U Law vs. Agent Smith

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-22 08:51pm

Both are at the hight of their powers, but Smith can't jump into another persons and it is assumed this battle takes place in the matrix and U Law's powers work in the matrix. who wins?

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-22 08:56pm

Who's U Law?

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-22 08:57pm

jaeger115 wrote:Who's U Law?

he is the main bad guy from teh movie "The One" I figured it would be cool having the main bad guy from the matrix fight the main bad guy from The One

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-01-22 09:07pm

U Law > Agent Smith.

He was fucking invincible when he was fighting - tireless, unbelievable strength and speed, reflexes beyond compare and he was a martial arts and firearms master.

And lets not forget that he was using vehicles as HtH weapons.

I think U Law vs Stitch would be an interesting fight for that very reason.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-22 09:10pm

I agree that U-Law was stronger. He was at least as fast (could block bullets), but he picked up a pair of motorcycles and used them as brass knuckles!

The critics pasted "The One", but I got a kick out of it.

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-22 09:24pm

Darth Wong wrote:I agree that U-Law was stronger. He was at least as fast (could block bullets), but he picked up a pair of motorcycles and used them as brass knuckles!

The critics pasted "The One", but I got a kick out of it.

I thought the movie was quite cool I thought of it as a poor man's Matrix

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-01-22 09:26pm

Darth Wong wrote:The critics pasted "The One", but I got a kick out of it.

That's because critics look for such elements as "character development" and other head shrinking mumbo-jumbo.

Me, I just sit back and wathc the fists adn firearms fly. Ain't nutin wrong with a good 'ol popcorn flick here or there.

Seele · Post by **Seele** » 2003-01-22 09:39pm

I really loved the end at the prison world, with Yulaw stating <Spoiler Warning>

"I'm Yulaw, and I'm nobody's bitch! You are mine!!!" And procedes to play the ultimate game of king of the hill. But I always wonder if Yulaw or even Law would be able to take on a Jedi if both are armed with lightsabers. But I'll leave that to another debate.
On the Matrix one, I think Yulaw would would win in a fight that most likely take all day.

Shadow Walker · Post by **Shadow Walker** » 2003-01-22 09:41pm

I'm going with U-Law. It would be close, but U-Law would win because he is a bit faster and stronger. He also does a better job at blocking than Agent Smith.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2003-01-22 09:46pm

Of course I never particularly agreed with any of the people who insisted the One was in any way a rip-off of the Matrix (a distinctly odd notion given the fact that they're stories are nothing alike).

Onto the debate Yulaw's got anything we've seen Smith done surpassed at least a bit.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-22 09:57pm

SylasGaunt wrote:Of course I never particularly agreed with any of the people who insisted the One was in any way a rip-off of the Matrix (a distinctly odd notion given the fact that they're stories are nothing alike).

I think a lot of people confuse the slow-mo Hong Kong action-movie fight choreography style with the Matrix because that's the only example of it that they've seen. They don't realize it's been around forever, and that this style of fighting is NOT original to the Matrix.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-22 09:58pm

Everybody was- KUNG-FU FIGHTING!

Those kicks were- FAST- AS- LIGHTENING!

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2003-01-22 10:04pm

Darth Wong wrote: I think a lot of people confuse the slow-mo Hong Kong action-movie fight choreography style with the Matrix because that's the only example of it that they've seen. They don't realize it's been around forever, and that this style of fighting is NOT original to the Matrix.

And the visible bullets in slo-mo (though the last time I had the argument it was fairly simple to point out that Blade did that before The Matrix did) though I did get into an argument with someone who just insisted the story was a rip-off for some reason.

Of course his idea of the special effects being a rip-off was rather silly to.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-01-22 10:20pm

Why did I like "The One"?

a) Jet Li.

b) It was made by two of the best people EVER to work on the X-Files.

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2003-01-22 10:24pm

Definatly Law. Though he does seem to have a little less endurandce then the rest of his powers would indicate. He is more than a match for Smith.

Though redoing this match when the next movie comes out is definatly in order if the trailers are any indication.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-01-23 12:06am

Agent Smith: dodges pistol shots in an open environment.
Yu-Law: dodges automatic gunfire in a barbed wire laced air duct.
No Contest.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2003-01-23 12:24am

You know I'd forgotten about that part.. I was thinking about how he dodged the bullets in the hospital, hell he didn't even start moving until the round was incoming.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » 2003-01-23 05:54am

If anything, they should have had the sparks raining down scene go even slower.

namdoolb · Post by **namdoolb** » 2003-01-23 10:40am

SylasGaunt wrote:Of course I never particularly agreed with any of the people who insisted the One was in any way a rip-off of the Matrix (a distinctly odd notion given the fact that they're stories are nothing alike).

Onto the debate Yulaw's got anything we've seen Smith done surpassed at least a bit.

Nah.. It's a ripoff of Highlander.... Done in the style of The Matrix

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-01-23 02:49pm

A rip off of Higlander done in the style of Sliders. Matrix has nothng to do with it.

namdoolb · Post by **namdoolb** » 2003-01-23 06:07pm

I disagree, matrix supplied the bullet-time.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-01-23 06:15pm

I disagree, as already mentioned in this thread Hong Kong action films have been using slo-mo fights for ages and Blade used the "bullets in slo-mo" before Matrix.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-01-23 06:49pm

THE Matrix has made it a cliche though. They are going to have to really do something special in 2&3 to prevent people from falling asleep while watching.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-01-23 07:13pm

I take it you haven't seen the trailer then?

Darth_Shinji · Post by **Darth_Shinji** » 2003-01-23 07:47pm

I've watched many marital arts action flicks. And none are done in the same style as the Matrix. Not saying the Matrix way is better, but the Matrix way uses alot more computers and the 3d veiw. And I also have always think the whole One thing as interconnected.