metal, and his body dropped.
Merrt's lasrifle headsplodes Blood Pact trooper. Single if not double digit kj



PAge 169
Famous battles did not leave dignified remains.
..
There was nothing heroic about the scene that greeted him.
The stretch of hallway was a charnel house. It looked as if a mad vivisectionist had gone to work and then burned all of his findings. The air was filled with steam and smoke. The smoke issued from the burning corpses and the steam from the wet. The floor was coated several centimetres deep with blood and mushed tissue.
Dorden took the lamp-pack from Rawne. Zweil moaned and covered his nose with a handkerchief. The lamp beam moved. There was not a single intact body. Bodies lay burned to a crisp, grinning out of blackened, heat-stiffened faces. Bodies lay burst like meat sacks, trailing loops of pungent yellow intestine across the soaked floor. Parts of bodies littered the floor space: a hand, a chopped off foot in a boot, a chunk of flesh, the side of a face, half a grotesk.
Another 'glorious' battle for the Ghosts, or rather the aftermath of such. Its another of those nice 'contrast' scenes I think... all that action and victory we read always has a price, and its a terrible price. That's how its been throughout the series, but particularily this arc, and Abnett has gone to quite some lengths to emphasize that with scenes like this. Whilst technically the level of devastation is impressive, its also horrific in the sense thse are human bodies, and we can only get the description, imagine how much worse it would be for real - the stink of blood, offal, bodily waste... as Dorden said there is nothing glorious or dignified about that.




Page 175
"You and me, Eli. There aren’t many of us left now. Fewer with each passing day. Do you remember the Founding Fields, outside Tanith Magna?”
..
Larkin chuckled. “That row of tents. There was me and Bragg, and you, Feygor, Corbec. All set for a life in the Guard, we were. Young, stupid and full of piss and vinegar. Ready to set the galaxy burning.”
..
"Now look at us. Bragg’s gone, long gone, Feygor, dear old Colm, who always seemed like he’d live forever. Feth it, I’m not even here as completely as I’d have liked.”
Rawne and LArkin reminisice. Gaunt has been lost and presumed dead I'll touch on that a moment, but I wanted to note the above and how it can hit you. That scene was from Ghostmaker, and it was actually noted. To recall that (not too long to my memory of this, as I've been reading the series straight through from beginning to end) its fresh and it really drives home the losses the Ghosts have suffered to this point Two of those five now remain, held together only by that old bond of Comradeship (Old Ghosts) and by their experiences on Gereon. And as we've seen, no character (except maybe Gaunt) is truly immune from death, and it could be Larkin, Rawne, or both may die before this series ends. The book is full of little scenes like this, and its a cap to the general idea of 'darkness' present in this arc. Of all the Sequences, this one is the most dark, the bleakest, and the most filled with loss, compared to the last one which was, generally, positive.

And now.. Gaunt. He's gone, taken or killed by the Blood Pact, and its affecting the whole regiment. Gaunt wasn't just their leader, he was their center. Their spiritual core, their reason for being, their motivation to fight and succesed. We saw a glimpse of that in His Last Command, but even then its not remotely the same. Simply being missing is not hte same as 'believing' he's dead. In the former, they can always hope for a return, and hope is powerful. In this case, they believe so strongly he died (Becaues they recovered his sword) that there is no chance for hope. Indeed, Rawne, Hark and the otehrs worry they will not be able to hold the Ghosts together through this. Again its a powerful, bleak scene, because its the first time in the series we actually have to see the Ghosts making do without Gaunt, even if its just for half a book. It really emphasizes the bond and impact he has had on them - Gaunt is as vital to the Ghosts existence as the Ghosts are to Gaunt.



Page 178
“My birth mother, not Tona, back at Vervunhive, where I was born. You’re Verghastite. Did you know my family?”
Kolea shrugged. “Yes.”
“Really?”
“I knew them very well.”
“Why haven’t you spoken to me about them before, sir? My memory of that time is only patchy, but if you knew them- ”
“It’s a long time ago, Dalin,” said Kolea, his voice thick. “Tona’s been your mother for as long as it counts.”
“I know that,” said Dalin, “but… what were they like, my mother and father? You knew them. What were they like?”
..
“They died in the war, didn’t they? My parents. They died in the Vervunhive war?” Dalin asked.
“They died in the war,” said Kolea.
Wait.. what? We just saw in Armour of Contempt that Dalin knew about Kolea's relation to him and his sister, and yet here he is acting like he doesnt' know that. On one hand I'm tempted to say 'mess up', and its not a slight on Abnett.. as I recall at this time he was a bit ill and may not have been in his right mind, so mistakes do happen (Bonin dying in Necropolis and 'miraculously' showing up in later books as an example possibly) but its hard to be sure. Its equally possible, for example, Dalin is pretending as much as Kolea that no relation exists. In AoC Dalin expresses disgust at Kolea's standoffishness, and its possible those negative feelings are driving this seeming 'forgetfulness', and thus we have an interesting, passive-aggressive sort of father-son exchange, both knowing the truth but pretending they don't.
This does, of course, assume that we interpret Kolea's actions in AoC (wnating to give the Cap pin but not.) as him not knowing Dalin knows, and still persisting in his 'holding off'. I suppose it could go either way, but Abnett is someone I like so I'm wililng to give him a pass :P



Page 179
“Munition status?”
“Not fantastic, sir,” said Arcuda. “We’re down to about forty-eight per cent of our supply. We’re all right for the time being in terms of standard cells, and we can cook some up if necessary. But we expended solid ammo, charges and tube rockets like you wouldn’t believe yesterday.”
“Running badly low on barrels for the long guns too,” Larkin put in.
..
“So’s sitting here without any support weapons or heavy firepower,” said Rawne, “and that’s where we’ll be if we take another hit like yesterday’s. Rifles and blades are not going to be sufficient disincentive against another storm assault.”
Not like Guns of Tanith then. They still can 'cook' (recharge) batteries in fires it seems, and even long las hotshots seemingly can do that (although Larkin running out is interestng.. probably the batterie sno longer rechargable)
The interesting thing about the passage is.. it implies the Ghosts lasweapons are inferiror, firepower-wise to the support weapons, which we know includes .30 cal (here) but also .50 cal elswhere. Now to be fair. even with .30 cal there is quite a bit of variation in what the 'firepower' is - it could be per-shot firepower (depending on how you define .30 cal... as it could be something like this or this, or it could be something crazy like this or this, and it could also be 'total' firepower - the Rate of fire and/or 'bullet' firepower being greater than the Ghosts's Mk3's. Anyhow, if we figure between 10-30 rounds per second (broad estimate of ROF for some .30 cal weapons. and between 3-6 kj per shot, we could get as little as 30-40 kj per shot (10-15 rps roughly) upwards of 150-180 kj per shot (at the far end, although more likely 4 kj per sec or so per bullet meaning 100-120 kj) as an upper limit on lasweapon firepower (even on max settings.)
Now that said it assumes solid slug (which they usually are) but they use 'stubber' and 'autocannon' interchangably, so its possible the .30s may have some explosive ammo (even a gram would greatly contribute to firepoweR) nevermind other potential differences. It also goes without saying the Ghosts are noted to have lascarbines, which may hint at them having less firepower than full on lasrifles, although thats open to debate as they also get called 'lasrfile', and we know from HLC they can be modified for comparable power. But as an OOM it tends to suggest Ghost lasrifes are high double digit/low triple digit kw range as an order of magnitude estimate.



Page 196
He looked up at Baskevyl and Berenson. “These need to be taken to Elikon M.P. as soon as possible.”
..
“There’s no other way of communicating them,” said Hark. “We can’t upload them.”
“No way of converting them at all?” Berenson asked.
“We may have a few pict-readers, but it would take weeks to scan all of the volumes. The quality would be poor.” Hark sighed. “And our uplink isn’t secure enough to transmit it, certainly not in this quantity. No, gentlemen, this is going to have to get to Elikon the old-fashioned way.”
Field voxes can again transmit more than just audio, they can transmit visual/picture data remotely, which in this case is scanned documents. We'r talking dozens of volumes worth, which is a considerable amount of data. Also note the Ghosts have pict readers for scanning (albeit at poor quality) which can allow such transmissions. Presumably the pict readers may be for scanning in such data, or scanning/transmitting similar infoormation (visual pict captures, for example.)



Page 204
There was a sudden stink of blood and crisped flesh. The Ghosts kept firing. Daur was firing too. Hark raised his pistol and lanced energy beams into the oncoming mass, incinerating some, violently dismembering others.
Lasfire causing thermal damage, and Hark's plasma pistol incinerating or blowing apart people. I'll figure its not cremating and just badly burning. Figure at least single digit MJ.



Page 205
Inside the furnace of the gate chamber, the monstrous destruction was stoked by grenades and ammo packs touching off and exploding. Stumbling, burning figures, ablaze from head to foot, blew apart as grenades in their packs and musette bags caught and detonated.
Ammo and (it seems) explosive blow apart Blood Pact. Indication of destructiveness.



Page 207
Kolea snapped his carbine to full auto. “Ghosts drop!” he yelled.
..
Kolea raked the gunslot with rapid las, blowing chunks and lumps out of the rockcrete sills. The enemy warriors choking the slot screamed and jerked as rounds ripped into them. Some fell out and disappeared instantly, others yowled and held on, clawing at the edges of the firing position, weighed down by the dead and wounded.
“Run! Get some ammo!” Kolea shouted at Pabst. He kept firing, blowing off fingers and hands, dislodging grips. A Blood Pact warrior tried to lunge bodily in through the slit, and Kolea blew him open across the shoulder, dropping his corpse onto the firestep inside the slot.
Kolea has a carbine, and unloads on full auto onto a bunch of Blood pact invadors. Blows off arms and fingers, blows out chunks of the rockcrete wall, and the usual impact effects. Oh and blows open shoulder. At least single digit kj in all cases (blwoing off one finger at least would be 1-2 kj, limb probably several times better.) A couple kj could easily blow out chunks of rockcrete (assuming concrete, or silicon composition) a few inches in diameter as well. Blowing open the shoulder could be as good or better (high single digit kj maybe) depending on size and extent of the wound (Something akin to Varl's fore xample.)
The other notable thing is that his shots blow off fingers, implying at least a few cm wound diameter again. Which is always useful to know for calc purposes.





Page 213
He drew his sidearm. The cell of his plasma pistol had been running low, so he’d taken a back-up from his holdall - a handsome, almost delicate bolt pistol of brushed steel with a saw-grip handle and engraved slide plates. He made a show of unloading and reloading it.
Hark has a backup bolt pistol. Rather interesting that his plasma pistol has no reloads (and does not seem to be of the 'photohydrogen' variety.) It can't be recharged it seems either. Perhaps the cell is not an easily replaced one. Still its interesting that its a non-photohydrogen one.



Page 220
Varl got his hands around Maggs’ weapon and they grappled. Varl’s augmetic strength forced the barrel up. A flurry of rounds fired off into the ceiling.
Again at least implied a burst or full auto mode on lasrifles.



Page 220
“Shots reported,” Kolea growled looking at Ludd and the others down the foresight of his carbine.
Again Kolea has a carbine, and it has foresights (iron sights) rather than a scope.



PAge 223
Dalin turned and walked back to where Meryn stood at the door of the billet.
“Permission to help search for Sergeant Criid, sir,” he said.
“Two fire-teams, out here with me,” Meryn called over his shoulder. “Quick as you can.”
He turned back to face Dalin. “We’ll help you look, adjutant,” he said.
Nice to know Meryn isn't a total bastard. :P




Page 225-226
“Look,” she said, smiling.
The light wasn’t a light anymore. It was a figure, a human figure, radiating light from inside its form. Tona began to cry. Tears raced down her thin cheeks.
“Caff,” she sobbed.
“That’s not Caffran!” Hark cried.
..
It was Ibram Gaunt.
Criid uttered a cry of pain and disbelief. She lurched forwards and beat at Gaunt’s chest with her fists.
“You’re dead! You’re dead!” she wailed, thumping at him. “Where’s Caff? You’re dead! You’re fething dead!”
One of the big parts of the book is that all the Ghosts, in various ways, are experieining.. ghosts.. hallucinations.. visions. It unnerves thema nd drives them crazy in different ways. Its like 'Gaunts Ghosts at the Haunted house' because they blame it on the house. We learn the reason later, but its interesting because of the tension and uncertainty it creates in people and the odd behaviours. it really adds to a sense of... tenseness or uneasiness whihc makes this book stand out.
This particular scene is interesting because its more of that 'foreshadowing' Criid had. In previous books in the sequence, Tona had visions of Gaunt dying and Gaunt had visions of this as well, I think. Its all that foreshaodwing ocming home to roost.
The other strong thing about it is we see Criid and her feelings about Caffran. Whatever gap there was between them, it is gone, and Criid misses Caffran., I find that sad and tragic, given the abrupt nature with which Caffran died.. the two never ever got to make up and that was always sad for me. Still is, really.



Page 234
“We received the confirmation signal from Elikon M.P. twenty minutes ago. Munition supply drop will be made in exactly two hours.”
Time to the airdrop of extra munitions. We learn its a Valkyrie and Destrier. We know it took the Ghosts 6 days (at around 30-40 kph estimated) to reach their destination. whilst it took the Cadogus regiment 3 days (suggesting that a regiment on the move like that, in these conditions, is twice as fast as infantry lol.) we're maybe talking 180-240 km tops. That would give the Destriers a top speed of 90-120 kph, which seems a bit odd. Assuming something like 300 kph it would be 600 km away, and the Cadogus would make 8 kph. IF we figure they're travelling at 10-20 kph off road (for a Russ, which we know they have) it could be 1440-1500 km (which is consistent with Defixio roughly) and would make a 750 kph top speed (more in line with the above.)
If we infer a max speed for the Valk and the destrier travels similiarly fast, we could get 2000 km or so roughly, except that the VAlk would need extended fuel tanks to make it (1000 km is the max of its range for a round trip.) If the Ghosts can make 120-150 km in a day, (fast march?) they could maybe make close to 700-900 km, which would yield a top speed for the Caodgus of 10-12.5 km/hr in the sandstorms, dust/off road conditions, and so on and so forth. The Destrier would make that in 2-2.3 hours which would be around 300-500 kph, and more consistent with an aircraft, I think.



PAge 240
Hark heard hot shots and .50’s rattling away.
.50 cal guns as well as the .30s.



PAge 241
No power in the galaxy could have arrested the Destrier’s death slide. One straining engine blew out, vomiting smoke and sparks into the air. It came on like a steamroller, like a battering ram, crushing and destroying everything in its path in a lethal blizzard of flying rock and splintering metal, eighty tonnes of steel moving at nearly forty kilometres a second.
Destrier gets shot down. First, it masses some eighty tonnes, which means that whatever 'one third' means its not mass, as a Valk is 13 tonnes (1/6th the mass of the Destrier.) Now the odd part. Its stated to be moving at 40 km/s, which if true would be some 64 TJ of KE. Which is Impressive but.. this is in the atmosphere. No hypervelocity impacts at all, and that wouldn't be anything anyone could survive in close proximity, nevermind that the ship could safely make in atmosphere (no VAlkyrie even moves tha tfast.) So its probably an error. Either they meant 40 kph, or more likely, forty metres per second (which is 144 kph.)



Page 253
Mkoll took aim. The range wasn’t good, but he was no slouch. He squeezed the trigger and held it down, pumping half a dozen shots at the half-track. The first few kissed the bodywork and bent the small shield plate fixed to a bracket around the cannon housing. The fifth or sixth bolt hit the gunner in the head and smacked him back out of the vehicle. The half-track jolted and started to move, its track sections squirming up clouds of dust as it turned. Mkoll stood up and raked the driver’s door and windshield with shots. The vehicle lurched, slewed on, and lurched again before coming to a halt.
Mkoll's lasfire can penetrate side armor of a half track at long range, implying maybe quarter inch to half an inch (or omre ) of penetration depending on the benchmark one uses. This is easiyl comparable to high end 7.62MM armor piercing ammo at around 500 m or so, possibly better. Actually quite impressive even in comparison to assualt rifle rounds, much less full power. Bear in mind of course we don't know the settings, so it could also be full power for all we know.


Page 257
They brought hundreds of light field guns and auto-mortars with them, and bombarded the fracturing rockcrete bulwarks with shells and rocket-propelled munitions.
Blood pact light artillery.



Page 258
Either side of him in the overlook, Banda and Nessa matched his rate of fire. Banda had already been forced to switch to a standard pattern las. There were no fresh barrels for the long-form variants left. Their ammo bag was alarmingly empty too. Out in the hallway behind the gunboxes, Ventnor and the other ammo runners had set up braziers to cook some life back into spent cells. It was risky work, and they could never hope to juice enough back into operation in time.
'cooking' the cells is dangerous (they might explode?) but can recharge them (though it takes longer than a few hours in a brazier) Also the Tanith snipers are using regular lasguns. ODd, given we know that they can use regular packs with long-las. Maybe they ruined all the barrels pumping out hotshots.



Page 265
Dalin was down to his last clip. He fired his rifle with one hand..

LAsgun fired in one handed.



Page 265
The bolt from a las-lock exploded Khet Cullwoe’s midriff. He collapsed in a spatter of his own blood, ribs poking from his smouldering abdomen.
Las Lock. At least double digit kj, possibly triple digit kj. Figure 50-100 kj at least (maybe.) If we go by 4th degree burns and a 20-25 cm diameter it would be 125-196 kj. If its 'mrel'y third degree burns it would be between 16 and 25 kj. :P



Page 267
“but Domor, he can read schematics. Apparently, this is essentially a basic cold fusion plant.”
The Imperium knows about cold fusion plants. Heck, the Tanith must have used them (or the Guard) as Domor identifies it and he's nowhere near a techpriest.
They also intend to fill it with water :P


Page 270
Eszrah wiped concentrated moth venom along the edges of the thirty-centimetre silver blade.
Told ya, 30 cm Straight Silver, not ten cm. And its the blade, not the whole knife.



Page 271-272
..hen the thunder became the rumble of turbine power plants.
..
Down below, two Leman Russ battle tanks rolled into view, lamps blazing. Dust wafted from their churning treads. Behind them, a Hydra flak tank, its quartet of long autocannons raised to the sky, clattered to a halt.
Cadogus armour has turbines for powerplants.



Page 274
“It’s a cold fusion plant. It’s pretty much dry. I was going to empty those canteens into it, give it something to start its reaction off.”
..
Baskevyl had brought thirty canteens altogether.
..
He emptied the last one into the kettle. The basin was barely a quarter full.
Figure 1 Litre per canteen that menas it holds a total of 120 kg or so of water.



Page 280-281
They began shouting again as they realised the howling was coming from one of their own. The stricken warrior tore off his helmet and his grotesk. He was shaking, as if experiencing the initial spasms of a seizure. Two of his comrades moved to help him.
He killed them.
His autorifle made a hard, cracking sound in the night air. He kept firing, cutting down two more men who were backing away..
..
A blinding fork of electrical discharge leapt out of the corpse and struck the officer’s pistol with a shower of sparks. The officer was hurled backwards through the air by the massive shock.
..
Then it leapt again, striking the nearest warrior in the face.
The warrior bucked and twitched as the power overloaded his central nervous system. The energy let him go and, before his limp body had time to topple over, the forking blue charge had jumped to another victim, then another, then another. Each one died, his last seconds spent as a spastic, dancing puppet.
...
In the general panic, no one noticed the four, long barrels of the flak tank’s cannon array slowly lowering to the horizontal plane.
The flak tank opened fire with a deafening, prolonged blurt of noise. Its quad autocannons were built for anti-aircraft operations, and delivered streams of explosive shells at an extremely high rate of fire. All four guns unloaded into the rear of the nearest tank from a range of about ten metres.
Despite its heavy plating and monumental chassis strength, the larger tank shredded. Its hull ripped like wet paper, and a billion slivers of torn metal flew out in a lethal blizzard. Less than a second after the tank began to disintegrate, auguring flak shells found its magazine.
Cadogus Psyker contingent causes the above devastation, which gives you an idea of the uses of battlefield psykers. Also Hydra flak tank guns can penetrate rear armor of a russ.



Page 283
Blood Pact gunfire filled the air with ribbons and darts of light. Tokar, standing right beside Rawne, fell backwards, the top of his skull blown off. Folore collapsed on the first landing, almost cut in two by autofire. Pabst was hit so hard he smashed backwards through the landing rail and dropped out of sight.
Lasfire again blowing off part of the skull (single digit kj) sustained autofire cutting a man in half (double digit kj maybe, although over however many bursts we don't know.) Oh and the knockdown again of course.
Also note the curious 'ribbons and darts' implying perhaps they're firing individual shots/bolts, and sustained beams which may expliain the alterantely exploding and slicing effects.



PAge 287-288
The lead vehicles of the Cadogus Fifty-Second mechanised squadron rocked to a halt..
..
An officer jumped down from the tailboard of a Salamander command vehicle and ran forward.
..
“Colonel Bacler, third mech, Cadogus Fifty-Second. "
..
What’s your strength?” Hark asked.
“Forty main, twenty-five light, plus a thousand troops in carriers and sanctioned support. It was the sanctioned support that saved you, you realise?”
..
“What about Hinzerhaus?”
“I’m sorry, sir, I don’t know anything about that. I believe there was a relief section on its way there as of this morning, but I can’t confirm.”
Cadogus 3rd mechanised division/squadron I'm guessing this means at least 6 mechanised companies maybe... or at least 2000-2500 men, possibly upwards of 6000 mechanised, Plus at least forty (probably twice that many) battle tanks. I'm willing to bet the 5 mech are more than the 2500 Ghosts, so we're probably talking 500+ per Regiment and more like 3500+ Mechanised troops.



Page 289
The wall guns made noises like the amplified shrieks of eagles. Each one spat a fat, continuous beam of white searing light. At the far end of the hallway, the beams struck the Blood Pact troopers charging them.
The enemy figures weren’t simply hit, they were destroyed. Bodies vaporised in clouds of atomised tissue. The streaming beams blew clean through the front rank, explosively dismembering them, and atomised the row behind.
..
The wall guns shrieked again. Bright beams flashed the length of the hall and bodies disintegrated in puffs of wet matter. The hallway air misted with blood particles.
The Wall guns in action. They basically equlal; grenade/HE level damage, hundreds of kj if not several MJ per shot, and they punch through two bodies not just one (even if its just blowing the upper torso apart, we're talking half a MJ to a megajoule at least per shot.) And literal vaporization is even crazier as that could be tens or hundreds of MJ easily.
This may say some interesting thigns about Imperial lasgun tech and powerpacks. Eyeball sized power sources create this, contrasted with the size of a powerpack. 50-60 cubic cm vs the 700-900 cubic cm (estimateD) of a typical lasgun powerpack, we're talking a good 15-20x difference in energy capacity if they wer comparable. Heck, even if the Wall guns had 10 or even 20x better capacity, they're still suggesting lasgun packs can carry around half a MJ to a MJ of power apiece.. at LEAST.
Now all that said, we dont know for sure whether the race is advanced compared ot the Imperium, but its debatable: The Imperium recognized the technology and could work it, and the Archaic use of 'wall guns' and laslock type setups argues its not as advanced as Imperial grade tech. Not definite of course, but suggestive.



Page 290
The raiders had no shortage of grenades. They’d even lugged flamers up the sheer north cliff face. They showed no signs of fatigue after their arduous climb. Varl suspected they were too high on bloodlust and glanded stimms.
Glanded stimms. The Blood pact seem to use implanted glands (like the Lostock) or augmetics. Probably explains their durability/fearlessness. Can maket hem crazy.



Page 290-291
Shots were punching into them. On either side of Varl and Maggs, men were falling and dying. Sonorote took a round in the mouth that blew out the back of his head. Fenix lost an arm and an ear to a raking line of tracer shots, and bled out before anyone could get to him. Ezlan was thrown backwards by an impact to the belly. When Gunsfeld reached his side to help him, he found that Ezlan had a live rocket grenade sticking out of his stomach wall. Ezlan was wailing in pain.
More killing of Ghosts. HEadsploded, but we dont know the kind of round (although with hard and lasweapon comparisons it probably doesn't matter much) The losing an arm was a tracer though, implying solid rounds.
Also a Ghost survives a rocket propelled grenade to the chest, implying the armour took the brunt of it. Given that an RPG 7 can weigh several kg and travel at a good 70-100 m/s we're talking considerable momentum, even at low velocities. It does break through, but the rocket doesn't penetrate all the way through either, and rockets tend to be rather pointy (esp frag ones. see here)



Page 292
There was a shriek like an eagle’s call. A bright, columnated beam of energy burned down the hallway past him and reduced two Blood Pact raiders to clouds of swirling organic debris. Several more beams followed it, bursting enemy soldiers like ripe ploins stuffed with det-tape.
Wall Guns again, and again implying the 'grenade like' destructive effects, pulverizing multiple bodies with a single discharge.



Page 293
Tanks and armoured vehicles flashed past as they rode down the centre of the advancing lines of Bacler’s battalion
Bacler, the commander of the force that rescued Hark, has a battalion as his mechanised squad.



Page 295-297
Heavy cages with thick, iron bars sat on the trailers towed by the ominous black tractors. Dark, spavined shapes lurked behind the bars, chained hand and foot, lashed to bare metal frames in the centre of each cage. Some of the cages were studded with spikes and barbs that pointed inwards. Despite the stink of exhaust wafting from the tractors, Hark could smell the pain. Blood, sweat, faeces, gangrene and the wretched tang of static filled the night air.
..
Each cage was attended by dark, silent figures: Special Attachment commissars, servitors, armed guards in black uniforms with curiously full helmets, their visors down, and men and women in dark robes armed with handling poles and electric prods. Pale, grim faces and closed visors followed him as he toiled along the line.
..
Hark came to a halt. He realised there were tears running down his face. The sadness that had eaten away at him for years had finally broken out, cracking the frozen surface of his emotional reserve. He looked up at the cage in front of him. The inward turned spikes were matted with dried blood.
..
The thing inside the cage stirred. It was just a sack of meat, rotting and sagging. Heavy shackles pinned its wasted limbs to the cage frame. Hark could see that it had undergone extensive surgery. Sutured scars criss-crossed its dirty scalp and augmetic devices had been implanted in its neck, chest and throat. Its ears had been clipped off with shears and its eyes had been sewn shut. It slumped naked in a pool of its own waste. Open, weeping sores covered the flesh of its torso.
..
I felt you close. All of you. My friends. My old friends. I tried to reach you.
“I’m afraid you hurt us. We didn’t understand.”
I’m sorry, Hark. I just wanted to help you. Help you to survive.
..
I just wanted you to hear me. I just wanted to help you. You were so far away, in such danger, but I could feel you. I tried to reach you-
..
The thing inside the cage shuddered. It gurgled. Slime dripped from the slit that had once been its mouth. It was laughing.
It’s not a precise art, this thing I do. Not cut and dried, neat and tidy, like smeltery work or soldiering. I miss both of my old professions. What I do is not precise, Hark. You were so far away, I could only reach you through your memories.
..
I only wanted you to help me. Help me. Please, Hark, help me. I can’t stand this anymore.
..
“Be at peace,” he said.
The wretched thing that had once been called Agun Soric looked up at him with sewn-up eyes through the bars of the cage.
Hark fired.
Man, talk about a twist huh? We get a resolution of so many plot points. Many of the dreams, the 'ghosts/visions' that the Ghosts have seen in this book were their memories used by Soric as a means of communication. We can likely also say Criid's foresight of Gaunt's apparent death, Hark's problems the past few years, perhaps even the aid Caffran gave to DAlin (or vice versa) - much of the mysterious stuff could be attributed to Soric in one way or another.
And yet... we don't really know that everything was definitely Soric. Some maybe, but could he reach across light years to Gereon, and influence the team's dreams there? Or is it more, like Gaunt said - could they be blessed by the Saint and thus special? Its not definite. Soric's involvement casts some uncertainty on it,b ut one can never be sure of these things, which is good really.
Not only that it says something about Soric's abilities. He must be very powerful, as despite being repressed (they would without a doubt repress the sanctionites or limit them somehow, even for their own safety if not others) Soric can reach out and warn/help his friends in various ways.
On a more personal/story level... Hark is brought face to face with the consequences of his 'Duty' as a commissar. Its a visceral, horrible reminder that his actions can have horrible consequences Its rather interesting in light of him castigating Ludd for 'making friends' earlier.. a bit of an irony really, because Hark is acting very un-Commissarial here. Having been plagued by dreams through Soric, perhaps even by guilt of his actions as he is driven to tears by what has been inflicted on Soric, what state he lives in.. and yet still being loyal to the Ghosts and his friends and wanting to help. I thnk its a moment of Revelation for Hark, maybe one where he can see things from Gaunt's perspective. Most importantly, its a chance to make amends for someone who has done so much for his regiment (even as a slave)... Because as the title says, as many Ghost say.. 'only in Death does duty end'
Its another strong, yet sad way to end a book, and a sequence, and I think it ties things up nicely. Not as triumphant or positive as the last few books perhaps, but its not totally bleak either. Very bittersweet.



Page 301
Twenty items of armour, with troop support in the van, and air cover from a string of Vulture gunships, blasted into the rear of the Blood Pact host besieging the house and scattered it in a battle that lasted fifty-eight minutes.
Cadogus relief force. 20 armour units in 5 mechanised companies. That means at least 60 tanks. Also gunships, which seem organic. Although whether attached from the Navy or part of the tithe we don't know. Probably doesnt matter as much as the fact they HAVE organic air support.


Page 302
“Forty-seven per cent dead. Eighteen per cent wounded,” Rawne said.
Ghost losses. Out of 2500 that means nearly 1200 died, and 450 wounded. 875 survived relatively unharmed. Nearly half the regiment killed in that single action A little over thirteen hundred survive, implied. The worst losses they've sustained. Van Voytz is in Gaunt's shit list for this, because of that obsession with 'his' Ghosts, and the fact he knows Van Voytz send him out there deliberately despite the poor situation. To be fair as we discussed before the entire invasion force was at a disadvantage and its unliekly Van Voytz really had a choice, but Gaunt takes such things personally when it comes to the losses of his men, and even friendship is no barrier to his wrath (Dercius and Sturm can attest, although one could hardly call the latter a friend lol.)
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We head into the final stretch with the last two books of the 'main' Ghosts arc, then some subsidariy books. We start a new cycle today with 'Blood Pact'.

The novel starts some time after the events of Only in Death, and it starts out different from the others in the sense the Ghosts have been on prolonged Garrison duty for some time. And Garrison duty is doing more to destroy them as a regiment than anything the Archenemy ever threw at them. One of the noticable things about this book is that in many ways it borrows on ideas of previous works - we get a throwback to the Ghosts of First and Only (literally in some cases, as Gaunt's friend Blenner makes an appearance, but also in the sense we get some of the Ghosts returning to their criminal ways to pass the time.) We get some of other books like Traitor general (only in reverse, this time, although we get more of the 'exploration of the Archenemy as an actual civilization' rather than just a bunch of bad guys to shoot at.) There is also a lingering aftermath of the previous arc and its bleakness- the story starts out rather sad and depressing, reflecting the depleted state (physically and spiritually) of the Ghosts. There is also that continuing sense of 'fading away' as familiar faces die out and get replaced. And , like with all previous books, we get subplot arcs, we get new faces to replace the old (some more character development of the Belladon especially.) and we get the same set up for the current sequence that we've had. And unlike the last arc, the new arc holds more promise for progressing events in the Crusade (not unlike with the 'Saint' Arc. Indeed this cycle's title is 'The Victory') which is good.

Another minor aspect of this arc that I found interesting is that so far we're getting more character development of Gaunt baesd on his past (recent and distant) - we learn more about his relationship to Slaydo (and Macaroth) and a bit more of how the Crusade has changed from when Gaunt was young. Recent 'developments' will have to wait til Salvation's Reach, however. Anyhow, the malaise ends when the Ghots discover that the Blood Pact have sent a kill team to kill an Archenemy turncoat (a mirroring of events from Traitor General), whose secrets may hold the key to winning the entire Crusade. The Ghosts fight against themselves and their current situation as well as against their enemy to save the turncoat and learn what he has to offer.


Overall Blood pact is perhaps my shortest analysis yet, as much of it is basically character development and buildup (not a bad thing, just means less tech stuff lol) and setting the scene for Salvation's REach and the forthcoming Warmaster.

Bloodpact will be covered in two (short) updates all at once. Part 1 first.

Page 23
“It’s the passage of time,” said Blenner. “That’s what I’m saying. You came back from Gereon in ’76, Ibram. That’s knocking on five years ago. Face facts. We’re all getting old.”
Gaunt is getting up in years. One of the aspects of this particular book seems to be that 'everyone is getting old' Zweil and Dorden as well as Gaunt himself are picked out for this so far. In book time Gaunt has been in the war since he was a boy, and with the ghosts for over twelve years. Most of the Tanitha re probably at middle age or older, or at least their thirties (Caffran was one of the youngest and he'd have been thirty or so before dying.) IT really can be a shock to realize that in-universe that much time has passed.

Page 34
“Oh, I know how you cover yourself,” said the commissar. “The oh-so-expensive lawyers you keep on retainer throw out any raid as an illegal search, and you keep your considerable cash supplies locked up in a safe, knowing that we can only confiscate monies in game circulation. So we take a few hundred off your tables, stick you with a nuisance fine for unlicensed gaming, and go away with our tails between our legs.”
Legal aid can help against hte Commissariat, if you're running an illegal gambling establishment.



Page 38
They’d given him skin-grafts, significant skin-grafts, and somehow patched his brutalised organs back together. It was the organ damage that had come closest to ending him in the weeks after his rescue from the hands of the Archenemy torturers, and it had come fething close half a dozen times.
The eyes, oddly, were the most superficial injuries. Augmetics could be easily fitted into emptied sockets. General Van Voytz, perhaps nagged by guilt, had authorised particularly sophisticated implants of ceramic and stainless steel. In terms of performance, they were better than Gaunt’s original eyes. He had greater range and depth perception, and appreciably enhanced cold-light and latent-heat vision. And they sat in his face well enough. They looked like… eyes. A little like the porcelain eyes of an expensive doll, he often thought when he saw them in a mirror, but at least they were alive, not dull like a doll’s. When you caught them right, there was a flash of green fire in them.
It was the eyes, though, that bothered him most, more than the months of itching grafts, and more than the regime of drugs and procedures to heal his sutured innards.
Gaunt's therapy and recovery from his torture at the hands of Blood PAct in Only in Death, and his new augmetic eyes and its properties. Represent high-end augmetics.



Page 40
Gaunt sighed. There were at least three hundred Ghosts off-base on passes at any one time. That meant drinking, betting, whoring, and a list of other, less savoury activities. One of the regiment’s commissars was getting dragged up to the hive every couple of days.
We’re getting fat, Gaunt thought. We’re getting fat and idle, and our patience is wearing thin, but it’s the thin that’s going to cause the worst trouble.
The Ghosts current duty for the past two years.



Page 45
Gaunt found a seat near the back, and listened. When Chiria, halting and clumsy, had done, Costin got up and embarked on an over-hasty run at one of the Odes of Sarpedon.
Oh god Sarpedon!



Page 47
“Absolutely, categorically, inexcusably out of line. He needs to be certified fit, and he knows it. It’s just pure bloody-mindedness, is what it is. He has to be made to follow the rules down to the letter of the - Wait a minute. It’s me, isn’t it?”
“It is,” said Gaunt.
“Hmm,” said Zweil. “That was very sly of you.”
Zweil isn't going to get his medical exam. One of the things I've often loved about the Ghosts series, at lest the latter novels, is the banter, and I haven't commented on it. Abnett's set up a great cast and their interactions are often fascinating. Zweil is a character, as is Varl and Kolea, Maggs and Bonin, any number of others. Its one part of the series that adds charm to it and gives it a Cain-esque quality. EVen Gaunt and Hark get in on it in differen tways. Its a nice counter balance to the bleakness and the horror and it keeps things balanced.


Page 63
Edur looked up from the closed dossier on the desk in front of him and held Gaunt’s gaze. Edur was a few years younger than Gaunt and a few centimetres shorter, and he was good-looking in a clean-cut but bloodless way, like a classical statue. His skin was regally black, and he reminded Gaunt of the Vitrians he’d served alongside.
Man, another guy slightly shorter than Gaunt. In the Grim Darkness of the future, everyone is a Giant.



Page 67
When the sanctioned torturers, their sackcloth hoods tucked into their belts for the time being, led the prisoner into the cell, caged phosphor lights flickered on, and bathed the cell in a sick, green glare. The torturers, burly men with bitter faces, strapped the prisoner onto the single cage chair screwed to the deck in the centre of the cell floor.
The commissariat has their own sanctioned torturuers. Everything in the Imperium has to be sanctioned.



PAge 68-69
“He has told us that his name is Mabbon Etogaur,” said Edur.
..
“Mabbon may be his name, though I doubt it’s his given one. It’s probably a saint name he adopted when he took his pact.”
“A saint name?” asked Edur.
“They have saints too, Edur,” replied Gaunt. He looked at the prisoner again. “Etogaur isn’t a name. It’s his rank. He gave you his name and rank. An etogaur is roughly the equivalent of a general.”
Mabbon Etogaur, from Traitor General. We learn some more about the Blood PAct and Chaos side of things. That seems to be the focus of this arc, as we learn what the ARchenemy forces call their empire (Consanguinitiy, and the Sanguinary Worlds.) and their rituals, beliefs and such. In this case they have saints of their own.



Page 70
“An awful lot of Blood Pact start out as Imperial Guard or PDF. Most of the time, it’s a ‘join us or die’ dynamic, but sometimes the choice is rather more personal. Like all converts, willing or not, they can often be the most radical, the most zealous. This man may have been Imperial once. "
..
“The Blood Pact is a warrior cadre sworn to the personal service of the Archon. Magister Sek, called by some the Anarch, is Archon Gaur’s foremost lieutenant. It’s a king and prince dynamic, a father and son thing. Sek is ambitious, and envies the Gaur’s Blood Pact shamelessly. When I was on Gereon, we heard that Sek’s agents had set out to build a Blood Pact of their own, the Sons of Sek. Just as the Blood Pact have stolen bodies from the Imperial Guard over the years, so the Sons have begun to pilfer from the Pact. Officers, particularly, men with experience to help them shape the Sons quickly and robustly.
More of the Blood Pact andthe Sons of Sek.



Page 74
“The Imperium wastes very little time capturing or interrogating soldiers of the Archenemy. Their corruption is considered too pernicious. No intelligence obtained from them can be considered reliable, and there is always the risk of contamination to the interrogators. You should have been executed before now, not preserved in detention.”
Prisoner and interrogations are rare in the Imperium, given the potential of corruption and taint therein. Same reason why, as we've learned, they try not to eavesdrop or break their comms for similar reason. Makes a very effective psychological warfare technique too.



Page 80-81
Suddenly she was a grown woman, an officer, with responsibilities, and a pretty comfortable billet, and the best part often years’ back-pay stagnating in her service account. There was nothing to do except wait and drill, and prep, and sit around and find something to spend your pay on. There was no immediate sign of active deployment in the offing.
Any line veteran can tell you that adjusting to retired life is a hard slog, like kicking a stimm habit. Your body is too used to living on an adrenaline high for months at a time. You grow detached. You get jumpy, antsy, restless. You suffer migraines, dizziness, anxiety. Your sleep suffers. Your hands sweat. If you’re really unlucky, you get phobic or develop anti-social habits. You experience memory flashes cued by something innocent, like the sound of shouting or the smell of a bonfire, and wind up on a medicae scrip taking lithium or some anti-stress pharm cocktail, or in the cage on a formal statement.
Tona Criid and her attempts at adapting ot 'retirement' or Garrison rotation. The back pay is interesting and that they're paid, but the real thing is the effects of constant war on her (And Guardsmen in general.) Again its a different depcition than the 'Noble latern jawed, steely eyed Hero of the Imperium killing the mutant, alien and heretic' that the propoganda no doubt entials (or like a Cain novel for that matter.) One of the key themes in the Ghosts series is that war always has a cost of some kind. It might be physical, mental, or some combinatio nof both . Whehte rits loss of life, loss of sanity... there is still a cost.



Page 84
The materiel was all Guard issue, packed in khaki munition boxes that Valdyke had brought in and unloaded long before dawn. There were assorted lasguns, autorifles, pistols, a few heavier pieces and a fair quantity of ammunition.
..
“Beggars can’t be choosers, Eyl Damogaur,” he said. “It’s old. Surplus, most of it. Sourced through illegal markets and decommission plants.” He tilted his head back and held the weapon up to examine it better by the light of the naphtha flares. His teeth were pink with blood.
Decomissioned Guard issue weapons. Gotta make a profit somehow.



Page 85-86
Samus was the name of his patron spirit, a particularly noisy thing that had gradually taken up residence in Bezov’s soul. Since then, Bezov had insisted on being known by his spirit name, and the person that Eyl had known had faded behind milk-dull eyes, palsied tics and animal sounds.
Eyl rejoiced that his comrade had been singled out for such a blessing by the High Powers. He took his silver mask. He had missed its cold weight.
Samus makes a reappearance since the time of the Horus Heresy novels. Some Blood Pact are thus possessed and this is considered a blessing. One of the interesting aspects of this is that the Archenemy (as they are termed) of the Consanguinaty seems to co-exist in a symbiotic/parasitic relationship with the warp, which is an interesting take on the whole 'Chaos isn't Evil' theme evinced in Traitor General and Armour of Contempt, and again echoes alot of the earlier ideas on the nature of Chaos and the Chaos forces in 40K.



Page 86
“Six didn’t make it,” replied Eyl quietly.
“God’s corpse!”
..
“That leaves thirty-four. We can do the job with thirty-four.”
“Of course. But six. Six!”
“They were the tithe,” Eyl told his old friend. “They were the blood-price to get us into the enemy’s heart unseen.”
“There’s truth in that. When do we move?”
Another point of the Blood Pact. They rely greatly on sorcery and magic to achieve their goals. Warp sorcery to infiltrate successfully and undetected, warp sorcery whilst on the planet, etc. It carries certain advantages, obviously, as they can improvise and create effective abilities on the fly to meet certain problems, or to ovecome certain shortcomings. There are of course, prices, because Chaos never does anything free.



Page 87
“The truth is making my head hurt. Prognostication is tiresome. Don’t make me do it.”
..
"This is your purpose. This is why the gore mages of our Consanguinity made you. This is why they bred you and witched you.”
The psyker/sorceress is also the blood relation (sister?) of the guy leading the Blood Pact Kill Team, which again is another of those 'humanising' aspects. They have families, relations, and can have feelings for them, although their views can be skewed or even jarring (the casual acceptance of sacrifice and ritual, the indifference to death or hurting even their own fmaily members if it comes to their duty and objectives, etc.)
Also, we have 'gore mages' which I am so hoping aren't KHORNATE SORCERERS. We know how that enrages people. Also, they have breeding programs to create (And enhance) psykers. Again using the warp as a useful tool./



Page 87
Eyl cried out, thinking that she was going to jump, and moved to block her as fast as his enhanced metabolism could carry him.
Blood pact officer has an enhanced metabolism. enhanced how, we dont know (Yet).


Page 88
“I told you it would snow,” she said.
“And I believed you,” he replied, though he was not sure that she hadn’t made it snow.
Apparently the Blood Pact psyker is a weather worker.



Page 90
“Late last night, the ordos got wind of what was happening here. They’re insisting we hand Prisoner B over to them. Section is protesting our jurisdictional claim to hold and interrogate the prisoner, but the Inquisition is getting rather heavy-handed about it.”
..
“They’re talking about a legal challenge to the Commissariat’s authority, and a ground-up investigation by the Ordo Hereticus. Mercure is trying to head them off. He’s arguing that this is entirely within our remit.”
Jurisidictional pissing contests betwene various parts of the Imperial adepta. Yet again. Politics uber alles.



Page 91
Mercure dealt with Crusade business at sector level, and kept the company of system governors, lord generals, and the Warmaster. There was very little room for advancement left to him within the Commissariat.
Implying again that the Sabbat Worlds region is roughly sector-scale.



Page 92-93
It occurred to Gaunt that he’d seen eyes like that before. He’d seen them in his own face. The inquisitor’s eyes were extravagantly machined replicas, and it wasn’t just the eyes. The aesthetics of his face, the lines of the jaw and cheek and nose, were all too noble, too magnificently handsome to be true. At some point, the inquisitor had had his entire face rebuilt by the Imperium’s finest augmeticists.
..
He smiled, but the smile was not warm. It was a perfect facsimile of a smile, executed by hundreds of synthi-muscle tensors and subcutaneous micro-motors. He fixed Mercure with his augmetic stare.
Augmetic reconstructive surgery. Very precise augmetics.



Page 100-101
The blood wolf was moving too fast for any human eye to properly follow it. The warp-wash that surrounded it distorted reality, making time run out of step, and the snow hesitate in mid-air. It flew in through the gatehouse, exploding both barrier beams like tinder. It made a keening noise like the bogies of a runaway train drawing sparks from steel rails. The keening caused the windows, even those specially strengthened to resist weapons fire, to shatter explosively. These blizzards of toughened glass, which moved far faster than the blizzards of snow in the gardens outside, shredded all the troopers caught in their blast zones. Two more guards were decapitated beside the inner barrier, and another by the door. Another, who was unfortunate enough to be standing directly in the blood wolfs path, disintegrated on impact in a spray of gore like a jar of fruit conserve hit by a shotgun round.
A blood wolf is like a missile. You aim it and you fire. In the absence of the explosives that Valdyke had promised to procure, Eyl had been obliged to get his witch to conjure a blood wolf as the focus of the raid.
A sacrifice had therefore been required. Every single man in the philia had volunteered for the combat-honour.
..
Eyl didn’t understand the process. He generally left such matters to the gore mages, but he understood enough to know that the conjurations that produced a blood wolf were not all that different from the conjurations that wove wirewolves, which were commonly used to police and protect the worlds of the Consanguinity. Those rites put a daemon-spirit into a conductor-body of metal, allowing it to walk abroad. The blood wolf rites put a daemon-spirit into a man’s body.
It was a less precise art. Teams of philia metallurgists and wiresmiths might take months or even years to properly machine the metal chassis of a wirewolf to perfection, inscribing it with the most precise runes and sigils, forging it just-so, so that it could best house the spirit it was designed to capture and harness.
Even with a sharp rite knife, a human body could not be modified so cleanly, especially not at short notice. As a vessel for the burning light of the High Powers, flesh was far too perishable compared to metal, even when the flesh was as devoted as Shorb’s. A wirewolf might last forty or perhaps even fifty minutes before burning out. Eyl had never seen a blood wolf last longer than sixteen.
The blood wolf was a one-use weapon, a flash-bang. It would burn Eyl’s beloved Shorb out and leave him nothing more than charred meat. The trick with a weapon like a blood wolf was to use it fast, and to use it well.
The trick was to use it for maximum effect.
Bloodwolf. Organic version of a wirewolf. ITs interesting because both are just a form of possession or a sort of daemonhost, but not quite those things, either. FAr more temporary (as they burn out the sacrifice.) Powers are impressive, one figures Wirewolves (and Bloodwolves) are similar in capability, just different in efficiency and endurance.
The interesting thing is again how they use the warp and chaos creatures and tools as part of their fighting style and such, and also the way they ignore losses and such again (hey you need to sacrifice? Good to know ya!)



Page 101
Eyl lifted his autorifle, and evacuated the Guardsman’s braincase in a brief, but considerable, pink shower.
Autorifle burst headsplosion. Lasrifles can do it with single bolts :P



Page 101
Imrie, brandishing a heavy autorifle that was older than all the men of the philia put together, shot one of their few rifle grenades up through the slot of the guard tower behind the gate.
Heavy autorifle and rifle grenades.



Page 101-102
Gnesh moved past Eyl, striding with insouciant ease like a man on a recreational stroll. He was the biggest man in the philia, tail and broad-backed, with a lumberhand’s shoulders, and a neck as wide as the skull that sat on it. He had taken the bipod off a heavy lasgun, and cinched the weapon over his right shoulder on a long strap so that he could shoot it from the hip. The chest-pumping pop of each discharge threw a javelin of light out through the smoke and the snow. Gnesh casually aimed at the administration wing. His shots punched a series of deep holes along the facing wall until they found the entrance and wrought catastrophic damage on the three Imperials. Then he aimed a couple more shots into the architrave, and collapsed the entrance onto their smouldering bodies.
Blood Pact Bragg, hefting a 'heavy lasgun', which seems to be a bipod version of a heavy stubber or other support weapon. Which seems to be powerful, have a great deal of penetration. You have to wonder why they're not more common in the Guard, as their capabilities should be similar to projectiles, but much easier logistics. Go figure.
Then again maybe its a modified lasgun with a hotshot pack or hellgun or whatever., :P



Page 103
He lifted his carbine and fired a burst on auto. The commissar jerked backwards, as if he’d been snatched off his feet by a sharp yank on a rope. He bounced off the wall behind him, and landed on his face.
Full auto barrage with trmeendous knockback. If we figure more than 70-80 kg*m/s, and 1500 m/s gas velocity.55-60 kilojoules of KE for the burst, and a 45-50 gram vaporization 100-120 kj for the burst maybe if vaporization is factored.



Page 105
Edur had a squad of S Company storm-troopers with him, and a look of true and solemn concern in his dark, handsome eyes.
Commisarriat has access ot storm troopers. Given their ties to the Munitorum, this is hardly surprising. They may even e the standard Commisariat troopers for all we know.



Page 108
The carbine in Kaylb Sirdar’s hands retched twice and spat ugly blades of red light. They punched into the Imperial trooper coming up the staircase towards him, hurling him backwards with a strangled cry.
Two round burst knockdown. again double if not triple digit kj probably,



Page 108
He dragged up his left sleeve and consulted the blood map that the witch had put in his forearm. She’d given one to both sirdars and to Eyl too, a little schematic plan of the target building mapped from her divination, and formed by raised veins and swollen capillaries under the skin. As the element advanced through the area, the blood map on the patch of skin moved with them. Kaylb ran his filthy fingertips over the bumps and ridges.
Blood pact uses blood mapping. AGain uses of sorcery to enhance their performance.



Page 111
Kaylb fired between the bars of the cage. The two shots hit the Varshide in the chest, and threw him against the back wall of the cage.
..
..mingled with the acrid reek of scorched flesh and cooked blood.
More two round lasfire knockdown.



Page 112
Except he was no longer holding his carbine. Rawne still had it in his hand.
..
The las-bolt hit Kaylb Sirdar in the forehead, and hammered him back into the bay wall. The grotesk split in half, and the two pieces flew off his face and bounced away across the deck in opposite directions.
The sirdar slid down the wall, and finished up, dead, in a sitting position, his head tilted to one side. He had left a long streak of blood down the wall above him.
Las carbine shot. Again the knockback effect, but it also severs the Grotesque and apparently exits the back of his head. Figure at least a kilojoule or two for the Groqesque maybe (depending on dimensions and thickness) and perhaps another few kj to punch through the head (at least) Mid to high single digit kj maybe?



