Aliens vs Predator 2: Requiem trailer

[Dienonychus]

It'll suck like AVP story-wise but still be fun to see at least once.

[SylasGaunt]

MTV Article

More talk on the movie. Includes some choice bits:

"Basically you're following this one Predator — the star of this movie," Greg said of the hunter in pursuit. Added Colin, "We call him the Wolf internally because basically he's Harvey Keitel from 'Pulp Fiction.' He's the cleaner. He shows up and he's not there for the trophies. ... If anybody gets in his way, he'll just cut 'em in half."

Among other things mentioned is the Predalien running amuck on a pred ship, a chestburster scene involving the kid who got facehugged, predator medikit scene making a return, the original alien screeches and what not, and they apparently hate Anderson's film.[/url]

[SylasGaunt]

Ghetto edit:

New trailer as well- http://media.filmweb.no/trailere/fox/FO ... wsnjx6.mov

[Vympel]

That interview gives me hope. I like the new trailer too.

Leave Your Foam Finger At Home: "We got rid of all the armor on the Predators because those guys [in 'AVP'] literally looked like football players," explained Greg. "We were like, 'The Predator in the first two movies didn't need armor!' "

Fuck yes.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Even if the movie ends up being so-so, that article at least shows the production is being handled in the right frame of mind.

"I'd like to do another one but I'd like to do it in space. The next one either has to be more of the bridge after this and before 'Alien,' or you could do something after 'Aliens,' " Greg said, getting back to work. "We have a pretty finite ending to this, but we have a cliffhanger per se; it's a setup."

YES

[Sidewinder]

Bad news: the link to the trailer now says, "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

Like people, some Predators are just jerks?

ALL of the Predators are jerks for treating other sentient beings as prey. In my opinion, killing for reasons other than survival, e.g., self-defense or for food, is criminal.

[PREDATOR490]

So its one Predator in this film and hes the guy they call in when the shit hits the fan. I could buy that reasonably well but the stripping of the armor seems less sensible in that trend.
Sure removing armor for taking out humans or going on hunts would have been sensible but this time its an elite Predator going after a supposedly rampant infestation and lethal target.

Dont think I even want to consider the ideas for next movies though. A bridge would only work if they linked AVP with the actual Predator movies in even the slightest sense and requires them to somehow setup the scene for the development into the Alien saga. That has so many ways of going badly and going into a repeat of previous films.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

So its one Predator in this film and hes the guy they call in when the shit hits the fan. I could buy that reasonably well but the stripping of the armor seems less sensible in that trend.
Sure removing armor for taking out humans or going on hunts would have been sensible but this time its an elite Predator going after a supposedly rampant infestation and lethal target.

The article makes it pretty clear that the production for this film ditched the armour simply because they thought it didn't look any good, not for any in-universe issue.

[Plekhanov]

That's really my only problem with this - why couldn't they have the exact same thing happen in the future, say, between Alien 3 and Resurrection?

Unlikely since it is indicated that Ripley killed off the last "naturals" in Alien 3, given the ~200 year difference between 3 and 4 who's to argue with the General's statement?

Why would contradicting the general's statement be any more problematic than having a major Xeno infestation on earth in the 21st century? Something which completely fucks with the continuity of all the previous films.

It'd make more sense to have AVP2 set shortly before 'Alien'. How did Weyland-Yutani find out about the contents of the crashed alien ship?

Sorry are you claiming Weyland-Yutani knew what was in the Space Jockey's ship before the Nostromo landed?

[Anguirus]

Sorry are you claiming Weyland-Yutani knew what was in the Space Jockey's ship before the Nostromo landed?

That seems to be the case when I watch Alien.

[Lost Soal]

It'd make more sense to have AVP2 set shortly before 'Alien'. How did Weyland-Yutani find out about the contents of the crashed alien ship?

Sorry are you claiming Weyland-Yutani knew what was in the Space Jockey's ship before the Nostromo landed?

