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Re: Avatar's Extended edition thoughts

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Alyrium Denryle wrote:let me ask you a question:

Do you think the RDA would have left if the Na'Vi said, in no uncertain terms after talking it through "We dont want anything you have. Go away."?

If not, then what the fuck are you even going on about? If so, provide supporting evidence.
No, the RDA would have stayed. I've noted the RDA aren't good people from the first page, and how they want those floating dinner plates. It's immaterial when it comes to the Na'Vi's motivations. I've been talking about the Na'Vi's xenophobia the whole time.

Do the Na'Vi know what's really going on? If so, how? They don't talk to the humans. The Na'Vi(specifically, Ney'tiri's sister) burned down the bulldozers during the "Grace period"(which might not have happened, the RDA might have continued mining while negotiations were on-going, or its possible that they stopped while talking to the Na'Vi to better their bargaining position, we don't know), when they were engaging in some sort of dialogue, building a school, learning each other's languages, etc. But the Na'Vi never find out about the rocks, because the Na'Vi don't talk to non-Na'Vi. In my scenario, you know about the gold, but do the Na'Vi know about the unobtanium? All they know about is the trees being knocked over. Which they are (rightfully) pissed over, but it never gets to a point where they sit down and really discuss it.

If the mining equipment is off, and they're talking, and the daughter burns down the bulldozers in revenge for the trees, is that justified? If a salesman knocks over your mailbox, and wants to talk to you about fixing it and selling some stuff to you in the meantime, is the burning down of his car justified for the knocking over of the mailbox, to let him know you're not interested? If not, why not? What if its the only telephone poll to your house? Is it justified then? I'd imagine that would make the salesman one of two things, 1) scared for his life at the crazy people and run away and never come back, or 2) determined to get back at you for your unreasonable behavior. Sure, the salesman might have wanted to turn your entire property into a salt mine, but you didn't know that, because he didn't have time to explain before he knocked over your mailbox, so it's already personal for you.

When the salesman starts coming with armed guards and starts his own personal salt mine, of course that's bad. But so is blowing up bulldozers and killing the people around them. There's a reason why in westerns, which this plot is of course, ripped off of, they don't have the emissaries from the evil railroad company throats slit by the kind village for not being a member of their village and sent to negotiate by the company. At least not if they want us(the audience) on their side.

If I were a Amway salesman in your neighborhood, I'd be afraid to go near your house, for it would be perfectly justified in your mind, that if they knocked over a lawn gnome filled with your grandmother's ashes(since its culturally significant to you) or are a different race than you, there's a chance they might not get out alive. That doesn't make the Na'Vi good people, it makes them assholes, even if they are in the legal right for defending their property. I guess the proper thing the Na'Vi should have done, as soon as the RDA arrived for talks, was to tie Grace to a stake and burn her for even dare trying to talk to them when they didn't want these people here after they knocked over their trees, to give the RDA a real message about people coming to their land and ruining it. That would have shown those imperialist corporate assholes whose moon they were on, right? :roll:

I've stated since the first page that the RDA don't have the right to mine. But the Na'Vi are xenophobic people who push out others and don't bother speaking unless its with people exactly like them. If they're not, they get the boot or the knife. That isn't the hero, that's the redneck with the shotgun in a horror movie.
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