Page 115
The first of them raised his rifle and pinked off a shot that hit the fleeing torturer in the spine,
..
..the torturer tried to drag himself forward. His legs were useless.
..
A las-round took the top of his head off.
One las round severs his spine, and the other blows off the top of his head. Single digit kj for both at least. A few kj at least to damage lower spinal column and render legs useless, maybe?



PAge 115
Gaunt swung out from behind the door and fired his bolt pistol. The shot hit the first of the Pacted raiders square in the sternum, and exploded his torso. Blood and meat suddenly decorated a considerable section of the corridor’s white-tiled surfaces.
Bolt pistol torso-splosion.



Page 115
Gaunt ducked back behind the tank cell door as the auto fire ripped past. He felt it spank hard against the other side of the hefty door, driving it back against his body.
..
More wild shots whacked against the door shielding him. The impacts were beginning to drive the door into him with enough force to bruise his shoulder and arm.
Again lasfire having considerable impact.


Page 116
Gaunt ejected his smoking bolt pistol’s clip. It was spent. Ten rounds. He was only carrying three spares in the pouches of his uniform belt.
Capacity of Gaunt's bolt pistol


Page 120
The enemy leader’s face and chest were scorched and burned, and his gloved hands were torn and bloody, but he was far from dead. Gaunt’s bolt-round, intended as a hasty body-shot, had struck the carbine in Eyl’s hands and blown it up in his face. The force of the detonation had tossed him backwards into his men, but the round had not killed him.
Las carbine blows up when guant's bolt round hits. Causes severe burns along upper body (arms and face and chest) and some lacerations, but that's it. If we figure 2nd to 3rd degree at least (30-50 J per sq cm) and over the upper torso (5000 sq cm or thereabouts), and allowing for an omnidirectional blast we get at least 300-500 kj in the pack. We dont know how many shots had been used up rpior to this,b ut evne assuming a full powerpack and 60 shots, thats a good 6-9 kj per shot. IF we figure 125 j per sq cm for clothing and such it would be closer to 625 kj per side, which is 1.25 MJ total and some 21 kj per shot. Of course most of these probably represent very severe injuries (esp at the 3rd degree or worse) even with the clothing, but The Blood PAct officer is hardly a normal person by all accounts (enhanced metabolism and all that). Heck Chaos tainted troops as a rule tend not to be 'normal' when it comes to such resilience - how often in the Ghost sseris have we had examples of this with the baselines cultists, nevermind the Pact themselves?


Page 121
The execution chamber hatch slammed shut in his face, putting ten centimetres of steel between him and the man in the silver grotesk. Their entire battle had lasted less than thirty seconds.
Thickness of blast door/shield door in prison complex.



Page 132-133
Peacetime had been remarkably revealing about the Tanith character. Kilo for kilo, they were the best infantry troops Hark had ever seen or had the pleasure of serving with. In the field, they had an abundance of skills and an abundance of courage, and they were, in the strangest way, extraordinarily principled. They took pride in a sort of moral code that entirely forgave any lapses in discipline of conduct. They flourished in adversity.
They were not a garrison force. They were not a regiment you could put into reserve or turnaround, and expect them to sit tight and behave themselves in a safe little barracks compound. They would not spend their time polishing their buttons and practising their parade drill and reading their primers. Well, they would, but it wouldn’t be enough. They would get crazy.
The Tanith (and this quality had spread to the non-Tanith in the First) were a wild force. In the field, you didn’t notice their rough edges. Retire them to Balhaut for a year or two, and they were like caged animals. They wanted to get out, and if they couldn’t get out, they wanted to bite the hand off the next idiot who tried to feed them.
The Bremenen were a garrison force. There was nothing wrong with them; they were a decent, unexceptional, well-drilled infantry outfit. To them, two years turnaround on Balhaut was a sweet deal, the posting they’d been hoping for their entire service. For the Tanith, it was a prison sentence.
I think this says something about the character and diversity of Guard regiments in the Imperium, and the problems you can face. Much like with the Catachans, the Ghosts are skilled and disciplined in their own fashion, but it also breeds a sort of independence that makes them ill suited to the more 'generalist' approach the Guard sometimes inflicts. They're poor at siege warfare and attrition. They're poor at garrison duty. They're an offensive force, a stealth and infiltration and commando and general ninja force. By Guard standards they are specialists and elites, whistl the more conventional, disciplined (but unimaginative) regiments are the ones who do the slogging, or the garrisoning, or holding the trenches. The Guard is made up of those sorts of troops - and more.. and its their strength and their weakness.



PAge 138
“However optimistically you want to place the Crusade front line on the star-maps,” Mkoll said, “Balhaut is over a sector’s distance from the fight zone. If an enemy counter-offensive had pushed through, we’d have heard about it months ago.”
“But a long, deep-warp jump? A bounding strike into our heartland?”
“Doesn’t feel like that Gol,” said Mkoll.
Comment about the distance from the warzone to Balhaut.. that implies some several hundred light years away, suggesting either that balhaut is ont he edges (and the Crusade on the other edge or somewhere thereabouts) or that the Sabbat Worlds region is actually bigger than a normal Imperial sector (either because its an unusual region, or its comprised of multiple sectors.)
Despite that its noted that its possible for the Archenemy to conduct a 'long, deep warp jump' and avoid being detected over hundreds of light years. Months ago implies a speed of a couple hundred to a couple thousand c, probably.




Page 150
She felt something close around her pumping frantic heart, and grip it, like a ghostly fist. It began to squeeze, constricting the muscles. She knew that unless she got up and started running, that unless she ran and ran until she was out of its reach, it would keep squeezing until her heart burst like a blister.
Tona Criid outruns Consanguinity psyker's 'Jedi force choke' on a heart.



Page 151
“The Blood Pact have infiltrated an ostensibly secure crown world,” said Gaunt.
Balhaut called a 'crown world' which implies some signifciance.



Page 154
"We need to wait for another half an hour to see how the coagulant healing meshes take."
Some sort of healing bandage I gather.



Page 154
Gaunt sipped his caffeine. It seemed awful. The truth was, it was simply battlefield quality. Maggs had thrown it together according to trench conditions. Gaunt realised that he’d been spoiled by too many months of fancy quality caffeine. This, this dark murk that Maggs had concocted, was caffeine like the Guard drank it, the bitter taste of the zone and the dug-out.
Guard issue coffee.



PAge 164
. A long time ago, in what was almost literally another life, Imrie had been, like Karhunan, a Throne soldier. He was a convert, an incomer. The sept word was elterdwelt, which meant “other life” or, more loosely, “traded item”. He had sloughed off most of his other life, shed it gladly like a snake sheds an old, tight skin, but some parts of it had remained stubborn. Damogaur Eyl, no elterdwelt but rather Consanguinity-born, cherished such old traits in the men of his philia.
A bit on Blood Pact, and by extension, Consanguinity culture and practice.
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Page 166
He double-blinked and switched his focal field to high-gain, low light. Streetlamps or no street-lamps, the way ahead lit up for him.
Gaunts super-Commissair infravision in action.



Page 168
he chronic tension of life in a warzone bent a person’s biology out of shape, and left it fit for nothing else. It built shortcut response pathways, and bred bad habits. It altered hormone values and metabolic functions to tolerate prolonged and elevated stress. It modified you to get you through, whatever it took, and then left the modifications in you when you returned to what was laughingly referred to as normal life. It left them with corrosive physiological and psychological damage that took a thousand times longer to erase than it had taken to inflict.
The worst part, as she was now discovering, wasn’t coping with the post-combat fall out; it was getting your old, bad self, your combat self, switched back on without warning. She’d gone from nothing to super-luminal in a second. The toxic flood of hormones and responses had left her almost stupefied. There was a sheen of sweat on her skin, and she knew that she stank of fear. Her mind was numb except for a little tiny nugget at the heart of it, like the dense metal heart of a neutron star that was screaming with radioactive rage.
Criid reflects on the physical and mental adaptions one makes to a life of war. Its another one of those 'interesting yet significant' things, because it reflects what sets a soldier apart from a civilian, even in the Grim Darkness of the Future. Its what makes it hard for soldiers, especially veterans like the Ghosts, to simply 'stop' being soldiers, to fit back in to a normal, non military life and society. That seems to be one of the things this book is meant to convey, with the way others (like Rawne and co) act, with how Tona acts, etc.
And I suspect its is, in Abnett's own clever way, the way he conveys the idea that the Guard life can be very damaging in the long term, physically, mentally. Gereon, Tona suspects, may have pushed her even further than is usual for a Guardsmen, and it again indicates what sorts of sacrifices the 'merely human' make to be defenders of humanity, even the ones who don't get to be genetically engineered superhumans.



Page 173
“You know what’s to blame, don’t you?” Maggs said.
“Tell me,” said Gaunt.
“War,” said Maggs. “It feths up your head. It feths it up in terrible ways. And the longer you’re exposed to it, the worse it’ll get.”
“I hear that,” said Criid as she walked off to take watch.
From the mouth of Maggs....



PAge 176
Eyl had taken off his grotesk. He relished the pain in his hands, chest and face where the carbine had been exploded in his grasp and left him gashed and burned. The injuries reminded him he was alive, just as they reminded him who had to die.
Pain suggests he's suffering more second degree burns, although that may be due to the clothing and stuff he wears, as he evidently has burns on his chest and face (despite the mask and lcothes) But his clothign didnt ignite either, so its between 30 j per sq cm and 125 j per sq cm (unless guard issue clothes are especially flame resistant) IF we figure a 50x50 sq cm chest area, and 20-20cm for the head, we get around 3000 sq cm at least. Possibly a bit more, as many Blood Pact are powerful, beefy guys, and this guy is mentioned as having an 'enhanced metabolism'.
But lets call it 3000 sq cm at 30-50 j per sq cm. Thats 90-150 kj, and we might figure at least half (possibly more) of the energy is radiated away (since he's probably holding the rifle up, probably more than half.. but nto significnatly more.. maybe 2/3 of the energy tops?) 180-300 kj for the powerpack on detonation. Thats not neccesarily an upper limit as we dont know how many shots he's loosed off since the attack started.. but if we figure full capacity each shot is worth 3-5 kj (assuming 60 shots per carbine. If its 40 shots as per older examples it would be 4.5-7.5 kj per shot.) With inefficiency, omnidirecitonal blast and energy absorbed, clothing, and possibility of a less than full powerpack, we can probably guess the actual yield may be several times greater easily, if nto more.
And if we figure 125 j per sq cm that's 375 kj per side, or 750 kj total which is 12.5-19 kj per shot.


Page 177
Synthetic blood supplement.
“This isn’t real blood,” he said. “It’s artificial. Made in a vat.”
Vat grown blood, I gather. Cloned/replicated blood, in other words. The Imperium makes limited use of cloning technology.



Page 177
“I can sense him already,” she said.
..
“I’ll have his location soon. His heartbeat."
If the witch (or any sorcerer) has the blood, they can track a target.



Page 178
"A day more, perhaps two, that’s the measure of our lifetimes. We knew this when we accepted the burden upon our souls.”
“You did. Not me,” she replied.
“We were made for this, sister, we - ”
“I was made. I was made for this. The gore mages wove me for this very purpose. You volunteered, Baltasar. Proud warrior, great damogaur, you volunteered for the glory of this mission. I was never offered a choice, and I wish I had been. That is one of my truths.”
He nodded sadly.
“If you’d had the choice, would you have chosen this?” he asked.
“I cannot lie,” she replied. “Sometimes I wonder what life is like. I mean, what it is like to lead a life: to be born and grow up, and make choices and follow paths. I wish I could have done that. I wonder what choices I’d have made. But I know what I am, brother. A witched instrument. No childhood, no life, no choices. Bred for just one purpose. Even so - ”
“Even so?”
“I would have chosen this. The pheguth must die.”
Another interesting glimpse into the Blood Pact/Consanguinity society. In alot of ways there are similarities, but there are sitll significant differences. The warpcraft. The causal use of blood and death... the extremes of devotion. And yet... they can still be human, yearn for something different, and better, than the life they've been inflicted upon.
What I thought was especially notable how the Chaos forces use, breed, and enslave psykers much the same way the Imperium does. Useful tools, that's all. They can have relations and care bout eahc other, but in the end its just tools. Its an interesting yet disturbing way that the Imperium, and Chaos, can simply be somewhat differnet reflections of one another, Chaos vs Order. Rather than one side being inherelty 'good' and the other inherently 'bad'.
Overall its another one of those interesting 'compare/contrast' things that Abnett has always done in his books: Ravenor and Eisenhorn, and here as well.



Page 187
Urbano reached into his coat and calmly produced a massive double-celled laspistol.
LAspistol with twin powerpacks. At least thats what I gather 'twin celled' means. Whether for extra ammo capacity, or more punch I don't know Or perhaps it carries two different grades of powerpack.


Page 188
“An old Guard trick. If you need to get a message through, and you can’t guarantee that the receiving caster is secure, you send what’s known in vox-officer vernacular as a twin.”
..
"The sender broadcasts a signal on one of the standard operational Guard frequencies,”
..
“the signal sounds like junk noise to anyone listening in. The Inquisition, for example. But it’s not, in several ways. For starters, it’s ’caster specific, coded for specific reception, in this case E Company vox units. And though it sounds like a random noise burst or static drizzle, it’s got the company-signature vox-code buried in it. It took me a moment to recognise that.”
“So it’s a message that sounds like vox-clutter?” asked Ludd.
Dalin nodded.
“And here’s the clever bit,” he said. “The junk signal contains the signature, plus another code called the locator. In this instance, someone has used Commissar Hark’s call sign code. The locator tells you where you should really be looking.”
“For what?” asked Ludd.
“The actual message,” said Merrt from behind them.
“The locator is a code representing another frequency,” said Dalin. “A non-standard channel, something out in the trash bandwidth. That’s where the twin is hidden. It’s called a twin, because it’s a twin of the first message. It’s usually passive-looped or non receptive, meaning that the receiver has to reach out, in vox terms, and capture the message. It’s just floating out there in the aether, waiting, completely undetectable unless you know where to look for it.”
“And that’s what the locator tells you?” asked Ludd.
Rather lengthy description of a Guard trick known as a twin. Kinda sneaky really.



Page 203
Three figures appeared a hundred metres away. That was a shock in itself, because the streets were so devoid of life.
They were soldiers. They were carrying weapons. They were hunting.
..
How many of them could she take, she wondered? Two, probably, then the third would drop her. If she was lucky and accurate, all three, but a hand-braced laspistol, rapid fire, at that range?
Implies that Criid could, with a Guard issue laspistol, hit a group of targets with reasonable accuracy at ~100 metres or so away (but not with enough accuracy to nail all three in a short period of time.) And its an accuracy issue, not a lethality one.



Page 214-215
“They’ve got warpcraft into my blood. Into your man’s blood too, I think.”
..
“They have a witch with them,” Mabbon wheezed, “a strong one. She is upon my soul, and she’s calling out to me in my dreams, commanding me to die. I can hear her. She’ll have been in your friend’s dreams too, urging him to kill."
The blood pact sorceress/witch can, through the blood connection with a target/victim, inflict psychic commands on him or her... in the case of Maggs it wsa a mind control to try and kill the traitor, whilst she was also trying to command the traitor to die (autosuggestion I gather?).

Interestingly they 'bleed' the magic out, and the cuts used to do so occur on the witch in response . Sympathetic magic.


PAge 234-235
" Balhaut was a major action. A major action. Of course it sticks in my memory. But it doesn’t define me.”
Criid stared at him. “Oh, I think it does.”
..
“I think Balhaut was hell on a stick, and I think it matters to you because Slaydo mattered to you more than you’d like to admit. I think Balhaut is an old wound for you.”
..
“You won a massive victory for the Warmaster here on Balhaut. You and the Hyrkans? The Oligarchy Gate and then the Tower of the Plutocrat? Hello? And what did he do for you? Eh? He died, that’s what he did.”
“That’s not how it happened,” said Gaunt.
“But that’s effectively what happened,” Criid replied, putting down her empty bowl. “You and the Hyrkans fought like furies for Slaydo, but when the dust settled, he was dead, and there was another Warmaster on the ascendant. You got overlooked. A pat on the back and a sideline to some backwater forest world where - ”
..
“You were Slaydo’s best. His favourite. You should have been his heir. His anointed one.”
..
“Slaydo loved you,” she replied. “Think how he favoured you. He gave you the left flank, into the Gate. Yes, I’ve read the accounts. Memorised them. He favoured you into the Gate from the left, not because that was the easy path but because he trusted your ability. You took two impossible obstacles. Bang, bang! Macaroth had taken command of the Balopolis assault simply because everyone above him in rank was dead.”
Tona and Criid discuss Balhaut and Gaunt's past. Its an interesting idea Criid evokes, and it makes me wonder if there is some truth to it. Balhaut is a bit of a memory.. a ghost haunting Gaunt. Not pleasant memories either, given his regard for Slaydo and the fact it was sucha pivotal point in the war.. and the decline of everything Gaunt believed in and had been raised to uphold. We saw that in Armour of Contempt, with welt's Interrogator. His attitude and regard for Gaunt. Macaroth is a decent leader, and Gaunt has defended him, but he's everything Gaunt is not.. the complete opposite of what Gaunt stands for.
Not sure what I think of Gaunt becoming warmaster, but its illuminating that Gaunt was much closer to Slaydo than we previously believed. And in a way it explains so much about him and what we've witnessed in the series. His duty, his desire to see the Crusade ended in victory.. his dedication to the Ghosts (the remnants of his reward and his legacy from Slaydo.. all he has to remember him by.)
Another facet of Gaunt's memories that threads this entire book is how dead and forgotten everything is. The place rebuilds, but its a ghost town, a memory. The population never recovered, and what remained has been dying off or simply surviving/enduring. There's no life or vitality in the place.. its as much a corpse as Slaydo, and what little trade it has left is in death, and in grief and in trying to bring something meaningful out of that grief, out of the supposed 'victory'.



Page 241
“The work of an EM charge, and a couple of seconds with a pair of needle-nosed pliers,”
EMP bomb to take out electronics. Ganger/mob weapon rather than military.



Page 244
It was stifling in the dark. He’d have given a great deal for a pair of no-light goggles or a scope like Mad Larkin’s.
NVG and/or Larkin's scope. Oddly they had something like that in HLC, apparently they don't have them as regular kit.

Page 245
Then somebody, a third man that neither he nor Cant had yet identified, began to shoot down through the roof with a heavy stubber.
One of hte Gangsters has a heavy stubber. Again in the 40K galaxy even the criminals/organized crime have access to military firepower.



Page 245-246
Leyr had no angle on the hatchway so he shot the hatch instead. At short range, the huge round from the bolt-action rifle dented the metal hatch, and slammed it with considerable force into the men coming through the entrance.
..
Leyr’s bolt-action rifle boomed like a howitzer in the quiet darkness, and ejected the third figure from the hatchway and out onto the dock. The man simply disappeared, as if violent decompression had sucked him out of the doorway.
Effect of bolt action heavy rifle. Not neccesarily military issue, but possibly hunting issue (Leyr says he hunted with one back on Tanith.) Considerable impact all told, maybe heavy caliber/high velocity slug (not neccesarily .50 cal, but something much more poweful than .300-308 I'm betting.)



Page 246
Meryn didn’t waste shots. The first and second men were in line with him, and closely spaced. Meryn knew that at this kind of range, a las-round from a rifle could go through two torsos as easily as it could go through one. There was no need for a burst of full auto. He fired, and dropped the men together, as one, tumbling them down in a tangle of limbs as they clawed in vain at each other for support.
Like in many ghosts novels and some Guard ones (like Death World, Ice Guard, etc.) Lasfire overpenetrates like fuck through bodies to hit multiple targets in succession...at least at lcose range here. WE dont know the provenance of the rifles, except they were kept by gangsters, which means they may not be top of the line, first rate military issue but what the Guard can have should be minimlally capable in that regard.
Penetration wise, we're looking at at least a good 50-60 cm at least (for front/back shots through both bodies, to perhaps up to 70-100+ cm (for side to side shots) Diangnols might be 120+ cm for both bodies. ASsuming an actual laser we're talking something like 1.5-2 cm hole diameter at least, more probably 3-5 cm hole for the higher end. Which is consistent with lasfire in earlier sources blowing off limbs, or blowing off one or several fingers in a single shot. At the very least with 1-2 cm... we'd be talking a few kj at the very very least, and more likely 10-20 kj for that kind of penetration (again hypothetical 'battle laser' type rifle as outlined on atomic rockets.) if the hole is bigger, teh energy output for the given penetration ranges would at least double, probably quadruple.. possibly more. Mid to high double digit kj per shot in that case.
It also indicates that for whatever reason and however we figure Guard lasweapons in the latter ghosts novels to work, they overpenetrate like hell at close ranges.



Page 250
“In fact, she matters so little, I may just shoot you through her and have done with it. We’re trained to do that, did you know? Specialist marksman stuff. I know where the soft targets are, you know, the places where a body isn’t bone dense. I can hit an area like that, and the round punches clean through into you. You might as well be hiding behind a curtain.”
..
Daur fired once.
The las-bolt blew out Xomat’s forehead, and toppled him onto his back.
..
Elodie had spats of blood on the side of her face from Xomat’s explosive demise.
..
“I had a good head shot. Right over your shoulder. I just had to get him to take the weapon away from your head in case he pulled the trigger with a muscle twitch when I took him down. I had to get him to change his aim.”
Not sure if Duar was serious or not, but considering a few pages ago Meryn did about the same thing and we've seen plenty of examples of lasfire having that kind of penetration in tissue, it seems likely that as long as it doesnt hit bone, even a laspistol shot can penetrate through a body to hit and incapacitate/kill a target behind it (at least 40-50 cm of penetration) at close range. Lasrifles ought to be more powerful. Couple of kilojoules very easily. Maybe 5-10 kj implied by that at least (depends on diameter, but we're talking something close to battle laser Luke Campbell cooked up.) If we go with the headsplosion example too, its at least worth a few kj (partial headsplosion anyhow.)



Page 254
They’d broken into the house together. It was a nothing special place, just a residence on the by-road, a home to six members of the same family and two servants, shuttered in because of the snowstorm.
Ulrike had killed them all. Like a daemon, like a fury, she had cut them down. The image of her frenzy made Eyl shudder, and he had done his share of things in his time. What disturbed him was the mania of it, and the fact that Ulrike had been able to make cuts like sword wounds with the merest flicks of her fingers.
So much blood had been spilled, with sufficient frenzy, that the walls had become pressure-painted, and the air was still dewed with aspirated molecules of blood. There was a blood mist in the house.
Ulrike was trying to read the blood. She had eviscerated all the corpses, so as to read their prognostications.
She flung the clotted ropes of meat aside, and stamped her feet furiously in the growing lake of blood.
“I can’t see him!” she shrilled. “I can’t see him. He’s hiding from me!”
A good reminder that, whatever similarities we might discover between Chaos and the Imperium... there are still enough differences - creepy ones - to keep me from getting too sympathetic. The Imperium is not the most benevolent or kindly organizations, but they'd hardly do shit like this (at least not without being insane.) The brutality is a nice shock given the earlier attempts at 'humanization/sympathy' it creates.. a strong, rather extreme contrast. Again the Consanguinity forces are very casual about death and blood. They have far less respect for life (due to their beliefs and upbringing) than the Imperium does.
It doesn't make them inherently.. evil... its just that they've been twisted by the life and upbringing they've had. And that may be a point Abnett is trying to get across. Again Chaos isn't evil, and there is nothing inherently evil about it.. it just brings out and magnifies the worst traits in humanity (and other living beings).. thats where the evil comes from if thre is evil. In this case I think it also tells us that the Blood Pact and the Witches are simply tools, products of their culture and its values, inasmuch as the Tanith and the Guard are products of theirs, and both have positive and negative aspects to them (although not to the same degrees, obviously.)
So what is it about the Consanguinity (aside from their affiliation with Chaos) that makes them this way? I suspect it has to do with the nature of leaderhsip and the tribal manner in which Chaos operates. In the military sense we've seen those 'cults of personality' I've referred to before.. you have a single, powerful leader who rules by force of will. And quite often is blessed (cursed) by the powers of the warp. They may look human or they may be monstrous. Many have unusual powers, or superhuman allies/bodyguards. But every leader we've seen - Pater Sin, Skara, Gaur, Innokenti, Heritor Aphshodel, Nokad the smiling.. they're all twisted, insane, and brutal in the very worst manner of Chaos. And through that twisted insanity and that force of personality, they twist and shape their minions and their own beliefs.
The Irony in that is that in many ways it is a similarity they share with the Imperium. The Imperium is big on propoganda, on shaping the average person to its own goals, manipulating psychologically and intellectually (trhough fear, superstition, hatred, etc.) the common Imperial into achieving whatever Goals the Imperium wishes. So like.. and yet so unlike.

Anyhow, also in a more technical sense the Blood Pact witch can inflict sword-stroke scale injuries with a flick of her fingers. More effective than trying to quish someone's heart with an invisible hand, really.



Page 269
The Kapaj First was a new founding, nothing exceptional, reasonably promising. Gaunt had been appointed to the regiment as visiting instructor as part of his retirement duties on Balhaut.
...
The Kapaj First, all told, was nearly fifteen thousand strong. Someone had started the gossip that the Kapaj was going to be Gaunt’s ticket to the rank of general or general marshal, a significant step on the ladder to a full high-staff position, such as an appointment militant or a marshallcy of guard.
Another new regiment, fifteen thousand strong. Seems the Sabbat Worlds region involves rather huge regiments quite frequently in the double digit thousands. The Ghosts are an exception here, as they are merely in the several thousands. Only the armour regiments we've seen get that small usually (EG Narmenians.) The Volpone, Jantine, and others were quite large too. I think maybe the Vitrians were smaller though. Possibly the Roane Deepers. And maybe the Krassians.

Another small aspect about this (aside form the titles and roles of rank the Muniotrum has lord generals and marshals) is that the Ghosts had rumours that because they were 'retired' Gaunt might abandon them. It reinforces that, with the losses they took at Jago, they've been rather severely broken again in a siege. Nearly half the regiment wiped out, they're still a sizable veteran force, but they don't have much room left to lose people either. In fact it makes me wonder how Salvations REach will go. How many more will be lost?



PAge 281
Gnesh stepped up, facing the front door of the old tenement. He flexed his broad shoulders to settle the strap of his heavy lasgun, and opened fire. He hosed the doorway from the hip, pumping fat bolts of las into the door, the frame and the brick surround. The door shredded, puncturing like a desiccated autumn leaf. The frame ripped and burst in spiking clumps of splinters and wood pulp. The brickwork fractured and cratered, vomiting clouds of brick dust. Some shots tore through into the reception hall behind the door, and detonated furniture or dug up floorboards.
Heavy lasgun in action again. Extreme devastation, extreme penetration, large calibre rounds, and large ammo capacity. Not easy to calc, but fairly pulverizing brick like that... quite probably at least double digit kj per shot.



PAge 282
He got less than a metre into the hallway when he began to tremble. The sensation was mystifying. Kreeg was almost more troubled by the sudden onset of the ailment than by the discomfort it brought him.
...
It took ten seconds for the effects to amplify, boiling through his body like a chemical toxin, or like the burn of a class six hot virus, the sort of monster pathogen a man might contract on a deathworld, and which would kill him in three days.
This took ten seconds. Kreeg began to convulse. He dropped his rifle and staggered, his balance gone. He felt as if he had caught fire inside. Fluid was filling his lungs, choking him. He started to cough, and blood sprayed from his mouth.
...
Kreeg was bleeding out. Unclotting blood was gushing from his nose, his eyes and his mouth, from his fingertips, from his pores, from every opening of his body. He shuddered one last time, slumped further, and died.
..
Karhunan pointed down at the doorstep, and Gnesh saw the sigil that had been scratched in the wood and inked with blood: a blood ward, and a lethal booby-trap. Kreeg had stepped right over it.
Blood Ward. More Blood PAct sorcery.



Page 294
“This isn’t where Slaydo fell,” Gaunt whispered.
“No?” Maggs whispered back.
“He went down about sixty metres that way on the western palisades. Then they dragged his corpse another hundred metres, and ritually dismembered it. I bet that isn’t on the tour.”
“It’s not,” whispered Jaume.
“I can’t believe they’ve got so much of this stuff wrong,” murmured Gaunt.
“Unlike you, they weren’t here,” said Mabbon quietly.
It's interesting.. because if Gaunt is telling the truth (and he is nothing but Truthful) the account in the Sabbat Worlds Crusade book is wrong as well, as the book tells he chased after the Archon after inflicting a mortal wound on him and his minions tried carrying him away whilst fending off Slaydo.. slaydo died of multiple (mortal) wounds. This suggests he was killed at some point, his body captured, then mutiliated by Chaos. A much more brutal and demoralizing example, which may suggest the truth was suppressed.
Indeed that would fit with the theme of this last part of the book.. so much of what is 'publicly' claimed about Balhaut.. the details.. are either wrong, forgotten, or simply misrepresented by various people - either because they don't want to remember the horror, or are trying to put a positive spin on something tragic.. or just to profit off the tragedy. Gaunt is the only one (purportedly) who remembers the truth.. again its very symbolic of Gaunt being an anachronism in the 'modern' Crusade.. noone remembers (or wants to remember) the things he recalls, and his presence alone is an unpleasant reminder of that.



Page 304
From cover, Captain Tawil took a shot that hit Karhunan in the gut. The sirdar fired back, instinctively on auto, and shot Tawil to pieces.
A burst of lasfire seems to blast someone to pieces. If we go the lazy route? call it hundreds of kj withina second or two. Assuming 10-30 shots per escond we're talking single/double digit kj per shot easily. Whats more is I think he was a storm trooper (possibly power armor.) I

Page 304
. He’d just seen his brother Bare fall, his brains splashed up the wall. The area ahead of the sirdar was littered with Imperial dead.
Whether a las shot or hellshot did it we dont know, but probable headsplosion from some small arm (in unknown number of shots


Page 304
Gnesh led the way, hosing the colonnade with fire. S Company troopers, screaming for want of cover, burst like meat sacks. Gnesh was laughing.
Heavy lasgun dude. His shots (single or plural) are detonating S Company storm troopers, implying that the damage is (with single shorts or burst) comparable to a hot-shot round. Assuming 1 MJ or so to several MJ, even if we assume 100 shots per second we're talking at least 10-20 kj per shot at least. More probably we're talking tens or hundreds of kj per shot as he's rupturing multiple ones.



Page 306
The bolt blew Malstrom in half, and painted the cloister wall with a terrible quantity of blood.
Bolt round again.


Page 306-307
“I aim to please,” Larkin replied, the long-las banging in his hands.
There was a crunch of overpressure and punctured vacuum. Blood vapour drenched Gaunt and Mabbon, caking their dust-covered faces.
Eyl’s skull had just detonated. His headless body fell against Gaunt.
Larkin special. Blood pact Headsplosion.

Page 308-309
The blood-scream knocked them all flat, and blew out the huge skylights of the Honorarium. Howling, the witch came for them, surrounded by a coruscating ball of warp-lightning. She was demented and raving. She was screaming vengeance for the death of her beloved brother. She came at them across the floor of the Honorarium like a typhoon, driving an arctic blizzard before her. Dry lightning tore the air.
All Wes Maggs saw was the old dam who had haunted his mind since Hinzerhaus. All Wes Maggs wanted was to be free of her phantom torment.
He opened fire, screaming, on full auto, and discharged the lasrifle’s entire energy reservoir.
His shots exploded the witch’s cocoon of warp-energy, and shredded her. She took nearly two hundred hits, and by the time her body struck the paving stones, it was pulped beyond any semblance of articulacy. The last few shots lifted her veil for a second as she fell back. Maggs saw her face, a face he would never forget. His weapon misfired, and began to chime repeatedly on charge out.
Maggs goes hardcore on the Chaos witch. First off, its at least 200 shots in the power pack, and thats definitely a lower limit. For one thing it assumes all the shots hit.. even assuming 70-80% accuracy (it is rather close range) we'd be tlaking 250-300 shots. Secondly, it assumes the lasgun was at full charge when Maggs grabbed it. He snatched the weapon off one of the dead Blood Pact, which was the Guard issue castoff surplus from before, and its possible the powerpack had been depleted.
Now, secondly... rate of fire. Its implied in no more than seconds the Blood Witch is killed. We know from armour of contempt that 10 seconds or so for a rifle on full auto continous drains a fresh pack. In this case, its a good 20 rounds pre second at least, possibly upwards of 100+ shots a second if we're talking only a couple seconds. If its more shots.. the output is correspondingly greater. We know an implied forty or so shots a second from Only in Death, which with the 10 second factor owuld imply 400 shot capacity total.. and would mesh with here reasonably well. tens of shots per second either way, and thats a minimum.
Third, the effect of said 200 or so shots. The body is effectively pulverized on one side, but I dont think its blasted to pieces either. AT the very least thats probably some hefty burns. If we figure at least 2nd or 3rd degree burns (25-50 j per sq cm) we'd be talking at least 250-500 kj per shot, which is at least 1.3-2.5 kj for thermal effects alone.
If we're going by flash burns, we migth go all out and the 4th degree (400 j per sq cm.) but its not neccesarily every square cm of the body (no pun intended) burnt. figure 10-100% which is between 400 and 4000 kj for one side. at 200 shots that works out to between.. 2-20 kj per shot.
A last way we might play flash burns into this (4th degree) is by just going by individual lasbolt spot size estimates. We know a lasbolt usually creates around at least a 2-3 cm diameter hole, and sometimes much bigger (esp at back) and it can get as large as 5-6 or more cm. I'll just stick between 2 and 6 cm and ignore larger exit holes for now since it will all fall to within an OoM probably of one of those two values anyhow. a 2 cm diameter wound would be 3-4 sq cm roughly, whilst 6 cm diameter is ~28 cm. At the conservative end its 'only' 1.2-1.6 kj, whilst at the far end its 'only' 11.2 kj. if the 'hole' is assumed on both sides (through and through penetration which also happens) the figure can double.
We could also just use my prior estimates for lasgun powerpacks to derive estimates. Lowest I figured was a rechargable modern (or near future) battery (600 kj per kg, like in Luke Campbells LAZOS, resultd in 240 kj las powerpacks for rifles and 150 kj for carbines) to 1-2+ MJ (lasgun pack comparable to tube charge/grenade, and by volumetric estimate of 1-2 kj per cubic cm and estimated powerpack volume) At 200 shots (at least) thats between slightly less than a kj to 1.2 kj per shot at least for 200 shots (nearly) and at the other end we're talking 5-10 kj per shot.
Overall we can broadly infer, firepower wise, another 'single to double digit kj per bolt' estimation, firepower wise.


Page 314
Dorden nodded. “Leukaemia. Blood cancer. It’s all through him.”
“Oh, Throne. How long?”
“Zweil? That old bastard will live forever.”
“But - ”
Dorden sighed. “He doesn’t like the blood tests, does he? Old Zweil doesn’t like needles. I had to show him how to do it.”
“So?”
“When my back was turned, he switched the samples.”
“So… oh no. No. No!”
“Hush,” said Dorden.
“My eyes won’t let me cry,” Gaunt said, looking at his old friend.
“It’s probably best that way.”
“How long?”
“Six months, if I’m lucky. But I want to keep going. You know, and Ana knows. Don’t tell anyone else. I want to fight to the end. I want to serve to the end.”
Now this was a kick to the balls. Its not the ending. Earlier in the book Dorden mentions Zweil is resisting his exams, for fear he may be dying. But he's not dying, Dorden is. Dorden gave himself an injection (we are innocently told earlier) so that he could trick Zweil into getting his samples. So when Zweil switche dthe samples.. we learn that he inadvertantly got Dorden's results. So its a kick in the pants on one hand we're to believe Zweil might be dying.. only to find out it was a horrible trick of a horrible trick and its Dorden whose dying. Again Abnett shows he's got a gift for fucking with your head when it comes to the major characters.. this is another 'senseless' death, although its not a neat and clean one the way Caffran's was. Hell, Bragg's was cleaner. But its emotional.
If one is really wondering about the ending.. Gaunt's memories of Balhaut. He's serving alongside a PDF soldier he called a hero to the dude's son, but he claimed he didn't remember or recognize the name (a lie or he really didn't remember.) It was touching because Gaunt considered the PDF people he served alongside heroes, which is typical of him. Modesty and all that.
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It's interesting.. because if Gaunt is telling the truth (and he is nothing but Truthful) the account in the Sabbat Worlds Crusade book is wrong as well, as the book tells he chased after the Archon after inflicting a mortal wound on him and his minions tried carrying him away whilst fending off Slaydo.. slaydo died of multiple (mortal) wounds. This suggests he was killed at some point, his body captured, then mutiliated by Chaos. A much more brutal and demoralizing example, which may suggest the truth was suppressed.
So I'm not the only one to notice...

My take though is that Gaunt is probably the one who got the details wrong, as he was in an entirely different place when Slaydo was killed (Gaunt meanwhile was at the Tower of the Plutocrat).

The PoV character in the ABD short story in the Sabbat Worlds Compilation by comparison was a member of Slaydo's Honour Guard, who was there when Slaydo was actually killed; and there was no ritual dismemberment in his account (albeit the PoV character was knocked out just after the duel). Given the circumstances, I don't think he had real reason to remember what happened differently.

Interestingly, both accounts also contradict the old Sabbat World guide book, which actually had Slaydo surviving long enough to be brought to his flagship and hand over command to Macaroth. That one is most likely the "propaganda" version, as in-universe it was written by Biota (one of Van Voytz's aides) as a historical piece.

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Also, no mention of how Gaunt actually had his own memorial in Balhaut, because the folks there thought he died when taking the Tower of the Plutocrat? While it may have been played for laughs ("I didn't die here, I swear"), there's part of me that wonders whether this could be a hint that Gaunt is in fact a literal ghost who died at Balhaut and who's been hanging around ever since... Might explain why he gets to go into otherwordly places.
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Zinegata wrote:So I'm not the only one to notice...

My take though is that Gaunt is probably the one who got the details wrong, as he was in an entirely different place when Slaydo was killed (Gaunt meanwhile was at the Tower of the Plutocrat).

The PoV character in the ABD short story in the Sabbat Worlds Compilation by comparison was a member of Slaydo's Honour Guard, who was there when Slaydo was actually killed; and there was no ritual dismemberment in his account (albeit the PoV character was knocked out just after the duel). Given the circumstances, I don't think he had real reason to remember what happened differently.
Probably. Gaunt may or may not be right, depending on what he knows/believes, but the ADB story is probably the most accurate account given its 'at that moment' and the hardest to write off as faulty (unless we treat it as a private account rather than an 'at that very moment' omniscient observance. Of course if we do that the same applies to Gaunt's recollections, so at best they're equal and at worst the Anthology depiction is the closest in accuracy.)
Interestingly, both accounts also contradict the old Sabbat World guide book, which actually had Slaydo surviving long enough to be brought to his flagship and hand over command to Macaroth. That one is most likely the "propaganda" version, as in-universe it was written by Biota (one of Van Voytz's aides) as a historical piece.
Right.
Also, no mention of how Gaunt actually had his own memorial in Balhaut, because the folks there thought he died when taking the Tower of the Plutocrat? While it may have been played for laughs ("I didn't die here, I swear"), there's part of me that wonders whether this could be a hint that Gaunt is in fact a literal ghost who died at Balhaut and who's been hanging around ever since... Might explain why he gets to go into otherwordly places.
Depending on my mood I try not to spoil everything because that would ruin the book for some (Yeah, I know, I'm generally not too careful about spoilers, but as I said its mood.) It doesn't help sometimes that my mood for what is 'important' changes as well. :P

Ususually if I miss something or get it wrong I figure someone else will correct me or point it out. Its happened plenty of times before.
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So, with this we catch up at last to the 'current' primary storyline in the Ghosts Series with Salvation's Reach. It continues the 'transitional' aspect of the current cycle as started in Blood Pact, in that the Ghosts are now acting on the intel of the Traitor, and must go behind enemy lines to destroy a vital facility of the Archenemy, hopefully striking a blow that will have long-term consequences. Given that the next book is 'Warmaster', I think we can say that this probably will try to maintain the 'epicness' the last cycle was lasting but that we had in 'The Saint' cycle.

Besides the primary plot, this story is interesting for a number of reasons. For one thing, much of the story takes place in space and aboard a ship, which includes much of the development of various subplots (Meryn, Dalin, Merrt, Dorden, etc.) As well as the beginnings of others (Gaunt has a surprise waiting for him, as well as rocky parts for his interpersonal relationships with some of the other Ghosts.) We also get one of those rare inclusions of Space Marines within the story (and to this point it reflects one of the few Space Marine characters within the series.) and is another of the strong points (and to my mind sells the 'Abnett can Write Space Marines' better than Brothers of the Snake, honestly.) Overall it was quite an enjoyable, solid book that continued many of the key traditions/themes of a Ghosts novel and is still managing to keep the storyline pretty interesting to me even after all this time.

As an aside with the technical notes, Salvations' reach has a ton of space warfare stuff, and its honestly much better handled and more clear cut than the one in Sabbat Martyr was, IMHO. It also seems to borrow alot on the FFG material fluff and certain other details (warp-based voids, for example.)


Since I have delayed in the updates and because I want to finish up the main line (due to impatience) it will be a dual update).


Part 1

Page 14-15
The smell of gun oil was sweet and strong in his nostrils.

Standard Munitorum-issue laspistol, Khulan V pattern. It was one of the original stamped blanks shipped from Khulan for finishing in the armouries of Tanith, prior to issue at the Tanith Founding. The palm-spur had been fitted with a handmade nalwood grip, and age and use had lent the figuring greater beauty than any varnish or lacquer could have achieved.

The pistol had been smuggled into the lighthouse over a period of weeks, one part at a time. It lacked a power cell, a flash sleeve and the side casings. Rawne reached into his belt pouch.

Inside were two cigars rolled in black liquorice paper. The S Company sentries had taken them out, sniffed them, and given them back. Each cigar was in a little tin case.

Except they weren’t.

One of the tin cases was actually a flash sleeve. Rawne blew out the traces of tobacco fibre and screwed the sleeve onto the end of the barrel.

The Urdeshi had also failed to notice that he was wearing four tags, not two. Rawne unlooped the two side plates from the slender chain, dropped the tags back down under the neckline of his vest, and slotted the side plates into position.

Then he struck the tip of his knife into the back of his boot heel, and pulled the heel block away from the upper. The power cell was secured in a cavity he’d hollowed out of the heel. Rawne stamped the heel back in place, then slapped the cell into the gun. He toggled off, armed it, got a tiny green light on the grip just above his thumb. He felt the ambient hum of a charged las weapon.
Rawne assembles a Tanith-issue lasweapon. Interesting for various points. First is the industrial aspect: the components were bulk-produced elsewhere and finished on Tanith, suggesting some major industrial worlds may not provide just finished goods, but just the components for other individual worlds (Such as those without their own full or perfect industrial base, or worlds specialized in other ways.) which may be used to make finished goods.

I'm not sure what the side casings are (except to conceal the internal components and make it self sealed.) but the flash -sleeve is clearly the cylindrical bit (with the downwards slant at the front in some cases) over the barrel at the end of every lasweapon. Its interesting that lasweapons including laspistols can be so completely disassembled into compact components - the obvious reason for that is that each component is self contained and can be individually replaced without extensive knowledge of maintenance of the weapon.. this may also simplify logistics. Its also interesting how you can simply store the broken down (and exposed) components in a musette bag and still have it more or less function after a period of weeks in cold, damp conditions (it was hidden in some sewer pipe or something like that.)

And then there is the power pack. The power pack is VERY compact. Indeed given that it can be fit into a boot heel. I'd guess that at the best you'd have maybe a 1-2 cm thick, 5-8 cm per side powerpack, more geared toward the smaller end. For a rechargable battery that woudl be 25 cubic cm to 128 cubic cm. at 1.25 kj per cc that would be approximately 31 kj per pack. At 20-30 shots per power pack (inquisitor RPG and FFG RPGs) you get between 1-1.5 kj roughly per shot. At the far end (less likely) you get 160 kj per pack and 5-8 kj per shot. Again I'm guessing towards the shorter end really, because the heel can't be hollowed out wholly. 1.2x5.5x7 cm might be between 46 cc depending on how generous you are with thickness (call it 45-50 cubic cm) which is between 56-63 kj per shot. At that we'd get between 1.8 and 3.2 kj per shot, roughly.





Page 15-16
He smelled caffeine and the unmistakable aroma of fried nutrition fibre. Slab, staple of the common lasman’s diet, cornerstone of Guard rations.

..
On the tray was a tin cup and a flask of caffeine, a salt shaker, a mess dish with the remains of a serving of slab cake, hard biscuits and refried bean paste, and a worn metal spoon.
In frist case, Crusade-style guard cuisine, again. In second, prisoner, probably of same vintage.



Page 17
Rawne’s shot had severed the heavy iron chain that linked the etogaur’s manacles to a hefty floor pin.
Laspistol shot severs chain. Sounds impressive, but with a designed barrage easy to do. 100-200 joules per pulse, 10 pulses at 3mm spot size and 10 microsecond deslay style Luke Campbell 'blaster' laser, can penetrae nearly 1 cm diameter steel chain links up to severa cm 'deep'. That could easily handle any chain I am aware o. It would also mesh with the estimated size of the cell powerpack, and fits certainly better with the lower end 'compact' nature of the powerpack (1-3 kj per shot roughly)




Page 17
The shooter outside switched his lasrifle to full auto and unleashed a storm of rounds into the room. Several struck the side of the heavy cot, splintering the wood and slamming the frame backwards. Some hit the trolley table and knocked it over. Some punctured the back of the old chair and filled the air with dust and floating animal hair fibres.
Lasrifle fire on inanimate furniture. Again note the implied recoil




Page 20
The dispersal point was a city called Anzimar on a planet called Menazoid Sigma. It had taken sixteen weeks on a stinking troop-and-packet ship to reach it from Balhaut, and they had been there eleven months
I dont quite remember the maps and I'm too lazy to check, so call ti between 10-100 LY or so, we're looking at least at sveral tens to several hundred c. Not huge in any event since its about four months transit, although I'm assuming a.) straight line and b.) continuously uninterrupted, neither of which is liekly. Its still not going tob e blisteringly fast by 40K warp travel terms, but there's lots of varaibles involved like always.




Page 22
She had become part of the community attached to the Tanith First regiment. There were at least as many hangers-on following the regiment in supporting roles as there were serving lasmen.
...
They had not formally married. The matter hadn’t really been discussed. Marriage was permitted, and simply required certain documents and certificates to be signed by the commanding officer.
..
Just a few weeks spent with the regimental train had shown Elodie that formal bonds were unnecessary. Soldiers understood loyalty, and loyalty was the glue that held everything together. She was Ban’s woman, and everyone respected that. They didn’t need a piece of paper to prove it.
Daur picked up Elodie on Balhaut last novel, working in a gambling den. They're effeticely together, almost married. Also note the term 'las-men' which seems o be Abnett's term for 'riflemen', so Also the Hangers on are as numerous as the regiment (at least) implying in excess of a thousand or two. Also the soldier's view of marriage and relationships, which echoes what we've seen of Caffran and Tona.



Page 23
The entourage train was a curious community. At the uppermost level were the wives and the women, the wet nurses and the children. A regiment always bred offspring. There were the pleasure girls and the camp followers, the women who were not attached to the regiment by way of blood like a wife or a mother, but by way of reliance. Their living came from the regiment, so they had to follow the regiment wherever it went. And just as their living came from the regiment, so did the livings of the seamsters, the button-makers, the dentists, the potion-grinders, the launderers, the entertainers, the musicians, the portraitists, the cooks, the bottlemen, the victuallers, the errand boys, the knife-sharps, the menders and fixers, the polishers, the cobblers and all the rest, most of whom brought along families of their own. It was an ungainly, parasitic entity that lived so that its host could live, and went with it everywhere, the two dependent on one another for survival.
More description of the hangers on, the entourage of the ghosts we've seen from past novels. Again it remidns me strongly of an 'extended family' setup... a sort of interdependence that reinforces concepts of loyalty and bonds of brotherhood that make you believe that soldiers, and their hangers on, understand those concepts without formalized acknowledgement like 'marriage' - they're held together by much stronger bonds.



Page 24
Before dawn, the cookfires had lit and the musicians had begun turning up. The Makeshift Revels were a festival, a carnival that marked the departure of a regiment from its station. As soon as rumours began to circulate that a regiment was about to make shift, the revels began. All manner of traders and peddlers came to the shore and set up shop, bringing street entertainers, beggars, whores and, inevitably, thieves. It was the last chance for the soldiers to indulge before departure, the last chance for the entourage to acquire items before the next halt, the last chance for the host town to earn coin from the visiting troops.

It felt to Elodie like the heady holiday fairs that led up to a major feast day back on Balhaut. It was noisy and brash and cheerful, and there were treats and temptations to savour. But there was a gaudy, apocalyptic air about it too. The regiment was going to war. No one yet knew where, or what kind of war, and no one even knew the exact hour they would make shift.
..
This was the real thing, and some of those leaving would never come back, not to here or anywhere.
I think this is one of those 'happy/sad' things about the ghosts novels I often like, because it gives you a little something positive, with the promise that something may be taken away. The celebratory nature is kind of uplifting, but there's that undertone of the bad things that could happen - friends and family dying, not knowing what the future holds, etc. It kinds makes me recall that for some, happiness is transitory, and that can make it all the more important.

More, it reinforces that 'extended family' feeling I mentioned earlier, and also reflects a sort of 'nexus point' of interaction between different regiments.



Page 25
Elodie had learned that ‘the shore’ was simply Guard slang for any camp they occupied before shipping out. The shore was a lasman’s temporary connection to one world before he marched on to the next. Sometimes a shore was a real shore, like it was on Menazoid Sigma. Sometimes it was a hive top, or a desert platform, a forest town or an island base. Sometimes it was an orbital station, sometimes it was a dizzying metropolis.
'Shore' more guard slang. And another of those elements that reflects the 'transitory' nature of things in the Guard.




Page 25
The revel camp was a temporary fair of stalls and traders that had grown up between the barrack buildings at the landing skirts. Bright, hand-painted signs numbered the rows and thoroughfares to guide people around. Crowds were already growing. There were acrobats and tumblers, men hawking song sheets and hymnals, barrows selling hot slab fritters and fried biscuits, a smell of caffeine and sacra and lho-stick smoke, the tapping of tinkers and cobblers at work.

Trinkets were the most common purchases for the rabble crowd, parting gifts and keepsakes and forget-me-nots. Engravers at small stalls worked to mark names onto cheap jewellery and lockets. Ecclesiarchs and trancemissionaries sold safeguard charms and rosaries; prophylactics against harm, the eternal protection of the God-Emperor. They also handed out pamphlets and treatises for uplifting consolation during the voyage. Blessings were obtainable, and so were sermons, delivered from portable pulpits. Garlands and posies were sold in abundance, and the victuallers and black-marketeers did a busy trade in foodstuffs, drink and smokes, indulgences for the last night on shore or the long nights in transit.

