Mithril

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2003-01-01 06:15am

Darth Wong wrote:Cold steel rules them all.

....But cast bronze will do in a pinch.

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2003-01-01 06:36am

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:To one Alex Moon, labeling spoilers next time for easy refrence? Thanks.

My apologies. I didn't even think abaout it. I'll be more careful in the future.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2003-01-01 08:40am

Tsyroc wrote:On watching The Fellowship of the Ring extended edition the first time I was thinking that there seem to be some parallels between Mithril and titanium. The color and that it's hard and light, and the Dwarves were mining veins of it from the Earth. Besides, if anyone ever made a mail shirt out of titanium like the one Frodo has it would be worth a bundle just because of how fine the links were.

Okay, this was all before the thread on sci-fi metals explained a bit more about titanium and other metals.

While I still think Mithril draws some ideas from titanium I think it fits better beside Uru and Adamantine, indestructable "magic" metals from human myths.

I think Mithril is a magic metal... at least it has magic properties in most fantasy settings.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2003-01-01 10:30am

Alex Moon wrote: It doesn't have to be long, but at least incorporating it some way could be possible. Especially since they're going to most likely end the movies with the scene from the Grey Havens. Have the hobbits pass through Hobbiton on their way there, and see what's going on. They march to Bag End, encounter Saruman and tell him to get the hell out. He tries to kill Frodo and is in turn killed by Wormtonge, and then the Hobbits leave.

From what Peter Jackson said on one of the DVD commentaries it doesn't sound like there will be a scouring of the Shire. That was partially why he made a point of showing the positibility in the vision Frodo got from Galadriel's mirror.

It's too bad. I always liked that part of the book, but by cutting that out PJ doesn't have to spend time setting up a lot of the stuff with Merry and Pippin (did they happen to drink anything while hanging out with Treebeard?

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DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-01-01 02:48pm

I hope he had at least filmed the scenes, so we can get it on the Return of the King extended DVD version in 2005 or whenever.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-01 02:58pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:I hope he had at least filmed the scenes, so we can get it on the Return of the King extended DVD version in 2005 or whenever.

They would never spend so much to film such and then cut it out completel, such scenes would cost several million. It will be hit or miss, and it's almost certainly miss. At the most we will see Bilbo and Frodo passing leaving Middle Earth.

greenmm · Post by **greenmm** » 2003-01-01 07:18pm

fgalkin wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:So it was Peter Jackson being an idiot then, and not Tolkien?
If you saw TTT. you would have no doubts about it.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Actually, I like TTT at least as well as FOTR, and my wife (who has never read Tolkien) really liked it too.

greenmm · Post by **greenmm** » 2003-01-01 07:26pm

SPOILER ALERT

There was only one part I didn't like: Faramir taking Frodo and Sam to Osgiliath. I can accept most of the other changes in the films, either as necessities to allow them to actually show it in theaters (despite the fan following, it's hard to see a 3-hour film in the theater any more), or as applications of a more realistic standard (Tolkien's portrayal of Aragorn and Arwen as being dedicated lovers is fine, but let's face it, there's a lot of people with ignorant prejudices out there who balk at the idea of 2 humans with different skin color or eye shapes getting married; imagine what they'd do if they found out some human guy [questionable to them anyway, given the Numenorean half-elven heritage they share with Elrond and their apparant semi-magical abilities] wanted to marry an immortal elven chick [who's already about 3000 years old before she even meets Aragorn, a "girl" who was born over a thousand years before either of the Numenorean kingdoms fell from grace]).

But to make such a drastic change in Frodo and Sam's travel path (especially considering that the trip in the book would have taken a couple of weeks), combined with making Faramir into a cheap copy of his brother (and thus removing the greater nobility he showed in the novels), really made me mad.

OTOH... there are worse things that could have happened. Overall, I thought it was great.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-01-01 09:32pm

Alex Moon wrote:
Howedar wrote:I think it is a question of Jackson's sometimes loose interpretations of Tolkein's work, rather than the movie as a whole being good.
I was just wondering because it seems like I am the only one who didn't like the movie at all. *sniff* I would be nice to have some company...

I missed most of the second half of the movie, mostly cuz I was screaming *spoiler* bout the elves at helm's deep.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-01-01 11:27pm

Tsyroc wrote:
Alex Moon wrote: (did they happen to drink anything while hanging out with Treebeard? )

Nay, not one iota of ent-draught was consumed by either hobbit; they didn't even have a sip of Mountain Dew!

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-01-02 03:09am

I think that TTT and FoTR are on equal footing, but I think the Extended Edition of Fellowship is probably one of the best movies I've ever seen. I would've had no problem sitting in the theatre for another half-hour. It was just spectacular.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-02 03:12am

Just imagine Two Towers Extended Edition!

Which reminds me, why exactly is LOTR-EE not PG? I didn't see anything in the EE thar warranted the higher rating- which is what I was hoping for. Mayhap I didn't notice?

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 2003-01-02 03:18pm

I think it was because of all the cannibalism mentions and the battle scenes.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-02 03:36pm

Vympel wrote:Just imagine Two Towers Extended Edition!

Which reminds me, why exactly is LOTR-EE not PG? I didn't see anything in the EE thar warranted the higher rating- which is what I was hoping for. Mayhap I didn't notice?

The moive was PG-13 and the EE R, proubabbly because of the bursts of blood splurting from the decapitated Orcs and other assorted violence, which actually had blood. Blood seems to be the main basis of ratings for violence.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-01-02 04:57pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Vympel wrote:Just imagine Two Towers Extended Edition!

Which reminds me, why exactly is LOTR-EE not PG? I didn't see anything in the EE thar warranted the higher rating- which is what I was hoping for. Mayhap I didn't notice?
The moive was PG-13 and the EE R, proubabbly because of the bursts of blood splurting from the decapitated Orcs and other assorted violence, which actually had blood. Blood seems to be the main basis of ratings for violence.

The Extended Edition is PG-13, or so says my box. I thought it was going to be R, as well ...

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-02 04:59pm

Durandal wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Vympel wrote:Just imagine Two Towers Extended Edition!

Which reminds me, why exactly is LOTR-EE not PG? I didn't see anything in the EE thar warranted the higher rating- which is what I was hoping for. Mayhap I didn't notice?
The moive was PG-13 and the EE R, proubabbly because of the bursts of blood splurting from the decapitated Orcs and other assorted violence, which actually had blood. Blood seems to be the main basis of ratings for violence.
The Extended Edition is PG-13, or so says my box. I thought it was going to be R, as well ...

Mine also says PG-13, but then the interviews and such that come with it have mentions of it in fact being R several times.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-01-02 05:04pm

Hm ... that'd odd.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-02 09:00pm

It's possible they flip flopped on the ratings they gave. It happens so times.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-01-02 10:04pm

Personally, I didn't see a whole lot more blood and gore in the Extended Edition. No reason it should be rated R.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-02 10:09pm

In Australia the rating system is different

PG
M15+
MA15+
R18+

LOTR EE got M15+

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