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[RedImperator]

Erm, right. So in this scenario, I'm trapped in the Star Wars universe with a bunch of Star Wars nerds with Star Wars toys and delusions of adequacy. Because if you read all the Star Wars novels, you obviously understand enough of the Star Wars galaxy to successfully conduct military campaigns, capture shipyards, and convince influential people there's a fuck-off huge extragalactic conquest fleet of biowank monsters on the way.

I'm going to throw in my lot with the Mess, as they seem like the only one who have any chance, however slight, of actually knowing what they fuck they're doing.

[Darth Nostril]

Kyp Durron is going to work with you why?

Because we just rescued him from the Spice mines of Kessel, and our mission is the destruction of an Imperial research centre and all the Imperial forces present there, something that might appeal to his desire for revenge against the Empire that imprisoned him.

You are cruising around in Star Destroyers and clearly have zero command experience (or general experience of the SW galaxy).

It would be nice to take a few years learning and training then going after the Maw installation, the reason for such haste is basically to get there before anyone else and prevent the collection of superweapons from falling into the hands of, say, a Palpatinist apologist like Darth Hoth.
The ships do have trained crews & captains, I'm going to let them do their jobs . I'm no Thrawn, I'm not going to fucking micromanage every ship during a battle.

You look like random loser imperial remnants and there's no particular reason why the New Republic would trust you, or indeed Durron would trust you with the Maw Installation's impressive collection of superweapons.

The Rebel broadcast of the Emperors death was only relayed across the galaxy the day before we set off, many Imperial forces are going to refuse to believe it, denouncing it as Rebel propaganda, most of the galaxy is still under Imperial control as Sate Pestage grasps the reins of power on Coruscant. We're going to appear as a legitimate Imperial taskforce right up until we open fire.
The New Republic doesn't exist yet its still the Alliance of Free Planets, Mon Mothma won't announce its establishment for another six months, even when it does come into being how is the NR even going to know about what happened at the Maw? In the original EU timeline it'll be another seven years before they discover the existence of the installation by accident. I'm hardly going to run around broadcasting the details into the ether and I certainly won't be leaving any records nor survivors at the Maw.

Durron will be filled in as to why - foreknowledge of future extra-galactic threat, coalition forming on Outer Rim preparing to combat the threat - and invited to join, provided none of the other members of Operation Ear Fuck have any objections to inducting a Force user into the alliance.
Plus of course as mentioned above we freed him from Kessel & gave him a chance to take part in blowing Daalas little battlegroup into smithereens, don't underestimate the power of gratitude, especially from a kid.

Capturing the partly-completed Eclipse sounds like a more practical approach; unlike the Maw it's actually accessible without a force-user to divine the route in, and if a pathetic crime lord (Zhan) managed to capture it, a decent force of ISDs should be able to take the whole shipyard. If they built one superlaser-equipped SSD, I'm sure they can build more.

Well there are other members of the coalition who could go after the Eclipse while we take out the Maw, or several of us could group together and form Operation Ear Fucks Superweapon Procurement and Denial Division, every superweapon we capture is one that can be turned against the Vong, every one we destroy is one that can't be turned against us if our growing forces are ever deemed a threat.

Others of us have to work on a massively important thing, Logistics

They also each have a cloneworks with Ysalamir colonies inside, able to produce 1,000,000 clones a month.

I recommend restricting cloning to the minimum necessary for crewing ships & manning installations.
It's twenty years until the main Vong force shows up, there's no need to artificially boost our populations this early, especially when we don't have the infrastructure to support large populations in place.

[Darth Hoth]

At this point in the timeline, Kyp Durron is a kid. Not even a teenager, a child. Why do you assume that he can even run hyperdrives on autopilot at this stage?

[Darth Hoth]

[Tarkin]"You Rebel scum!"[/Tarkin]

Well for me that you have no interdictor vessels to keep me there, then. You did not think that I would stay and fight against hopeless odds, did you?

Do you seriously think that killing the heroes of the rebellion at bakura would make the galaxy a better place? There are several more threats they need to stop before your beloved Emperor reaches byss and takes on a new body. Or hey, how about we just use our knowledge to try and reform the New Republic so we have a competent government that isn't evil or oppressive? You know, warn them about the vong so they might actually be prepared for them. There are plenty of other options that don't consign the galaxy to eternal darkness under a tyrannical madman. If you intend to follow the latter option, then make no mistake, no matter how long it takes, I will track you down, and I will kill you.