The crowd parted and a jester came by, clown-masked, striding on stilts. Behind him came a gang of laughing children, most of them regimental offspring.
The elements of the revel and camp followers. Whethre its to buy some sort of possession, black market goods, get laid, or get better food than guard issue. Or entertainment. A little bit of humanity and happiness amidst the GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FUTURE WAR.

Also trancemissionaries.. I wonder if that means they use hypontism to evangelize to people? :P




Page 27
Elodie had encountered Blenner at several formal dinners. He didn’t look like a soldier. He seemed a little pudgy and unfit, a touch bloated from an easy life of inaction. He looked like an Administratum clerk dressed up as a soldier. He had, perhaps, been handsome once, but he was no longer as handsome as he thought he was, and his roguish manner was a little obnoxious. Elodie had met his type many times in the clubs of Balhaut. Privileged, silver-tongued, charming enough to like. But you’d always wonder where he was going to put his hands.
Blenner, Gaunt's friend and proof that Cain is not neccesarily an aberration in the Guard. I do like him though. We first met him in First and Only, and he now seems part of the Ghosts proper.




Page 31-32
"life with the Greygorians was pretty charmed. I mean, Throne! It was a ceremonial detail. We did marching and pomp and colour drills. It was a life of bloody luxury!"
..
"I’ve heard you talk, at length, about your exploits under fire," said Dorden.

"Yes, well. I tell a good story."

"Does Gaunt know this? He brought you into our company."

"He must know. Throne, I don’t know. He knew what I was like back when we were at scholam. I haven’t changed. He must know."

Dorden steepled his thin, white fingers.

"Vaynom," he said, "we are on the eve of making shift on a mission so significant, we haven’t even been told the parameters yet. Everyone is apprehensive. It’s perfectly natural."
...

"Look, Vaynom, I wonder if this is actually not about dying. I wonder if what you’re really afraid of is being found out. I wonder if you’re scared about being put in the line of fire and letting him down."

Blenner sighed.

"Damn," he said, "I hadn’t even considered that. I was still hung up on the dying part."
..
"If you really want to fortify yourself, you should do what I’m about to do."

"Yes?" said Blenner.

"Prayer and worship, commissar. I have become a regular shrine-goer. I think it’s kept me alive longer than any pills. Look after the soul, and it benefits the man built around it."
Blenner seems to have some anxiety about being with the Ghosts. Dorden asks him if he's afraid to die (Blenner confirms this, apparently) but I am thinking Dorden's right - its natural anxiety about a new mission - especialyl given Blenner hasn't seemed to actually serve in war, and doesnt know what to expect. I mean who hasn't been nervous when it comes to new experiences you have no reference point for? Moreover, that is reinforced by (as Dorden notes) his fear of failure in front of Gaunt and the rest (especially as a Commissar.)

That said we know he's not afraid probably - we saw him help Gaunt in First and Only, and again in Blood Pact. And he is still a Commissar and Gaunt's friend. Despite what he says, there is bound to be more mettle to him than seems obvious. I think thats what I like most about him, the same way I like that about Cain.

Also its been over a year since Blood Pact, and Dorden has outlived his diagnosis, and he attributes it to worship and faith. This being 40K and the nature of the warp and belief, this is entirely plausible. Reminds me a bit of the Guard doctor who teamed up with Ravenor in Ravenor Returned/Rogue.




Page 34
"A new company. A Belladon company. Yes, sir. Just the sort of reinforcements this regiment needs."
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"It’s his brother. He personally requested the transfer to join us. They’ve been trying to catch up with us for three years."
..
"We could use heavy infantry," said Sloman. "Maybe some serious crew weapons."

"Start showing those damn Tanith scouts how to fight a war Belladon style."
Abnett seems to have decided to get around the losses of Only in Death by reinforcing the Belladon (and Verghast we learn) components of the regimetn (can't with the Tanith of course.) A full Belladon company.. except it turns otu to be a Colour band (company) lol. Apparnetly they've bene tooling around the Sabbat Worlds following after Gaunt and trying to catch up. Wilder (the guy who took over the Ghosts while Gaunt was on Gereon) requested them, showing that while reinforcement is possible, its something you accomplish with pull.

Also the Belladon seem to be known for heavy infantry, even though the 81st were recon.




PAge 38
"Hard-round rifles," said Banda, taking one for herself. "Old, shoddy, bolt action hard-round rifles. What the gak?"

"What’s this ammo?" asked Questa. He held up a large calibre round. It had a brass firing cap and a head that looked like it was made of glass.
Speicl equipment acquired by Larkin. He apparently intends to train the Sharpshooters with them for the upcoming engagement. He learned about it by distracting Gaunt's adjutant and checking regimental supply manifests to see what they're beeing allocated and figure out their destination and what sort of place it is. That unofficial 'theory vs practice' thing that characterizes so much of how the Guard operates in the field.




Page 39
Two were Guard escorts, one of whom was carrying a double-headed eagle on a leather gauntlet. The eagle, cybernetically modified, was hooded.
Regimental mascot. Genetically engineered (probably) or augmetically engineered double headed eagle lol.



Page 40
"I have six full companies," Petrushkevskaya said. "All Verghast-born and founded. They await in orbit to transfer to your vessels. They are bursting with pride to follow in the great tradition and join, at last, the regiment of the People’s Hero."
..
One was a lithe woman of startling beauty. Her head was shaved to a fine down of hair, emphasising the sculptural arch of her skull. She was wearing an armoured bodyglove and had an astonishingly crafted steel rose in her lapel. The weapon at her hip was shrouded with a red cloth, as was the Verghast custom. She was a civilian, an up-hive lifeguard, Daur realised, a very expensive and capable employee.

The other figure was clearly her principal. He was wearing a plain black bodysuit and boots, a young man no more than fifteen or sixteen years old who had not yet lost the frailty of adolescence. His thin face was striking and narrow, almost feminine in its beauty. His hair was blond.
Verghast born reinforcements to the Ghosts. With the belladon companies that probably means they are in excess of 2000, peraps 2500 men all told (depending on how many per company.. 100-200 likely.) The other two figures are Merity' Chass's (the woman from Necropolis Gaunt slept with and was the daughter of Lord Chass during the Vervunhive siege) son and heir, and his bodyguard. Which again suggests the reasons for reinforcement come from political pull than anything to get them transported, but it is possible and does happen.


Page 47
”The Adeptus Astartes Space Marines operate on a different level to us, boy,” said Mercure quietly. “We fight the same war, wage the same crusade, but their operational context is far removed. They attempt what we cannot even consider. They undertake what unmodified humans cannot. We are brothers in arms, but our paths and concerns seldom overlap. It’s simply the Imperial way of war”
Comments re: Adpetus Astartes. This book is notable in that we get to see Space Marines directly interacting with the Ghosts and in action. Only 3 (Silver Guard, White Scars, Iron Snakes) but its something. Abnett often gets accused of not being able to write ‘proper’ Space Marines, but that is bullshit. What makes htis interesting is that it reflects their mindset (as described above.) how they are regarded as ‘special’ and designed to conduct warfare quite unlike the Guard is, and that they are rare and precious, as we’ll see. Also when it comes to fighting normal chaos troops they're killmachines. Towards their allies, they're kinda standoffish, superior, but the White Scar one is probably my favroite of the lot. The Iron Snake is an uncommunicative dick and the Silver Guard is somewhere in between.


Page 50-51
”You don’t ask the Adeptus Astartes Space Marines for favours. It’s about compacts and alliances. It’s about doing enough to simply get noticed, so that when you ask them for something, they care who you are.”
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“We get three Space Marines, Ludd. Just three. They are rare and they are precious. Long gone are the ages when they marched across the stars in their hundreds or thousands. We’re lucky to have three.”

“Under most circumstances,” said Edur, “‘three is more than enough.”
This reinforces the essentially independent nature of the Astartes when it comes to warfare. They simply do not cooperate easily with other factions - they often have their own goals, methods and agendas different from the rest of the Imperium - or heck, different from the other Chapters. Of course its not like the other factions are any less prone to this. What it ultimtely comes down to is politics.. basically the sorts of interactions, deals, promises, and so on that have been worked out or made for various reasons between all these disparate factions that dictate what does or does not happen. In this case, Gaunt forged bonds with a Space Marine of the Silver Guard (the Chapter Master) and this enabled him to prevail upon them even in a limited way for assistance. Its not unlike the case in 'Warriors of Ultramar' and similar, where honour and obligation bring Space Marines to the assistance of some world or another.

Indeed we can say that the entire Sabbat Worlds crusade (or any other major or minor venture, from the Jericho Reach to the Damocles Gulf crusades.) was heavily political in some way or another and required dealmaking, collaboration, and compromise between those disparate elements to acheive something.



Also we learn that there are only going to be three. Hark reinforces the whole ‘rare and precious’ thing (you know, million marines only) and how important they are relative to toher military forces. Indeed, what is interesting about that is how Hark commesnts how large-scale deployments of MArines are a thing of the past. We KNOW that large scale formations (company or even multiple companies) do happen, although they are rare. That reinforces the whole ‘guardsmen rarely encounter Astartes’ thing well, I think, as well as the fact that although there are many elements of Space MArine chapters involved in the Crusade, the Crusade is so huge its possible for people to spend years (or decades) without encountering one, even in a relatively confined area of space as the sabbat Worlds.

The fact there are onyl three, and Edur’s comments about how they will be ‘enough’, should be more than enough to reflect how badass Abnett can make Marines :P




PAge 51-52
The regiment’s medicaes were administering inoculations to all members of the retinue. The shots were a mix of anti-virals and counterbiotics, and emperythetical electrolytes, intended to protect them from foreign infection and cushion some of the traumas of shift travel. If you didn’t have a certificate from the medicaes proving you’d had your shots, you couldn’t embark. This time around, Elodie had been told, you also needed a bond.

They were all talking about it in the queue around her. An accompany bond was a document of disclaimer issued by the Munitorum that showed the bearer understood that he or she was transiting into a warzone. Regimental retinues usually followed their units to reserve line camps or waystations adjacent to the battlefield. For a bond to be necessary this time, it indicated that, for whatever reason, the retinue would be following the Tanith First directly into the line of danger. They would be at risk. Their safety could not be guaranteed. They had to sign a bond to say they understood and accepted this jeopardy, or they could elect to remain behind. The Munitorum hadn’t required the Tanith retinue to be bonded since Ouranberg in 771.

It was a hard choice, because remaining behind was a tricky option. For a spouse or a child, or for a tradesman whose livelihood had come to depend on a regiment, remaining behind meant risking never being able to reconnect with the unit. If you missed the shift, you might never get passage to wherever the regiment got posted next. You could spend months or even years trying to catch up with a unit on the move, like that ridiculous band had, so she understood.

Again inoculations as precautions against travel and a new world (including against sickness and traumas of ship travel, that ague stuff from before, etc.) This is evidently a requirement for warp travel, and in case of civilian heading to warp zones, verification is needeD (certificates for soldiers, bonds for the civilians.) Likewise, we learn of the risks the civilian entourage faces in accompanying and supporting a regiment. Sometimes they're thrown into danger along with the troops, unless they choose to remain behind.




Page 54-55
"If you’re not actually married, with a piece of paper to show for it," said Criid, "then the Munitorum doesn’t recognise you as a widow. So some lasmen marry just to qualify for the viduity benefit. It’s not much. Just a few crowns a year, I think, a widow’s pension. But it matters to some people."
That the munitorum can be persuaded to provide a widow's pension at all is amazing.



Page 55
"Actually, the Fleet didn’t spare this either. As I understand it, the Highness Ser Armaduke was substantially damaged during the Khulan Wars and has been in the depot reserve for the last twenty-seven years. It’s had what I’ve been told is called 'modification refit', but its performance still doesn’t allow it to be fully Fleet certified"
The Ghosts transport for this mission. Meniton of a (probably sector/subsector) fleet reserve, although the vessel seems to be in rather poor shape compared to frontline vessels. As gaunt calls it 'a piece of scrapthat would have otherwise gone to the breakers.' But hey, every starship is rare and precious and irreplacable :P Except when its not lol.



Page 59
"They’re fighting troopers, damn you!" Wilder cried. He swung at Gaunt. His fist stopped dead, the wrist clamped tightly in Blenner’s right hand. The speed with which Blenner had moved to intercept was quite impressive.

"I don’t think, Captain Wilder," said Blenner, holding the wrist firmly and speaking directly into Wilder’s furious face, "that striking your commanding officer would be a great way to end your first day in this regiment. It might even be a way of making it your first and only day"
Blenner proves he is actually useful. quite fast indeed. More importantly, he's got a gift for lying and manipulation (reinforcing that Cain-like attitude.) to preserve morale and save the face of the biggest fool even.




Page 61
"In such respect, First Platoon, B Company, the Tanith First, will be designated an S company by the Commissariat for purposes of authority and powers."
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"I will consult directly on S Company procedure. That’s “S” as in security."
S company = security company for Commissariat. And apparnetly armed like (or they are) storm troopers/grenadiers.



Page 68
Larkin was no medicae, but life had given him some insight into head stuff. The stress factor suggested that it wasn’t the physical impediment of the jaw so much as a nerve thing, like a nervous tic. Augmetics, especially bulk-fix battlefield stuff, could do strange things to you. Rhen Merrt, Emperor bless him, saw his problem as simply one of gross impairment. He was busted up, ergo he couldn’t shoot any more. Larkin saw it was finer scale than that. The crude and halting neurodes of his augmetics were a constant reminder to Merrt that he was broken and imperfect, even during that one, serene, perfect moment of firing. He could never achieve full concentration. Result: shot ruined, every time.
Larkin thinks Merrt's skills are ruined because of the shitty nature of his augmetic interfering with his body, or some such. It shows that not all Guard augmetics will be as good or wonderful as Domor or Varl's, and even then the results could have unpredictable consequences. We saw this with Stele's augmetics in Ice Guard too, and those were high end as well. IT probably comes form variations in tech base and logistics from wordl to world and region to region. Varl and Domor got theirs on the forge world of Fortis Binary... Merrt got equipped later.



Page 72
"How old are you?"

"I am seventeen effective," he said.

"I was on Verghast in 769. That’s just twelve years ago. She had no children then. Even allowing for shift dilation–"
"I said I was seventeen effective," replied Meritous Chass. "I am eleven standard actual."

"As is common with high status heirs and offspring on Verghast," said the lifeguard, "my charge’s development has been slightly accelerated through juvenat and bio-maturation techniques so that he achieves functional majority as swiftly as possible."

"So you were born just after the Vervunhive conflict?" asked Gaunt.

"Just after," nodded the boy.

Gaunt blinked, and then lowered his pistol.

"Throne damn you," he said, "please don’t say what I think you’re about to say."

"Colonel-commissar," said the lifeguard, "Meritous Felyx Chass is your son."
Quite a revelation for Gaunt... and honestly I wasn't expecting it (or anything to have come from the stuff in Necropolis.) Silly me to think Abnett would ignore an opportunity like that, but thats why he's one of the better 40K writers too. Watching Gaunt be a father (or rather not be one) is an interesting experience (EG he throws him into the regiment and treats him like any other trooper, only to decide he can't be as detatched as he thinks.)

Also we learn Verghast has technologies that can accelerate age growth/development, at least in small degrees (going by 'as swiftly as possible.') It apparentyl can be controlled too (unlike the Clone troopers in Star Wars.) which could make it useful tech wise assumign its not rare or expensive (which it might be.) Its pretty commonplace on Verghast at least.

Apparently juvenat can not just retard/undo aging, it can do the opposite and accelerate it.




Page 74
The Highness Ser Armaduke was an old ship. It was an artefact of considerable size. All ships of the fleet were large. The Armaduke measured a kilometre and a half from prow to stern, and a third of that dimension abeam across the fins. Its realspace displacement was six point two megatonnes, and it carried thirty-two thousand, four hundred and eleven lives, including the entire Tanith First and its regimental retinue. It was like a slice cut from a hive, formed into a spearhead shape and mounted on engines.

It was built for close war. Its hull armour was pitted and scorched, and triple-thickness along the flanks and the prow. The prow cone was rutted with deep scars and healed damage. The Armaduke was of a dogged breed of Imperial ship that liked to get in tight with its foe, and was prepared to get hurt in order to kill an enemy.
We meet the vessel transporting the Ghosts. If we take the dimensions as literal, its actually slightly wider than it is longer, although the difference is, relatively speaking, minor ('a third of that' could technically be taken to mean around 400-500 metres, and the FFG stats are certainly not absolute - .4 km could mean between .4 and .5 km too...) so I won't worry about it. It also weighs slightly more (100,000 tons) which again isn't a significant deviation and as I've noted it may be variable - indeed the FFG stats I recall say its quite modular and adaptable, so the mass may not be fixed (and I've long discussed my issues with FFG starship masses many times before, anyhow) The notable difference is the complement, but even that is explainable.. we could attribute the differences in mass and complement to the combination of the Tanith (~2000 or thereaboutes) and the retinue (which is approximately similar). Indeed, given that the two togethre would be some 3000-4000 all told, we might infer that the crew complements are actually slightly lower than normal.

The Striek frigate concept (As discussed in FFG stuff before) also reflects interesting comments on ship design. Classification seems to only broadly define role - as 'cruisers' and frigates both can seen as multipurpose (designed equally for agility/mobility, or ofr durability and firepower), whilst others can be seen as specialized (Destroyers/raiders and battleships as a contrast) which essentially reflects that 'everything is variable' approach. Strike frigates, unlike other frigates, are specialized for slugging matches, even though it isn't a true 'ship of the line' so to speak.

The curious thing is the term 'realspace displacement' - I mean its clearly a nautical reference to wet-navy values, but its curious because it references the amount of water a ship displaces when it sits in the water (hence displacement) - its the 'mass' of the ship, but what I find curious is that its either a very archaic reference (since space is largely empty for all intents and purposes, its not 'displacing' anything') or it referes to something other than mass. By 'other' I am thinking in terms of perhaps the effect of the mass on time and space (in the sense gravity is mass curving space time, you might think of it as a 'displacement'.) This coudl be taken as an indirect reference to some 'mass lightening' process... which in turn would make sense of a number of aspects peculiar to Abnett-verse space combat (the insane accelerations and velocities implied in Sabbat Martyr, for example. I noted then that mass lightening might be an issue.) In this context, the ship's 'realspace displacement' may reflect the mass it 'appears' to be in realspace and that the thrusters affect, not its overall mass. (That doesn't mean that the mass goes anywhere of course, as I've discussed many times before, 'mass lightening' tech is never well defined and we simply cannot assume it works one way or another in 40K, nevermidn the implications from other fiction. Although if I had to pick one I favour the Mass Effect version since it sounds better than most lol.)

This would be a useful way to explain the differences in FFG ship figures and the potential mass/accel discrepancies as well. If we figured the 'thousands/tens of thosuands of gees of gees' figure from Sabbat Martyr was used and figure single/double digit gees was normal, the Tempest would probably mass more like a hundred or a thousand times more 'real' than it would 'displaced', although that assumes linear relationships between the two. Thrust wise, that also means the power genreation figures from FFG probably could be higher by a corresponding amount (to account for combining FFG masses with the 'inferred' higher thousands+ gee accels from other sources.) There is still plenty of wiggle room though here, so that shouldn't be taken as absolute (like always.)



Page 74
Formations of Fury and Faustus-class attack craft had been circling the ship at a radius of five hundred kilometres to provide protection while she was exposed and vulnerable.
Faustus-class interceptors make a reappearance. Gives you an idea of how big other interceptors (And bombers) can get.



Page 74-75
The Armaduke began to move. Initial acceleration was painfully slow, even at maximum plasma power. It was as though an attempt was being made to slide a building – a basilica, a temple hall – by getting an army of slaves to push it. The ship protested. Its hull plates groaned. Its decks settled and creaked. Its superstructure twitched under the application of vast motive power.
IT takes time for the ship to make accel



Page 76
The Armaduke was accelerating so robustly now that the fighter escort was struggling to match it. Course was locked for the system’s Mandeville point, where the warp engines would be started up to make an incision in the interstitial fabric of space. The warp awaited them.

The crew and control spaces of a starship tended to be kept separate from the areas used for transported material and passengers, even on a military operation. The transporters and those they were transporting needed very little contact during a voyage.

But the Armaduke was still twenty-six minutes from the translation point when Gaunt presented himself to the shipmaster.
Starship acceleration seems greater than fighter accel, although the context is up for debate (do the ships have inertial damping/gravitics, or some substitute like supsensors? Some do and some don't.) If we go by FFG numbers for example it would impyl fighters have a max (sustained) accel around 6-7 gees in space.

Mandeville points - (half the radius of an average star system.) The interestng bit here is that tis defined as the point at which the ship starts making its translation to the warp - it doesn't neccesarily enter it at tha tpoint, implying there is some time between teh two processes.

It implies at least 26 minutes to reach that point in this system, and we dont knwo what qualifies as 'typical' If we went with multiple AU it would be suitably insane (high thousands/low tens of thousands of gees) even for a single AU. Not impossible mind, but its likely that its at least a bit longer (probably much longer given the sixteen hour figure impllied later) Although we know of a 20 million km emergence too later, and if we used THAT figure, it would be several thousand gees accel and a max velocity (at the Mandeville point) of 8% of c. Still high, but not as insane as implied, and it can fit well with what I suggested earler re: 'realspace displacement'



Page 79-80
Mabbon Etogaur was sitting on a folding bunk in one corner of the dank magazine compartment. The walls, deck and ceiling were reinforced ceramite, and the slot hatch for the loader mechanism had been welded shut.
Ship mechanism. The magazine has a loader mechanism, although whether to haul the stuff out of the magazine into the gun or just into position for loading we don't know.





Page 87
"But I doubt he’s paid close attention to this one. Do you know how many missions he is required to scrutinise and approve every day? Across the sector? Come on. This is one raid, part of a sequence, in a corner of the Sabbat Worlds not seen as directly strategic."
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"Four weeks ago, unadjusted, the first attack. There have been seven more since. In the space of these six months, sidereal, twenty-eight raids will take place at selected locations across the trailing portions of the Sabbat Worlds."
The Sabbat Worlds implied in the most strongest terms yet (in the books) that it is actually a sector. Also twenty eight 'raids' s relatively minor for the Warmaster's terms. Considering the forces amassed for this raid, if that were an example that could still represent a considerable allocation of ships and men and shit (dozens of regiments, hundreds of ships, etc.)



Page 87-88
"Ravenor," said Chass, indicating the book.
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"Really?" said Gaunt.

"He died badly, didn’t he?"

Gaunt shrugged. "What matters is what he did first,"
A rather ominous implication for Ravenor's future, methinks.





Page 94
he confidential transit estimates at the point of departure suggested three to six days to Tavis Sun, for the fleet conjunction, and then another six to Salvation’s Reach. There was no reliable science. Some warp routes remained stable for centuries. Others vanished into hectic maelstroms overnight. All sorts of variables affected the journey time, both appreciated shipboard and external sidereal. One could travel for a month and arrive the day before one’s departure. One could set out for a three-day shift and never be seen again. If the bulk of the Armaduke’s rationed power was being diverted to turn the warp engine cogitators and assist the ship’s Navigator to track the beacon of the Astronomicon and ascertain the best possible route vector, then the passengers and crew of the Highness Ser Armaduke would be grateful enough.
Staship navigational stuffs. Warp time and space be variable, yo. Cogitators used to help the navigator make his plotting. Also 3-6 days to travel between two destinations, and then six more. If we figure at least 10-20 LY and no more than 100 Ly for the destination, we're getting between 600c and 12,000c for the first one, and 600-6000c for the second.




Page 100
"To make a good impression. I spoke to a few of the men today. Commissars come in two flavours, the lasman’s best friend and the lasman’s worst enemy. It’s an odd fact, but in the long run, the rabble prefer the latter."
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"what they need is a bit of steel. When the shooting starts, they don’t want a friend. They want someone they can absolutely depend on. The shooting’s going to start soon, commissar. Who would you want at your side? The happy clown or the cold-hearted bastard?"
We learn two interesting things with this. THere are a wide range of commissars, roughly speaking, not neccesarily simply on two parts of a spectrum - you could have some who are soft but heroic (cain), easygoing clowns but inspirational (Novobazky form His Last Command), and of course they can be all manner of inspriational, comradely and threatening (various others.) and even other things (just threatening.) Blenner is pretty clearly in the 'clown' category, good at the noncombat aspects of morale, but not much else.

Its actually kind of interesting because the Ghosts reflect such a wide diversity of Commissar types. Blenner is good at the cajoling and peacemaking. Gaunt is the inspirational 'lead from the front' type, and Hark is the politcally savvy disciplinarian. And each role serves a vital function, really.

Which leads into point two. Which sort of commisar a soldier likes depends on the situation. Outside of combat they like the 'soft touch' like Blenner. When in combat... they like someone 'with steel', like Gaunt or Hark. They don't neccesarily have to be charismatic, but they have to be steren, courageous, and present that image of strength that inspires confidence. I imagine there's a bit of a balancing act between 'coldhearted bastard' and 'terrifying executioner', and it tkaes a bit of juggling of the Commissar's tools to pull it off.





Page 108
Merrt had the bolt-action rifle Larkin was using to train him and a box of shells. Larkin had yet to explain the full significance of the old mech weapons in terms of the mission profile. A longlas was a far superior weapon.
Long las are superior to 'bolt action' rifles of an unknown caliber.




Page 110
"This jaw. This augmetic repair, it is your problem," said Sar Af. "You are being defeated by your own concentration. Your focus is so intense that as you fire the gun, it stimulates the neurodes in your jaw and you twitch."
Again Merrt's augmetic seems to be his problem. Not all Augmetics are a good thing.




Page 123
"However, an estimated twenty-three hours from now, we will translate to effect a conjunction with other Battlefleet elements at Tavis Sun. This resupply is expected to last just a few hours, and is ship to ship. Unless this mission is altered or aborted, we will not see a friendly port until this work is complete."
Implied timeframe to rendezvous with battlefleet elements.



Page 125
"It’s a narcotic. Somnia. It’s a morphiac derivative. That’s a Munitorum pharmaceutical stamp. Where did you get them?"

"They… turned up during a routine search. Are they strong?"

"Pretty strong. I mean, I’d think twice about prescribing them. Effective, but addictive. I sometimes use the liquid version as palliative relief on very damaged patients."
Blenner gets the pills from Meryn and co as a sort of 'bribe' (via the new Belladon Captain.) but Blenner isn't as gullible as Meryn thinks, and clearly has them tested out. His fear of being found wanting isn't so bad that he's willing to compromise himsel for his status as Commissar, evidently.




Page 128
Vast engineering spaces were filled with dripping, frosty coolant systems, or the black-greased pistons of circulation pumps and galvanic generators. In sooty caverns full of smoke and flame, ogryn and servitor stokers shovelled granulated promethium resin into the chutes of the combustion generators, the huge conventional turbines that ran the Armaduke’s non-drive systems. In other, cooler chambers, ancient and perfectly machined empyroscopic rotors spun along horizontal axes, maintaining the ship’s spatial equilibrium and helping to sustain the integrity of the Geller Field that protected the ship from the psycho-reactive fabric of the immaterium.
Gellar field, and stokers operating the 'non-drive' systems by feeding them granulated promethium whatchamacallit. Alternate powerplants, although whether its chemical or otherwise we don't know.




Page 129
Vast engineering spaces were filled with dripping, frosty coolant systems, or the black-greased pistons of circulation pumps and galvanic generators. In sooty caverns full of smoke and flame, ogryn and servitor stokers shovelled granulated promethium resin into the chutes of the combustion generators, the huge conventional turbines that ran the Armaduke’s non-drive systems. In other, cooler chambers, ancient and perfectly machined empyroscopic rotors spun along horizontal axes, maintaining the ship’s spatial equilibrium and helping to sustain the integrity of the Geller Field that protected the ship from the psycho-reactive fabric of the immaterium.
Again Gellar field.



Page 134-135
"Tavis Sun. Tavis Sun. Approach now factoring for fleet conjunction."
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"Have we detected the elements?"
"Not yet, sir," said the officer. "If they have made the schedule, we expect to track them in the next twenty minutes."

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"Battlefleet elements detected" another officer called out. "Holding position around the local star. "
...
A full interdiction flotilla was waiting for the Armaduke. It was a patrol group from Battlefleet Khulan: four frigates and two cruisers supported the Aggressor Libertus, an Exorcist-class grand cruiser, and the Sepiterna, an Oberon-class battleship. In their train was a family of bulk transports and fleet tenders. As soon as they identified the Armaduke making its long curve approach in from the system rim along the invariable plane a barrage of vox-hails went up. Several squadrons of fighters were launched from the flight decks of the capital ships, and one of the escort frigates, the Benedicamus Domino, impelled forwards, void shields up, to meet the approaching vessel while its identity was confirmed.
...

The Highness Ser Armaduke gunned in, riding the gravitic slope, twenty million kilometres out and closing. Its flight decks and excursion bays began to prepare for open cycle.
20 million km out from the star returning to realspace. Its not impossible - such a distance was implied in Wolf's honour (25 million km) and the novel Eye of Terror mentioned that as a minimum (tens of millions of miles) but its not exactly common either. It takes twenty minutes to detect the fleet at that range around the star.

Also the size of the fleet defined: 8 ships, plus the other frigate, If we figure this as one of those 28 'raiding' detachments mentioned in this book, that would be over 250 warships dedicated just to this, and that is supposd to be a trivial fraction of the warship strength of the Crusade, indicating perhaps they have many thousands of warships at least (which fits with the ship strengths we've seen deployed/implied elsewhere.)

The implied transit time is less than a day, and the fleet send sout one frigate and some fighters to meet it. Assuming a 3-8 hour transit (less than one ship watch) to arrive (and ignoring the rendezvous) 10-100 gees sustained accel, and between 1500-4500 km/s roughly speaking max velocity.


Page 139-140
"Translation signature three AU to port."
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"Tracking one signature. Tracking a second signature. Tracking a third."
"Three?" asked Spika.
"Tracking a fourth!"
...
The first two were Destroyer-class escorts. The third, close behind them, was a much larger cruiser.

The fourth, trailing slower and more ponderously still, was a monster, a vast battleship.
Chaos warships.. specifically daemon ships. They emerge 3 AU out, which gives us an idea of deteciton ranges (At least for warp signatures)




Page 141
Kabry fell backwards into the pheguth’s cell, the back of his skull blown out. A sticky sheen of blood and tissue coated the wall and floor surfaces behind him. Cant forced his way into the cell, laspistol drawn.
Laspistol blows out back of head/skull. At least single, maybe double digit kj.





Page 143
The interdiction flotilla didn’t wait to be fired upon. There was no mistaking the intent or allegiance of the howling daemon ships that streaked in towards them from the disintegrated stretch of realspace fabric.

The Aggressor Libertus lit off first, rolling out of its line position ahead of the massive Sepiterna. Advancing at a crawl, it delivered a series of punch-fire barrages with its main batteries, which surrounded its steepled, armoured flanks with a corona of fire.

Benedicamus Domino also commenced firing. It began to come about out of its rendezvous heading with the Armaduke and retrained on the attacking group. Its turrets began to spark and crackle as it directed its fire forwards across the gulf. It was attempting to screen and support the decelerating Armaduke, which was all but aft-end on to the attack.

The other escorts, holding their places in the gunline relative to the capital ship, began their own rates of fire.

The range was considerable, but the Archenemy ships were closing rapidly, and they seemed to drink in the Imperial barrage. Firefly darts of light crackled around the ruddy glow of their shields. Even the formidable main weapon fire of the Aggressor Libertus flashed off their shields like rain.
This implies that either they spent considerable time for the Chaos ships accelerating in system (deatable since they caught up with the Armaluke and its escort before the gun line did, who were already accelerating) or they came out of th warp at high speed (ala Sabbat Martyr.) or AU does nto mean 'astronomical unit'. The Armaluke indeed is close to the gunline and supporting frigate, as they can fire on the Chaos ships from whatever distance they emerged from.

An amusing, albeit admittedyl unlikely, possibility is that the ships ARE engaging fire at 3+ AU It has been implied elsewhere.

We might figure otherwise though that its at least millions of km engagement ragnes from this, though. Maybe its 3 Light seconds :P

If we figure they spent about eight or twelve hours (in context the most I can spend figuring they travelled, since we didn't have a sleep cycle or even an eating cycle between events I was aware of, and events happened pretty fast in this book, since as noted above they were dealing with a traitor at the same time.) At the times I figured, accelerations on both sides (if we assume both sides roughly accelerated across ~1.5 AU to reach each other - chaos and Imperial ship performance is not THAT drastically different) being on the order of tens or hundreds of gees depending on how long you figure (I went with 8-12 hours as a guess for mine.) and combined closing velocities would be on the order of ~9-10% of c roughly (this would also imply weapons fire - particularily the projectiles, were traveling many many times faster than this, and gives a good indicator of ship durability as you'd probably have tank-sized shells smacking into starships at thousands of km/s.)

(Note that I am basically cutting and pasting this from a previous quote I made - so sue me I'm lazy lol - I revised this because of the disucssion with Zinegata so I suppose I could thank him for putting me on this line of thought. Thanks! )


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Page 144
With the vox system compromised by the daemon ships’ relentless aural assault, the bridge crew of the Armaduke had switched to voice relay, shouting commands, instruction and data from position to position. Gaunt realised that the shipmaster was doing a thousand tasks simultaneously. Spika was watching every single bridge position, and the main board of his station, plus the strategium’s tactical plot. He was listening to every shouted relay, every nuance of dialogue, and chipping in with orders that sent crewmen rushing to obey. He had both hands on his master systems, operating dials and power-modulation levers without looking. He was feeling the soul and motive energy of the Armaduke as it spoke to him through the deck, the seat, the metal controls.
If true thats an incredible feat of multitasking for the ship's captain. Small wonder they link up princeps style with starships.




Page 145
The Armaduke began to turn. Once fully executed, the manoeuvre would put it in a modest gunline formation with the eager Benedicamus Domino, which had slowed to a dogmatic attitude of confrontation and was blitzing with all weapons. Huge volleys of main battery fire were ripping past and above both ships from the main gunline thousands of kilometres astern.

The Sepiterna had begun to spit huge, ship-killing bolts from its primary batteries.

The onrushing daemon ships wore the fusillade. Their shields wobbled like wet glass as they soaked up the punishment. They were half a million kilometres out, closing at a sharp angle to the system plane, as if they intended to perform a slashing strike down and across the Imperial gunline.
Gunline 'thousands' of km behind gunline, both frigates (Armaluke and Domino) exchange fire half a million km plus out at enemy fleet. Considering they engaged from much further out before this quote, it again emphasizes ship ranges were considerably greater than previous statements, and that the gunline itself has even greater range still (however we define 'thousands')

We knwo cruisers adn battleships by FFG and BFG terms have greater range than frigates, we could figure at least 1.5-2x that range, which is 750,000-1,000,000 km implied.




Page 146
Then the black shape proclaiming itself Necrostar Antiversal began to glow brightly from within, a red glare that started in its heart and spread through its tracery of red veins, straining with light and heat like a charred volcanic cone about to split and blow open under pressure from within.

A vast froth of red corposant enveloped the daemon ship’s prow, chained lightning that crackled and coiled like live snakes. With a sudden flash, the lightning boiled over and lanced a jagged red bolt out ahead of the ship, a whiplash discharge of immense aetheric energies.

The bolt wasn’t even a direct platform-to-target strike like a main plasma or laser weapon. The lash of it flew out sideways, wild and frenzied, untamed and unaimed. It coiled madly out into void space and only then whipped back towards a target, like a lightning strike jumping as it hunted for something to earth itself against.

The jagged, blinding discharge struck the Benedicamus Domino like the vengeance of a displeased god, blowing out its forward shields and exploding its upper decks. There was no sound. A snap shockwave of heat and debris ripped out from the impact, followed by a slow, widening ball of white light that was too hard to look at. Bridge viewers dimmed automatically. When the glare died, the Domino was revealed on fire and listing, sections of its upper structure and hull architecture annihilated or left glowing gold along burned edges.
Some sort of Chaos prow/spinal beam weapon. SEems powerful, but its hard to judge or measure.
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Part 2


Page 149-151
"I want a two-minute corrective burn to these adjusteds. All plasma engines."
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It was the absence of information that really gnawed at you. Only the shipmaster and the officers with access to the strategium feed had any real notion of what was going on outside, and then only if the Officer of Detection was doing a decent job. In a void fight, realspace ports shuttered and closed, and everything became feed only. Even if the ports had remained open, there was nothing to see. You were brawling with – and being fired upon by – an object that might be thousands of kilometres away in the interstellar blackness, and moving at a considerable percentage of the speed of light. There was the shake and terror of impacts, the raging engines, the cacophony of voices and data-chatter, but everything else was blind and far-removed, separated from the realm of the senses
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The monster Ominator had launched munitions at them. Deep-range warheads were rippling through the void at them on plasma wakes.
Implies at least 2-3 minutes or so for the projectiles (torpedoes) to hit. ASsuming between 20-1000 km/s estimated torpedo velocities (And no acceleration) range woudl be between 2400 km and 180,000 km estimated at this time. Given the implied ranges before, and the fact its 'beyond visual range' for much of the battle for all intents and purposes (given the size of vessels, tens of thousands of km likely) we're talking torps more in the high tens/low hundreds of km/s range (velocity wise) at least.


We also get the implied 'typical' depiction of combat, echoing sabbat martyr. 'considerable percentage' of lightspeed.. we might figure thousands or tens of thousands of km/s, although its sufficiently vague that we don't have as big a problem as Sabbat Martyr in that regard (the .75c+ 'attack velocity' implied.) Similar implications mind - given the implied ranges and velocities involved, projectile velocities (and we know plenty of projectile weapons mentioned here, missiles and rockets and solid/explosive projectiles) would be thousands/tens of thousands of km/s at least (consistent with the 'weapon battery' description form BFG, and bombardmetn cannon velocity from EH, etc.) Heck, the fact that combat can occur at 'fractions of lightspeed' means that they're used to impacts at those velocities NOT destroying the ship, meaning that velocities for projectile (the impact variety, esp) would be iwthin a magnitude of that. Its not even as excessive this time as Sabbat Martyr, as 1-10% of c (for example) would yield KEs in the tens or hundreds of megaton range (at least) to several gigatons (at the other end, say a 100 ton projectile or so moving at 10% of c)

I've heard complaints that this is the 'wrong' depiction of 40K combat, that it is 'unthematic' for the setting and more appropriate to more 'properly' sci fi settings (EG basically it only suits what an individaul defines as 'proper' sci fi) which is the typical argument of someone who tries to pigeonhole sci fi into one sort of 'makes sense' approach. It's certainly true this does NOT represent every example of combat (even ignoring BFG, which is often cited as the 'true' depiction despite the fact 40K has in some ways moved on since BFG days.) but its also true 40K combat is not as 'uniform' as many other sci fi universes depcit it. There is no inherent 'advantage' to relativistic (or even high hypervelocity) speeds over any other approach, it has certain advantages and disadvatnages (expenditure of time and energy, detectability, etc.) It DOES make sense in certain contexts - two fleets travelling towards each other across a system from either a destination planet or the warp emergence point, for example. Cases where this happen often depict space combat as some sort of jousting event, or age of sail... brief passes punctuated by prolonged periods of turning over long periods of times and distances (and thsu more time to build up to those 'horribly' high speeds.) Combat that occurs close to some celestial body or object won't be like that, of course, and a fair number of cases involve that (planetary asasult and defense..or heck even some distance out from planets - such as if the invading fleet was detected late and had gotten close to the planet after a long deceleration time, and the defending fleet mobilizes late.)

One must also remember that by some source (EG FFG) servitors, the machine spirit core of the ship, and psykers (astropaths, navigators) all contribute towards prosecuting ship to ship combat, and they offer myraid ways (active guidance, prediction, manipulation/mind control or influence, etc.) that targeting can be affected even at relativistic speeds. Obviously other factors - differences in how far a warp entry/exit point is depicted, the time and acceleration values ascribed to different feats, etc. can change that. some examples can match sabbat martyr, othres will feature week (or more) transit times between planets in a system (Gav Thorpe notable for this) and be distinctly NON relativistic. Overall there's room for all those depictions, as it can vary depending on the ships and technology, the opponents, and a myriad of other factors involved, so trying to ascribe one absolute 'combat dynamic' is pretty silly, since 40K does not work that way, and there is no one 'best' way to wage war (by Imperial standards at least) anyhow. Its as true of ground combat and its true of space combat.


Page 155
They were never going to make it. They were never going to turn in time. They were certainly not going to pull clear of the munitions spread rushing towards them. He had ordered counterfire to try to track and detonate some of the incoming torpedoes, but even with the detection systems on their side, it was like trying to hit an individual grain of sand with a bow and arrow during a hurricane. Another few moments and the enemy munitions would be sufficiently in-range to establish target lock and start to actively hunt them.

A warhead spread that large would demolish an unshielded hull like an eggshell.
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Aggressor Libertus was racing away from the solid Imperial gunline to offer support, but it was six or seven minutes away from being any use.

Spika adjusted the heading values and added nineteen seconds to the burn duration.
Mention of the warhead barrage launched desotrying an unshielded frigate, implying that the 'torpedoes' in this case may be something other than the huge, nasty torpedoes we're used to (which often launch in single digit salvoes, and generally ignore shields) Indeed the velocity of ushc 'missiles' argue they're much faster than typical torpedoes, which at 2 minutes or so (1000-2000 km/s) woudl be 'hundreds of thousands of km. If we figure 300-500 thousand km as a range and 2 minutes we get a 'velocity' between 2500-4200 km/s roughly, for example.

Also we see it takes 'minutes' for the ships to be closing the distances. ASsuming from a zero point accel, and single digit gees we get at least single/double digit km/s, although with implied accelerations elsewhere that could be correspondingly greater. (EG at the percenetns of lightspeed and hundreds/thousands of gees, we'r etalking hundreds or thousands of km/s over minutes.)



Page 156-157
There was nothing visible outside, just darkness. Not even stars. For all the commotion going on inside the Armaduke, there was apparently nothing to warrant it.
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"I suppose everything is too far away for us to see"
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He’d never really thought about the scale in those terms. He understand that the void was big, but he’d never imagined a situation where ships the size of the one they were travelling aboard could engage without being able to see each other.
The ship was the size of a city! How ridiculous was it to fight something so far away you couldn’t see it?
Scale of space cobmat, definitely beyond visual range. At least thousands, if not tnes of thousands of kilometres minimum.




Page 158
The plasma engines were exceeding the operational limit of their tolerances. Immeasurably old, and refitted more times than Spika cared to imagine, they were simply no longer able to develop maximum thrust from cold or low power at short notice.

The hull frame wasn’t up to it either. The Highness Ser Armaduke had never been an elegant or graceful ship, not even in the heyday of its youth, millennia before. It was dogged and robust, not agile.
Limts on ship's acceleration, either straight line or manuevering. THe engines can 'exceed' operational limits (whether this means safety limits, as in '80% of maxium power' or 'greater than 100% of power' we don't know) but they still take time to ramp up to full power, which is useful to know (although in this case its attributed to age rahter than inherent design.)

Also the ship is simply not designed for manuvering, but there's also evidently considerable strain on the hull from accelerating, which can be a non-trivial limit for how hard one can turn, move, etc. The really interesting thing is, we know they have gravity to compensate for the effects inside the ship, but apparently it doesn't extend to the hull. Or if it does, its alot less effective on the hull than on crew.




PAge 158
Crew members, especially hardwired servitors and serfs, were screaming as waves of techno-empathic pain gripped them.
Starship crews wired into the ship feel the damage the ship suffers. Again similar to what Titan operators are subjected to, suggesting significant MIU linkages.



Page 158
a high-function servitor at the environmental station burst apart in a spray of firefly sparks, the pressure slap shearing the metal plates from the skull beneath, revealing the bone and organic traces of the Imperial human who had forfeited his life to the augmetic processes of Navy service many standard lifetimes before.
High function servitor. Apparnetly they're somewhat between an augmetic/cyborg and a monotask/low functon servitor.. some sort of awarness seems ot exist.




PAge 158
A bulk servitor, a loader in the upper forward starboard magazine, suffered some kind of cerebrovascular crisis, and beat its reinforced head apart against a munitions silo wall. Hyper-strain triggered a convulsive fit in a precision drone serving the strategium, and its subtle haptic limbs began to thrash so rapidly they became a humming bird blur.
Munitions loading servitor, and a strategium servitor.




Page 159
The warheads, thirty of them, rained into the starboard side of the keeling ship, which had been knocked side-on into the path of the enemy by the first strike. Only wisps of shield remained. Two torpedoes detonated as they ploughed into the dense, glittering debris field that fogged the vacuum beside the Domino like a cloud of blood beside a floating body. Another triggered as it struck the hard, pressurised release of environment gases squirting through the Domino’s burst hull.

All three detonations, miniature starbursts too bright to look at, disappeared a moment later as the other twenty-seven warheads encountered the primary hull.
30 torpedoes launched by chaos escort (Destroyer) probably not the giant full sized torps we're used to more like broadside munitions (missiles, etc.) Obliterates unshielded frigate.




PAge 163
The killer pointed his lasrifle at Rawne to cut him apart.

Kolea’s first shot blew the gunman’s right arm off at the elbow, causing the dismembered limb and the lasrifle it was aiming to spin like a slow propeller. Kolea’s second shot blew out his chest in a splash of burned blood and splintered ribs.

Kolea’s third shot traumatically deformed his head far more significantly than anything the face-slip had achieved.

The killer went down, full length, felled like an old straight nalwood, leaving blood mist in the air behind him.
Lasfire from a rifle would 'cut rawne apart' whether literally or figuratively we dont know but it could go either way. Dismembering a human body implies considerable firepower though.

Kolea takes down Rawne's assailant in three shots. Blowing off the limb is at least single digit kj (a couple to blow through bone and such) possibly more if it overpenetrates. Seems to cauterize too, given absence of blood, unless the guy is augmetic (which might actually increase the yield as an augmetic human is tougher.)

blowing out human torso even partly is more impressive.. more probably double digit kj (or more, depending on parameters.) Last shot blows apart head (or nearly does so) single to double digit kj also.

I'm just going to note here - Meryn could have taken out the assassin and saved Yoncy (Kolea's daughter and Criid's step daughter) but he cowers in fear. Kolea, Criid and Daur (because Meryn insults Elodie) beat the shit out of him for that, and noone stands up for Meryn even watching it happen (and Hark does nothing about it.) Meryn's really not liked in the regiment, and its setting up for a nasty conflict down the road I suspect. Me, I like seeing Meryn get his ass beat, because he's a complete bastard in this book (moreso than in past books) and what redeeming traits we saw in previous books seem gone.33




Page 164
The Armaduke’s smaller, more nimble batteries and gun stations woke up, streaming beams and ripping, stuttering lines of las bolts up into the black. Barrels pumped in their arrestor sleeves as the gun mounts traversed hard, chasing the fast-moving attack ships.
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Battery fire pursued them. Spika saw one attack ship engulfed in flame, tumbling like a firework wheel under its own momentum. He also saw a battery go up, strafed into oblivion. Lights began to go dark across his master console, tiny individual lights among the thousands of system indicators. Prow battery 1123. Prow battery 96 (starboard). Keel battery 326 (centreline). Port tower 11. Environment hub 26 alpha (portside). Detection relay nine beta.
Implied battery numbers (although whether point defense, antiship or both, isnt specified. also point defence guns in action.



Page 164
..Spika saw Furies. The Imperial void fighters, all of them from the poor Domino’s fighter screen..
Whether escorting it or native fighters we dont know, I'm guessing the former given its an escort.



Page 165
Spika’s attention was on the Ominator. It had clearly not grown tired of saying its own name. Instruments estimated about nine minutes to firing point at their current intercept rate. Spika shook that off. More like seven or six and a half. The Ominator was hasty and hungry. It wanted to get a lick in before the Armaduke was shielded again, and before the storming bulk of the Aggressor Libertus came charging in from the rear line. The Aggressor Libertus was already trading long-range punches with the Necrostar Antiversal as it accelerated.
6.5-9 minutes of acceleratoin burn to reach target ranges again. At 10-100 gees 39-540 km/s estimated velocity assuming standing stop.





Page 165-166
There was a stuttering pulse as the void shield generators cycled into life. Deck lights dipped all the way into brown-out and back as onboard power was briefly refocused. Shielding crackled into being around the advancing Armaduke, forming blistering fields of immaterium distortion. Several Furies, late leaving the side of the Armaduke, tumbled, lights out and power gone, their systems temporarily blanked by contact with the defence fields. Four of the Archenemy’s small hunter-ships detonated, crushed against the expanding shields, their drive plants destroyed by some allergic, alchemical interaction.
Void shield activation. Abnett seems to be treating them as warp based now as well. They repel matter (destroying chaos attack craft and knocking out furies.) Activation at least, seems lethal to targets, but




Page 166
Static coated every surface; he presumed that was a side effect of the void shields. He’d seen it in buildings and ground vehicles close to active Titans.
Most of all he could feel the fight inside him, in his gut, his inner ear, his kinaesthetic sense. He could sense the soundless, invisible pull and twist and wrench of inertial compensation. The gravitic systems were fighting to maintain the environmental status quo as the ship lurched and came about.
Inertial compensation linked to gravitic systems maintaining artificial gravity (stability rather) around ship manuvers and accelerations. It seems fairly rapid adjustment, but not perfect, as we've seen from many novels. This too can explain why 40K starshisp do not achieve 'max' thrust instantly but build up to it as described earlier in the book, because the engines have to be linked to these systems for safety reasons (EG not to kill crew.) Although in some context I think 'inertial' can mean different from gravity (EG the Caestus as later.)




Page 166
Shields raised, the Armaduke began to power past the Domino towards the onrushing Ominator. Aggressor Libertus followed on, about sixty kilometres astern and twenty to starboard.

"Clear the missile tubes!" Spika commanded. "Main batteries, main mounts – firing solutions on the designated target now."

He focused the primary rangefinder on the Ominator.
Tempest class frigate armament, and spacing of allied Imperial warships.




Page 168
He could make out a distant, repetitive thumping, masked by the engine throb, the steady chug of a machine rotating or cycling.
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"That’s the ship’s primary magazine delivering munitions at the fastest possible continuous pace," said Eadwine. "We are unloading everything we have at a sustained rate. We are trying to kill something very big."
The solid munitions launchers (cannon, missile tubes, etc.) on the ship apparently rely ons ome osrt of mechanical/machine based cycling or loading, and it can be varied in speed (with probable tradeoffs) to accomodate any given situation.




Page 169
Any attempt to hard turn out of the tactical lock would have consumed vast amounts of its power reserve and de-positioned it hopelessly in the battlesphere alignment.
Starships seem to run on power reserves, rahter than solely off reactor power. Whehter this reflects limitations in the power transfer systems, the ability of Imperail starships to fight beyond their power generation limits (by storing up and releasing the power, eg beam weapons) or a combination of both perhaps we dont know.




