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"The Sword of Annihilation, much like a light saber is just a hilt until activated.

The hilt weighs 3.7lbs. and has a carbon fiber exterior, 7" long, 2" diameter cylindrical.

When activated, it produces a super-conducting magnetic field contained, antimatter heavy ion plasma that glows purple and is long axis cone shaped and covers a similar shaped area of space warp contained microscopic black holes.

The black hole density is 10 to the 12th power per inch cubed.

The temperature at the plasma core is a little over 700 million degrees Fahrenheit.

The particle density of the plasma is 10 to the 30th power per inch cubed.

The power source is a 750 year rated, strontium90 atomic battery. "

Please, for the love of god, don't ask how I came by it. I just know something about it is completely wrong in every possible way, and was hoping you could help me pinpoint the flaw, and hit the fuckstick responsible with it.
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where....

where did you find this uberwanking portable weapon of mass wankage and destruction


....and where can I get one?
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loomer wrote:The particle density of the plasma is 10 to the 30th power per inch cubed.
Google "(mass of proton)*1e30". That's right, it weighs 1.7 tonnes per cubic inch. I'm sure there's more, but that's the first thing that jumped out at me.
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DarkSilver wrote:where....

where did you find this uberwanking portable weapon of mass wankage and destruction


....and where can I get one?
Why do you want one? Small cock? It's the lamest piece of poorly-thought-out 'zomg uber lightsabre' garbage I've ever seen. Let's wonder what 3.7lbs worth of tiny, tiny black holes is going to contribute! :)
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Stark wrote:
DarkSilver wrote:where....

where did you find this uberwanking portable weapon of mass wankage and destruction


....and where can I get one?
Why do you want one? Small cock? It's the lamest piece of poorly-thought-out 'zomg uber lightsabre' garbage I've ever seen. Let's wonder what 3.7lbs worth of tiny, tiny black holes is going to contribute! :)
Thats only for the hilt. the rest of the blade is stuck in subspace where all the wankage comes from too :D

Given what Winston specified, its ludicrously heavy, will probably have all manner of unpleasant thermal/momentum and gravitational (and possibly others I can't think of) effects offhand that will have to be protected against.

I'm also sure that unless the guy wielding it has phenomal strength (and even then needs some sort of TK anchoring due to the momentum of the fucking thing) or TK the sword itself will have to provide lots of energy just to propel the damn thing. Which I am also going to hazard is going to require an insane power source (certainly nuclear level, probably way more above that givne the centuries-long timeframe.)
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Clearly a blade that is nothing bar a gateway to the hyperwarp subway would be more effective in that case - and cause terror on a 2+ as well! :)
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New shitheadery from the same source! "The mass of the black holes is neutralized by the time space mounding provided by the matter-anitmatter reaction."

See, this is why I'm ashamed of the furry fandom. It has idiots like this.
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"Time space mounding"? Jesus fucking Christ.
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So he's clearly just making stuff up now - indeed, if the mass of the black holes is 'neutralized', what the fuck are they supposed to DO? PS M/AM reactions don't provide 'time-space moulding', any more than a nuclear bomb does. Anyway, the antimatter will be consumed, so it'll run out. :)
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Assuming roughly a thumb-thick blade (like a lightsabeR) and a meter or so in length at the density Winston stated... and a roughly cylindrical blade..

I estimate it should mass at least.. ~34 tonnes.

Assuming a (possibly conservative) 10 m/s swing speed for the weapon, the momentum is going to be around 340,000 kg*m/s (that's about 1/2 to 1/3 the momentum of a WW2 battleship cannon, ,btw.)

the KE involved swinging it is a "mere" 3.4 MJ, but that's 3.4 megajoules from an insanely dense and heavy blade. And almost certainly has to come from the sword or som euber-wank psychic crap.

Ignoring for a second whether or not a plasma and black hole could exist in the same blade...

Assuming that (just to pull a number ou to fthin air) the "plasma" were air (nevermind where you get 34 tons of air from) - air has a specific heat of around 800-1000 joules per kg*K IIRC. At a temp of 700 million F (which works out to 388,889,144.3 K) - this blade will possess around 311-389 GJ of energy per kg.

Total "energy" is between around 10,574 TJ and 13,226 TJ. Or around 2-3 MT
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loomer wrote:New shitheadery from the same source! "The mass of the black holes is neutralized by the time space mounding provided by the matter-anitmatter reaction."

See, this is why I'm ashamed of the furry fandom. It has idiots like this.
Please tlel me this isn't FurryConflict.