"Emperor! The weak Republic has crumbled, but the Empire burns with a fire that will never be quenched. Nothing can destroy the Emperor’s glory or his glorious reign." (The Imperial Sourcebook, Second Edition)

But, given that we will be dealing with insane DE Palpatine, rather than the political mastermind that built the Empire, I am prepared to grudgingly concede my support; as has been pointed out, his ambitions are now as great a threat to the galaxy as the Rebel bumblers. And of course, we must check the threat of Samuel, who looks like he will do his best to build up a mini-Culture.

How about a golden mean: we support Palpatine's reconquest of the galaxy, but do nothing to hinder the Ruling Council's plot against him? Then, the Empire will be stronger, but left with a weak leadership more open to subversion democratisation.

Wow. I'll have to look up how long it took Zor to recycle this thread topic THIS TIME.

In a few months - everyone in SDN gets... SPACESHIPS!!!!!!111

Dude, stop trying to out Havok my out Starking.

Somebody needs to get a tally for the force the PRFY represents. We may just be able to keep up our pirating ways, drunken on rum and redheads in SPAAAAAACE!

Also... OMG 100 TIMES THE FIRE POWER!!! all concentrated on one ship doesn't seem like any sort of advantage over 34 ships that can strike at different locations simultaneously, and who by their selves can slag most planets. And as we know, a sufficient fleet (certainly not 100 SDs worth of firepower) can destroy one SSD with well more than a two SD escort.

or even a suicidal A-wing after we lure the SSD in close to a large moon or asteroid..

Not this again?!

It is bad enough that one still has to remind Trekkies about Ackbar ordering the fleet to "concentrate all fire on that Super Star Destroyer" before that "lone" A-wing crashed into the bridge, or Piett receiving the report that the fleet bombardment had knocked down their bridge shields. To hear this same fallacy repeated here on this board . . .

[Darth Nostril]

The day after the Emperor dies he's 9 years old recently imprisoned on Kessel and his parents are still alive, he's Force sensitive, something he was born with, and at this age his hatred and anger isn't as ingrained as it will become if left on Kessel.
Actually I'll revise my course of action to retrieving the Durron family from Kessel, if the other members of OEF agree then trying to retrieve Kyps brother from Carida, get the whole family back to OEF controlled territory then tutelage of the Force sensitive until we can take the Maw Installation, at the very least destroy it and deprive it to any egotistic empire builders.

[Samuel]

And of course, we must check the threat of Samuel, who looks like he will do his best to build up a mini-Culture.

Why do you hate freedom? You guys can have my fleet in return for a freehand for my social experiments... if you can find me that is.

Do we keep our appearences or are we put into someone elses body because it could be quite... awkward to wake up in someone elses body with their memory, addicitions and family. Not to mention that there is probably an Imperial agency dedicated to killing body snatchers.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Erm, right. So in this scenario, I'm trapped in the Star Wars universe with a bunch of Star Wars nerds with Star Wars toys and delusions of adequacy. Because if you read all the Star Wars novels, you obviously understand enough of the Star Wars galaxy to successfully conduct military campaigns, capture shipyards, and convince influential people there's a fuck-off huge extragalactic conquest fleet of biowank monsters on the way.

Well mind you, The central tenant of the "Ear-Fuck the Vong Combine" is to by and large stay OUT of the business of the EU till the vong, to stay out of meddling an other such things because we have no bloody idea how it will effect the timeline. A lot of these other people don't seem to understand we are dealing with 20years of 'history' here.

You can't very well try and do something just because you know its 'going' to happen. This talk fo 'rescuing' kyp when at this point in time hes a small child is just foolishness... We should really impose a BAN On anyone in our sector of space from even leaving and trying to influence events i nthe rest of the Galaxy. At this point the last thing we want to do is draw attention to ourselves! NO undermining politics, or dabbling with peoples history or some such!

We need to say 'home' as it were. We need to build industry, become independent produce food for millions of crew and soldiers, build factors and mine raw materials. It is a Lot of WORK. Here that? WORK people, none of this delusions of grandure business for at least 18 years or so!

As for you Samuel? Well you DID go on about reshaping the galaxy.. I'd recommend if you desier such htings, please wait till "history" has played itself out.

[Aaron]

Erm, right. So in this scenario, I'm trapped in the Star Wars universe with a bunch of Star Wars nerds with Star Wars toys and delusions of adequacy. Because if you read all the Star Wars novels, you obviously understand enough of the Star Wars galaxy to successfully conduct military campaigns, capture shipyards, and convince influential people there's a fuck-off huge extragalactic conquest fleet of biowank monsters on the way.

I'm going to throw in my lot with the Mess, as they seem like the only one who have any chance, however slight, of actually knowing what they fuck they're doing.