PAge 169-170
Advancing steadily, the Armaduke and the Libertus exchanged a brief non-verbal signal and began to hose fire at the enemy ship. Two streams of bombardment ripped out from the Imperial pair, converging like the lines of some infernal diagram on the Ominator. The streams were traceries of pulsed and beamed energy weapons, the unified output of hundreds of batteries slaved to the master tracking cogitators. Heavy ordnance systems spat torrents of hard shell munitions, missiles, ship-to-ship ballistic charges and bombard rockets.

The Ominator soaked it up without breaking stride, taking the titanic barrage from the Libertus against its forward port shields and the destructive abuse of the slightly extended Armaduke across its starboard side and belly.

'Hundreds' of weapons batteries (which itself ar emultiple guns) slaved to 'master tracking cogitators', also implying perhaps the ships are synchronizing targeitng data.

Also the battery count is just for energy weapons it seems (both pulsed and beamd - which I gather is continous) types - presumably the continuous ar elances. Also plenty of projectiles of various types (kinetic, explosive unguided and guided, rocket assisted, etc.) probably in roughtly the same quantities as the energy guns too.



Page 170
Two gunners aboard the Libertus were killed by recoil trying to service the hard batteries fast enough, and an artificer aboard the Armaduke was burned to death by an overheating laser assembly.
Drawbacks of highly sustained fire rates.



Page 170
Its drive failed. Its plant failed. Its reactors failed. It became, in a second or two, an inert, dead lump of black machine junk, scorched and holed.
Chaos escort has reactors AND drives to provide power, and whatever the 'planet' is.




Page 171
Sepiterna, an almost stationary island more than ten kilometres long, reached out to deny the obdurate intruder. Beam weapons, red sparks in the brown twilight of the void, found and neutralised the running missiles, igniting quick bright flashes of white fire. Then the principal weapon fired, and slapped the charging Archenemy vessel sideways. Necrostar Antiversal spun away, all stability control lost. Its port bow section glowed with a fierce internal blaze, and atomised structural debris squirted from its lurching bulk.
Size of the Sepiterna, an oberon class battleship. They're known as a 'generalist' battleship - less carrier capacity than Emperors, less firepower than retributions, etc. but able to do a bit of everything. I'm guessing they're somewhere between Emperor and Retributions in terms of size, but we know from FFG that Emperor-class can be 10km, IIRC, and Retributions have been smaller (Dark Disciple.)





Page 171-172
Shipmaster Spika was aware that his artificers were desperate to lower shields. Sustaining them at maximum was depleting the reserves at a nightmarish rate.
Implies that maximum shields cannot be maintained indefintely, as it drains power reserves. This suggests that Imperial starships have the capacity ot 'go beyond' limits imposed by reactors at least for brief periods based on stored power - either to maximize shields, guns, or perhaps even engines without compromising the drive's power allocation. It is a finite resource however, and can deprive you significantly depending on what you do with it.

If you can boost engines that way, it could explain acceleration discrepancies.




Page 172
They fought like animals in traps, like wounded rogue beasts cornered in a canyon, like predators in the forest gloom. They ignored logic, or technical comparatives, or the output of threat assessment cogitators.
Even Chaos starships are unpredictable. Also, threat assessment cogitators




Page 172
But the Rex was fast. It was the single biggest vessel involved in the fleet action; not as stately and deep through the waist as the majestic Sepiterna, but longer and of significantly greater tonnage. It accelerated, however, like a frigate. A light frigate. It was quite the nimblest supermassive Spika had seen since the Palodron Campaign against the diseased craftworld.
Implied agility of a Chaos battleship. Implies either magic or considerably huge powerplants,

Also the term 'supermassive' which refers to alot of large battleships.



Page 173
The Sepiterna spurred its whole gunline forwards, but it was a gesture that would have little practical effect in the timeframe. The Aggressor Libertus, a significant ship in its own right, began firing as it turned, loosing as much as it could at the oncoming monster. The daemon ship’s shields held firm. The Libertus’s barrage, enough to strip a hive down to the mantle, spattered off the voidshields like firecrackers.
An interesting variation on the 'starships can demolish cities' in the sense it can decimate a hive 'to the mantle' Whether this is a hive city or a hive world, we don't know, although context and conservatism would suggest city. How big a hive is again up for debate, given they can be as small as kilometers across (like as presented in Necromunda) to upwards of spanning continents. 'to the mantle' also implies it is blasting out the crust underneath as well (tens of kilometeres of rock, at least.) Without a doubt its certainly at least high megaton/low gigaton range for firepower (even just based on blasting the crust in all likelihood) Which is consistent with the FFG's depiction of grand cruisers nuking continents (although some would point to the 'tetrajoules' quote as a contradiction, of course.. :P)



Page 173
Spika felt its shadow on them. It overhauled them, blotting out the sun, a leviathan ten or twelve times their size. Every sensor on the Armaduke’s bridge screamed. Every alarm sounded. Spika instructed his gun crews to unload everything they had.
Size of Chaos Battleship compared to frigate. If it means mass, then the battleship might mass a good 70-100 megatonnes, whilst if its length we're talking perhaps 15-20 km.





Page 179
"‘It’s no bigger than a gun cutter, but it is massively armoured, and it will need a station of its own or your inertials and gravitics will suffer."
Astatres vechile (caestus) is no bigger than a gun cutter, and has 'inertials and gravitics.'




Page 181
"We used to go to war," a voice said from beside him, "and launch a thousand of these into the void, a hundred thousand, to demolish a fleet."
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"But there are not many left," Holofurnace said, uttering what seemed like a heartfelt sigh as he gazed at the craft. "Like us, I suppose. I miss those days. The Great Wars. Can you imagine, ten thousand of those launching from a supermassive?"
I'm not sure what the 'Great Wars' refer to (can't be the heresy, too long ago.) but apparently the Caestus (the vehicle being talked about) is comparatively rare since these Wars 'like the marines' themselves. It may be it refers to the Crusade itself, the 'great wars' in the early days, and that the marines and their equipment in the crusade have been depleted in the intervening years, but that's just my guess.

Also definition of the largest Imperial ships (battleships and battlebarges) as 'supermassive'. Abnett introduces alot of interesting terminology in this book, lasmen, supermassive, trancemissionary, and this is another.




Page 181-182
"The boy will ruin me. I want him gone. Pack your things and escort him off this ship. Transfer to the fleet and passage will be arranged back to Verghast."
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"He will ruin me," Gaunt repeated, "so I hardly care for your opinion. That fight began and suddenly all I could think of was that my son – my son! – might be in danger! The thought unmanned me. I came to find him. I–"
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"That’s the point. He’s my son and I’m going to care about him, even though I barely know him, and didn’t know he even existed until this voyage began. He’s my flesh and blood, and having him here damages me."
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"Your concern for him will compromise your ability to lead. It will undermine your confidence. It will make you fallible and perhaps force command or tactical decisions that are unwise. It could weaken you, and soften you, and take your edge away."
Its interesting to see Gaunt develop a parental streak, although its another indicator of him slipping down that slope away from 'Good Imperial Commissar.' Whats more is he's right, it does compromise him. It gives him something other than the Ghosts to obsess and fixate over, and that I suspect is part of the problem - he can't be torn between his duty to his regiment - the regiment he has devoted himself to for so long, and a newly-discovered offspring. He tries to be distanta nd uncaring, but that's not really in his nature. Gaunt is too humane, and that extends to his kid, and that danger he speaks of is real. Unfortunately its not a battle he will win.

I'll note in this scene Gaunt has sex with his son's bodyguard and has been drinking heavily.. we seem to see Gaunt sliding back to his Honour Guard days (and before).. I guess part of this might stem from Balhaut.

This development is also interesting because Blenner was advising Wilder the Younger to ignore his brother, because the Guard has no room for family (except the Guard.) Gaunt seems to be breaking that rule (which will cause divisions as some like the asshole Meryn see Gaunt as favoring the son.) Abnett has within two novels now sown a whole slew of new conflicts within the regiment.

Oh and to top it off, Curth, who has just saved Dorden from dying, comes to tell Gaunt and finds him having slept with said Bodyguard, and is angrry/jealous/hurt over that. Curth and Gaunt have had quite a bit of romantic and sexual tension between them for a long while now, which came to a head at Gereon.. but also never went anywhere after that. And now its taken even greater strain.... Gaunt is really not a ladies man and this scene also shows that lol.







Page 197
"We’re decelerating into the Rimworld Marginals," Spika told Gaunt and Eadwine. "Navigation has confirmed our realspace position and vector. Sixteen hours of deceleration into the gravimetric plane of this junk system, and then another five as we close on the target location. From this point we are running battle-ready and shields lit; this is a vox-silent phase."
Sixteen hour deceleration from the edge of the system, which I'll assume is the mandeville point. At 20 million km, it would be 2-3 gees and 780 km/s max speed. At 3 AU (emergence point of daemon fleet implied) we'd be talking 50-60 gees and around 4-6% of lightspeed top velocity. IF we figure 15-20 AU (half our solar system radius approx) we're talking 200-400 gees maybe and 20%-35% of c max velocity.






Page 198
A large, gridded sub-frame extended from the port sill to cover the bulk of the window space. It was made of thick armaglass, and inlaid with hololithic sensors and actuators. The frame was thick with armoured trunking and clusters of small repeater screens and secondary monitors. It lit, igniting a graphic overlay of luminous green across its grid, which quickly began to section and analyse. Bands of colour-coded sensory data spiked up the edges of the main grid and across the repeater screens. Columns of text data played out. Spika fine-tuned his controls, centred the main green crosshairs on the bloom of light, and began to enhance and magnify the area until the hololithic pict image filled the grid and blocked out the real view.
What seems to be an overlay over the armoued bridge windows that provides tactical data and suchlike, both hololithic and to the repeater screens.





PAge 204
The Space Marines had donned specialist armour that had been transferred aboard during the conjunction: ancient, ornate suits of boarding armour, precious relics from the most ancient times. Each suit of plate was decorated in the bearer’s Chapter colours. They were the engraved, polished works of master artificers, worn and gleaming, massively layered and reinforced for defence; Gothic, crested and shivering with purity seals. Each warrior carried a huge boarding shield in the form of a half-aquila.
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Their helms had visors like portcullis gates.
Boarding armour. Mark 3 type maybe? And boarding shields. Next best thing to terminator armor in boarding actions.





PAge 208
At the place known as Salvation’s Reach, the junk belt was at its thickest: a monumental agglomeration of debris almost two hundred thousand kilometres deep at its thickest. Part of it was planetary debris: rocks, dust and other mineral effluent forming solid masses like gallstones or bezoars. Some of it, however, was artificial in origin.
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Legend said that Salvation’s Reach had been the name of the Imperial flagship, a flagship that had stood its ground under astonishing enemy fire and died with all hands, holding the line long enough for the Saint’s victory to be achieved. Legend said that the debris accumulated in the junk belt was the wreckage of that titanic fleet action, the battlefield litter of one of the Rim’s greatest realspace engagements.

Other legends said that Salvation’s Reach was the name of a planet, destroyed during that void fight. Different legends said it was the name of the Archenemy supermassive that had finally been scuppered just minutes before it target-locked the Saint’s cruiser.

In Spika’s opinion, none of the legends were any better than half-truths. The debris field included a great deal of space war junk, but it was the accumulated residue of thousands of fights accidentally clustered here, not the devastation left by one fight at this location.
Size of the Reach debris field, and also legends associated with it, including an enemy supermassive and a planet destroyed during the engagement, althoubh both are considered by at least one Navy officer to be half-myth.





Page 209
It was the most recent schematic of Salvation’s Reach extracted by mnemonic probe from the mind of Gaunt’s prisoner.
Mnemonic probe.




Page 210
He protected his mind through the conditioned resolve of someone who has both taken and broken the Bloody Pact, and through a variety of engrammatic codings. Before quitting the service of the Archenemy, he had layered into his mind data concerning the Salvation’s Reach facility using a cerebral encrypter; information that could not simply be stripped out, but could only be recovered by methodical and repeated meditation.
Memory storage/encryption for the defector. Seems ot be useful and probably psychic.



Page 214
Spika had been obliged to cancel and mute all the proximity alarms, and fundamentally adjust the ship’s inertial stability to counteract the gravimetric load. The ship itself seemed to sense that the manoeuvre was wrong.
..
Spika killed the drives and correction thrusters. He activated the magnetic clamps and inertial anchors.
Boarding the Reach. Mag clamps and inertial 'anchors' to secure themselves to the planetoid, although it probably is meant normally for docking operations and similar. Also mention of 'inertial stability' and 'gravimetric load' which I suspect are inertial dampers/antigravitic




Page 217
Behind it came the first of the assault carriers: Arvus-pattern craft, both long and standard body variants, followed by four Falco boats.
Guard boarding craft. Note that there are two distinct variants of Arvus pattern.




PAge 220-221
Eight seconds from the cliff-face, the missile batteries mounted on the Caestus’s wings unloaded their blistering shoals of micro-missiles. At the same time, the magna-melta cannon mounted between the ram booms discharged.

The radiant blast of the heat cannon puckered and warped the metal cliff face. The airgate hatch structure bubbled and liquefied, spurting a geyser of white-hot blobs into the void like silt disturbed from the bed of a pond. The epicentre of the hit was left as an oozing sore of white hot metal, a glowing crater that almost penetrated the reinforced hull skin.

Less than a second later, the spread of Firefury micro-warheads impacted, a saturation strike that annihilated the already compromised fabric of the airgate.
..
It punched through the expanding fireball, burning into the hold-space at maximum velocity.
we know its 4 m thick, if we figure a hemispherical are blasted out (4 m deep, 8 md iameter) or a 4x4x4 m area vaped its between 64 cubic metres and 100 cubic metres

Assuming iron its between 504,000 and 787,000 kg which is between 605 and 945 GJ to 'melt' through. Thats roughly consistent with a high end melta/low end fighter grade weapons so ti works.




Page 225
The Hades was a siege engine, a boring drill designed for sapping and trench warfare.
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Cutting through what amounted to the hull of a starship was not a conventional use, but it was the quickest and most expedient way in that the tactical planners had been able to devise. The Hades’s huge cutting head, a four-part breaching instrument of interlocked, diamantine-tipped rotary power cutters, was mounted on the front of the tank chassis and adjusted by a powerful frame of piston drivers. The power cutters bit from the outside in, so that shredded material passed into the maw between the cutters, down a conveyer belt that ran through the middle of the machine like a digestive tract, and was ejected as spoil through the rear.
..
Deep in that throat, above the belt, was a melta-cutter positioned to weaken and blast the target solids into consumable slag.
Hades drill, being used in this case for impromptu breaching/boarding ops.




Page 226
The Hades operator still applied ferocious heat using the melta, because it was essential for the hull fabric to be soft enough for the teeth to bite. But it was also essential to keep the power cutters cool enough not to fuse and, more importantly, damp down and emulsify the clouds of micro-fine, ultra-sharp spalling that was coming off the cut in clouds like dust. If that got into eyes or throats, if that was inhaled into lungs, it would kill a man through catastrophic micro-laceration.
Significant danger of Hades drill.



Page 226
"Density scans show just over three metres,"
Estimated thickness of hull, eighteen minutes to cut through. Other boarding section takes twenty eight minutes, because its tougher to drill through.



Page 227
Bolt rounds banged out, destroying sensors, auto-defence units, potential items of cover. Spent shell cases tumbled in the air.
Bolters that eject casings. Again :P




Page 228
Sar Af noted the context of the impacts, the shrapnel marks and cuts, analysing instantly.
Loxatl flechetes not penetrationg Space Marine shields. There's at least seventy so far.





Page 229
He carried his lasrifle and a tall oblong boarding shield that looked like the lid of a coffin.
Ghosts are using boarding shields this time around too, or at least Kolea's bunch are,



Page 232
The rain of fire from the xenos became torrential. Flechette rounds detonated all around the advancing Space Marines in razorbursts. Eadwine felt ultra-sharp splinters slice off his armour. One actually punctured the ceramite. He felt it dig into the meat of his thigh. The sheer shot rate and penetrative effect of the loxatl blasters would finish them. Even three of the Adeptus Astartes would be brought to their knees, and then their deaths, by such a deluge.
Loxatl rounds can even penetrat eAstartes plate, eventually at least or if they get lucky. There are 180 of them now firing on 3 Space Marines. Soon rises to 270+




Page 232-233
Sar Af put a single bolt through the loxatl’s skull before it could rise. Its brain matter splattered across the deck, and its massive, blue-grey trunk and tail went into muscle spasms.
...
Sar Af slugged them out of the air with bolt rounds, blowing open skulls and ribcages, severing whip tails, showering the fight zone with meat and viscera.
Bolt fire vs Loxatl.




Page 234
They fired up into the roof of the stowage bay and razor shrapnel from the flechette rounds burst through the floor of the pilot’s position, shredding Terek-8-10’s legs and groin. He felt the ice-pain of tiny hypervelocity metal shards travelling up through his torso, bursting organs, severing augmetics, and liquidising blood vessels.
Loxatl rounds are hypervelocity. ASsuming they mass between .5-.6 grams (8-10 grain) at 2-3 km/s roughly, you get between 1-2.7 kj per shot roughly speaking. Considering that they fire 1000 rounds per burst, thats over 1-3 MJ per shot potentially, momentum would be some 1000-1800 kg. either they have some sort of recoil compensation or Loxatl are quite bulky/strong.





Page 238
Kolea hefted his shield up and started to run. The shields had barrel slots cut in the top right-hand corner of their shapes, so the wearer could carry the shield on his left arm and brace the weight of his lasrifle barrel across the slot. Effectively, he could fire from behind cover. Kolea hadn’t used a boarding shield in combat before, but they’d been training hard en route. He still believed they were cumbersome and ineffective.
..
. A crippled loxatl flopped out of hiding into their path and ratcheted off two shots with its flechette. Kolea’s shield stopped the first, and the second blew up against the deck. Derin’s shield saved his legs and groin from the deflected splinters of shrapnel. Firing from behind his shield, Kolea slew the loxatl with a burst of shots.

His attitude towards the boarding shields warmed slightly. In the enclosed space of boarding action, the danger of deflection shots was dramatically increased.
Guard issue boarding shields. They seem to lcosely resemble the Arbites riot shields -with slots to lock the rifle into for supporting both weapon and shield in both hands, allowing mobile cover to fire behind. And they're very effective against blocking flechettes, which gives a big advantage over just body armor in these cases.



Page 242
. The edges of the cut were bright silver metal, whorled and flaked like shredded foil. Approaching, Gaunt could see the cut was under four metres deep.
Hull four metres thick actually.




Page 242-243
Beside him, Domor adjusted his headphones and extended the sweeper broom of his detector set. Gaunt could hear the sweeper’s little portable auspex ticking like a radiation counter.
..
Domor swept steadily to and fro, passing his broom across the walls and low ceiling. Gaunt could see the blue glow of his set’s display screen. The ticking was steady.
..
"I’m calibrating," said Domor. "There’s a lot of bounce. So many different densities and intermixed alloys."
..
A quick look at the walls and ceiling showed extraordinary levels of gross compaction, with structural fabric and mechanisms crushed along with circuits and energy filaments into scrap filler. Getting any meaningful discrimination through the auspex was going to be a challenge.
Domor's auspex and the problems of calibrating inside the Reach. Seems like Domor's little minesweeping device has also upgraded to full auspex in the series :P

Also it has a visual as well as the audio displays. And it can show a wide variety of information too.




Page 244
Domor scanned ahead, adjusted his settings, and then did it again.
..
"I’m getting something now. The deck plates ahead are hollow. Wait… yes, feth. I’ve got cables, active-fluid hydraulics and an electric charge. We’ve got a pressure trigger. The deck’s live."
Domor's auspex can detect traps, as well as identify them in pretty good detail - I wonder if its a combination of some active and passive detection? Hence the ability to detect cables and stuff. Maybe its sonar and passives?




Page 244
"The sniffer’s getting fyceline and promethium gel," said Domor. "About a tonne volume."
..
A tonne of fyceline compound explosive would create an overpressure blast in the confined environment that would suck through the narrow apertures of the compartments, pulp their internal organs to soup and their bones to jelly, and probably burst the improvised atmosphere seal between the Armaduke and the Reach.
Not calcable directly, but we learn that theres an explosive compound (which Gaunt is familiar with) made of fyceline and promethium gel. Given the energy densities of both and that they do create blast effects of some kind, it might pack quite a punch. We're probably not talking about a true FAE, but it may very well be comparable in power to one - we know from the Munitorum manual, after all, that Fyceline can be made into alcohol, and promethium is a fuel of some kind, both of which tend to have considerably more energy per gram/kilogram than TNT does.



Page 244-245
Mkoll pulled a scope that matched the one screwed to the top rail of Larkin’s rifle. The chief scout put it to his eye, and Larkin raised his weapon, hunting.
..
...Mkoll, training his scope. He had it set to low light. "Got it. I see the trigger pin. The cable’s cleated up the wall along the bulkhead seam. It goes in at the top of the left-hand drum."
...

Mkoll crouched beside him, and activated the passive tagger on his scope, so that the pencil-thin light beam indicated the precise target. As shot caller, Mkoll wanted to make sure he and Larkin were both appreciating and agreeing upon the same exact spot.

"Got it," said Larkin, locking up his scope.
An interesting set of toys. Mkoll has a scope that provides some sort of tagging/marking beam, apparently has a low light mode, and can be used to track/detect a speicfic target. Larkin's bolt action rifle's scope can 'lock in' to that tagger signal. Sort of like Tau markerlights, or a targeter.





Page 245
They had eighteen Tauros assault vehicles ready and laden with spare munitions, with further re-stocks prepared on cargo pallets.
The Ghosts making use of Tauros as resupply and cargo vehicles.




Page 252
Whatever flaw or imperfection, whatever ultra-hard seam of adamantium or ceramite in the hullskin had been snagging the drill-head, it finally and abruptly gave way.
..
Racing, the power-cutters scythed sideways into the rim of the borehole and sheared away a large chunk of hyperdense metal, which it shredded into razor-fine fibres and slivers..
..
The flying metal shards blew back with the penetrative force of a dozen loxatl flechette blasters...
Ultra hard adamntium/ceramite, and also 'ultradense'. Also described as flechette like in lethalty.




PAge 257
Electromagnetic distortion from the torrential gunfire, especially the hellguns and plasma weapons fielded by the Sons, was chopping all vox exchanges.
Chaos gunfire, esp energy weapons, causes EM interference in voxes. This may suggest they are (or give off) EM energy, or at least the interaction wit hthe atmosphere can fuck with that.,




Page 257
Heavy, clacking fire, some of tracer rounds, zipped from .30s and .50s. Baskevyl’s company..
.30 and .50 cal support weapons. Again.




Page 260
The White Scar, Sar Af, appeared out of the smoke, driving the breaking Archenemy troopers in front of him. He was blasting with his boltgun, disrupting their unit cohesion and driving their line around so that it buckled and withered under the Ghosts’ fire.
..
"What is keeping you?" Sar Af bellowed.

"We were occupied," Kolea yelled back.

"With what?"

"The usual," shouted Kolea.

Sar Af shrugged his huge shoulderplates. He turned and blasted bolt rounds into the weakened enemy positions to his right.

"Come on if you are coming!" he yelled. "We will not wait any longer. I told Eadwine I would come back to find out if you had a good excuse for not keeping up."
"Like what?"

"Like being dead! Now come on, Emperor curse you!"
told you I liked the White Scar marine in this novel. Badass AND funny.




Page 262
. Vahgner put the tagger back on the firing pin screwed into the top of the boxes.
..
Merrt lined up and locked his scope to the tagger Vahgner was supplying.
Again the scopes seem to work together to provide accurate targeting data, one locking into the signal of the other.




Page 273-274
The scout took out his scope and put the tagger beam on the trigger mechanism, which stuck out of the bundle under the bridge like a spigot.

"Got it?" Preed asked.
"Yes," said Raess, setting his rifle scope.
..
"We’ll plug both sets of range parameters into our scopes so I can take the shot, load and switch to the second."
Again scopes relaying and providing accurate targeting data. Apparnetly oyu can set multiple parameters into the scopes as well.




Page 278
His head vanished in a pink mist.

Larkin had made the shot from the main entry. He hadn’t even had time to take out his longlas and put away his rifle. He had simply slotted a hard round into the old gun’s breech.
Bolt action rifle headsplodes. Maybe at least full power rounds.



Page 281
Preed lined the tagger up on the second trigger cap quickly.
..
He reset his scope and locked on the point that Preed was tagging.
Scout/Sniper scope combo again




PAge 289
Gaunt watched for a moment, and then went to the analysis console. It was a battered but recognisable Imperial cogitator. Gaunt pulled out his data-slate and connected it to the console’s memory socket. He began to export the console’s archived data. The screen of the slate flickered as information flowed into it.
Gaunt downloading information from a cogitator into his data slate.



Page 295
Vahgner’s blood spattered Daur’s face. The scout fell backwards, dead, his head destroyed by a las round.
..
There were a dozen of them, firing rifles and pistols.
Either laspistol or rifle round destroys human head. single, perobably double digit kj depending on level of destruction (EG complete destruction rather than just blowing out half or back of the head.



Page 296
A second later, he felt searing pain. A sledgehammer of momentum hit him in the chest and knocked him over.
..
His chest was a bloody mess.
Merrt hit, bad.


PAge 296
A shot blew his throat out in a spray of blood.
Round of some kind blows out Ghost's neck.




Page 297
A piercing plasma weapon beam blew the leading officer apart.
HArk's plasma pistol again. Greande level damage.



Page 298
" Merrt’s chest wound is severe. His heart is damaged."
Mertt seems badly hurt, although quantifiyng it is hard (no idea of the weapon for one thing..)



Page 306
"From the looks of it, Meryn pulled back too fast," said Baskevyl, checking the tactical display on Rerval’s vox-caster. "He’s let enemy units get in behind him. They’re coming out of the depot under enemy fire. Not the neatest extraction I’ve ever seen."
Vox units carry tactical displays that can relay situatal data about other units.. their locations and status too it seems - at least enough data to know where they are, who they are, and what enemies they may be facing.




Page 309
"Hey!" Merrt yelled, snuggling the rifle in. "Hey, you bastards! You know what? I used to be a gn… gn… gn… great marksman. I had a fething lanyard. Not any more, though. These days, I aim at something, I miss it every time! You understand? I’m not a very gn… gn… gn… good shot!’"
Last stand of Merrt and Dorden. Merrt has with the help of a Space Marine (Sar Af and Larkin) regained his ability to be a marksman, although he is dying. Dorden as we know is also dying, and has decided to die doing his duty. Merrt's last shot is typical of his previous accuracy (it misses shit) but it still sets off an explosion, which is a better way to go than either he or Dorden could have otehrwise expected (although 'good way to die' is pretty low standards, methinks.)

Oddly I'm not as touched by Dorden or Merrt's death than Caffrans. Dorden was a tragic figure and one of the longest serving deaths yet, but you've had time to prepare for it. Also its odd because Dorden has had more of a central role compared to the other Ghosts like Bragg or Caffran. But he's.. tired I think. Tired of war. He's lost his real son, his unofficial son (Corbec), he's seen too much, seen too many of his kinsmen die. I think really I feel its better for him to end, and rejoin those waiting for him. He's done all he can for the Ghosts.

As a counterpoint to this we learn just how big a bastard Meryn is, as he leaves behind five of his own men to cover his tracks with regards to his illegal activities in the regiment. They are toruted and butchered by loxatl. He has officially crossed over into Cuu territory.




Page 313
"The most valuable lifeguards of House Chass receive very sophisticated body modification. Maddalena’s face and voice, they were designed to resemble my mother’s. The similarity was supposed to reassure and comfort me. I imagine it has an effect on you too."
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So we have the big discovery of why he fucked the bodyguard, because she looks like Merity Chass. Which suggests Gaunt may still harbor feelings for the woman. Which complicates this in all manner of ways, because how does he really feel about the bodyguard (she must know, and how does she feel about that.) And then there's the whole Curth/Gaunt thing, which is complicated even more because Blenner and Curth have grown closer (Friendship is indicated, drinking companions, but nothing more is definite although it seems to be hinting that direction.)

And Gaunt is getting to know his son, as everyone has suggested, he's even acting parental ('what are you doing here?' during the fight,b ecause he's worrying about the kid just like he knew he would.)

Gaunt, it seems, is building himself quite a little family unit without realizing it. Maddalena (the bodyguard) is the mother figure obviously, the Chass stand in for Gaunt and his son.... and of course the father and son. More complications in Gaunt's life. And the whole 'hero' thing for Vervunhive complicates it on so many levels, as does the son/father dynamic affect how things will go with the regiment.

Its also interesting to contrast Gaunt and his son with Criid/Kolea and Dalin. We know both Tona and Gol worry about Dalin, but they seem to largely accept that he is a trooper and the consequneces that means. Gaunt still has to learn that it seems, although it is interesting to speculate whether its his fears (or what happens if Chass's heir dies) for the kid, or the whole 'newness' of the situation affecting him. Criid at least had time to grow into being a mother, Kolea to accept his children still lived and were with the regiment... Gaunt is literally being thrown into the deep end.
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Connor MacLeod wrote: Page 117
“The Cadogus Fifty-Second has deployed in total strength configuration. Twenty thousand men, plus armour and artillery, along with battlefield psykers. "
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"Five companies of mechanised infantry will be arriving in the next three days. Full support. "
The CAdogus 52nd.. very much a combined arms force with apparently organic infantry, artillery, and armour. At least partly mechanised (5 companies, prboably more) and they have Valks if we go by the previous assessment. Reminds me very much of the Jourans from Storm of Iron, or the Jantine, or the Volpone for tha tmatter.
Providing high-quality formations seems like a good idea for a few reasons. First, Cadogus/Joura/Jant/Volpone can barter its superior product in any number of ongoing warzones. Second, they can handle their own logistics. You don't mention the regiment or so of Enginseers that would accompany this type of formation, so that's a player cut out right there. These two translate into leverage, favors and ultimately prestige, which mark the world out as special.

Having established their special status and made some friends, these planets can gather additional influence to ensure that their present bureacratic relatioship continues. The worst possible thing would be to fall into the same category as Krieg or Cadia, enserfed to the Munitorum. To do this would probably entail raising a number of units below the infamous TOTAL WAR footing to inflate their value, but not so low as to be unable to have a Regiment available should a Warmaster need one.

Thus, the overall number of uberRegiments would be less than it could be purely in material terms, but is probably optimal for the political situation of the planet of origin, and also why they'd figure heavily in the Armies of someobody with serious influence. Both sides want to be present because it's a win-win in both political and functional terms.
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I'm not sure what the 'Great Wars' refer to (can't be the heresy, too long ago.) but apparently the Caestus (the vehicle being talked about) is comparatively rare since these Wars 'like the marines' themselves. It may be it refers to the Crusade itself, the 'great wars' in the early days, and that the marines and their equipment in the crusade have been depleted in the intervening years, but that's just my guess
Just a note - the only other place I've ever seen the Caestus is, in fact, the Horus Heresy. The Iron Snake may in fact be referring to the Heresy and the Great Crusade prior to it.

As for how the Iron Snakes could have been alive for 10,000 years, there's growing evidence to show that they might have indeed been a Second Founding chapter and some of their original officers had fought during the Heresy. "Notable Damocles", who was the original commander of Priad's squad in Brotherhood of the Snake, is mentioned (complete with his snake insignia) in Know No Fear where he's an Ultramarines Captain.
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Falkenhayn wrote:Providing high-quality formations seems like a good idea for a few reasons. First, Cadogus/Joura/Jant/Volpone can barter its superior product in any number of ongoing warzones. Second, they can handle their own logistics. You don't mention the regiment or so of Enginseers that would accompany this type of formation, so that's a player cut out right there. These two translate into leverage, favors and ultimately prestige, which mark the world out as special.

Having established their special status and made some friends, these planets can gather additional influence to ensure that their present bureacratic relatioship continues. The worst possible thing would be to fall into the same category as Krieg or Cadia, enserfed to the Munitorum. To do this would probably entail raising a number of units below the infamous TOTAL WAR footing to inflate their value, but not so low as to be unable to have a Regiment available should a Warmaster need one.

Thus, the overall number of uberRegiments would be less than it could be purely in material terms, but is probably optimal for the political situation of the planet of origin, and also why they'd figure heavily in the Armies of someobody with serious influence. Both sides want to be present because it's a win-win in both political and functional terms.
The tradeoff being that such formations are much more vulnerable if they turn traitor (the whole reason for the dividing up was to complicate betrayals, after all.) That may reflect why so many of them are 'noted/famed' regiments like the Tallarn or Cadians. I'd also be willing to wager this is more likely done during routine raisings from higher-tech worlds, or worlds that naturally have multiple regimental types (they can rase infantry, artillrey and armoured.) Either they mix and match them post-raising or they found them as combined arms formations from the beginning (IA3 suggests the latter, but the former is certainyl within the scope of how the Guard operates - the onyl difference is that it would be done on the world of raising, rather than at the destination.)

Zinegata wrote:Just a note - the only other place I've ever seen the Caestus is, in fact, the Horus Heresy. The Iron Snake may in fact be referring to the Heresy and the Great Crusade prior to it.
We see a Caestus in 'Blood of Asaheim' too. I think its a fairly recent thing to start featuring it in the 'modern' fluff, although only amongst certain authors I suspect. A bunch of hte new Forge World HH stuff seems to show up as 'rare and special' stuff in modern times (shockingly)

As for how the Iron Snakes could have been alive for 10,000 years, there's growing evidence to show that they might have indeed been a Second Founding chapter and some of their original officers had fought during the Heresy. "Notable Damocles", who was the original commander of Priad's squad in Brotherhood of the Snake, is mentioned (complete with his snake insignia) in Know No Fear where he's an Ultramarines Captain.
That does seem to be the case. The 6th edition Space Marines codex lists the Iron Snakes under the Ultramarines Succesor Chapters, IIRC.
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Forgot to cover this one back with Necropolis I believe. Its the short story post-Necropolis in the first anthology called 'In Remembrance.' Basically an artist is sent out with a squad of ghosts to do a commemoration, and ends up in the midst of a firefight and sees the horrors of war firsthand.


Page 750
Ahead, habbers were queuing for food and basic humanitarian supplies at a relief station set up in an old assembly plant.
...
The homeless, the bereaved, the hungry the sick. Thin people with hollow fates and broken hopes, their eyes blank and sunken. Their skin was uniformly white, their clothing grey with ash and black with dirt. It was as if the world had become monochrome. He seemed fascinated.
...
"They... they look like the old photopicts of me grandparents and kin,' he replied with surprising honesty. There was a terrible sadness in his tone. 'We had this great nalwood mantle over the kitchen hearth back home in County Pryze. Me mam stood the photopicts there, each one in a little frame. Uncles, aunts, distant cousins, weddings, baptisms. I always thought they looked so stiff and awkward, so soulless, you know? Black and white faces, like those out there."

His words were mournful, and quite unlike anything I had ever expected to hear coming from such a hairy brute of a warrior. Lady Chass had asked me to try and capture the soul of the Tanith, and here, unexpectedly and without much searching, I seemed to have glimpsed it.
I think there's some truth in that. I think the Tanith - or those like Corbec, invariably find just a bit of their home planet in other planets, and that may be one of the things that drives them. Certainly it is the parallels between what happens in Vervunhive and Tanith (The loss of your home) which give the Ghosts and Vervunhiver recruits their sense of identity.

We also get the postwar rebuilding.. the displaced civilians and humanitarian/relief efforts. Its sort of nice, but it also underscores that an entire city's population had their world and way of life destoryed. And this is 'victory', which will, you notice, be a recurring theme in this short story. Its actually kind of fitting because its a counterpoint to the (sort of) upbeat way the novel itself ends.




Page 751
Almost immediately, we were surrounded by children. Hab-urchins, refugees, all smeared in filth.
I didn't know what to do. Corbec had handed out the last of his dry rations and calorie packs days ago. The children mobbed him, pulling at his hands, tugging at his fatigues, ignoring his repeated murmur of apology.
The truck horn sounded. The kids looked round.
"Hey!" called Varl. "Hey, over here! C'mon! Cake-bars!" He held up some of the foil-wrapped bars and waggled them.
The flock of children pulled away from us and swarmed around the truck, leaping to catch the cakes as Varl tossed them out from the carton on the seat.
Corbec watched for a moment and smiled. "Varl and me scored the cake rations from a collapsed Munitorium storehouse. We'd intended them to be a treat for the Ghosts." I realised he thought Varl had made a good call. This was more important.
Again a bit of that 'humanitarian' side of things. The Ghosts need something to balance out all the war and horror they've seen, or else they go insane. Doing something, helping out even in a small bit, reconnects with those they have defended, and why they are defending, and helps them to feel sane and human and generally useful and constructive (whereas a soldier, by nature, destroys.)

Also mention of 'calorie packs' whatever they are - presumably for soldiers to keep them going in wartime conditions, and 'cake bars', which seem to be some sort of dessert. I'm wondering if tis something like a twinkie. lol.



Page 753
"I've been commissioned to create a memorial for the war. House Chass has hired me. They want something suitable and noble, and they arranged for me to tour with the Tanith for appropriate inspiration."
"Good luck," she said.
"Why? Am I looking in the wrong place?"
Curth shook her head. "I just don't think there's very much nobility to be found in this misery. What little there is belongs to the Tanith Ghosts, and I doubt very much you could capture that."
"Why?"
"Because it's very particular" she said and walked away.
Curth has a good point. The Ghosts aren't like many of the regiments serving in the Crusade - they have no home world anymor, no families.. nothing that binds them or holds them down anymore. Which also means the reasons to fight have to be different. This is why they are ghosts, in a way, that term has many meanings I suspect, both in their 'unconnected' natures (nothing solid holding them) but also in the reasons why they fight, and what drives them (intangible and indefinite things - not wanting it to happen to others, vengeance, etc. Some may even still be searching for reasons to fight.)

It could also very well speak to the differences in mindset and perspective one has - civilian vs military, someone who has endured war vs someone who never has, etc. The fact she speaks to the whole 'cost of victory' thing emphasizing the misery and lack of nobility (or little nobility there is) leads me to think there might be something here.

As an aside: in another part of the story he wonders why Chass wanted Gaunt's Ghosts commemorated. I think we can guess why lol



Page 753
The House Chass savants had briefed me about Gaunt. The hero of Vervunhive, they were calling him.
Gaunt had taken his wound destroying the abomination known as Heritor Asphodel. He'd been at the gates of death for three weeks, without regaining consciousness. I peered through the curtain. The sutures of his most recent thoracic surgery stood stark against his pale, tight flesh.
Another 'victory' Our mighty hero brings down the evil Chaos dude, but it puts him in a coma for weeks to do so, and the Ghosts don't know if he will survive. We know he does, of course, but it still can be striking as part of the whole 'aftermath' theme. Just another 'cost' of the war.



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" Feth me! Those Titans! They say there's Adeptus Astartes inbound too - Iron Snakes and Imperial Fists. The Warmaster ain't taking no chances!"
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"They miss you, Ibram. The men. Me too. You gave us this victory and it's only right you share it. Don't go dying on us, you hear me?"
Corhec fell silent for a moment and stared down at the floor.
"You know, it's not fething fair" he said finally. "We won, but there are millions of civilians dying out there. Habbers, outhabbers, spiners. I saw some on my way in. It breaks my fething heart. You know what I thought? Well, I'll tell you, seeing as I have your undivided attention. I thought of Tanith. Yeah, Tanith. I thought of the millions we lost. My kin. My kind. My fething world. I looked at those pinched, fethed-up faces and I thought... Tanith. The folks of Tanith might have looked like this if we'd stayed and fought and won. Driven out the enemy. And you know what?"
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"I'm glad. That's what. I'm glad it was all over and done with like that. Your call, Ibram, good call. I never really said it to you before, and I'm only saying it now because, feth knows, you can't hear me. But I'm glad we did what we did. Seeing this. I'd far rather that Tanith died quick and clean that suffer this kind of victory. My people deserved it. Not dying, I mean. But dying cleanly. This... this... crap, they wouldn't have deserved this. Better Tanith died, quick and complete. than... "
Corbec paused.
"You know what I mean. You've put troopers out of their pain too, I know it. It's better when it's quick. Better than this."
Colm is talking to the comatose Gaunt. There is some interesting parallels here given past material. We've talked how the Ghosts blame Gaunt for taking the regiment as their planet was destroyed - in a sense ot many, Gaunt 'killed' Tanith. Or the Imperials did and to them Gaunt symbolizes that. Corbec's comments offer an unusual spin on it - having witnessed the lingering suffering inflicted by 'victory' on Verghast, part of him is relieved Tanith never suffered that way, and he likens what happened to Tanith (which can be attributed to Gaunt) as a merciful execution (which is what Gaunt does as a commissar.) In a way its Corbec coming to terms with Tanith in a way that also reflects on his feelings about Verghast. Which in itself is interesting because it shows the Ghosts may 'find' bits of Tanith in every world they fight. Much like Monthax in Ghostmaker, some (or all) of the Ghosts may fight simply because they see each world as being another potential Tanith, and that's something they are willing to fight to prevent. Another aspect of course is the whole 'cost of victory' thing, and how horrible war is even when you win, and how the Ghosts cope with it. Seeing Verghast as an analogue to Tanith shows Corbec what 'might have been' had they stayed and fought and won, and that does horrify him.

Heck the 'mercy killing' implication itself is an interesting spin on the Commisars's role of punisher and executioner (the ending of pain and suffering). We saw in Necropolis when he shot modile he did nto enjoy it - indeed, it saddened him. Its interesting that some can see a horrible act as neccessary or perhaps even positive as a rationalization for what they've been through, as well as the horror and tragedy of a galaxy that can consider mercy killings a blessing (contrasted iwth our society's mixed views on the issue.) Again its also a glimpse into the 'soul' of Tanith.
Lastly I do have to note that the parallels drawn between Tanith and Vervunhive tend to also reinforce the similarities between the two forces when they amalgamate - they're still 'ghosts', but of different sorts, but with shared experiences and tragedies, which was a big part of the Necropolis novel itself (and the following books.)



Page 754
He gave me grey fatigues to wear in place of my rich blue civilian suit, and carefully strapped a spare ballistic vest around my torso. "It should be quite enough, Mister Thoru."
I'm guessign he was given spare Ghost body armour, because we know by this point they do wear it. Implied to be mostly against projectiles or ballistics and torso armour, rather than the full body stuff others (like the Vitrians, Jantine, or Volpone) wear. Although Bragg's comments do imply it might help against lasfire despite the name.



PAge 755
It all seemed alarmingly casual to me, but Bragg carried the sort of heavy autocannon that normally required a turret to mount it on, so I stuck close to him.
Again Bragg always packs the most insanely heavy weapons, as affords his abnormal stature and strength.

As an aside, Bragg's role has a bit of a chilling aspect to it, as this is a retelling and at one point the narrator says he wonders how Bragg fared and hoped he turned out well. Given how he did NOT turn otu well in Guns of Tanith, this has a rather dark and horrific twist to it, I think.


Page 755
He sported augmetic eyes and the men called him 'Shoggy', though they never told me why. His face and arms were pink with freshly healing burn tissue and this was his first patrol since he had been injured. I asked him how he had been hurt. Apparently a lasgun had exploded in his hands during close combat with Heritor Asphodel.
Happened at the end of the book. given that 3 weeks have passed and we're talking severe burns and burn tissue that's healing (rather than pink or raw or peeling) we might be talking at least mild second degree burns, which shoudl be around 20-30 j per sq cm at least for prolonged exposure.

There is also exposure. Even allowing exposed features to suffer 2nd degree his clothing/armour must have protected him against the bulk of it, which is itself fairly impressive, since its likely large percentages of his body would get burnt and would inflict moderate to severe burn injuries by surface area, but if his face and arms were largely untouched - as well as the augmetics - it seems - he'd have suffered moderate at worst.
anyhow assuming 10,000 sq cm for the body roughly, and 20-30 j per sq cm, we get between 200-300 kj inflicted on him. nw the blast is omnidriectional, so at least half that amount radiated away from the exploding lasgun, which translates to 400-600 kj for the power pack at least. Assuming 50-150 shots we get between 2.7 and 12 kj per shot at least. Bear in mind, of course, that they've been engaged in combat up to this point quite a bit through the PYramid command base, so the actual capacity of the pack when it goes up isn't known. and may affect the calc. Having it half or even a third full could increase the capacity (and per shot output) by several times easily, for example.



Page 755
Feygor was something else entirely. He had been wounded in the throat during the siege, and fresh augmetics has rebuilt his voice box.
Feygor's amazing augmetic throat. They can literally augmetize anything and replace it it seems :P



Page 756
A light wind from the southern grasslands lifted dust in little flurries and eddies. Speeders, drop-ships and shrieking Imperial interceptors crossed the sky back and forth, and the horizon to the south was flickering with flashes and tremors of light. Out in the grasslands, the fleeing remnants of the Zoican army were being hunted down to extinction.
Imperial speeders of some kind. Probably not space marine, given that Corbec just noted the Astartes were 'rumoured' to be here, and if only hte Astartes had speeders that would be a dead giveaway. Maybe its a speeder like the one we saw in the Eisenhorn novels :P



Page 757
The piteous ruin that had befallen these worker habs was evident in every metre of the soil.
I began to feel unwell. This was upsetting, overwhelming. The genial Colonel Corbec had sent me on this trip deliberately. He obviously thought I could do with some sort of wake up call.
I resented that. I was fully awake to Vervunhive's misery. I didn't need to be shown it like this.
And there was no end to it. We crossed a sub-street that was littered with bodies. The air was noxious with corruption and full of flies. Corbec was a bastard, I decided. Whatever he thought of me and my commission, I wasn't looking for this kind of inspiration.
I realised Larkin was crying. It shook me to see it. And, though I know what you're thinking, it didn't diminish him in any way. I'd known from the first moment I saw him he was an emotionally vulnerable man. He didn't falter in his duty for a moment. He kept up the pace, covered all the angles he was asked to. He didn't even seem to be aware that he was crying. But he wept.
I have seen women weep. I have seen children weep. I have seen weak men sob.
I have never, in the sixty years since then, seen a soldier weep. This is the most aching sadness of all. Larkin's tears washed his filthy cheeks clean in long runnels. He kept about his business. To see a man trained and ready to kill cry for the fallen is to see true tragedy.
The remarkable thing is how this guy just insisted 'he didn't need to be out there' seeing allt he horror for his inspiration, and yet then finds it in Larkin moments later. Its like the scene iwth Corbec earlier. It isn't any one thing that 'touches him' about the Ghosts, its lots of little things. Which is interesting, because he's told he won't be able to easily capture the 'soul' of the Ghosts and it seems in the end he was never quite satisfied. The power in the story isn't that its a war story, its more a 'war aftermath' story that plays into Necropolis. The fighting and shit is minor, but it still deals with war themes, and not the fun HA HA I KILL YOU tribal shit either, it shows you war is horrible, tragic and even in victory there is plenty to mourn.

The other big thing about this scene is that it shows that contrast between the 'civilians' for whom war is a distant thing, and the soldiers and civilians and others who are exposed to it. There are completely two different, sometimes alien mindsets to it, becaus war shapes those people in different (and sometimes horrifying) ways. The sculptor resents Corbec for exposing him to the realities of war, and it makes him uncomfortable, and yet shortly he finds out that he was wrong and what he was looking for WAS here. Its powerful because of its revelatory nature of those differences in perspective - coming to realize that things aren't always what you think they are is always a changing experience, and in my opinion a good one. Keeping yourself shuttereda way ignoring reality never works, and this guy is finding out exactly that, and it will shape his feelings for years to come.

I also just wish more novels would addres sthis, rather than playing up the 'HA HA KILLTASTIC' bullshit. There can be more to war stories and military shit than how many people you kill or how powerful your guns are. (and man a few year ago I would have NEVER said anything like this. LOL)


Page 759
"It's this thing! This thing!" Feygor insisted, rapping at the aug-unit in his throat with a dirty finger "It makes me sound fething sarcastic even when I'm not!"
It was perfectly true. The raspy monotone of the implant rendered every word he uttered in a deadpan flatness. He was going to be sarcastic for the rest of his life.
"Be fair, you're sarcastic most of the time anyway," said Brostin.
"Not always."
"How can we tell when you're not being sarcastic?" asked Yael.
"Maybe he could hold up a hand when he's actually being sarcastic for real," Mktag suggested. "Like a signal."
"Oh, that's a good idea," said Feygor
Everyone looked at him. Slowly, reluctantly, he raised a hand.
A bit of Ghosts comedy. I laughed at this, but its apt to the story in that its another glimpse of that soul thing. Despite being an asshole, even Feygor shares something of a bond with the other Ghosts.



Page 759
Mktag crouched beside him, unclasping ammo drums from his pack and feeding them to the munition port in the side of Bragg's support gun. Then he spread out the camouflage capes both he and Bragg were carrying and draped them out over their shoulders. Baffels was laying on his belly a few metres to the right, using a spotter periscope to survey out over the shattered brickwork.
Bragg's autocannon has a bipod. Whereas most people would need a tripod :P That does suggest though that the recoil may be excessive ven for him, at least standing up.



Page 760
I'd never heard a las-weapon discharge before, not for real. I'd seen plenty of newsreels, of course, displaying our glorious soldiery in acts of staged victory, but I know now that the deep, resonating bangs of those weapons were dubbed on afterwards. Real guns make a sharp, cracking nose, like breaking sticks. It's thin, dry and it doesn't sound at all important.
Sound of a lasweapon. Its something I've never seriously discussed, but it is relevant because the 'crack' is quite common to lasweapon descriptions. Its not consistent iwth an energy weapon (at least a laser), although laser 'sound' can be quite variable according to Atomic rocekts - cracking/snapping, buzzing, or even sound similar to a gunshot. It could even be silent. Presumably this might tell us something about the function and design of the weapon, but I've uncovered very little evidence about that. :P



PAge 760
There was a strange strobing of the light around me, like the daylight was flickering. Dust kicked up from a half-fallen wall behind our position and several clumps of stone fell out. I realised we were being fired at. The flickering of the daylight was being caused by bright las-rounds passing over us, almost invisible against the hard glare of the sky. Then a shot stung by against the bricks and I saw it clearly. A dart of seething fire, tinged red, the size of a man's middle finger, so bright it hurt my eyes, so fast it was barely there.
Whilst lasfire is often 'visible' in 40K novels and artwork (indicating that light/photons are being scattered or emitted in some fashion) it seems like they're not solid or opaque or even super bright (unless you look directly at them.) and can seem invisible in daytime. But unlike real life lasfire, its not bright enough to seriously damage your eyes it seems (although not far from it) given what Atomic rockets has said on laser sidearms. Indeed we know goggles of some kind to protect against such are never issued as standard for lasfire, so thats a pretty consistent aspect. It either speaks to the fact its not a laser, or its of a kind that won't cause eye damage.