They did. In one of the follow-on novels from Alien Resurrection its revealed that the Space Jockey's told Wayland-Yutani about the aliens because they didn't want to risk their own people.

So its one Predator in this film and hes the guy they call in when the shit hits the fan. I could buy that reasonably well but the stripping of the armor seems less sensible in that trend.
Sure removing armor for taking out humans or going on hunts would have been sensible but this time its an elite Predator going after a supposedly rampant infestation and lethal target.

Umm, did that armour actually do anything for them. The Xenos speared straight through it like it was paper.

[RazorOutlaw]

That's really my only problem with this - why couldn't they have the exact same thing happen in the future, say, between Alien 3 and Resurrection?

Unlikely since it is indicated that Ripley killed off the last "naturals" in Alien 3, given the ~200 year difference between 3 and 4 who's to argue with the General's statement?

Why would contradicting the general's statement be any more problematic than having a major Xeno infestation on earth in the 21st century? Something which completely fucks with the continuity of all the previous films.

Not that I'm rushing to defend the idea of a 21st century invasion, but the trailer does show a fighter dropping a bomb. I'm not sure of the power of a tactical nuclear weapon, but they might be covering up the infestation by the end of the movie that way. Or a Predator's wrist bomb goes off.

Ugh.

[Plekhanov]

Sorry are you claiming Weyland-Yutani knew what was in the Space Jockey's ship before the Nostromo landed?

That seems to be the case when I watch Alien.

Why? Weyland-Yutani wouldn't need prior knowledge of Xenos to be extremely interested in any sign of intelligent alien life.

They did. In one of the follow-on novels from Alien Resurrection its revealed that the Space Jockey's told Wayland-Yutani about the aliens because they didn't want to risk their own people.

Given the mess of absurd & contradictory crap churned out to milk the Aliens franchise why should we take that particular novel seriously?

[PREDATOR490]

So its one Predator in this film and hes the guy they call in when the shit hits the fan. I could buy that reasonably well but the stripping of the armor seems less sensible in that trend.
Sure removing armor for taking out humans or going on hunts would have been sensible but this time its an elite Predator going after a supposedly rampant infestation and lethal target.

Umm, did that armour actually do anything for them. The Xenos speared straight through it like it was paper.

Predator 2 had the cop shooting the Predator while he was standing still causing bullets to do no noticable damage except piss him off. Later we see him taking injury from bullets so one comes to the conclusion that the armor he had on was saving him from taking hits that may have hurt him.
That alone means its doing something for him.

Its like saying that Corpral Hick's armor didnt do anything for him against Alien acid splash or the Predator in AVP who got spashed only to take the piece of armor off. If those armor pieces hadnt been there they both would have been getting burnt by the acid splash on themselves meaning they are going to be extremely fucked.

Removing the armor may look good out of universe but in universe its not too bright.

[Death from the Sea]

Am I seeing the pred-alien in the teaser? it appears that one of the alien xenos has the dreadlocks and pred jaws

[Spanky The Dolphin]

That would be it.

[seanrobertson]

Its like saying that Corpral Hick's armor didnt do anything for him against Alien acid splash or the Predator in AVP who got spashed only to take the piece of armor off. If those armor pieces hadnt been there they both would have been getting burnt by the acid splash on themselves meaning they are going to be extremely fucked.

Removing the armor may look good out of universe but in universe its not too bright.

Agreed.

I suspect this "Wolf" in the second film is an elite hunter, deprived of his armor either by circumstance, pride (he's killed so much shit he doesn't think he needs it), Predator code or ...

... maybe no good reason at all I may well give the writers too much credit, though it does sound like they're at least out to make the sequel good and bloody,

[Joe Momma]

Or they don't take the Predator 'rules' as seriously as fans. Oh wait, I forgot the novels made them samurai!

I fucking hate that sci-fi "all members of an alien species have the same culture/social rules" BS. Christ, even if you just want to stick with all of the Preds in the movies being hunters, why not throw in some poaching assholes and drunken rednecks?