Chances are we do what we've suggested the last three times this came up; sell our ships and retire (with our families) to some quiet backwater and live a life of obscene luxury.

[Lord Pounder]

On general principal I'd go vape Samuel and Hoth. Then turn my fleet over to whoever is the strongest faction in return for enough money to go live a life of sheer luxury on the Star Wars equivalent of Risa.

[CaptainChewbacca]

The Emperor's return to power must be prevented, he's simply too malevolent to be allowed to exist. Thrawn, however, was (in my mind) the last and greatest hope for a restored and egalitarian empire. I am hoping PRFY and Operation: Earfuck can find a way to make him Supreme Allied Commander, because once we glass the Ssi-ruu at P'wheck (their homeworld) and we capture the Black Sword command, we're going to be sitting pretty as the single-largest unified command. Thrawn can bring the warlords back in line with our help, and it'll be like the Empire never left!

[Styphon]

Well mind you, The central tenant of the "Ear-Fuck the Vong Combine" is to by and large stay OUT of the business of the EU till the vong, to stay out of meddling an other such things because we have no bloody idea how it will effect the timeline. A lot of these other people don't seem to understand we are dealing with 20years of 'history' here.

Here's the thing though... the PRFY is out doing their chaotic thing, the Mess just sold a massive fleet to the highest bidder, various other people who haven't signed up with the EarFuckers are trying to save Thrawn, or kill Luke, or what have you... In short, the timeline is fucked anyway you slice it, because we don't have enough ships to stop everyone else from fucking it up (unless we snag a couple mega-posters who haven't chimed in on this thread yet).

Even if we do manage to prevent the corruption of the timeline, I think we can at least snag Centerpoint before the Corellian Trilogy. A superweapon against the Vong, we save that system the bad guys blow up, and it's ~14 years in so we can still do some good logistical work before we get around to it.

[Starglider]

What is with all this Samuel-hate? At worst he's hardly likely to be a greater threat than any of the hundred or so minor belligerents featured in the novels (not to mention the thousands of statelets that never even get a mention), and that's assuming he's actually aggressive. If the Culture is his model then violence would be a last resort. Frankly there are more pressing problems, including the hundreds of trolls and general morons who will be blowing up random crap with the mini-fleets they've been given.

[Themightytom]

Ok It looks like those with good EU knowledge are currently hashing out the list of what to do and what not to do throughout the course of the of EU timeline till the vong, Things need to be properly organized on the home front.

According to the OP, we have "about twenty five systems with habitable planets that exists on the Outer Rim" Now, while the rest of you are working out where to muck up the timeline... Others of us have to work on A massively important thing, Logistics... We are going to have eventually well over a hundred ISD's, with a crew of around 40,000 Thats right away almost 4,000,000, and that is not even counting the hundreds upon hundreds of smaller ships we'll have in our fleet.

We are going to need to set up Titanic food production, procure HyperMatter fuel processing plants and storehouses as well as gather facilities to build our own Manufacturing centers for Ammo, goods, arms and other daily essentials.

WHile we are told we have 25 star systems along the outter rim, we arn't given a list of planets. We need to scout out all worlds and immediately begin to set up planetary production facilities on the best of them using our massive fleet of Acclamators to transport resources, We'll need to set up Immense mining colonies as well then ore processing ((this is were snipping a WorldDevastator would come in handy))

That was why i wanted to cop the Corellian system via centerpoint after securing Maw. No one knows about maw except of course for other SD.net people, and If I have Kyp, they probably won't be getting in easily. maw has the facilities to build at least one death star and act as a defensible position, Corellia is an entire star system with several populated planets plenty of natural resources and defensibility in terms of the giant interdiction field.

[Themightytom]

or even a suicidal A-wing after we lure the SSD in close to a large moon or asteroid..

Not this again?!

It is bad enough that one still has to remind Trekkies about Ackbar ordering the fleet to "concentrate all fire on that Super Star Destroyer" before that "lone" A-wing crashed into the bridge, or Piett receiving the report that the fleet bombardment had knocked down their bridge shields. To hear this same fallacy repeated here on this board . . .

Relax Hoth I was totally kidding.
EDIT: fixed my quotes

[Lord Pounder]

Hoth has no apparent sense of humour, one more reason to frag him.

[Themightytom]

You know if Avatar prime lends his support with the katana fleet along with Darth Nostril, my actaully would ahve a pretty good chance of success as it wouldn't be contingent on breaking the fourth wall in order to obtain enough ships to defeat Daala.

[Darth Nostril]

Well mind you, The central tenant of the "Ear-Fuck the Vong Combine" is to by and large stay OUT of the business of the EU till the vong, to stay out of meddling any other such things because we have no bloody idea how it will effect the timeline. A lot of these other people don't seem to understand we are dealing with 20 years of 'history' here.