In an case the subjective impression is that the las bolt is 'middle finger' sized, which suggests a 2-3 cm diameter, which is so foten utilized in my calcs.



Page 763
Then Mktag rose from his prone position like he had been jerked up from behind by his webbing. He twisted and fell over. For a moment, I didn't understand what was happening. It seemed as if Mktag was just behaving stupidly mucking around, kicking with his legs.
But Mktag had been shot. Right there in front of me. He fell at my feet, his heels drumming the ground, his hands spasming. A tiny plume of smoke spiraled up from the little black hole a las-round had made in his forehead. There was no blood. The shot had cauterised the entry wound and it didn't have enough power to exit his skull. Its heat and force had been expended getting into his cranium and incinerating his brain.
It was quite simply the most awful thing I have ever seen. His body thrashing, trying to live, the brain extinguished. I think if there had been more blood, more obvious physical damage, I could have coped better.
But it was just such a tiny hole.
Earlier I'd calced this as multi-MJ for cremating the brain. Which is still possible, although the problems I alluded to remain also (namely how the head doesnt explode.) we could calc it in other ways. inflicting severe burns on part or all of it, up to and including flaying. If we figure 6x6 cm for the brain per side, and figure at least one or several sides burtn, 3rd degree burns would be at least a couple kj to several tens of kj for all sides. if it was 4th degree (steam explosions and flaying flesh) we might get between 15-90 kj per shot. Cauterization and charring might suggest at least 100-150 j per sq cm (around the 'ignition' temeprature for flammables) which would be 3.6-5.2 kj per side (20-30 kj perhaps per shot for all sides.)

If we go by volume, and assume between scalding and boiling for 'incinerating' (figure 100-270 kj per kg) a 1-1.5 kg brain would be between 100-400 kj per shot.

And then there is punching through the skull ignoring the thermal aspects. Human skulls are between a quarter inch and half inch (by everything I can determime) thick approximately (give or take an eighth of an inch and your source) but on the other hand we also have note in various sources (Dawn of War for example) of finger thick holes through skulls which fits with the lasbolt width earlier. If we figure at least 1-2 cm, and possibly 2-3 cm wound diameters based on those facts. 8-10 kj for drilling into the skull with pulses strong neough to punch through bone (5mm spot size, 1.5 cm cavity, 19 cm penetration, 10 microsecond between pulses, and 40 250 joule bursts.) and for upwards of a 3 cm hole (per pulse) you get 30-50 kj (2-3 kj per pulse, but necessitates fewer pulses 10-20 tops if you dont want to overpenetrate.)

An alternate (and more conservative) estimate comes from Luke Campbell here where 40 j per cubic cm is enough to cook tissues. If we figure 80-150 j (20-35 c temp increase.. close enough) and figure a brain 5-6 cm diameter and 7-8 cm 'long' we could get between 175 and 288 cubic cm at least. 14 kj at least to 'cook' the brain, and perhaps as high as 45 kj (call it 300 cubic cm) If we figure a 1 cm diamter hole around 5 cm deep that would be another 1-2 kj at least to 'drill'.

In any case it implies at least that its possible for lasfire to penetrate through the skull doing this damage (which we've seen in the past three books multiple times) and also damaging brain - which fits with mkoll's imaginings. Call it high single/low double digit kj at least, with a definite possibility of triple digit kj for at least a purely thermal mechanism (cooking brain but little explosive effect..) I wouldalso note that comparing this from the previous calc with Mkoll, it might be a strong indicator of lasfire not being true lasers but particle beam like weapons (or a hybrid particle/projectile magic bolt) With the extreme penetration of particle beams, it could eaisly make a small entry wound yet do considerable (widespread) thermal effects internally, up to and including rupturing and or exploding out the back of heads, bodies, etc. Probably including severed limbs. Which is consitent with later novels and other sources (Uplifting primer, Savage Scars, His Last Command depiction of lasfire, etc.)



Page 764
I was an artist, for the God-Emperor's sake! A soft, protected artist from a secure world where death happened behind closed doors or drawn curtains. For all I tried to make my work contain such eternal concepts as truth and grace, nobility and humanity they were empty gestures. My work was empty. I despised every thing I had ever done, all the artistic triumphs I had been so pleased with. They were nothing, barren, vapid. Devoid of any real human truth.
Real truth was out there in the shattered outhabs of Vervunhive. Real truth was waiting and silence, courage and stealth. Real truth was the ability to function in extremes. To fire a cannon and miss and try again. To fix a silver blade to the end of a las·weapon and leap from safety into a shroud of smoke, prepared as you did so to really use that makeshift spear.
Real truth was as real as a tiny hole in a man's forehead.
A change in perspective, an abandoning of preconceptions for the sculptor due to his encounter with the Ghosts. and it seems this is as close as he comes to the 'soul' of Tanith. And proves Curth right, I imagine. I suppose this means that having 'encountered' conflict, at least a small one, first hand, he gets a small inkling of how the Ghosts perspective. Not much, but more than he had when he started out. I think its also significant how he realizes just how much those Guardsmen (and I suppose the other arms of the military) sacrifice to protect the civilians and others from the horrors of the 40K galaxy - the life they have to life, the things they give up, etc. in order to serve that duty (willingly or unwillingly.)



Page 764
"Shut it out? The fear? The trauma? Did they beat it out of you in basic training?"
Milo looked at me strangely. "Who ever said we shut it out?" he asked.
"But you can't... " I began. "You can't live like that. Continue to live, I mean, day in, day out, with that kind of stress, that kind of fear. You must cope somehow. Shut it out."
He shook his head. "I'm scared every minute of my life."
"But how do you keep going?"
Milo shrugged. "I've never thought about it. It's just what we do. What we're asked to do. We're Imperial Guard."
I have never forgotten those words.
One could interpret this as the whole RAR GUARDS ARE BADASS thing, and there is an element to that. The ability to fight and defend and even win despite being fundamentally human, and prone to thigns like doubt and fear, is phenomenal. They aren't space marines with their advntages, yet they can fight and win alongside such powerhouses despite their relative frailty. Its another common 'Guard' theme, and it works pretty good here.

But I think the big point again is playing up that 'sacrifice' aspect to the Guard, and how it, and the life of constant war and devastation thy are exposed to, sets them apart from those they protect. Having to live with those fear and doubts, seeing the misery and suffering inflicted as a result of those wars, and the various means by which they come to terms and cope with it. They're just things that the civilians (like the sculptor) can't begin to imagine without that firsthand experience. And its both tragic and wonderful - tragic in the sense that these people must sacrifice and must be doomed to such a horrific life, and wonderful because it represents a defiant, unbeatable aspect to human nature that refuses to be crushed.



Page 765-766
"You dare die," Rawne was muttering at Gaunt. "You dare die on me, you fething bastard. Die now and I'll never forgive you. It can't be this way I won't let it."
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"'If you're going to die, it's got to be me that kills you. Me, you hear you bastard? Me. Otherwise, it isn't fair. I've got to be the one. I need to be the one. Not some Chaos bullet. You live, you bastard. You wake up and live so that I can kill you properly."
We revisit the complex relationship between Rawne and Gaunt broached in Ghostmaker. Rawne hates the guy, yet on another level he respects and I think even likes him. Rawne is still conflicted because of that, and he is still trying to come to terms with it. And if Gaunt dies, he loses the possibility of that closure. This also represents the gradual erosion of that hate for Gaunt that reaches a culmination later on in the series, as Rawne develops as a character.



Page 766
I missed three deadlines, and risked the wrath of Lady Chass. I scrapped five working models, and destroyed two works in the very last stages. They weren't right.
Eventually, the piece was cast in steel. I wasn't much satisfied with that either. To me, it had no truth, no real truth. But House Chass couldn't be denied any longer.
It stands today in the centre of what was once Vervunhive's Commercia. The hive has been levelled, and most of the land turned back to pasture and grassland. Shards of rock, bits of bone and spent shell cases can still be found on the windy slopes amongst the grasses.
It's become my most famous work. There's irony. To say I was really, truly pleased with it, I'd have to raise a hand, like Feygor.
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A single Imperial Guardsman, cast in steel rendered down from the broken weapons left in the ruins of the hive. It's not even specifically a Tanith Ghost, and it has no special likeness. One fist is raised, not in victory but in determination, a gesture like the one Baffels made. There is a set to the shoulders that resembles Colonel Corbec's relaxed stance, a set to the head that always reminds me of Trooper Bragg's reassuring backwards glance. There's Milo's honesty in it, I like to think, and Rawne's venom. It has, like all statues, Mktag's awful stillness.
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There's nothing of Gaunt himself in it, because I never knew him, Like I said, I never knew any of them, not really. But his men are in it, so I suppose he is too.
its not a 'sharpe' style ending, but it has its significance all the same, because its playing up those aspects of the story I described. The sculptor learns of the ghosts through glimpses of them at work and interactign with their enviroment, each Ghost in his or her own way, and by being exposed to some measure of what they themselves are exposed to. And the sculptor not being able to 'capture' it perfectly - the fact he remains unsatisfied - only emphasizes that whole 'difference in mindset'. He's got a glimpse of it, but a glimpse is not the same thing as being it, or living it, and he simply cannot do that unless he becomes a soldier. So at best he can give a vague impression of his own experiences... sort of a symbolic/thematic version of 'telephone', because its diluted by passage through the sculptor. And while it might awaken some awareness in a citizen, its going to be far less than what even the Sculptor feels, and hence the divide remains. Indeed, teh sculptor's experiences may set him apart from the rest of civilians for that reason. Change is like that.

And lastly, I think the statue is repreesntative of what the Ghosts are representative of - taking a tragedy, any tragedy and trying to turn it into something worthwhile, and finding meaning in all the death and destruction. Its not always the optimal solution, but its better than nothing or giving into the despair.
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I decided to throw out the Sabbat Worlds Anthology as well. This was during a period of illness and recovery for Dan (covered in the opening) and basically had ADB, Graham McNeill, Matt Farrer, Nik Vincent (Dan's Wife), Sandy Mitchell, Nick Kyme and Dan himself. So a bunch of really decent authors writing the only IG-oriented anthology yet. It was interesting to see the different aspects covered, and surprisingly many of them worked out quite well IMHO. I'd not be surprised if they did this again, assuming it was popular.

Anyhow, two updates.


PAge 9
It seems I can add ‘world builder’ to my CV.
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Anyone who works in what’s loosely known as ‘genre fiction’ (ie SF, fantasy, horror, comics, a great deal of gaming etc. etc.), is used to the process. What’s basically meant by the phrase is the deliberate and artful construction of a consistent fictional background, setting or milieu for your story or stories to operate in.
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What you’re basically setting out to do is establish a playing field that is logical and stable and doesn’t start suddenly contradicting itself.
Dan Abnett on World Building. I think its generally accurate. One should note that 'consistent' and 'stories to operate in' are important - internal consistency. Realism may or may not play a factor into it, depending on the story you write. But it has to be internally consistent with itself to work.




Page 9-10
When I was first asked to write for Warhammer 40,000 (as memory serves, this would have been around about 1996), the basics of the ‘world’ I would be working in were already well built. Like many popular and long-running intellectual properties, 40K is a ‘shared universe – lots of individuals work within, and contribute creatively to, the whole. But the universe was truly vast, and there was a great deal of room for ‘micro-invention’ within it.

I don’t mean this to sound like a criticism of Warhammer 40,000 at all: the inclusion of huge scope for individual development was a deliberately designed aspect of the universe. This was an adventure you were being invited to join in with, and contribute to.
Which is a pretty apt way to describe 40K, more or less, and why it has no concrete 'canon' policy the way Star Wars, Trek, or other universes might. GW (despite IP peculiarities) really does seem to emphasize a 'shared universe' idea and they want to leave room for lots of interpretations, which is one reason they leave things decidedly vague. People might think this is a bad thing, that it makes a setting hard to rationalize, but its not if you have the right mindset. Not being tied down by a 'canon' policy means you have much greater flexibility in addressing the material. Its a much more relative, open ended approach, and it ssomething I've learned to appreciate over the years.




Page 10-
... I’d like to think I’ve contributed in two particular areas of the world building process ...
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The first area is what might be called small-scale texture or domestic detail. With various books, but particularly the Eisenhorn trilogy, I wrote about the 40K universe away from the front line of eternal war. I created a lot of words, phrases and ideas that have been adopted as part of the basic vernacular (vox, anybody? promethium?) and used by other writers, by players, and by game designers alike
This is notable in the sense there are no real 'divisions' between the material, it is all (to varying degrees) inter-related. I mention this because I've known some people to draw artificial distinctions between materials - the 'game' materials (Codexes, etc.) being somehow more inherently reliable becaus they come direct from GW. THat doesn't seem to be the case, as over the years Abnett (as he notes here) hs influenced the writers with his work, and vice versa. Heck many of the BL writers are former designers (Gav Thorpe, Andy Chambers, Graham Mcneill, etc.)

This inter-relation also applies to all the other material (liek the FFG RPGs.) So you can't really draw arbitrary distinctions, or try to 'categorize' it in some bizarre canon-caste system. Not without being arbitrary, at any rate.

It also reflects just how pervasive Abnett's work has been on the setting. This is not a bad thing. By Eisenhorn, by the Ghosts, by the HH series, Abnett has demonstrated and influenced many writeers, and that can only improve the setting if they try to take his approach to it. The fact he works so well with McNeill, ADB, etc. only reinforces that, as they're quite good writers too and cut from the same cloth.




Page 10-11
..‘The Sabbat Worlds’ sounded exotic and atmospheric. I made reference to events that had happened just prior to the first story, and mentioned other places. It gave the stories a little meat, a little context.

As the novels took off, the background developed. It grew flesh over its bones. By the fourth book, Honour Guard, we had a real sense of what the Sabbat Worlds were all about and why they were important. These elements have become more and more significant as I’ve progressed. I find it very satisfying that those early, almost throwaway references to places and events are becoming increasingly important. The series as a whole is broken down into discrete story arcs....
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...Blood Pact, readers will see how the setting is coming to drive the action more and more.
This is something that gets notable over time as you read the series. The first few books have a distinct flavor and feel which is separate from the latter books, and the content, the terminology, and the characters.. heck EVERY aspect of the setting, has evolved over time. That is what makes the Ghosts sand the Sabbat Worlds novels so compelling. They're not novellized versions of little plastic soldiers on a game field. They come across as living, breathing people. They experience the joys, horrors and sadness of war. They make friends, they lose friends and loved ones. THey fight, and they die. Even the people we become attached to. Through their eyes we witness how horrible war can be, and how the human being copes with that war. How they live, love, laugh... hwo they bond. That's really the strength of the Ghosts series, because its organic - it constantly evolves. We lose some people, we meet new people, and things are always happening both on the field and off, and its the balance between the two which helsp to keep it interesting, and the fact Abnett continues to evolve and develop the setting only adds to that compelling-ness. Its not just worldbuilding he makes, but drama. All the World building int he world won't matter if you don't have good characters to inhabit it, after all.



Page 13
The author of the Ultramarines series and of Horus Heresy epics including the New York Times bestseller A Thousand Sons, he is the master of 40K hugeness and fury, and a writer I unfailingly refer to as ‘mighty’ when I talk about him in my blogs. Graham and I have evolved an enjoyably close way of working in tandem for the Horus books, which he described as me ‘knocking shots into the air for him to smash’. This seemed to pay dividends with Horus Rising and False Gods, and will again with the parasitic twins A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns.
Abnett has some really glowing things to say about all the writers who contributed to his work, and I have to say they're all people I've traditionally considered 'good' 40K authors (although Steve Parker is absent lol.) Probably some of the best really. Graham and Abnett clearly have formed close bonds over the years, and between them they've contributed quite a substantial degree of fluff over the years (as Abnett has noted for himself.) Graham has contributed on the games side and the novel side, and both have left a prominent impact in various aspects of the series. I don't always like some fo the stuff Graham does, but I do say the stuff I do like tends to be some of the most solid stuff out there (The Last Church, Nightbringer, the Killing Ground, Angel Exterminatus and Thousand Sons, etc.) and the man should be saluted for trying to introduce something other than KILLTASTIC to the setting, evne if it didn't always work out.



Page 16
Apostle Seven had found them, though she had no idea how, since they were running with their auspex silent, and had to rely on Operations to guide them to intercepts.
Fighters being guided to their target/intercepts by their base's sensor and other systems.



Page 17
Orbital auspex had been unable to locate this base, and the existence of a mass carrier on the ice had been ruled out.
Orbital surveillance of the planet to locate enemy forces. I suspect that the orbital and ground based surveillance may work together to direct the fighters as described above.



Page 18
"There’s an intercept going on. Indigo Flight from the 235th. They need some help."
..
"Fifty kilometres over the ocean ice, a thousand metres off the deck."
"Auspex?"
"Yes, light them up," voxed Quint.

Larice did so, but all she got was a hissing wash of backscatter from the mountains. The tech-seers had blessed her auspex before takeoff, but it looked like it was still sluggish from its time inactive. She cursed, heightening the gain, and immediately saw the engagement. It looked like a bad one. Four Navy machines, with at least nine bats swarming them.
Range of auspex is 50 km, and this seems to be active sensing (not passive) to detect. I dont know if they have passive sensors at all (not unreasonable) but the Aeronautica stuff seems to rely on actives more than passives for fighting.





Page 18
Larice flipped up the guard on the afterburner trigger, and braced herself for the enormous power of the Thunderbolt’s turbofan in her back.
..
A booming roar of jets. A monstrous hand pressed her hard against her seat. The airframe shuddered and the few clouds blurred as the plane leapt forwards like an unleashed colt. The sense of speed was intoxicating. She held the stick, keeping her body braced in the grip position as she felt the blood being forced from her extremities. She held course, feeling the plane straining at her control.
"Incoming contacts, twelve thousand metres." said Quint. "Cut burners and go subsonic."
Afterburner is supersonic. Whether that reflects the 'max speed' givein in Imperail armour or is on top of that, we don't really know. But normal combat speed seems to be subsonic.
Also detection of the forces at 12 km or so.
According to this AGSM (what I gather is the 'grip' position) can add 3.5 gees to gee tolerances, so we might figure at least that much for transverse acceleration, possibly as high as 8-9 gees at least, on afterburn. That's just a guess, of course, but it woudl be considerable accel. Less though than if the Gee suit activated, so that is a limit here.





Page 19
With relative closing speeds in excess of a thousand kph, the gap between the two forces was shrinking rapidly. It was going to get real ugly, real quick.
Combined closing speed of 278 m/s.



Page 19
There! Nine lean darts with tapered wings like the fins on a seeker missile. The sky filled with light as the bats opened up. The Navy birds, painted a brusque camo-green, were twisting and diving with desperate turns and rolls, using every trick in the book to shake their pursuers.
seeker missiles in this context seem to be anti-aircraft missiles, either from the ground (and possibly from the air.) Missile usage is fairly common actually in this novel :P It also implies gun range might occur (at least long range) just after entering visual range or thereabouts.




Page 20
Larice sidestepped, viffing up to let the enemy fire paint the air beneath her.
vectored thrust. Imperial fighters as we know from the last book don't require runways, and can pretty much combine aircraft flight with VTOL/helictoper style manuevering (manuver vertically and horizontally as well as turns.) which gives them a considerable advantage, evne without missiles. :P



Page 20
She had a fraction of a second to act. Her quads barked, and booming thunder spat from her craft. The deflection was bad and her shots went over the bat. Correction, another burst. This time the bat blew apart in a shredding flicker of mauve and crimson.
Fraction of a second, indicating that gunfire is probably many times faster than the plane itself. given the implied velocities of the plane before, we're probably talking at least 1 km/s, maybe 2 km/s for gunfire.


Page 21
...pulling into the Hell Blade’s turn and opening out the throttle as she viffed in a jagged sidestep. The bat matched her turn, pushing her outwards, and she knew there was more than likely another aircraft waiting to take the kill shot. Instead of playing that game, she threw her plane around, using the vectors to pull a near one-eighty and reverse her thrust. The pressure pulled the cracks in the canopy wider.

The pursuing Hell Blade filled her canopy and she mashed the trigger, feeling the percussive recoil from the heavy autocannons mounted in the nose. The Hell Blade viffed up over her burst.
More vectored thrust, used to evade gunfire and demonstrating fighter mobility. If we figure 1 km/s velocity at around 500 m, that would be half a second. Hellblades by Forgeworld have a height of around 1.65 m, so figure betwene half and a quarter second to clear 1.5-2 m roughly. - 3-8 m/s velocity imparted At least one or two gees worth of accel (possibly 6-7 gees) for lateral turns maybe. That implies some pretty powerful engines, all told, even if just vectored thrust.



Page 21
Larice threw her Thunderbolt into a screamingly tight turn and inverted to take the brunt of the explosion on her underside. Air was driven from her lungs, and her vision greyed at the force of the turn.
..
Larice loosened the throttle. Her breathing eased and she screwed her eyes shut for a second to throw off the greyness lurking at the edge of her vision.
Implied turn is perhaps at least 3-5 gees, probably more than that, possibly upwards of 8 ges or more, although this is turning, not straight line acel.



Page 22-23
Rimfire was the designation for the airbase set up to face the Archenemy’s newly opened flank. It was a rush job, hardened hangars cut into the ice and honeycomb landing strips laid out on the Ice by Munitorum pioneers. Its tower facilities were mobile command vehicles and its auspex coverage came from airborne surveyor craft originally designed to hunt for ground minerals.
Features of temporary Imperial airfield bases.



Page 24
A data squirt appeared on her slate and she keyed in the corresponding frequency, thumbing the activation switch. An answering light appeared on her tactical plot, thirty kilometres out. Rimfire.
Telemetry provided for landing stuff. thirty km detection range here.



Page 24
Every second she spent in the air was a few hundred metres closer to safety.
again implied velocity of 200-300 m/s, and thats just running on a near empty/empty tank at that.




Page 26
"Sure, soup sounds good."

He handed her his mug and she took a grateful sip. It tasted of hot vegetables and game.
Better than corpse starch.




Page 30
Larice had last seen the Munitorum mass carrier when she’d flown her Thunderbolt from its cavernous hold to the planet’s surface. Kilometres long, the mass conveyer was a city adrift in space, a landmass capable of interstellar flight.
Space carrier, Munitorum issue, rather than Navy (or maybe borrowed from the Navy.) It may not even be a military ship per se, but just a hauler and deployment platform for aeronautica fighters from orbit. Its still rather huge by starship terms implied, which also means probably a shit ton of fighers (hundreds if not more).





Page 32
" I told Commander Jagdea this, and I’ll tell you too, Larice. It doesn’t do to have friends when you’ve flown as long as us and seen as much death through your canopy as we have. It’s a liability, a weakness that slows you down and clouds your judgement. And you know as well as I, that anything that keeps you from the top of your game in the air gets you killed."
..

"I know it’s hard to adjust to our way of thinking, but if you want to survive, it’s the best way."

"It’s the only way," said Quint, surprising them all. "It’s the Apostles’ Creed. Live by it or get the hell out."
What the squadron calls the 'Apostles Creed'. In double eagle it was explained, but what it comes down to is a deliberate coping mechanism for survival - physical and emotional. You don't care about your crew members, and it doesn't affect your performance. You deaden yourself to loss, because its something that an ace squadron sees a great deal of (people trying to measure up ot them, or to fly at their level, or simply the attrition of being such a high profile squadron.) It really reflects a sort of hideous price to be 'best of the best' - so many people from the outside looking in only see the glamour of being the best, but they don't see the emotional and mental cost associated with it. Larice certainly doesn't and its a hard lesson she has to learn to acquire that sort of armor.

In a way though, its also horribly dehumanising, and it shows that being the 'best' is not neccesarily all that it can be made out to be.




Page 35-36
Cannon shells spat from a Hell Blade’s guns, a couple raking the topside armour of the Thunderbolt. Larice saw it was armed with underslung rockets too.

..
The rear of Laquell’s Thunderbolt spat brightly burning flares in an attempt to prevent the enemy rocket from locking onto his engine emissions.
..
"Rocket away!" shouted Schaw.
Chaos fighter launching a guided (air to air) rocket, seems to be heat seeking. Also use of countermeasures (flares) to distract the target, indicating that missile combat can happen and may not be all that rare.




Page 36
..kicking in the afterburner and diving hard. She felt her vision greying under the pressure of the increased g-forces. Her flight suit expanded and she felt the composition of her air-mix change as she pushed the craft to the edge of the envelope.
Again afterburner and dive, gray out, and flight suit expanding to compensate, probably also grip.. implying limits of human tolerance for combined effort (which also implies afterburn accel is probably far less than turn rates, :P) Although it might be interesting if there are suspensors wired into the suit (EG Warriors of Ultramar.)





Page 38-39
At the far end of the vaulted, echoing chamber, a heaving mass of cogitators and logic engines were hooked up to a series of coughing generators. A gaggle of uniformed officers and tech-priests surrounded an illuminated plotting table. It bathed their faces in a bleaching light..
..
Larice had never thought much about the men and women who directed her in the air, assuming they were sitting in a calm, ordered command centre. Watching the chaos surrounding the plotter and hearing the barked flood of information gathered by the ground-based and aerial augurs, she found a new respect for their skill in juggling so many variables.
Command central, the aircraft direction people who guide them in and such, and the stuff they do it by (sensors, computers, etc.





Page 40
Larice checked her wrist chron. Every pilot had one. They delivered a warning note and a mild electric shock when an alert came in, and were universally hated.
How fun. I imagine being on time matters, but I can see why they hate them. Probably Munitorum design and issue too! :P




Page 41
Two hundred and sixty-six aircraft filled the air, a mix of vector jets, ground attack craft, air-superiority fighters, heavy bombers and a pair of converted Marauders equipped with souped-up auspex gear. Designated Orbis Flight, these last two planes would attempt to provide mobile command and control over the coming battle.
Composition of Imperial air force. Typically its a very mixed bag for Sabbat Worlds, some very sophisticiated stuff (usually Imperial) with some older stuff as well. Take note of the modified Marauders who provide aerial observation and C&C. Also note the fighters are described as 'vector jets' referencing the vectored thrust.




Page 41
Forty Marauders, comprised of aircraft from the 22nd Yysarians and the 323rd Vincamus, growled behind the fighter screen. Their bomb bays were fully laden with armour-penetrating warheads so heavy it seemed like the aircraft might not make it over the peaks.
Bomber wing component with armour piercing bombs. I wonder if that means they're designed as penetrators then explode? Probably.




Page 42
One by one, the Apostles acknowledged and Larice thumbed her auspex into active search mode, watching as the scope began filling with rapidly ascending contacts. High-speed interceptors, slower close-in defence craft, and heavy ground contacts.
Auspex has 'active' and presumably passive modes.




Page 42
Nearly two thousand metres long and glossy black with a flat topside bristling with crooked towers, sloped takeoff ramps and jet blast deflectors, the Archenemy mass carrier swarmed with bats.

..
And Larice saw how it had evaded detection for so long.

It was a submersible mass carrier.
You gotta hand it to Chaos, they're sneaky. I never cease to be amused and amazed by the size of ground vehicles that the enemies of the Imperium come up with. 2 km, submersible supercarriers.





Page 42-
"Apostle Lead, this is Orbis One. We are reading strong auspex bands low on the ice, five kilometres from your position"
..
"Identification: six outlying super-heavies on the ice equipped with surface-to-air rockets between Winter Spear and its objective."
Anti Air protection, super-heavified. Guns and missiles. detected on the ground at 5 km or so.




Page 42
Target information from Orbis inloaded onto Larice’s armaments panel, the target of her Thunderbolt’s wrath blinking a taunting red. Six multiple rocket-launching batteries surrounded the mass carrier, each capable of throwing up a lethal screen of seeker rockets.
Again info telemetry relayed to fighter from the observation craft.




Page 43
He spoke with crisp authority, and as Larice heard the confirmations coming over the vox she was again struck by the machine-like obedience of her fellow Apostles. There was no verbal roughhousing like you’d find in most Navy wings, no wishes of good hunting or benedictions to the Emperor. The Apostles were all about the task, anything else was a liability.
Again reflecting that emotional deadening that is self-protection for the Apostles in their job as elites. CAn't start caring or it drives you mad.




Page 43
Thunderbolts and Lightnings could outrun missiles and outfly gunners, but the Marauders would have no chance against them.
Apparently Surface to air missiles run slower than Imperial fighters. This means Mach 2 or thereabouts, tops. At least for Chaos missiles. This would make thems slower (and probably shorter ranged) tahn real life missiles.




Page 44
Her low-level approach would make it difficult for the enemy gunners to achieve weapons lock. The auspex feed from Orbis showed the rocket battery..
..

..the ugly construction of black metal, blades and the rearing templum-organ of its launch tubes fastened to the ice by extended clamps like a raptor’s claws
Rocket platform..

Also gunnery locks by the superheavies and auspex feed from observation craft. Also the superheavy launcher seems to be vertical launch.




Page 46
Larice stood her plane on its tail and hit her burners, melting a ten-metre-wide crater in the ice as her Thunderbolt leapt skyward.

assuming a roughly hemipsheircal crater thats 130 GJ to melt it by afterburners in a relatively short timeframe. A good 5-10 gees implied at least, even assumign that the afterburn is dumping out 1 a ton of matter at only a few km/s exhaust velocity. or somewhat thereabouts, and that would still onyl be roughly single digit GJ for KE (unless the ship is massively less efficient, like 1% of thrust translated to KE) CAn't be too high of course, given human limits too.




Page 47
The two mobs of fighters were well and truly enmeshed now, like starving hounds locked in a cage, the battle an impossible-to-follow tangle of explosions, missile contrails, air-bursting flak, las-fire and vector flare.
Air to air duel that includes missiles again. The ground platforms were already destroyed, too.






Page 47
She saw the enormous carrier was wallowing in the ocean, industrial-grade meltas flaring around its edges to melt the ice and allow it to escape beneath the water.
The mass carrier has meltas to melt the ice and allow submerging. Even assuming only 1 m thick ice melting about 1 m away from a 2000 m long platform (assume 200 m across) means the meltas are at least melting several TJ worth of ice, which is alot just to sink the freaking carrier. Heck a 2km long carrier (large escort) in terms of megatonnage would probably require tens or hundreds of gigawatts to push through the water, at least! :P





Page 48
Masked warriors fired pistols and rifles at her, and the rockets streaked across the deck in pursuit of her furnace-hot turbofans.
..

Her auspex screamed warnings at her. She pulled a recklessly tight turn around the carrier’s command spire, spitting a string of incandescent flares as she punched the engines.
Air to air heat seaking rockets again, and flares to counter.




Page 50-51
"I’m not as unfeeling as I appear, Larice. We don’t have the camaraderie of other Naval wings, and now you know why. We can’t afford to be friends with the people we fly alongside. Out of all the wings that fought in the attack on the carrier, we are the only ones to escape loss. Fate’s wheel has turned, and once again we escape its notice. The galaxy isn’t ready for us to die, and you need to show it that you don’t care one way or another. You need to show it that you don’t fear it, to spit into the darkness and say that nothing it can do will make the slightest bit of difference."
..

"The minute you start to care, that’s when they get you."

"They?"

He shrugged. "Fate, Death, whatever’s out there in the darkness."

"And that’s what you do? Not care?"

"I do what I have to. I drink and I sing and I rage at the stars, whatever really. Each of us has his own way. You’ve seen that."

"Does it help?"

"It makes it easier. I don’t know if that’s the same thing, but it means I can climb into the cockpit of a Thunderbolt and not care if I come back.’"
The Creed again. Its actually kind of sad in a way, because to be the best you have to stop being what you you are trying to protect - to be an elite means giving up your humanity in order to be the best. The Apostles believe caring would compromise their ability, so they eradicate all their compassion, camaradire from their squadron. Its not unlike the sacrifice required of an Astartes when you think about it, but the merely human pilots don't have the benefit of superhuman organs or anything like that, which makes it more tragic, I think.

That's the lesson Asche learns, and she becomes as unfeeling as they do.



Page 53
I’ve been a fan of Matt’s work since I first read it, and I think his Enforcer trilogy featuring the Adeptus Arbites Shira Lucina Calpurnia is entirely made out of epic win with a splash of awesome sauce.
So have I. Whilst he's most well known for the Calpurnia series (when are we getting a new novel?) He's done a ton of short stories, so he's still working for BL apparently. He's got an interesting look at nonmilitary sides to 40K and an interesting approach to it. He is also one of the handful of authors who I really dig for the Sororitas/Ecclesiarchy characters (and we get more of that here, pity its so little.) They should really let the man collaborate with James Swallow and Ben Counter on a bunch of Sisters of Battle books.




Page 58-59
‘Our’ meant the deeply mercenary consortium of trade houses from Bardolphus who’d managed to get themselves some sort of Administratum marque and were clawing for a foothold in the Ashek reconstruction.
Commercial ventures in postwar salvage operations



Page 59
"The Missionaria Galaxia is here to make sure these people are obedient servants to the Throne! What are you putting in your sermons about diligence? Temperance?"
..
It’s more complicated than that, Adalbrect started to say, it always is. Why did people have this ridiculous idea that the Missionaria just had to shout a sermon at someone to throw some sort of switch in their heads marked instant obedience?

"The work crews here are frail and mortal, Demi-Lector, as are we all." Sarell got in before him. "Most are war displacees, some are refugees from elsewhere on the world, some are refugees from other worlds repaying the cost of their transp–"
...
"But bear with my point. Spiritually these people have lain too long prostrate beneath grief and darkness. We are helping them back to their feet." Adalbrect grinned. She was taking from his sermon of two mornings ago. He liked compliments. "But until they get their strength back, sometimes they will stumble."
the Missionara Galaxia. I have to say that Adalbrect and Sarell are my favorite characters in this story. as I said, Matt Farrer writes some of the better Ecclesairchal characters (and Sororitas) I've found, and that appeals to me. Here we have a guy who is clever and realizes that people are not easily manipualted.. he's smart about what he does in his persuasion and psychological manipulation. But its also not callous or cynical manipulation, I believe he is genuinely concerned for the welfare of the people he ministers to, but it does show that the Church's powerbase (and purpose) is in managing the populace.




Page 62
They hadn’t appeared to confer about him: taped to Adalbrect’s sternum was a small metal plaque that vibrated when it detected silent cant-casts, and there had been no telltale buzzing against his breastbone.
Device to detect Admech transmissions.




Page 63-64
They knew the cost at which the Archenemy’s forces had been broken here, and the legacy the diabolical engineer known as Asphodel had left behind.
..
The glint in the carrier’s running lights was the spread claw of one of the fat four-legged Murdernaut assault machines, the fingers curved, tapered, sleeker than the Imperial engines’ weapon limbs.
..
The engine shifted and growled as they rolled up a brief slope, skirting the wreck of a Coffin-Worm slumped as though exhausted and brooding, its head down, the canopy behind which its crew would have sat shattered, its legs buckled and splayed out on either side of it. Its armoured back hunched up above its main hull.
..
Two Flensing-Wheels leaned together in silhouette against the red smears of dusk like conspirators whispering plans.
..
..took in the spikes that studded their surfaces and the hooks that reached out from their rims, saw the pocks of high-density stub-rounds that stippled one from edge to edge and the great crater in the centre of the other where the cockpit had been torn or blasted out, gimbals and all.

..
The dead Woe Machines swarmed the plain, shoulder to shoulder and flank to flank. The high-backed Coffin-Worms leaned this way and that, and the hooks studding the Flensing-Wheels seemed to claw at the sky as though they wanted some of Ashek’s bloody sunset for themselves. Ahead of them towered a cairn of wrecked Blight-Balls, all caved in or ripped open or perforated with lascannon craters, sagging and spilling against the flank of a ruined Skybreaker gun-train whose torn-off tread mountings gave it a staggering lean. Jammed in between the greater machines were ungainly rows and piles of the lesser, whole or in fragments: bulbous Stalk-Tanks, thick-shouldered Murdernauts, batrachian Rackmouths. Adalbrect spent a moment puzzling out an incongruously neat stack of intermeshed girders until he realised he was looking at the severed scaffolds from one of the infamous Abattoir Trees. He remembered the name from the shuddering Guard sergeant who had begged to be allowed to throw himself off the roof from which three orderlies had just dragged him.

Once he’d made the association Adalbrect found his gaze riveted to the stained and dented metal meshes. He fancied that as the lights moved over them he could see the points of the harpoon-barbs, although he knew that that was impossible. The Guard had been meticulous about smashing every weapon mount on the Trees before they had allowed the wrecks to be dragged away. The tech-priests had been furious about it.
Rather lengthy depiction of all of Heritor Apshodel's 'Woe Machines' as depcited by this story. I think the two things that really strike out at me are a.) they seem to be huge and b.) they're all designed for psychological impact.. more specifically inflicting terror as much as damage. The use of blades, spikes, barbs, etc seem especially designed as much for pain and terror as efficiency. Also Asphodel must be insane in resource usage. lol

Its also rather puzzling/interesting how the AdMech regards the devices. Clearly some think they can learn stuff from it (and they probably could.. asphodel is pretty brilliant if insane) but you'd think some would object to them wanting too.. taint and all that.

Also the 'high density' stub rounds. I dont know what high density is but its notable.




Page 65
Haffith, the Colonel’s man, kneeling in the aisle between the seats, his eye glasses shining animal red in the lights, calmly readying a short Guard-issue stub carbine.
..
Haffith’s voice trailed off and his head cocked: he was listening to something over his vox-bead.
Guard issue stubber carbine weapon. Not everything is a lasgun. Probably a SMG type weapon.
Also equipped with vox bead.

As an aside they're travelling in a wheeled munitorum carrier (carrier-8) which I gather means an eight wheeled carrier. Whether civilian or military we dont know.


Page 66
Sarell’s weapon had spoken twice and Adalbrect winced at the flat, echoless whud after each shot.
..
Scattered between them were the ruins of what had been a third until Sarell’s rounds had hit home.
Two bolt rounds explode a man.




Page 66
One stride, and here came the slick metallic sound of the nanotempered adamantium blade extending from its mount in the carved aquila, triggering the movements driven deep into his muscle memories over hundreds of hours of drill.
'nano-tempered' Spear head in an aquila staff. Neat.




Page 69
Adalbrect swung his right arm up and jammed his hand in behind his head as though he were trying to scratch his back with the pistol barrel. Face contorted, he fired, fired again, and a third time, hearing the snap of the shots, and the gouging pain turned searing.

A moment later the barb that had held him came loose as he shot through its mounting..
Laspistol fires three shots (in a moemnt) to shoot through barb/spike mounting on woe machine.

Figure at least single digit kj, maybe double digit to punch through/blast free the mounting. Depends really on how big the barb is (its big enough to penetrate to bone and muscle, and big enough that removing it would tear the shoulder apart)



Page 70
His arm was strong and the head of the rod heavy, and the man’s neck parted in one stroke.
Even allowing for strength, that nano-tempered blade must be sharp to so cleanly decapitate.



Page 72
He was steeped in Asheki culture, the Customs of knowledge, the Traditions ordering its holders, the ancient Practices of engineering that the glorious Heritor had shown them how to bring to majestic and terrible perfection. But on a night like this he could almost feel the most sublime mysteries that the Heritor’s preachers had sung and danced and screamed about, some power that was carrying him through the night on sombre wings.
The Heritor seems to have, wherever he went, left teachings that were not just religious but engineering based.. chaos engineering. reminds me a bit of perturabo in that regard... for him sciences like that seem to be as much a religion as a idscipline.. his way of worshipping Chaos. And he seemed to leave lots of examples lying around (Between Necropolis and Salvation's REach.)




Page 74
The ‘spiders were decked with memory-cored razorwire – the casualty rates among their cutter crews was insane – and as Gatter thrashed it contracted and hoisted him upward. Blood started pattering down onto the dust under his boots.
Memory wire. Yummy.




Page 75
The Poison King had a poor view: it had done most of its work either right up against Hammerstone fortresses or Legio Tempesta Titans, where big windows were a target, or else at tens of kilometres away with its ugly crest of missile batteries, when all the fighting was over auspex or missile cameras and windows were a distraction.
Implied range of Titan-scale Woe Machine, which one assumes means Titans (and other heavy weaponry) have a similar range.. auspex and missile camera range. Or artillery range.




Page 76
Even if he could sneak back down through the guts of the King and away, he had been given the Poison King to break into, and it had its name for a reason. Its broad treads had taken it out onto the hotstone flows, sucking up the radioactive silt and sifting out the precious rare elements, processing them in foundries in its belly whose complexity and compactness were testament that Asphodel’s genius was not just in machines of destruction. Jopell had climbed up the King through those very foundries, crawling along mineral conveyors and squirming his bulk through the sifter shafts, and now he was coated in toxic metals and bathed in radiation.
Whehter the radioactives made the missile warhead, or they just made deliberately dirty/radiation weapons, we dont know. Compact fabrication ability though too.




Page 80
The hellgun shot cratered the top of Kovind Shek’s spine and the back of his head, and the explosive vaporisation snapped him forward at the waist. His face bounced off the controls and his corpse slid slowly down the lectern. By the time it had sunk onto its knees the Guard were in the command bridge and a boot kicked Kovind’s body aside. A moment later the chatter squealed to a stop as Haffith tore the great key out of the codecaster and broke it in half under his heel.
Hellgun shot blows out back of head/neck and possibly part of the shoulders/spine via explosive vaporization. At least double digit kj, perhaps more. If we figure 25x25 cm at least, thats 625 sq cm. At 400 j per sq cm that would be 250 kj. Call it double/triple digit kj to blast out. If we go with momentum (figure 20-40 kg*m/s, and 1500 m/s exhaust velocity) its 15-30 kj KE, and 30-60 kj to explosively vaporized neough tissue to impart that recoil, roughly. Even if its just 2nd or 3rd degree burns we're talking 15-30 kj.


Page 83
In the comparatively short period of time since he unleashed his fiction upon the readers of the Black Library, the talented Mr Dembski-Bowden (that’s ‘bow’ as in the front of a boat, not the thing that fires an arrow) has more than proved his chops with some frankly pant-damaging pieces of writing awesomeness.
Its not unfair to say that ADB has had a rather meteoric rise to the position of 'Great 40K writer'. In my own personal case, it is a testament to his writing ability and characterization that he actually makes me somewhat like and enjoy characters and factions I would normally loathe (or at least, not hate them.) Word Bearers, Night Lords, etc. I am not a Chaos Space Marine fan, yet I have generally enjoyed most every novel he has written. Although his first book (and this short story) as well as various tidbits from other novels like Helsreach make me wish he would write more than Space Marine stuff :P

He's also been very good as a 'devil's advocate' sort of writer when it comes to perceptions and approach to 40K. I've never been a fan of the 'current' iteration of Space Wolves by Chris Wraight (although he's not a bad writer.) as I 'evolved' on Bill King's work, and ADB's comments on the 'Wraight vs King' issue made it rather clear, to me, that personal preference played a HUGE role in that disgust, and that not liking something is not the same thing as saying it is objectively bad. He was also quite accurate in noting many people tend to conflate the two - 'I don't like it, so it means the approach is bad.' Its somethign I've tried taking to heart and stay aware of in my own assessments of fiction.




Page 83
Regicide is named after the chess-like game I feature a lot of people playing in 40K. The story’s set on Balhaut, site of the great battle that started the whole Sabbat Worlds Crusade. In revisiting this ground zero origin point, Aaron is also delving into areas that are now increasingly occupying me in the Gaunt books: the Blood Pact, the nature of the enemy, and the nature of the Crusade itself. Although set twenty-five years before the ‘present’ in Gaunt continuity, this story provides a powerful addendum to both the story of Warmaster Slaydo, and the revelations made in the novel Blood Pact.
'Regicide' is for me an interesting story title for so many reasons given the topic of the story. One meaning involves the meeting of the Archon and Warmaster (both 'kings'.) But it can also refer to the way the war is fought (like a game of chess, moving the pieces). But there is another meaning too.. the 'killing of Kings' which applies here as well, and in more than one context I think (particularily a metaphorical one, given Macaroths' elevation by the end of the book.)

What is also interesting is Abnett's comments re: The Blood PAct. This story gives us an interesting glimpse into the nemesis of the Sabbat Worlds Crusade we've rarely had up until the recent books (Traitor General, Blood Pact, etc.) and an interesting aspect of that is how there are as many similarities between Chaos and the Imperium in this conflict as there are differences. Indeed, much of this story (as a number of Abnett's own books in the Ghosts direct series.) play up those similarities to reinforce a view that Chaos is not just 'RAR BAD GUYS' - they have their own feelings, motivations, agendas, etc. Although I will note it does not neccesarily make them any less horrific, but those similarities add much-needed complexity to the story and that much valued 'gray area' 40K has always tried to occupy. And here the chess analogy can take another meaning - different 'colors' to mark opposing sides, but fundamentally the same regardless.





Page 90
His rank was senior sergeant. His regiment was the Argentum: also known as the Silver Kindred, the Warmaster’s Own, and – on the Munitorum rosters – the Khulan 2nd Huscarls, assigned as bodyguards to Slaydo himself.

He wore the same silver shoulder guards and ornate vambraces that the Warmaster wore, for his uniform was a lesser reflection of Slaydo’s own finery.
Slaydo has his own regiment of bodyguards, all storm troopers. Whether this is a distinct storm trooper regiment, or one formed specially for his purposes from other storm troopers, or some sort of storm-trooper like grenadier regiment raised from a world (whic the 'Khulan 2nd' would indicate) we don't know, but its an interesting hint that you can have regiments 'raised' that are basically storm troopers without having been Schola progenium (Again pointing to the 'Grenadier' aspect.) The fact they have chimeras rather than gunships may reinforce this.

(the Khulan regiments are probably raised after Slaydo's victory there, prboably in his honour. We can still infer, though, that regiments can raise storm trooper analogues to provide to the Imperium of course. Examples of 'high end' regimental tithings, really.)



Page 91
Each one was fat with armour plating and swollen with legions of troops – Guard carriers, each eager to be the first on the surface and disgorge its soldiers into the Last Battle.
IG troop landers.



Page 91
the years to come, when Balopolis was a shrine-city – a monument to the trillions slain over the Crusade’s course – the memorials for this invasion would paint a glorious picture. Ten days of victory after victory; ten days of unstoppable Imperial advance into Archenemy territory.
Implied that up to Balhaut (10 years) trillions had died. Whether this is civilian and military losses, and whether its Imperial and/or Chaos, we don't know. But it gives a good idea of the scale of the conflict, as probably less than half the Sabbat Worlds was reconquered at that point. we do know that at one point the SW region had 5 trillion people and 100 worlds, so if it includes civilian casaulties it matches up. And if it is military.. well... Slaydo must have amassed some huge forces from the locals since we knew he started out with clsoe to a billion troops at the start. :P

I'm guessing its Imperial losses (civilian and military) given they mention commemorating the sacrifices at Balhaut (as we saw in Blood Pact.) and they wouldn't commemorate the enemy :P




Page 92-93
"Such bravery," the old man almost laughed. "Such sacrifice. Hear me well and mark my words. No accounting, no retelling, will ever do these days justice. Balhaut will become a memorial after the victory we’ve bled for here."
..
"The walls are going down like pieces on a regicide board. We’re ready, Warmaster. This is it. We win Balhaut this day."
..
"The Palace will be ours, sir, but for a few thousand lives."

Slaydo drew his sword for the first time in four hours. Gold flashed as it caught what little light broke through the smoke-choked sky.

"Start with mine," the Warmaster said, and hung up the receiver without waiting for a reply. His blade fell in a chop, the order to advance.
ADB does a good job of painting Slaydo, as aside from Gaunt Flashbacks this is the only actual 'view' of him we get. Its easy to see how and why Gaunt is as he is, and why he admired Slaydo greatly, the two share a great many similarities.

Note the reference to 'pieces on a regicide board' - likely a deliberate reference. Its interesting that the officer he speaks to is a contrast to Slaydo.. Slaydo (like Gaunt) does not casaully embrace losses simply to achieve victory - his men's lives mean as much to him as his own, and (however foolish one might think it is) he takes those same risks if he can. That's what makes him Slaydo, and his response is meant to convey that.



Page 95
Yael snapped off a shot. His hellgun whined for the half-second it took to power up, and spat a spear of hissing energy skywards.
Hellgun requires half a second to 'power up' - or possibly charge - before unleashing a single shot. Probably reflects the use of a capacitor. If we knew the output we might estimate charge up.



Page 96
Carron rose up to take another shot. He was immediately lanced by three separate snipers. The first shot was enough to kill him outright, blowing mess from the back of his head before it even snapped his neck back. Carron collapsed in a heap that didn’t even twitch.
Chaos sniper fire. Whether las or projectile we don't quite know. Headsplosion is at least single digit kj, which could be easily ccounted for with a high powered rifle round (or analogue.)




Page 96
Commodus added his fire to Yael’s, shooting up at the windows.

[self insert - several short sentences of dialgoue follow]
...
Apparently, their return fire was drawing notice. A spray of solid slugs cracked around them, defacing their angelic protector all the more. Both Yael and Commodus ducked, using the respite to recharge their weapons.
..
Yael recharged first. He cracked off a shot in the direction their most recent attackers were firing from.
Again hellguns need to recharge between shots, and apparently the charge rate is variable. Whether it is dependent upon settings (charge setting, semi or full auto, etc.) we don't know, but it again reflects the time the weapon needs to charge the internal capacitor. Its not the first time we've known such to happen, and it makes a bit of sense - some weapons may be very powreful, but the limits on the battery design may require delays to allow suffificent 'power' to build up for those shots, or those burst of shots, or whatever. Lasguns are very versatile, adaptable weapons, but their performance is always dictated by tradeoffs (more power can mean more maintenance/shorter component life, fewer shots, reduced rate of fire, etc.)




Page 97
The Argentum had been pinned the entire time, taking casualties from the Archenemy’s last-ditch efforts – with no way to advance, and suicide to retreat. Such was the price paid by the Slaydo’s Own for ‘first in, last out’.

Each man and woman in the uniform was a veteran storm-trooper, hand-chosen by the Warmaster himself. With grenade and hellgun, every soldier accounted for themselves, raking the windows and walls with unrelenting firepower.
Again Slaydo's bodyguard are all storm troopers. Mixed sex force (regiment), and its implied he picked them himself, suggesting that perhaps the regiment was formed specifically for Slaydo. Although if they did they must have formed more than one (this one being the 2nd Huscarls...) and it still indicates its possible to form 'elite' forces from a world if they have such troops (And they can.) An example of such a tithing might be the Munitorum snatching up the priate armies/bodyguards of Spire nobility, or the up-hive PDF forces (think of the Necromunda novels like Junktion for the idea of 'up hive' forces, nevermind the spyrers and similar.)



Page 97-98
The sergeant lifted Slaydo’s silver breastplate, and there it was. A knife-sliver of sharp rock, stabbed into the old man’s stomach. A chance thing; no doubt ricocheted from the ground as the walls tumbled down.

..
"’Think of morale, you fool. We’re inside now. It’s almost over. Now shut your mouth and bind that wound, or... or I’ll find a new senior sergeant."
..