Although if it "nullifies" the mass, what is the point of having such an abusrdly dense blade to begin with? If the mass is "nullified" the blade won't interact with anything. Or is thing just radiating improbably huge quantties of energy for no apparent reason (even though it appears to glow purple.)

Note that this won't do anythign about the massive thermal and gravitational (and probably numerous other I forget about) problems. He's just handwaving up an excuse to say "its really light."

Although that much energy in a blade is bound to have inconsiderable momentum problems of its own.
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It is and it isn't. Unless FurryConflict is merely what you call angry rage between furries.
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Let's do this a little more thoroughly:
loomer wrote:When activated, it produces a super-conducting magnetic field contained, antimatter heavy ion plasma that glows purple and is long axis cone shaped and covers a similar shaped area of space warp contained microscopic black holes.
Antimatter plasma + air.
Enjoy your annihilation products.
The black hole density is 10 to the 12th power per inch cubed.
Enjoy your Hawking radiation.
The temperature at the plasma core is a little over 700 million degrees Fahrenheit.
Enjoy your blackbody radiation.

Let me guess - ad hoc magic tech solves everything :roll:.

I have just one question - how old is this guy?
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Oh, I thought the 'black hole density' was the number of individual black holes? He mentions 'microscopic black holes', so I figured the blade involved stunningly absurd numbers of tiny, low-mass black holes. :)
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Connor MacLeod wrote:Assuming roughly a thumb-thick blade (like a lightsabeR) and a meter or so in length at the density Winston stated... and a roughly cylindrical blade..

I estimate it should mass at least.. ~34 tonnes.
Further, that was a lower limit. Since he called it a heavy ion plasma, I would expect hundreds of times more mass.
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Not sure how old he is. Popular opinion is he's a psychotic forty year old, but my own is he's a 17 year old. At best.
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Stark wrote:Oh, I thought the 'black hole density' was the number of individual black holes? He mentions 'microscopic black holes', so I figured the blade involved stunningly absurd numbers of tiny, low-mass black holes. :)
So did I. They're all going to evaporate practically instantaneously when the thing is turned on, bathing the user in pure death.
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He's just using buzzwords, like when you clip on as many guns to your lego spaceship as a kid. That's not really an indicator of age, just maturity.
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Winston Blake wrote:
Stark wrote:Oh, I thought the 'black hole density' was the number of individual black holes? He mentions 'microscopic black holes', so I figured the blade involved stunningly absurd numbers of tiny, low-mass black holes. :)
So did I. They're all going to evaporate practically instantaneously when the thing is turned on, bathing the user in pure death.
Not to mention the rads kicked out by matter/antimatter annihilation from the "heavy antimatter plasma." Can you say "hard radiation" boys and girls?
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The model that produces Hawking radiation apparently "The model doesn't take in to account dimensional recycling.". The guy is pretty much just using as many buzzwords as he can now.
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Stark wrote:
DarkSilver wrote:where....

where did you find this uberwanking portable weapon of mass wankage and destruction


....and where can I get one?
Why do you want one? Small cock? It's the lamest piece of poorly-thought-out 'zomg uber lightsabre' garbage I've ever seen. Let's wonder what 3.7lbs worth of tiny, tiny black holes is going to contribute! :)
no...it's average sized.

but it'd be something hilarious to throw at a group of PC's in a game....a uberwank sword they couldn't even pick up..
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This can only get better if it's powered by an exploding singularity. :D
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Winston Blake wrote:So did I. They're all going to evaporate practically instantaneously when the thing is turned on, bathing the user in pure death.
Ah, thus Hawking radiation. Sorry. :S

Loomer, you need to keep on this guy, just to see what he can come up with.
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loomer wrote:The model that produces Hawking radiation apparently "The model doesn't take in to account dimensional recycling.". The guy is pretty much just using as many buzzwords as he can now.
Ahahahahahaha. What a fuckstick.

Incidentally even if you could avoid the evaporation problem, tiny black holes are no good for eating stuff anyway because they're so small and have such weak gravity at any distance they only absorb particles that get really, really, really close (i.e. an atom or two on each pass through the target).
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loomer wrote:The model that produces Hawking radiation apparently "The model doesn't take in to account dimensional recycling.". The guy is pretty much just using as many buzzwords as he can now.
You know it's tempting to think up wank that could surpass this. Not just numbers wank, but creative wank. Look at how he specifies a carbon fiber hilt, an ordinary nuclear battery and the fact it glows purple.

How about: a neutron star compressed into the shape of a katana, contained by hoops of naked ring singularities. The user is protected by dimensional phase shifting. The mass is negated by wrapping the sword in superstrings, and the hilt is made from pure diamond. The blade plasma glows rainbow coloured and the whole thing is powered by an AAA battery.
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