You can't very well try and do something just because you know its 'going' to happen. This talk of 'rescuing' kyp when at this point in time he's a small child is just foolishness... We should really impose a BAN On anyone in our sector of space from even leaving and trying to influence events in the rest of the Galaxy. At this point the last thing we want to do is draw attention to ourselves! NO undermining politics, or dabbling with peoples history or some such!

We need to stay 'home' as it were. We need to build industry, become independent produce food for millions of crew and soldiers, build factors and mine raw materials. It is a Lot of WORK. Hear that? WORK people, none of this delusions of grandeur business for at least 18 years or so!

I hear you, any actions I take early on are simply for the purpose of stopping superweapons from falling into the hands of the petty SDN warlords, 'rescuing' Kyp Durron and his parents is more a side effect of securing potentially devestating firepower for OEF in the Maw installation.
There's also raising the kid in a benign environment with his parents still alive that's going to steer him away from the dark side.

[Crossroads Inc.]

Attention Attention! I would like to call to order a Council Of Factions! Let be known those of the OEF Comine are invited as well as those of the PRFY/Mess Imperial Awesome.

On the table at the Council are the following topics that MOST be resolved and discussed by all

Topic One: The rescuing of kyp Durran ((andFamily) for future use in eventually taking, and if need be, destroying the Maw Installation
Topic Two: Impeding the re-birth of a mad insane Palps for purposes of keeping him from destroying vast amounts of Imperial Resources.
Topic Three: Seek out Thrawn' and work to have him move into a position of Power for an eventual 'Kinder Gentler' Empire.
Topic Four: Discovery and procurement of the Katana Fleet.

Addition items that may reach the table are the development of a sustainable infrastructure for food production and raw goods manufacturing.
I would like to put these items before the assembly of Sednet warlords for open discussion.

The Council is now in Session!

Members of the Lord Kuja Combine to Eear-Fuck the Vong:

Kuja-Twelve Imperial-class ISDs
Crossroads-Six Imperial-class ISDs
lord Martiya-One Imperial-class ISDs
White Haven-Six Imperial-class ISDs
Jason L. Miles-One Imperial-class ISDs
Styphon-One Imperial-class ISDs
Themightytom-One Imperial-class ISDs
Lord Relvenous-One Imperial-class ISDs
Karmic Knight-One Imperial-class ISDs
Darth Nostril-One Imperial-class ISDs


I invite all others to please step forward and announce the respective PowerBlocks they wish to be affliated with

[Havok]

2,500 to 7,500 posts
-Six Imperial-class Star Destroyers
-Eighteen Acclamator-class Assault Transports
-One hundred twenty Lancer Frigates
-The Rank of Admiral

Zor

In this thread, Q picks up every non banned established member of SD.net and says that he is putting us all in charge of a group of whores and we are the pimps and madams to run them.

What Q gives you is based around postcount and status, it goes as such.

2,500 to 7,500 posts
-Ten girls of modest appearance, all of them STD Free but one pregnant at any given time, two addicted to crack, two one with knife wounds
-Two girls of above average appearance who can't speak a lick of English
-A case of cheap beer
-A room in a cheap motel that charges by the hour

Not-Zor

I take my whores, clone whores and fleet and establish the most well defended, heavily armed prostitution business the galaxy has ever seen.

[Darth Nostril]

As far as I recall Thrawn was drawn into Imperial service due to his knowledge of an approaching external threat, the carrot was his belief that a strong Empire was the only credible defense.
We have to show him that we, the OEA, are a more credible defense, we know the enemy is approaching and all our actions are geared toward making sure we have at the very least an adequate defense in place before they get here.

[Lord Relvenous]

Which won't be easy as the resources of OEF are very low right now. We'd have to hope that the Mess throws in with us, which looks unlikely.

[Questor]

I don't know, If we just bide our time, we should be able to be a pretty potent force. Its not like any of the fleets I remember from the YV series were bigger than the one we have.

[Darth Nostril]

We, the OEF, already have what looks like more firepower available than the NR commited to the entire YV war.
Not that I'm being cynical in any way concerning the EU deployment of forces

[Questor]

Of course, once we start BDZing Vong planetoids, Shep will join us.

[Lord Relvenous]

I don't know, If we just bide our time, we should be able to be a pretty potent force. Its not like any of the fleets I remember from the YV series were bigger than the one we have.

That might be true, but a lot of our fleet will have to be used for defense of our home base, meaning it won't be available for deployment against the YV. Unless you're suggesting we leave our base of operations undefended...