The Warmaster’s weary stagger soon became a lurching walk, then a subtle limp, and then nothing more than clenched teeth and a shine in his eyes. Spite and defiance drove him on where the pain should have driven him to his knees. Better than any of the memorials to come when this day was done, these hours exemplified Slaydo’s life in the eyes of the men and women serving him.
Slaydo again. He has conviction, and he thinks about more than just himself, or his glory. He isn't doing it for himself, he does it for the Sabbat Worlds and the Saint he idolizes. This scene (and the story itself) really play up the parts in the historical accounts (and Gaunt's recollections) about Slaydo pushing on (knowing he might die at Balhaut) simply to slay the Archon, even at cost of his own life. Like Gaunt, Slaydo knows the importance of symbols and appearance, and its value in motivating troopers. Gaunt and Slaydo also have that same slavish dedication to duty (or what they perceive as duty.)
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Page 98
Commodus had nailed the bastard in the throat from at least seventy metres away.
A possible indicator of the accuracy of Slaydo's bodyguard, no idea how to compare it though :)




Page 99
Argentum storm troopers fanned out around him, powered backpacks buzzing in the rainfall, hellguns thrumming in ready hands.
Hellguns with powerpack power sources.



Page 100
A toothless, howling maw opened far too wide in a face flayed down to bare muscle and bone. It saw the old man and screamed, birthing a hundred voices from its rippling throat.

How it saw him, he didn’t know. The creature had no eyes in its empty sockets – no eyes in any of its three faces, all of them howling, bellowing wordless bile through their cavernous jaws. Fingers with too many joints grasped at the air in twitching need, and the thing broke into a disgusting run on legs that seemed too scarecrow-frail to support it.

All three faces kept shrieking as it sprinted through the rain.
Archon Nadzybar. I actually can't remember (off hand) any other depictions of him, although he's quite clearly Chaos 'blessed'... and also quite insane, which is typically Chaos. This part raelly plays up those differences.. Slaydo (The leader of the Imperials) vs Nadzybar (the leader of Chaos) and really symbolizes the key differences, methinks.




Page 100
After a decade of crusading across conquered worlds and billions of lost lives, the Warmaster and the Archon met at last on Balhaut, in the eighteenth hour of the tenth day.
'decade' again of crusading and 'billions' lost, although that isn't inconsistent with the earlier trillions. Again context matters.




Page 103
Commodus was the one to drag the last cultist clear. He kicked her against the battlement wall, broke her jaw with the butt of his rifle, and ploughed three shots into her head.

Nothing remained above her shoulders. Lacking a face to spit into, he spat onto the medallion she wore: an emblem of the Archon’s three faces in crude brass.
3 hellgun rounds to blow apart human head (And neck) single maybe double digit kj (depending on design/effect of the hellgun shot, power settings, composition of the Chaos cultists' head, absence/presence of a mask or hlemet, etc.)

Note as well that we see he could fire three shots in a short period without recharging.. clearly the recharge may be dictated by variables - it charges up to discharge a certain number of shots, and the time required probably (at least) dictates how many shots can be taken before the capacitor drains dry. If we figure 2-3 seconds from the previous figures, and a half second at least to charge a single shot, we're probably talking at leat 4-6 shots per 'capacitor' charge.

This scene also shows that the Chaos bodyguard of the ARchon charged and assaulted Slaydo. This may be the scene where Blood PAct had Gaunt describing Slaydo's body being mutilated, which was conspicuously left out of the in universe 'historical' account. The idea of history not remembering the truth is a big idea from Blood Pact, and this story seems to echo that.


Page 104
"He was not my king. I am Blood Pact. I serve Gaur. But Nadzybar was the finest of us all, and I will mourn him for the rest of my nights."
..
"It grieves me that anyone witnessed him at his panicked, hopeless end. But the Powers willed it, else it would never have come to pass."
Blood Pact troopers existed decades before we saw them in the Ghosts. Heck it was hinted even some of the Guard forces (and Macaroth) knew about them (Macaroth is informed at the end.)

But what I consider important about this scene is the way the Blood Pact trooper regarded the three-faced madman they called Archon. He wasn't an abomination or a monster to the Sanguinary Worlds troops.. he was a tragic yet admirable figure to them, their version of Slaydo. Its an interesting 'point of view' shift that happens in a number of ways throughout the book (how the Argentum trooper regards his Blood PAct torturere - a beautiful woman), as well as their reactions to the death of a beloved leader. The Blood PActer's grief over Nadzybar's loss could easily reflect how Slaydo's own bodyguard regard his loss. The differences are there, and they are sharp, but there are enough 'gray area' similarities to make it difficult to draw simple good/bad divisions between Chaos and the Imperium. To me, that's great and distinctive writing, and it plays into the 'regicide' title beautifully.



Page 109
Commodus stood straight and saluted. He still avoided the Warmaster’s eyes, instead fixing his gaze on the man’s silver-white breastplate that encased a physique edging into portly.
..
The Warmaster seemed to voice his name through a nasal sneer.
Macaroth. I think its an interesting way to end the story given the title, and given how unlike Slaydo Macaroth is presentd. He's not a noble seeming figure, he doesnt inspire his men through symbols and appearance.. indeed his apperance is rather disappointing given Slaydo's, and I think its a deliberate comparison. It also reflects a transition of ideals, I think, and that is reflected here (The trooper bearing Liberatus, Slaydo's sword, makes it clear he doesn't think Macaroth is worthy of it.) As we've seen in the Ghost series, Gaunt and Slaydo's way of making war is considered quaint and outdated by a sort of 'modern' cynicism, but its what won those first ten years of the Crusade contrasted to how Macraoth is doing. This isn't to say Macaroth is a horrible leader (no such indication is made in the series I am ware of, although plenty dislike him.) but he isn't Slaydo, and that makes him less than ideal.

There is even a bit of tragedy in all this, as the Great and wonderful Crusade, and the noble ideals it was founded on, died with Slaydo on Balhaut, and Macaroth is pursuing the Crusade for his own reasons.





PAge 113-114
During long crusades, Guard regiments could stay on the front line without rotation for years at a time. Such was the size of the Imperium, whole seasons could be lost simply making shift aboard carrier transports from one zone world to the next.

The Ghosts of Tanith had been on front-line deployment for decades, without rotation, since the day their homeworld had blinked out in a hot puff of scatter-light.

He had been petitioning of late for his regiment to be rotated out of the line. He had become increasingly insistent on the subject.
...

They were tired.

He knew he was.
The Iron Star. This story is post Only in Death, and covers Gaunt's POV as he tries to struggle back to life from a coma. All the Ghosts make an appearance, including some of the dead ones. It has some interesting foreshadowing of events, and its interesting to have Gaunt's perspective in things, as it leads into Blood Pact nicely.

First off, we learn that some transits between war zones can last seasons (EG months). The Ghosts have been frontline for 'decades', without relief, although Gaunt post Jago is trying to change that. The conflict in Only in Death really took it out of Gaunt and the Ghosts, but especially Gaunt. Gaunt being 'tired' is an ongoing theme in this short story.





Page 122
Larkin shook his head. “You’ve seen a lot, that’s all I’m saying, sir. In your career, you’ve seen a lot of stuff, more than many men could stand seeing in a lifetime. You’ve seen destruction. You’ve seen death. You’ve seen friends and comrades perish right in front of you.”

“I have. I really have,” said Gaunt.
Larkin's appearance. What makes this notable compared to others is Larkin discussing why Gaunt is so fatigued. Its easy to forget that behind the hero, there are memories, so many memories, and lots of age. Gaunt's view as a hero (and his own views of the past) play up a big role in Blood Pact. He doesn't consider himself a hero, and it seems like his travails have worn him down like no conflict has in the past.






Page 135
“You’ve got to live, Ibram,” said Corbec. “You’ve just got to. That’s the way of it. You’re important, more important than you can imagine. You and the Ghosts, it’s going to be down to you. The whole Crusade depends on you. Win or lose, it’s going to be down to you in the end.”

“I don’t know what you’re talking about, Colm,” Gaunt said.

“I know you don’t,” said Corbec, “but you will.”
As I noted the 'Ghosts' Appear: Corbec, Bragg, Caffran and Feygor. Lots more have died over the course of the series of course, but they are the most notable Tanith. And this is the big part of the forshadowing I spoke of - throughout the series we've gotten hints from the supernatural that the Ghosts - and Gaunt - had a great role to play in the conflict, and we get that again here. Supernatural visitations, dreams, and all the like

Thus Gaunt's soul must be adrift in the warp, and Corbec and the others are trying to push him back to life. Not his time yet, and all that. Although Gaunt clearly is 'tired' and wants to rest... symbolic of his desire to surrender and just die.





Page 136-137
“We all go across,” said Gaunt. He turned to look at the four Ghosts. They were standing, weapons ready, in a semi-circle behind him, facing the bridge.

“That’s not how it works,” said Feygor.

“We can’t cross the bridge,” said Caffran.

“But you’ve got to,” said Bragg.

“I’m not going to leave you here,” said Gaunt.

“That’s just how it goes,” said Corbec. “You go on alone from here. You cross the bridge. We stay on this side.”

“Why?”

“Because we have to,” said Corbec. “We can’t cross over, but you can. Now go on with you.
Don’t make us wish we hadn’t made this effort. Cross the fething bridge, ’bram. Cross it.”
Pretty self explanatory. They're dead, Gaunt doesn't realize they're dead, and they can't return, nor can they go any further with Gaunt. He has to go on his own, returning to life regardless of whether he wants to or not.




PAge 147
They had once provided the finest cereal crops in the galaxy. There had been no compromising the product by hybridisation, no dwarfing, no genetic modifying for higher yields, and virtually no disease-resistance. Eighty per cent of production used to go to slab for the Emperor’s armies, but the rest, the glorious twenty per cent, had provided the raw materials for the foremost hop and barley brews in the Imperium for a thousand years.

The chest filters kept out the worst of the dust from the papery old-gene-stock hops that used to be grown in the galleries, and prevented the workforce breathing on the priceless crops. The best of the stilt-men were rewarded with augmetics that increased their agility and pushed up their quotas. Not only could they tend the tallest, most fragile reaches of the plants, but their telescopic shins could be extended so far that they could also cover vast acreages of the tunnels furthest from the habs and sinks without the need for polluting vehicles.
This is a short story by Abnett's wife, Nik Vincent. Its actually kinda interesting if tragic in the 'guerilla warfare' vein - chaos planet and having to survive as insugent cells like in Traitor General. Ther'es not much technical about it, but that's not a bad thing.. I could enjoy the story iwthout having to transcribe a bunch of stuff, which is rare.

The main thing I found interesting here was the brewing of beer as a tithe, and the augmetic stilts :P





Page 171
He couldn’t hear the krak of Mallet’s las, but he could see the blast residue of individual shots issuing from its barrel.
I wonder hwat kind of 'blast residue' lasfire emits? coolant gasses? Some sort of byproduct of a chemical laser?





Page 179
Nick Kyme’s gripping novels, including his dwarf-filled Warhammer adventures and his forays with the saturnine Salamanders for 40K, have won him armies of fans
Story wise I can never make up my mind about the Salamanders books, but I do like Nick Kyme's characteirzations. Humane space marines, and kickass Guard characters (he really sets off my Guard fanboyishness in that regard often.) To be fair I like his Sicarius Space Marine stuff more than I do the Salamanders Interactions between humans and non'Ward/McNeill Ultramarines is an interesting view.




Page 181
They were coming in hard – ninety birds touching down in minutes, scorching the sand to glass with the roar of descent jets.
..
Regara looked down into the dispersing smoke, through the growing dust cloud created from the Valkyrie squadrons’ downthrust.
Volpone Valkyries.. 10 troopers per valk, 900 troops total. Whethe rorganic to the regiment or borrowed we don't know. Given the quality of the gear they're shown to have, its not improbable for them to have Valks assigned to them.




Page 182
It was an encampment, several encampments in fact. Together they were more like a city, hundreds of disparate regiments, all part of the Crusade reserve, billeted in tents, prefabs, re-appropriated local structures or simply gathered in the open with only a few windbreakers to impede the sandstorms. Like borer-ants at this distance. Millions of them.
Hundreds of regiments and millions of troopers implied. Which would, on averag,e imply some pretty big regiments all told.





Page 182
By now the chatter over the inter-company vox, comprising, in the main, barks of dissatisfaction from the other Volpone officers at the explosive welcome they’d received, had ceased. Nine companies. Nine hundred men. A full battalion of the Volpone 50th awaited landfall in silence.
Volpone have personal comm-beads and 'company vox'. Also 9 companies represents a full battalion.





Page 182
"A collection world. Approximately one hundred and fifty-two separate regiments are in residence, of varying strengths and fighting viability. A depot, sir – Sagorrah has over three hundred promethium wells, a reserve of several million tonnes, vital fuel for the conquest of the Sabbat Worlds."
Clarification.. its actually 152 regiments, guarding some several million tonnes of fuel as a crusade 'strategic reserve.' I hope its not the whole reserve or they're lowballing it. I'm pretty sure they'd need more for prolonged operations givne the scope and duration of the Crusade.




Page 183
...as the Valkyrie touched down and the eighth through seventeenth companies of the Volpone 50th arrived at Sagorrah.
the names of the companies 8th thorugh 17th.




Page 186
"There are over a million Guardsmen stationed at this facility."
An average of 6500-6600 troops per regiment. Rather on the high end :P Probably more mixed formations though.




Page 187
The troops Regara saw pacing the grounds wore Departmento Munitorum grey. Their kit and posture suggested storm-troopers. It seemed a little excessive.
Munitorum troopers (or Commissariat troopers) kitted out like Storm troopers. Or they are storm troopers. Only the best for the Munitorum (the Guard can fuck themselves, lol)




PAge 191
City fighting was brutal. Under the right conditions, it could turn a poorly-armed force into a deadly one. Few Guardsmen relished it over pitched battle. Even trench warfare was preferable.
Guard view of City fighting and trench warfare... its a tossup which is worse :P





page 191
Poking the magnoculars through a gap in the shattered wall, Culcis could see all the way to the end of the street.
..
Grainy thermal imaging showed Culcis what he needed to see – six insurgents, three with autoguns, another carrying a makeshift burner and a team with a heavy stubber.
electronic binocs with thermal imaging.




Page 191-192
"I have eyes on," the lieutenant said into his micro-bead. He was no longer wearing his cap and had on the same type of low-brimmed bowl helmet as his men. He related coordinates to the other side of the street where a blind target marker waited.

"Light them up, Trooper Korde, if you please."

The marker aimed the laser sight of his hellgun according to his lieutenant’s direction. A beam flashed into the street darkness. Culcis followed it through the magnoculars and saw one of the cultists look down to the glow against his chest.

A few seconds later and the dense thwump of artillery filled the air. The view through the magnoculars was swarmed with white as the explosions from the mortar barrage overwhelmed its thermal imaging.
..

A smoking, fire-wreathed crater remained where the cultists had been a few seconds earlier.
More than a few interesting things. One, the troopers all seem to be using hellguns here, although they're also mentioned as using lasguns, so we might infer they're equipped fairly extensively with both, and its not just 'storm troopers' that seem to have them (Eg the 10th.) Maybe they're some sort of specialist or support weapons. Or maybe its 'hot shot' packs.

Either way at least some of the hellguns have laser sights, which can be used to provide accurate targeting data (or transmitting targeting data) to mortar teams for precision bombardment, not unlike Tau markerlights. Now the Volpone (being rich) arguably are a high-end regiment, but its worth noting its certainly possible to do.

Also I'd gather the crater is at least a good 5-6 m diameter.




Page 192
The men responded with short, sustained bursts, forcing the cultists down. Two even fell, shot through with hellgun beams.
Hellguns again, with considerable overpenetration. At least single digit kj.




Page 192-193
.. he went on to kick an onrushing cultist with his bionic leg. The effect was dramatic as the wretch was sent screaming ten metres backwards, crumpling in a heap with his insides a mulched mess.
Augmetic leg of Volpone major again showing they cna provide considerable strength enhancement :P




Page 193
He wore a stitched-together amalgam of flak armour, reused several times judging by the wear, and his footwear was little more than rags. The lascarbine he carried was old and poorly maintained. The sighter was ruined. Regara doubted he could have hit anything unless it was point-blank.
insurgent gear. Poor quality flak, and a poor quality lascarbine. Not sure if 'sighter' means a scope or iron sights.




Page 194
"Corporal, situation report," the major added to his aide. He had no desire to linger any longer than was necessary but felt it pertinent to check on their progress.

Speers pulled a data-slate from his pack and put it in front of the major. It showed a litho-pict mapping out a section of the slums. Regara’s five fire teams, supported by elements of the Castellian Rangers and Harpine Fusiliers, had penetrated and cleared the outer markers of the eastern approach into the sector.
...
As it stood, he had operational command and just shy of two hundred men at his disposal, spread over an area of several square kilometres.

...
"How are we faring, corporal?"

Speers regarded the data-slate, navigated through a few screens to get a wider geographical view of the area. "So far we’ve mapped thirty-two per cent of this quadrant, sir."

"And Captains Siegfrien and Trador?"

"Reporting steady progress. Resistance minimal."
Apparently the Volpone are keeping track of the progress (mapping, positions, and status) of other forces via data-slate. Something we have seen in both the Ghosts and the Cain onvels. Again reflecting the STatus and quiality of the Volpone regiments, equipment wise.




Page 195
..the Harpine tracking past in their green armour-mesh, stubby lascarbines held low in a grip suited to a crouched-running advance.
..
Most of the Castellians formed the rearguard, anyway, their mortars and autocannons providing vital long-range support to take out particularly entrenched insurgents.
Volpone's support elements. Note the use of 'mesh' armour.



PAge 196
..Culcis watched Jedion waste the comms-officer too. The man bucked, a ragged hole opened up in his chest and the lasgun went off.
Effect of pistol of unknown type.




PAge 197
Captain Trador was moving out of cover to try and restore order. His bolt pistol was in hand and his command squad were in tow.
..
There was no time to shout a warning before the Harpine captain and his men were chewed up by heavy bolter fire.

In a few seconds the Harpine command was reduced to a visceral mist by the chugging cannon.
Heavy oblter wipes out command team (4-5 men) in a few seconds. Considering thats probably at least a Megajouel or two per person (explosive efffects) if not more, we're talking 5-10 MJ over several seconds, although thats less kinetic and more explosive effects, I suspect, and we dont know how many hsots exactly. (600-1200 rpm maybe?) Still damn impressive. If we gow ith 4th degree flash burns its 8 mj per person, (both sides of body) and thats 40 MJ total over several seconds. Figure it fits somehwere between those two.




Page 197-198
..twenty cultists armed with autoguns and mesh-carapace filtered from their hiding places. These men were not the rabble the Volpone had encountered earlier, they were military-trained and well-equipped.
Note the Hybrid carapace and mesh armour usage, which must provide some good protection. Quite probably blood pact.



Page 199-200
A few seconds later, a cultist slumped forwards against the firing lip. Even from distance, Culcis could tell half the man’s head was missing.
..
Six more cultists fell dead with burn holes through their heads and necks.
..
The las-bolts from the shadows continued, both behind, in front and to the flanks of the rapidly crumbling enemy force.
Imperial las-fire. We dont know if its long las or lasguns (the saviours, the Kauth, a feral regiment) but one shot blows away part of the head (single digit kj at least) and puts burn holes through the rest Without significant explosive effect.





Page 203
Sitting at one of Refectorum B-62’s benches, idly fingering his Guard-issue mess tin and knife, Culcis was lost to his thoughts.
...
The Royal 50th had their own chef, of course, their own small army of retainers and staffers in fact. Culcis had chosen to slum it in the ranks.
Again signs of the quality and special status the Volpone have due to their aristocracy, which probably is typical of such 'high tier' regimental forces. I should note this is probably representative of the Volpone equivalent of the 'Camp follower's we've seen with other regiments (EG the Tanith.) Money and connections can count for alot.




Page 204
Evidently, the Harpine weren’t pleased. One, a big fellow as broad as the Volpone’s Colonel Gilbear, advanced on the corporal.

..
The Volpone were big, strong men, of fine stock, but this Maggon was a giant. The top of Speers’s shaven head only came up to the Harpine’s chin.
Meaning the Harpine trooper is probably over 2 metres, as are the Volpoen in general, given Gilbear in the novels was something like 2.5 m tall.




Page 205
Blood and tiny chunks of brain matter spattered Speers’s face as Maggon’s head exploded like a crushed egg.

Vengo was on his feet, a smoking bolt pistol in his outstretched hand.
Bolt pistol headsplosion.



PAge 210
Speers tossed Culcis a lasgun from the armoury, and the lieutenant caught it deftly, checked the power gauge and shouldered it before taking his leave.
Liek I said the Volpone seem to use lasguns as well as hellguns. Whehterh it is 'current' issue and they carry both, or if they mix and match we don't know.



PAge 212
.. two sentries emerged from their hiding place, each shouldering a long-las.

Culcis hadn’t noticed, but Speers had taken up a position by one of the tents, his lasgun aimed at the very selfsame spot in the hills.
As I noted the Kauth use long-las (interesting for feral regiments) as well as lasguns. And the Volpone have lasguns as well (Again.)




Page 213
No stranger to conducting interrogations, Speers had already removed his carapace breastplate and was rolling up his sleeves when the two officers entered.
Apparently Volpone troopers have at least partial carapace as standard. At least in this battalion they do.



Page 214
Drado was sweating, fingers itching on the stock and trigger of his lasgun.
...
Speers was already sneaking his hand to the laspistol attached to his belt.
Lasweapons instead of hellweapons again.




Page 215
..the space inbetween was littered with shells and las-tracer.
the visible beams of a lasweapon referred to as a tracer. Clearly the beam is massless with a sublight tracer byproduct! :P



Page 220
Suppressing fire lanced from the Volpone as they expended what was left of their hellguns to keep the ambushers at bay.
And we're back to the Volpone having hellguns :D




Page 221
A beast of a soldier, too broad and tall not to have been genhanced, was standing a few metres from the witch at the edge of the machine.
Giant soldier (bigger than the Volpone) obviously genenhanced. The Blood PAct clearly do that, at least. Possibly the Imperials too.




PAge 222
Whickering las-fire, the beams an unwholesome red compared to the purity of Guard blue, snapped at the earth around the advancing Volpone and their allies.
Lasfire is distinctive by color in this region of space. EG Imperials are always blue, Chaos always read. Man this would be so confusing in other novels.. :P




Page 222
Adamantine steel flashed against Chaos-infused iron. Only the fact it was two against one kept both the corporal and major alive for more than a few seconds.

ADAMANTINE STEEL.. yet another kind of steel, or a refernece to steel merged with adamanitum, like in the Salamanders novels (of course both were written by Nick Kyme...) It really just shows 'conventional steel' isn't terribly useful as a benchmark.




Page 229
Sandy Mitchell’s Ciaphas Cain novels are a source of constant pleasure for me, and proof that you can always find a new approach in a shared setting like 40K. They’re understated, subversive and very funny, and it delights me that the universe of Warhammer 40,000 can happily support a series that has humour at its heart.
I pretty much agree with Abnett's view on Cain. The interesting thing is this is more akin to the DH novels, more of a serious take with some light sillines.. but it still 'feels' Mitchell. I think part of the charm for me is that he's willing to play around with the setting, rather than obsessively sticking to some self-perceived notion of 'accuracy'.)





Page 233
..the junior Archivist on the other side of the polished wooden counter informed him, with the neutral inflection peculiar to lowly functionaries trying to appear not to relish the chance of making the lives of their superiors more difficult.
...
"As you instruct, honoured Scribe," the Archivist said, suppressing any trace of irritation which might have entered his voice; there were worse ways of wasting his time, which Linder could easily impose if sufficiently irked.
time wasting is a punishment in the Administratum. This is both hilarious and utterly appropriate and explains the bureuacratic and general uselessnees (my perception) of the organization. Nevermind the conflict.





Page 234
Shuttle Damsel’s Delight, grounded pad seventeen, Administratum charter. Twelve passengers, personal effects, cargo amounting to 497 tonnes (stationery sundries).
That would imply the shuttle itself masses somewhere on the high tens/low hundreds of tons probably, at least.




Page 235
. There were over seven thousand separate bureaux within the cloister, dealing with everything from the disposition of tithing revenue to the certification of left-handed writing implements, and with nothing further to go on, his friend might just as well be on a different planet.
Yet more reasons (if we needed them) for the bureaucratic inefficiency of the Administratum. again its actually quite consistent with that Cain-style 'absurdity' that 40K used to be known for, so I don't mind it. Its just so... pointlessly bureaucratic you could almost see it happening. I think its even hilarious because they mention a million tons of paper (literally) inside the department.




Page 242
" I’m from Vannick, and I was in one of the outhabs when the nuke went off. I’d just stepped into an underpass, crossing the Vervunhive road, at the time. A few seconds either way, and I’d have been vaporised, like everything else above ground. All my idents went up in the fireball, along with my home and my family."
Someone was present in (or under, at least) the Hive when the nuke goes off. This actually suggests it rather unlikely to be gigaton range. In a strict interpretation it wouldn't be more than a couple of megatons tops (although totally demolishing a city.. much less a hive city.. I suppose thats a matter of interpretation.) although its not a definite timeframe, it would make it unlikely that she spent - for example - ten or fifteen minutes crossing belowground, or an hour. Heck, it would be hard pressed (but not impossible) to justify several minutes. I suppose it really depends on how big an underpass you figure, how fast she moves, and how long you define 'a few seconds' either way to be.

Of course nothing says that the nuke ALONE has to blow up the city, either. Its not unheard of for 40K to have volatile power sources.



Page 242-243
..he could even picture the expression on his friend’s face as he shuffled the requisite pieces of data round the cogitator net..
..
Sitrus would have relished the challenge of getting away with it, although the risk of being caught would have been relatively low. Dealing with any hardprint copies that existed would have been a little more difficult, but not too much so; a Scribe’s robe could hide a great deal more than a few sheets of paper, and once they were gone, it would be easy to ascribe their loss to the turmoil of the war.
..
"With his access keys deleted from the system, there’s no way of telling which files he accessed."

He probably even believed that; a sufficiently devout tech-priest might be able to reconstruct them, given enough time to enact the proper rituals, but that kind of knowledge is well outside the purview of the Administratum.

Some indications of the security measures (or lack thereof) in the Administratum computer setups.. cogitator nets (networks?) and the like. I suspect it relies as much on the mindset and predictability of the Administratum (and conditioning) as anythign else. The Administratum never being wrong, and all that.




Page 249
I paused, groping automatically in my pocket for a packet of lho-sticks, before remembering I was definitely giving them up again. Probably a bad idea to light one up surrounded by a million tonnes of paper anyway.
Its pretty staggering to think how much paperwork alone (even as an estimate) that would amount to. Hundreds of millions of sheets, maybe.



Page 250
"I’m dying, Zale. For Throne’s sake, haven’t you worked it out? I was only a couple of kilometres from a nuclear explosion!"
..
"The radiation"
Lived at most 2 years after the event or so. We don't know what the context of this is although it implies a few km. whether from ground zero or the edge of the fireball, its hard to say. The odd thing is.. the radiation poisoning while not immediate would still point to non-high yields. The main problem is that as the yield gets bigger, the range ofr thermal (and eventually blast) lethality greatly outstrips the radiation dangers, so since she's not burnt to death but radiation poisoned, that would suggest she either was protected from the thermal effects but not the radiation, or the explosion was much lower yield (quite possibly kiloton range, which would also be consistent with the previous analysis.)

Either way its another indicator that 'gigaton' yields are unlikely.



Page 254
"We know she’s not from Ferrozoica, so she’ll keep. We’ll get around to her case in a year or two." Technically, I suppose, that was Obstruction of Justice, but there was no point in prosecuting her; she’d be dead before the case came to trial. Like I said, everyone’s guilty of something, even me.
Arbites showing compassion, of a sort. Thats really the thing about this story. For Mitchell this is a seriosuly grimdark story, but it still carries his touch. The Administratum guy ends up killinh his friend who was (to him) a traitor, but it also cost him the friendship of someone who was dying of radiation poisoned (and had been helped by that friend...) because he was doing his duty.




Page 258
Munitorum-issue chem lamps, those tin-plate models that unscrew and then snap out for ignition, have been strung along the roof line, and there is a decent rechargeable glow-globe on the table beside Gaunt's elbow.
Like is tays - munitorum lamps.




Page 258
The infantryman wonders if this was a mistake of ethnicity, a misreading brought about by cultural differences. Gaunt and the infantryman were born on opposites sides of the sector.
This is Caffran, which one presumes he means He and Gaunt were from opposite sides of the same region, which may again hint at the Sabbat Worlds being a sector.




PAge 260
When he'd been assigned to the Tanith, Gaunt had relished the prospect as it was presented on paper: a first founding from a small, agrarian world that was impeccable in its upkeep of tithes and devotions. Tanith had no real black marks in the Administratum's eyes, and no longstanding martial traditions to get tangled up in. There had been the opportunity to build something worthwhile, three regiments of light infantry, to begin with, though Gaunt's plans had been significantly more ambitious than that: a major infantry force, fast and mobile, well-drilled and disciplined. The Munitorum's recruitment agents reported that the Tanith seemed to have a natural knack for tracking and covert work, and Gaunt had hoped to add that speciality to the regiment's portfolio. From the moment he'd reviewed the Tanith dossier, Gaunt had begun to see the sense of Slaydo's deathbed bequest to him.
Gaunt's intentions for the Tanith pre-planetkilling. The interesting thing is that its implied Slaydo may have had deeper plans for the Ghosts than we ever thought before. Indeed it sounds very much like an experiment.




Page 262
"We were betrothed!"

"You'd signed up for the Imperial Guard, trooper. First Founding. You were never going to see Tanith again. I don't know why you had the nerve to get hitched to the poor cow in the first place."

"Of course I was coming back to her—"

"You sign up, you leave. Warp transfers, long rotations, tours along the rim. You never go back. You never go home, not once the Guard has you. Years go by, decades. You forget where you came from in the end."

"But the recruiting officer said—"
"He lied to you, trooper. Do you think any bastard would sign up if the recruiters told the truth?"
We learn they have recruiters... and they lie. I'm actually more surprised about Gaunt's reasoning, because whilst I am aware of those facts... I never really thought of warp travel tha tway when it comes to the Guard. There's a very 'Forever-War' approach to that, and in that context you might understand there could be other (morale) reasons for not sending your men back home (when their family, friends, society and culture will be dead and gone, society may not be as you remember, etc.)

Of course it may not be a total lie. we do have novels where that seems to be less of an issue (Imperial Glory and wives gettin ga regimental sergeant's pay back home, letters sent back and forth between warzone and home, etc. Heck that last bit was even in one of the Guard codexes.)





Page 263
Steamy smoke is rising from the cowled chimneys of the cook-tents, and he can smell the greasy blocks of processed nutrition fibre being fried.
..
Slab is pretty gruesome stuff. Pressure-treated down from any and all available nutritional sources by the Munitorum, it has no discernible flavour apart from a faint, mucusy aftertaste, and it looks like grey-white putty. In fact, years before at Schola Progenium on Ignatius Cardinal, an acquaintance of Gaunt's had once kneaded some of it into a form that authentically resembled a brick of plastic explosive, complete with fuses, and then carried out a practical joke on the Master of the Scholam Arsenal that was notable for both the magnificent extent of the disruption it caused, and the stunning severity of the subsequent punishment. Slab, as it's known to every common Guard lasman, comes canned and it comes freeze-dried, it comes in packets and it comes in boxes, it comes in individual heated tins and it comes in catering blocks. Company cooks slice, dice and mince it, and use it as the bulk base of any meal when local provision sources are unavailable. They flavour it with whatever they have to hand, usually foil sachets of powder with names like groxtail and vegetable (root) and sausage (assorted). Ibram Gaunt has lived on it for a great deal of his adult and sub-adult life. He is so used to the stuff, he actually misses it when it isn't around.
another chapter in the never-ending exploits of Guard Cuisine. Its still better than 'corpse starch' - unless they use that as a nutrition source (which this being the Munitorum, would not be surprising. Recall 'His Last Command'.) One assumes they do not do this automatically, but I wouldn't put it past the Munitorum either.

It still sounds better than depictions of Guard fare elsewhere, but its certainly not the best depiction we've had either. (but it can and sometimes is improved flavor wise.)




Page 267
"Make you eat crap instead of fresh rations?" asks Milo, looking at the mess tin.

"That too, probably," says Gaunt.
This novella takes place after the little meeting in Ghostmaker with the Bluebloods and STurm arranging the friendly fire incident. This novella features some of his apparent revenge on gaunt and the Ghosts, so it may be that better rations do exist.





Page 269
The Kosdorf securement is the sort of mission that could have been handled by PDF or a third-tier Guard strength.
..

..Sturm appointed Gaunt to lead the expedition to Kosdorf, a command of twenty thousand men including his own Tanith, a regiment of Litus Battlefield Regimental Units, and a decent support spread of Ketzok armour.
Gaunt's command. I wonder what BRU's are, as it sounds like something nonstandard and militia-esque. It also apparently is the bulk, givne the Tanith are probably 2-3 thousand and the Ketzok aren't bound to be much bigger.

Also mention of 'third tier' Guard forces (EG variation in troop qualities, which has its own tradeoffs) which seems to be likened to PDF. Heck we know the PDF can have 'tiers' as well (Titanicus.)




Page 277
They are wearing the armoured uniform of the local PDF, caked with black mud.
armoured uniforms.



Page 280
Gaunt can hear the hard clatter of full auto and, in places along the rubble line, see the jumping petals of muzzle flashes. The Tanith are eager, but inexperienced. The lasrifles they have been issued with at the Founding are good, new weapons, fresh-stamped and shipped in from forge worlds. Many of the Tanith recruits will never have had an automatic setting on a weapon before; most will have been used to single shot or even hard-round weapons. Finding themselves in a troop-fight ambush, they are unleashing maximum firepower, which is great for shock and noise but not necessarily the most effective tactic, under any circumstances.
Origins and quality of Tanith rifles, and the uses of full auto on lasweapons vs single shot.





PAge 287
"He's widened the aperture," Gaunt tells Merrt. "He's seen buildings ahead, and he's put a bit of reach on the flame, so he can scour the ruins out."
Flamers are variable focus/aperture.




PAge 289
"Never fought on a foreign front?"

"I've been taught about the barbaric nature of the Archenemy, if that's what you're worried about. All their cults and their ritual ways—"

"Corbec, you don't know the half of it." Corbec looks at him.

"I think they are Kosdorfers," Gaunt says. "I think they were, anyway. I think the Ruinous Powers, may they stand accursed, have salvaged more than kit and equipment. I think they've salvaged men too."
As we've seen of many novels involving Chaos invasions, Chaos has an ability to turn the locals into sources of manpower (either cannon fodder/low quality troops, skilled forces, labour, etc.) Its actually a non-trivial advantage for them.. sort of 'living off the land' except that it extends to manpower. Its an advantage in the sense that they don't have to always 'carry' the forces and logisitcs needed for invasions or conquests (They can 'make' it on site) but it also can have drawbacks (in a sense its very exploitative and may be very inefficient in all but the most short term. Of course as we've seen with Chaos in the Ghosts series, they aren't bothered by short term exploitation.)




Page 291
Against lengthening, lousy odds, he's committed his small force to the worst kind of combat, the grinding city fight, where mid-range weapons and tactics become compressed into viciously barbaric struggles that depend on reaction time, perception and, worst of all, luck.

The Tanith disengage from the edge of the concourse, which has become entirely clouded in a rising white fog of vapour lifted by the sustained firefight, and drop back into the city block at the south-west corner.
Differences in tactics versus the Tanith's specilaizations. They're better at longer range engagements (as we've seen throughout the series) but they suffer in open battles, static/defensive warfare, and many sorts of close quarters conflicts. Oddly, they get BETTER at close quarters as time goes on.. one migth attribute this to the VErghastite components of the Ghosts.





Page 293
He wonders if this place will mark the end of his life and soldiering career; a well-thought-of officer who wound up dying in some strategically worthless location because he didn't make the right choices, or shake the right hand, or whisper in the right ear, or dine with the right cliques. He's seen men make high rank that way, through the persuasive power of the officers' club and the staff coterie. They were politicians, politicians who got to execute their decisions in the most literal way. Some were very capable, most were not. Gaunt believes that there is no substitute at all for practical apprenticeship, for field learning to properly supplement the study of military texts and the codices of combat. Slaydo had believed that too, as had Oktar, Gaunt's first mentor.

The vast mechanism of the Imperial Guard, as a rule, did not. Slaydo had once said that he believed he could, through proper reform of the Guard, improve its efficiency by fifty or sixty per cent. Soberly, he had added that mankind was probably too busy fighting wars to ever initiate such reforms.

There is truth in that. Gaunt knows for a fact that Slaydo had a reform bill in mind to take to the Munitorum after the Gorikan Suppression, and again after Khulan. Every time, a new campaign beckoned, a new theatre loomed to occupy the attentions of military planners and commanders. The Sabbat Worlds, now it was the Sabbat Worlds. Slaydo had committed to it mainly, Gaunt knew, for personal reasons. After Khulan, the High Lords had tempted Slaydo with many offers: he'd had the pick of campaigns. He had turned them down, hoping to pursue a more executive office in the latter part of his life and work to the fundamental improvement of the Imperial Guard, which he believed had the capacity to be the finest fighting force in known space.

However, the High Lords had outplayed him. They had discovered his old and passionate fondness for the piety of Saint Sabbat Beati and the territories she had touched, and they had exploited it. The Sabbat Worlds had long since been thought of as unrecoverable, lost to the predations of the Ruinous Powers spreading from the so-called Sanguinary Worlds. No commander wanted to embrace such a career-destroying challenge. The High Lords wanted a leader who would stage the offensive with conviction. They sweetened the offer with the rank of Warmaster, sensing that Slaydo would be unable to resist the opportunity to liberate a significant territory of the Imperium that he felt had been woefully neglected and left to overrun, and at the same to acquire a status that allowed him much greater political firepower to achieve his reforms.

Instead, Balhaut had killed him. All he accomplished was the commencement of a military campaign that was likely to last generations and cost trillions of lives.
We learn that in a supreme bit of irony, Slaydo had plans to re-vamp the Guard to be less idiotic, if he had not died at Balhaut. We have no idea what the Reforms would involve or how, and what it would correct (we can guess, and the utility of those reforms is up for debate) but he apparently got outnmaneuvered by the High Lords... for whatever reason. Its interetsing becuase it suggests they have a vested interest in the Guard *not* working efficiently, whether its corruption, political power... who knows. So they trick Slaydo into his little crusade to sidetrack his attempted reforms, and get him killed.

I think it says as much about the variability of the system (or rather the inefficiency in which it handles things) as much as it does about the politics. The ability of the Guard to prosecute anything pretty much relies on any number of factors coming together - getting the right number of men (and the right kinds), the right equipment and supplies (and in the right amounts nevermind the sustained logistics), appointing the right kidn of officers, so on and so forth. It doesn't mean the Guard WON'T win regardless, because they're designed to win by attrition if nothing else (assuming they're willing to pour those resources in that is) , but the utlimate COST of the victory can be dictated by those factors. I think it reflects the disconnection of the higher echelons with the 'sharp point or the local conflicts, the unreliability of the logistics, the politicking and infighting amongst the officer corps (and the different philosohpies of warfare that can rise up from a million or mor eworlds..) The Guard is an attempt to impose some measure of order on a Chaotic system,a nd it is only partly successful much of the time. IF it could be more centralized (I'm guessing thats what Slaydo intended) it probably COULD be made somewhat better... but the nature of humanity and the Imperium is to resist such... and we're left with Slaydo dying.

it also reflects, I suspect, the way that Gaunt and Slaydo are meant to represent the 'old way' of doing things.. an outdated system that emphasizes honour and duty and inspiration, whereas Macaroth and his sorts (something we get conveyed in the stories starting with the 'Lost' sequence) are the 'new' way. It seems that 'experienced' military leaders are implied to be rare (At least int his part of space) whereas people who are 'political' (and may or may not be competent but inexperienced warriors) are more common. This may reflect indeed the differences between Slaydo and MAcaroth - something alluded to many times in this book.

We could also speculate that the High Lords actions reflect that even though the Imperium IS engaged in a war for survival.. it is an empire that is maintained by continuous conflict and warfare.. that 'siege mentality' that keeps it on a military footing, resources being siphoned off from worlds, etc. What would happen to the Imperium - to the High Lords - if they WEREN'T facing so many threats from so many directions? Conflict and hatred and external threats are a useful tool for keeping the Imperium largely unified, and having an efficient military could in fact hamper the crushing of those threats. If true, this would indicate that the High Lords deliberately sacrifice countless human beings and worlds (military and civilians) simply to maintain power.. which would hardly be surprising.

Oh and its implied that the Sabbat Worlds Crusade would cost 'trillions' of lives.. which echoes previous estimates (heck trillions had already been lost by the first decade, this means many more trillions in generations..) which gives hefty scale indications of the size/population of the region, the military/manpower resources poured into it over that period. and/or the simple fact that trillions can die in on eregion of space (100 worlds compared to 1 million.. less than a percent of a percent) and it still means fuck all to the Imperium (thousand sof crusades of similar scope, like Jericho reach would bean quadrillions lost over generations, etc.) tl;dr: The Imperium is probably quite fuckhuge.



Page 295
He... He feels the hairs prick up on the back of his neck.

The las-shot misses his face by about a palm's length. Just the slightest tremor of a trigger finger was the difference between a miss and a solid headshot. The light and noise of it rock him, the heat sears him, flash-drying the dirty tears and rain on his cheek into a crust.
Lasfire emitting heat some distance from Caffran's face - instantly 'drying' out the moisture on his cheek (but apparently not severe burns.. subjectively I'd guess a few cm away from his face. If we figure a 2 cm bolt, that would be 4-6 cm diameter 'thermal' effects. If we figure 10-20 cm 'wide' that might be between 125 and 377 sq cm 'surface area'. If we figure between 5 and 20 j per sq cm (around 1st degree burns, maybe mild second degree) that would be between 625 and 7.5 kj radiated to the surroundings.. at least in that instant. It probably would be towards the smaller 'flash burn' severity (we might figure the moisture protected Caffran) which might suggest several hundred joules lost to the surrounding atmosphere, but its not amongst the precise of calcs.

Even disregarding the probably sketchy math, it does indicate that thermal effects (burns and such) can extend for a considerable distance around the bolt itself, which could be important for things like cauterization and flash burns and the like.




Page 299
The big man comes up level with Corbec, head down. He's carrying the lascarbine he's been fighting with, but he's got a long canvas sleeve across his back. He unclasps it to slide out the rocket tube.
..
There's a younger Tanith with him, one of the kids, a boy called Beltayn. He's carrying the leather box with the eight anti-tank rockets in it, and he gets one out while Bragg snaps up the tube's mechanical range-finder.
Bragg. Whether his carbine is like the rest of the Ghosts weapons or specific to this conflict we don't know. Oddly specialist or heavy weapons operators in the past have been using pistols rather than carbines.

Also the missile launcher has a mechanical range finder here, as opposed to the 'wire sights' fo the Tread Fethers in latter novels.




Page 302-303
"With us. I thought you were trying to make something good out of what was left of Tanith."

..
"Anyway, it doesn't matter if we don't. All that matters is you do right by the men."
..
"That's all we want," says Bragg with a smile. "We're Tanith. We're used to knowing where we're going. We're used to finding our way. We're lost now. All we want from you is for you to find a path for us and set us on it."
Bragg lays out the needs of the Tanith to Gaunt, which starts the symbiotic aspect of their relationship, and what we've seen develop over the series. It can be said this story reflects those early days when the Ghosts and Gaunt were sorting out their feelings about ech other... they still had to establish that bond of trust and loyalty that would stand them in good stead throughout the series.





PAge 308
There's the whine of a small but powerful fusion motor, the unmistakable whir of a chainsword firing up. Gaunt comes in beside the scout.
Fusion motor for chainsword. I know its been mentioned multiple times elsehwere, but damn me if I can remember where.






PAge 310
They lay down a kill zone of las-fire that moves with the Tanith like a shadow. It burns through ammo, but it covers the retreat off the east boulevard and onto the main arterial route. They leave spent munition clips behind them, and the pathetic corpses of the enemy.
Las-cells seem to be expended and abandoned here, rather than saved and recharged. That may suggest they are of a non-rechargable nature, which would be an advantage in terms of energy storage (but would also rquire a constant resupply of ammo = you could not 're-cook' such clips.)

Of course its also possible they just abandon them to be recovered later when the battle is won, and abandoned them to avoid carrying excess weight. Its not like they hadn't already won.
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This novella takes place after the little meeting in Ghostmaker with the Bluebloods and STurm arranging the friendly fire incident. This novella features some of his apparent revenge on gaunt and the Ghosts, so it may be that better rations do exist.
There are better rations for officers. In fact Gaunt's very first scene in the novel series has him sharing a breakfast of ham and eggs ("Officer's rations") with Caffran (something alluded to in this short story, which ends with Gaunt looking for some breakfast).
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Zinegata wrote:
This novella takes place after the little meeting in Ghostmaker with the Bluebloods and STurm arranging the friendly fire incident. This novella features some of his apparent revenge on gaunt and the Ghosts, so it may be that better rations do exist.
There are better rations for officers. In fact Gaunt's very first scene in the novel series has him sharing a breakfast of ham and eggs ("Officer's rations") with Caffran (something alluded to in this short story, which ends with Gaunt looking for some breakfast).
I honestly hadn't considered that interpretation - I'd been thinking it referenced the Ghosts in general. Although what you describe may actually be more likely.
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LAst of the book updates for now.. I have a few OW ones I may do today or tomorrow, depending on when I have time.. I was thinking of delaying it but I'm SOOO close to the end for now I just want to chuck it all out. I mean this is my next to last last (for now, I think) Sabbat Worlds update (Titanicus next) - at least til 'Warmaster' comes out this year, and I only have a couple Only War ones coming up (with another new book sometime in the next few months for update) so.. might as well bring the long drawn out 'recent-ness' to a conclusion.

Minus 6th edition of course, but I'm still not sure how to handle that given GW' snew direction.

Double Eagle was the 'air fighting' novel, drawing characters from Honour Guard and Guns of Tanith both fighting on the same planet against Chaos in the Sabbat Worlds crusade. We learn more about some of those characters. Its more of a mood piece than one that actually progresses the story - its meant to show us the nature of the Crusade and the war from a POV that isn't the Ghosts or infantry or Gaunt. And in that regard it succeeds well. Its not as 'gripping' as some others (like honour Guard or Necropolis or Sabbat Martyr) but its a solid story for the characters and the action is fun (even if it is basically dogfighting. This was before Aeronautica Imperialis and 6th edition, after all.)

Same posting habit as usual. One of these days I'll go back to incremental updates :P

Part 1

Page 15
Closing to three hundred metres, Darrow rapidly calculated his angle of deflection, estimated he'd have to lead his shot by about five degrees. God-Emperor, he had it...

He thumbed the firing stud. The wolfcub shuddered slightly as the cannons lit up.
Estimated gunfire range for some sort of slug cannon.



Page 16
Darrow swore. The Hell Razor-class were vector-thrust planes. He was so close to it that he could see the reactive jet nozzles on the belly under the blade-wings. Out could out-dance any conveitnonal jet, viffing, braking, even pulling to a near-hover.
All fighters in an Abnett plane novel are vectored-thrust vehicles, with the advantages applied therein. In modern terms this makes them considerably more agile than conventional planes without vectored thrust. Heck, given the descriptions of their manuevers here, even the vectored-thrust planes in real life (like hte F22 Raptor) and their ability to take off without runways, they are superior at the thrust-vectoring thing. Of course considering that even aeronautica are supposed to be atmosphere/robit capable (albeit with rocket assist to reach orbit) that's hardly a surprise.



Page 23
...he, and thousands of other aviators like him, had been drafted here from off-world at short notice to save it from extinction.
Scope of the air forces on this planet to fight against Chaos.



PAge 26
Wound tight in his grav-armour, auto-pumps and cardio-centrifuges compensating his circulation, Obarkon committed his Hell Razor steeper still, adjusting the trim, slicing down through the air like a knife at point-eight of mach.

..

The stooping Wolfcub was a bright orange pip on his auspex display.

..
His face, so seldom seen, was a grizzled tissue of fibre and poly-weave reinforcements. His eyes were augmetics, linked directly to the warplane's gunsights by spinal plugs.
Chaos fighter ace, augmented all to hell. I'm guessing 'grav armour' is some enhancement of a flight suit, and the augmetics basically enable him to pull more gees than a typical (unadjusted) pilot would. Oh and augmetic, MIU linked gunsights.

Also engaging enemy planes at .8 mach, which is around 270 m/s roughly. I'm guessing he's probably engaging at far greater range than mentioned before 500-1000 metres at least.






PAge 26-27
At three hundred metres, the Wolfcub pulled out,...
..
Obarkon tilted his stick and nudged the reactive thrusters, pulling out of the dive non-ballistically, mocking the laboured struggles of the smaller plane. It had been locked in his gunsight for two minutes now. The target finder was chiming over and oevr again....

Attention...
Target found.


Target found.

Target found.


...

For the first time in nearly three minutes, the target finder beeped Lock lost... lock lost... lock lost...
Target lock sensors for guns, and again 300 m estimated range.




Page 27
"Reacquire." he told the auto sight.
..
The target pipper chased and bleeped.
...
Target denied…
Target denied…
Target denied…
Continues getting partial locks, but missing. Also giving voice commands for targeting (auto sighting.)




Page 28
Obarkon throttled up and soared around, using reactive thrust to viff his machine out wide on the Wolfcub's eight
- the HEll Razor using its "reactive thrust" to manuver - beginning one of many examples of thrust-vectored craft.




Page 28
Obarkon traversed the reactor ducts and powered off almost vertical, pulling out of the chase.
Again more thrust vectoring. IT seems that such craft have reactors of some kind that provide the thrust directly, and they are quite versatile (wide range of motion), which makes many fighters in this book (and similar) behave not just like conventional aircraft, but like VTOL craft or even helicopter-like it seems at times.



Page 29
Nor were they wearing the black and grey coats and flight armour of Navy aviators.
'flight armour'. Partly for protection I'm gathering, but also partly for gee-compensation I'd bet.




Page 35
Theda Military Air-Base South covered over twenty square kilometres of low land south-west of the city itself.
...
Vast defences ringed the field. Ditches and dykes, blast fences and stake lines, armoured nests for Hydra batteries, pillbox emplacements for raised missile cylinders.
size of airfield (compared to city) and its defenses.





Page 35
...to the south end of the field stood the great housing hangars and rockcrete armouries, to the north Operations control and the stark derricsk and pylons of the vox, asupex, and modar systems.
MODAR makes a return, alongside auspex and vox, suggesting its perhaps some sort of EM frequency stuff.




Page 37
a stage of flak-boards supported by empty munition crates had been raised along the west wall. A chart stand and a hololithic displayer had been set up on the staging.
hololithic displays. More examples of something supposedly lost tech not being lost.





