What can Kill Dragonball Z Characters, especially Saiyans?

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2002-10-09 02:51pm

simple:

Millenia from Grandia II with a few Final Fantasy Black Mages backing her up for good measure. Throw in a Valune Empire Air-Battleship from Skies of Arcadia and the SS wouldn't even get a first shot off.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2002-10-09 03:22pm

IG-88E wrote:yes, this is not some POS american cartoon where episodes have little/nothing to do with each other. I mean come on, the Johnny Bravo, the five I've been FORCED to watch, have no continuity whatsoever.

No, it's a piece of shit Japanese cartoon based on a comic that was entertaining for the first few issues, if you're eight, and then quickly betrayed the absolute lack of range of it's principal writer and artist.

Hell Toriyama can only draw about four people, and he reuses them in everything. (see Chrono Trigger for details).

Dragonball is pathetic. The plots in WWE wrestling are more imaginative.

Don't abuse your brain, read some real manga, like Lone Wolf and Cub.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-09 03:36pm

oooohhh

Truely Fitting would be Lone Wolf performing a "Perfect Gate" on Buu, and Killing the sucker, Perminatly!

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2002-10-10 02:20am

"(see Chrono Trigger for details)."

i certainly hope you're not insulting the best Console RPG of all time

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Crono Trigger and Crono Cross are both a hell of a lot better than DB(tryingtobethenexdtpokemon)Z.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-10 02:40am

No Chronotrigger is first a Manga, then an RPG game. The manga characters look almost ID to all of the artists OTHER Manga characters. THe play of both games is so much better then the story of the Manga they are based on.

Hmm, Squaresoft RPG characters vs. all of DBZ?

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2002-10-10 01:28pm

well my scenario at the top of this page has Characters from 2 Dreamcast RPGs(Grandia II and Skies of Arcadia) and from Squaresofts RPGs( any Final Fantasy with Black Mages)

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2002-10-10 03:52pm

Moonshadow wrote:"(see Chrono Trigger for details)."

i certainly hope you're not insulting the best Console RPG of all time .

Crono Trigger and Crono Cross are both a hell of a lot better than DB(tryingtobethenexdtpokemon)Z.

Look at the Chrono Trigger character designs.

Notice how they're EXACTLY THE SAME as the designs for the DBZ characters.

Notice that they're th esame artist.

Realise that he can only draw four people.

Moonshadow · Post by **Moonshadow** » 2002-10-11 01:50am

not arguing that, i'm just saying "those four characters" were put to better use in Crono Trigger. I also have noticed how Goku and Crono look the same.

Also Crono Cross used the same guy who did the characters from FF VIII and FF X.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-11 02:20am

I am now starting to laugh imagining Sepiroth vs. Buu.

WTF, are you tring to turn me into candy AGAIN, don't you know this form is immune to status effects, suck a Meteo.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-10-11 08:22pm

Moonshadow wrote:Crono Trigger and Crono Cross are both a hell of a lot better than DB(tryingtobethenexdtpokemon)Z.

Uh you do know that Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z and (maybe)GT are hella older than Pokemon?

Hell, Digimon came before Pokemon, Pokemon accually ripped the evolution thing off of Digimon.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-11 08:59pm

Who can beat the DBZ characters...hmm...

Galactus. The Imperator of Zan.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-12 02:04am

Within Cartoons

1. Bugs Bunny *Knows about the 4th Window (can step outside of the flow of the cartoon, knock out the animation staff, and do whatever he wants to the any and all of the Z fighters), can survive the destruction of the universe, can remove things from continuity, Indestructable, hell of a lot better written/Drawn

2. Daffy Duck *Aware of the 4th window (To almost the same extent as Bugs), can ALSO survive the destruction of the universe, nearly indestructable, also better written.

3. Speedy Gonzalas, Road Runner, & Taz: Actually faster then anything in DBZ, Partial 4th window awareness (They can rape reality), Indestructable, still Much better written.

4. Droopy: Miles slower then anything, always wins by having the perfect defense and timing.

Within Fiction:

1. Any Amberite: can manipulate realities, can bring whole armies to their aid, use magic, etc.

2. Alice as White Princess of Wonderland: Fully aware of scale, proportion, and unreality, in Wonderland after defeating the Queen of Hearts Alice, could use a culture vessel as a Croquet ball and not think anything wrong with it. She can play marbles with the kids at the end of M.I.B.

3. The Culture: Enough said

4. Monkey King from Chinese Legend (First he would give Goku a whack between the legs for being a shameless rip off of him. (Gee, how many staff wielding cloud riding Monkey like beings that can transport themselves across the universe, and beat up gods can their possibly be.) Then he would make everyone of the Z fighters wear a crown identical to the one Buddha tricked him into putting on, just to teach them a lesson. Actually Monkey King may qualify as the 1. threat to dragon Ball.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-12 11:47pm

The Saint of Killers

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2002-10-13 06:42am

Moonshadow wrote: Also Crono Cross used the same guy who did the characters from FF VIII and FF X.

No it didn't.

It was Nobuteru Yuuki, who did the characters for Record of Lodoss War.

The FF character designer for 7, 8, and 10 was Tetsuya Nomura.

Smiling Bandit · Post by **Smiling Bandit** » 2002-10-14 12:04pm

What I have realized by watching this thread is that most of you have no conception just how ludicrously powerful these DBZ guys are.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-10-14 01:06pm

I'm amazed that the DBZ fanboys have missed the truth of the matter, that Goku cannot survive within a vacuum, I mean he states this against Frieza on Namek. And before you claim Vegita and Bardock, Bardock was not in space but the upper atmosphere and Vegita was within his space pod...neither were in the hard vacuum of space.

Seriously they are ground based creatures with the exception of a few villains, the Saiyans are pathetically weak unless story dictaes by the very fact, once you destroy the planet below, they die...unless Toriyama reneged this FACT and decided otherwise, which then makes no sense given the climax of the Frieza saga was just that.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-15 04:04am

Why Dragon Ball is just a pathetic rip off of the Monkey King legend.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-16 12:49am

Smiling Bandit, I know exactly how powerful they are, how much power they waste, how much of their potential they never use, and how much their moronic level of intelligence shines compared to the remaining population of their universe. I don't think that gaining their power is likely, which is why I want to know how to kill them efficiently.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2002-10-16 01:10am

lets see em handle fighting the guy from Fist of the North Star

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-16 01:16am

"Let me show you my true power"- Splut
"You face a true super Saiyaji-" Splut
" Gohan, you have to study to grow up to be a complete wuss, and be absolutely useless at saving the world" Splut,Splut,Splut,Splut,Splut "Good Riddance"

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-16 01:47am

That was my suggestion long ago.

Of course I still say that Rei is far cooler then Kenishiro.. I mean the I punch things and they explode isn't as fun as my fingernails rip you into many piecies two frames later.

On the other hand, I would actually like to see a Trigun crossover with those idiots. Think about it. Buu and Cell vs. Vash

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-16 02:38am

Or Legato- "Stop nuking yourself, Stop nuking yourself."

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-16 02:45am

And just think about how much more meaningful and tragic Wolfwood's death was compared to all of the not quite deaths in Dragon Ball Verse.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-16 03:09am

WOLFWOOD's NOT DEAD!!! He's just been healing, and he's hiding out at my house right now, and we're having a great time together and... Okay, he's dead, and I guess I can accept it, but it still sucks, he was my favorite character in the series.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-10-16 03:24am

Mine too

hmmm, just having alternate con fantasies about the guy dressed as Nick Wolfwood (Real Gun Cross and all) vs. hoards of screaming DBZ fans.....