BSG: "Home" Part 2

Skylon · Post by **Skylon** » 2005-08-27 04:03pm

InnocentBystander wrote:So was I the only one that found it strange that Caprica Boomer knew something that dead-in-the-morgue boomer heard? Regarding when Boomer said "You asked why", after Adama was finished choking her, in case no one knows what I'm talking about.

Galactica Boomer could still be essentially a "hot-michrophone" for lack of a better term. Still picking up sights, sounds etc and transmitting them back to the other Cylons.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-08-27 05:30pm

Skylon wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:So was I the only one that found it strange that Caprica Boomer knew something that dead-in-the-morgue boomer heard? Regarding when Boomer said "You asked why", after Adama was finished choking her, in case no one knows what I'm talking about.
Galactica Boomer could still be essentially a "hot-michrophone" for lack of a better term. Still picking up sights, sounds etc and transmitting them back to the other Cylons.

Yes, but that leads me to believe there's some non-living bits inside the human-cylons. And non-living bits might be detectable, ya know?

Grand Moff Yenchin · Post by **Grand Moff Yenchin** » 2005-08-27 06:52pm

LadyTevar wrote:as for the BSG Wiki... make sure that's for neo-BSG, not oldBSG. IIRC, that information was true for the original.

Well it's an "all series" wiki which segregates the entries for subjects. The mentioning of the 13th tribe leaving after the others was referenced as "Mini Series".

Funny thing is that after watching all the stuff in the TV series I still don't feel much urge in watching the Miniseries.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2005-08-27 08:25pm

Funny thing is that after watching all the stuff in the TV series I still don't feel much urge in watching the Miniseries.

I would recommend it. If you have enjoyed the series so far and aren't a fanatical Old BSG purist (as most who commented on it here were apparently), you'll probably like it. It makes some of the earlier episodes clearer, and contains some of the better scenes of the series IMO.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-08-27 08:33pm

Noble Ire wrote:
Funny thing is that after watching all the stuff in the TV series I still don't feel much urge in watching the Miniseries.
I would recommend it. If you have enjoyed the series so far and aren't a fanatical Old BSG purist (as most who commented on it here were apparently), you'll probably like it. It makes some of the earlier episodes clearer, and contains some of the better scenes of the series IMO.

It's possible he'd hate it too. I love the series, and to think I almost missed it because the mini sucked balls so bad.

xerex · Post by **xerex** » 2005-08-27 08:54pm

Knife wrote:
Noble Ire wrote:
Funny thing is that after watching all the stuff in the TV series I still don't feel much urge in watching the Miniseries.
I would recommend it. If you have enjoyed the series so far and aren't a fanatical Old BSG purist (as most who commented on it here were apparently), you'll probably like it. It makes some of the earlier episodes clearer, and contains some of the better scenes of the series IMO.
It's possible he'd hate it too. I love the series, and to think I almost missed it because the mini sucked balls so bad.

The mini was hit and miss. Several great scenes but alot of boooring stretches in between.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2005-08-27 09:12pm

From what I've seen, people who got into the series without watching the Mini, then who saw the Mini rather liked it. Its mostly people who saw the Mini first, then the series who dislike the Mini.

I myself saw the first two episodes of BSG before I saw the Mini (truth be told I only saw the second half of the Mini) and what I saw of the Mini looked very good and felt just like the series. I liked some of the chilling moments like when Apollo has the fleet jump and leave behind the non-jump capable ships. You hear them pleading over the radio asking for cordinates to try and head to at sub-light speed. Then just as they are preparing to jump, a massive Cylon strike force enters the area and launches a barrage of missiles to wipe out the ships. All those people, dead.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2005-08-27 09:36pm

I rather liked the Mini, it was great sci-fi. Then again there wasn't much "good" sci-fi to compare it to at the time

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2005-08-28 12:10am

Alyeska wrote:From what I've seen, people who got into the series without watching the Mini, then who saw the Mini rather liked it. Its mostly people who saw the Mini first, then the series who dislike the Mini.

That's somewhat like myself. I thought I'd give "33" a shot despite a lot of negative word about neo-BSG on the net... and I thought "WTF?!? That was the tightest TV show script I've ever seen."

A few weeks later I saw the first half of the mini and I thought "What a slow-moving show, compared to the series!"

After "Kobol's Last Gleaming" I finally saw the whole mini through, only then I found out that while the mini wasn't a stinker, it had a lot of missed storytelling opportunities. All the character interaction weren't as snappy as the writing on the series and they didn't show as much tell us that there was a nuclear holocaust going on.

Skylon · Post by **Skylon** » 2005-08-28 01:35am

I was hardly thrilled about the prospect of the new BSG. I was hardly a fan of the old one to begin with. Watched the mini mainly because my roommates were, but I was pretty damn cranky having mono at the time and all. Thought it had some potential, but again I was cranky so I think I short-changed it.

Watched "Bastille Day", then dug up the previous two episodes and felt myself sucked into a sci-fi show in a way I hadn't since Babylon 5 ended.

On re-watching the mini, it was a very good pilot, and did a great job setting the series up and even stands alone nicely.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2005-08-28 01:38am

You know, in most cases people tend to like something, then once the honeymoon period is over they manage to convince themselves that they really hate it. Here it seems to be the opposite happening.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2005-08-28 01:43am

Spyder wrote:You know, in most cases people tend to like something, then once the honeymoon period is over they manage to convince themselves that they really hate it. Here it seems to be the opposite happening.