Page 37
they were Navy pilots, wearing grey flight armour and black coats. Some of them sported augmetic eyes.
Flight armour and naval augmetics for aviators.




Page 38
Most of their flight-suits were reinforced with plating sections or coats of chainmail, and their heavy leather coats were often fur-trimmed
More 'flight armour' I guess, albeit more primitive I'd gather.




Page 42
"are five of the first [fighter wings] to arrive on station here along the southern coast. In the next seventy-two hours, a total of fifty-eight wings of the Imperial Navy… and its affiliates…" he added, with a nod to the Phantine, "will be deployed at airfields along the entire littoral. Forty-two fighter wings, sixteen bomber flights."
Scope of the Imperial naval forces deployed. If we figure each wing has about 20-40 craft thats eaisly thousands of fighters and bombers, consistent with earlier assessments.





Page 49
DAY 253
Interior Desert...
location of Leguin and his group as of now. Useful for math crap later on.




Page 49
The Fury of Pardua was dead. Its power plant had been running sore and hoarse for the last hundred kilometres..
At least a hundred metres of travel, even on a weak powerplant.




Page 51
Besides, simply as a piecee of military technology, tehse tanks were priceless. Precious few of the original units remained in active service. The great forge worlds were manufacutring modern pattern copies as fast as they were able, but the craft was getting lost, many of the tech secretes were being forgotten, or had never been recorded. LeGuin himself knew, as a bitter certainty, virtually no forge worlds were now capable of hand-crafting the specialist L/D cannon for a tank hunter.
Even tank hulls can be recovered or consecreated because they are PRECIOUS. Although this mindset tends to be amazingly inconsistent depending on the source, as we've seen plenty of examples of PRECIOUS TECHNOLOGY being wasted to no end (such as being given to the Krieg.) The regard seems to be dependent upon region and locale and the capabilities of the local industry more than anythign else. A place more willing to waste even relatively precious tech (like baneblades, Vanquishers, etc.) may have more ready access to such replacements than others who don't.




Page 51
Fury of Pardua was one of the 8th's oldest Leman Russ examples, painstakingly maintained and repaired for twenty-three centuries
..
..recovered and hauled away for full salvage or refit.
2300 salvaged tank hull. Built to last, aren't they?




Page 52
The Line was an Exterminator-type assault tank, its chassis the same basic pattern as the heavier Conqueror. Its turret-mounted twin autocannons could produce an astonishingly savage field of rapid firepower.
Exterminator.




Page 53
On the rare occasions one of that ancient marque came up for transfer or reassignment, it was usually a reconditioned hulk with lousy bearings, a rebored engine and some useless firework in place of the precious, specialist L/D cannon.
Destroyer tank hunter. Like the baneblade it seems to be the target of 'counterfeit' versions. Lousy forge world competitions.




Page 53
Even with the internal compartments filter-sealed, it was like an oven in the Exterminator. LeGuin dared not use the air exchanger for fear of depleting fuel even further.
Filter seals and air exchangers in the Exterminator.





Page 53
"Another forty kilometres, and we should be reaching rougher terrain… open karst. That'll mark the beginnings of the rift."

LeGuin nodded. The rift, and the mountains beyond it, represented the second and third of the great barriers the columns would have to overcome in order to reach safe territory.
Almost to the Cicatrice, and the Makanite mountains. Important later, as is the aformetnioend day. 40 more km to go range-wise.





Page 54
LeGuin popped the hatch and sat up, taking the electroscope Matredes passed to him.
electrotelescope. Powered bionics or spyglass I gather.



Page 56
A STeG armoured car wearing the dusty livery of the Enothian PDF ruptured like an eggshell and rolled on its side. The raking blasts atomised the front end of the water tanker.
PDF force using a STeG. Seems to be a local variant really, native to the Sabbat Worlds region but exported (or at least the pattern is local.)

Also effects of enemy gunfire on vehicles.




PAge 56
Leguin lost sight of Matredes, but saw Mergson clearly as he was hit. Everything below Mergson's waist vaporizsed in a blitz of flame and fibres.
Autocannon fire from a Chaos plane. figure at least 10-20 kg vaporized (literally or figuratively) at least 800 kj-1.6 MJ for non literal vaping, to several tens of MJ for literal. Whether its kineitc or explosive effects we don't know either.





Page 57
Raging, he seized the yokes of the main turret's twin mount, threw the autoloader lever and began to fire.
...
He couldn't see a thing through the prismatic sight, cerrtainly not a target.
Exterminators have autoloader.s Also prismatic sight, whatever that means :P





Page 57
Flight time was coming up on one hour. Twenty thousand metres of clear air down to the frosted mountains below them...
...

Strapped in his flight armour and breathing air-mix through his mask.
Flight armour and 20 km altitude.




PAge 57
According to the auspex, there was nothing in the air except their six plane formatin for a hundred kilometres.
100 km auspex range.




Page 58
Widowmaker had been drawn, but then switched out because of a vector duct problem.
apparently even the bombers have vectored engines.





Page 58
The navigator's sharp eyes switched between the terrain-scanning auspex and the cockpit view.
Terrain auspex in the bomber, for navigational purposes.




Page 59
..Judd gently armed the payload, and then snuggled up to the foresight reticule on his belly.
Bomber gunsight.



Page 60
Low fifty, in a Marauder doing 400 kph, boxed in by a granite canyon.
Speed of a Marauder in low level flight, I gather.



Page 61
It was a hefty beast, fourteen tonnes dead weight without fuel, with a blunt group of cannons for a nose and a body that swelled out into forward swept wings around the thrust tunnels of the double turbofan engines.
Phantine Thunderbolt described. Fuel must not be a significant addition, oddly enough.



Page 65
"And as we were about to go into turnaround and move out to make way for the Imperials.."
The offworld Navy and Phantine forces are thought of as "the Imperials", even though the planet is technically part of the Imperium. Again things are relative when it comes to the Imperial and ownership of worlds.. extent of contact with the greater Imperium seems to be a prime factor dictating such affilations.




Page 66
Eads had been blind for ninteen years. He had refused augmetic optics. There was a dermal socket behind his left ear which allowed ihm to plug into operation systems and "see" tactical displays during sorties, but that was the only compensation he made for his disability.

..

He used a sensor cane topped with the Enothian crest in worn silver, which trembled in his hand if he came too near to obstacles.
Augmetic optics for curing blindness, and an alternate MIU lnk to allow a guy to run flight operations. Oh and a sensor cane.




Page 71 - 72
[pquote]
"I meant the Phantine. The only founded Imperial Guard regiment who are fliers. BEcause of the nature of your home world, isn't that right?"

"Yes".

Seekan nodded. He raised his glass and rolled the spirit around inside it. "All other air wings come under the command of the Imperial Navy, except yours."
...
"There is no viable land on Phantine." Jagdea said. "Everyone learns to fly, men and women. Our ability is said to be intuitive and exceptional."[/quote]

The PHantine. The only (known) IG regiment with flyers. It's interesting to wonder why the Phantine come under the Guard rather than the Navy (as it is implied all aeronuatica craft are Navy based.) It could be one of those peculiar pissing contests between Guard/Navy territory, occuring because the PDFs tend to encompass both roles locally (Air, sea, land and even space) and thus offers lots of room for 'gray' areas, the Phantine would probably be one such gray area.
In this case the excuse seems to be that there is no land on Phantine, everything is in the air. Oddly not everyone we saw in Guns of Tanith was a pilot though - they had drop troops and airborne such (liek the Elysians) so they would have a PDF of sorts, so simply 'having no PDF other than pilots' cannot be the reason.

Note that if it can happen once, it probably can happen again, and the fact the Phantine are the only known such regiment is no barrier in a 'variable' Empire like the IoM.




Page 76
"Check your auspex. I'm tagging eight or nine contacts below us at twelve kilometres, south, inbound."

Sure enought, Jagdea's scope showed seven pippers, moving northeast under three thousand metres.

..

"Umbra Four-One Leader to Operations. Come in Operations."

"REceiving, Umbra four-One Leader.

Jagdea reached forward with her heavily gloved left hand and transmitted the auspex fix.
Transmitting auspex data. 12 km auspex range and 3 km alttitude.




Page 76
Jagdea kicked the afterburners a touch and rolled out, feeling the delicious punch of G
Implied multi-gee accel for Afterburners.



Page 78
Then in over the cross, balnacing the Marauder as he brought the vector nozzles around, switching from forward flight to vertical. A squeeze or two of viff, a hunkering, and then down.
Again vectored thrust even for bombers, making them rather agile, all things considered.





Page 82
Jagdea thumbed the gun-stud.

Serial Zero-Two lurched as the twin-linked lascannons in the nose spat off.

Brilliant daggers of light flew out of her machine, zagging down through the sky towards the bat.
Twin lascannon on Thunderbolt, note the implied recoil of firing. even allowing for a few mm of imparted motion to the ship, a 14 ton bomber would move at 14 kg*m/s. Without any gaseous ejection mentioned, we're probably talking momentum of the laser itself which would imply at least high MJ/low GJ per shot (depending on how many shots go off in that 'burst.'







Page 83
Nine of Umbra Flight were carrying rack weapons on this sortie, certainly nothing guided or air-to air. Jagdea would have to rely entirely on boresight shooting.
Mention of air to air and guided ordnance and the conspicuous lack here (and this novel.) Double Eagle is often cited as 'proof' that Aeronautica craft have no air to air missiles, although this is patently untrue: the short story 'Apostles Creed' has heat seekers, and we see missiles used in other novels (like Rynn's World.) Moreover the forge World 'Aeronautica Imperialis' makes mention of 'Sky strike' missiles, which are air to air.

But even humouring that, its not neccesarily as bad as that sounds. We know all Imperial fighters carry lascannon as part of their armement (Lightning have one, Thunderbolts two.) and as we know with the Airborne Laser, you can get tremendous potential range from a laser (The air force ABL, whilst against ICBMs, still has a range of hundreds of km.) and the speed of propogation makes guidance a non-issue. As to WHY they don't have such ranges here.. well range with a laser is a huge factor in its ability to penetrate and do damage against different materials. Some materials require getting closer to achieve efficient penetration and damage (especially non-heat ray lasers, as Luke Campbell describes.) The fact of close 'dogfighting' ranges even with lasers apparently would reflect the durability of Imperial and Chaos fighters. Indeed, given their ability to survive atmospheric reentry (and exit) routinely without aid, you would expect such resistance to affect their range.

Indeed, the cheapness of laser ammo, the ability to pack lots of shots into a small package, and (as I discuss below) the prevalence of vector-thrust craft in aerial combat may all conspire to make air ot air missiles undesirable in some cases - or at the very least, alter how air to air missiles operate in combat compared to how they do in modern times.




Page 83
She had the Locust for a moment. Then it viffed sideways on its reactor jets, a non-ballistic wobble to the side..
Chaos Locust fighter pulling a vector dodge. I think it's the Chaos equivalent of the Lightning.

It could also be noted that vectored thrust may be a big factor in why missiles aren't as common. The agility implied by vectored thrust can make the use of missiles difficult, because they simply cannot match the manuvers - you could of course vector the missiles, but their size and other parameters can mean fuel is used up much greater to match performance, and this cuts into its range and endurance. Likewise, the high missile velocities needed for long range AAMs (on the order of a km/s or so for some, IIRC) can also be a drawback against vectored thrust, as the speed affects the size and sharpness of the turn. A misisle for use against vector-thrust craft might have to be shorter ranged (or more powerful, or both) to compensate, and all of those can be a detriment to missile performance.

Besides, lasers are cheaper :P



Page 83 -
Her auspex began bleating. Something had a lock on her.

..

She dipped her wing and banked out, catching her speed and opening the reactor nozzles so she almost turned end on end.
Target lock again, and vectored thrust nozzels, this time giving a neat '180 flip' effect. 40k aircraft pull some insane maneuvers in this novel.




Page 84
He had a lock, and he squeezed. His machine rocked as it unloaded. Marquall swore aloud. He'd meant to select autocannon, but the toggle was across on las. He'd sprayed off almost half his battery load in on ego and not even hit anything.
According to Forgeworld, a Thunderbolt has 30 shots from its las packs. Whether thats total (15 per pack) or per pack (60 total) we dont know, but it would imply 15-30 shots in a matter of seconds, and implying fairly high ROF for aircraft lascannon. If we figure 2-3 seconds, thats around 5-8 shos per second (call it 3-4 shots per gun). If we figure 4-8 MJ per lascannon (DEmolisher lascannon estimate from Inferno) that would be at least 12-32 MW per lascannon at least.

If we go by the 'rocking' again, we're getting high MJ/low GJ discharge, which might imply tens or hundreds of MJ per shot.





PAge 85
With a jolt, he fired, wildly, missed.

Pearly las-shots dwindled away in front of him. A tone sounded. weapons batteries out. He'd just done it again. He hadn't deselected, and now his primary weapons were spent and dry. All thirty shots wasted in two futile bursts.
Again 30 las shots off in two salvos in a brief span of time. Alos it seems 15 las shots per pack.




Page 86
In an Imperium where diligently-maintained war machines were often ten, twelve, fifteen times older than their pilots or drivers, there were plenty of tales of particular planes or tanks carrying a jinx. Cursed machines, plaguing the lives of their users until they were themselves destroyed.
..
Six pilots dead or maimed at the controls, two bad landings, three major refits.
Implied centuries or miillenia-old craft are not unusual it seems in Imperial service. It says something about their durability and ability to be salvaged.

The hilarious part of this, in my mind at least, is that if so many vehicles get salvaged, and considering we've had ample example of shit-tons being produced as well...why are vehicles supposed to be so rare that foot infantry are a backbone? I blame Munitorum logistics. :P




Page 88
"Pull in, Eight! You're going to stall if you turn that tight!"

Silence. The horrendous weight of high G was preventing the kid from answering.

Don't black out… don't black out… Espere willed.
At the very least 3-4 gees.. untrained humans supposedly blakc out at around 4-6 gees, which is conservative here. Trained pilots can take up to 8-9 gees iwthout blacking out, and its implied here that more may be taken.



Page 88
There was the bat again, stooping in from the east, cannons blazing.Marquall's bolt shuddered as it was hit, but the impact seemed to settle him out.
Effect of gunfire on aircraft.





Page 88
Marquall saw what was happening about a second too late. Espere's plane rocked wildly. Piecees of plating sheered off, part of the rudder, part of the engine duct. The canopy shattered but stayed on. The Locust went by under them both like a comet, doing well over 500 kph.
Plane hit by locust gunfire, again gettng rocked. Note the mention of armour plating. 140 m/s velocity at least.. and several seconds worth of gunfire probably implies hundreds of metres range, with the projectiels travelling many times faster than that.




Page 88
She pulled into a crisp turn. The auspex collision monitor suddenly squealed.
- auspex collision monitor. Again aeronautica craft have alot of sensor doodads.




Page 89
...coming out of this, she'd have to pull three or four G's. That was possible, provided the pilot was ready for it. She tensed her torso and legs, the recommended "grrip" manoeuvre, a nd yanked the stick.
3-4 gees is possible, but its interesting considering that modern pilots could produce more. Maybe Jagdea doesn't have the right gear this time, or it was damaged. I mean most people take 3 gees on roller coasters, or so I hear, and vectored thrust must be even more accel-wise. Nevermind atmospheric reentry or escape. Again this may explain the 'flight armour'.




Page 90
...she saw the svelte ivory machines of the Apostles, prepping on their hardstands, their noses bristling with black, antler-like antennae arrays for night-fighting.
Night fighting sensors on planes.





Page 90
In the fading light, she cleared the bright flare path and settled her Bolt onto its stand, ,gusting down on swivelled nozzles with barely a bump.
Again vectored thrust make Thunderbolts behave very much like VTOL craft or tilt-rotors.





Page 91
Van Tull's bird went overhead, slowing to a perfect vertical decline on its smoking nozzles.
More VTOL stuff.




Page 91
The flank was raked to hell, the armour buckled and burst. Huge holes, ,scorched black, peppered the rudder and wing edge.

..

Pers Espere looked up at him. The cockpit armour was splintered. Every dial in the display was cracked. Espere's left arm was a tattered shred, his right a fused lump glued by the heat of the las-shots to the stick. The left side of his facee was a pin-cushion of canopy fragments.[
Damage to aircraft. Note the armour again, especially around cockpit. Also hand 'fused' by las fire, although we odnt know how close it hi.





Page 93
What bothered his sleep now were the new noises the Navy machines had brought with them: The shrill wails and spitting roars of vector-thrust craft coming and going.
More vector-thrust craft stuffs. Its not just phantine vehicles.




Page 94-95
The twelve machines came in low, following the guide path, and began to slow, turning their forward rate into a gentle hover as they adjusted their vector jets and settled down onto their designated pads.
More Vectored-thrust VTOL landings. This is a consdierable advnatage for establishing airbases, as you don't need big ass landign fields. Imagine how this would benefit carrier operations too.




Page 100
"I didn't report you to the Commissariat. I could lose command for letting you run off like this. FTR. Failed To Return. You're four hours late back at billet. The commissars would shoot you for this. Shoot me, too."
Phantine seem to have Commissars. PLANE COMMISSARS.




Page 102
Thirty thousand metres, not a cloud in the sky, just twenty-four silver giants ...
...
..they had a wing of Thunderbolts five thousand metres above them..
- Marauder bombers at 30,000 metres. Thunderbolts are 5,000 metres higher up providing protection.




Page 103
He took another look at the recon data.
..
Aerial recon had spotted a few probable heat-sources overnight..
...
According to the recon brief, they were now just fifty kilometres short of one of the most likely target areas, a high-density heat and magnetics return from a dune sea region called the Dish of Sand.
Aerial recon with thermal sensors, and 50 km long sensor range (magnetic and thermal.)



Page 103
There was a Navy Marauder - Hightail One - flying about twenty kilometres ahead of them. Carrying zero payload to remain svelte and fleet, its auspex boosted and amped, Hightail One was their pathfinder.
recon Marauder. Apparently its not unusual to have MArauders quite agile without payload, enough so that they are used to scout (probably becuase they have better sensor gear than fighters.)



Page 105
Viltry felt the shudder of the tail-mount unloading. A moment later and the top turret, now screwed over to face the rear, joined in. The twin heavy discharge did slight but strange things to Greta's ride, and Viltry compensated expertly.
recoil fo tail mount guns, and top guns, enough to shake the plane noticably. figure a few inches/sec velocity combined guns might impart some 2000 kg*m/s velocity. If we figure a muzzle velocity of at least 1 km/s thats a megajoulej of KE at least combined from the guns.




Page 105
The tail guns ceased fire, the targets having crossed beyond their traverse limit, but the top turret continued blazing as it rotated, following the passes the rear ends of the Hell Razors, bright with full burn, swept ahead and away from them, the nose turret joined in two.

"Cease! Cease Fire!" Viltry cried out. The bats were at three kilometres now and extending, pulling out of reasonable range.
Turret guns max range of ~3 km or so (at least 'reasonable' rnage. If we figure a few seconds for the shots to hit between 800-1000 m/s at least, possibly sevreal km/s. 1.5-2 km/s perhaps if we go by modenr examples (Several thousand yards effective range, 1000 m/s muzzle velocity implied)

If we figure that into the 2000 kg*m/s we get 'several' MJ KE for ugnfire now :P



Page 106
And K for Killshot had taken vector duct damage.
Again bombers have vectored thrust.



Page 110
"The Archenemy's got the Crusade trapped, over-extended. They're attacking here and at Herodor. That's the latest news. Either planet falls, and the Crusade line gets beheaded. "
This novel is taking place at about the time of Sabbat Martyr, if I remember my chronology right, so things are really heating up through the Sabbat Worlds region.




Page 113
The bats had locked them up so long, they'd finally been forced to ditch their payloads and turn back on the long, exposed slog for home.
...
Just a portion of the Dish of Sand heat-fused into glass.
Effect of bomber payloads. Seems to be highly thermal, but alot of thermal going on. Even if just 1 sq km was glassed to a depth of a handful of centimetres you'd be talking about hundreds of terajoules handily, perhaps thousands, and thats just to the ground.





Page 117
But the many soaring spires and finials were copper and electrophyte-sleeved detector columns, the braced flying buttresses housed pneumatic blast dampers, and where stained glass windows might have glowed, there were deep shutters of lori-cated steel. Operations dominated the north end of the field area, surrounded on three sides by metal forests of vox masts, auspex towers, and modar arrays, where the ground was baked dry and the air smelled cancerously of ozone and electromagnetics.
Again modar seems to be some sort of EM radiation (as does auspex and vox), and we get mention of said systems defenses.







Page 118
... he had to wait in line under the eyes of three burly guardsmen while a Munitorum servitor checked his papers, conducted biometric tests and issued him with a duty pass.
Ops security.





Page 119
These console stations were manned by Navy operators, some of whom were servitors plugged directly into the interface sockets of the displays.
..
In the centre of the chamber was the principal hololithic display, which projected a flickering tactical animation six metres into the air from a wide, brass-edged base unit. Around that stood a ring of semi-opaque glass screens onto which the modar returns were projected. A stern-looking placement operator stood ready at each screen, with a stylus in one hand and an eraser in the other.
...
...massive codifier stations that sprouted from the floor like standing stones. Each one, panelled with wood, its instruments turned in brass, had its own valve-screen pict display and hololithic repeater.
Servitors directly linked to equipment, more 'rare' hololithic displays not so rare, and more about modar returns. Oh and codifiers. All very electronic.




Page 121
The data on the screen altered. The cortical plug was simulating a version of the console in Eads's head so he could operate it.
The cogiator/codifier console also seems to respond to voice commands (or something does, as far as relaying data goes.) And connectors for MIU links.





Page 123-124
On Blanshers expert lead, they began to climb and move forward as their vector ducts gently swung around.
...

Marquall opened the throttle and felt his machine quiver, as if it had become enraged. Maximum thrust. He felt the gentle wobble as The Smear left the stand. Even though it expended masses of fuel reserve, Marquall preferred vector take-offs. He hated ramp launchers, and the bludgeoning smack of the rocket boost. He was thankful no ramps had yet been erected at Theda.

He glanced around, compensating for the wallow of his rising Bolt. To his left, Umbra Ten was coming up.

..

To his right, Jagdea lifted to vertical and Clovin, two stands down from her. Forty metres up, perfect station keeping.

...

Blansher favoured the slow, gentlemanly climb from vertical to full forward, but Jagdea preferred the hammer start.

..

Fifty metres.

..

Her machine roared forward, crossing the field at fifty metres, ducts violently thrown to level flight. Clovin gunned after her, then Zemmic. Marquall nursed his throttle then bulleted after them.

...
At full burn, they'd cleared the deadlands beyond the field and had already reached close to six hundred kph before they formed up and began to rise.

Fighter launch. They can do VTOL takeoffs as well as 'ramp' launches using the rocket boost. Agian this seems to reflect the Imperial disdan for runways if they can help it, although vectored thrust is (unsurprisignly) fuel hungry. Nothing is free, even in 40K with magic :P

Whilst in vectored thrust, they can hover, which is quite useful Reaching 600 kph in a short period of time at 50 metres, implies fairly significant acceleration. Even at close to 10 seconds we're probably talking close to a couple gees worth of accel.




Page 126
He breathed more easily again once the Hell Razor's augmetics took over the maintenance of his life. The spinal plugs engaged. The systems came to life, feeding their data of fuel tolerance, payload and energy into his cortex. His eyes saw through the guns now.

..

Displays lit in his head.
Again spinal links for chaos fighter systems, and the targeting stuff. Autosenses basically.





Page 126
The ion catapults rose to power and discharged. The pearl-white Hell Razor fired off the carrier deck into the sky. Only his grav-armour prevented Obarkon from being crushed into his seat. Behind him, like darts from a bow, twenty more machines launched into the desert air, some crimson, some mauve, some silver, some black.
Ion catapults.. I'm guessing some sort of EM launcher. WE also get mention of the grav armour, which works pretty much like how I figured. It might be something akin to the 'suspensor wired' suits we see in some novels like Warriors of Utlramar.




Page 126
Obarkon switched to his rear pict relays and watched Natrab aerie fall away behind him. The scale of it always delighted him. A leviathan, fully a kilometre long, bristling with weapon ports, riding across the duen sea on a hundred bogeys of five-metre diameter wheels.
Wheeled escort-sized aircraft carriers. You got to admire the scope at which Chaos (and Abnett) operate their land forces. :P



Page 127-128
According to the grid plot, the fuss was less than fifteen kilometres south of them. Jagdea immediately instructed them to crank to max and burn away down the valley. She called in Blansher's four as support. His unit was coming round in a patrol sweep forty kilometres north.
Auspex/grid ranges again.





Page 128
They were about four thousand now, and pushing it to twenty one, twenty two hundred kilometers.
2200 kph, which is supposed to be the top speed of Thunderbolts.



Page 128
"Gunsights" Jagdea voxed.

Marquall deftly activated and aligned his targeter.
targeter and gunsights mentioned again.



Page 128-129
The relief flight had been composed of six super-heavy Navy transports, Onero-pattern with an escort of six Lightnings, shipping desperately needed fuel to the retreating ground forces in the desert. Full of promethium jelly and motor oils, the lumbering six-engined transportts were ponderous, easy targets.

..

One transporrt was already down, having engulfed a square kilometre-plus of arable valley in its firestorm.

..

It [Onero] went up in mid-air. Bright, like a suddenly-lit sun, a massive torus of white flame so hot and fierce no shred of debris survived vaporisation.
Airborne fuel tanker planes vaporises, leaving a square km on flames. Navy transports. Again the Imperium in the persona of the Navy always has considerable airlift potential.




Page 130
Without even thinking, he clenched his thumb and felt The Smear shudder as its guns lit off.
lascannnons again. previous estimates still stand.



Page 132
"'They've been up for two hundred minutes, and have engaged once already. If we instruct, they'll have about five minutes of fight in them."
- Navy fighters (thunderbolts) having around 405 minutes or so of operating time, at least.


Page 133
The air was full of tracer and las. Her own lasers were spent. She toggled to hard cannons and stooped.
Las are primary, autocannons secondary. This reinforces that lasers may be substitutes for or analogues to long range weapons (Air to air missiles)



Page 135
The Razor screwed left, then punctured Blansher's wing with a flurry of hard rounds. ASche scored a shot that left a dark scorch on the bat's right wing. Then it rolled and fired again. Blansher's port engine exploded.

...

A las-shot tore through her wing.
PHantine thunderbolts taking damage.. but not seriosu enough to knock them out of the fight or eject. While armoured, its quite likley that damage location and possible redundancy does more for "kills" than anything, so either shot placement or volume of fire matter. Still considering what fighters are capable of, they're probably more durable than modern equivalents.




Page 136
He fired his Thunderbolt's rocket drive. It was there only for launch assist. No one ever used it in open flight. It was against text book directives. Fire your rocket and you lose control.
Why you dont use rocket boosters in combat. We also know its used for reach ing orbit. But apparently its multi-use.



Page 137
The mangled Thunderbolt impacted into the side of the Onero at five hundred kph. The fire wash lit up the valley.
Thunderbotl collision.



Page 139-140
She found herself facing a high-function domestic servitor, its silver form engraved with intricate chasework.

..
"Yes, commander." it replied, digitising the gentle, mannered voice of an elderly male through his voxponder. The servitor had recognised her rank.
Servitor, seemingly highly sentient and aware. Generally acts as a butler, including making announcements and suchlike.





Page 150
They were travelling low, skimming the dust seas, striving to remain under the modar and auspex cones of any land carriers hidden in the wastes. Meanwhile, recon Lightnings were flying somewhere above at their maximum operational ceiling, scoping for the elusive carriers.

- Imperial pilots fly low to avoid "Modar" and "auxpex" cones of Chaos land carriers. Both sides use it.




Page 151
Viltry looked at the scope. Enemy machines, definitely, heading south-west, twelve or more kilometres away.
12 km bomber sensor range against enemy aircraft.





Page 151
"They had them on modar about fifteen minutes ago, turning south over the Makanite Ridge."
Modar again.



Page 152
Nearly two hundred machines, mainly Hell Talons and Tormentors, with fighter cover.
...
With Umbra, that made about sixty Imperial machines committed. Others were inbound. More still, the majority, were engaged against two other equally massive raid forces over the Lida.
Imperial fighters square off at numerical disadvatnage and still pull off victory in this novel. It probably speaks to the different approaches. As we know in this series, Chaos tned to views warfare in a more individualistic manner, and that (and the aggression) can mean that only the best survive, andthey probably don't teach one another as well. The Imperium, by contrast, emphasizes formal training, teamwork, and all that other stuff, which can be a major benefit even when outnumbered. Also the Imperial tactics will emphasize survivability, which means that pilots learn from mistakes and gain experience more readily than their chaos counterparts.




Page 153
It was dead, but she stayed on it, switching to the quad cannons and raking it end to end. the Tormentor combusted and vaporised. Burning debris showered down towards the benighted city, but better for it to blow up in the air than come down on a ha block with a full payload.
Probably from its own ordnance. She killed it with a raking, precision las barrage, only setting off the ordnance with autocannon, but hard to say since fuel could be a factor. IF we figure a 40 ton bomber vaporizing (and ignore fuel) and assume iron composition, thats 300 GJ at least worth of ordnance.





Page 155
Hard rounds had torn through the machine's cockpit, shattering the glass nose and ripping Artone's torso in half
Hell Talon firepower. Again at least single digit MJ total for the barrage (or however many shots hit) .





Page 155
Then he opened up with his quad cannons, feeling the heavy slap of them retard his motion, hearing the breech blocks bang and the autoloaders rattle to feed ammo from the whirring drums.
Autocannon quads recoil, (Briefly) interfere with plane motion. Even assuming quarter to half a metre/second of backwards velocity thats still 3500-7000 kg*m/s of recoil for the autocannons (875-1750 kg*m/s per gun.) at 1 km/s velocity thats at least 2-4 MJ of KE for the guns, which is comparable (roughly) in sustained ROF to what a galting gun can achieve.




Page 156
A mass carrier. IT was almost a kilometre long, a huge slab of burnished deckign and raised ramps, bronze in the desert light. Vast wheel assemblies rolled it acros sthe dust. Viltry had been told the enemy called these behemoths aeries, as if they were home roosts for the murderous bats. It was a feat of mechanical genius, a juggernaut, a giant amongst machines.
Again escort sized mass carriers again. Amazing at the scale of Chaos engineering in the Sabbat Worlds.



Page 158
The carrier had seen the inbound Marauders, coming down onto it at zero height. Hundreds of anti aircraft batteries tracked round..
flak and tracers for the Mass Carrier.



Page 158
Viltry glimpsed the trail smoke of missiles banging off from the carrier.

Wordlessly, he hit the chaff switch, and clouds of glittering, distorting material puffed out of Greta's launchers. Then heat-flares too. Near-miss explosions shook the airframe.
Chaff countermreasures and flares against anti air weapons.




Page 158
A rocket struck Miss Adventure and killed her dead. The torn wreckage and hull sections, moving at close to mach one, cartwheeled over the desert floor, raking the sand, spitting flame like a firework.
Bomber moving low level at almost Mach one, collision impacts at that speed and isn't totally oblierated.




Page 158-159
Every single bombardier had placed his drop perfectly. Vast eruptions lit up the deck, puncturing the armoured ramps, blasting flak mounts out of their sockets, toppling lifter assemblies and crane gantries. Someone - Viltry's guess was Widowmaker - dropped their clutch into the command spire that rose over the top deck section. A massive fireball spread out, felling the spire in ragged chunks.

...
They came in with rockets now, turrets blasting again. The wing-loads loosed, and snaked off on spiralling trails of smoke. There was nothing like the same weight of flak on them now.
The rockets splashed, sheeting fire and hull fragments into the desert sky as the Marauders went over.
...
Most likely, one of the rockets had peneuated the magazine or the drive section. The carrier spasmed, shook, and then incinerated in one stupendously bright flash.
The Shockwave almost knocked Halo out of the air.
- 4-5 Marauders carry enough payload to fuck over a land carrier.
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Part 2



Page 160
The cafe door opened. Beqa looked up from the slates she was reading
Either the slates belong to the cafe/restraunt she works at, or she owns them. It's rather interesting in the latter case, since she apparently can afford slates but not a decent insulated coat to protect her from the cold.





Page 181
The habitent they shared was one of almost a hundred and fifty camo-skinned shelter domes ...
...
More shelters, camouflaged supply dumps, Hydra AA batteries where the crews waited silent and alert, the veiled shapes of warplanes under shimmer netting.
.

camo'ed temporary airbase. Again the benefits of vector-thrust craft.



Page 183
Navy pioneer units and Munitorum workcrews had built a surprising amount at Gocel. Prefab hab modules, defence batteries, bunkers and covered hangars nestled under the trees and the ubiquitous shimmer nets. Modar stacks and vox masts poked discreetly above the leaf cover, or had been raised as cable-form aerials, cleated to the trees themselves. Clearings had been cut, dozens of them, each one levelled and decked with heavyweight vulcanised matting: thick grey material rolled out to form temporary hardstands.
...
Unless unshrouded for launch or landing, each matt-decked clearing was all but invisible from the air thanks to the camd-awnings.

Bulk landers, for support crew transfers, base supply, and fuel and munitions deliveries, used the wide, muddy beach of the lake shore, not needing to stay on station for more than a few minutes.
...
Sentinel power lifters, striding through the mire, did all the base's heavy lifting and carrying.
The FSB had a decent ring of Tarantula sentry guns watching the forest around it, as well as two dozen Manticore and Hydra anti-aircraft batteries. With the PDF troopers needed to man all these, the thirty pilots, the fitter teams and forward operations personnel, Lake Gocel FSB had a population of over two hundred.
Assembling said base. Very prefab, very modular, very well hidden. Rather imrpessive really.

Note the tarantula sentry guns and the use of manticores and hydra for anti air. Apparently they're PDF issue.






Page 185
"In the event of a cover warning, it will illuminate and, ,as required, silently alert or wake you by a gentle, non-harmful electric pulse."
bracelet tag units. Wake up the pilots if there is an emergency, but also give indications when it is all clear.




Page 188
The Cicatrice, 06.50
Location of LeGuin and his Pardus as of day 261, as noted on page 179 Important for later stuff.




Page 189
"Turn zero-six-two west. Contacts presenting at nineteen kilometres and six thousand. Wait for my order to rise."
Thunderbolt auspex.




Page 191
It fired twice, gleaming streamers of bolter fire, but she dodged out of line each time and finally managed to throw it by hitting her speed breakes and viffing almost to a standstill.
Again thunderbolt agility due to thrust vectoring.



PAge 191
Her grouped shots ripped out its nose, then wrenched off a wing-section. As it began to wobble, she fired a thrid burst that hit the locust directly under the cockpit mount on the port side. The entire cockpit assembly exploded. An ejector system must have fired, because she clearly saw a burning object fly straight up and out of the stricken bat then fall away like a meteor. Empty, ruined, its pilot already incinerated, the Locust folded up and rained down onto the forest as a hundred thousand burning scraps.
Effect of gunfire 'incinerates' pilot. AT least single digit MJ range to incinerate (as side effect) if just badly burned. Hundreds of MJ if cremated.




Page 192-193
Flying at zero over the canopy at close on four hundred kph, cordiale whooped as he finally got a fleeting lock tone.

..

At precisely the same moment, his target's shock-wave scared a flock of pink birds out of the trees. Cordiale flew smack into them. They hit his plane like cannon shells, . Plating fractured. The canopy smashed. One engine shrieked as feathered missiles clogged the intake and bucvkled the whirring fans. There was a mist of blood.

...

The canopy was wrecked and the nose armour pummelled. A team of fitters was spraying retardant foam into the clogged, burning engine. The fore-part of the Thunderbolt was a mass of sticky black blood and tattered feathers.
we dont know the mass of the birds, but it doesnt do serious damage, it seems. assuming the same case as later, we're probably talking more than a kilo... 1 kilo bird at 112 m/s 112 kg*m/s momentum and 6 kj of KE. Implies impact like a 'cannon shell', which implies momentum (probably not KE) equal to that impact. Equal to 100+ gram bullet at 1 km/s, which is roughl about where modern aircraft cannon go, roughly. 60 kj or so per shell at that.






Page 194
It was kind of like looking out across the Scald from the ports of a Phantine hive,
Phantine hives mentioned, because its a hive world.


Page 199
"What day is it?" Viltry asked.
"Two-sixty-two." LeGuin replied.
"I've lost… three days."


Again timeframe. Important for later stuff.


Page 201
"I know, but we're in the mountains now. Two days, Emperor willing, a nd we'll be breaking flat ground on the north side."
On page 188 LeGuin and his tank crew save Viltry three days ago. They're in the Makanite mountains as of this quote (day 262). On day 253 (mentioned earlier) they were 40K from the Cicatrice on day 261 (again, as mentioned earlier.) The Double Eagle maphere I'd guess some 2000-2500 km across the Cicatrice, and 1500-2000 km for the moutnain (depending on angle and location). Not beyond what is known for a Russ off-road (forge World's 21 kph) but this is also very rough terrain and its unliekly it is all straight line

Inidicative of long range nonstop speeds, and also operational ranges of Russes (and other vehicles) which is consistnet with other known sources.



Page 201
In full flight armour, Van Tull, Del Ruth and Marquall arrived
The Phantine wear flight armour too.



PAge 202
"Large sections of the land retreat are starting to come clear of the mountains. In the next few days, a major evac is going to gear up, getting them across to the Nnorthern coast. Recons show several of those columns coming this way, intending to cross the Saroja west of Gocel."




Page 204
"Observe emergency procedures. Stabilise your intermix and activate suppression jets."
...
He hit several switches, disarming his weapons and payload, sealing his tanks and injecting a neutralising chemical flow into the rocket tanks so that the primed and volatile chemical propellants couldn't accidentally light or trigger late. It would take hours to wash the tanks out and recharge them.
They use the rockets to launch off portable short ramps. Again they don't seem to care for runway, and the tanks are reusable.




Page 206-207
Auspesx showed nothing in the sky, except the three Raptors sixty kilometres east.

...

"I have a hard metal return, point two west, four kilometeres." Van Tull voxed. "Its cold."

...

Auspex showed no heat sources. No engines, no life.
Auspex are thermal, magnetic, etc. Also range once again.



Page 207
"Coordinates please" Jagdea replied. The squirted data flashed up on her main display. "Received, Operaations."
Again data transmission between fighters and base.


Page 211
Two enemy tanks atomized, their warloads kicking off.
TAnks blow apart from payloads. If we figure vaproization, tens or hundreds of GJ total? Without knowing the kinds of tanks and what they carried its harad to say, and that assumes its vaporization too.




Page 212
"Herodor? Where's that?"
"Down in the Khan Group, about nine weeks from here."
nine weeks between HErodor and Enothis. tens or a few hundred c maybe as a rough guess.




Page 214
A mass bombing wave, perhaps five hundred machines, was passing over like a slow, heavy storm cloud at about ten thousand metres. Two more great swarms, equally large, were following it, ten kilometres back.
size of Chaos bombing force. Three waves of approximately five hundred craft each. (olr at least five hundred, probably more)




Page 215
Hell talons, with lurid paint-schemes, were already screaming down on the beleagured Imperial ground forces, spilling out munitions pods that lit up the desert with blankets of fuel-air explosive. Tanks, weapon carriers, trucks and men all burned.
Chaos using FAEs.



Page 216
She rolled back, corrected her speed, and fired again, ripping las-shots through its aft section. The whole machine disintegrated, a dry, fire-less burst of metal parts and fuselage sections erupting with a cough of smoke. Large pieces of debris whickered backwards across her path, too fast for her to avoid collision.
Lasfire blows apart aircraft without explosions involved.




Page 217
She saw the chute now, the Raptor pilot, swaying down through the coiling smoke.

He burst.

He spurted apart, like vapour, like shredded meat. His chute ripped into tatters and collapsed.

One of the unknown pattern enemy machines whipped past, flank guns still firing.
Enemy gunfire explodes/vaporizes pilot. Again at least single digit MJ (if we figure flayed skin to bone at least a good 8 MJ) vaporization could be triple digit MJ Consistent with lasfire, but it may be explosive shells for all we know.




Page 217
She hammered around after the long-necked killer, but the G was too much
..
She started to grey out, even though she was now steady and level again. She was light-headed.
Graying out from gees. I'm guessing 5-6+ gee maybe?



Page 219
THe violent turn was putting nine and a half Gs on h er machine, so much that the electric autoloaders couldn't raise ammunition to the cnanons.

..

At nine and a half, so weighty the actual gun had slowed down, she'd have choke d and died a messy, stupid death.
nine and a half gees this time, I guess I overstated. Also electronic autoloaders, overdone by 9.5 gees.



Page 221
"The Phantine fliers are Imperial Guard. An exception. an oddity. Their world is - how can I put it - just sky. So when they raise Guard foundings, most of them are airborne. They're not Navy. Not now, never will be. You have no jurisdiction.
Again the reasons why the Phantine exist. And again it seems more politics than anything, because we know the Phantine produce more than just aircraft. They have PDF and drop troops (heck they have jump pack troops.)



Page 223
Day 263
The Makanites,
The Imperial convoy is apparently just clearing the mountains now, and onto the plains, close ot the start of the Lida river. Again important for timeframe-related calcs.


Page 226
Thousands fo hectares of field-systems had been burned black by uncontrolled firebomb damage. Farms, villages, entire townships had been levelled. There were stretches of forest where nothing remained but blast-splintered trunks protruding from cindered earth. Craters, many filled with rainwater, punctured the landscape for kilometres.
Effect of Chaos bobmardment. Not sure if it means that they've blasted km wide craters, or kilometres covered with craters. One hectare is 10,000 square metre,s so that means tens of millions of square metres (tens of square km) burnt. Even with mild guesses I'm guessing that involves terajoules at least total.



Page 227
It had starrted to rain, and auspex had refused to give a clean track.
...
"Track reading. Confirm track reading for hostiles."
Alert is given, but the column is having difficulties findign the enemy due to the rain.




Page 228
Pintle-weapons, elevated cannons, the few Hydra platforms still carrying munitions. Small arms opened up as well, men standing up in the back of trucks to unload lasrifles into the sky.
Anti aircraft measures. Just like the uplifting primer says Implied range of lasweapons hundreds of metres to maybe a km agianst airplanes.




PAge 229
Viltry flinched as one of its [Talon's] shells glanced off the Line's fore-armour.
Aircraft gunfire can't peentrate tank armour.




Page 230
"Bear in mind this isn't a dedicated AA vehicle."

..

"I mean, we don't have a Hydra's elevation, or targeters. I'm just trying ot throw up some fire."
...
Viltry sat back, getting used to the prismatic sight....
Line of Death doesnt have targeters, but it does have a "prismatic sight." As we knwo from the IA books exterminators can be used for AA roles.




Page 230
"You're thinking that they're going to move like an arrow or a dart, but vector-trhust don't do that. They'll come up or to the side in a weird way.
Again the advantages of vector-thrust craft in AA.



Page 231
"Another one!" the loader shouted, looking at an auspex repeater.
The Russ Extermiantor has its own auspex.




Page 231
THe moment the four long-barrelled autocannons of the Hydra found the enemy machine, the targeter system took over and held the guns right on it. On powered traverse, the Hydra managed to maintain heavy hits for one hundred and five degrees of turn.
Autotargeting on Hydras.



PAge 238
"contact. Strong, inbound, twenty kilometres."

He sent the signal to the other Bolts, and their auspex systems tracked the lock.

...

"Operations, are you seeing this?"

"Copy, Umbra Lead, but with no more detail than you've got."
auspex ranges, and transmitting data agian.



Page 240
The sky lit up with gunfire traces. Marquall saw the Lightning. It had been shot up, and was trailing long streamers of hot smoke that had blurred the auspex track. Waldon was at its six.

About seven hundred and fifty metres behind them, two Locusts were closing in, weapons pumping.
Auspex are thermal again. Also 750 m range for gunfire. Considering the planes are probably moving at a good sevreal hundred meteres per seocnd, not to mention the plane they are pursuing we're probably talking in excess of a km/s velocity for shellfire.



Page 241
Marquall saw two hot lights flare up to his port side as Blansher and Jagdea hit the burners and blasted towards the incoming formation.
- t-bolts have afterburners as well as vector thrust and rocket boost. Useful toys :D




Page 242
He squeezed the gun stud, then rolled hard, getting into grip position instinctively as he pulled four and a half negative.
4.5 negative gees pulled in a turn.




Page 243
Nose up, Blansher's machine shuddered and yawed as las-shots chewed into its tail fin.


In desperation, Blansher executed a vector brake, but up rather than down, so that the two bats whipped up under him.
Again vector thrust allows lateral and vertical motions without changing orientation much (if at all) for evasion.



Page 243
She took three hits that kicked the tail of her Thunderbolt high and caused a mass of alarm runes to light her display.
Impact of gunfire imparts considerable momentum to thunderbolt. That would imply many hundreds, if not thousands of kg*m/s worth of momentum per hit, although whether it was lasfire (explosive vaproization), shell detonation or kinetic impact we dont know.



Page 243
She was set on quad already. She fired, a sustained burst, enjoying the way the shudder impaired Zero-Two's stable flight.
Again gunfire recoil is significant to affect the motion of the plane.




Page 249

"Auspex returns paint them sixty kilometres south and moving fast.
Base auspex's range against aircraft.



Page 251
All through that long, humid night, the personnel of the base had moved with a single purpose, crating up equipment and spares, bagging possessions, collapsing habitents and getting them stowed, deactivating secondary detection systems. The prefabs would have to be left, and the mats and the ramps probably. Certainly the ring defences. The pilots would fly the planes out, the transports would extract the rest.
But, but but.. the Imperium can always replace humans! It can't replace tech! IT CAN'T!.
All joking aside, there is a conditional here. Pilots are hard to replace in this air battle, especially experienced ones, so an argument can be made for preserving them as much as possible. Crew would be a nice bonus.



Page 252
.. yanking out his service pistol and a belt of battery clips.
'battery clips.' Must mean laspistol.



Page 254
Marquall and Asche, decently covered, opened fire into the charging figures and killed both of them. It took a surprising number of shots to stop the enemy shock troopers. The neccessary blasts exhausted their clips.
Apparnetly either the Chaos trooper's armour is very resistant to laspistol fire, or they are just resilient and resistant to pain and injury. We're easily talking dozens if not scores of las-shots per pilot per soldier and given that las bolts can blow out skulls.. that says something.



Page 254
Just before eight, they heard the sound of Navy mass-lifters powering in across the lake. The huge transporters settled on the shoreline mud and opened their gaping maws to accept the lines of aircrew personnel, fitter teams and Sentinels.
Mass lifter transports. Also seem to be vectored thrust (or tilt rotor)



Page 255
Las-rounds ripped out of the trees. Racklae's number two dropped, his head fused into a misshapen blob.
If we figure 2nd or 3rd degree burns across even just half a surface we're talking at least 5.6-12 kj at least, probaly more. Thermal damage though and we dont know how many hits to do that.




PAge 263
"Nine-One, rise to ten, bearing five-eight-five. Rimfire, make your track eleven-two. Say again, Quarry Leader. You're breaking up. Switch to channel four. Understood, contacts west of you at nine kilometres. Brass Flight, correct and descend to two thousand. Bat group under you, turning east, three kilometres. Sixteen contacts, you should have visual. Confirmed, Lancer, I show you as attacking."
..
"Counter track. flight. South-east, two hundred kilometres, closing. Formation of forty. Modar reads heat-wash patterns as Locusts."
Role of controllers in the warfare. The controllers oversee and guide the battle, providing much needed assistance to the individual pilots. And 200 km range for sensors.




Page 267
"Operations, this is Umbra Leader. Umbra and Raptor elements now under me as one flight. Do you have us?"

"On the modar, Umbra. Good and clear. Adjust heading three points and climb to eight thousand."
Modar again.



Page 268
Hundreds of machines whirled and danced in the sky across ninety cubic kilometres of space.
Fighter air battle. We're probably talking about 4-5 km per side ranges, implying that gunfire engagements could be across a few km easily.




Page 271-272
The town was called Nivelle, a market burg on the broad flood plains of the Lida some sixty kilometres south of Ezraville.
...
Once the column had passed down onto the decent hard roads along the Lida, the going had been good, despite cratering and the constant threat of air attack. They'd met with relief units along the route, which brought them much needed food, medicae supplies and fuel.
We know from the last "update" they'd just about cleared the Makanite mountains, and it was day 263. Day 264 now, and they're nearly to Ezraville. The map gives a rough (straight line) of between 2000-2300 km or so by the scale between the Makanites and Ezraville. It takes them at least a day, but less than two to cover that distance, although with some form of road they actually can make good speed. Call it maybe 50-60 kph on-road, which is not impossible for a properly kitted out Russ (right engine type, modified engine, etc.)

Again implied range and time figures not inconsistnet with known performance parameters.



PAge 272
Operating at rooftop height, Munitorum lifters and Valkyrie caniers passed overhead regularly, zipping back and forth along the column. Many were extracting the more seriously wounded for treatment at the coastal hospitals.

Munitorum directives had ordered the columns to Ezraville where mass-barges and VTRPs were waiting to evacuate them to the northern shores.
within like.. five days I think, they've been evacuating the air forces and land forces and PDF from the area. Gives times and scope of deployment and evacuation capabilities via airlift for Imperial forces.

Also note the medical evac/airlift in this case.



Page 274
LeGuin and Viltry had to jump down and break up a brawl between the crew of a Gerzon regiment halftrack and the men from a 44th Light Chimera that had accidentally rammed it.
Regimental halftracks.



Page 280-281
:"Apparently, Ornoff's decided it's time to quit the coast."
...
"The mass land evac is now well underway. Theda's almost empty, the population fleeing. We're giving ground. From the islands we can keep our bases out of strike range of the enemy for a while, and keep them off the evac fleets. "
..
"We're flying the Bolts out at 09.00 on the 268th, three days from now, situation permitting."
Implied range limits on enemy fighters and bombers.


Page 284
The mass-barges were enormous cargo ships, belching smoke from their stacks, their open bellies laden with armour and carriers.
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The VTRPs - Vertical Thrust Raft Platforms - were cololssal. Each on was an armoured rectancle five hectares square, suspended over the water by monumental vector engines at the corners and edges. As they slid up to the quays and dropped their metal ramps, squadrons of armour rolled onto them.
...

An entire regiment strength could be sawlloed onto one raft.
Sea-mobile transportation capacity for the Guard. Also seems very temporary/modular, which makes sense as moving wet-navy ships even in 40K starships would be hard (nevermind landing them)




Page 283-284
Langersville...
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"Theda. How far, do you think?"
LeGuin consulted his chart slate.
"About three hundred kilometres east."
Day 265 About a day to cover a distance from Ezraopolis to 300 km from Theda. Oddly the map seems to suggest something in excess of 3000 km distance, even allowing the 300 km difference. So I'm not sure this would work out as a genuine calc, even for on-road speed, because it would be in excess of 125 kph to be within a day. MAybe if it was slightly longer, but even then it would be far higher than typical, and inconsistnet with the other cases. I'd say its probably less (maybe 2000-3000 km) and closer to a day and a half or tow days. Close to 2 days and 2000-3000 km would be 50-70 kph, on road. For a modified Exterminator tank, and some APCs that should be possible.




