ewoks vs the shire

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-01-23 09:42pm

equal numbers.

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2003-01-23 09:57pm

Ewoks at least have some form of tribal military, while the Hobbits don't appear to have one going by the movie (I haven't read the book, correct me if I'm wrong). I say the Ewoks massacre them.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-01-23 10:27pm

Battle Hardened stone aged peoples vs. Medieval commoners.

Hobbits, I believe, have some kind of size advantage in some of the races of Hobbit.

It's Steel vs. Stone...I'm going with the Hobbits.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-01-23 10:33pm

Majin Gojira wrote:Battle Hardened stone aged peoples vs. Medieval commoners.

Hobbits, I believe, have some kind of size advantage in some of the races of Hobbit.

It's Steel vs. Stone...I'm going with the Hobbits.

They may be slightley taller, but they are NOT stronger. We have never witnessed hobbits (to my knowedge, anyways) heft up melon-sized rocks like Ewoks did in ROTJ with such minimal effort.

And ofcoure when its stone vs. lasers, the stone wins...so: stone > lasers,
lasers > steel, rocks > steel.

Hobbits lose badly.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-23 10:35pm

If it's the Hobbits led by Merry and Pippin crica "The Scouring of the Shire" then the Ewocks get their asses kicked.

Otherwise, the Hobbits won't really fight back effectively.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-01-23 10:37pm

What Yogi said.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-24 12:09am

So we've moved from care bears v. to care bears on crack v.

The ewoks are hunter gatherers who at least understand weapons....hobbits have no real familiarity with weapons, one with such is considered extremely odd....only with Pippin and Merry to inspire them can they even oust a small invading force....I'd give this to the ewoks (remember, they have air power

)

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-01-24 12:13am

Yes, Ewoks have DaVinci.

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » 2003-01-24 12:34am

The Hobbits get hungry after their Ewok captors miss second breakfast, lunch and supper and only feed the ravenous Hobbits a single evening meal. Crazed Hobbits devoure the little furfuckers whole and raw

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-24 12:35am

Sokar wrote:The Hobbits get hungry after their Ewok captors miss second breakfast, lunch and supper and only feed the ravenous Hobbits a single evening meal. Crazed Hobbits devoure the little furfuckers whole and raw

That assumes the Ewoks dont just eat them....like they wanted to do with Han & Co.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-01-24 02:15am

Enraged blood-lusted hobbits can take on Uruk-hai.

Do the math.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-01-24 02:22am

Shadow WarChief wrote:Enraged blood-lusted hobbits can take on Uruk-hai.

Do the math.

Enaraged Ewoks take on AT-ST's.....and stormtroopers.....so theres some math still left....

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-24 02:23am

The Ewocks had superior numbers, home field advantage, prep time, and they still sustained heavy casualties.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-01-24 02:27am

Yogi wrote:The Ewocks had superior numbers, home field advantage, prep time, and they still sustained heavy casualties.

So your saying that Hobbits would have taken out an Imperial legion?

Cmon, be serious, we never see hobbits using anything other than HtH weapons.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-24 02:33am

Scouring of the Shire, they used a lot of bows.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-01-24 02:48am

Keevan_Colton wrote: Do the math.

Enaraged Ewoks take on AT-ST's
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And god their asses kicked. yes they managed to take out two, But ewok+wooden stick != a log moving at 10 m/s

Keevan_Colton wrote:.....and stormtroopers.....

You'll notice that the stormies who died because of the ewoks didn't even have their minds on the ewoks.

Whenever we saw the stormies go up against the little economy wookies, we saw the fuzballs get butchered.

Shadow WarChief · Post by **Shadow WarChief** » 2003-01-24 02:50am

I think we might be helped if the thread creator specified where this fight is taking place: Endor or the Shire or some other place. Where they are fighting is a key factor.

Subnormal · Post by **Subnormal** » 2003-01-25 07:42pm

Ewoks though primative have good engineering skills; EX: Gliders, Catapults, and tree top fortresses. The Ewoks also have a form of communication and use guerilla tactics. The Ewoks also use Bows, clubs, slings, and stones all which appear in the shire, but the Ewoks have the skills to use them, except Wicket. The Shire is a pacifistic agrarian society which has no military training, and no available weapons, besides their farming equipage. So we have Ewoks with Catapult seige equipment bombarding the hobbit holes as Gluiders bombarding from the air. You have secluded Ewok warriors in the surrounding area who launch a surprise attack with slings, bows, and rocks. The Melee troops would then advanced with clubs and spears if the ewoks could coordinate their attack the result for the hobbits would be very unsatisfactory. If the Ewoks resort to an unconventional surprise attack and are coordianted they would easily rout the whole of Hobbiton and feast on the captured.