*shrug* if you say so. I think that the series is a better quality of story telling that makes the mini pale in comparison. If the series were of the same caliber of the mini, I'd not watch it.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2005-08-28 02:06am

Did the nebula remind anyone else of the opening sequence of the original BSG?

Steven Snyder · Post by **Steven Snyder** » 2005-08-28 04:38am

I am starting to get the feeling that the Earth the Colonials have found is a Cylon fabrication.

It is however a trap, set carefully and deliberatly by the Cylons. It is just far enough out for Boomer to have her child before the fleet arrives. Once the Cylons have the child, the commandment from their god to reproduce has been completed and they are free to wipe out the fleet at large.

TimothyC · Post by **TimothyC** » 2005-08-28 05:05am

I have a theory, but as I've hear rumors of this as a spoiler before I'm going to protect it. The folowing broken link is to an image of the URL of an image that has the spoiler/theory in it. Thus if you don't want to read it there is not way you can

++http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8332/spoil29tl.jpg

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2005-08-28 06:31am

Spyder wrote:Has anyone got a torrent? Mininova and torrentspy have failed me and it will be many, many months before BSG filters it's way down here.

They're posted regularly on alt.binaries.multimedia.sci-fi. You're an ASVS reg, you should know how to get them better than most of the yahoos here

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2005-08-28 06:52am

Managed to get it in the end. My news server sucks balls, doesn't even carry that group.

Even if it did, often half the binaries wind up getting stripped out. Considering signing on for a proper NNTP service.

Thag · Post by **Thag** » 2005-08-28 01:47pm

Something I was thinking about after the episode ended: according to the prophecy, Roslin only has to find the path to Earth before she dies. Well, they've got the path now. Does that make her expendable?

Srynerson · Post by **Srynerson** » 2005-08-28 01:56pm

Thag wrote:Something I was thinking about after the episode ended: according to the prophecy, Roslin only has to find the path to Earth before she dies. Well, they've got the path now. Does that make her expendable?

That might have been the original intention, but presumably no longer is. The special Sci-Fi ran on nBSG some months ago included an interview with the actress stating that the President was originally going to die relatively early in the series, but as the first season progressed, Moore and the other execs on the show thought that there was "more to explore about the character" or words to that effect. The implication I took from that is that the character will be around for awhile.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2005-08-28 05:24pm

5/5

Fucking AWESOME!

Six fucking with Baltar just to get her shits and giggles. Zareck continuing to be the butt-monkey of the show. Boomer mixing truth and lies willy-nilly. Dr Coddle!

Okay what we know for certain; Cylon's do indeed upload when they die, but the point of 'death' is a bit unclear. Boomer 'claims' that she doesn't know anything about what the 'other' Boomer did, and yet she manages to make the old man's blood go cold with four little words.

Is Boomer really free of any 'sleeper' programs though? I don't think so, not convinced yet.

Poor Chief/Helo. Can anyone say 'awkward'?

Akaramu Shinja wrote:Caprica-Boomer said "Ask me why" and while it's a hint at what he said to dead-Boomer, she clearly didn't know. She just knows he wants to find out the truth behind it. Or maybe I'm the only one that managed to follow it like that, if anyone disagrees, I expect boot licking when we find out I'm right later on in the series

Actually she said; "And you ask why."

Akaramu Shinja · Post by **Akaramu Shinja** » 2005-08-28 05:33pm

Crown wrote:Actually she said; "And you ask why."

Hm I went over it again, closed my eyes and yeah, you're absolutely right. Curious...

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-08-28 05:56pm

Akaramu Shinja wrote:
Crown wrote:Actually she said; "And you ask why."
Hm I went over it again, closed my eyes and yeah, you're absolutely right. Curious...

I thought she'd said "you ask(ed) why". Thanks for clearing that up

Uranium? I'd never thought of the comparsion until you'd mentioned it, but you're right the oldBSG did start with a very nice picture of a nebula during the "Life here started out there" opening.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2005-08-28 05:57pm

MariusRoi wrote:I have a theory, but as I've hear rumors of this as a spoiler before I'm going to protect it. The folowing broken link is to an image of the URL of an image that has the spoiler/theory in it. Thus if you don't want to read it there is not way you can

++http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8332/spoil29tl.jpg

It's not showing up for me... there's just a white page with the img code on it.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2005-08-28 10:01pm

Just saw it...

Might Six be something other than a Cylon? This series' version of Count Iblis, perhaps? The physical one we saw in the mini might be a real Humanocylon (since we've seen more of her on Caprica), but are there any real evidence that shows us whatever Baltar's imaginary Six learns affects the rest of the Cylons in any manner?

Oh, and "Fracking hypochondriacs! There's one on every bloody ship!".

Priceless.

Grasscutter · Post by **Grasscutter** » 2005-08-28 10:27pm

LadyTevar wrote:
MariusRoi wrote:I have a theory, but as I've hear rumors of this as a spoiler before I'm going to protect it. The folowing broken link is to an image of the URL of an image that has the spoiler/theory in it. Thus if you don't want to read it there is not way you can

++http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8332/spoil29tl.jpg
It's not showing up for me... there's just a white page with the img code on it.

I thought that at first too, but it's actually an image telling you the URL for the spoiler image.