PAge 285
"Any chance of rockets?"

Racklae shook his head. "Between you and me, sir, munitions are getting pretty low. We're okay for hard rounds, but all the rack weapons are going to the Marauders."
Implies air to air weapons probably, and it explains why no Air to air missiles, probably.



Page 294
Massive, multi-vectored drop-ships were sliding in across skies above the eastern suburbs. Thousands of dots wer showering out of them, like windblown pollen.

Storm troopers, on jump packs.
jump-pack equipped storm troopers, and vectored-thrust (I assume thats what multi vectored means) drop ships. Airborne assault 40K style!



Page 295
A sonic boom split the air like the muzzle bang of an artillery piece. A Hell Talon streaked long and low over the field, and left a crop of furious blasts in its wake.
Implies supersonic passage, perhaps, or at least near-trans-sonic.



Page 297
A clutch of submunitions detonated forty metres away killing a dozen people. The pressure of the blast-wave knocked Eads and Darrow flat.
Implied blast effects of submunition weapon, what kind we dont know.



PAge 296
More planes launched, mainly Thunderbolts. One of them was hit by a seeker-rocket as it tried to lift, caught fire violently, and belly-flopped down into a loading bay, killing at least twenty ground crew.
seeker-rocket, probably air to air munition from Chaos fighter (we hear about those in Apostles Creed.)



Page 302
Ducts angled to vertical, Marquall eased open the throttle and brought Double Eagle up and away from the ground.
Again vectored thrust stuff. I sure did make lots of quotes like this.



Page 304
It was five hundred metres lower than Blansher, and about the same distance ahead. Blansher hit the throttle, punched back into his seat, and dropped low, flicking on his targeters and activating his gunsight. He selected quad. He didn't want to risk hitting Del Ruth with lasfire if he missed.
...
Blansher tore down, levelled out, viffed slightly to adjust, and got the tone ping he'd been praying for.
His thumb pressed hard.
Implied range of perhaps 700-1000 m range or so, depending on angles and such.



Page 318
They were rising to a bout a thousand metres when the Cyclones antiquated detector system emitted a warning beep.

"Someone's got us!" Jagdea cried.

"Where? I can't see him?"

"I don't know! What does the auspex say?"

"This bird isn't equipped with an auspex."
It does have a target lock ability, though, not bad for a primitive craft. :P




Page 325
The auspex was also alive with air contacts
..
Marquall could see the patterns of a large dogfight going on, twelve kilometres south of them, and another, more condensed, nineteen kilometres to the south-west.
Sensor ranges again.



Page 327
He switched on the targeters and lit his gunsight. Guns on, las selected.
Plane targeters again.



Page 335
"Reinforcements are en route from the Khan Stars. Due in eight days. The Imperium is on the back foot, but Enothis is far from lost."
eight days tranist time from Khan Stars. If we figure 10-100 LY, thats 456-4500c roughly.



Page 337
"Praise be the God-Emperor and the diligence of his Munitorum. Despite the urgency, they got a hell of a lot of equipment out of Theda at the end there."
Not surprising that the Munitorum would get equipment out, but that they got so much out (and efficiently) might be :P


Page 340
"The Navy could resource you a proper augmetic implant, but we don't have much time. Certainly not enough time for you to undergo implantation surgery."
...
"He's going to wire up the weapons systems to a voice activator. It'll take a little getting used to, I realise, but you've got some serious familiarisation to do anyway. Bottom line, Kaminsky, your guns can be voice controlled."
Augmetically fird guns, MIU properly.. which doesnt seem an uncommon Navy modification. Voice activation this time instead as a substitute. And this is an 'in the field' modification so to speak at that.



PAge 344
"Vectoring gives us all sort sof tricks we can play in the air. The bat got you just then because it viffed out under you. And if you'd done the same, you'd probably have evaded."
Benefits of vectored-thrust in combat once again.



Page 345-346
"Navy reserve has no one airworthy. The handful of able pilots who have come in with the evac have already been assigned to Navy flights. So I asked the Munitorum for lists of airworthy Commonwealth pilots here on Lucerna"

Eads chuckled. "You can't do that. Navy doesn't take pilots from the PDF."

"Because the Navy believes it is an elite service and chooses to draw only on its own. I know. That's what the Munitorum officer told me." Jagdea said. "The thing is, the Phantine XX isn't Navy. It's Imperial Guard. An abenation, but one that permits me the scope to recruit from the PDF if I choose."
- Once more this leads to a rather amusing situation. I mean, if there are PDF air forces, why aren't they recruited from by the Guard, if not the Navy? I understand that "air forces are the province of hte Navy", but the Phantine show that there are exceptions. Hell Drop troops, Grenadiers and Storm Troopers show there are exceptions. They may not be common, but I dont think they would be quite as freakishly rare as the Phantine are made out to be.

Politics. It drives everything in the Imperium, and makes anything possible.



Page 349
Wings from Onstadt were coming in on a major fight to the east, and everything Viper Atoll had was lofting against a thousand-bomber wave heading out across the Sea of Ezra towards Limbus.
- Chaos is throwing a thousand-bomber wave at the Imperial forces.




Page 349
There was a boom like the end of the world, and eight Thunderbolts slammed up into the air from a hangar in the cliff beneath them. The throaty roar of the formation's afterburners shook their diaphragms.
Once again mention of T-bolts having afterburners.




Page 352
. He smiled as he got a clean lock ping and started firing.
The Thunderbolt tugged hard, its airframe pulsing as it discharged its cannons.
Again recoil of autocannons shaking the frame noticibly.


Page 355
Viltry throttled hard and came back up through the formation, this time with his guns alight. Firing impaired his climb rate, but it was worth it.
Effects of firing on plane manueveirng. Again.



Page 379
"We've just gone to primary standby. Long range auspex has detected a significant background temperature rise in the air above the southern coast."

"Meaning?"

He shrugged. "Maybe an awful lot of engines just started up at the same time."
Again thermal auspex, and implied considerable range



Page 381
"Climb to eight, Umbra. hold formation. Make your speed two and a half."
If we draw context from the last time 2200 kph was mentioned, we might figure 2500 kph now for Thunderbolts. It could be this is with afterburner. Or maybe this is just exceeding 'codex approved' safety speeds (IA stats get exceeded for various reasons all the time.)



Page 382
The auspex started showing a mass of contacts at fifty kilomettes. She fiddled with her gain control.
...
"Umbra Flight, this is Lead. Mass targets at fifty kilometre. Climb to ten thousand and let's go in onto them. Targets for all."
50 km auspex range again.



Page 382-383
"Five kilometres and closing," Jagdea called. "Hold steady. Keep scanning for fighters.

High altitude seemed empty, by visual and auspex, but there was a huge mass of returns from the lower level.

Could there be that many machines in the air, wondered DArrow, or was his auspex faulty.

"Umbra flight, weapons live, sights on, targets below at four thousand. Stoop and sting.

The thunderbolts peeled off and went into their attack dives. Nose down, reaching maximum velocity, Darrow saw the clouds stream away. Below them, the bombers. His auspex had not lied. The air was studded with massed bomber formations.

"Attacking!" Jagdea voxed.

The air lit up. Festoons of tracer streams hosed up from the enemy formation, filling the air.
impiled range of maybe 4-5 km for gunfire, or at least a possible max range. Diving may make a difference there, though.



Page 373
He fought to raise the nose. It was a huge effort. He gripped the way Jagdea had taught him, but still nearly blacked out from the G.
Again blakcout from ge forces.




Page 387-388
Ranfre's bird had sailed through the shot-storm of the bomber pack. Every bolt round blasted out by the tunets had missed it, except the one that had shattered its canopy and burst Ranfre's skull.
Bolt round headsplotion, turret style.



Page 389
They blitzed into the pack and killed most of them in one pass.
So fast. Marquall felt almost stationary, even though the speed gauge said he was topping eight hundred.
800 kph probably. 222 m/s.




Page 393
Travelling at seven hundred kilometres an hour, his plane tore into another flock of startled seabirds esrupting from the low rocks. Each one weighed a kilo or more, and they shredded his nose cone and front plating like jackhammers. Two annihilated his right engine,a nd one punched through his canopy, shattered the gunsight and hit him square in the face, driving his goggles into his skull and snapping his neck instantly.
700 kph now impact with a kilo+ of bird (well multiple birds) Thats at close to 200 m/s too
tens of kj of KE and hundreds of kg*m/s worth of momentum eaisly. Collisions can be a bitch, especially since intakes aren't totally immune from this, nor are cockpits.




Page 396
"We go up as soon as we can. Hunt stragglers, and steal some altitude before the seocnd mass comes in."

"I'll see if Racklae can scare up some rockets." Viltry said.

"You'll be lucky." Jagdea laughed.

"But with rockets, we could seek out a mass-carrier and have a go."
Again rockets, although in this case they don't seem to be air to air :P




Page 401
Even as the giant craft died and burned, its turrets kept firing. Del Ruth felt her bird shudder as something hit the underside of her nose with huge force, tearing the stick out of her hands for a moment and knocking the plane's atittude through twenty degrees.
effect of gunfire on Thunderbolt.



Page 402
Van Tull had to fly an almost complete figure eight before he shook a purple Razor, then almost immediately got the drop on another, chequered black and white, that had lined up on Scalter. As the chequered hostile vaporised, Scalter peeled away twoards a heaby bomber, firing on it from its seven.
fighter 'vaporized'. how or why we dont know. Probably not gunfire, since that would be consistent with other depictions unless this one has some unsuual armament (EG plasma guns.)




Page 411
Vander Marquall, travelling at over nine hundred kph, came up over an atoll's flat top, head on.
He went right across Darrow's plane and blazed his quads on sustain at the white bat dead ahead.

The furious fire needed no angle of deflection. Obarkon's machine flew striaght into it, without any time to evade.

For a millisecond, the pearlwhite Razor deformed. Its multi-punctured hull shredded. Stress fractures peeled away armour like dead skin. The blitzing cannon shell vaporised the pilot. Then the engine and weapons batteries detonated in a cataclysmic flash.
900 kph now, plus however fast the enemy fighter is moving. That it strikes in a fraction of a second (how long we dont know, its probably NOT a millisecond though) probably means high velocity for the shell. vaporizing pilot can mean at least MJ range for the shell (single digit at least even for non literal vaporization.. triple digit for literal.)




Page 415
During the Battle of the Zophonian Sea, Imperial air losses were nine hundred and forty-eight compared to seven thousand eight hundred and forty confirmed Archenemy machines.
Again kill ratios seem to favor Imperial pilots, for the reasons described above. Training and coordination vs numbers and aggression.
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Well lengthy delay between updates, but I decided I'd drop by enough to throw out 'Titanicus' - or at least the start. This is one of the few official 'titan-centric' novels, although like most Abnett novels it tends to overlap different elements of the Imperium (or rather its military). Its as much about the AdMech and forge world in question as it is about the Titan Legion, and perhaps has more to do with the inter-personal dynamics and politics of said Forge World, how it relates to the Imperium, and the lives of people in that place.

Events take place, unsurprisingly, during the Sabbat Worlds crusade, with the forge world being invaded by Chaos (unsurprisingly.) The planet's defenders have been routed, the enemy has Titans, and so the Crusade deploys reinforcements including, of course, Titans. The story has a great many similarities to Double Eagle in that there is no one central 'set' of protagonists: we have PDF militia, tank crews, AdMech and Imperial officials, and of course Titan crews all taking part. WE also have a growing schism between the view of the Emperor vs the Omnissiah (whether he is the same being or if they are different.) which is quite focal to the story even amidst a planetary invasion.

I figure on at least two or three updates, maybe the second being a double if I get impatient.


Page 18-19
Daric Goland knelt down in the mire and fumbled with the auspex set. His wet fingers kept slipping on the handheld’s fascia.
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The auspex started to give Goland a partial bounce, a freak return.
..
The damaged screen was now only showing topographic solids and the energy wash of the fires.
PDF troop with a handheld auspex unit. Seems like it might be active given the mention of 'bounce' and 'return' but its hard to say. It does at least pick up thermal signatures (The fires) and physical objects (topgraphic)


Page 20
" I daren’t send you the precise co-ordinates because they’re listening."
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"The enemy. They’ve synched into all our comms and systems. They’re listening to us!"
The Chaos forces are capable of tapping into and monitoring Imperial comms.


Page 21
"We are routing six Vultures to your position."
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"Vultures aren’t worth a damn! We’ve got engines here! Three Reavers, maybe four Reavers, and a Warlord too! "
the Orestes PDF has Vultures available, but they do fuck all against Titans.


Page 22
Something loomed in the sheeting flame. It had the rough shape of a man, a man magnified until it was over thirty metres tall.
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Masonry debris scattered like shingle off a shin with an eight-metre girth.
The height of our aforementioend Titan. It could be a Reaver, or it may be a Warlord. Forgeworld and Apocalypse have Reavers and Warlords at 22 and 33 metres approximately, whislt other sources (EG Heretiucs) had Warlords at closer to 40 metres. Others have noted greater heights. 8 m wide shins would be useful if we knew what it was to scale off of.


Page 22-23
It swung down its smouldering right limb, locked it out, and opened fire.
A turbo-laser on auto sounded like the death scream of a sun. The hailing, incandescent blast pattern overtook Xeres Five PDF like a surge tide as they ran for their lives down the back street. Caught in the rolling blitz, fleeing troopers ignited and evaporated almost instantly. The onslaught levelled the entire length of the thoroughfare and ripped the ground down to fused bedrock.
Maki Kiner disintegrated mid-stride in a puff of ash flakes that billowed like confetti. The last thing Goland saw of Tertun was a cooked spine, skull and single shoulder blade, tumbling out of the chasing fire-wash like part of a puppet, still articulated, thrown on by the roasting fury of the attack.
..
Mass laser discharge vaporised the flesh off his bones, and then, a millisecond later, over-pressure scattered his skeleton like twigs into the rain.
18 troopers 'vaporized' in a rather brief period of time.. seconds, perhaps less tan a second. We dont know beyond that how many shots.
Its also an issue of whether it was a turboalser or not, and this plays into the nature of the Titan as debated before. WE know Warhounds will carry arm mounted (twin barreled) turbo lasers, but the larger battle titans (reavers and Warlords) use them as Carapace, and only the heavier weapons (volcano cannon and such) are arm mounts. It could be that its actually a laser-blaster on a REaver (or Warlord) as I've heard they're basically multi-barreld turbolasers, or it may be that its a laser blaster misidentified as a turbo laser. Either way the height (or the weapon name) is wrong.
the fact that one body was at least partially cremated suggests vaporization may be literal, but that's always open to complaint. So assuming vaporization was 'figurative' we might figure 4th degree burns (which could produce at least some cremation and w ould explosively flay flesh from bones) over a 10000 sq cm body (both sides) we could figure (At 400 j per sq cm) some 8 MJ per body. whcih would be some 144 MJ total. If its cremation/vaporization we're talking hundreds or thousands of MJ per body. At least one of them was doen in at least a millisecond, again hinting at 'fraciton of a second' discharge, and the total outputs being at least in the high GW range. This doesn't include the fact it 'levelled' the thoroughfare or tore up and melted the ground - incinerating the troopers was at moast part of the energy, indicating that the weapon was massive overkill.


Page 23
The folk of Orestes, Imperial and Mechanicus alike, had long believed themselves to be far from the hot lines of the contested front. The crusade raging through the Sabbat Worlds was months away to spinward. The folk of Orestes thought they were safe.
Orestes is 'months away' from the main conflict, which in Crusade terms is perhaps hundreds of light yeras. the Sabbat Worlds area was never explicitly called a sector, but much implication is suggested its roughly that. Also the 'forge world' of Orestes has both an 'Imperial' and an AdMehc population, both of hwich are distinct (Especially in how the Imperial population is not AdMech.) Its not the first time Abnett has had a 'forge world' with Imperial leanings (such as producing regiments and such), although such are not true 'forge worlds' but mayhap industrialw orlds like Vostroya (with Admech leadership)
The place has it sown PDF and hives, incidentally.


Page 24
The dark mechanics of the Archenemy had blinded and tricked the vigilant sensors and watch satellites of the Orestean PDF..
Chaos tropos blind the orbital sensors (and satellites) of the PDF forces.


Page 26
The shock had burned out all of his acceptors and rendered him machine-dumb. The Mechanicus had provided him with a service pension, and Zink’s princeps had secured him the job, as caretaker of the garden.
Wow its possible to actually get pensions and job security in the Imperium. From the Mechanicus no less. This is why I like Dan Abnett. There's still that touch of horrible Grimdark should have (the poor guy got his mind basically fried in the line of duty) but there's still a human touch to it that allows the reader to connect to real life in some fashion, which makes it more compelling. Instead of just LOL MOARSKULLZEVERYONEDOOMED.


Page 27-29
He took hold of the Titan to stop it trudging off the edge of the workbench. It was the height of a man’s forearm, and reassuringly heavy. Iron cogs weighted the clockwork heart cased inside the tin armour.
..
Back in the day, it had been a thriving proposition, selling mannequins and automata to the wealthy and the privileged from Summittown and Southern Cliff.
..
...to buy a mechanical simian for his youngest daughter. The simian had worn a jester’s mop and clashed brass cymbals together when it was wound up and set to run.
..
He took his coin from such repairs. Zember could restring a doll in five minutes, paste back together a broken ceramic or papier maché face as brilliantly as any cosmetic medicae, replace a faulty spring or a toothless cog, make the damaged and the broken walk and whirr and spark and delight like new.
A mechanical toymaker.. its just.. charming in a way. I can't quite explain it but I just like it when Abnett does little touches like this.


Page 32
Governor Poul Elic Aleuton was a dignified, charismatic man juvenated to look sixty, a quarter of his meat-age.
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In him, the power of the Golden Throne was invested. He was the voice of Terra on Orestes, the proxy of the Council, and his voice commanded all of Orestes and its system holdings.
Imperial Governor 1/4 his actual age, suggesting the apparent juvenat slowdown and suggesting a possible lifespan of 300-400 years.
Also again we get mention that Orestes, ostensibly a 'forge' world, has an Imperial governor and significant Imperial as well as AdMech presence. Which makes it seem more likely that it is in fact an industrial world under shared Imperial/AdMech custodianship, not unlike Vostroya (as I mentioned before.)


Page 33
Djared Crusius, like most executors fetial, had chosen to receive only subtle or encysted augmetic work. He presented as a tall, handsome male, with regal cheekbones and cropped silver hair, his height emphasised by the crisp drop of his simple black robe. He was an ambassador, a go-between, an arranger, and his appearance was skilfully designed to be reassuring and comfortable to non-Mechanicus parties. Most of the legio’s negotiations, down the years, had been conducted with Imperial agencies.
In other words he's a diplomat for the Mechanicus/Titan Legions. Such has been mentioned in Dark Heresy's 'Lathe worlds' books as well, although under a different name. But the role and characteristics were the same.

Page 34
"We are breaking with our orders to come to your aid, and those orders were issued by the Warmaster himself. He is expecting us to join him at the Sabbat front in sixteen weeks."
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"It is important that Warmaster Macaroth understands why we have diverted. Bad feeling between the Mechanicus and the Warmaster must be avoided."
An interesting commentary on the political situation in the Sabbat Worlds Crusade. Despite their tradtional sovereignty, and the fact that Slaydo had to negotiate their involvement in the Crusade, their ties to the Imperium (and the political situation) means they are not wholly free to act or ignore even a Warmaster without good reason. The Imperium is, naturally, ruled by politics.


Page 34-35
"What is your current strength, executor?"
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"Forty-eight engines"
...
"Forty-nine, Brother Keito" replied Crusius, "if the Warlord Dominatus Victrix can be made battle-ready. "
...
"The Beltran Campaign was a demanding walk. The eldar produce subtle, swift engines. We lost eight units."
Legio Invicta has currently 49 engines, with one still needing repairs, and eight losses before that. Meaning its probably more 'current' rather than total strength.


Page 36
"Pissed off. That’s very earthy. Very Imperial. What’s the rule?"
Sonne sighed. "We of the Mechanicus prefer cant and system code imagery to biological ones.."
"So?"
"Macaroth will be very error shunt abort with us."
Differences in Imperial vs Mechanicus slang. It shows they have a sense of humor, of a sort.


Pgae 37
"Warmaster Macaroth will be pissed off with us. There’s nothing we can do about it."
"Because Orestes is a Mechanicus colony?"
"Because Orestes is a Mechanicus colony, and it is under attack, and the Warmaster can just learn to live with it."
Again politics, and that Orestes is Mechaicus territory, ostensibly.


Page 38
"Sonne, our legio has functioned for almost twelve thousand years."
MEaning its history goes back thousands of years before the Great Crusade and Heresy, which is saying something. Makes you wonder how good their pre-Imperium, pre heresy records might be?


Page 39-40
His fingers played in the warm air in front of him; the subtle haptics laced through his epidermis actuated and sorted the data drifting in the noospheric realm in front of his eyes.
..
The Analyticae was working to capacity again, nine hundred adepts and logis, toiling at their cogitators like communal insects. Day and night, for over a month, since the war began, shift teams had been reviewing any and all data received from the fighting zones, no matter what the quality, and processing it, hunting for any clue, any tactical advantage.
...
Egan had set them, twenty of them, to the job of close scanning all extant pict capture of the Archenemy engines, most of it gun camera footage or auspex targeter feed. It was poor quality stuff, most of it risibly fuzzy, and it frequently cut short in disturbing ways.
Tactical battle analysis basically. The interesting thing isn't just they collect and analyze the data, but the apparent sources of such. Its not Space Marine or Titan data (titans haven't been deployed yet against the enemy) but their basic PDF troops (and perhaps Skitarii and Servitors and such) which means tanks, gunships and possibly even troops are relaying this visual and targeter data.
Also the mention of haptics and the noosphere, which has become fairly common since HH novels like Mechanicum and such.


Page 41
<When was this caught?>
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<Four days ago at Gynex, the gun-box feed of a Vulture.>
Again the data seems to be coming from non Astartes/Titan vehicles, reinforced (At least in part) by this.


Page 44-45
They’d grown up in the sinks of a subhive on Castria, five months’ shift away. The Sabbat Crusade, a campaign that seemed set to last forever, had been sucking resources out of Castria at an infernal rate. The planet had become an impoverished pit of systemic crime, corruption and bleak futures.
...
Since the Sabbat Wars had begun, twenty-four years earlier, nine and a half million young men and women of Castria had shipped out to the front in Guard foundings.
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Stefan had toiled hard instead to earn his wharfinger certificates, slaving unpaid hours in the Castrian docks to get his supervisor’s papers. As soon as he had qualified to grade six, he had applied for emigration passes. Orestes, a thriving forge world closer to the Sabbat systems, had publicly advertised its need for certificated cargo handlers to help deal with its munitions output. For those with the proper accreditation, Orestes was willing to pay set-up and relocation expenses.
Again its possible, under the rigth circumstances, to travel or emigrate from planet ot planet in 40K.. at least to certain extents. The fact there is cross-planet advertising is interesting as well as it says something about the contact/communcation between worlds within the Sabbat Worlds sector/region. The fact job skills cna transfer too is also interesting.
Also we dont know what kind of world castria is and what 'resources' being sucked out means, but it doesn't sound good (or what resources it started with.) also 9.5 million in 24 dozen years is an annual input of slightly under 400,000 annually. Which doesn't seem like alot of troops to be tithed, compared to some other places (Cadia, Armageddon, etc.) but we dont know conditions on Castria both before and after the Crusade came through.


Page 45
Cally Samstag would be obliged to serve, four weeks a year, in the tertiary reserve of the Orestean Planetary Defence Force.
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She quite enjoyed the camaraderie and teamwork of a week with the reserve PDF, running exercises, survival hiking in the Astrobleme, drill training.
The Orestean has a PDF (rather than pure skitarii/Tech guard force) and it also has a terriary reserve (implying a primary and secondary PDF force as well.) Which probably puts it somewhere betwene militia and conscript level. Its also yet another distinction between 'normal' forge worlds and the Abnettian definition. :P
Also we get some of what's involved in the reserve.


Page 46
..Cally Samstag stopped packing her bag for a second. Her hands were shaking. She closed her eyes and clenched her teeth. She’d known Stefan would take it this way. She loved him, but sometimes he could be such a child. He wasn’t the one being called to war. He wasn’t the one being sent off into who knew what. Why weren’t his arms around her? Where were his reassuring whispers that everything would be all right? Stefan was a strong man, physically. She’d seen him heft cargo crates as if they were empty, but she was the strong one when it came to holding them together.
She had less than an hour before she was due at the muster. She knew she’d be spending most of that time keeping him contained.
This again demonstrates why Abnett is such a good writer for 40K. He goes above and beyond mere 'grimdark' to make it horrible in a compelling way, something you can actually relate to rather than just skulls and meaningless numbers. HEre he's trying to convey the emotional aspects of being called up to a war one never expected, and the human aspects involved. Cally having to support a husband who can't understand her duty, and needing her support even as Cally wishes she could get that same support for her husband as it is her ass on the line. For me that's both very compelling and very bleak, and I dont need no skulls or huge bodycounts to drive it home. This works fine.


Page 47
..possibly a quad-room hab with sanction for children.

Pointing to both space and habitability being at a premium on orestes, or at least tightly controlled. This probably means they provide some means of contraception or sterilization or something to prevent unwanted pregnancies. It demonstrates that, like the tau, the Imperium can sometimes practice population control measures. HOW EVIL OF THEM. :D


Page 50
..a consular officer attached to the Munitorum’s Trade Service...
..
... too much of her life poring over paperwork and data-slates, making small talk with shipmasters and merchant envoys, and negotiating tariffs and residuals in windowless rooms..
The Munitorum apparently maintains an arm of its service dedicated solely to dealing with the source of their resources and logistics (or at least, those who haul it) Makes sense to have them on Orestes, given the forge world's logistical importance to the Sabbat Worlds Crusade.


Page 51
Severin saw several high rank officers of the PDF, and at least three generals of the Imperial Guard, all representing Orestean units..
suggesting Orestes raises Guard units, despite being a 'forge world' :P


Page 52
She held out her biometric and let his sensor wand sniff it.
..
.. rotated slowly, self-consciously, on the spot as he ran the wand up and down her figure.
Governor's security measures.


Page 53
.. the money she’d spent on that last juvenat process had been worth it. Not a blemish, not a sag, full lips, artfully plucked eyebrows, eyes that a man might die for.
Juvenat. Seems not just life extension but an exotic form of cosmetic surgery.


Page 53
"We can’t be too careful. Anyone can steal a face these days."
I wonder how they pull that off. In 40K it may be better not to ask.


Page 54
.. seraphic ward-drones floated above them.
..
The drones whipped around at the sound of its voice, and armed their thermobaric weapons.
Some sort of cyber cherubs or thingies we know the Ministorum has a hardon for. Unsurprisingly, they're equipped with flame weapons of a kind (well thermobarics, which is interesting in and of itself) which is consistent with the 'pure and purify' nature of the Ministorum. They are bodyguards for the fucking priest here.


Page 57
"I understood that Legio Tempestus had engaged with the enemy, sir"
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"Twenty-two engines, that’s all Macaroth allowed us to keep here as a standing defence. The enemy has at least seven times that power."
..
"Eight of them. Eight engines dead."
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"Twenty-two engines. That’s nothing like enough to guard a forge world. Macaroth has drained us empty.."
Well I was wrong. There are titans on Orestes, albeit not many. Twenty two at the start (part of a legion - a small part by the fluff) and minus the eight (soon to be nine) they have fourteen. Twenty two titans is also considerd insufficient to defend a Forge World, which tells you something about Titan Legion numbers for the 'thousands' of Forge worlds that exist. The defenses alone proably encompass many tens or hundreds of thousands of titans to guard forge worlds, nevermind those deployed in various engagements across the galaxy. And we know the enemy has over 140 enemy titans.


Page 57
"Invicta makes planetfall in two days, translation permitting."
Which means no more than two days to reach the planet form the warp translation point, but may include the translation point as we know. We dont know the distance for the Mecahnicus Titan transports but if they're 1 AU out we're talking 2 gees of constant accel and .006% of lightspeed. Billions of km would be closer to several tens of gees and 5-6% of lightspeed.


Page 58
"You are the Lord Governor. You rule this system and its subsidiary holdings."
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"Orestes is a forge, Etta. The Mechanicus rules. My authority, the Imperial presence itself, is accepted under sufferance."
The Imperial presence on Orestes is not official ownership, more a political convenience it would seem. the AdMech still own the planet, and only endure the Imperial presence and possess the true power. It makes me wonder if perhaps the Imperial presence is just a formality for the purposes of the Crusade. Or, do many (all?) Forge worlds have similar delegations? Or could the scope of the delegations perhaps vary form forege world to forge world?
In either case it seems Orestes is not quite like Vostroya as I previously asserted. :P


Page 60
They were running, lights out, auspex only.
Leman Russ tanks (vanquishers) can run on auspex only.


Page 60
Varco kept one eye on the threat detector and the other on the soft green cursor that was blinking in the middle of the terrain reader’s fuzzy screen. A locator fix. Nine days of fighting had taught the men of Orestean Pride Armour Six not to trust vox or squirt signal.
Threat detector and a locator beacon to home in on. nine days of (presumably constnat) fighting and the enemy again monitoring signals.


Page 60
. He hadn’t washed in a week, and he was still wearing the kit he’d set out in eleven days earlier.
Again an indication of deployment. No indication of whether or not htey've been constantly running that long, or if they've had resupply by this quote.


Page 61
If they shut off the Vanquisher’s plant, a restart might take a full minute or more, not counting the wait time needed to rebuild the electronic mapping and propitiate the machine spirits..
Time to restart a VAnquisher's powerplant, electronic mapping in the tank.


Page 61
The wet air clung to the petrochemical stink of their exhausts.
The VAnquishers are running on petrochem.


Page 62
He was unsteady on his feet. Been sitting in that rig chair too long, Varco thought. How many hours, how many days, since I last walked?
Implying theyve been at least a few days of constant operation without stopping the engines or the crew getting out of the tank. Even assuming a mild 10 kph running speed at that we're talking over 700 km operational range, and probably several times that easily. Its mentioned earlier that fuel tolerance was an issue, but not apparently a critical one yet.


Page 62
There were vehicles parked nearby, light transports, a Chimera, and a pair of red Mechanicus rollers, high-sided track units with thick armour.
Other form sof Imperial Ground vehicle.


Page 63
Sentries in the white plate of the Pride came towards him, bayonets rising.
Probably the source of the aformentioned vehicles that aren't explicitly AdMech (the light transports and Chimera.) The Orestes PDF wear plate of some kind too, but whether its flak or carapace isn't specified.


Page 63
"Let’s see your biometrics," said one of the sentries.
Biometrics even out in the field.


Page 64
She bowed her head to Varco, and knotted her knuckles together to make the meshed cog sign of the Cult Omnissiah.
The AdMech have their own hand signs.


Page 66
"Their engines are all over us. Tanks against engines? No contest."
..
"Tempestus has suffered fifty-three per cent casualties."
fifty three percent losses would be closer to eleven or twelve engines lost. Also tanks are mentione dto be no good againts Titans, although one presumes we're not talking 'in large numbers'



Page 67
"A Warlord of Legio Tempestus, Annihilus Ventor, is pursuing it along this vector, hoping to surprise it here and make a clean engine kill."
..
"The enemy engine is moving with speed," replied Stravin. "There seems to be a real danger that it will outrun the Annihilus Ventor. Pride Armour Six is tasked to swing in here, across the river, and lay down pattern fire to drive it back. When the engine turns, it will meet our Warlord head on."
Implying the Vanquishers are perhaps considerably faster than whatever the Titan is. It can't be too big if they expect the Vanquishers to distract it - probably smaller than a Warlord, but certainly not bigger. Reaver or Warloed then. Considering Reavers have a 27 kph on road/19 kph off road speed according to Forge World (HAH) thats probably not surprising.


Page 67-68
".. the Mechanicus would appreciate any pict-feed data you might collect."
..
"Pict-feed data might help us identify them and identify any weaknesses."
Vanquishers have pict feeds


Page 68
Varco produced a slate from his belt pouches and quickly scanned in the table’s data.
..
Varco plugged his slate into the side of the auspex and inloaded the data.
Tanker carries a data slate for receiving data, and inloading it into his tank's auspex (and other) systems.


Page 68-69
"Load HE shells"
..
"I trust HE is loaded."
Vanquishers have HE loaded.,


Page 70
"Pict feed on"
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"Gun cameras active."
Gun cams and pict feeds agian


Page 70
Varco whispered as he watched the threat display. The heat-read of the fires around them was confusing the motion sensors.
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The tanks pulled out around Queen Bitch, muzzles raised, targeters hunting.
Targeters and motion sensors on the Vanquishers.


Page 70
On the display in front of him, pattern recognition systems had identified the wreck as Annihilus Ventor.
Pattern recognition systems on the Vanquishers. Also another Titan bites the dust


Page 71
The threat detector began to chime.
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"We have just been spectrum-painted by an aiming beam!"
...
"The auspex refuses to fix," said Koder. "Too much background heat."
Auspex runs on (at least) thermal, and their threat detector can pick up active targeting signals.


Page 72
His gun crew struggled to reload. They got off a second shot.
Nothing.
..
Queen Bitch hurtled forwards, and the gun team got off a third shot. Varco saw the shell burst like a firework against the tarnished chest plate of the advancing monster.
Vanquisher fire not doing much against an enemy Titan.

Page 72
His gunner thumbed the fire switch and a round boomed out of Queen Bitch’s raised muzzle. It struck the advancing engine in the throat, and made it rock back a step.
Something this time, not sure if the rock back is from recoil or from pain, but it could be either.


Page 77
There would be storms later on. A vessel as large as the lander did not penetrate a world’s atmosphere without consequences, no matter how slow and delicate its descent. Standing on the open-mesh gantry fixed to the underbelly of the leviathan, Tarses could smell ozone and hear the pop and squeal of ruptured atmospherics
Side effects of Titan landers in the atmosphere.


Page 77-78
"You had him suspended on full-spectrum restoration, monitored and supplemented."
..
"The very best care, with constant monitoring on a cellular level"
..
"We have run emergency resus eight times, and additionally boosted vitals with a simulated MIU shunt. "
Titan crew health care.


Page 89
Gotch had opted for battledress, not the ritual armour he’d greeted her in two nights before. His heavy frame was cased in a matt-brown body glove, covered with khaki webbing, and his boots and gloves were thick-laced leather. He wore a Cadian-style moulded helmet, buckled under his chin, and the hellgun in his paws was matt black.
Orestian Life guard battledress.


Page 92
"You were born in Antium Subhive forty-eight years ago, but you don’t, I may say, look anything beyond twenty-five. Your father was a fleetmaster with an inner spinward charter."
Trader charters, and indication of juvenat work real age 48, physical appearance of 25.


Page 99
She’d been gone these few days, and not even a word to say where she was or when he might see her again, or if she was even alive.
...
Stefan began to pray to the God-Emperor, for deliverance, for strength, for Cally, wherever she was.
In the hall outside, revellers began to shout and sing, banging on doors, and breaking the intensity of his prayer.
He leapt up, furious, and hammered his fists on the inside of the locked door.
"Shut up! Shut up, you bastards! Leave me alone!"
No one heard him. They were making too much noise.
This passage is included becuase it demonstrates, to me, what makes for a good 'war' story. Certainly all the technical widgetry gets my interest, and the number crunching, but other than awe or some sort of sense of discovery or puzzle solving, it doesn't really 'grab' you emotionally the way that a man separated from his reservist wife by war on his doorstep can. This is what really drives home the consequences of war, and there's that uncertainty that they will never see each other again. They're not protagonists of a long series - there is no guarantee one or the other will survive, and thats what makes it striking, even if its just a story. Especially given Abnett's way of portraying things makes it seem like it could be a page out of real life, and that makes me wonder how many real life soldiers face this and how they must feel.


Page 102
the Invicta skitarii, a throwback to more savage times, were fearsome beasts, striped and extravagantly marked, their armour built for threat, their genes selected for bulk. Muscular arms gleamed in the odd light. Heavy boots thumped in marching unison. Weapon limbs snapped up to salute as one. Feather plumes, ivory ornaments, leopardskin capes, modified fangs. The skitarii roared at the sky like predators, as fearsome and bestial as Space Wolves.
Feist shuddered. The skitarii thumped their fists against their breastplates and howled again. Barbarians, Feist thought, so unlike our own. How can we be bred of the same stuff?
The Invicta Skitarii legions described. Whats interesting is that it highlights just how.. variable they can be. Not unlike the Guard. Each forge world (and Legion) probably has its own idea of Skitarii, and they can be as diverse and distinctive as Imperial Guardsmen. Despite being of the same organization, the AdMech can have its own subsets and divisions and internal conflicts. Indeed that is one of the driving forces behind this story - not only the external differences and tensions that exist between Imperiald and Mechanicus, but also within the Mechanicus itself.


Page 103
Their amniotic caskets slid forwards on suspensor bearings...
..
Both men were naked, beautiful flesh and bionics intermixed, riding nobly inside their data-liquid worlds like gods, their forearms, hands, shins and feet enveloped by the dense bundles of plug sheathing that connected them to the inner surfaces of the caskets. The amniotic fluids were soft pink with blood. Trunking cables and implants snaked out of both men’s eyes and scalps, writhing and wobbling in the viscous fluid. Gearhart’s body was sixty-eight per cent bionic; Bohrman’s was forty-two.
Augmentation level of both casked Princeps. To me the wiring and shit isn't the interesting point, its the amnitoic fluid, which seems to serve as a life support medium as we as a medium for conveying information.


Page 111-112
Lasbolts into flesh made freakishly different sounds to lasbolts hitting asphalt or rockcrete. They made wet sounds, splattering sounds, frying meat sounds.
Difference between lasrounds in inorganic vs organic materials. I imagine/guess the effects described are both thermal (frying meat) and mechanical explosive (wet/splattering) effects.


Page 114-115
She was still holding her weapon, a MK2-sk lasrifle, short form, bullpup pattern, type 3 cell rear of the firing grip, integral scope, lugs for optional bayonet and grenade launcher fitments.
..
..she reached behind the grip and switched the weapon to armed. A little green tell-tale lit up on the side plate.
Cally Samstag's riffle, as a member of the tertiary PDF. Pretty fancy really, if it can mount grenade launchers, has an integral scope, and is a bullpup. Usually only the Elysians get bullpups :P


Page 115
About half a kilometre back down the road...
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..things were burning: small bonfires, scattered across the road surface, bright flames and billowing black smoke. She raised her weapon and trained it so that she could look through the integral scope. Her hands were still shaking badly. It took a moment to focus.
Image swim, fuzzy, then sharp. Crackling flames. Cally nudged the magnification. Image swim, then sharp. The bonfires were bodies, immolating. Blackened, wretchedly twisted, horribly reduced, dozens of human corpses littered the roadway and burned.
Cally's gun scope. It can make things out (including as we see in the next quote, the killers) in fairly good resoultion, which would perhaps imply something of gun range. The scope seems to be powered, variable magnification, although whether this means its electronic or not we don't know (even if nto its pretty impressive for a lasgun to have an integral scope, although the artwork seems to strongly imply this anyhow.)
Also, the weapon servitors (see below) pretty much fried the PDF. The fact they're on fire suggests 125 j per sq cm flash burns or the deep tissue analogue, which could imply maybe a Megajoule or so per body. Although beyond that we dont know how many shots to do it, how long it took, or how many servitors to kill.


Page 115-116
The killers appeared. They had been cloaked by the foul smoke of the incinerating corpses.
...
.. called weaponised servitors.
...
The things Cally’s scope held in focus didn’t look much like the hololith examples the briefing officer had showed them. His picts had been Tacticae impressions and work-ups of walk-frame platforms surmounted by weapon systems, ridiculously top-heavy ..
..
They were heavy, sleek, each one striding along on a set of four insectile limbs. The metal limbs supported heavy, burnished abdomens, plated in loricated armour. The torsos were raised vertically, supporting twinned pairs of heavy gun-pods in place of arms: a vile, ischiopagal body geometry. They had faces, heads with faces, raised high and proud and eager. The faces were leering masks, gold and silver, their frozen smiles so disturbing..
Combat servitors. The gun pods are lasers, which was what fragged the rest of the tertiary PDF troops. Also, in typical chaos fashion, covered in human remains like bones and skulls and shit, because they're chaos you know.


Page 117-118
"Shardin! I saw him go down! His head just popped, Throne save us! It just popped!"
...
"Anyone seen Mister Sarosh?"
...
"Yeah. I saw him. I saw him cut in two"
Effects of gunpod lasweapons. Again hard to calc, without knowing the exact effects and number of shots. But given the overall effects they seem fairly powerful.


Page 123
"Do you plug into that Warlord? Do you fight? Yes? It’s in you, then. The instinct, the lust. Omnissiah help us all that we must make men like you."
"The galaxy makes it so."
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"Pity us all that this is the galaxy we are made to live in, then."
..
Such was the gulf between the active hard-plugged and the smoothly interfaced noospheric.
again there is a divide between the Mechanicus factions, this time the Titan Legions and warriors that defend them, and the 'civilian' AdMech who create and maintain the machineries of the Imperium.

Page 123
All Proximus-pattern Battle Titans required amniotic connection.
Apparently Titans come in 'patterns' even with specific classes (EG Warlord, Warhound, etc.) Which suggests forge worlds produce their own particular 'types' or variations. Not surprising, considering Titans generally are not mass-produced like IG vehicles. This may even explain (to a certain extent) inconsistencies like differences in height. A smaller Warlord may have advantages over a larger one - trading mobility (size and mass) for offensive and defenisve capability.

Page 125-126
>Dominatus Victrix, how is she? What are her qualities as a war engine?>
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<The auspex has been overhauled and refitted several times. The aberration persists. I believe it is part of her spirit’s character.>
...
<It’s my belief that every engine has a unique character, complete with its own foibles and quirks. No two are alike, even if they are of the same pattern. They are, by the grace of the Omnissiah, living things, after all.>
They are in, a sense, living things. Either because they've got imprinted personalities, or because like some 'cogitators' they incorporate organic elements into the mechanical makeup. So the idea that they can be unique and have unique 'quirks' and personalities. The same is quite true of starships as per the Rogue Trader RPG as well. it again reaffirms the 'differences' even between ships of similar clases.
The various qualities mentioned is that she develops power well, is responsive with good gyros, has better stability with its carapace guns at higher elevations than other titans. On the other hand if she runs 'hot' her sensors 'ghost' (clouds or develops false artefacts).


Page 126
<Victrix is a Proximus-pattern Warlord, is she not?>
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<Legio Invicta is a Proximus legion, sir. All our engines are Proximus-pattern. Proximus is our homeworld, our forge.>
Again each forge world makes its own 'pattern' of Titan engine, with its own differences and idiosyncracies. This could again, as noted, lead to explanation of certain inconsistencies (like size, etc.)

Page 127-128
His blood was taken out, washed, and put back, his plugs were cleansed and scoured, and his peripherals were wiped and rewritten.
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"They’re [three plugs] worn and loose," a magos told him, "and the tissue around them is necrotised. We’ll regraft them tomorrow."
..
He felt numb, and slightly disorientated, the usual consequences of having his peripherals rewritten. Tarses understood the importance of washing old, clotted data out of his subcutaneous circuits. A bridge officer had to be clear-headed and clear-sighted, but a peripheral rewrite always left him heartsick and uncomfortable..

Preparations for getting a Titan ready, at least for a new Princeps. I suppose its the cybernetic equivalent of having a hard drive reformat and the systems reinstalled.


Page 132-133
"I am disappointed to discover that you are of the new way."
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"The new way. Is this view a personal one, or do all the servants of Legio Invicta believe that the Omnissiah and the God-Emperor are one and the same?"
...
The ideological split was ages old, and lurked beneath the surface of all Cult Mechanicus beliefs. The matter was sometimes referred to as the Schism by those adepts especially exercised by its implications. In the inner circles of some primary forges, the issue was argued and explored by councils of magi, but in ordinary, everyday life, it was largely ignored, and held as a matter of personal conviction. It was generally decided that the Deus Mechanicus, the Machine-God, and the God-Emperor of Mankind were both aspects of the same divinity, from which all machine spirits originated.
...
"The magi of the Orestean forge are taught to regard them as separate entities."
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"I had heard that some of the younger forges favoured that philosophy, but the union of Mechanicus and Imperium depends upon an implicit faith in the God-Emperor."
More on internal divisions within the Admech. This time its differences over the views of the God Emperor and the Omnissiah. This is much as in Mechanicum, when there is division over whether the Emperor/God-Emperor and the Omnissiah are the same thing. Evidently that difference has carried over into 'modern' times, and it creates further tensions within the Mechanicus, above and beyond what already exist. Indeed, its potentially quite serious, as this division was one thing that caused strife on Mars during the Heresy.


Page 140
....Leopald, Hekton’s gunner, discovered three cans of Munitorum-issue pressed meat.
MMMMM munitorum issue pressed meat. At least its not corpse starch.


Page 141
They were Vulcan-variant Macharius heavies, wearing the silver and green of the Third Argentum Mobile. Instead of long main weapons, their rear-set turrets mounted thick, blunt Vulcan mega-bolters,
More PDF tanks

Page 144
Its weapon-limb spat out a stream of overpowered lasfire. Several shots struck the wet ooze in the bed of the ditch and made ferocious, quenching geysers of vapourised mud. Two passed clean through Kazan. The skitarii weapon was a form of hellgun, designed to cut armour. Kazan didn’t lurch or fly backwards off his feet. The superheated shots imparted no recoil. They simply made huge, cauterised holes in him, one through his chest, the other through his head. Kazan rocked and fell flat on his face. There was an unholy stench of cooked bone and burned blood.
Hellgun-analgoue weapons limb in action. Lots of thermal effect, punches sizable holes (of uknown diamater) through human body overpenetrating like fuck, and vaporize mud. But don't really explode much. Suggests its probably highly penetrative but emits very little enrgy laterally (a pulse-train laser might do that, for example, although cauterization is an issue) Hole isn't big enough to collapse head/skull or blow off chunks of it, evidently. Figure maybe 2-3 cm diameter hole, 20-30 cm deep. If we figure 50-100 j per sq cm flash burns and 126-283 sq cm roughly, which is between 6 and 28 kj at least for the 'shots'. that would correspond to the ~5-10 kj 'battle laser' shot Luke Campbell estimated for his own laser designs, so it seems a reasonable approximation. Of course thats only part of the energy,, since as noted they overpenetrated like hell, but it should be accurate for the effects on the person to within an order of magntiude, anyhow. Effects seem heavily thermal, but may also be partly explosive (steam explosion?)

Also the shots imparted no 'recoil', which could suggest very little superheated/vaporized matter ejected form the target, or it may refer to the 'overpenetration' creating two holes that any vapour/ejecta could escape from which might create a 'recoilless' effect. We do know of lots of cases where lasfire does create a knockdown (but not drilling through like that.)


Page 144
A Macharius heavy, somewhere off to Varco’s right, out of sight behind the buildings, had read the superheated signature of the hellgun and made its kill.
The Macharius must have thermal sensors to pick up the hellgun discharge and target the vicinity then.

Page 146
They were low-level, emergency lights, dull green. The spluttering was coming from a small portable generator in the corner.
..
The desk supported three pieces of modular equipment: voxcaster, tactical plotter and auspex.
Equipment inside a PDF station. The equipment seems to be portable after a fashion, but not exactly man portable. Also a portable generator.


PAge 147-148
"It’s a minor watch facility, probably staffed by secondary or even tertiary PDF. "
...
" Why do you reckon secondary or tertiary?"
...
"Front-line troops would have crippled this place so it couldn’t be used by the enemy. "
...
"‘as if they were a little freaked out they might get blamed for damaging Munitorum property. That to me says low-grade hab-worker on temp duties, drilled and obedient, but reluctant to do the job properly for fear of charges. Besides, when do frontliners make their beds before leaving?"
Difference between frontline and secondary/tertiary PDF (or at least, frontline troops.) Also suggests the equipment mentioned above was munitorum property.


Page 148
The other half was filled with a PDF Centaur towing a field piece, a heavy quad launcher on an iron-wheeled cart.
Yet another PDF vehcile.


Page 157-158
"The engines we are attempting to analyse may date back to the Horusian strata of the archive, and all such material is sequestered."
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"Much of it is dangerous and imprecise. Most of it is touched by the Heresy. "
...
"Those are forbidden coils..."
...
"Access privilege must be obtained from Mars."
...
"I will request it personally."
Horus Heresy materials exist in the Orestian archives, but its restricted without permission from Mars. They can send away for such permission. Considering the SWC is on the edge of Segmentum Pacificus we're talking a distance of tens of thousands of light years.


Page 160
Tertiary PDF, even activated ones, weren’t ever trusted with much in the way of tactical aids, data or autonomy.
Reserves have it even worse than regular PDF or Guard, it seems. God knows why they expected them to be effective against Skitarii or Titans.


Page 163
His left hand became a Vulcan mega-bolter. His right hand became a plasma blastgun. His sleeves, his leather jacket, became dense ceramite armour, twenty centi-measures thick, the rain tapping off it.
Offensive and defenisve capabilities of Warhound titan. not sure what 'centi-measures' thick are. It might be cm, but that would be interesting given that Forge world purportedly gave Warhounds only 95mm of armour :P


Page 164
There were no subtle haptic options on a battle engine, no noospheric links. Such nuances perished in the grind of combat, or were too easily compromised. In a battle engine, everything was hard-plugged and hard-switched.
Titans require direct (plug) links, you can't use haptics or noospherics. Which seems to suggest its the (psychic) wireless version of MIUs.

Page 164-165
He’d been away from the plugs and the MIU for too long, and his head ached from the sting of reconnection. The princeps of the mighty Warlords remained in their amniotics at all times, soothed and pampered by permanent remote congress with their MIUs. No such luxury for hard-plugged Warhound commanders. Away from active duties, in transit, it was their lot to have their links disconnected, and they struggled with withdrawal shakes, limb cramps and night terrors, all the while longing for the joy of re-plugging.
..
The ancient mind impulse units of the veteran engines were surly and cantankerous, resentful at being woken, forwards in their response to instruction. It always took a while to regain trust and re-establish cooperation. It was like breaking in the same, rebellious steed every time you saddled it, or bringing to heel a ferocious dog.
The differences between Scout and Battle Titan princeps, as well as comments about the Machine spirits of certain (ancient) titans. Scout titnas don't seem to use tanked princeps the way the battle titans may, and this creates certain (obvious) problems between uses. sounds almost like an adidction really. Also the casked Princeps still remain in (remote) contact with their titans, which maybe suggests Haptic/noospherics perhaps.
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