Now if the Hobbits know of the impending foe, they would most likely flee, and not put up a fight. They would probably gather allied humans from Bree or somewhere to help defend their homes, or they would dig themselves into hobbit holes.

No matter what the result I believe Ewoks though little incompetent furballs would win, namely through weapon and engineering advantages.

NOTE: Any grammerical and spelling errors are completely the fault of my poor high school public education, and shouldn't take away from my results. Though I think I kept it to a minimum. And as always my findings are completely my opinion, other opinions are acceptable except if they are completely stupid.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-25 07:47pm

Close in the Ewoks would slaughter the hobbits, with any real range the hobbits would win easily with equal numbers. It really depends on if the battle was in the forest of Endor, or the more open terrain of the Shire.

So however has the home field advantage wins.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-01-25 08:06pm

In a forest, even without preperation, the Ewoks will own the Hobbits. They know how to work with the terrain, even if we assume they've never used the specific forest before.

The Shire is a whole different ballpark. It's relativley open ended fields means the Ewoks guerrila tactics won't work. So this would just be a Ewok vs Hobbit battle to the death. Lets examine their weapons...

MELEE
Hobbits: They generally seem to use short swords, not a lot of range on them, but they are definatley better crafted than Ewok Spears. I haven't read ROTK, so I don't know if they use some other type of melee weapon in that.

Ewoks: Use long wooden shafted spears. Although this gives them a range advantage, the steel swords of a hobbit may cut through.

RANGED
Hobbits: Use bow and arrows, although I'm very well aware of their skill with them.

Ewoks: Also uses bow and arrows, with fairly good accuracy (in the scene where the Ewok hits the scout trooper, whom did NOT die, by the way). They also use slings with rocks in them, although it has shorter range, when fully charged by an Ewok warrior, it has the potential to be much more lethal. They also have seen to drop rocks off of high ledges, but there doesn't appear to be much of those int he shire.

SIEGE
Hobbits: Hobbits have never been viewed to us eany sort of siege weapons.

Ewoks: Use catapults for hitting enemies long range. Also use logs to crush oppenents en masse (imagine rolling all those logs down a hill onto a troupe of advancing Hobbits

).

OTHER
Hobbits: Nope, got nothing.

Ewoks: Have utilized primitive air power in the form of hang gliders. With them they would be able to easily scout for/drop rocks on Hobbit forces. Although regular arrows would be unable to harm the actual hanglider itself, the rider is in much danger. Flaming arrows would have the potential to kill the glider itself though.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-01-25 09:03pm

In the prologue of the FOTR book, it is mentioned that the hobbits had a martial past a long time ago, anyone care to consult his edition for details? I don't have my copy with me...

General G · Post by **General G** » 2003-01-25 10:03pm

In the prologue of the FOTR book, it is mentioned that the hobbits had a martial past a long time ago, anyone care to consult his edition for details? I don't have my copy with me...

I think it might have been in the prequel book "The Hobbit". One of Bilbo's ancestor's Bullroarer knocked off the head of an orc lord with a hammer. [/quote]

General G · Post by **General G** » 2003-01-25 10:06pm

Should have previewed that.

In the prologue of the FOTR book, it is mentioned that the hobbits had a martial past a long time ago, anyone care to consult his edition for details? I don't have my copy with me...

I think it might have been in the prequel book "The Hobbit". One of Bilbo's ancestor's Bullroarer knocked off the head of an orc lord with a hammer.

Balrog · Post by **Balrog** » 2003-01-25 10:15pm

Can we have the Hobbits being led by Merry and Pippen?

Otherwise, it'd just wouldn't be too fair

Also, if Gandalf joins, there'll be a lot of roasting Ewoks on the fields of the Shire

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-25 10:16pm

One of Bilbo's ancestor's Bullroarer knocked off the head of an orc lord with a hammer.

It was a goblin, just to nitpick.