So many possible cliche vignettes:
The young Pred on his first hunt who can't take the shot, starts crying and embarrasses his dad...
The psycho animal-torturer who molests his kills...

Did the Predator movies have a tag line?

Don't forget Predator 2's trailer with the deep-voiced movie guy: "He's in town with a few days to KILL.

[PREDATOR490]

Dont think either of the Predator movies had tag lines like AVP 1. The movie trailers had more than a few of the standard cliche nonsense but nothing that comes directly to mind.

It is fairly retarded to assume the actions of hunters is a reflection of the entire species. They hunt for sport and indulge in a modicum of challenging themselves by engaging targets who can present a threat.
That just means they can be sporting in their kills. Dosent mean when the shit hits the fan they will be honourable or have the same level of discipline.

Hence, its not that shocking to find them killing unarmed opponents without much cause. Although in this case its a mute point. The people being taken out here are running around a warzone presumably after being told to leave.
Additionally, they have the army running around preparing to bomb the area and civilians carrying weapons. These civilians happen to be completely unprepared for what they are getting into and are basically walking food for the Xenomorphs.

In that kind of situation I think the Predator can be excused from bullshitting around when hes on the clock trying survive and clean up the mess the Xenos are making.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Dont think either of the Predator movies had tag lines like AVP 1. The movie trailers had more than a few of the standard cliche nonsense but nothing that comes directly to mind.

The taglines were present on the theatrical posters.

The tagline for Predator was "Soon the hunt will begin."

For Predator 2 it was, as Joe Momma said, "He's in town with a few days to kill."

[Anguirus]

Why? Weyland-Yutani wouldn't need prior knowledge of Xenos to be extremely interested in any sign of intelligent alien life.

Ash had a prior directive to return with the Alien, crew expendable. That's a fairly important revelation in the film. The information was all already in Mother: the ship had no communication with Earth when it was out there.

[Coaan]

Why? Weyland-Yutani wouldn't need prior knowledge of Xenos to be extremely interested in any sign of intelligent alien life.

Ash had a prior directive to return with the Alien, crew expendable. That's a fairly important revelation in the film. The information was all already in Mother: the ship had no communication with Earth when it was out there.

That is quite correct.

Also, in alien 2, during the meeting with all the lawyers and Ripley, it's quite clearly stated

" we sat down on lv-426 on company orders to retrieve this thing, which destroyed my crew...and your expensive ship"

That line alone says that the company knew about the alien before the nostromo arrived, as well as the fact that Ash had been sent along to ensure the alien survived in the first film. The information in Mother merely goes to show that the company knew all along that the aliens were there.

[DavidEC]

He might dispense with the armour because he's a single guy on a specops type mission. IIRC real specops are often less armoured than your regular foot patrols in Iraq because they need the endurance. P1 was one guy in a huge jungle, P2 was one guy in a huge city, environments which are for his purposes infinitely large, as in he could spend weeks walking around without retracing his steps.

AvP was a few guys in a very finite environment with lots of CQB, so they became more like heavy infantry. In addition they could have specialisation, with one Predator carrying medikit, one carrying comms, etc. Turn to AvP2 and we again have one Predator, who presumably carries all his equipment solo and so needs to preserve combat weight, dispensing with armour.

Of course, it begs the question, why don't they send a team of Predators to deal with this infestation, but I digress.

[DavidEC]

PS sorry I misread the plot, it looks like it is a team of predators. Still, the expected lack of CQB and larger battlespace probably helps to explain the lack of armour.

[Rye]

Sorry are you claiming Weyland-Yutani knew what was in the Space Jockey's ship before the Nostromo landed?

As others have said, that's the case just within Alien rather than the bollocks with novels, do you not remember Ash's revealed conspiracy, his "you have my sympathies" bit and his fawning over the perfection of the beast, though he'd not seen it?

As for the armour issue on the preds, I would've perhaps included a sleeker version (or personal shielding), perhaps something like the organic-looking metal on combine craft in half life 2. Going in unarmoured against organisms that bleed corrosive death is a bit silly.