Posleen Vs. Tiberium Wars. (Spoilers maybe)

[TheMuffinKing]

By an act of boredom, the initial posleen invasion force from "Watch on the Rhine" gets transported to right beyond Neptune in the C&C universe.

The G.D.I. picks this up on long range sensors, and with both NOD suspiciously absent, and this threat reaching Earth in one year, decides to mobilise to their fullest extent in recent memory.

The Posleen will land in Europe as per the novel, their primary target being Germany.

A Fully mobilised G.D.I., concentrating their defenses in Europe, with a year to prepare will be in defense. They will have access to both Philadelphia station and the Ion cannon defense array.

A big variable however is that the the Earth is polluted with tiberium at the same levels as the most recent C&C game.

Can G.D.I. sucessfully hold off the invasion force?

[The Grim Squeaker]

G.D.I Circa what era?
What can the Posleen do to stop the network of working Ion Cannnons (Never mind the Uber-cannon in the Philadelphia) from blasting them into ash?

[Andrew_Fireborn]

Given that he put tiberium at C&C 3 levels, I'd say Earth's forces would be at that level too.

Never read the book, so I can't comment further.

[TheMuffinKing]

G.D.I Circa what era?
What can the Posleen do to stop the network of working Ion Cannnons (Never mind the Uber-cannon in the Philadelphia) from blasting them into ash?

GDI is doing this during the Tiberium Wars era, equivalent to the time period of the newest game.

[The Grim Squeaker]

G.D.I Circa what era?
What can the Posleen do to stop the network of working Ion Cannnons (Never mind the Uber-cannon in the Philadelphia) from blasting them into ash?

GDI is doing this during the Tiberium Wars era, equivalent to the time period of the newest game.

Then again I repeat the question: What the fuck can the Posleen do against being Ion cannon spammed into ash? (Never mind the effects of Tiberium if they're unprepared, look at what it does to GDI Heavy tanks after decades of experience with the damn stuff).

[TheMuffinKing]

G.D.I Circa what era?
What can the Posleen do to stop the network of working Ion Cannnons (Never mind the Uber-cannon in the Philadelphia) from blasting them into ash?

GDI is doing this during the Tiberium Wars era, equivalent to the time period of the newest game.

Then again I repeat the question: What the fuck can the Posleen do against being Ion cannon spammed into ash? (Never mind the effects of Tiberium if they're unprepared, look at what it does to GDI Heavy tanks after decades of experience with the damn stuff).

I would guess that they'll just have to rush and swarm the orbital defenses. It was done in the books.

[TheMuffinKing]

To add to this, why not just eliminate the ion cannons from the equation?

OP Change: No ion cannons. How now brown cow?

[Siege]

For the convenience of those unfamiliar with the book, could you sum up the basic composition of these Posleen invasion forces?

[TheMuffinKing]

For the convenience of those unfamiliar with the book, could you sum up the basic composition of these Posleen invasion forces?

Since there are few hard numbers I try my best guess: 2 battlespheres in the initial invasion, with at least 27 landers mentioned by midway through the book. Maybe 3-400 million posleen with about 15-1 god king to normal ratio. Sorry for the lack of specifics... I'll have to find my book.


Oh and apologies to Death for my earlier snarkiness!

I'll change the OP again to include only 4 operational Ion cannon. I know this is kind of disjointed.

[Tasoth]

What is it, B-Decs I think, are comprised of a massive dodecahedron or some other polyhedron with a D in at the beginning and every face has what is described as a skyscraper sized lander attached to it. When the posleen started showing up in system, they simply trounced the modified merchants-to-frigates the humans used and took out a several kilometer, if I remember that correctly, ship that was designed for war because it didn't bring escorts. Posleen also believe in simply shooting capital ship threats from orbit, which is why the rail guns hidden in the Appalachians and Rockies were so heavily fortified.

