Favorite SciFi Ship

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-04-07 04:05pm

andrewgpaul wrote: Also, the old (sadly, probably non-canon now) Gothic-class battleship

I wouldn't bet on it. The old Tyranid ships are still used in the artwork. I see nothing to suggest that that ship no longer exists. It's probably just beyond modern ability to build.

Vanas · Post by **Vanas** » 2005-04-07 04:14pm

Ah hell, I forgot the GTD Orion class. A two kilometer long blue brick crossed with an aircraft carrier.
Goes with the Kushan Avatar in the 'I like it and Don't Know Why' category.

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Black Admiral · Post by **Black Admiral** » 2005-04-07 04:18pm

andrewgpaul wrote:Also, the old (sadly, probably non-canon now) Gothic-class battleship.

Actually, one of the short stories has one of those as the flagship of the Ultramarines fleet (named the Gauntlet of Macragge).

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2005-04-07 04:25pm

NecronLord wrote:
andrewgpaul wrote: Also, the old (sadly, probably non-canon now) Gothic-class battleship
I wouldn't bet on it. The old Tyranid ships are still used in the artwork. I see nothing to suggest that that ship no longer exists. It's probably just beyond modern ability to build.

Oh? *raises eyebrow*
And where might one catch a glimpse of these older Tyranid designs?

For that matter, is there a model of that Gothic class cruiser for sale to the general public?

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-04-07 04:37pm

Bob the Gunslinger wrote:Oh? *raises eyebrow*
And where might one catch a glimpse of these older Tyranid designs?

For that matter, is there a model of that Gothic class cruiser for sale to the general public?

It's been in several descriptions of the battle of Mcragge. That type of vessel is still the one canonically used by the tyranids at that time. The old wraithships are also still canon.

Not AFAIK, you may be able to mail order it.

Balrog · Post by **Balrog** » 2005-04-07 05:22pm

Stofsk wrote:
Balrog wrote:Nova-class Dreadnaughts from B5. Nothing says bad-ass like a mile-long flying armored brick with 22 oversized plasma cannons
It's a pity we rarely saw those awesome vessels engage in battles they WON, as opposed to being the Minbari punching bags of the universe. Instead we get those shitty Omega class destroyers, with their shitty rotating hull. What bullshit.

Well, at least we got to see one take a Sharlin down with it, much more then what any Omega has done

Nephtys · Post by **Nephtys** » 2005-04-07 05:29pm

Well, at least we got to see one take a Sharlin down with it, much more then what any Omega has done

At least you can go a week without throwing up in an Omega, and it has uh... killed.. em. Other Earthforce ships?

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2005-04-07 06:00pm

The Omega kicked Streib ass! Oh, and I think that you can see the Nova firing away in the background in one of the battle scenes. I don't remember which one, I just remember thinking "huh... blue bolts."

andrewgpaul · Post by **andrewgpaul** » 2005-04-07 06:14pm

NecronLord wrote:
andrewgpaul wrote: Also, the old (sadly, probably non-canon now) Gothic-class battleship
I wouldn't bet on it. The old Tyranid ships are still used in the artwork. I see nothing to suggest that that ship no longer exists. It's probably just beyond modern ability to build.

Or, just built somewhere else. There's obvious design differences between the Gothic and Armageddon sectors when it comes to ship design.

What I was getting at, is rather tenuous; both Spacefleet and BFG have Cobra Destroyers and Firestorm frigates. Assuming these are different ship designs with identical combat abilities (ie, both types of Cobra), then, if the model sizes are anything to go by, the old Spacefleet battleships are the equivalent of (small-ish) BFG cruisers. Doesn't rule out the old sword-shaped ships still existing, but does create a possible conflict.

However, that could be explained as 'scale creep'; as ships got larger over the years, what was once a battleship becomes a light cruiser in comparison to newer vessels. Compare the Not Invented Here from Banks' Excession; 10 or so km long, originally built as a General Systems Vehicle, downgraded to a Medium Systems Vehicle as more recent ships reached 100km long.