As for Posleen ground forces, your average posleen is a big, dumb animal with a gun. In the first book, they switched to 7.62 Nato because they just didn't feel the affects of 5.56 rounds fast enough. They also just keep charging until they get close enough to use their handwavium monomol blades that chop things up real good. The various weapons of the a God King's horde depends on how which said God King is, starting from shotguns that are relatively ineffective at long range and anyone with armor, going to 3mm and 5mm hypervelocity railguns, with the 5mm being able to penetrate ACS suits at close range. If they're really rich, their Posleen will have hypervelocity missile launchers and plasma guns, like the landers, that fire a burst of plasma at C or near C (don't ask how they hurl it at C in an atmosphere...). A God King floats about on a disc that mounts anything from a multilaser to plasma or hyperV missiles. As a last resort, Posleen do have a version of a tank, but they're used to defend landers. The Posleen also show up in something like five waves, with each one getting bigger as word of riches and battle spreads among their kind. The posleen also breed to the extent that feral posleen become a member of the planets fauna. And each god king brings with him his own factories, which they use to build more equipment.

The big thing is that the Posleen will direct fire at anything that's tall. While the front ranks that have the shot at a line will pour rail/shotgun fire into a line, anything that towers over it is going to get shot by the horde. They did this to low flying fighters, helos and it is one of the reasons that they decided to use Uberpower armor in the books setting.

[TheMuffinKing]

For the convenience of those unfamiliar with the book, could you sum up the basic composition of these Posleen invasion forces?

Since there are few hard numbers I try my best guess: 2 battlespheres in the initial invasion, with at least 27 landers mentioned by midway through the book. Maybe 3-400 million posleen with about 15-1 god king to normal ratio. Sorry for the lack of specifics... I'll have to find my book.


Oh and apologies to Death for my earlier snarkiness!

I'll change the OP again to include only 4 operational Ion cannon. I know this is kind of disjointed.

I just found my book! On page 119, it states: "Seven globes hit Germany, bearing nearly 30 million posleen..."

I hope this brings things more in line.

[Zor]

How would they handle tiberium?

Zor

[Siege]

Most likely badly, sometime previously to the most recent game Tiberium has 'mutated' again; there's apparently no more Tib-life and the stuff screws everything over pretty badly (if the ingame technobabble is to be believed it slowly but surely turns everything it touches into more of itself- presumably that would include Posleen.) As I recall, Germany is a Yellow Zone, so they're not as bad off as they'd be if they'd landed in Italy, but it's not a very nice place to set down if the Germany missions are to be believed.

I don't know how GDI would take the invasion though. Part of me want to see alien invaders stomped by Mammoth tanks and Zone Troopers, but GDI didn't take the Scrin invasion very well- then again, those xenos took Earth by surprise, and in this scenario they have one full year to prepare. Main problem with GDI is (I think) that we really don't have much of an idea how many soldiers they can field, how big their firepower really is, or -for example- how often Ion Cannons can fire (I take it the 6 minute ingame charge-up can be safely dismissed as game mechanics.) Potentially those Ion Cannons, tank hordes and Firehawks could put the hurt on the Posleen bad, but then again the aliens might just as well waltz right over GDI's (presumably) limited numbers... I can't tell.

[Imperial Overlord]

The Ion cannons are a non factor. The Posleen will destroy them when they arrive in system.

[Rightous Fist Of Heaven]

You mean the first actual wave that hit Earth or the couple of scout globes that came first before the actual waves? Because if you mean the first wave, there's going to be around 50 or so Battleglobes, and a doublewide fuckload of Posties. And the Ion Cannons will truly be largely a non factor, the Posleen can and will overwhelm them and should outrange them by a good margin.

[Thag]

Going by my recollections from the story, aren't zone troopers essentially ACS suits (fully enclosed, railgun armed power armor)?

I don't either side having an easy time of it under the best conditions. A lot of GDI's units are based on a few big guns, the only really effective antipersonnel unit I remember was the APC. Large numbers of Zone trooper APC's with Mammoth fire support, and hell, maybe try dusting off some Orca bombers. Nod has the weaponry to be effective (flame tanks, buggy's, shredder turrets), but not the armor. I don't see the laser-based stuff being much use against swarms of posleen. The TS subterranean stuff, on the other hand, could be a lot of fun....

[Thunderfire]

Going by my recollections from the story, aren't zone troopers essentially ACS suits (fully enclosed, railgun armed power armor)?

I don't either side having an easy time of it under the best conditions. A lot of GDI's units are based on a few big guns, the only really effective antipersonnel unit I remember was the APC.

Basic Grunts , Snipers , Commandos , lots of artillery and light vehicles are GDI infantry killers.